>> sean: big programming announcement. the president donald trump will be with us tomorrow night live. don't miss that interview. we hope you'll join us. we'll always be fair, balanced. let not your heart be troubled. laura ingraham, your coverage has been amazing. thank you. lara: back at you , hannity. amazing that it seems like there are people out there who want to take yes for an answer when we have some promising therapies that look like in the lot of people they are working and having a really good effect. not a panacea, not may be the be-all and all. and they go, no matt, you can do that until we have triple blind controlled studies. >> sean: we all want that! i don't know if you heard the beginning of the show, this letter from dr. wallace out -- >> laura: yeah, i saw it. it's fabulous.

>> sean: you have an option. you can listen to dr. mika brzezinski, dr. humpty dumpty, dr. wolf blitzer. >> laura: well... >> sean: they are lying, saying they are dangerous. the guy who is the preeminent doctor on this one drug says nil, his word, nila. >> laura: thank you for bringing that to light because he swiped away all the fearmongering. see you tomorrow night, i'll be watching you and trump. this is "the ingraham angle," another busy time from washington tonight. maybe i'll share some of them with you, the lock down lock down, shut down, whatever you call it will never end. i know it feels that way. but it will. and president trump, he is already looking for ways to get americans back to work. hud secretary ben carson is going to help weigh out the president's plan to get all done. remember when joe biden, he was talking about the travel ban all

is all xenophobic, he's conveniently changed his mind. senator ted cruz called out that hypocrisy. plus my medicine cabinet brings us the latest news on, you bet, hydroxychloroquine. and we'll hear from a democratic lawmaker who credits that very drug and the president with saving her life. she'll be here in just a few minutes. and easter sunday around the corner, millions wondering, how am i supposed to worship? raymond arroyo joins us letter with some creative solutions. this is america in shutdown, day 21. tonight, as christians begin holy week and the jews begin to celebrate passover, we are acutely aware of the devastation coronavirus has wrought, more than 10,000 americans would've lost their lives and countless more have had their lives appended. businesses frozen, parents frustrated, children are just

confused, and workers unemployed. there are some and we needed these hopeful signs emerge in. new york has suffered greatly with its more than 4,70 4,700 cd deaths, the daily numbers are stabilizing and there are other positive signs. >> total number of hospitalizations are down. the icu admissions are down. and the daily intubation ands are down. those are all good signs. and again it would suggest a possible flattening of the cur curve. >> laura: earlier than some people thought much more perhaps. we'll be watching. the west coast as far ahead of new york in the good news category. things are playing up, some states are doing such a good job at budgeting and reallocating their own resources that they are able to share some of their medical equipment. governor jay inslee a democrat

said washington state will be returning more than 400 ventilators it received from the strategic national stockpile, so they will be transferred to other states. oregon's family kate brown said to her estate can achieve 140 ventilators with new york. >> you look at most places, you can call it the bumper, you can call it they held him he can call it the mountain, call it whatever you want to do. it's very flat. they have a couple of tough ones. new jersey has been very tough, new york has been very tough. look at so many of these states, how well they are doing. >> that's good to hear. like you, i'm wondering how do we get our country back? >> we'll be truly get back to normal before there's an actual vaccine available to everybody? >> if back to normal is acting like there was never was never a coronavirus problem, i don't think that's going to happen. we don't have the insulation,

protecting the population. we go back to the point to function as a society. if you want to get to paris coronavirus, that might not ever happen. >> laura: the president didn't seem like he was completely thrilled with that answer. >> i think we can get back more to normal than an economic standpoint. actually, be better. more than back to normal. i agree that we would love to see a vaccine. but immediately i would love to see a therapeutic. i think we are getting very close. >> laura: speaking of therapeutic, some in the media and medical establishment as i mentioned to sean continue this bizarre assault on the decades old drug hydroxychloroquine that's being used by doctors worldwide. and i mean worldwide to treat covid patients, especially seeing promises in early interventions. to get a sense of how political the criticism has become, check

this out. >> we are focusing so much on hydroxychloroquine we are overlooking on the important social issues that are not being mentioned. not talking about the spikes in the mystic violence that's being seen by people who are being forced to stay inside for it not talking about the impact on indigenous an and a document in communities all throughout the u.s. we are not talking about the impact of coronavirus on people of color. >> laura: not to say those are not all important issues, they are, but you can talk about all of those things. can we not? what he didn't say is that the hydroxy plus azithromycin being used by physicians at his own hospital. i know because i've spoken to the doctors. i will say what i say almost every day. if at all possible, short of vaccine, we need a cheap, scalable therapeutic. but remember, the drug companies, they don't make the real money off of all generic drugs. no, no. so far we have a controlled study in china i'll be at on the

small side, we have a controlled study by one of europe's top epidemiologists, and we have observational data from around the globe that shows that hydroxy and as you and drop a viralload and send te hospital, they've got the viral load, they will not shed that virus is much as they would without it. andrew cuomo is even seeing the promise. >> we've allowed usage of the hydroxychloroquine with the azithromycin pack at their discretion. the federal government is going to increase the supply to new york pharmacies. there has been anecdotal evidence that it is promising. that's why we are going ahead. doctors have to prescribe it. anecdotally it's been positive. >> laura: another hot spot is

acknowledging the benefits as well. >> these drugs do not represent a silver bullet or a magic wand. however. but many medical doctors have decided to prescribe these drugs to relieve symptoms of the virus in some patients. positive results used by these drugs can potentially allow our ventilated needs to decrease. >> laura: that's the l.a. attorney general -- louisiana attorney general. nothing short of a vaccine is a magic wand, but can relieve pressure in the icus, to revert a total collapse of our health care system which was the whole point of flattening the curve in the first place. saving patients and saving the hospital. an interesting new poll by just the new polling and scott rasmussen. the element what worries americans about the crisis. 30% of americans say the most recent impact has been the loss of income.

23% shows the isolation and boredom. only 4% of americans cited their health as their top concern. thinking about that, i think people are just pragmatic. they are risks to walking out of the door every day, common sense, they know that we must protect the vulnerable including health care workers, first responders, they get all of that. yet they also know that this situation of being locked in, shut in, is just not sustainable. they know that every day we are in shutdown is another day of self-inflicted devastating wounds to american families and to our country as a whole. >> if we want to finish this war, we've got to get back to work. we don't want to be doing this for months and months and months. we are going to open our country again. this country wasn't meant for this, but we have to open our country again. >> laura: we need an american resurrection sooner rather than

later. and those are my thoughts at the end of day 21. america in shutdown. and my next guest is a doctor in l.a. who's been seeing positive results treating his covid patients with hydroxychloroquine and zinc, dr. anthony cardillo is the ceo and health director at are you surprised at how politically charged the prescribing of this drug has become? >> yes, certainly. i think that's because we do have a segment of the population that really rely on this medication daily for other medical problems and we really have to protect those people. additionally, we are seeing some hospitalized patients have been getting hydroxychloroquine alone who really aren't progressing the way would like, so it's not this wonder drug that securing everybody. we saw some limitations with it. yes, it's interesting to watch how it's unfolding right now but i think we as doctors have to see to that and really be

focused on the medical care of our patients and giving them the best possible treatment that we have and treating the correct people with that treatment. >> how many of your patients are you currently treating with the hydroxy or the hydroxy and azithromycin? we have 22 people total in our system covid-19. five of those were sick enough to warrant further treatment or they were sick enough to go to the hospital but they were on that path of getting really sick. myself and my colleagues in the clinic system give them the hydroxychloroquine, but my research over the last month or so following this closely, there was a lot of literature or a couple of articles from years ago looking at hydroxychloroquine and some of its effects. one of the effects, it opens up a channel in the cellular membrane. we looked at other studies looking at zinc and these rna viruses like we had with covid-19, and we know that high

levels of zinc inside of the cells will stop that reversed scripting process. you have to think of the hydroxychloroquine as an adjunct, opening up the door, so to speak, the zinc goes in there and actually inhibiting the cellular replication. that's what we looked at looking at the research separately, separate research from 2-30 years ago. we started to start giving that crop down the cocktail, the speaker need to come of the zinc, and of course the azithromycin to attack a possible superinfection with bacteria, not the virus but we know a lot of these with a virus, they are getting sick with bacterial infections. >> laura: we enjoy you wanting us with your perspective on this. we want cheap, scalable results for people. no one ever said anything as a magic wand. but we know that the global study last week that was released, it is the go to drug for most doctors who responded, the highest response rate.

i get 70% of spanish doctors are not prescribing it for their patients. doctor, thank you so much. while many on the left are using the carina virus outbreak to attack president trump, one democratic state lawmaker is crediting him saving her life, michigan state karen whitsett said her symptoms went away in a couple of hours taking hydroxychloroquine, a drug she knew about because of the president's daily briefing. it's great to see you tonight. many in the media saying, there's no evidence that this drug which has been around for 60 plus years, no evidence that it works against covid, what your message for them tonight? >> good evening and thank you for having me on this evening, i really appreciate this. i really want to say that, you know, you have to give us an opportunity. and for me, it saved my life. i can only go by what it is i have gone through and what my story is, and i can't speak for

anyone else. so that's not what i'm trying to do here. i'm only speaking for myself. >> laura: what happened with your diagnosis. >> with my diagnosis? it was a very long process. let me just start by saying it was a very long process. i have been home in quarantines since the 12th of march. that was the last time i actually went to session. and from that point on, just i did feeling downhill all the way. it took the longest for me to actually get an appointment, get in with my doctor, which was the 18th of march, and getting in with my doctor, and actually getting the covid test. from the nine i am down next time i actually had an appointment and getting the tes, may be a little bit of the pneumonia, that's what the diagnosis was. from there on, antibiotics,

amoxicillin -- >> laura: i'm sorry, we have a little bit of a delay which is a really frustrating part of this shutdown because we have a delay. again, when did you start getting the hydroxy and what happened after that? >> i did not receive it until the day i actually got tested for covid-19 and that was marc march 31st. i just plummeted that day. i went from 0 to 100 in time and it went from the headaches to being extremely severe to fluid getting in my lungs to sweat breaking out, the cough. my breathing being labored. it all happen in a matter of hours and i really didn't have any time between my husband and myself jason to make a decision on whether do i go to the hospital, which i didn't want to do, and it has nothing to do with the care i thought i would receive their or the first responders or the nurses that are there, had nothing to

do with them, it's the fact that the hospitals are full near my area. i essentially believe that once i got into something like that, i may not actually come out. and that was my biggest fear. i knew that this medication would possibly save me. >> laura: representative, you didn't know about it until you heard it in the president's briefing? >> i knew about it previously because i do have chronic lyme disease. it was not something that unless the president had mentioned it, it would be acceptable. if the president had not talked about this, it would not be something that's accessible for anyone to be able to get right now. it would not even be possible. and i mean that honestly. because i didn't have a difficult time even that day of obtaining the medication because of an order that was put down in my state. >> laura: so your state was one of the states that said,

next the prescriptions of hydroxychloroquine. we saw that with a number of states and your state was also one of them. >> yes. and it was on that day. you can imagine how terrified i was that, you know, i had to really beg and plead and go through a whole lot to try and get the medication. my husband was able to pick that prescription up that night and i was better within a couple of hours. for anyone who thinks that, i just want anyone to know who things it was a very short and easy process and that, you know, i went to the doctor and got diagnosed and i got my test, i got the medication, over and done with, i'm under quarantine -- no, it was a very long process. we've been in the house since march 12th. >> representative whitsett, i'm so glad you're on tonight. people call these stories anecdotal. data is anecdotal. it's all a bunch of anecdotes.

>> yes, it is. >> laura: at some point we make decisions. thank you so much for joining us. you looked great! you look great. i'm so glad. things turned around for you take care. come back soon. >> thank you. stay healthy. >> laura: we will. coming up, president trump is already thinking about the safe way of opening up the economy. housesit secretary ben carson will come up. another member of my medicine cabinet, don't go away.

>> laura: despite the mounting evidence that hydroxychloroquine is working for covid-19 patients, dr. anthony fauci remain skeptical. >> there have been cases that show there may be in effect and there are others to show that there is no effect. i think in terms of science, i

don't think we can definitively say so. >> laura: cannot definitively say. dr. stephen smith, director of the smith center of infectious diseases and urban health joined me now. dr. smith, from your medicine cabinet member. you told us night after night the promising results, to say the least, that you and doctors all over the country are seeing with hydroxychloroquine mixed with azithromycin. what is fauci saying here, really? >> what he saying, laura that is we do not have controlled randomized trials, that's true, but we have plenty of diseases including the disease that dr. wolf and dr. fauci got famous for, they developed a treatment for it in the ' 70s and '80s and save lives. if memory serves in the annals of 1973, they didn't use -- he was not rabbit randomized.

it was not controlled. i'm not blaming them. i believe they did great work in the treatment did work. but this is the data we have. and we build up on experience. the experience that we have had treating patients with a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin is that the data accumulated, and if you get to it, the more you are on it, the better your chances of being intubated or on a ventilator are. those are observational data but very powerful data. the same with tetanus vaccine. we do not have randomized controlled data using a tetanus vaccine but we use it. there are many things in medicine and infectious diseases where we do not have randomized controls, clinical trials. i'm not against having randomized controlled clinical trials but is very, very tough to do given the data that's out there on patients that are

already admitted to the hospital and already very sick. the french have the biologics studies first, march 17th may be? they showed that they used the two drugs together, the patient stopped shedding virus. american researchers, i'm a private practice i.d. dock. if american researchers are nervous about that, they can come up to new jersey and have a study done in 80 days. i don't understand the handling. i understand the hesitation. if we are worried about getting studies done, do them. we know that if you clear the virus, you better. our observational data, again, if you are on this combination and you reach the halfway point of the therapy or more, you have a very low chance of going to

the icu, of being put on a ventilator. that's a tough act to argue. >> laura: dr. smith, so the whole point of this concern, the concern about not collapsing the health care system was geared toward keeping people out of the icu and off the vents. in your experience with the 80 or so patients you've treated, you are treating for covid is that you have a lower chance of being put on event if you are on the hydroxy, correct? >> correct. and most of our intubation ands, those put on a ventilator occur within the first few days of hospitalization and well before they get close to the end of therapy with hydroxychloroquine. that's very powerful data. if hydroxychloroquine had no effect, we would expect to see the statistics. true statistics.

people can look at my data and use others. we should see late intubations, the p value on those stats from myself are very, very low. i welcome anybody to analyze this data, they are free to the public. and they are very powerful. >> dr. smith, tomorrow night we are going to talk more about the new percentages that are coming through about african-americans being disproportionately affected by this horrific virus and what that might be about. i don't have time to do it -- you are going to tell us that tomorrow night because of the very important part of this story as well. dr. smith, thank you so much. great to see you again. stay safe. >> thank you. >> laura: while the media upsets over the supposedly infighting in the coronavirus

task force the president is looking towards a future. the thing we all want to get back to it which is normal life? we want to get back to work. >> you tweeted earlier today that you like the idea of a second coronavirus task force -- so i'm wondering if you are planning to go forward -- >> getting a group of people, we have to open our country. you know, i had an expression, they cure can't be worse than the problem itself, right? i still stand by saying that. i continue to say it. the cure cannot be worse than the problem itself. we've got to get our country open. >> laura: right now for a lot of people, the cure's trailer feels like it's a killing the economy and demoralizing millions of americans but we've got to get the economy going again as soon as possible. joining me is dr. ben carson. dr. carson, it's great to see you. has there been any movement to your knowledge on this

composition, putting together the second task force? >> actually, in the task force now, there are a number of people like larry kudlow and others, the secretary of treasury as they are, and we do have those discussions, but it's been heavily weighted towards the medical side. i think it's a very wise thing for the present and talked about all the time and he's criticized were talking about the fact that we need to preserve the underpinnings of our economic success. and he recognizes fully that all we have to do is bridge the gap. the phone the mentals of our economy are very strong. we just have to bridge this gap and we'll be able to get back to getting that strong, economy and we know this too shall pass. one of the reasons he's been making it pass faster by being open minded and looking at some of these possible therapies that

can be used is because he recognizes that the longer we extend this period, the he's looking at all of these aspects, and the people who criticize him, they are going to criticize him the matter what he does. he kind of put that aside. i always find it kind of funny, they criticized the matter what he does, they don't realize that it kind of invigorates him. if they really want him to go away, they stop criticizing him, but they never going to do that. so it works just fine. >> laura: dr. carson, a lot of folks when they watch the news on a daily basis homeschooling their kids, try to figure out how to make their mortgage payment on top of it, a lot of people are feeling hopeless. this is holy week. this is the week for christians, passover is on wednesday. the beginning of that, a holy celebration for the jewish

people. what do you say about that, the sense of when is this going to be over, we need a date certain, we can't keep doing this. certainly not passed april 30th. >> i would say to them, look at what's been done. already, we put a moratorium on foreclosures and evictions on areas that we can control, the president has authorized that for a 60 da-day period. it'll be extended. i saw some negative article saying, when the 60 days is over, they have to pay all of that money back -- that's not true. yes, we have something called partial claims with fha which means those payments that they miss will be tacked onto the end of their regular forward mortgage. interest-free. so they can pay it, you know, years later. and we are taking all these things into consideration, recognizing as i said before, this is going to pass and it

looks like it's moving much faster than anybody thought. that's kudos to the american people. you know, they have grasped the significance of this. they are self isolating the way that they are supposed to be doing. i find it very refreshing. it's just like the spirit that we saw back in world war ii where people are bonding together and recognizing that this is not a time for a lot of political argument. >> laura: some people are -- i think some people are not doing the politics. we've seen a lot of politics as well. we think the bad models as well, to be perfectly honest, the models you are at, they go from 2.4 million deaths too, wait, maybe it'll be 80,000 deaths. none of it good, we don't want any deaths. but that's a big -- i'm not a math genius, but that's a big factor, and congressmen. we are all covering for the models, getting the data. if you use a model of 2.4 million people and you shut down the american economy, at what point do we say maybe we

need new modelers, okay? that's like a nightmare for most small business owners. mika brzezinski, i know you are good friends with mika over at msnbc, she actually had a theory about why the president might be pushing one of the cheapest generic drugs currently in production on the planet. watch. >> dr. fauci was not allowed to talk about what he feels is important to say about this drug that the president keeps pushing. a lot of people would say follow the money, there's got to be some sort of financial tie to someone somewhere that has the president pushing this repeatedly. >> okay. dr. carson, i just had a belly laugh. any and to the p towards hydroxychloroquine, it's because it is so cheap and so scalable, hospitals in belgium are making it in their hospitals because

they needed so badly and it works so well for them. >> a lot of people subscribe to everybody else, what they would do, would be their motivation, they can't really see anything else. the fact of the matter is this is very promising and it's being used in number of other countries, so it's very unlikely that this is a fluke. i agree we need to do the science, we need to do the double-blind studies, but we can be doing that simultaneously while we are utilizing this. and i always solve these problems by asking four questions but what's the best thing that can happen if i do this, with the worst thing that can happen if i do this, what's the best thing that can happen if i don't do this, what's the worst thing that can happen if i don't do this. apply it to hydroxychloroquine and i think you'll come out on the right side. >> laura: absolutely. dr. carson, happy easter. it's an unusual easter, but happy easter and i hope you come back soon.

up ahead, are you religious liberties, speaking of easter, in danger because of this quarantine. what can you do about it? raymond arroyo and dr. jerry murray lays out some graded solutions next.

>> live from america's news headquarters, i am jackie ibanez in new york. president trump disputing the conclusions of a federal survey that finds american hospitals are facing severe shortages of coronavirus test supplies. with cases rocketing toward their expected peak, the health and human services inspector general's office reports a shortage of tests and long waits for results throughout the route of mounting problems for hospitals. the office is nonpartisan but the president questioning whether it's conclusions are skewed by politics. meanwhile, people in wisconsin must decide to vote in tuesday's provincial primary election, or

heed the warnings and observe social distancing. democratic governor tony evers issued an effective order postponing the election for two months, but the wisconsin supreme court sided with the public in saying he didn't have the authority to do so. i am jackie ibanez, and now back to "the ingraham angle." >> laura: there is some good news from louisiana, another covid hot spot not hearing nationally, and we go to contribute a raymond arroyo who joins us from new orleans. >> luis and not john bel edwards announced the state secured 75,000 hydroxychloroquine tablets and 8,000 cpac z packs, that can the new orleans pilot -the governor says state wide, they are beginning to see a flattening of the curve in the

to field hospitals that appear by the government at the convention center and the downtown hotel only have 23 patients. things are moving in the right direction here in new orleans. >> laura: it's good to see that tonight. and, raymond, this is, of course, holy week, and it's a sacred time for christians and celebrating passover. the president said this about religious services the other d day. >> think of next sunday, easter for churches. maybe we can talk about it. maybe we can allow them with great separation outside on eastern sunday. it's something we should talk about. >> laura: how to make that actually happen and right now, our religious liberties and our rights to practice our faith strengthened b by the shutdown orders for joining us now to discuss is father jerry murray, a priest in new york and a canon lawyer. joins us. father murray, many governors are saying religious services

need to be canceled for public safety. do those orders go too far given that they don't even allow for people outside 6 feet apart to have celebrations? >> i think those orders are reasonable, lara, because it's very hard to control people do at religious ceremonies. particularly inside. if you want outside, the only way i see that happening is if you give people in their cars where they can get out of the car and they are combined to that space and they wouldn't be. the religious liberty thing is very important because the government does not tell people how to worship god. but when the government is concerned and the church is concerned about the health of our brethren, we have to take that extra step and say we will suspend temporarily public religious ceremonies. they should have mass on tv, they should honor god in many

ways paid but it is reasonable and that's what we are doing here in new york and i understand what are doing. >> laura: i know the bishops put down their orders and priest cannot violate moral orders. i get that. refusing to close their churches, one in louisiana, another in california. they feel this way. >> we do believe that this right is protected by the first amendment and should be considered essential. >> this is extremely government overreach. we feel that we have a mandate from god from his word that tells us do not forsake the assembling of your staff together. >> laura: and raymond, given the infection rates, should these churches be meeting? >> they can, they have a right to you, but perhaps they shouldn't meet in this way now. they are getting hundreds of people in one building for these

services. but religious services, laura, should be classified as essential. that something that's beyond reproach. but the public expression of faith is what we are talking about here, not just in the four walls of the church but outside. how can you do that safely? pastors and priests around the country have been finding safe ways to bring god of their people, particularly now during holy week. outdoor at palm sunday services where people remained in their cars, some pastors rode through cities like mine in louisiana here. they bless the palms of the people they actually brought out of their backyards and front yards as they went up the street. other bishops and priests, laura, our processing through the streets, praying just with a small group of people some of the acolytes, and they carried the blessed sacrament, the consecrated host that catholics believe is the blood and body of jesus. they raise this in texas, paris. i thought when i saw this, and you see it exploding online, people are inspired by this. they need that public witness and it'd be great to see that in

the major cities that are under assault now by covid. >> laura: yeah. i think, father murray, a lot of people, especially the working class people of our country, the people who pay the bills, who don't get a lot of accolades, people a lot of us came from, this is like the time where they need a public affirmation of their faith. it's all well and good to say a stay home, i heard some priest on tv, oh, it's the domestic church -- i get that, but this is holy week! and just to say that because the bishops say -- i don't know. i'm going to say going out blessing the palms, public blessings of people far apart, maybe we don't have mass until anthony fauci says it's okay after christmas or something. will the bishops be okay with that? i don't know. i don't want to get in trouble. >> i will say this, 60 priest

died in italy and one bishop and that's because they had the coronavirus without knowing it. they put out that disease into their congregation and so many people have died in italy. we don't want to repeat that here. you have to get ahead of the curve. you can just keep things as they were. it's regretful, but whatever you do the least of my brethren, you do to me. if you sacrifice going to mass to not get sick, that's a form of praising god. >> laura: couldn't we -- raymond, go ahead. raymond and i are going after the priest here! >> in 1630 in florence when they had the plague, the pope allowed masses to sit on the street corners so people could look in from afar. clearly we can come up with some creative solution in rural settings, suburban settings. you couldn't do it in new york, but you can present the eucharist, the cardinal could bless the city from his rooftop.

the public witness of that would be very valor full at time. >> laura: people need sign of hope month and they -- we need a john paul moment sign of hope, be not afraid. gentlemen, great to see you tonight. in moments, joe biden says what he even know how to log onto? senator ted cruz ways and next.

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>> we are going to have to do a convention. maybe you have to do a virtual convention. maybe we should be thinking about the right down like that right now, the idea of holding a convention is necessary but we may not be able to put ten, 20, 30,000 people in one place. i think you just got to follow the science. >> laura: ladies and gentlemen, meet joe biden the science guy. just days ago, the science was telling biden that the democratic convention still months away may need to be canceled. joining me now is texas senator ted cruz. senator, you felt this coming, did you not, that this was going to be a keep this going through the fall so we don't have to have conventions, probably not even a campaign, no debate. and maybe not even traditional voting. it all has to be done by mail. >> look, i think biden is

terrified of the boerne brothers. he doesn't want to go to a democratic convention because he's scared of the activists because he knows they don't want him. have you ever seen a prisms of nominee hide from the american people like joe biden is? it's unprecedented. >> laura: i've never seen something like people concluding many months out that things need to be canceled or things need to be virtual, which means they certainly aren't as meaningful to folks. why did they feel like they need to do that now, but you get the sense that the democrats feel, some of the fringe feels this is the only way to ensure that they have a chance against trump, to keep this thing going all the way to the fall. >> i think they are scared of whatever gaffes, what biden might say. i think they also, you see the media come up much of the

mainstream media trying to root for disaster. they are rooting for this pandemic to be worse and worse, and you saw, you know, "the washington post" self-proclaimed fact-checker was cheering about a line from the state of the union where the president said we have the lowest unemployment in 50 years in "the washington post" was saying, gosh, that didn't stand up well to the test of time. no, you moron, we had the lowest appian american and hispanic unemployment ever recorded until an epidemic originating from wuhan china, ended up causing absolute chaos and catastrophe. the media -- we should be coming together to root for america, to root for defeating this pandemic and to root for jobs coming back and i think too many partisan democrats want to just use this catastrophe to attack trump

rather than come together and fight for our country. >> laura: senator, here's what biden said yesterday about banning travel over the virus. >> 45 nations had already moved to keep, to block china's personnel to be able to come into the united states before the president moved. it's about pace, it's about the urgency. i don't think there's been enough of it. >> laura: that's a totally different tune that he was singing back in january. watch. >> this is no time for donald trump's record of hysteria, xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, and fearmongering, to lead the way instead of science. >> laura: why was that bad science in january, senator cruz, but good science today? >> look, it's just political opportunism. i spoke with president trump on

february 2nd, so a couple of days after he put in place the travel ban to china, the president asked me at the time, what did you think, was at the right thing to do? he was getting blasted by joe biden being called at hysterical xenophobia. "the new york times" running editorials from op-ed columnist blasting him for putting the china band in place. i told him back then, mr. president, it's exactly the right thing. it'll have real negative economic consequences, but this coronavirus is too dangerous and all of us need to do what we can to protect people's live in safety. the cdc, the cdc said the president's decision to halt air travel in and out of china and quarantine any americans coming back from china substantially slowed at the growth of this virus in the united states, and it reduce the number of infections and save lives in america. and yet, right now biden and pelosi and the press are all trying to rewrite history to pretend they supported what they

criticized in "the post" at the time. >> laura: senator cruz, pelosi saying that the next bill will be a trillion dollars. you are a fiscal hawk, and i think there are a lot of fiscal hawks that say they are but aren't really, but you say you are. there's a lot about the green new deal, green infrastructure. we've got to get back to work, senator! if we don't get back to work, who is going to pay the tab here? >> there is no doubt that we have to get back to work. we've got two crises that are simultaneous. we've got a global pandemic, a health crisis, and an economic. >> laura: i shouldn't have in question. we have the last bite coming up next. ..

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who are you with? >> hong kong. >> is that china? is it owned by the state? >> it is a private owned company. daymac turns out the president was right. the phoenix media holding is owned in large part by the chinese communist party, former chinese propaganda military officer as well. that all the time we have tonight. shannon bream, take it from here. daymac thank you very much. the toughest week yet in the coronavirus pandemic, the president says we may be turning the corner already.