most of it is word-of-mouth. >> dana: all right. thank you for all you do and thank you for joining us. i'm dana perino. don't forget, story time is at 3:30 p.m. eastern today. i will see you there, hager is bill hemmer. >> bill: thank you. good afternoon everyone, the heat is getting hotter surrounding beijing and the united nations. the world health organization firing back after president trump burton to cut funding after its reaction during the global pandemic. >> please don't politicize this virus. if you don't want many more body bags then you will refrain from politicizing it. no need to use covid to score political points. >> bill: so the president saying yesterday the organization has been too cozy with china and to slow to sound

the alarm on covid-19. beijing claims it's been open and transparent about the virus. china has reported around 82,000 cases and fewer than 4,000 deaths. compare that to the u.s. cases have soared past 400,000, deaths have now topped 13,000. i want to bring in our team. gordon shane, susan li who has lived and worked in hong kong. a good afternoon to both of you. gordon, let's begin. you don't think the criticism yesterday went far enough, why not? >> the world health organization helped spread this disease around china. on january 14th that sent out a tweet saying that based on the information i got from china they saw no evidence of human to human transmissions of covid-19. well the world health organization should have known that there were in fact such human to human transmissions. the chinese government probably knew the second week of december, certainly the third week of december.

so what beijing has been doing is, it has been taking people's lives. the other thing, they encouraged countries not to impose travel ban's on china. remember this disease spread outside of china's border because of travelers from china. so those two things with this disease is much worse than it otherwise might have been. >> bill: here's a statement from the world health organization on generate tenth. the world health organization advises against the application of any travel or trade restrictions in china based on the current information available on the event. and here's the tweet four days later. preliminary investigation conducted by chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human to human transmission of the novel coronavirus. is it possible they just did not know at that point? could that be an explanation early on? >> if we are talking about, let's say, the third week in

december, yes. w.h.o. would have had a reason not to know. i think w.h.o. working with china knew exactly what was going on because what was occurring inside of that country could not be explained other than human to human transmissions. now beijing was very secretive and tried to deceive the world. it enlisted w.h.o. in that effort and because of that countries did not take precautions they ordinarily would have adopted. we heard that from the coronavirus task force last week from dr. birx. >> bill: the track record is not solid. six years ago and ebola come at the world health organization screwed that up. and they were roundly criticized from all over the world for reacting too slowly in western africa. >> and we seen the same thing this time. the w.h.o. has a really bad track record nrcc has a much better one. unfortunately, the top level of w.h.o. has been propagating

beijing's lives. so you heard they had apsley no reason to believe that china's numbers were not 100% accurate, when we can see that that was clearly not the case. >> bill: but even this time the cdc is screwed up that initial test in february which was a problem. >> i think the cdc did not think this was as big of an event and they did that because of china's low china's low statistics. dr. birx mentioned this, she said it looked like stars of 2002 or 2003, it didn't look like a global pandemic which it turned out to be and that's because of china deceiving everyone. >> bill: let me bring in susan li on this. susan, what's the state of china's economy now? so they are well into their fourth month now, what is the status? >> the status is after 76 days people are allowed to leave this industrial town of 11 million.

but you have to basically present your credentials to leave the city so you have a government sponsor that tracks your addresses and medical history and whether or not you are a contagion risk. if you speak to people in wuhan, things are not back to normal. 94% of its businesses are not open, people are not going to the movie theaters because they've been traumatized by the deaths and also the lockdowns that they've experienced in the past two months. >> bill: susan, i know you cover the financial aspect of this country quite closely but there's been any alert crossing right now, the irs says that those checks will be in the hands of millions of americans starting next week. that would be lightning speed if you are trying to get that program off the ground. >> that would be lightning speed. we are talking about the checks for every child under 16. also the fda loans. some are concerned that it's being slowly doubled out to the small businesses. keep the jobs because they

employ close to 80% of americans. so the u.s. economy is still expected to take a big hit whether or not that's prolonged i think depends on how quickly you get money in cash into the hands of business owners and americans. >> one other thing on that. the small business administration has their work cut out for them. they are trying to take massive amounts of money an an end flusg it out across the country. it hasn't been easy thus far. >> the large banks talking about the wells fargo's and the bank of america and the city's, anecdotal stories have said that they have been rejecting customers. if they don't have a large credit history, they've been turning people away. so whether or not they will be the heavy lifters, and they probably need to be since they oversee i guess the majority, the trillions of dollars in bank assets across the country, i think reparation in this economy depends on his big five names. >> bill: is so much of our economy is tied with the chinese economy. on that point, you believe a

substantial penalty and must be paid at the place on beijing on behalf of the international community. how do you see that? >> i see that because we got to deter china from doing this again. it's behavior in the coronavirus epidemic was so much worse on the behavior during the 2002-2003 sars epidemic. beijing knew that this was human to human transferable and they not only kept it secret which was bad enough they actually deliberately tried to deceive the rest of the world. as i mentioned that meant that other countries didn't take those precautions. so i don't know what was in the minds of the chinese leader xi jinping but if you wanted to cripple other societies who would have done exactly what he infected david and we and we can't forget that because of what happens not only to the united states but other countries. we need to make sure this never happens again and the only way to do that is to impose great costs on china.

>> bill: gordon jane, thank you. susan li, thank you as well. meanwhile, here in the state of new york we now have more covid-19 cases. in one state than any country in the world and that includes spain and italy as of the seller. governor cuomo saying the state has again experienced its highest number of deaths and one day, 779. here are the numbers of cases ended deaths. the virus really taking a toll on the city of new york. two members of the fire department and 15 members of the police department have died and 41 transit workers have also died. david lee miller is on the front sidewalk of new york later tod today. >> governor cuomo says news about the death rate is about, it's terrible. the 779 recent totality statewide caused by the virus is up from 731 just the day before. on a positive note, cuomo says the number of hospitalizations

are down there that will help stabilize the hospital system and my's dependence on temporary facilities. the governor said the death rate will likely get worse before it improves. >> the "lagging indicator between hospitalizations and deaths, though start to drop and the death actually increase because the people who have been in the hospital for 11 days, 14 days, 17 days pass away. that's what we are seeing. >> more people will likely died from the virus than first thought. that of the national guards specially assigned troops are removing 150 bodies per day from new york city homes. officials say it's usually 25 bodies on a daily basis that must be removed. at least 41 transit workers as you mentioned in the city have died because of the virus and some 6,000 others are off the job either with a virus were quarantined and even the chairman of the transit authority here has tested positive. the lack of healthy workers has

resulted in service cuts and delays and the cutbacks have led to overcrowding on some trains. based on preliminary studies, a disproportionate number of hispanic and black new yorkers have lost their lives to the virus and mayor bill de blasio blames economic inequality and lack of access to health care. in state and city officials are both saying that social distancing in the shutting down of schools and nonessential businesses are making an impact on combating the virus. they are urging new yorkers as they do now almost every day not to become complacent. in the words of governor andrew cuomo we are now bending the curve. let's not stop what we're doing. it's been >> bill: i thank you david lee miller. meanwhile the models are changing following the news in the past 48 hours. this is where we were on monday. this is what was projected in a number of the different models that we put together. then, we get our source there

the health metrics out of washington state. in 48 hours there's a lot of good news and hear. they were saying ten days until the projected peak which would come on the 16th of april, midweek next week with a projected 3,130 deaths in one day when you reach the apex. that was on monday. this is where we are today. i will just forward this one moment here. now they are seeing the peak comes in four days which would be easter sunday, april 12th, with a total apex of 2,212. so dr. fauci and birx, they say once we get more data we put it in the models in the model change. this model is clearly changing. the national level of 2200 deaths as well below the projections were getting 48 hours ago. so we are watching this and we will update them every day and let you know what we can get and put into the system to figure out where we are headed next. all right, this happened from

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however, the number of patients hospitalized and on ventilators in that state it's down the first time. despite the high fatality coun counts, when you look at the accumulative data coming and it shows the curve starting to peek a bit. they also point to another trend being noticed in other cities as well. more than 70% of louisiana covid-19 deaths are african-american victims. state leaders say this could possibly be related to the south louisiana having less access to better health care, leading to a high number of folks living with pre-existing conditions like diabetes and hypertension which put them more at risk of catching and dying from the virus. >> other places are coming online today talking about how disproportionate number of the deaths are for members of the african-american community. so there might be something larger than just health

disparities here in louisiana. >> the antimalaria drug height hydroxychloroquine is being used on some patients. though never tested to treat coronavirus specifically there are are some indications of the drug helped patients feel bett better. it has been prescribed to about 30 patients north of a nursing home, and the latest numbers in texas show a little more than 9300 total cases of covid-19 cases across the state. 77 people have died here.

nearly 19,000 never tested positive, or 845 have died so far. the mayor says a social distancing and starting to work on the death rate is slowing down. dr. tina chopra is treating patients. at doctor, thank you for your time. you say you have a 360-degree view of this. what does it look like now? >> thank you for having me. detroit is unique in a and hasa very fragile infrastructure. also over the last two decades we have seen a decline in the population of detroit and basically the younger and the ones with cars and the rich or moved out of detroit and who is remaining are the more vulnerable ones, the older ones

and children. and those who don't have cars, and we don't have access to health care and don't have education. and now on this population you see cobit coming onto them. at any other pandemic, it's almost like adding fuel to the fire. and with all of this going on, what we are seeing in detroit is very high mortality. and we have also seen covid-19 creeping into the nursing homes and this is a very, very vulnerable population again given the lack of resources they have, the lack of ppe in the nursing homes and to top it al all, -- >> bill: it's clear that nursing homes are a major concern all over the country come at detroit included, and

the african-american population seems to be adversely affected by this. the mayor is suggesting that things are starting to level off. do you see that from your perspective? >> from my perspective we don't. we are seeing a very high mortality rate and we are is still seeing an exponential growth in our cases. we have started more testing inside the hospitals but haven't started that much testing in the community. we have to have some testing in the community but we are are going to see more cases because the testing has gone up. we need to do more testing in these nursing homes so we can find out and break the chain of transmission. >> bill: is so important for that testing. doctor, thank you and good luck in the battle. thank you for sharing your story today. in the meantime the feds may release new guidelines on when some can go back to work here in the u.s. a live report on what they are considering at the moment.

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apply to persons in this category that have been near an infected individual but who aren't showing any symptoms. take a look. >> you shouldn't be within 6 feet of people right now but if you are in a work situation we have to be there will be a series of recommendations that if you have had a significant exposure of what significantly to do. >> those new guidelines will likely involve wearing facial protection while on the job and covering her mouth and nose and periodic temperature checks. >> bill: infected people may be more contagious than originally predicted, what do we know about that? >> there is a new study published in the cdc journal. the research was conducted at the los alamos national laboratory and what the researchers did was they crunched their early numbers out of wuhan, china, the epicenter of the outbreak, at a time when the virus was spreading before a

wild scale mitigation efforts were in place. what they found was that the cases were doubling every 2.3 2.3-3.3 days and without intervention, an infected person was likely to pass the disease on to an average of 5.7 other people. that's twice as infectious as originally believed. the good news is that these mitigation efforts staying at home and social distancing is likely to lower those figures. >> bill: i thank you. at jonathan serrie live in atlanta. one of the models now shows fewer americans may die than previously projected. but there's a catch, not every model puts the number so low. david spun it is tracking that story and he has the report. >> there are so many different models out there, it just depends on which when you look at. these models have significant discrepancies, we are talking thousands of differences.

you are talking about the one white house uses witches from the university washington. it's the i am a hp model, and it says that there will be 60,000 deaths, that's what's it it's predicting by august 4th. this is a significant drop because just last week in the early part of april they were looking at almost 93,000 deaths. that changed in just a week. we had last week as many as 200,000 people, that was a little bit over a week and a half ago. to be clear the 60,000 people, that's just a model and that's if everybody follows the strictest social distancing guidelines so that could change. other models spit out more concerning numbers. washington, d.c., city officials he is in a model called chime from penn medicine in philadelphia and those officials believe 93,000 people will be infected with the peak hitting on june 28th in washington, d.c. compare that to ih and the e.u. is by the white house and it shows the peak here in the nation's capital happening tomorrow. that's quite a discrepancy, but

as well-known experts says, models are just that, models. >> when you have models that protect what the number of deaths are going to be or the number of hospitalizations, the model is as good as the assumptions that you put into the model. the assumptions are sometimes a little bit off, tweaked a little bit, you can get numbers that are far different than what the reality is. the thing that trumps models is a real data. as we continue to accumulate real data you can go back and modify the models. >> dr. fauci says the models take the best and worst-case scenario and the reality ends up being something in the middle of that. also dr. fauci says to listen to your local leaders and when in doubt into multiple models. if you put too much stock into one come after all, it could be wrong. >> bill: have been staring at them for weeks. thank you david. farmers working to keep american

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perhaps received from joe biden. and maybe we won't know that for several months. one, joe biden is a decent man and he will work with him, and also that he will keep his delegates and continue to be on ballots all the way to milwaukee or whatever additional convention looks like. and he expects to have a say in progressive policy is that the movement is continuing on in the campaign is stopping. i think, you will see a barack obama factor in more in coming weeks. i don't know how long but there have been conversations we are told between bernie sanders, joe biden and barack obama. i bet barack obama is going to take a role in trying to get the democratic party together and progressives to sign on to

joe biden's campaign. >> bill: i think one thing that's clear after this announcement today, it's joe biden versus president trump. what does that matchup look li like? >> for joe biden, this is the earliest that the democratic primary has been wrapped up since 2004 and it enables him to come one, sharp in his message and get out as much as he can. he's trying to break through every day in interviews but this enables him to fund raise and try to get the party together out of the summer. what does this look like in the fall. we don't know, but this is a different ball game and the coronavirus environments. but it will be quite a match up if you look at the head tadpol tadpoles. >> a lot of people weren't happy went that they lined up and voted in wisconsin but they went

ahead yesterday. i don't know if the rnc or dnc are talking about it now. he largely deflects the question as to whether or not he has changed his thinking and how the election should be composed or handle next fall. this is the next chapter in the coronavirus thing that he's been talking about, how we get from where we are now to an economy that's open or partially open, and dealing with all of the logistics of the campaign ahead of november. it looks a little different, but the bottom line is that you're going to have a different campaign because of what we have just been through. i bet that you will be using a lot of ads from the outside groups supporting joe biden

surprising president trump. >> see you at 6:00 tonight? there might be a briefing and i know you are still there on standby. see you soon all. from washington to florida, long lines in south florida and many waiting for hours to get supplies from the food bank. he was the scene in miami yesterday. volunteers saying they provided fresh food to a 100 families and one of the groups involved saying they saw a 600% report. he provides more than half of the nation's fruits and vegetables. i went through a long list of your statement, and essentially you are saying they need your help. they've never been in the traditional site programs and never wanted to be in those programs.

when the economy shut down in the food service sector shut down in restaurants suddenly stopped all of their orders for fresh vegetables and fresh fruits for tree nuts, universities and school systems, when all of that shut down, we suddenly had a dramatic downturn in the supply chain. there's no way to bridge that gap for the progress that had been headed for restaurants and hotels and schools over to our grocery stores overnight. it takes time and will create an oversupply situation on the retail side. fresh vegetables in the ground they had to destroy that product and those are immense losses. >> bill: i'm looking at a number, $5 billion. what would that cover have granted? >> that's the economic harm at that number will go up as long

as our economy stays shut down. but we are hoping we can do here is much the same way we are all talking about keeping our restaurants afloat, and through the crisis by giving them some measure of support. we are hoping we can have some sort of the same federal commitment for fresh produce growers who are in the same predicament. the restaurants are shut down, the farmers have nowhere to put that product and they have already spent the money for the state to prepare the ground and irrigate the land for fertilizer. if we don't provide that aid to get them through this crisis we will lose many of the farmers in this country and we just won't be able to bridge this gap. >> bill: i just wonder where it ends. >> the grocery sector seems to be operating fairly well all across america thus far. there's a reason why it's pretty strong. >> it shows you how resilient our food supply system is. all the way through trucking and distribution in the grocery

store themselves. quite resilient, but even there, and that would make it hard for farmers to plant, know how much to plant and what products to put in the ground. it's very disruptive and will continue to see economic losses because of that in the months to come. >> bill: david, thank you for your time and good luck to you. you have a very interesting message. so many need to help us up now. new numbers, the sba reporting it reprocessed nearly 4,000 loans and disturb it in more than a hundred billion dollars. based on those figures it estimates more than 9 million jobs have been saved thus far. remember, the program just went online friday of last week so you are about five or six days into this. there's been a lot of fits and starts but they are trying to figure it out, literally in real time. in the meantime, the feds have also approved a clinical trial for a potential covid-19

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>> bill: researchers at johns hopkins university have gotten the fda's stamp of approval to test a therapy for covid-19 that would use blood

plasma from recovered patients. dr. arturo from the school of public health, thank you for your time. >> good afternoon and thank you for having me. so when people get better from coronavirus they have in their blood antibodies that can kill the virus. so they donate the plasma which is the liquid part of the blood which can be used in many ways. it can be used to treat people who are very sick and it can be used to prevent some people from getting worse. eventually it can be used to prevent people who have been exposed from ever developing the illness. so we are getting ready to test the auctions and there was a lot of encouragement and history that this may work. however we need to do the appropriate clinical trials to be sure. >> bill: how long would that take, doctor?

>> well, it all depends on how many patients we get and how many institutions can evolve. the more patients you get, the quicker you get the answer. i think that given the interest and given the need we may be able to have an answer in a couple of months. >> bill: a couple of months, maybe that puts you in the summer or towards the end of summer. i'm hearing from a lot of americans who are volunteering for this. how are you reaching out? >> it's wonderful. i think the response of people who have been cured of this is terrific. thousands of people have been volunteering at right now one of the issues is logistical. how to arrange for all the people to donate to provide plasma. and one of them is to contact the red cross, and in the new york area than your blood bank is taking donations and also to go to our website, cdc

pp.org and register and you can try -- if they can try to match you with the donation site in your zip code? >> bill: where are you? >> i met johns hopkins. >> bill: okay come up with talk to other johns hopkins doctors spread all across the country. if you were to get the antibody, how would that change the american life around this pandemic? >> well assuming it could work and i am a scientist so i don't do things without concluding clinical trials. it could save people. it could reduce mortality. it could prevent people from getting worse and having to go into the intensive care unit where there is respirator shortages. it could also prevent if it was just prophylactically, equip prevent people from being exposed or ever getting sick.

we think of it as a measure that can be used in the middle of this epidemic to stem the suffering. >> bill: to be clear, this would come well in advance of a vaccine that could be used nationally or internationally. this could be a fast-track system that could be used to help people. >> remember vaccines worked very differently. here we are talking about taking antibodies from people who have recovered who had good antibodies in their blood and using them on people who need them. >> bill: doctor, as it sort of like you extract the blood and spin it and you put the good stuff in the right body? >> you are right, that's the way it used to be done. now with transfusion medicine it's much more sophisticated and they can kind of subtle comic and separate the liquid out so that you don't have to lose your red cells.

such it's much more advanced and it's very regulated and it's the same thing. >> bill: you are giving us hope and i hear a strong note of caution in your voice. >> always. this is what i say to everyone. this has been used for over a hundred years. however we are dealing with a new virus and every time you are dealing with something new, you have to be cautious and you need to test it. the good thing is that i think it can be tested relatively quickly and that even if we know by late june we are still early in this epidemic. this epidemic will be a with for a while. >> bill: doctor, how many people are racing to find this answer today? >> so my impression is that all scientists have become covid-19

santos. i particularly for example use it primarily on of the problems and this has become an all hands effort and it's wonderful to see how the community is coming together. i believe we are going to beat this. i believe there will be a day in which we look back and we will conquer this coronavirus but it's going to come up between now and then we have to do a bit of work. >> bill: i believe you. good luck and we will be in touch. thank you from johns hopkins in baltimore. in a moment, you may have heard this earlier in the week, a tiger tested positive. is this something pet owner should be worried about? an answer on that is next. ♪ refinance when mortgage rates drop. and they just dropped to the lowest in newday's history. refinance now. there's no income verification, no appraisal, and no out of pocket costs.

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causes. if you are a pet owner, it's possible for you to spread the virus to your pet or vice versa. the expert tells us there is no evidence of either scenario happening in the u.s. a tiger at the bronx zoo tested positive. what are you learning? >> right now, there are no u.s. cases of pets getting covid-19, but pet owners are still concerned. the american veterinary association reports to us that doctors across the u.s. are getting panicked phone calls from people alarmed and wondering if they've given the virus to their dog or cat. the cdc says it does not currently have any evidence th that -- have been reports of domestic cats and dogs testing positive in hong kong in belgium. after coming into contact with people who were sick. and a new study out of china which has not been peer-reviewed

showed cats were able to transmit the virus to other ca cats. the evidence in those international cases is weak, but that you should still follow cdc guidelines to avoid contact with their animals if you do get si sick. >> even though we are reasonably sure that you cannot get it from pets, and pets can't get it from you, there is no sense playing the odds and kissing your pets on the mouth, which a lot of people do. it is just not safe to do when you are sick. >> the only pet he might be concerned about is the ferret. parrots are more susceptible to contracting human influenza. if you're sick, be extra vigilant. in the meantime, the cdc's says it is monitoring the situation. more studies are needed to understand better how this virus impacts different kinds of animals. >> bill: thank you for that. it certainly got our attention

earlier in the week. we are here every day monday through friday, 3:00 eastern. in the meantime, have you seen what's happening on wall street? and about 4 days of trading, we've got about 15%. here is neil, with that good news. >> neil: thank you very much, bill hemmer. the cases are rising come up with the hospitalizations are not rising nearly as dramatically. that seems to be the story of the day and a big reason why stocks were up. we were following the covid-19 cases that are attracting the world's attention on the same day we are learning new york, new jersey, louisiana just reported their highest daily death tolls from covid-19. what happens next and why are market soaring? they think this is as close to you get to an apex. they are encouraged by reports from owner andrew cuomo that the number ofos