documents, these transcripts were never included in the documentation the fbi provided to the foreign intelligence surveillance court. >> sean: we've got to go. but this is huge. we will have more. it's all falling apart. let not your heart be troubled. lawler, great interview last night with the attorney general. >> laura: thank you. he's so wise. because he's the attorney general and the trump administration, he's trash relentlessly. he could just shock people with complements and then trash them. >> sean: i think you and i get trashed more than him. i'm just guessing. >> laura: a tiny bit. sara carter, blows me away. i love that segment and we are going to learn a lot more. >> sean: everything we've talked about. i know we've been busy with this corona, but this is all coming back in a big way. >> laura: another reason we have to heal the country, get rid of the virus, get back to

work, and expose what was done to this administration and this president at the hands of these outrage. sean, fantastic job as always. i'm laura ingraham, this is "the ingra""the ingraham angle" " "theingram you know, the agency that screed of testing six weeks in the united states, he was on cnn tonight essentially dismissing trashing as a backhanded slap hydroxychloroquine, despite all of its success stories. unbelievable. if there was actually a government agency, real agency, he would be fired for that. but my reticent cabinet sets the record straight. and democrats want to use the pandemic to totally restructure voting in the united states. congressman matt gaetz and chris hahn are here to debate. and is biometric tracking really the answer to containing and deceiving the coronavirus, how

we can reopen our government, our country. what does it mean for our country? victor david hanson will explain it all. we are going to show you parts two, sean referenced it, my exclusive interview with attorney general bill barr. what he really thinks about trump firing that intel inspector general and about john durham's investigation. but first, this is america in shutdown, day 24. some important developments and some emails i must share with you. as new york remains the covid cauldron of america, 799 folks in new york died yesterday bringing the state's total to a staggering 7,067. that is 43% of all american fatalities. get your mind wrapped around that. the public hospitals especially remain a battleground, but the state overall continues to make some progress against the virus.

>> we had 200 net increase in hospitalizations which you can see is the lowest number we've had since this nightmare started actually. a change in icu admissions, the lowest number we've had since march 19th or so. a number of innovations are down. >> laura: that's all good news. new york city is stretched and hurting. the health care system, which were worry about, is going to bend but it's not going to break. thank goodness. it's not going to collapse. with this in mind, it's truly shocking to see how far off every model was that an informed the draconian response of a nationwide shutdown, a one-size-fits-all, the kind of shutdown with the president gave the states in flexibility which is really smart. new york covid bad predictions projectionswere totally wrong. the purple dotted line is where

we are today, 18,000 beds needed. the red line is the ihme model funded by bill gates. the greenline is columbia university's estimate, look where that was. look at the dotted line below. that's where we actually are. again, this is great news. these estimates were off by a factor of six. the high and mortality projection is even worse. that was off by a factor of 33. that's not that graph, it's a different one. new orleans is going to a very tough time, but things are even looking up there. >> we do believe we begin to see the flattening of the curve, coming down on the other side, we know cases we can fight, we will be easing back towards life

suburbs of washington, d.c., was closed to visitors. not long after that, her father 75 was confined to his room, along with all other residents. he sleeps probably 18 hours a day. i called him every day when i'm able, she says. but he doesn't always pick up. since he has parkinson's disease and now no access to physical or speech therapy, it's

increasingly difficult to understand him. what silly worries that ongoing isolation could accelerate his decline. this is heartbreaking. we have to bring the stories to light as well. i also got this text from a friend who runs a landscape design firm in south florida. he said this paycheck plan is a mess. i know a large cross-section of small business owners across the country in many different fields and with a variety of banks, no one i know has seen a dime, we are just dying out here. we cut two-thirds of our staff and put the rest on half pay. nothing is moving. by the time the fda loans are processed, we'll all be in 2021. what pelosi did today is unbelievably dispiriting. small business owners' lives matter, cannot wait until things are back to normal. i will say print what did pelosi do today. she made it clear, i know this is harsh to say it, it seems

like democrats in congress almost want as many americans out of work on election day as possible. schumer and pelosi held up a new aid package for small business because it doesn't contain all of the left-wing goodies they want. all that g.o.p. wanted to do is literally change one number, the $250 billion in the stimulus for small business would become 600 billion, at another -- with 350, it would become 600 billion. what they are saying, in other words, our agenda is more important than your survival, and survival of firms like the ones i just referenced. plus the unelected medical bureaucrats, what do they keep doing? they keep moving the goal posts for when they think the economy can reopen. trump was right a month ago when he said this. >> don't forget, the doctors, if it were up to the doctors, let's keep it shut down, let's

shutdown the entire world. let's keep it shut for a couple of years. >> laura: dr. fauci has dismissed anecdotal, cheap decades-old therapies vital weapons in the fight against covid-19. they show real promise keeping people not just out of the icu but out of the hospital altogether. on this subject, this is big news today, french president emmanuel micron made a surprise trip to marseilles today, renowned epidemiologist and all of europe. he was handed the results of a follow-up study of more than 1,061 covid patients put on a regimen of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin. the preliminary report contained some very good news. results are still being analyzed, but the healing was

achieved in 973 of the patients in ten days. for an efficacy rate, 91%. what about the critics who were citing possible serious complications of these drugs. professor found zero cardiac complications in any of his subjects. america has some clinical trials of its own going right now, but this french data confirms what our own dr. steven smith who will be on in a few moments found in his infectious disease practice as well. this is good news and thank the good lord who recognizes the importance of advancing these medical solutions as as fast and safely as possible. a stark reminder of how far we have fallen because of this virus and the shutdown. in early february, we had long lines to get into clubs and neighborhood hot spots. but in early april, americans

are now lining up for basic necessities. >> 1200 cars lined up at the stadium in san diego ove over te weekend. >> when they see the box of food coming into the cars, some of them smile and some of them cry. >> laura: as the president said, the shut down, what's it doing, what it's done to the income earning potential of people, record numbers of people at food banks, even at boston and friend of mine told me he couldn't believe what he saw. the president said the state we are in, like a suspended state of them animation, is unnatural. it cannot continue indefinitely. we have to adapt to new information, new data, when the projections are off, as they've been off, we demonstrated it almost for two weeks now, our response to the crisis has to be smartly adjusted and also safely. new reality is, new protocols, a

phased-in reopening. measures that work for new york where things are still very tough might not be necessary in nebraska. that's okay. but unless somehow money really does grow on trees, we needed reopening soon. a date certain where we can continue protecting the most vulnerable and at the same time reclaim our lives and our god-given freedom. and those are my thoughts at the end of day 24, american shutdo shutdown. my next guest is a recovered coronavirus patient who says his life was saved by the drug hydroxychloroquine, which his wife first learned about apparently right here on "the ingraham angle." billy saraceno joins me now. tell me what happened, what your wife saul, and what happened to you >> thank you for having me on

the show. on march 16th, my wife was watching your show, i was already in quarantine. i had sars-like symptoms exactly one month ago today. she saw the story on your show about the hydroxychloroquine. she took a shot of it on her phone and sent a text while i was on the other side of the house and said, here is the medication, looks like it really works, you have to tell your doctor to get this prescription for you. at the time, i was going up and down so i didn't get it right away but a few days later, i had very bad symptoms and the very bad upper respiratory symptoms, and at the time i had my doctor prescribed a medication. i was in touch with my doctor every day for he's monitoring my symptoms. my doctor at that point prescribed the medication. the day after that, i wound up going into hackensack and university center.

i had a chest x-ray, i had lateral viral pneumonia, i was admitted and at that point in time i ended up receiving the azithromycin through iv. 48 hours after that, the fever broke and i was on the mend after ten days of having this terrible virus. >> laura: that picture that she sent you was actually -- i couldn't really see it because it's small, but that was a screenshot of -- was that a screenshot of our show? it is! i thought they were joking with me when they said it was a screenshot. that's actually of our show! >> she took a picture of your show with her phone and sent it to me on my phone so that i could see it. >> laura: now i'm putting two and two together. it took me a little while. we've been shot in for a long time here, billy. your symptoms were bad you went

in, went on the hydroxy. how long were you on it for? >> i was on it for five days, a total of 15 pills. >> when you hear the cdc director tonight just basically giving it a backhand, saying we don't have the full clinical testing yet, he was just very dismissive of the drug, what are your thoughts? >> i strongly disagree. this is why i'm trying to get my story out. i firmly believe that my timing was everything. if my wife didn't see the story on your show, she didn't tell me about the story, i didn't -- she didn't believe the prescription would work. if all those things didn't go the way they planned, i would

not be here speaking with you today. >> laura: billy, i'm glad you are okay. i hope the president is watching, i hope the cdc folks are watching, and i hope people who are in distress can get tested, find out their status, and with their doctor decide what's up for them. we keep hearing story after story. this is really great news. you look great. keep in touch and stay safe out there, billy. >> laura: tell your wife i said hi. after hearing all the stories like billy or hydroxychloroquine is credited with saving a life, it's amazing that the left and the medical establishment is still in total denial about the

potential of these decades-old drugs. >> we continue today to push hydroxychloroquine in a way that is baffling to medical professionals. >> this is not a proven drug. >> the one word that proves why president trump should not be president, what is it? >> hydroxychloroquine. >> laura: joining me now is dr. stephen smith, founder of the smith center for an factitious infectious diseases and urban health. just wrote a terrific piece on "the hill," called hydroxy hysteria. i just had to start with you. were you surprised by the cdc director's snooty response to hydroxy tonight over on cnn? >> is it dr. redfield's respon

response? >> laura: yes. we have the sound bite. let me play it for you and you can react. here we go. >> would you recommend it to a patient? >> yeah. i'm not going to recommend it and i'm not going to not recommended. you and i are very similar, very similar to my friend dr. fauci. we are very comfortable in responding when we have data. >> okay. >> laura: dr. smith, go ahead. >> i met dr. redfield. he's a nice guy, he's a beltway guy. this is about beltway fight and i'm not about that. he hasn't seen anybody with covid. i've treated over 115 patients now. this drug works. i don't know how many are trump fans but i know at least two aren't. has nothing to do with politics. covid is a death thing.

it's not a republican or democrat thing. this drug helps. it's clear. i don't know why there is so much of this hullabaloo about it not working. we have data, the french have amazing data, even the small chinese study shows it works in human beings. we know this drug works against covid. that's something i'm working on, the french are working on dosing it correctly, the french use a much higher dose than a lot of doctors who do use hydroxychloroquine. the united states -- the drug builds up, so it's the total dose that matters. the dose that allows doctors who do use it in the united states, they are using it at 2400 milligrams. the french dose is 6,000 milligrams. that's over twice the dose. that's important, especially people who weigh more than 190-200 pounds. >> laura: all right. let me get into something else

that's happening here, which is one of the doctors working on a covid vaccine said this, how long that process could actually take. >> takes how long it develops a safe and effective vaccine and do all the adequate testing. i think the world record is about five years for ebola and i was talking recently, for years, three months. a year to 18 months? it would be unprecedented. >> laura: doctor, doesn't this underscore why we need to find treatments and validate treatments like the one that dr. smith is prescribing, i thousand patient study finding great success. why are those so important.

why so much people are adamantly opposed to it and frighten people about it? it's stunning. >> i agree. i think any real solution has to be cheap, effective, safe, and scalable. seems not going to be anything for going to be lucrative trying to invent these things, but 18 months, we will be lucky. my reality is that we try to make the closest we've ever come was a feline vaccine that actually cause lethal sciatic and storms. we have to stop talking about vaccines as the equivalent, we need to talk about the possibility of herd immunity, hydroxychloroquine, continue the studies, the thing i would add to steve's comments is it's also more important to start this earlier in therapy. these people going into the icu

deathly ill, not benefit that we'll have moderate to mild disease and initiate therapy earlier. i will refer to steve on that. >> laura: a lot has been said, dr. smith, about the african-american death rate in some of these hot spots especially. really, really quickly, we have little time. what else can you tell me what you are seeing with these comorbidities and how might that relate? >> we are seeing a high percentage of african-american populations, 60% of our cohort which is over 115 now is african-american. to tease that out from diabetes and poorly controlled diabetes is another story. it has to do with the ethnicity of the person or does it have to do with the diabetes and how that has not been diagnosed or how it's been managed by the patient. so that's a story that has to be teased out by epidemiologists.

almost all of the doll make them are diabetics. >> laura: will hit that next week with the medicine cabinet. thank you so much. dr. smith, stay safe. coming up democrats are trying to figure up a new argument to push a radical agenda. welcome of vote by mail or get covid and die. congressman gaetz and hahn next.

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and chris hahn, the host of the that was james carville here that was a lot of fearmongering there. is this a preview of how we are going to politicize this pandemic right up until election day? >> in the most insincere of ways because president trump had a historic turnout on election day. there may be some voices trying to scare down to press the election day vote. what i can say to those who choose to vote by mail, and low risk that their vote will be tempered with so people who want to vote by mail should. in states that expand their vote by mail, there is a belief that there will be an increased opportunity for fraud. mit, professors have done studies to show that vote by mail actually has the highest propensity of fraud when compared to in person voting or early voting. >> laura: here's what attorney general bill barr told me about changing the way we vote. watch. >> it's not the right time to be

experimenting with the way elections are conducted, through mailing and other kinds of techniques. i think by november we are going to be dealing with a different set of circumstances. but i think we can adapt our election practices at the polls to accommodate public health concerns. >> laura: chris, that sounds pretty reasonable. 6 feet distance, where masked the vote. why are people in the democrat party jumping ahead to the fall already and try to lay down new markers about voting? >> i get why republicans don't want vote by mail. their entire plan is to suppress the vote. and this is perfect for that plan, what we are doing right now. scare people to think they might die at the polls. so vote by mail, which there is no evidence anywhere of mass fraud in oregon where they've done it since the 80s and 100 million people have voted, there is only 11 cases of any documented fraud at all, and no mass fraud, but they want to say

that and hope people believe it. if you believe he should have a country and have elections, you want to make sure people can vote even in a pandemic. so we've got to come up with something and i find it rich, i find it rich, that congressman gaetz is talking about politicizing this after the stunt you pulled. >> gave me a break! i was making a point that we should be concerned -- >> i can't believe it, matt! >> we have the dirtiest airports -- a lot of members of congress -- give me a break! >> laura: guys... >> nice, matt. >> laura: nobody can hear this! stop, stop, stop! this drive people crazy. try to make an aggressive point, but try not to talk over each other. it drives me crazy and everybody else. congressman gaetz, this is the concern, i think. people are afraid now, a lot of people are afraid, afraid to go

to the deli counter. i saw two people at the deli counter yesterday in actual gas masks. the real ones with the filter on the side. it was quite something. it is a salami really that... people are scared. people are petrified going into the fall that they are not going to vote and they are just going to say, i'm going to stay home, or do we want to encourage people to still participate, you can vote by mail, why are republicans worried about that? >> we aren't. as a matter of fact, americans voted during the civil war. i suspect we'll be able to vote during coronavirus pair there is little to no risk who chooses to vote by mail. if you are a vote by mail voter and concerned about the integrity of your ballot, there is no need to be. what chris' point is there are circumstances where vote by mail states, groups go and create fictitious people or people who died long ago --

>> no evidence. >> there is never a moment where a human being shows up to vote and so votes being counted for folks who might not be legally in our country. >> none. >> laura: what's amazing through this whole process is one governor can just decide -- you know, we are going to call off in the election. we are not going to involve the state legislature. we will not call the legislative back into session so they can proclaim or pass a law about changing. one governor in wisconsin tried to completely change a vote by executive fiat, and thank god that was struck down. that's the kind of stuff that people are going to pull and, chris hahn, if a republican governor pulled that, i know you wouldn't be in favor of it. >> no, laura. like the wind, the republican governor of ohio did exactly that, and he was right to do it. he moved the election to june where it might be safer because he is trying to take care of his

constituents, like the governor of wisconsin did. but the republicans wanted as few people as possible -- -- >> laura: no, no, no. they were different scenarios. different processes. it was struck down by the court. the court enjoined the governor from issuing an executive decree to change elections. we voted during world wars, we voted during the civil war. we voted during major, major crises in america. the idea you can just by executive fiat without the legislator being involved, are you kidding me? and you call trump and autocrats? >> i'm all for there being a legislative involvement in these decisions. i agree with you partially on that. that said, the republican plan is to repress the vote. they don't want people to vote. >> he was saying people will die and show up and vote that's voter suppression --

>> buddy, you shouldn't be talking about people dying because people in your district saw you taking fun of this -- >> are you joking me? >> laura: all right. >> testament to the fact that you don't have the intellectual capacity -- >> that photo is going to be in every congressional race this year! >> laura: considering a coronavirus database, that means tracking health data. well, should we be worried about our privacy or civil liberties? we will talk about that next with victor david hanson. stay right there. m is the longest lasting aa battery in the world. [confetti cannon popping] energizer. backed by science. matched by no one.

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and ordered abortions permissible in certain circumstances. i am ashley strohmeyer. now back to "the ingraham angle." >> laura: what are your thoughts from a civil libertarian point of view about these types of what some would say tracking mechanisms that would be adopted going forward to reopen our broader economy? >> yeah, i'm very concerned about slippery slope in terms of continuing encroachments on personal liberty. >> laura: if attorney general bill barr is concerned about plans that may include tracking and monitoring the health of individual americans, you should be too. that was a little surprising. you heard the president speak so favorably about the idea yesterday. >> it doesn't sound like a bad idea actually but -- i don't know if i'd be okay, i'd have to see it. but it sounds very scientific and it sounds like it could be good based on trapping.

but it also has to do with rights and lots of different constitutional questions. >> some people are suggesting it would be like the post-9/11 patriot act that ultimately led to phis fisa abuse.>> i was ultimately . >> and acted apparently to protect us but also have been used to violate our rights. warning me is victor davis hanson. senior fellow at the hoover institute. victor, mass surveillance, whatever this is, should we be asking questions now and not later? >> i think we should. it's a bad idea. we would end up creating two cast of citizens, those who test positive and antibodies and free to do more things than the ones who don't, we don't want to do that. what we are interested in is the number, not individuals. we want to know how many people have antibodies because we've been working with an unknown

denominator, a denominator that's false, that's given all sorts of misinformation. once we do representative surveys and find out who has antibodies and what the percentage of the population is that has had the virus, that's the key, not the individuals. and we can really get an accurate idea of what the lethality rate, that'll lead to greater confidence and allow us to go back to normality. we don't want to have individuals stigmatized. i have the virus, i have immunity, i have antibodies, you don't. each person will have their own i.d. or their own information, where they were close and somewhat immune and they can deal with that as they want it we do not want the government especially in conjunction with silicon valley for what we've known about danna mining, google, et cetera, we don't want them anywhere near this with the individual names and some databank. >> laura: what's amazing, victor, the aclu, it's supposed to be this, you know, big advocacy group for our civil

rights, standing up for our rights. here's what what one of these attorneys said covid tracking. has to be those that are demanded by public health officials and experts as opposed to others in government, particularly in security or law enforcement business. medical bureaucrats can give their imprimatur to track you. that's good. law enforcement for the politicians accountable to the people, come up with something? that's bad. >> i'm very wary of people on the left in the national crises because they are supposedly the purported protectors of civil liberties. when you look at woodrow wilson and the suppression of the first amendment in world war ii or earl warren and fdr and the japanese internment, or even abraham lincoln's suspension of

habeas corpus in places he shouldn't have done it, it's not a good idea. remember, the pressure on donald trump to enact the war production act and nationalize companies, he was resisting that. that came more from his opponents on the left. i think that's a bad idea. we didn't need it in '57, we didn't need it in 2009, we didn't need it in 2017. we didn't have a national bank to track everybody who had the flu and didn't have the flu, and that we have 61,000 people died just three years ago. >> laura: victor, it seems like, you've written about this, almost out of time. we will hit this again next week, but you wrote and commented about california versus new york. and it can't be just a shut down a few days earlier in california. other stuff was going on there. clearly there is more herd immunity than we would've thought. that virus was circulating in california for a lot longer. there is also a fascinating point, we'll have to hit that

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♪ >> >> laura: now, more of my exclusive interview with attorney general bill barr. i believe you urged the federal inmate population given the coronavirus, where does that stand out given the concerns about the spread of the virus inside state prisons and obviously federal facilities? >> we aren't going to open our prisoners and let prisoners go free, generally. our mission is to protect the public and we aren't going to do anything that's contrary to that. where we find a prisoner who is vulnerable because of their age and their medical condition that

has served the substantial part of their sentence, has not been convicted for a violent crime or crime, does not pose a threat to the community, we are using every tool we can to put them in home confinement, provided that we think home confinement will not be more dangerous than staying where they are and also after a quarantine period where we can ensure they are not taking the disease into the public. >> laura: you have been criticized recently for focusing on the drug cartels during the covid virus. >> this issue of drug cartels, it doesn't feel like that's the front line concern of every american right now. >> might seem like an odd thing yesterday to talk about drug cartels. >> it's not the top of mind for the health care workers who were on the front lines of this and for so many americans. >> well, it might come to a surprise to some of these people that the federal government, the

justice department specifically has 115,000 people who are dedicated to protecting the public safety, including presenting narcotics trafficking and we are able to do more than one thing at a time and handling different kinds of cases. maybe fraud is not on the top of their mind, but we still police fraud. it's very interesting. because drugs kill 70,000 americans per year. 70,000 a year. and it's poison. and we have to make sure during this period that the cartels are not taking advantage of the united states and pumping this poison into the united states. >> laura: they are coming in via boat. >> they are relying more on votes to bring the cocaine up from south america up for further transportation into the united states.

so the justice department can do more than one thing at once. and i'm amused whenever i see bars intervened in this case, at the time of the covid crisis. business for the justice department has to continue. >> laura: john brennan came out smashing the president 'aspiring of inspector general michael atkinson. let's listen. >> mr. trump continues to show his insecurity in terms of trying to stop anybody who is going to expose the lawlessness that i think he has not only allowed to continue but also that he abets. >> i think the president did the right thing removing atkinson. from the vantage point of the department of justice, he had interpreted his statute which is a fairly narrow statute that gave him jurisdiction over wrongdoing like intelligent

people, try to turn into a commission to explore anybody in the government and immediately report it to congress without letting the executive branch look at it without any problem. he was told this in a letter from the department of justice and he has obliged to follow the interpretation of the department of justice and he ignored it. so i think the president was correct in firing him. >> laura: the second inspector general, fired since the beginning of this pandemic. the president >> i think he wants responsible watchdogs. >> laura: what can you tell us about the state of john durham's investigation, people who have been waiting for the final report of what happened, what can you tell us? >> i think a report may be and probably will be a byproduct of his activity, but his primary focus isn't to prepare a report.

looking to bring to justice people who were engaged in abuses if they can show there were criminal violations and that's what the focus is on. as you know, being a lawyer yourself, building these cases, especially the sprawling case we had between us that went on for two or three years here, it takes some time. take some time to build a case. so he's diligently pursuing it. my own view is that the evidence shows that we are not dealing with just mistakes or sloppiness, there is something far more troubling here. and we are going to get to the bottom of it. and people broke the law and we can establish that with the evidence that they will be prosecuted. >> laura: the president is very frustrated. you obviously know that. andrew mccabe he believes people like mccabe and others were able to basically flout laws, and so far with impunity.

>> i think the president has every right to be frustrated because i think what happened to him is one of the greatest travesties in american history. without any basis, they started this investigation of his campaign, and even more concerning, actually is what happened after the campaign, a whole pattern of events while he was president. so i tried to tried to sabotage the presidency. or at least had the effect of sabotaging the presidency. >> laura: wolf eyes of uses really be prevented going forward given what happened were pfizer material facts about evidence that inform the government okaying the surveillance of american citizens? >> i think it's possible to put in a regime that will make it very hard to either willfully circumvent fisa or to do so

sloppily without regard for the american rights involved. any misconduct will be discovered and discovered fairly promptly, so i do think we can put in safeguards that will enable us to go forward with this important tool. i think it's fairly sad and people who abused fisa have a lot to answer for because this was an important tool to protect the american people. they abused it, the the fbi is an institution and we have to rebuild that. >> laura: i'll say. and up next, one supermodels take a tumble. the last bite is next.

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♪ >> time for the last bite. next time someone tells you just leave it to the experts, don't worry, remember this. >> we will bring down the number of infections so we don't have 2.2 million deaths. >> the model tells you even if you mitigate fully you will get to this disturbing number of deaths, 100-200,000.

looks more like the 60,000 and 100-200,000. >> that only a differential of 36. every life matters, every life counts. they were wrong. that is all-time we have, take it from here. have a happy easter. >> you as well. we begin with a fox news alert. mark your calendars, new york's father of democratic mayor to the coronavirus task force, the month of may is shaping up as a potential target date for taking steps toward reopening america for business, we are investigating whether we can be ready with experts on testing coming to you at a drugstore near you seen as essential to ensuring the time is right and looking at the controversy over another multitrillion dollar relief package with