you've got a wonderful special coming sunday for easter sunday. >> sandra: "america together: keeping the faith," on easter sunday. we will hear from religious leaders all over the world. we will carry services from rome, and franklin graham will be speaking in central park. so, please tune in. ed, nice to see you, have a great weekend. that does it for us. the "outnumbered" starts right now. >> dagen: this fox news alert, president trump set to participate in an easter blessing from the oval office. we will bring you that as soon as we get it. this, as americans are observing holy week in isolation, as coronavirus cases and deaths climb here and abroad. right now, at least 1.6 million cases globally, over 90,000 deaths. here at home, the coronavirus is now the deadliest disease in the united states, causing more deaths per day than cancer or heart disease. meantime, the surgeon general offering words of optimism on this good friday.

>> this is going to continue to be a sad week. but there is salvation at the end. we know the things that we are doing are actually working. i want to think america. thank you, america, for taking the steps, for making this sacrifice. you are literally saving lives. >> dagen: this is "outnumbered." i'm dagen mcdowell. here today, gillian turner, fox news correspondent. katie pavlich, "town hall" editor and fox news contributor. dr. janette nesheiwat, medical director at citi md and fox news contributor. joining us today, jonathan morris, theologian and fox news contributor, as well. you, sir, are "outnumbered." good to see you all on this good friday. happy passover, happy easter to everybody. dr. janette nesheiwat, to you first. to echo with the surgeon general was saying. what is going right in this fight against this deadly virus? >> dr. nesheiwat: it's great,

dagen, we are seeing a decrease in the number of hospitalizations come into patients, and ventilations. this means that hopefully less deaths, less cases. the concern is we just want to make sure we don't regress, that we don't engage in complacency. here in new york, especially, we are on the road hopefully opening up the economy soon. we have to adhere to the guidelines and not become complacent. not lay low as far as following the guidelines put out by the cdc by our surgeon general. >> dagen: katie, so much is talked about that people just want to get back to work. that is the greatest financial and economic fix of it all. what do you say? again, some places -- cities, towns, counties, even states -- could get back to a more normal life sooner than, say, new york city with its dense population. >> katie: first, i think the administration has done a very good job, all individuals in the task force, the president, the

vice president, going out every single day and thanking the american people for what they're doing. they acknowledged the sacrifices they are making in order to make sure we don't have a run on the hospitals. that we can beat this thing as quickly as possible so that people can go back to work. dagen, you're right, this is why one-size-fits-all federal policies are not necessarily a great idea when it comes to economic reopening. you've seen a lot of criticism of the president for not doing some kind of national lockdown, but there are differences between new york city and other states, other cities across the country. there are different populations, different numbers of people, differences in the way people live and go about their business. so, you know, that is certainly something that we'll see moving forward. i think some places are going to have a rougher time moving forward, longer periods of time as we move on and try to get people back to work. >> dagen: gillian? >> gillian: well, one thing we are starting to hear, dagen,

more and more from public health officials and epidemiologists and even economists now. when the virus broke out at a lot of the u.s. has now been shut down, it has happened in a sort of tiered fashion. president trump, for a couple of months, has said he doesn't want to lead in terms of telling the states and cities and local communities what they have to do unless he absolutely has to. so he has left that two governors to kind of figure out. booting up again, whenever that time comes, all these officials are now telling us is also going to be tiered and gradual and phased. whether that's for places of business -- >> dagen: did i -- i just lost gillian. jonathan, in terms of her attitude , this is something that come as a nation, certainly in modern history we have never faced. that's part of it. i said this a few days ago. american player us, it's the

nature of our freedom. we don't like being told what to do. so it does require government orders, "we must stay in your house, except to run urgent errands to the grocery store." it is all about the human psyche, the human mind and behavior. >> jonathan: yeah, for sure. we will get later into the spiritual part, the more theological part. but grace builds on nature. the nature of this, of how we are doing, emotionally, it's psychologically fascinating. we are at the point where most people say, "i see we are moving in the right direction," and that is super positive. the anxiety and the fear of the unknown. will this ever get better? i don't know. that is huge. it would be normal to feel it. any good coach or any good psychologist or therapist would tell you, just embrace those feelings. that's okay. it's normal to be anxious during

this time. if we didn't feel anything, we'd be very bad off. that anxiety and fear will turn the corner a bit, because we say we are moving in the right direction. that's powerful. >> dagen: dr. janette, in terms of therapies, we've talked a lot about hydroxychloroquine, with the azithromycin combination. i was talking to a very close friend of mine about other treatments for elements of this virus. one of the problems is, when your cytokine storm? >> dr. nesheiwat: storm. >> dagen: right. and this is doing more damage in the severest patients. the severest forms of covid-19. and they are actually drugs on the market, that are said to cain antagonists, to treat this

kind of immune response. there are so much going on, hospital by hospital, that we might not see on national scale. >> dr. nesheiwat: am glad you brought that up, because hydroxychloroquine and zithromax, that's one of many, many different therapies that are potentially available and that potentially will work with the final studies come out. we've got kaletra, remdesivir. remdesivir seems to be as effective as hydroxychloroquine and zithromax. then we have the plasma, convalescent plasma antibodies to help treat the critically i ill. we have multiple therapies available. i am actually prescribing some of these medicines. some of my patients say that it's helped them. some of my patients say he felt better in two or three days. some of my patients have said they haven't really noticed the difference. some patients were unable to fill the prescriptions because it was so difficult. we have multiple different types

of therapies and medications that are being tried and tested, which is amazing. that's what medicine is, it's a practice. we need to do trials and tests and not wait until the patients, got her bed, passed away. it's a last resort therapy. we've got it and we got to try it, in my opinion, until we get the vaccine in the market. >> gillian: have a question. >> dagen: bingo, go. >> katie: i just wanted to ask the doctor question. as you move forward we try to get the economy started, and there's been talk about groups being more isolated in terms of their risk. is that something that is still on the table as being talked about? every demographic in each group can be affected by this disease. how do you see the economy able to move forward while also taking the health implications into account? >> dr. nesheiwat: yes, that's a great thought, a great idea. my only concern with that is the younger population bring it home to those who are more vulnerable. bring it home to their parents

and their grandparents. it suddenly a good idea, something i should think should be looked at. we are to ensure that the younger population or those who are not as vulnerable -- i shouldn't say "younger," because younger people are being affected and hospitalized with coronavirus. you have to still adhere to the guidelines of social distancing. hand washing, disinfecting, to be careful that the younger and less vulnerable don't bring it to those who are more vulnerable. so that we don't see peaks and spikes of this virus and populations, in pockets throughout the country. i think it's a fairly something that needs to be look at explored, absolutely. >> dagen: i want to get back to gillian, but to kind of answer katie's question, part of the problem is the government can't single out people who have heart disease, or diabetes, or have high blood pressure, because it just violates our individual rights, one. what are we going to do, test people for antibodies and essentially told the workforce? "if you had the virus, you go back to work. if you haven't had it, you have

to go get it so you can work." there are all these questions that have to be answered that are tricky. gillian, get in here. i don't -- >> gillian: as we start going back to work, going back to normal life, whatever that is, it's going to be a phased and tiered response. this is what i was saying earlier in the segment. it's not going to be like a light switch that gets turned on. all the public health officials and all the economists are now saying recovery is going to be gradual and phased. it's not going to be automatic. not everyone is going to go back to work at the same time. if you go to a restaurant, they're probably going to do seating stages. they're not going to allow the restaurants and bars to fill up on day zero going forward, because they are too worried about community spread from that point forward. what we see in places like singapore now, as the ease up,

as they come over the other side of the hump, they see a phase two of infections because people are starting to gather and commune again. it'll take longer than we like it to. >> dagen: the reason they are so jam-packed in places like new york and los angeles and san francisco is because the rents are so high. what are the landlords going to do about the rents for those restaurants? they will be able to be as full as they used to be. a lot of questions. ladies, gentlemen, moving on to president trump right now. he's participating in an easter blessing from the oval office. we will bring you that as soon as we get it. meantime, with the pandemic closing churches and synagogues across the country amid holy week and passover celebrations, how religious communities plan to keep the faith while social distancing. ♪ are you overweight with a slow metabolism?

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services. jewish families have been holding virtual passover seders for the past two days. jonathan, i want to go to for us. what can americans really expect, looking ahead just two days from now to what a lot of christians -- it's really the only state of the year. is going to be able to be a day of communing with one another, or people are going to have to continue quarantining and find new ways to celebrate? >> jonathan: i think we should follow the guidelines, of course, coming to us from the cdc and the federal government. and from our state authorities. it's not that bad of a thing. let me tell you why. the christian mystery that we are celebrating and living right now, as well as the jewish tradition of passover, those of the first living of experience, they were very lonely times. think of what jesus suffered on the way to the cross. unbelievable loneliness, unbelievable fear, anxiety. there is no resurrection, of course, before the cross. even for passover, those who

chose to go ahead and follow what the prophets were telling them, and to put the blood of one of their livestock on their post in order that the angel of death went down mike would pass over, those are tremendously difficult times. what i would say is we can live the mysteries of our faith this year and our solitude and our anxiety and all of that, perhaps more closely to what the original experience was. that's not a bad thing. it's like a reset button, i think, for our country. not a bad thing at all. just think about church attendance, it was plummeting in the last 20 years. so it's not that when the churches were open we were all rushing and feeling the churches. now they are closed, and we have a great opportunity to ask ourselves about the most existential issues that face us as human beings. >> gillian: that's beautifully said. maybe a built in opportunity, a

unique opportunity this year for a lot of americans to really reflect on what solitude means. what it means to be lonely, and maybe grapple with that. dagen, what do you make? what are you planning to do this weekend? i know that family is really the centerpiece of your life. how are you planning to celebrate? >> dagen: i will share something personal. i think everyone is coping with this and suffering with this in different ways. whether you have a family member, even yourself, battling this virus. my mother just died in november. i haven't been able to see my father. i haven't seen him since early january. i haven't been able to see anybody in my family. i'm alone and coming into the office still every day. but i will read this, from the reverend peter gomes, which i read at my mother's funeral. the late peter gomez from harvard university. "it does not take a great deal of imagination or courage to believe that god is on your side when you are prospering, or winning. it takes a good deal of courage

and imagination to believe that god is on your side when you are suffering or losing." i think that is something that resonates with everybody around the world, regardless of what their faith is, gillian. >> gillian: especially poignant hearing that coming from you. those of us who know you, we know what you've been through the last few months. you've really been a beacon of strength amidst all of this for all of us who think we have problems. >> dagen: i've got a job. gillian, i've got a job. you know what? i love the people i work with. i'm grateful every single day for that. i'm just saying we have to think about everybody else and what they are going through. >> gillian: of course, of course. i knew been really a leader in terms of putting it all out there. emotional vulnerability, emotional strength. i just wanted to commend you for that, because he done a beautiful job. katie, how are you and your family grappling with this,

coming through seders, coming up on the weekend? what are you doing to kind of work with what you've got? >> katie: well, i think i've been focused on what dagen just said, being grateful for what you have. tough times are certainly a testament to people's faith, and they are a test of faith, as well. there are a lot of people who are probably questioning, "why is this happening?" and asking for some relief. the good news is that god is everywhere. he's in your home, and you can celebrate or think about things in your own way, communicate with whatever kind of faith that you believe in. the passover thing is interesting, because passover is also about the plagues that were survived. this time around, as jonathan was saying, it's a very real saying and very realistic in terms of having the same kind of experience that they did back in the day. it's a test of people's faith,

the white house has been very clear about people leaning on their faith. mike pence was making a point the other day that this is an opportunity for him to connect back to his church in his hometown, through a digital sermon. i think we are very blessed and grateful that we have those kinds of opportunities to make those connections, think to the digital tools that we have. it is very personal and tough for everybody, and everybody certainly deals with it in their own way. >> gillian: dr. nesheiwat, i want to ask you about medical advances, medical progress. a lot of people going into this holiday with new difficulties, they are mourning the loss of loved ones. dr. nesheiwat, i'm actually going to come back to you with that on the other side of this. we are in a moment going to hear from president trump. he is going to be delivering an easter blessing. >> dagen: the president, gillian, is in the oval office for an easter blessing with

bishop harry jackson. the coronavirus task force, the press conferences at the top of the hour. right now, here's the president. >> president trump: thank you very much. on this good friday, christians from all around the world remember the suffering and death upon the cross of our lord and savior, jesus christ. at easter sunday, we will celebrate his glorious resurrection. at this holy time, our nation is engaged in a battle like never before, the invisible enemy. our brave doctors, nurses, and responders, first responders. responders of all, they are fighting to save lives. our workers are racing to deliver critical medical supplies. our best scientists are working around the clock to develop life-saving therapeutics. i think they are doing really well in doing so. our people are making tremendous sacrifices to end this pandemic.

though we will not be able to gather together with one another as we normally would on easter, we can use this sacred time to focus on prayer, reflection, and growing in our personal relationship with god. so important. i ask all americans to pray that god will heal our nation, to bring comfort to those who are grieving, to give strength to the doctors, nurses, and health care workers, to restore health to the sick, and to renew the hope in every person who is suffering. our nation will come through like never before. i thank the many families who have prayed for me and for my family, and your prayers are felt, i am forever grateful. i would like to thank our great vice president and his wonderful wife, who we all know very well. karen, for the incredible job they do, and for their service not to the country for their service to god.

almost 3,000 years ago, the prophet isaiah rode these words. "darkness covers the earth, but the lord rises upon you, and his glory appears over you, for the lord will be your everlasting light." as our nation battles the invisible enemy, we reaffirm that americans believe in the power of prayer. we give thanks for the majesty of creation, and for the gift of eternal life. and we place our trust in the hands of almighty god. i'd like to just wish everybody a very happy easter. we are going to be celebrating that very, very special day, and it's going to be, hopefully, a very good weekend and a very productive weekend. i want to thank everybody in our country and beyond for all they've had to put up with. 184 countries, as of this morning, are fighting this

enemy. we pray for them all. with that, i would like to introduce bishop harry jackson, from maryland. a highly respected gentleman who is a member of our faith and a person that we have tremendous respect for. bishop, please. >> thank you, mr. president. first of all, let me say thank you for the job you are doing. you, and the vice president, to protect our nation. and to include the churches. many churches would have had to close down, had it not been for your insightful leadership. thank you both very much. good friday is one of the darkest days in the christian faith, in that christ stood in substitution for our sins. but the resurrection is our victory.

it parallels with passover. i'm going to read two versus and pray about what we want to have happen. we want this plague to pass over. we want everyone in america to be safe. psalm on 1105 says, "he brought them out with silver and gold, and there was no evil among his tribe." verse 39 goes on to say, "he spread a cloud for covering and fire to give light in the night." let us pray. lord, let the death angel pass over. let there be a mitigation of this plague, this disease. let medical science come forth. lord, let us come out with a driving economy, that silver and gold spoken of in that passage. let it be our portion. and then, god, as we face other challenges in the future, lord, cover us with a cloud by day and

a fire by night. in this great land that was set up to glorify your name, we want to come against the spirit of division. lord, let this be a reality in us. let there be a uniting of america. heal the divide between race, class, and gender. once again, give this great man, our president, and give the vice president wisdom beyond their natural limitations. give them insight so they can cover us, lead us, and bless us. we bless them and america in's name hope is on the way. amen. >> president trump: that was a great honor. thank you. and thank you all. have a great good friday, and

we'll see you in a little while. also, if i don't see you, have a great easter. thank you very much. >> reporter: mr. president, what is your message to churches? should pastors have easter services? >> president trump: thank you very much. >> reporter: could we ask you at the briefing perhaps? okay, thank you. happy easter. >> president trump: you, too. happy easter, everybody. >> dagen: and that was president trump in the oval office with vice president pence at his side. that was also bishop harry jackson from maryland giving a prayer for the nation. jonathan, your reaction to that? it is important for the leader of the country to send blessings on this good friday. >> jonathan: yeah. i like how he set it up and brought in the clergy to do the actual blessing. i like that. i'm thinking of people in

certain sectors of our social and political class who are going to be freaking out saying, "how could this be done? how is it that the president is mixing religion and politics during this time?" but i have a bible, reveal she would later today. a bible signed by fdr that was sent to every member of the military as a recommendation for reading. imagine if the president did that. right? he would be really, really criticized. having the president or political leaders invoke the help of god in a time like this is very normal and very healthy, and in line with our tradition. i think it was beautiful. >> dagen: i would note he didn't respond to at least that one question that we heard about what churches should do. that can wait. that will wait until the next hour. that was about the blessing from bishop jackson.

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♪ >> we have tremendous stimulus plans. we have things in the works that are going to i think really fire up the country. i think was going to happen is we are going to have a big bounce rather than a small bounce. but we will be back. >> katie: president trump vowing the economy will bounce back from the coronavirus and a big way, despite shocking jobless claims released yesterday showing roughly 10% of u.s. workers lost their jobs in just three weeks. as congress struggles to pass additional funding to support small businesses. this, as a new survey finds about 70% of small businesses have applied for loans,

reinforcing concerns that the fund may run out of money. though it's not clear yet how many of those businesses have actually received the loans. so, dagen, obviously going to go to you first on the president's claims that things will come back. we've been talking about how businesses will come back gradually depending on the regents and how hard they were hit by coronavirus. the bottom is dominic line is people need to get back to work at some point. >> dagen: they do, and right now is how fast all his money is being thrown at the problem can get to these individuals. small business owners and large business owners. the federal reserve is doing unprecedented things. these new lending facilities, even state and local governments. plus, the medium-size business businesses. that's $2.2 trillion or $2.3 trillion. we are not very good in terms of small business loans, even in terms of getting checks to individuals. the $1200 checks going out, beginning to go out any day now.

and even massive unemployment benefits. we are terrible at getting money to people and giving money to people rather than taking it from them. i guess that's the nature of a capitalist society. i heard from the labor secreta secretary, gene scalia, earlier that at least seven states have included that additional money and employment benefits. they are delivering it. other states are getting on board. it will be retroactive. you will get everything that is owed to you. in the interim, the sba and all these big banks need to do attic of a better job at getting this money to the fabric of this nation. and that is our small business owners. >> katie: so, gillian, you're in washington, i'm in washington. there was drama this week with not adding more money into that small business loan account before the senate and the house skipped town. now nancy pelosi is talking about not bringing back the house for weeks at this point. janette yeah, congress is debating now whether it is safe, and when it's safe

to come back at that april deadline that the speaker had set a few weeks ago. one of the things we are really seeing, to comment quickly on dagen's point, is that it seems like the more sophisticated small businesses are getting access to this money first because they have the means and the wherewithal and the resources to do so. right now it's really a mad rush on the funds that are already there for small businesses, and it's taking longer for businesses that aren't as necessarily savvy about navigating the government, to get the money that is owed to them. it's taking longer. it's not something that's fair, but it's an ended has spaded reality a lot of business owners are having to deal with it right now when it comes to workers. we saw 17 million americans applying for unemployment benefits who lost their jobs and just the last three weeks. that's according to economists. more americans than lost their jobs during the last recession, spread out over a period of two years.

so it's really a difficulty and hardship, and to an extent, chaos that we haven't really grappled with before. one of nancy pelosi and the democrats' opposition to that new proposal from republicans as they want money in there for hospitals. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell were saying, "we don't need to do that right now, we do it separately. let's focus on getting money to the small businesses." >> katie: certainly complicated. let's stand by and see if congress can get some more money into the fund. small businesses and big businesses can actually get things moving along when the president says the time is right. all right, this coronavirus pandemic causing additional heart aches to families trying to bury loved ones, as restrictions on gatherings for funerals. how people can cope. plus, we are awaiting the coronavirus task force press briefing set to begin a short time from now on good friday. we'll take you there as it begins. ♪

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♪ >> the crematorium and cemetery are two separate entities but they are in the same little plot of land. they are both backed up by maybe two and a half weeks now. for another two and a half weeks we can't do any sort of is positioning whatsoever. >> gillian: the coronavirus pandemic dramatically changing our way of life in america and our way of debt. burial rituals are being reshaped across the united states, as the country restricts gathering funerals. some say people might need to wait weeks in order to pay their respects. jonathan, i want to go to you first. it's not just that there are

these new restrictions and that people are being kept apart from their loved ones. it's that more americans are dying. there is a faster rate of passing then we've seen in other years at this time. >> jonathan: yeah, without a doubt. to die alone or to watch somebody else whom you love die alone and not be able to be with them, it's got to be the most excruciating pain someone can experience. we've all had this experience, whether it's as clergy or as laypeople, if somebody dies in our family or enter at a funeral home, there is no words that can make the pain go away or make sense of it. but a hug, or just being present, that makes a big difference. in these times, we can't even do that. i have no real solution to that. it's just what it is. if there's any consolation, i think it could be that maybe this time is helping us to

remember our own mortality. in the end, dying is ultimately a personal thing. nobody accompanies us through the next stage. that is something that we have to each deal with on our own, and as our faith helps us to make sense of it. >> gillian: at the end of the day, we all have to pass on alone, no matter our nationality, where we come from, no matter our religious beliefs. i want to point out for her viewers at home, we are now waiting for president trump and the coronavirus task force. they will be briefing starting a few moments from now. we will of course bring you there as soon as it starts. jonathan, to come back to you for a second, we are these horror stories for lack of a better word about people passing away in icus from covid who are basically texting farewell messages to their loved ones. what is your best sort of

spiritual advice for americans put in a situation like this? what do you hold onto? >> jonathan: in the end we have to hold onto what we have, and that is the people who are around us, and our faith and hope and life everlasting. i was walking in the park the other day, social distancing, of course, and i saw a gentleman who was homeless. from about 20 feet away or so, i said to him, "gosh, these must be tough times." i was expecting him to say "yes, because i don't have money here there's nobody to give it to me." the gentleman was probably 70 years old. could be anybody's father. he said one word. he said, "yes. lonely. it's lonely." in these tough times, let's gather around each other however we can.

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>> dagen: just a few moments from now, the daily white house coronavirus task force briefing is set to begin. we will take you there as soon as it starts. the administration continuing to urge americans to follow social distancing guidelines, heading into the holiday weekend. dr. nesheiwat, in these briefings we always look for glimmers of hope and good news amongst the horrific news of continued infections and deaths. what do you listen for in the daily briefings? >> dr. nesheiwat: i think some of the most important things,

especially for health care workers, is to make sure -- which we think we are now -- to make sure we have sufficient ppe. masks, gowns, gloves, ventilators. i know this firsthand being on the front lines here in new york. that's important. i think he's going to continue to say that we've got to be aggressive with physical distancing and social distancing, and not take a foot off the gas pedal, because we don't want to regress. it's bittersweet. we see that the number of hospitalizations and intubation's and ventilations have gone down, but the numbers of deaths have gone up. that is multifactorial. that could because dell might be because people are really sick and they can't get to the point of being hospitalized, because . our behaviors that we do now will affect we see in two or three weeks. i think on the white house task force our president is going to remind us to keep doing what we're doing, let's push forward, keep adhering to those guidelines, and we are on a path

to success. we are on a path to fighting this battle and conquering this disease that is affecting americans, and hopefully recover quickly, sooner, and open up the economy. >> dagen: was another thing we keep talking about are the immunity tests, and the antibody tests, dr. nesheiwat. dr. anthony fauci had said that those are potentially going to be available soon. is that something you're also listening for? people really want to know not just, "can i get tested for covid-19?" which, many americans -- i think we've tested less than 1% of the population so far. we want to be able to see if people have had it. that would be a path to going back to work. >> dr. nesheiwat: you're absolutely right. we need those antibody tests, and we also need to continue with nasal swabs and oral testing. we want to know, have you had it in the past? do you have it now? we want to be able to determine who can go back to work. are you me and? i was part of a study recently,

i had an antibody fingerprint test myself just a few days ago. i had no symptoms. they just wanted me involved in this study. it was an honor to be a part of it, to see at the doctor on the front lines, taking care of coronavirus patients nearly on a daily basis, did i maybe pick it up? could i be spreading it unknowingly? i had the test, it showed if i had i gm or igg antibodies, which would tell me if i had in the past, and i are now cured and healed, or if i have a current infection. i think it's a very important test and we will see more of it coming around soon, the next few weeks. >> dagen: thank you, dr. nesheiwat. more "outnumbered" in a moment. we await the task force briefing.

>> gillian: jonathan, we've got about ten seconds left. i want to go to you for a final thought. >> jonathan: the greatest miracle of christianity is the resurrection of jesus from the

dead, and the possibility for us to rise again and to have life eternal prayer that's what we hope for. it begins inside. >> gillian: thanks to everybody at home for joining us. thank you to the virtual couch. we'll be back on monday at noon. "outnumbered overtime" starts now. >> dagen: this fox news alert, we are waiting to hear from president trump and his coronavirus task force. holding their daily news conference early, on this good friday. i'm dagen mcdowell in for harris faulkner. here is where we stand now in the coronavirus battle here in the united states. one in 473,000 confirmed cases, as the death toll is now well over 17,000 people. despite these grim figures, some signs of hop