everybody tells me that to you. contact tracing on their mobile phone operating and i was wondering if this is something that you would consider. >> president trump: freedoms and problems and another thing is something that we are going to look at certainly and we know they done that, it is very new, new technology, it's very interesting, but a lot of people worry about in terms of freedom. we're going to take a look at that very soon. a brand-new. >> can you explain why it is appropriate in the middle of a pandemic to be talking about cutting or eliminating funding for the world health organization? >> president trump: we are going to talk about the w.h.o. next week in great detail. i didn't want to do it today, good friday, i didn't want to do it before easter and also didn't want to do it before we have all

the facts, but over the years, many years, we've been paying them 300 to 500 and even more million dollars a year. china has been paying them less than 40 over the years, so we are paying them more than ten times more than china, and they are very, very china centric as i said during the week. china centric. china always seems to get the better of the argument, and i don't like that. i really don't like that. i don't think it's fair to the tell that to dr. and i spoke to him one time, i think is a very nice man. i like him, but we are going to be talking about that next week in great detail, looking at a very, very closely. we want to make sure of money is properly spent. why is the united states paying

$500 million a year? it's a lot. that's a lot. and why is china paying last year, this year $42 million for generally under 40, so it's in the 30s. so we are at 500, 452, 400, 401, different amounts in different years. and at 40, 38, 36, 35, 42, 41. but you have to ask yourself that question and then it turns out to be in china's favor. world trade. we have world health and we have world trade. so we have the world trade organization and until i came along, we were losing cases, so many cases, it was ridiculous. always losing these cases. almost every case and then winning cases, we just had $7 billion, not going to put up

with it. china has been unbelievably taken advantage of us and other countries and considered it a developing nation. i said then make us a developing nation, they can take advantage of us because they were developing nation. india, a developing nation. united states is the big developed nation. we have plenty of development to do. and now, we are winning cases because we know that if we are not treating you fairly come going to pull out. the world trade organization has treated us very unfairly. they know i'm not going to put up with it because all of these countries are taking advantage of the united states. now in the court system, we are not approving new judges over the last year and working very hard on that. we have a minority position, meeting numbers of judges.

we have a minority number of judges. how do you win with minority number of judges that all of a sudden we are winning and if they don't treat us properly and we want $7 billion very recently in the money is pouring in and we want other cases too. we need a lot of cases. from covering it, the united states was taken advantage of by the world trade organization and speaking of china if you look at the history of china, it was a way since they went into the world trade organization that they became a rocket ship that they became a rocket ship because they took advantage of all of those. i'm saying how stupid were the people that stood here and allowed it to happen. but we don't allow that to

happen. and they don't treat us fairly, but now we are starting to win cases. how about somebody new for a change? >> school districts are closing across the country, florida governor ron desantis has not ruled out closing schools and may. saying that many kids are not vulnerable to this disease. do you agree with that assessment and do you agree that schools would recommend they open up? >> president trump: i have a lot of confidence in ron desantis and a lot of faith in ron desantis to make the right decision. ron desantis i had read where he's thinking about opening up the school's earlier at the end of the month. in i have to look at the numbers, have to allow governors to make decisions without overruling them because from a constitutional standpoint, that's the way it should be done.

i disagree, i would overrule the governor and i have that right to do it, but i'd rather have them -- you can call it federalist, you can call it the constitution, i would rather have them make their decisions but he's made a lot of good decisions and he hasn't said he's going to but he's thinking about it, so i'll take a look at it. >> a follow-up to one of the doctors. you allow children back in the schools. spreading the virus even further to some of those. >> president trump: the answer obviously is if you want. you want to talk about that may be. i think i know the answer to that. if you are a public health issues is that if you have a situation which you don't have a real good control over an outbreak and now you allow children to gather together, they likely in likely they will bring it home. i don't know the situation at

all in any detail and not specifically speaking about florida, just speaking generically about what happens when you have infections in the community and you have a congregation of people such as classrooms that that's a risk. >> the governor said that no one under 25 has died. i guess you could clarify that people under 25 can die as a result of this. >> president trump: okay. let's do that because i don't want to have to answer for that. people under 25 have died of coronavirus disease in the united states of america. >> if you reopen the country and may and there's a new outbreak with a spike in infections, for you open to the idea of shutting the country down again? resnick depending on the outbreak. that is happened in a couple of countries. i have watched a couple of

countries in many cases they are ahead of us from the same point that it attacked them before us. hit them first. i am watching what's happening with respect to certain other countries, some of them obvious and some of them less obvious with what they're doing on the success they're having and that's going to play a large part of the world. we are also setting up a counsel, a very great doctors and business people going to be announcing it on tuesday, some great people. this is beyond economic, i call it that opening our country task force or opening our country counsel so we don't get it confused with mike's task force which is done so great. and the way business leaders, great doctors, going to have a great group of people. will probably do it by teleconference because we don't really want them traveling for their own purposes. i don't think it would look good

also, but you don't want them traveling in. so we will do a teleconference. doing one with the banks that was very successful. and we will be announcing names on tuesday, and that will play a role and we will have to make that decision. we'll have to make a decision, to be close an area that the hot spot? i do say this, i want to get it open as soon as possible. this country was meant to be open and vibrant not where people are staying. i would love to open it. i am not determined anything, the facts are going to determine what i do. want to get the country open, so important. so i have a task force, i'll have a counsel that is going to be announced on tuesday with the names that you have a lot of respect for, a lot of great names, different businesses, different people. bipartisan, i didn't even ask. honestly, i think it's bipartisan. the one thing i didn't ask is are you a republican or

democrat? hard to believe, but i didn't ask. what they were idea is i'm what they think. also, very important different parts of the country because you go to the midwest, it's different than perhaps the east coast or west coast. the west coast, those numbers are pretty amazing on the west coast, very interesting. so they'll be announcing that in a very short while, probably tuesday. >> government officials in latin america and caribbean nations, bahamas, cayman islands, have been saying that u.s. authorities are blocking the shipment of ppe in certain cases and i'm wondering if you could speak to that? >> president trump: we have a tremendous force out there, naval force and we are blocking the shipment of drugs. so maybe what they're doing is stopping ships that -- we are not blocking. what we're doing is making sure we don't want drugs in our country and especially with over 160 miles of wall, it's getting very hard to get through the

border. they used to drive right through the border like they owned it and in a certain way, they did. they had human trafficking, all of a sudden they have a powerful wall up. and they are not driving through that wall. that wall is tough and it's also loaded up with equipment. cameras and sensors and everything you can think of. on top of that, we have drones firing back and forth over it. so it's very powerful, a very powerful barrier between mexico and the united states. a lot of people, what they're doing now is trying to come into the waterways whether it's the goal for the ocean itself and what we're doing is is we are being very tough and we are being tough because of drugs and also human trafficking and remember, it is mostly females. is horrible, and what we are seeing is horrible, but you have a big -- we have a human trafficking problem worldwide the likes of which you think of it as an agent thing.

it's not ancient. it's bigger now than it's ever been before over the last ten years because the internet made human trafficking to the extent that it is now which is massive. the internet made it so big. so we have a big naval force that is stopping, so maybe when you mention that, maybe their ships are getting -- we are stopping a lot of ships and we are finding a lot of drugs. >> on the additional money. >> president trump: i met you, but that's okay. >> on the additional money for small business, treasury secretary mnuchin speaking with the democrats in congress. >> president trump: you're talking about the new? >> are you willing to give into democratic demands additional money for hospitals in that? >> president trump: i'd rather have that be in phase four. i think it's fine, but it should be in phase four and i think we should have infrastructure and i think we should have a payroll

tax moratorium because that is something that over a period of time, the workers get semiimmediately over that period of time, but it's over a period of time. there are a lot of people, i'm one of them, that would've liked to see the payroll tax cut as a permanent cut, but we should do the double-edged business employee payroll tax cut a mess we are talking about that and i'm certainly okay with helping the states in helping the hospitals. they need big help. i'm willing to look at that very strongly. looking at that in phase four, the 251, the plan is working out well, the banks are getting started with the distribution, taking thousands and thousands of applications.

the swamp with bank of america and wells fargo and i guess citibank has just now kicking in, and also no one's talking the commercial banks, the community banks. everyone's talking commercial banks, the community banks are doing tremendous volumes and they are probably doing them faster from what i understand. the community banks are the easiest ones in terms of getting the money out. so the money is getting out, the applications are far beyond what we ever anticipated and it goes essentially to the workers. we want the business is to hold onto their workers because once they lose the workers, they're never opening again. it's not going to happen. >> i'm wondering if you could expand a little bit on the form that mexico would take to the reimbursement, what form with that take, we essentially had

that and i have a second question. >> president trump: there was no real cost because we are agreeing to produce a little bit less. you have it for another day, it's actually cheaper than storing it where you take it out and you deliver it to a massive wealth like the strategic reserves, our national strategic reserves where it has to be brought there and that's an expensive process in itself. but oil is getting to a point where there are some areas, some people would say the water is more valuable than the oil. he never thought you would see that. i know you cover it, you never thought you'd be seeing oil at $20 a barrel but how about $10 a barrel? so we are looking at a very strongly. there is no real cost. i want to help mexico out. we have a great relationship with mexico, great relationship with the president. i really like him a lot. you don't see all the problems when i took office, it was unbelievable what was going on

and they have been helping us a lot and we've been helping them a lot. making products for us, they sell it for us and it's fine, it's a good relationship. and sometimes it's a great relationship so could not have done any more than that, and i think there was political reasons for that for him, that other nations don't have. they don't have that, the nations we are talking about, the 22 other nations, they just don't have that problem. so it doesn't cost us anything and yet it's very valuable. we will be reimbursed in the future, may be in the near future and may be in the more distant future but will be reimbursed by mexico and it will be fine. but we get mexico over the hump. with all of that being said, that doesn't mean the deals going to happen anyway because they still have a lot of different states but this is one of the stumbling blocks. go ahead. >> china and some other countries have been particularly

active, what is your message of some of these adversaries? >> president trump: the way i view it is china has taken advantage of the united states for 30 years, i mention the world trade organization, china has taken advantage of us through that and using rules that are unfair to the united states and they should have never been allowed to happen. when china joined and was allowed to join under those circumstances, the world trade organization, that was a very bad day for the united states because they had rules and regulations that were far different and far easier than our rules and regulations, plus they took advantage of them down to the last, and you study china and you know what i mean, they

took advantage of them like very few people would even think to take advantage of them and again, considered a developing nation. we are not considered a developing nation. they are given advantages. for many years, china has ripped off the united states and then i came along. a hen right now you know china is paying 25% and we've taken and billions and billions and billions of tariffs from china i know a lot of the people kept saying no, we are paying. countries are different. not every country is china. but china would devalue their currency and also pour out money and they essentially were paying most of those tariffs, not us. they targeted our farmers, but took in so much money that i was able to give back when year was 12 billion, one year was 16 billion. i was able to give back our farmers the money that they were targeted. when you're 12, when you're 16.

i was able to give them back the 12 and give them back to 16, the farmers. and they weren't targeted and they're all in business. now were doing it because they got targeted in a different way. now i'm going to be very interested to see, we signed a deal with china and under that deal, supposed to buy a substantially in excess of $200 billion from us, it's manufacturing a product, lots of different things, they're going to buy a lot. i just want to see if they live up to that deal. i would say he would live up to the deal, but remember this, i never took off the tariff, is still 25%, 25% of $250 billion. so for the first time, i'm going before the virus because let's start all over again. i can't tell you that yet because that chapter hasn't been written yet but go up a few weeks ago, the deficit with the

united states and china was coming way down, nobody seen that, nobody's ever seen that before but the deficit has come way down. so now we start a new chapter and i can only tell you if a smart person is standing where i'm standing, we're going to do very well with china. okay? i have to also say this, i think our relationship and having the relationship i have with china is a good thing, but for the first time we are benefiting instead of being the sucker that got taken advantage for years, nobody. i said to china, how did this ever happened and i got to know it very well. representatives of china at the top level who were talking about. i say how did this ever happened? they looked at me and they said nobody ever called us. we didn't have a deal, it's not like we had a bad deal. we had worse, didn't have any deal at all.

so they just took advantage. think of it, $500 billion a year deficit. not 500 million is a lot of money, everyone things have made a mistake when i say 500 trillion, i say $500 billion a year deficit with china for a long time. was 200, 300, 400, 556 billion, 507. $500 billion plus a year deficit with china. now i'm charging them tariffs. we have built china with the money we gave them. i gave them a lot of credit okay? i gave them a lot of credit, they did it. but you know what? we made a of a lot easier. we gave them a fortune.

>> so i wanted to ask you a question and then ask a question from one of the reporters who couldn't be there because of social distancing, thank you. i was wondering if you had been tested for antibodies. has anyone else been tested for antibodies? >> president trump: we just develop those tests rated >> okay, good to know. so this question is from "newsweek." recently signed the care zack relief package but according to sosa's, billings executives are still depending on the layoffs. to stay in business or in this pandemic be penalized for laying

off workers after doing so? >> president trump: the eight hasn't been given yet but they will be asking my opinion peer they haven't even asked yet. they have not asked for it yet but they probably will. now at the same time, they do have to run the company. this isn't a great time to sell airplanes, let's not kid ourselves. you're a businessperson, boeing makes airplanes, they had a big problem but they make the greatest airplanes. they make the best airplanes in the world. they had the problem with one, they got it too complex. become so complex have to be able to fly it, it's a mistake, every two years they want to make it more and more. they had great success with the 737. then all of a sudden, they do the max and they say let's make it more complicated, let's put it on different engines, let's do this and let's do that. it was not exactly a good decision, bad decision, horrible decision. number one, human lives and

number two horrible is what's happened to the company. here's a company from company from a business standpoint who is one of the greatest companies in the world in my opinion. i think it amounts to 1% of gdp, some people say it's a half, i think it's one but here's one of the greatest companies and maybe the greatest and boom. now on top of what happened there with the two planes and they say they have that fixed, that's good. they say they have it fixed undisputedly. somebody said you should say it that way and they said sir, this is now the safest airplane in the air. i said that's what you should say. it's a very good statement. it's the safest airplane in the air. it's a very good statement, you should view say. i said by the way, your changing the name but whether you do are not, you should use that but he said that, boeing person said to me it's the safest airplane in the air. that's a great thing. but we know they're going to

need help. does that mean they're going to need help and a very cyclical business. that determination has been ma made. maybe they won't need help. they made so much money, who would've thought they could've made all of those planes parked all over the place in many cases i guess payment is not made, but who would've thought they could do that and they're still insolvent company? what a tragic thing happened and in numerous ways but also economically. so making sure that boeing is strong again is very, very powerful and very important and we will do whatever is necessary. please. >> president trump: should we keep this going, everybody? keep it going for a while, yes?

you're not going to criticize me if the conference was too long? it was too short, but if i stay too long, they say it was too long. someday, were going to get it just right. should we continue, should we continue? >> have you had a chance you have to speak to boris johnson? >> president trump: i have not. i had a call just to wish him well to his group. i don't want to be calling him now, i want him to get better. he's become a friend of mine, a real friend of mine. he has a great feeling for our country and obviously for his country, he's a tremendous guy. i think he's probably right now -- he might be 100% popularity right now. we talk about approval poll's, i'm sure you've never heard that.

i hear it all the time. his approval rating so let's see what happens, let's hope. >> where do you see something like community certificates or documents when we get to something like community specifically. once again, anybody testing. >> president trump: i see a lot of different things, going to be very careful for who comes into the country. my opposition party wants to have open borders. this is a case where i'm very glad that my position as i don't want open borders. i want very strong borders. that includes not only on the southern border, our southern border with mexico and you could also say our northern bordere strong borders and i think this is maybe one of the learning

points. we learn something about borders. we need borders. the country needs borders to be of great country and i think this is a great point. go ahead, did you have something else? >> americans who were currently stuck at home, if it turned out they had the disease and therefore shouldn't be infected again, some sort of documentation that would allow them to go back to work. a >> president trump: you mean once they get better? they have the disease and their better and they have the community now, supposedly according to what i'm hearing, it could be for a long. matt, could be for a lifetime over a year or two. so nobody's told me yet if it's for a year, two years, or if it's for a lifetime. like chicken pox, they say if you have immunity, they say for a lifetime. i hope that's true. but nobody's actually told me with certainty maybe because they don't know yet you don't know yet because it's new.

this came upon us, nobody knew. they do know you have it for a period of time. i did strong for a period of time. they don't know hence the antibodies that we are making. i saw somebody was really sick and he got better. a young person, relatively young person, 35 and physically fit and he get better, his first thing that he did was i want to give whatever i can give to help other people because nobody should go through it, it's a tough thing. so we don't know yet how long if you like to add anything to that, but we don't know yet is it a year? it will be a year, but is it more than a year? and only time is going to tell. thank you. >> will you have governors, mayors, members of congress on the open the country council that you talked about? >> president trump: i think we will put some governors, great

respect for governors. i've actually become friends with some of the democrat governors that i wouldn't really have had the privilege of getting to know. and governor murphy of new jersey is a very liberal guy. i'm not. but we've had a great relationship. as you know, i call him john bell. john bel edwards. sort of a cool name from louisiana. i have a very good relationship with him. gavin newsom honestly, i think -- i want automobiles to be made cheaper and safer and stronger, but save three or $4,000 for environmental equal. or better may be. and we are fighting on that, fighting a lot of different things. he wants open borders i want people to come into our country legally. but i've gotten very friendly with gavin newsom.

he's done a very good job here. i think i've gotten very friendly -- been sort of a friend for a long time, don't get to see him much but governor cuomo of new york would talk all the time. i spoke to him last call just before walking in here, i've gotten -- i really developed a lot of good friendships with the governors including he's done a great job in ohio, so i want to put on both parties, i want to have some governors, maybe not all of the governors but i like to put some representative governors on the council, yes. i would like to do that. i've asked a couple of them. they've all said yes. so far, everyone said yes. has a very important counsel. >> to have a message to those who are still planning to have

easter services defying the public health guidelines? >> president trump: you have to say it louder. >> those churches who are still planning to have easter services? >> president trump: the pastors. you have a very nice voice, but a little bit low and far back. i've had talks with the pastors and most of the pastors agree and is a very complex subject, let's face it for the obvious reasons, most of the pastors agree that they are better off doing what they're doing which is distancing. and they feel that let's get this over with and they want to get back to church so badly. can you imagine if we have easter sunday, going to be watching pastor robert jeffers and going to be watching on the laptop and the laptop is not the same as being in his church or being in another church, no matter what you say, but i've

done this for three weeks and i let people know who it is. had the biggest audiences they've ever had, they have millions of people now watching and people are really liking what they are hearing. we were going to learn it about 2 minutes, pastor robert jeffers and he is a terrific guy, a terrific man, gotten to know him very well, he's a man of great compassion, he loves our country and i'm going to be with him on easter meaning i'm going to be with him watching on the laptop. doesn't sound good, but it's one of those things. cannot be church. not going to get into it. cannot be church. most pastors and most people of faith, franklin graham is a person i have great respect for.

he is incredible. franklin graham, the job he is doing, he loves to do it. he has such a passion and that's why he's so good at it. he does it with incredible love and he will tell you, we've got to get our country cured. i know that there are some pastors and ministers and others that want to get together and i have great respect for him, two of them i know that i would say first, i'm a christian, heal our country. let's get healed before we do this. and there's time to do that. we will do it hopefully for the rest of our lives. please. >> the mercy and the comfort seemed to be underutilized, to

help get hospitals there. >> president trump: they were sent when projections were much higher. and tony backed it up and deborah has made the statement and said you're not going to need these, but we wanted to be prepared. they did an incredible job and maintenance for a period of four weeks and they haven't done in three and a half or four days, so we headed there. there was a disaster from the standpoint that you needed all of that, the javits center, andrew will tell you, we were ready to go, it's incredible the job they did but they are using less beds. it's a good thing, not a bad thing. using less beds. pretty busy over the last couple of days.

in the death numbers are horrific but you go back now and finding they're going to start to come down very substantially. so the mercy and the comfort were there in case they needed them, los angeles where you have the one in new york, and you have the other. fortunately we haven't hit numbers where they wouldn't of been yes. not as convenient as certain places, but the people were ready, willing, and able. going to do a great job. fortunately, we don't need just like we didn't need as many ventilators when they were asking in new york for 40,000 ventilators, i listen to them and they said you'll never need that many and they were right. i new york now when i don't really know with

mayor de blasio, a lot of ventilators. never felt you needed the numbers that we are talking about. we have a lot of ventilators that stockpile, the 10,000 can move rapidly almost anywhere. and hopefully, were not going to have to be. it is going to be a great military operation. we have an order coming in soon, 500 million we have companies with gm over 3m, also gm, 3m is doing a great job. i spoke to their ceo the other day and we settled it out, we had a dispute with them and is now all settled. and i think they are trying to

show the country something. so we've done -- not me, i'm not talking about me, this country, our country, the people that are doing it, army corps of engineers, fema, these people sitting right here, people that we have in the back that are watching every word that were saying, they've done a fantastic job, really have done a fantastic job. in please. >> i wanted to ask your question about testing. you mention the impossibility of testing entire american public spirited >> president trump: testing 300 american people? >> i'm getting with priorities, how there has been priorities in certain regional parts of the country and i wanted to ask you specifically about one industry in particular and that is food processing plants. is there a priority to get testing and food processing plants all across the country.

>> president trump: you're asking because of what happen, that's a fair question. and then he's got this great spike, said what happened in denver? and many people very quickly and they were on it so fast, you wouldn't believe it. and they knew every aspect, had people going out only testing who did you see, where were you, how many people did you meet, were you out to dinner in somebody else's home, where were you? where did this number of people come from? they are totally on it. this just happened. looking at everything smooth going down, topping out, then you have this one spike in denver like where did this come from? so will be looking at that and we don't want cases like that happening. but this is the kind of thing

that can happen. this is very complex, this is a very brilliant enemy. they develop drugs like the antibiotics. antibiotics used to solve every problem. not one of the biggest problems the world has is the germ has gotten so brilliant that the antibiotic can't keep up with it and they are constantly trying to come up with it. people go to a hospital and they go for a heart operation, that's no problem but they end up dying from problems, you know the problems i'm talking about. there's a whole genius to it. we are fighting not only is it hidden, but it's very smart. it's invisible. and it's hidden, but it's very smart and you see that in a case like that it's a flurry, and i said denver, what happened in denver because then it's doing

pretty well and they've got that under control. we met we learned that 16 million americans filed for unemployment, it is good friday, it is payday, we are seeing a troubling paralyzing lines at food banks around the country. what do you say to those americans in need right this moment? >> president trump: number one, i love them. number two, working very hard. we have more people working than ever before him a look at the numbers, hundred 60 million people. we have the greatest economy we've ever had. asian unemployment, the best numbers we've ever had in

virtually every way, and then you get hit like this and it is dramatic. people that had great jobs that went out to dinner, didn't have problems, take their family making good salaries, all of a sudden, you use the term cold turkey. it's cold turkey. they go from that to having no money and waiting for their checks which are being processed very rapidly, but they still have to go out and look for money. it's a terrible thing. all i say is we love them, we are working so hard. >> just a follow-up then, you chose not to do a national stay-at-home order. what authority do you have to do that? is in it up to the states to do that? has met the states can do things if they want and i can override it if i want to come in the national stay-at-home just so you understand, 95% of the country is staying at home.

as an example, speaking with the great governor of texas greg abbott the other day. a lot of people didn't even know it, but he had to stay at home. some people reported texas wasn't. he had a very strong stay at home. 95 to 96% south carolina as you know has it which at one point a week ago they didn't have south carolina. another great governor, mcmaster. 95% of the country is covered. now the states that aren't in again, constitutionally from a federalist standpoint, have i thought there was a problem, i would absolutely demand it. >> for the states to shut it down. >> president trump: i have great authority if i want to use it. i would rather have the states use it. and this is so shocking for me,

he is very reasonable, a lot of people are shocked. i have absolute authority to use it, but so far, our relationship with governors and the job they're doing, i haven't had to do it. what i do it if i saw a state that was out of control and didn't have the stay-at-home policy? i would do it in a heartbeat. >> there's obviously a lot of interest in how you're going to make that decision. >> president trump: is a very big decision. somebody said it's totally up to the president. greatest minds in numerous different businesses including the businesses of politics and the reason we are going to make a decision and hopefully it's going to be the right decision. i will say this, want to get it open as soon as we can, have to get our country open.

>> that's my metrics, that's all i can do. i can listen to 35 people and at the end, got to make a decision and i didn't think of it until yesterday. i said this is a big decision, i want to be guided, going to be guided by them, guided by our vice president, going to make a decision based on a lot of different opinions, someone may be disagree and i love to see where they don't disagree. it's always going to be a risk that something can flareup. look at what's happening where countries are trying to get open and there's a flareup we are looking at it for a local stand-up, so it's always a risk, this is date wow genius that we are fighting. we are fighting this hidden enemy which is genius, okay.

it's genius, the way it's attacked so many countries and so many different angles, you take a look at what's going on and the greatest doctors in the world, i think they're close, but they haven't figured it out yet. look at what it's done for some people. some people, it's grabbed and it is a horrible way to go. you want to know the truth. and the other people it hardly has an impact on, we talked about it, the sniffles, they don't even know they have anything. in some people, i looked at new york this morning and i look at what's happening in the amount of people that are dying and dying violently, it's a very tough adversary. but we are going to win and we are going to win it very decisively. i'm going to have to make a decision and i only hope to god that it's the right decision. but i would say without

question, it's the biggest decision i've ever had to make. >> the models that i understand them are based on social distancing continuing through may. is that correct, and if you were to open the economy on may 1st for some time during that month, but that impact the models in terms of that? >> are we taking turns today? good. so the model does state that it is through may. every month we've had these model discussions, for weeks now. so the models are informed by the data and you can see how much that model has shifted on the amazing work of the american people. so i think that's what we are evaluating right now. remember when i talked

yesterday, i've been in public health a long time. except for a bowl of where we worked very closely with the communities about specific issues, we've never taken a countrywide for global wide approach to mitigation. this is unprecedented. i will tell you, there is nothing in the literature about specifically what to expect, and i think that's why the models continue to modify themselves based on what actually has happened with social distancing and hand washing and all of the pieces that the american people are doing, decreasing and the closing of the bars in the restaurants, no communal eating, that was about to be a very big issue so therefore it makes it very difficult to interpret each component of social distancing and which ones are absolutely critical. there is a way to do that in

multivariate analysis they are states that are testing. they look at what new york is doing and they forgot that there is a utah and new mexico in the north and south dakota and a whole series of states that are doing testing and contact tracing and has been testing at rates higher than that per capita rate we do believe there is a relationship between age and seriousness of disease. not to say that there can't be young people with serious disease but proportionately, it's a smaller piece with serious disease, so when you have that kind of spectrum where the older and the more complicated and the higher

severity, the impression that there may be more symptomatic and younger age groups and that's without anybody test comes in. when you put all these pieces together, you're trying to understand where would be the first signal? so we have surveillance out there right now with cdc and influenza-like illness, i hope you're all tracking that, it is showing these small changes, we can believe it and that as a surveillance tool married with their syndromic peace, giving us the insight about where to test and where to proactively test in nursing homes and other vulnerable groups, that has been the signal in a series of the states that have very, very low prevalence and incidence of disease. so that's the kind of factors we are putting altogether to really define the best way forward, and we have superb road maps, i hope you all have seen them, been about six different road maps opening .

>> does that lead to more death? >> look at what changed with mitigation and now we are looking at those state-by-state and there's some states in there that are still in contact tracing so we are looking at the impact of that model and with that model predicted based on the type of contact tracing, less mitigation and more contact, are you getting what i'm talking about? okay. so there are states that didn't stay at home orders, but we are doing contact tracing. from outbreak. we are looking at them and how they have done and we are looking at what's happened in the big metro areas and we are

integrating all of that data together to make a plan going forward. so i can't tell you because look at how much the model has changed in just a week. now at 60,000 the curves are getting much broader there is still the dotted line with the confidence he interviews around the dotted line are getting bigger. when you see that, you know the model has a bit of an instability, so that's why tony and i faced a lot of our decision and discussion on cases had what physically has happened in that county at the same time, not ignoring the model by integrating the model is one piece of the thought process. come up here and say what you think about models. >> president trump: i just want to say that you talked about it could lead to death, opening up could lead to death, and you're right.

but staying at home leads to death also. and it's very traumatic for this country that leads to a different kind of death perhaps, but it leads to death also. so it's a very big decision. as i say, it's a big decision, will do a couple more and will go. >> thank you, mr. president. before you came out here, you said one of the last people you talk to was governor cuomo and at his news conference today, he said that he was asking you to use the defense production act to require companies to make more tests to streamline testing, is that something you would consider with ventilators? >> president trump: the other side seems to keep using that and i've been using it. i enacted it. some people thought viciously, just ask a couple of companies if you want you can just look up the names and i'm surprised, we

actually have great tests, we have others under development read if you don't need full testing as the doctors have been talking about ad nauseam him, so i would be surprised that he would meet at that way weird if he did, i'd have a much different type answer. we talked about testing. we did talk about testing and one of the things i did was i put the two doctors in charge of that call. i said you know what, had two very talented people standing here getting ready to go on, let me have them talk to you and we talk to them at length and i think by the time they finished, he understood what we were saying. he understood it very clearly. >> you talk to the this week about holding the world health organization responsible for its response to the coronavirus. i'm curious if you've given any more thought to holding china

financially responsible for the parts that have played an economic toll it is taking on the american people. >> president trump: nobody has been to china or treated china as strongly as i have, as you know, you reported on it. billions and billions of dollars is flowing into our treasury because of what i've done with china. it's a very sad thing that happened, and i think of people knew including the world health organization, and i do believe they knew, but i didn't want to tell the world we are going to get to the bottom of it and we will have reports on all of this and we are not happy about it, but i wanted to leave the world health for later and i can tell you that we are constantly in touch with china, talking to china, and we've expressed how he felt. we are not happy about it.

we are not happy about it at a all. >> esther president, we hear from a lot of people who see these briefings as sort of a happy talk. >> some of the officials paint a rosy picture of what is happening around the country. do you have enough masks? no. do we have enough tests? no. do we have enough ppe? but do we have enough masks, y yes. you said to me have enough masks. we have enough tests, yes. plus, we are developing new tests. do we have enough ventilators, yes. we have enough hospital beds, yes. we built 20,000 hospital beds. we have enough hospital beds. go ahead, jim. >> you watch the coverage, a lot of coverage.

>> president trump: a lot of it is fake news. >> when the doctors and the medical experts. >> president trump: depending on your end, they always say that because otherwise you're not going to put them on. the governors have said last night they had a group of governors, 14 governors that were together someplace and they said it's been unbelievable what happened, we've been totally responsible to a point where we are getting calls from foreign countries saying you have all the ventilators, can we get some? going to try to help some of these countries. these people have done an incredible job. this is not happy talk. maybe it's happy talk to you, not happy talk to me, talking about death, talking about the greatest economy in the world. when they will have to close it off and we did the right thing because maybe it would have been 2 million people who died instead of whatever that final number will be which could be 60, could be 70, could be 75,

could be 55. thousands of people have died. nothing happy about it. these are the saddest news conferences that i've ever had. i don't like doing them. you know why? because i'm talking about death, i'm talking about taking the greatest economy ever created with the greatest numbers we've ever had in almost every aspect of economics from employment to companies, look at the airlines having the best year and now all of a sudden we have to save them. there is no happy talk here. this is the real deal and i've got to make the biggest decision of my life, and i've only started thinking about that. i've made a lot of big decisions. he will understand that, as is by far the biggest decision of my life because i have to say let's go. >> you say many doctors who have an unbelievable job and i watched a certain network and it

wasn't fox, and you had doctors saying that we've done an incredible job. you just read off, but we have ventilators, we have equipment, we have beds, just tell me a little while ago, he's got plenty of beds. in fact having a hard time filling javits center, built them 2,900 beds. that's not a fair question. >> are talking about reusing ppe. >> president trump: we have masks, we have everything, and we were trying to get ready for the surge. and a lot of people said it will never happen. deborah said it, you'll never need that many beds. 40,000 ventilators, i felt it too. you never need that many. guess what? we are the envy of the world in

terms of ventilators. germany would like some, france would like some, helping countries out, spain needs them desperately, italy needs them desperately, mexico needs some desperately, asked me last night would it be possible to get 10,000 ventilators. within a short period of time, i'll be able to help out mexico, it is not know, it is yes, yes, yes. we are in great shape and what's "happening now" is those numbers horrible, but take a look at the number of beds, we have beds available all over new york. new york being the epicenter. new york has experienced something that has been absolutely horrific. i saw those people being buried yesterday, fortunately, we have the beds and you can speak to mayor de blasio and speak to governor cuomo, people can't even believe the job