"the five" of course we've got the breaking news with obama endorsing biden. i'm sure will all have a lot to say about that. no doubt, it will be a fun show indeed. so i will see one-story time and i'll see you on "the five" in the meantime, here's bill hemm bill hemmer. >> bill: dana, thank you, good afternoon, i'm bill hemmer, president trump set to meet with health care executives at the white house this hour as he debates when the economy should reopen. big decision here, now. some states are working together cut to come up with plans to restart their own economies without the white house. one of them is california. we are waiting to see if the governor mentions it in his news conference now, about to get underway in sacramento. meanwhile, near governor andrew cuomo firing back after the president claimed he had "total authority to decide when the economy opens up." >> the president is clearly

spoiling for a fight on this issue. this is no time for politics. and it is no time to fight. if he wants to fight, he's not going to get it from me. period. this is going to take us working together. he does not have total authority. >> bill: chief white house correspondent john roberts leave the sour. nice to see you john, on the north on, let's begin with you. >> bill, good to see was well, it's a bit perplexing as to what this argument is all about. certainly the president has got authority over border and international travel restrictions, things that are under federal control. but it is the state governors who have been issuing all of these closures and estate home orders, still, the president insisting, again, today, that the authority to fire the starter pistol to reopen the american economy is his, and taking aim at governors in the northeast and west to saying they are getting together on a regional basis to make plans to reopen. the president tweeted "tell the

democrat governors that mutiny on the bounty was one of my all-time favorite movies, a good old-fashioned mutiny now and then is exciting and invigorating thing to watch. especially when the mutineers need so much from the captain. too easy." in his daily press conference today, new york governor andrew cuomo acknowledging that he has gone hat in hand to president trump for equipment and supplies, but that he will make the decision about what to do regarding new york. listen here. >> his proclamation is that he would be king. that's what a king's. a king has total authority. that simply cannot stand. >> come said he doesn't want to have a fight with the president, will not have a fight with the president. unless, of course, the president tries to get him to do something he doesn't think is the right thing to do. from a safety and health perspective. and then, he would be open to a fight with him. bill. >> bill: john, what needs to be in place before the economy gets moving again?

>> there's a whole idea with the soft target date of may 1st, there's a lot that has to happen between now and then. we have to see the infection curve really start to flatten out, and then there need to be more measures in place for rigorous testing and contact tracing. dr. anthony fauci telling bap in an interview earlier today that so far, those things that are necessary to reopen the economy are not in place, in an interview with laura ingraham tears tonight, though, the vice president said the coronavirus task force met this morning to make sure that there will be sufficient testing and contact tracing in place. meeting with a number of people this afternoon we have recovered from the coronavirus, president trump saying he is getting close to issuing new guidelines to begin the process to get america back to work. listen to what the president said. >> president trump: and i'm going to be making a decision pretty quickly, and it's being done in conjunction with governors. we have tremendous support from governors. and what i do is going to be done in conjunction with governors. >> so the way that it looks this

is going to work, again, this is part of the interview the vice president did with laura ingraham. as of the vice president in the white house will come out with new guidelines that they will disseminate to the states, then it will be up to the states to decide how and when to implement those guidelines. the vice president also suggesting that areas that are least hard-hit by the virus can probably be the first months open up, it may take places like new york, detroit, new orleans a little bit longer to do that. the president also, this afternoon, bill, will be announcing who will be working with him on this new advisory board, i think it's probably the best way to put it, to reopen america, he will be consulting with a number of experts from a number of different sectors, medicine, the economy, business, political leaders as well, to determine where and when and how american can start to get back to work. >> bill: he said that would involve governors, waiting to hear if that's the case. john roberts from the north lawn, appreciate that john.

some health officials warning of a possible second wave of covid-19 cases. my next guest was the first to say this four days ago. >> so, were going to go down from now on in terms of numbers of mortality. some states will have to peek a little bit later, but california, my state, new york are going to go down in terms of the numbers of mortality. so this is a very positive we move forward, the worst is behind us as a country. >> bill: there was, the worst is behind us. professor at the university of washington, sir, how are you, good afternoon, thank you for coming back here. what do you see in the models, they are, doctor? >> the worst is behind us as a country. as i've said before, many states are seeing a decline. some states who delayed social distancing measures will see a peek later, they will come down later. what we're seeing right now as a

country, we're really making progress, and americans have stayed at home and that has helped us to really contain this pandemic. >> bill: couple of things your doctor, on the screen, pull up a chart, this is the number of deaths that goes to april 10th. which was friday. the day you said that. it's the highest graph, it's the highest bar on the entire graph. perhaps you're right about that. there's another projection in your model that says on june 27th, the united states will see its last death because of the coronavirus. how can you tell that now? >> the model is still tracking very well, the mortality in the u.s., and actually, an average for some states, that last death will be much earlier. for example, my state, we peaked at april 5, we will see a reduction in mortality by the first week of may. so, certain states are ready to consider returning to business

much faster than others. as long as we were able to make sure we have in place the testing and the capacity to trace all the cases. in their context. >> bill: a few other things i saw, peak hospital use has artie hit, you believe, in new jersey, and in new york, michigan, illinois, and louisiana. boy, we hope you're right about that. >> we are seeing here, and washington, given my experience at our own university, we are seeing a decline in patients, our capacity to do testing is increasing, yesterday, were talking officially to how we can help them to go back, were talking to oil to make sure we do testing for those employees to go back to business who are working, there's a big company here, testing their employees to go back to work, we are increasing our capacity of the university of washington. so good news coming from seatt seattle. >> bill: okay, in the minute left here, you're to come out with a model that can show how different parts of the country can reopen.

is that ready now? >> no, we will release it tomorrow at 12:30 p.m. seattle time, pacific time, and then yes, i will be happy to come and talk to about it. >> bill: i love it, you have an invitation to come back. what would you say to those who watch and listen and wonder, why should we believe you now, doctor? >> we have been read so far in our models here at the institute for evaluation, weird doing this to make sure that if there are changes in the country, we will capture that, because we believe we want to provide the best information. i want to talk to people who stayed at home and have listen to us in the population, we asked them to stayed home, and they did it. now it's my turn, and our turn to listen to them and help them open the business of the country. >> bill: doctor, come back tomorrow, the invitation is out there, we will do a podcast on thursday, we will blasted out across the country over the weekend, and we will have a longer extended conversation. okay, doctor, thank you for

being a friend of the program, we'll talk you tomorrow, thank you sir. >> joe helped me manage h1n1, he prevented the epic democrat from becoming the type of epidemic are seeing now. he helped me restore america's standing in leadership in the world. on the other threats over time, like nuclear proliferation and climate change. joe has the character and experience to guide us through one of our darkest times and heal us through a long recovery. >> bill: former president obama nell fortner surely making endorsement for vice president joe biden. neutral during the primaries. owner bringing karl rove, hope you're doing well, hope to see him in person again, sometime soon, hopefully. a lot of folks might've been saying what took you so long, but he made a point of saying i'm staying out of this primary battle. why do you think you took that approach during this, carl? >> well, because it was clear right from the beginning that a

lot of the people that surrounded president obama as political advisors and so forth had real doubts about joe biden as a candidate and both of the primaries and the general election. and i thought that ambivalence was sort of reflected today in president obama's endorsement. first of all, it took him 2 minutes into the 12 minute take before he even brought up the issue of politics. and you're right, he prays to joe biden from a personal perspective, but i think he did to intentional things that could work or couldn't work, into unintentional things that i think could hurt him. he specifically said "joe biden was responsible for the economic recovery and bringing back the car companies" and together president obama and vice president biden rescued the economy and brought it back. that sets up a comparison between what happened under president obama and what happened under president trump before the coronavirus. and i think a lot of people

might think well, i did okay in that very slow recovery under obama, and biden, i did a heck of a lot better once trump came into office, particularly blue-collar types whose wages were rising slower than their supervisors under president obama, but were rising much faster than the wages for their supervisors under president trump. >> bill: so here is what brett personnel said from the trump team, now that biden is the only candidate left in the field, obama has no other choice but to support him, even bernie sanders beat him to it. obama was right in the first place, biden is a bad candidate who embarrassed himself and his party. president trump will destroy him. so they're going to say, it did not take a profound courage to pull this off today. i think it goes back to the question, what did you think of his hands off approach during this? >> well, i think it was probably wise, because he had to be the figure who unifies. there had to be somebody who is

standing apart from this who had stature who could say let's all come together. what's interesting is, he said let's come together today in this youtube video by saying let's surrender to the guy who lost. he put joe biden clearly on the left of the democratic party. he said he's "the most progressive agenda" he is calling for "real structural change." he said look, i wouldn't have necessarily run on the same things if i were running today because you know, income inequality is terrible, and our education system served up suggesting free college, we've got to have "bold new green initiatives" in a way it was sort of dismissive of the more moderate approach that we saw under president obama, and he painted joe biden as being on the most left-wing candidate the democrats have ever nominated for president. now, maybe that's true, but i'm not certain that if the election is going to be decided by people who were sitting there saying i'm sort of in the middle, i sort of like what donald trump is doing, but i don't like how

he handles himself, that that's necessarily the most powerful message to get to them. a >> bill: okay, carl, seven months to debate that. i have about 30 seconds to get to the next point. "wall street journal" came out with this, reopening the economy at last, governors and trump can share credit if they do this the right way. that's a headline from the editorial board. i heard senator rob portman from earlier from ohio saying it's not the president's call, it's not the governments called comets of the individual's call. the american people individual by individual decide whether or not it's safe to be in school, the grocery store, or church. they will determine how the economy opens up or does not. what you think is the right path on this? >> well, i think everybody's rate. the president has a role to play in this, governors several to play in. individuals, they've got to desire it, but they can act in violation of local laws or local ordinances or local orders to shelter in place, but they can have an influence on their leaders. let's do this thoughtfully, let's do realize that the country is not all uniform,

there are different situations that apply in different places. federalism works here, let's approach this with an idea of tolerance and good cheer and i think we can work our way through it. but let's realize everybody has a seat at this table. business, labor, local government, state government, federal government, and the individual all have a role to play in helping local leaders figure out what to do in this important moment. >> bill: nice to see you, carl, we'll talk again, karl rove. for weeks we followed the story of carl goldman after he tested positive for covid-19. today, he and his wife jerry share their story at the white house. we will talk to them live coming up this hour. and i will talk to a researcher who helped develop a new test that just got the okay from the fda. it could be a game changer in your town. >> you can use a saliva rather than the swab in the nose. it's more comfortable for the patient, obviously, can be repeated multiple times. and it is actually safer for the health care provider in terms of

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lawmakers have now been arguing for weeks that china's government has been and is continuing to underreport the true number of coronavirus cases inside the country. >> the china virus could've been a local health problem and you help will haunt if the chinese communist party had been transparent and honest. >> now one washington policy group estimates the real coronavirus cases inside china is closer to 2.9 million. the american enterprise institute claiming the communist party has definitely made estimation difficult. outside of hubei province, cases are low by a factor of 100 or more. this comes as "the washington post" reports today it's got the smoking gun when it comes to the chinese government's alleged cover-up. two new state department cables warning about safety issues at a wuhan infectious disease lab. the first cable, dated january 2018 "mourns that the

labs work on coronavirus' and their potential to human transmission presented a risk of a new sars like pandemic." the cables note insufficient technicians or investigators to operate safely. now, so far, the state department isn't commenting on the existence of these two cables. fox news, though, has learned they're both allegedly marked sensitive but unclassified, an indication that they do contain national security information. the chinese foreign ministry insists that since day one, they have notified the w.h.o. of the epidemic, shared the genome sequencing of the virus, carried out international cooperation and helped other countries affected, all at the earliest time possible. now, over the weekend, the chinese government unfortunately made new moves to tamp down further on scientific information related to the virus, a new communist party directive says that all academic researchers, policy papers have to be vetted by the government

prior to publication, bill. >> bill: gillian turner, thank you, outside the chinese embassy in washington, thanks for that. the first semester eggs are showing up in bank accounts this week, and a moment, a financial expert answers some of your many questions about how you can get help. plus, we will talk to the president of a food bank who says she is handed out 50,000 pounds of food today. how can you help on that, next.

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>> bill: we have provided assistance to roughly 175 million americans. it's an insured and eric number. predominantly, middle-class folks, main street folks, blue-collar folks and the like.

nothing like this has ever been done before. >> bill: talking about checks millions of americans certainly got this week. you can track your money with the new app the irs is launching gold get my payment. chris hogan author of everyday millionaires with me now, nice to see but will come back from nashville. we put out between hours ago, there are so many questions, let get to the first one from lizzy, she says a small business owner, applied for economic injury disaster loan program weeks ago. haven't even received an email confirmation. what would you say to lizzie, chris? >> i would tell her, bill, lizzie, you're going to have to be your own best advocate. you're not only going to have to follow the email, but you're going to have to get on the phone. you can sit back and wait, you're going to have to be proactive. i would reach out to all of the 800 numbers, all numbers they provided, i would keep a number as well as the call log.

>> bill: i have high credit card debt that i can now not pay, what should he do? >> well, this is a reality, what i would tell you, you're going to have to pay even if you can't pay. what i mean by that is reaching out and contacting your creditors, telling them about your situation, no one can read your mind, so i want you to make a scripture that explains what you went through, i would do to make a list of value creditors and account number, i want you to reach out, call them, be proactive, let them know your situation, let them know what you can afford to pay, all right you can't pay. but it only you to do is don't make a proper promise to pay you can't keep just to get off the phone. >> bill: fair advice. can you file for the ppp loans which the paycheck protection program and unemployment at the same time as an independent contractor? parenthetically, asking for for a friend. i think a little bit of tongue-in-cheek and that, how's the answer.

>> ava, unfortunately, young lady, it you cannot do both. what i would do, is you want to sit down and understand what you're dealing with here. what the people be peak, payroll production plan, what it involves, all the stipulation, there's a lot of great area so y need to understand what you're dealing with. i would advise people, reach out to your tax consultants, sit down, have a clear conversation so you know what you're dealing dealing with. >> bill: chris, i could go on and on here. but you're the expert, what questions have you been hearing the most during this? >> a lot of people want to know, bill, is this going to be the only version of help that. i think a lot of people aren't dissipating another stimulus package or another something else coming down the pipe. i want people to understand, these dimming tracks in these programs are just a band-aid. we have got to step forward and be proactive with a plan to help ourselves. we can expect the government to try to save the day time and time again. i'm advising people to go into

conserve modem, begin to have a game plan for yourself or the next couple of months, but be proactive, scaled-back and your spending, be very intentional and when you do still do spend, but at the same time, be aware. this is going to change our mind-set. i hope this causes an awakening across the country of how we deal with our fight finances. >> bill: thank you, chris, they're trying to put a lot of money through the pipeline at one time. it has proven to sticking to for too many this far. chris hogan, nice to have you back. >> bill: airlines looking for ways to make some money as they fight for ways to survive. that apparently include selling miles to credit card companies at a discount, what does that mean for your miles, brady it has that story, he's no here in chicago. >> bill, good afternoon, this is normally one of the busiest airport in the world, you wouldn't know that looking around here today. at any given time in this terminal, there are more united

employees than there are passengers. that's why, as the airlines awaiting a deal with the federal government, they're looking for other ways to generate cash, "the wall street journal" reports united and delta have had conversations with the credit card partners, the banks that run those credit cards about selling the banks airline miles in bulk and at a discount. we did reach out to both united and delta, neither would comment, but they didn't denied this report. >> bill: okay, i was trying to hang here for a moment, i think the luster signal here, trying to get it back, but apparently that's not going to happen. so it goes, grady come back soon and another day the feds approving a test for covid-19, could this be a game changer? we'll talk to a researcher who helped develop that. plus were on the ground of a hard-hit state of mississippi, talking with survivors after those powerful tornadoes to door cross.

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>> bill: fox news alert right now, we are monitoring several events across the country including this, president trump meeting now with executives of the white house. we are told he speaking to the pool reporters, so we are watching that emily will bring you the latest developments as soon as we can see it, we will plate for you at home. meanwhile, the feds giving emergency approval to a test that uses a saliva to determine whether or not someone has covid-19. one of the scientists who helped develop the test is that it's faster than us a swab and savor for health care workgroups. a scientist is with me now, professor andrew brooks from rutgers university in new jersey. professor i can see you now, tell me about it, how does that work? >> so it's quite simple.

instead of having a nasal oral different deal slob that is placed into the back of your throat, you simply have to spit into a tube, with some spin in a tube, you keep that tube, preservation agent observes the nucleic acid from the saliva allowing us to safely transfer it to the lab. doesn't require a health care professional to collect it, 6 inches away from a potentially infected person. also saves that personal protective equipment that we need to keep a patient to the hospital. >> bill: we cover a lot of ground on that, how many would you test, professor? >> so think about it this way, from a collection standpoint, the middlesex county as having drive through's, ten lanes that go through the motor vehicles. imagine if you had ten cars lined up, but you only had three people that could actually do that collection every 12 to 20 minutes. now you open up all those lanes ending have a single person handed tube to somebody, two or

3 minutes later they headed back. you can have ten going through every two or 3 minutes to collect. what it does is it makes the collection more simple, more safe to increase the capacity for testing in the laboratory. >> bill: abbott thing they can do this test within 5-14 minutes. how many long does it take your results to come back? >> so that as a single test at a time. for this test, the extraction of the nucleic acid in the q pcr, most results are returned within 28 hours or 48 hours of a retest is required. >> bill: this is a drive-through. this is really revolutionary. not only that, but you keep the health care workers a safe, why did the fda finally -- relations a fight finally, why did the fda come in and say this thing works, and let's go. >> i think they've always been looking for better ways to get people tested. we presented data from our 30 years of experience in working

with all different kinds of biomaterials. that demonstrated viral saliva can provide plenty of material to be able to do this analysis. they welcome the review of the data, because of the state fee, because of the stability, and the impact that it can have in making impact for the collection of testing safer and more globally available. >> bill: i think it's awesome news. if i'm living in new jersey and i want to get a test, can i do that? and when? >> you can. you can, it's available now, you should look to your county offices where draft theories are open, contact through ambulatory care facilities, your physicians. most of the large hospital networks are coordinating collections to be able to do this. it doesn't require you to go through drive-through. the test can be provided in any health care setting by any supervised health care professional that will provide

the device. so rw jay barnabas and other health care symptoms are incorporating this to support this as well. >> bill: would you call it a game changer? i would. >> i will. we got a call from the white house covid testing task force as surely after we got our ua approval. they expressed their desire to have everyone tested. until everyone can be tested, we can get kids back to school, we can't get people back to work. we can't so our social framework back together. we need more testing available and easier. this is just one small step in that direction. >> bill: good work, professor, andrew brooks from rutgers university. well done, thank you for your time. >> before we could even get to the kitchen, it hit, and it just flipped us. i mean, we flipped upside down. all i need to do was grab my youngest son, i held onto him for dear life, their tornado came around and picked everyone

of us back up again, and just flying everything off of us and into the side, we stood up, we were fine. >> bill: man oh, man, harrowing story of survival in the state of arizona. storms killing over 30 people across the south on easter sunday. charles watson and jefferson davis county mississippi was is just northwest of heaven's berg. >> bill, we moved away from a lot of the damage that we can safely talk to you, but state officials here in mississippi are reporting more than two dozen tornadoes touched down here on easter sunday. killing at least a dozen people. the path of destruction left behind is extensive. homes are flattened. the power of those tornadoes ripping through trailers, flipping suv and just leaving piles of twisted metal all over the place. here in jefferson davis county, people say that they are past the initial stage of disbelief, and people here in at least six other counties across the state say they were getting a process

of cleaning up and rebuilding their lives. despite the loss and devastation, people say they're trying to keep a positive mind-set throughout all of this. many just thankful they were able to walk away with their lactose. >> by the grace of god, i'm still here. you can get new houses, but you can't buy your life back. it doesn't worry me about the house because i'm still alive with my family. >> and with the coronavirus pandemic and full play, it's been sort of a scramble for state and local officials to provide temporary housing for people. everyone we've spoken to so far has said they haven't heard from any state or local coal agencies but they say there is some help. >> they called me last night and they wanted to put us up. so in a motel in habsburg but i think to god that my sister-in-law.

>> and we reached out to the mississippi emergency man management agency to seek if they can help some of the folks you need assistance. folks are telling me they're assessing the situation. >> bill: and top of all the covid-19, charles watson, thank you sir. demand is rising for basic needs in a pittsburgh food bank is just one of the many organizations doing what they can. the president of that food bank has a staggering number to report today. he will hear about it when she joins me next.

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>> bill: with americans across the country looking for basic items, food banks are seeing a surge in demand. cars have been lining up for miles to collect groceries from a food bank in western pennsylvania. that organization is seeing a

543% increase in visitors from this time a year ago. we sustain us as president and ceo of the greater pittsburgh community food bank, lisa, how are you doing, good afternoon to you, i saw number today that blows my mind. hello. you gave 50,000 pounds of food today, did that happen? >> that did. in butler county, north of pittsburgh, we served 1,000 families today, and provided that much food, and actually, in the last five days, we have served 3,000 people. >> bill: what does 50,000 pounds of food look like? that's a lot. >> each car received two boxes of shelf stable items. canned fruits, canned vegetables, spaghetti, pasta sauce, peanut butter, those items that are essential grocery items that families need. >> bill: wow, you've worked

with feeding america, you worked during 9/11 and katrina, you've seen a lot of this. how do you size of today's events compared to that history? >> well, it's unprecedented, bill. i can't say enough, as a member of feeding america, the network of food banks, we do respond to natural disasters, i was in new york city after 9/11, and louisiana after katrina, but they are, you're responding after the disaster has happened, and it is localized to that community, and there are a huge amount of resources pouring in. here, with this crisis, we are responding as the crisis evolves, and actually, it is growing, we continue to see a dramatic increase in the number of people calling us, coming to our front door, and in our lines for our drive up distribution. every week, we are serving more and more people. >> bill: unbelievable, lisa, do you have what you need? >> well, right now we have it we need in terms of food supply.

but, breaking news, just in the past hour, i had a conversation with our coo, and the folks who sorts the food for us, and i found out that a number of the orders that we have our being shorted, which means that we are getting less than what we ordered. some, as much as two-thirds are shorted. so we're only receiving a third of the load or half of the load. and this is very troubling to me, this news i just got. >> bill: why is that happening? >> well, there's not the food out there. the food supply is being shorted, retailers are able to pay more than a food bank can pay for a tractor trailer load of food. we are really concerned about our food supply. >> bill: well, how can we help? the website? what can we do, lisa? >> yes, the best way to help right now is through monetary donations. because, we do have large purchase orders outstanding

within the food brokers that we are purchasing from. in fact, just for the month of march and april, we are spending $1.7 million to purchase food. typically, into months months, we would spend 500000-$600,000. >> bill: they need is so great. you said the word, unprecedented, i agree with you. lisa, i want to get this website out. pittsburgh food bank.org, that can help the folks in western pennsylvania. lisa, thank you, we will keep an eye on you, thank you for coming in today. >> thanks so much. i >> bill: you bet. from a virus a stricken crew ship to the white house, just today, a california couple telling the president how covid-19 change their lives. a live interview with the goldmans on the north lawn ahead. next. >> president trump: do you think it brought you together, closer? >> absolutely. >> president trump: it brings you together. does that make any sense?

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>> bill: president trump meeting with cover 19 survivors. we follow this california couples journey a part of the infected diamond princess cruise ship in february. carl had covid-19, came down with a fever on the plane ride home. a couple of months under quarantine. his wife never tested positive. they have reached the white house. how are you doing? >> good afternoon. we are amazing. >> top of the deepest what we said. what was your message, carl? >> my messages was to stay positive right now and realize that everyone out there is going to survive this. we met a few don't, but this virus can be something that we can all get through. and i'm a perfect example of that.

>> bill: refresh my memory, how long were you in quarantine? >> 29 days, bill. >> bill: you look great. go back to 100%. jerry, why was it that you never tested positive? explain that. >> we don't know, but yesterday providence health and services took my blood. they are going start researching and figuring out why. and hopefully produce some type of immunization using my blood type. >> bill: okay. >> they have done the same thing with my blog, and hopefully they will use it to save a few lives out there, and also to come up with something that can hopefully cure this. >> bill: you have immunity now. >> exactly. >> bill: there's a lot of value in what you could provide researchers and other americans. >> without a doubt. it has been a joy for me to be able to give blood and we will know in about a week what the

results are from providence on both of jerry's blood my blood. >> bill: i don't know how you guys reflect on this now, but that cruise ship was a petri dish. we've seen that over and over again is ships all over the world. as you reflect back on that, what do you think about that experience? >> i feel blessed even now so my blood, but feeling very blessed now that we can come up with the results on it and why. does that mean all positives are okay and can get back onto the workforce? there are so many questions, hopefully it will answer it. >> i think this is the first time i've seen you together. >> yep. >> what's up with that? >> for all those having a rough time, we are very grateful that we are quarantined, even though i'm working, quarantined

together. quarantined together in your home is so much easier than quarantined by yourself in a very small room. >> bill: i was thinking about your experience together. what do you americans understand? the whole country is going through this. we met, it was difficult to forecast. speak to write, and that's why president trump and vice president pence wanted to show today that people can survive this. they were eight of us, spent most of the day together with them sharing our experiences in showing what life looks like on the other side of corona. >> bill: the other side of corona. if they take your temperature at the white house? >> several times. coming in, going into different rooms. we were in the eisenhower building and went over to the west wing, they took our temperature. >> they did another swab test. >> bill: did you have any

reservations flying across the country? you live in california. >> not at all, the airport was empty. i took pictures, it was surreal. >> bill: how is it walking into the west wing today? >> it was magical, totally magical spending the day with the president of the vice president has been an amazing experience for us. >> i have no words other than much gratitude and appreciation for the work they are doing for our country. i hope people see it. >> well done. nice to see you back together. from the diamond princess cruise ship to the white house. thank you both. the other side of corona sure looks better than the other stuff. >> bill: thank you for coming back and sharing your story. the president is meeting with health care executives in a

moment. we will see what he has to say about that. in the meantime, here monday through friday at 3:00 eastern. set your dvr and never miss a report. in the meantime, the stock market is looking ahead. and that's good. here's neil. see you tomorrow. >> neil: the president is gathering with health care executives at the white house. he met earlier today with half a dozen covid-19 survivors, many of whom say that they like the direction this is going and will do anything they can to help the country much like bill's guest here. anything to keep advancing. that is one thing that has been happening, one of the reasons as bill pointed out wall street was up today. things are clarity on this and maybe america is getting back to work in stages or not. we will group to read from the governor and the president on this. they do seem to be on the same page eventually getting us back