that's "the story" of tuesday april 14, 2020. we will see you back here tomorrow night, tucker carlson coming up right after this. have a good night, everybody, stay safe. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." an awful lot of americans are still dying of the of the coronavirus but nevertheless there are more and more signs that the worst could be behind this country rather than ahead. for the very latest we go down to the chief news correspondent chief trace gallagher. >> the total numbers of new cases and new deaths across the country get the most attention because of its sheer impact. those numbers for the most part are down and what the experts look at as a percentage of increase in new cases. on march 24 we had just under 9,000 total cases but that was almost a at 23% increase from

the day before meaning the total cases were doubling about every four days. yesterday, we had more than 25,000 cases but it was only a 4.6% increase meaning total cases would only double about every 26 days and that means we are on the downside of the curve. new york is also seeing a decrease in the cases, the number of new patients being admitted to hospitals and although the number of new deaths in new york is up a bit from yesterday, the governor remains very optimistic. watch. >> when you look at three days and you look at the overall curve, we think it's indicative. the three day averages down and that change nicu admissions is down. >> the bad news, the navy hospital ship mercy docked off the coast of los angeles now has seven crew members who have tested positive for coronavirus. they have been isolated and that comes after four crew members on board the u.s. and s comfort docked off of new york tested

positive. at the infections do not affect either ship's ability to accept new coronavirus patients. tucker? >> tucker: trace gallagher, thank you so much for that. the coronavirus shutdowns whether you believe they are necessary or not either way have amounted to a life-changing catastrophe. millions of people have lost their jobs and families have suffered from debt and uncertainty. many of them will likely come apart under the strain. in the name of protecting the public from a a deadly virus we have wound up destroying a huge number of people. it's one of the saddest things to happen in our country in a very long time. to them this is not a human tragedy, is an opportunity. as a rule it's the most mediocre people who are trying their hardest to exploit this moment. this case number one. in the long history of commonwealth of virginia it's

likely that no politician has ever amassed a record no to more embarrassing or less impressive than the current governor of that state, klan robes blackface. governor clan robes announced he would be signing a tall stack of highly partisan legislation mostly because he could. >> as we deal with the pandemic, my administration has also worked to deal with the 1291 bills passed by the general assembly. today, we announce that i have signed a landmark gun safety legislation as well as the women's reproductive health protection act. by tomorrow night i will have acted on all of the legislation before me. >> tucker: more than 1200 bills, gun-control, ripping down historic monuments. it was like an entire rundown from an msnbc we can show all signed into law. there is nothing the interest groups that control governor clan robes didn't get

in this, they got it all. it is at least one bill in that stock that ought to worry you even if you are lucky enough not to live in virginia. it so called election reforms. with his signature, clan robes eliminated all of virginia's voter i.d. laws. he signed legislation that allows them to vote up to 45 days before elections, including those who do it online. those are big changes, unprecedented changes. so called election reform is a coordinated effort and that should not surprise you. that always acts as one. first lady michelle obama is using this crisis to call for action for voting by mail. citizens could request ballots online and print them at home. no serious person at the national level has ever suggested hearing that before because of course it would instantly destroy the public's faith in election outcomes and

enhance our democracy. but if there was ever a time to sneak something this disruptive passed a beleaguered and disruptive population, this is it. racism. >> without voter oppression, stacy abrams would be the governor of georgia. >> the voter i.d. laws are every bit as racist as -- > -- >> when districts are drawn so that politicians can choose their vote, we can't say we live in a democracy. >> it was a voter suppression particularly of african-american community's that prevented us from having a governor say stacy abrams right now. >> 24 states introduced and actively seven bills to curtail the vote, and guess what, mostly

directed at "people of color." you see it. we have jim crow sneaking back in. no, i mean it. >> tucker: jim crow? voter suppression? the right to vote in peril? what century is this? if you get everything you just heard as a complete and utter provable lie then you win tonight's award. governor ideas are not racist, they are mandatory. you can't live here without one. if you don't have and i.d. you can't drive, you can't fly, you can't apply for a mortgage, get welfare or by alcohol or tobacco. you can't hold a legal job. pretty much everyone in america has a government i.d. that had no effect whatsoever on voter turnout for any subgroup they measured. whether it was by age, gender,

party or race. this is a complete and utter crock. everyone who says it knows that. voter i.d. laws stop voter fra fraud. that's not a guess. in california the democratic-controlled legislature started something called ballot harvesting were political activists are allowed to pick up ballots and then turn them into the state by hundreds of thousands. why do you get to do this? you can guess what happens next. in orange county, california, during the last election cycle, 62% of all ballots were absentee. a huge percentage of those ballots were late arrivals meaning they got to the state after election day. a quarter million of them were supposedly cast by inactive voters which means people who hadn't voted in the last four years. some say a significant number of those were fraudulent. it was a local dog park.

71 are registered to a starbucks. under california law, this is by design, this virtual no way to distant wish of fraudulent vote from a real one. when the smoke cleared from that election, the election lost every congressional seat in orange county which as you likely know as a longtime g.o.p. stronghold. people watching say the demographics have changed. no, the rules have changed. in other words the plan worked perfectly. the democrats would like to see that system come to your estate, to every state, and they are using the coronavirus pandemic to justify it. ideas are racist! expect to hear a lot more of that lie. and ridley at the very same time some of our leaders are requiring special papers, even blood tests just to go outside. >> can you imagine a time where americans carry certificates of immunity? >> you know, that's possible.

it's one of those things that we talk about when we want to make sure that we know who the vulnerable people are. this is something that's being discussed and i think it might actually have some merit under certain circumstances. >> tucker: it such a sad scary moment that you hate to think it's true but it's hard not to conclude. some people are using our fear for their own ends and fake election reform is not the only way that demagogues are leveraging this pandemic to put themselves in power to capture our institutions and erode our right. in michigan, gretchen whitmer, speaking of mediocre, is auditioning to be joe biden's vice president by traveling to their own homes. doesn't explain how that might help but does it anyway. in kentucky the governor sent goons to record the license plates of anyone attending an easter service. then in north carolina hundred people try to gather in raleigh against the state's ongoing

shutdown. police arrived and disbursed the protest, arrested one woman. just in case, the issued a statement. protesting is a nonessential activity." that's an actual quote from the authorities in raleigh. and they are wrong. this is america and we are allowed to disagree with what our leaders do however we like and we are allowed to express that disagreement in public. that's our birthright. they would like to leverage this crisis to take your birth right away, don't let them. >> victor davis hanson is joining us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. so you hate to believe that they are particularly people in power who would use the tragedy we are living through right now to add to their own power but it seems like that's happening. >> i think we should envision the epidemic a sort of a scab that was torn off and we saw wound that was there for a long

time but we did know how serious it was. what you are seeing in all of these instances that you cite is, why are they doing it? they are doing it because the agenda that we saw in the democratic primaries doesn't warrant 51% popular support. medicare for everybody and open borders, wealth tax, people didn't want it. that was without a crisis and in that case it was ballot harvesting. it's a way to get an agenda through in a time of crisis, otherwise would not warrant popular support. we always think the threat of civil liberties comes from the epaulets and the right wing nut, and princeton president woodrow wilson suspended the first amendment. it's a new deal, and

barack obama, remember that he weaponized the fbi, cia and he slicked the doj on the associated press journal. so it's always from the left because they feel that they can create heaven on earth, that they are most sophisticated and their cause is far more noble and it's any means necessary. this is the first election in my memory especially on the democratic side where there is real questions about whether the presidential nominee and the democratic party can fulfill his duties. in 1994, everybody knew roosevelt wouldn't be able to fill out that fourth term in harry truman became central to get rid of her henry wallace. everyone knows biden has problems but he's under intense competition. so the governor of virginia, new york and michigan are finding ways to grandstand and get national attention as a

decisive anti-trump test person. and there's going to be a lot of constitutional reckoning because the left has already established this neo-confederate idea that the fire died out like five federal law with sanctuary cities, 550 cities that nullified the u.s. immigration law. if for no other reason than to oppose donald trump. what is donald trump going to do in california if our governor says we are not doing this? he says federal property is yosemite. or what if he says to new york, interstate commerce requires wall street to be open? these are issues that go back to the civil war. apparently he wants to pursue it. >> tucker: once again, that didn't take long. thank you for having me.

>> tucker: so we are hearing suddenly, rising voices are telling us that because of this pandemic we need immediate nationwide mail in voting. the former first lady is demanding that among many others. what are the ramifications of that? if it's as simple as they are telling us, for he could have effects that we haven't thought through. judge, thank you so much for coming on. national male in voting, let's just make it easier to vote. let's stop erecting racist barriers to the franchise and let people do it by mail. what's wrong with that? >> well, everything is wrong with it, tucker. and i will tell you why. if you want to guarantee that every vote that is not counted israel it's got to be at a polling place or it's got to be in a situation where there is not this possibility of a mass absentee ballot or harvesting of ballots and i will tell you why. the problem with an absentee

ballot or any of these ballots which are then capable of being harvested, or one person gathers all bunch of them is that you have to get it on time. you have to get it returned to the post office and postmarked on time. you have to put very specific information on the envelope, maybe including your driver's license. if you get any of that wrong or a mistake in your driver's license number, it's invalidated. or if the clerk reads that license number improperly, that's invalidated. in 2018 nationally, 8.2% of absentee ballots were disqualified because they couldn't guarantee who had sent them, or there was a problem with them. historically absentee ballots have created a question as to who is a legitimate winner when an election is close. as we saw in 2018 in florida

with all of the ballots that just showed up in broward county in the year that ron desantis ran for governor, we saw what was admitted to as mismanagement or ineptitude. in many cases, it's more than that. it can be fraud or corruption. as a district attorney my office prosecuted cases involving absentee ballots where someone would say, i will get your ballot for you, i will fill it out, i will save you time. just sign it. then we found out that everyone that he had access to voted for the same person. we indicted him and went to trial on that case. we don't need in this country to eliminate voter i.d. which is essentially what this is. this is a ruse to eliminate voter i.d. as you said in your opening statement, if we have voter idea for everything from buying alcohol to getting on an airplane and getting into the

building, then especially when the government is willing to give you a voter i.d. for free. but essentially with an absentee ballot you can go into a senior citizens home, you can go into an old age home. or even worse think about the voter registration records and states that have not been purged. by that, i mean dead people have not been removed. you can request an absentee ballot in that name and have it mailed to a different address saying you've moved but you know the person is dead to come then you say you are back at old address and you go and vote. this is a nightmare especially in a presidential year. the one thing we don't need in 2020 is uncertainty as it relates to an election. and finally, no one really knows who fills out the ballots. no one knows under what

circumstances they were and that's the problem. >> tucker: they are willing to destroy the system in order to get power and that's pretty obvious at this point. judge, thank you for that information. interesting and scary. for months the idea that the coronavirus escaped from a laboratory and will han china was dismissed. as a dangerous conspiracy theory. now today, the state department cables make it clear that people who know a lot take that theory very seriously. we will tell you why.

♪ >> president trump: i am instructing the world health organization while a review is conducting to assess the world health organization's role in severely mismanaging and covering up the spread of the coronavirus. everyone knows what's going on there. >> tucker: the president a short time ago announcing a suspension of the funding that the united states gives the world health organization. and speaking of propaganda, the four months the notion that the coronavirus may have escaped from a lab, one of the two bio labs and will han was dismissed as a conspiracy theory.

but now, newly leaked state department cables are given the idea that more credence than ever. fox correspondent gillian turner has more on that story. >> for weeks now u.s. lawmakers have been arguing that china's government has been covering up the two origins of the coronavirus outbreak in wuhan. >> the china virus could have been a local health problem in wuhan. if the chinese party had been transparent and honest. >> beijing claims the virus originated at an animal market but now "the washington post" presents new evidence pointing elsewhere. to state department cables pointing about issues at a wuhan infectious diseases lab. and that represented a risk of a new star is like pandemic.

those cables note the lab had efficiency to operate safely which is something that tom cotton talked about several days ago. >> it's entirely possible that they were operating good and scientific reasons and those laboratories but they had bad safety practices. >> a new report estimates that the a number of cases inside china is actually closer to 2.9 million cases as opposed to the 83,000 the beijing is claiming. outside of wuhan city and hubei province, cases are now low by a factor of 100 or more. the state department is not confirming the existence of these cables let alone commenting on their contents, but a few days ago peter navarro tells us he believes that one of the reasons the chinese government continues to cover up case numbers during the early days of the outbreak is so they could buy time to purchase and

stockpile ppe and medical equipment from all around the world. tucker? >> tucker: seems likely. thanks so much for that report. so the lab in wuhan was unsafe and it was obvious to americans visiting there two years ago. because of the practices they are the chinese may have unleashed a global pandemic on the rest of us. here's something remarkable and upsetting. the work and that lab including its research into disease carrying baths was funded in part by you. taxpayers to the national institutes of health. hard to believe that's true but it is. congressman matt gaetz represents florida and he joins us tonight. that's one of those stories, if you had said that out loud a week ago i might have just missed you but it's true. how did that happen? >> i'm against chinese research in our country, but the nih

gives a $3.7 million grant to the wuhan institute of virology and they then advertise that they need coronavirus researchers and following that coronavirus erupts in wuhan. what's troubling to me is either conspicuously or miraculously the wuhan institute of virology is able to sequence a virus on january 2nd. china doesn't admit to the virus existing until january 9th and then the wuhan institute of virology does not release this important scientific information to the world until january 12th. so i'd best americans are finding people who are lying to us and at worst, we are funding people who we knew had trouble handling pathogens and birthed a monster virus onto the world. >> tucker: by the way, china is about to eclipse us in terms of the size of its economy. if it hasn't already, and it seems like it might have. either way, why are we sending any money to china for any purpose?

>> there is a far too cozy relationship between u.s. research and chinese research because there are some institutions in our country who realized the short-term benefits of chinese cash. but that doesn't excuse our government and what should really troubled viewers as this is an active grant, not something of yesteryear. i called on secretary aids are to immediately halt this grant to the wuhan institute of virology. they have not been honest and worse they've been negligent to the point of many deaths throughout the world. >> tucker: this will live on for all time as a metaphor for our incompetence and self-loathing. it looks like there is evidence that this virus escaped from the lab. we don't know that that happen but that's crazy substitution. could someone end of the funding to the virology? >> i think secretary as are could do it with the stroke of a pin and certainly it's

consistent with the fantastic news that president trump gave us today, that the united states will no longer be a patsy for the america last organizations like w.h.o. and wto. we've been taken advantage of in those globalist infrastructures for far too long under both republicans and democrats. president trump gives us the chance to liberate ourselves from this and put our people, our health and our economy first. >> tucker: that would be nice. congressman gaetz, thanks for coming on, we appreciate it. so there's no question that coronavirus is deadly. you may know someone who's already passed from it. the question is over large populations, how deadly is it? that's an important question to answer. tonight, there are promising signs that the virus is more widespread and less dangerous than we initially feared. we will walk you through some numbers on that. but first, a look at new york right now courtesy of our own tom rita.

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>> tucker: at one of the scariest things about the wuhan coronavirus and one of the many reasons that all of us have long

been so afraid of it is how little we know about it. ebola, colorado, obviously those are dangerous diseases and have killed millions, but on the whole fundamentally anyway, we know how easily they spread and how deadly they are. this disease by contrast is entirely new. it's literally a novel coronavirus. early accounts said the mystery illness coming from central china could be transmitted far more easily than the flu and the death rate was are markedly high. some reports suggested it could kill two, three, five, even 8% of all those who got it. worst-case scenario predicted millions and millions of people would die. of the public was horrified and still are. but how afraid should they be? many people are still dying in this pandemic including here in united states. beyond that fact we still don't have the numbers we need to fully understand what's happening around us. too few people have been tested. and yet there are some

suggestions of good news and we want to bring them to you. between march 22nd and april 4th a total of 215 pregnant women delivered babies at new york presbyterian hospital. every single one of these women was screened for the coronavirus. it turned out that 33 of them had it, that's more than 15% of the total group. of the infected, 29 of them come about 88% of them had wow were totally asymptomatic. so think about what that might mean if we extrapolate it citywide. as of april 4th new york has more than 60,000 of the confirmed cases of the coronavirus and a little over 2200 deaths. if more than 15% of new york's population was infected, that would suggest a total of 1.3 million cases in new york with only about 150,000 of them showing symptoms. in other words the virus would be far more widespread than we expected it to be but also far less deadly than we expected. the actual death rate would not be three or 4%, it would be

closer to .2%. there would be great. we don't know for certain that's the case, 215 people is a small sample and in this specific case it's not a representative sample. hospitals are major factors for transmission of the coronavirus and pregnant woman spend a lot of time in hospitals. they are also usually younger and healthier than other people so it's possible they exhibit less symptoms. on the other hand if this is not the only studies that suggest these trends. in scotland the researchers tested 500 people three weeks into the outbreak there and more than 1% tested positive for antibodies to coronavirus. that's 12 times greater than the confirmed caseload in that country at that time. 12 times more. in denmark a little over a month into the outbreak only .1% of the population was infected according to official numbers. and yet, a screening of 1500 people found that 2.7% actually had antibody is. that would mean the true death

rate from coronavirus there might be 127th as high as they thought it was. in meanwhile in germany the official death rate from coronavirus stands today at 2.5%, but the horrifying number, and it may be real. on the other hand in the town of gang gelt where large-scale random testing has been performed the death rate was found to be just .37%. that's us seventh of the original. all of this is encouraging news. if the infection is more widespread than we thought then by definition that means the virus is less deadly. that would mean our burden on the health care system would be lower than we expected it to be and we are seeing that. it may also mean that coronavirus may be closer than we knew to running its course. that would mean a lot of people had been affected and recovered without even knowing it and those people could pause and let relief sweep over them and they get back to their lives. above all, if these trends hold

it would mean that the rest of us could be slightly less terrified going forward. yes, it's awful. yes people are dying and they will continue to die here in the u.s. but it may not be quite the plague that we thought it was. that could give us some perspective. most of us want all of that badly. but do our leaders want that? sometimes when you watch them you begin to suspect they are secretly enjoying our fear. dr. jade that if tori is a stanford professor is been studying the death rate. doctor, thanks so much for coming on. what are you concluding about the real death wer rate from ths virus? >> i think based on the evidence that we've seen so far it's actually lower than the initial estimates. the world health organization put an estimate out there, and i think it's initially 3.4%. it's very unlikely that it's anywhere near that, it's more

likely much closer to the death rate then you see her case. the question is we don't have the vaccine so in that sense it's more deadly and more widespread than the flu. it overwhelms hospital systems where the flu doesn't but i don't think it's as deadly as people thought. >> tucker: i'd know it's very hard to come up with any kind of firm numbers in the absence of widespread testing, but do you think it's likely that there are large numbers of americans who have been infected, recovered and didn't know it? >> i believe that is true. we are going to start to know that very soon. i've been working on studies with some colleagues in of mine and also a large nationwide study working with major league baseball employees, not just athletes but all the employees. very soon we are going to have a much more accurate understanding of how widespread this is. as you said in your introduction

we also know much better and how deadly it actually is. evidence around the world is flowing in and it really seems like there are many, many cases of the coronavirus that we haven't identified. many orders of magnitude and more people have been affected then we realize and as you rightly pointed out that means that the death rate is actually lower than people realize. also by orders of magnitude. >> tucker: it's of one of the destructive byproducts of this pandemic is fear which is itself clearly hurting people. you are an american in addition to a researcher, and based on the research you'v are you mored or less afraid than when you begin? >> i'm less afraid than when i began. i've heard so many stories of people who couldn't hug their

grandkids, and i think really the true death rate is one in a thousand, would you not tell your wife? so i'm hoping that once we get numbers in place but it will quell the fear this out there. >> tucker: that's one of the most reassuring things i've heard in a long time. doctor, truly. thank you for coming on tonight. a pastor in virginia recently passed away, so "the washington post" sees an opportunity to mock him and his death. plus the l.a. sheriff's warning residents of a crime wave after he deliberately released

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♪ >> tucker: well when the founder of isis was killed in an air strike launch from washington, the local newspaper "the washington post" eulogized him as a "austere religious scholar. so if that's their opinion of mass murdering islamic zealots, what are they think of christians in our nation? bishop gerald glenn with the founder of new deliverance evangelistic church into virginia. as a coronavirus spread he urges parishioners not to be afraid of. he vowed to keep preaching and called it essential, which it is

and he died of coronavirus over easter weekend. pastor dies of code 19. you could hear the chuckles in the background and that tells you where they are. that tells you everything about them. you are seeing some politicians use a coronavirus tragedy to enable voter fraud and trample on freedom of expression, speech and conscience. but they are also advancing their bizarre agenda on "law & order," one not designed to degrade society. in washington county at the sheriff released thousands of prisoners ahead of coronavirus. now he's admitting that residents should brace for a wave of crime. >> we are faced with a choice. we left the jail system fully populated and overpopulated than the pandemic is a lot easier to sweep to the jail system and jeopardize everyone. what's going to happen is some of them will not go back to

court. they will end up being -- they will go on a warrant so to speak or failure to appeal. appear. those who -- we are adding to the mix. it's uncharted territory. >> tucker: did you hear that? some of them may not back to court. bill is here with us tonight. >> tucker, good evening. when this decision came down it raised a heck of a lot of eyebrows here in l.a. county and with the sheriff decided to do was release 25% of the entire inmate population here in l.a. county which equates to about 4,300 inmates. that's a heck of a lot of inmates, and the reason why l.a. county has a because jail system and the entire country going into this pandemic, we would have about 17,000 inmates in county jail on any given day. the sheriff took a lot of heat and criticism from the public

when he made the decision because of the same time he had also tried closing down all of our local gun store ohmic stores. he had listed them as nonessential businesses. that left people on the street deprived of their ability to buy a gun. the sheriffs says before this was ever a pandemic in late february, he made this decision. he began releasing inmates groups of five at a time and that is because it's so overcrowded in the jail system he wanted to be ahead of the curve. if one inmate were to get a positive test it would potentially spread to not only the other inmates but two of the sheriff's deputies as well. he has over 200 deputies in quarantined right now, so he said it's a good thing that he was able to get more than 4,000 inmates out of the jail. he said he is only releasing nonviolent inmates. people with a low level domain to misdemeanors like traffic

crimes and property crimes. he said they're still 1200 people accused of murder in the jail but he says overall this will be a controversial decision. he things overall it's been working. there is 17,000 inmates in county jail going into this as of yesterday when i talked to him and only 11 of them have tested positive so far. as he said in the interview, this is uncharted territory. he said he got pressure from the aclu and other social activist groups two weeks after he made the decision. so he said of these inmates act up or don't show up for court or start committing crimes again that's going to look bad for that social justice agenda and groups like aclu are going to have to rethink what they are doing. l.a. county is the first to do this but up in washington they are doing the same thing. there was a prison riot, a jail riot and the prisoners were upset about the virus in there. the governor says he's now going to release some of those inmates.

>> tucker: the aclu has to rethink their position, that made me laugh. good to see you tonight. well, if you were watching last night you saw dr. siegel get tested live on the show for the coronavirus. thank heaven he is negative but he's back tonight to fill us in on another promising a test. we will be right back. ♪ at papa john's, we want you to know that from our 450-degree oven, to box, to you, it's our policy that your pizza is never touched once it comes out of the oven. and we're taking extra steps, like no contact delivery, to ensure it.

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>> it's negative, and i want to tell everyone out there who was worried they were in contact with people with cova 19, this is where the future has to be. boy, do i feel great. >> that was our own dr. marc siegel getting tested for the virus live on the show last night, he tested negative, thank heavens but will also get a test for coronavirus antibodies and will get a result for that in a few seconds and the results of a test that could change everything for health care workers is stephen hawn recently explained. >> you can use saliva rather than the swab in the nose. it's more comfortable for the patient. obviously can be repeated multiple times. it is actually safer for the health care provider in terms of collection. >> dr. marc siegel joins us now with those developments. great to see you tonight healt healthy. >> tucker, i feel healthy and i

want to tell you what you just showed in terms of that saliva test is the next step because you saw the doctor here with me last night and he was using a nasal swab but notice he had protective clothing on. the saliva test coming from workers in new jersey at the human genetics institute is something you could self administer. you spit into a cup and then you handed over to the health care worker and gets it tested with rapid testing, thousands and thousands are going to be done down there in this institute and that's the next step and then we can keep that protective clothing rippin on. he drew my blood after i was off-camera and he didn't antibody test. you know why? because i want to also tell my viewers i have been in contact with a lot of players who were positive and i was concerned. had to buy know what i am not in that asymptomatic group? here's the answer come antibodies negative which just goes to show you, you can think

you have it, everybody thinks they have it and may actually not have it but these antibody tests have to be perfected and right now, there's about 90 different companies making them. distinguishes for this particular virus but when dr. redfield said to me they're looking very carefully to see which antibody tests are the best and then they will help us to know are we getting over it? did we have it, and maybe we are on the road to immunity. that's the goal here. >> so give us the 10-second answer and i asked this every night, how long until people watching tonight can get their hands on one of these tests do you think? >> i think it's going to be a matter of a couple of weeks. they're promising it, i am certain it's going to be over the next few weeks. we needed to separate out who's been exposed, who has in and may be cured. we will know in a couple of weeks. >> good, that is helpful.

dr. siegel, congratulations again. >> changes the game. >> see you tomorrow, thanks. a primary note mother governor for the state of new jersey is coming on tomorrow night, hope you will join us then. have a great evening, sean hannity right now. >> sean: welcome to hannity. tonight, more positive statistics for this country's fight against cova 19 plus more bold action from the president this time against the china centric world health organization. we have an update and will break down the details for you. also mike pompeo fascinating information that they have released from the state department. also with just 203 days until election day and you the people are the ultimate jury, quid pro quo joe ever confused one finally got the endorsements he has anxiously been waiting for. after every