life. thank you for joining us, and don't forget we have story time today at 3:30 p.m. eastern. i will see you on "the five" as well. in the meantime, hill here is a bill hemmer. >> bill: dana, thank you. new allegations against china as a organization that looks over global health fires back at the white house. at this hour here is where we stand. president trump is speaking with business leaders across america about when to reopen the economy. details on that conversation in a moment. and the world health organization respondent for the first time since president trump ordered a freeze on u.s. funding in the middle of this pandemic. >> we regret the decision of the president of the united states to order a hold in funding to the world health organization.

>> bill: he accuses them of -- there's more than a million worldwide with more than 27,000 americans dead. we report from this hour on the north lawn at the white house and john roberts is there. >> good afternoon to you. a little bit of breaking news, i'm told by sources that the treasury department that the fund for the small business association loans, the so-called paycheck protection loans will probably run out by the close of business today. congress has been deadlocked on putting more money into it. i asked the president about it yesterday on what could be done in the negotiations continue. secretary mnuchin has been meeting with the minority leader, but in law something breaks loose, the fund will run out of money by the end of the day. a lot of americans have been getting those $1200 economic impact payments by direct deposit. when the paper check version of

that comes out either the end of this week or beginning of next, as far as we know it's unprecedented for a president to put his name on a check from the irs. but the white house wants americans to know that this is an issue that the president has been pushing for and it is one that brought the house of criticism from democrats today. >> i wish it were the only ego trip and his desires and needs. >> publicize the tax rebates is nothing new. the obama administration was criticized for spending some $1.3 million on road signs touting projects that were a result of the stimulus package. back in 2001, the bush irs sent taxpayers a letter saying this tax rebate is brought to you by president bush and the

republican. both of those things were roundly criticized. talking to members of the sunni advisory board, the great american revival group on the agenda today because with banking, financial services, food and beverage and hospitality, tech telecommute patience, transportation and industry groups. and here's what he said about the folks he was going to be talking today last night. i think the names that are best and smartest and brightest and they will give you some ideas. the united states will cut off funding to the world health organization, the president critical of the world health

organization response. that was also what he called cover up in the wake of the brewing outbreak and the epidemic in china. the president saying the world health organization rejected ideas about travel bands from china and elsewhere around the world as well as also buying into china's claim that there was no human to human transmission. here's what dr. deborah birx said about it earlier. >> i think once this is over, we will be able to look back and see, did china and w.h.o. say and do anything to alert the rest of the world to the nuances of this virus? and i want to bring in ian bremmer, welcome to our program here. two things that i'm going to get

to, the world health organization. the white house says it wants accountability and a lot of people can agree to that. >> i think, you are focusing on who has the most accountability in a different direction. bill gates, i think everyone can see and those of in the united states, and he came out strongly last night saying, i consider it a damaged and political organization. they certainly have been carrying water for beijing they've done a fantastic job in responding to the crisis and we can't work with those doctors

for w.h.o. and can't work with the data in the w.h.o. also accepted the chinese early data and assure there was more human to human transition. i think that undermines the legitimacy. but that also -- do we need a fight for the pandemic, the answer is no. but does trump want to fight? we can actually spend some time in congress for example reviewing the world health organization and pointing fingers at them and the chinese, covering up the virus in the early days during an election. i certainly understand why politically that's very advantageous for the sitting president. >> bill: i think congress will get to that at some point, perhaps sooner rather than later. i keep repeating the same thing in my own mind. whether it's china, the world

health organization, or anthony fauci in late january or the president or bill de blasio or andrew cuomo, at different times in different dates they've all set different names. but then all roads still lead back to wuhan. beijing was silent for six days back in january and those six days lead to a deadly outcome. >> we had an internal chinese government report that got leaked and reported on just today. there is no question in my mind that the original sin for this pandemic is for me on the chinese shoulders. there's no question. while they were covering up their knowledge of human to human transmission people were leaving wuhan, business as usu

usual. almost 500,000 leading to china through parts around the world. but it would be a mistake to say that that means nothing has been done wrong by the american government sense, but we know that every government in the world aside from china didn't know. and yet the south koreans, the taiwanese, the germans, new zealand, canada, their responses have been radically more effective than the american response. >> bill: south koreans voted today. 40 million south koreans voted today with masks and gloves, so it can be done. en, it's great to have you back. we will talk again soon. in the meantime on the financial front john roberts mentioned there is concern the small business relief program could run out of money by the end of this week and that staggering. 1.4 million loans have been approved with more than

$300 billion, which means you got about $50 billion left in them. and what do you think america is going to need? >> the program is popular and successful, and there were a few speed bumps along the way. and they are keeping workers employed and if you want those jobs to be there and businesses to be there, all it takes is we need to top off that account. it's a very simple vote in the united states senate. as of right now the democrats are objecting to it as has been their custom into trying to get a bunch of other stuff through this. as of right now we have to be focused on the crisis. the crisis at hand is the ppp fund is running out of money and

it needs to simply increase that funding authority and keep those loans going up to our small businesses and keep workers employed. >> bill: does this include phase four? >> i think at some point it will be phase four but this is a simple fix. you simply add $250 to the ppp program, and the irony about all that is it is a hugely bipartisan program, one that both republicans and democrats were involved in designing. and it's working effectively. they are trying to hold it hostage. as soon nancy pelosi shows up you've got a list of demands. it takes a simple vote, unanimous consent vote and keep those loans going out to small

business. >> bill: probably knew that by friday, the clock is running on that. you probably heard the conversation about china and world health organization and i know you've been following that back and forth. nancy pelosi put out the statement. we can only be successful in defeating this global pandemic, and undermining the heroes at the front line at great risk to the lives and livelihood of americans and people around the world. i know in a sense this is a political back and forth but what is your view on that from south dakota's today? >> of the world health organization needs accountability. that's the view and should be everybody's view and there were lots of decisions made based on, questionable information and based on lack of transparency from china when this thing took off in the first place. i think the world health organization needs to answer those hard questions and congress would be right to

scrutinize where american dollars are being spent and whether or not they are being used effectively and in the initial phases of this is this thing broke out and this became a pandemic, what role if any did the world health organization play along with china and the world not knowing about this sooner. i think those are legitimate, it's a legitimate inquiry and that's a president's right to demand accountability. >> bill: thank you for your time senator. in the meantime, protesters on the streets in michigan's capital city, did you see this play out? in defiance of the governor's shelter in place order statewide to come it will tell you what this is about in a moment. the governor of california laying out what it will take to reopen his state and what the new normal just might look like. saturdays happen. pain happens. aleve it.

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consider a variety of factors till they hit certain benchmarks. he also said reopening is that a switch but a demurrer depending on the data. your waiter is wearing a mask, kids go to school in shifts, they eat alone, no rally, p/e or football. that would be the new normal for a long time. >> what will the new normal look like? normal it will not be. that's herd immunity, and we have a vaccine. >> herd immunity is when the virus infects so many in the country, and vaccines we are told could take 18 months. they still consider number one, the ability to test and trace new infections, isolate and quarantine newly infected people. protect the old and the homele

homeless, and finally are robust system should the virus reemer reemerge. she laid out similar benchmarks but was more emphatic, unlike newsom who suggested some cities could lift the lock down than others. >> i think you'll see a higher level of coordination and alignment in terms of how we take actions but is our framework going to look the same as california's framework? absolutely not. >> the other headline, crowds, conference, stadiums, football, spring or summer, not in the cards. >> we need it, right? they can't stay away forever. at least 30 grocery store workers have died from the coronavirus according to a union that represents about a million workers nationwide. many stores but precautions and lace to try to keep staff safe. workers say many customers are

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transform our country. >> bill: and so there it is, elizabeth warren is now on board endorsing joe biden and with the endorsement yesterday they roll out unity. martha, nice to see you. you compare it to the rnc from 2016, they got there ducks in a row. mike emanuel is reporting something very similar at the moment. how do you see it behind missing far? >> it looks like over and over democrats returning to president obama to try to get him involved, and he didn't come out and do anything until the fall.

the way it's presented is that president obama in his endorsement which was lengthy and very serious endorsement, he's presented joe biden as the standard bearer democratic ideals. and if joe biden was the symbol of the direction it believes, then he's backing him now. they are all through this process have been very quite like frank and honest about what he saw joe biden's shortcomings and perhaps inability to go the distance in this race. so clearly, this is a decision on the obama team as part and they need to support him in any way they can. >> bill: mike emanuel was reporting a moment ago, just

reading off an email. barack obama had for long conversations with bernie sanders beginning in late march. it includes the source telling fox that those efforts to ease sanders out of the race played a significant role in his decision to end the campaign and endorse biden. that's a campaign or convention, and -- >> let me just say quickly, this is a replay of 2016, that sort of kid gloves approach with bernie sanders being very careful with how you deal with the people who support him. we saw the same thing with hillary clinton and we remember all of those folks standing up the convention into turning their fax on her. >> this "wall street journal" piece is called small business loan snafus. congress knows they have to go back to the well here to help these people out and that is

hopefully something that can manage by the end of this week. the piece concludes, in their words, it's near, can simply mandate for business. matter how much money congress pumps out i think that's very true. the question then ultimately goes to how much money is washington willing to go and for how long? this was the mass among millions and millions of americans and now the people who governed them have to help them find a way o out. >> you know what, bill? i think we are going to have a long. obviously a very difficult economic distress. you cannot help but look at the numbers that caused it and the models which were incorrect that really were one of the biggest push points to shut down the united states economy. it's quite possible that you are going to end up with numbers of fatalities in this covid-19 tragedy of those that have been

affected that will be south of the numbers in the 2018 flu season. remember, the loss of 61,000 people in the flu season was after vaccinations. after vaccinations, that's the number that were lost in america. when you reevaluate this economic decision in this total shutdown, the ramifications of that will be something that you deal with long after the mourning process of those who are locked into it. those small businesses are hurting. you look at it like the manicure places, on and on, hair salons and everything, the whole bit. they are struggling so mightily and we certainly hope that they can get open soon and that's really the key. opening the country back up is the key. that's what will save these companies. >> bill: just listening to gavin newsom, you praise all the

businessmen and corporate leaders and men and women across the country trying to help with that, my feeling is that the president is trying to get the democratic governors to buy into this. you see it split up across the eastern part of the country and you will figure it out across the states that about one another. if you were to get prominent democratic governors to join that task force, everyone has skin in the game. everybody buys in and you can tell the american people we will do this a little bit at a time. we will see how it goes or we will measure our progress sometimes week by week or even day by day. i thought that was a best course, probably the wisest course of action and i don't think it's too late to go that route. >> certainly the involvement of bipartisan governors would be significant and i think that's absolutely the best way to move forward. the bottom line is what all of the state governors need and want us to get back open.

everybody across the country wants that and it's just to keep kicking the tires of these notions. does it make more sense to ask people who are in the vulnerable groups to lock down for a while longer to protect those parts of the population and to begin to reopen some of these businesses? because no patchwork of government funding in the end is going to save this economy. the only thing that, republican governors know that and the more bipartisan this commitment to do so i in a responsible beat way n be better for the people. >> bill: we will see you tonight. i'm in the meantime there's a new report seeing chinese officials hid information about the looming pandemic for six long and critical days. so how much of an global impact that secrecy have? and at new york's governor with a bold new move regarding those

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>> i'm going to issue an executive order that says all people in public must have a mask or knows covering, mouth and nose covering and they must wear it in the situation where you cannot or are not maintaining social distance. >> bill: that was one of the headlines from the governor of new york, ordering people of new york to start wearing face coverings in new york in public is starting this week when they cannot practice social distancing. meanwhile, we have been reporting on this new report from the ap that says chinese officials have said critical information for six days about the likelihood of a pandemic. doctor, nice to see you again. i want to get to reopening the economy in a moment but what was your consideration when you saw

that report from the ap about those six critical days and january? >> in some ways it's not surprising. we know the information coming out of china -- first of all there was suppression of a lot of data back in december and then i think in january there was a lot of confusion. and frankly deception about what the state of the infection was in china. it did because all of us to lose a little ground. of course even, i think by mid-to-late january we had a pretty good sense that there was a pandemic coming. >> bill: can you say how things could have been differe different? as much as it would have been helpful, we still have the time

we needed to get ready and to respond to this pandemic. i think it's easy to blame china and i do blame china for part of this but i think part of it is also one of us. even a week later we have still had time to get ready and we worse slow to respond to this pandemic. >> bill: how about how and when to reopen her car, you've given that a lot of thought, what are your answers to those questions? >> the number one issue in my mind is how do we reopen in a way that lets us stay open what we see is substantially declining case rates. right now we are flattening the curve which is good but we have to keep going. we have to have a pretty broad testing infrastructure and then we have to make sure our hospitals are ready because we

will see surges in cases. i think one will be really hard for almost any state in the country to do. as we go further into may, may 15th and june 1st, i think many places will be ready not just to open but to stay open for a good period of time. >> bill: i hope that's the case, sooner rather than later. doctor, always good to have you on. thank you and come back soon. we first brought you the story yesterday, a drive-through in new jersey as a first to offer the saliva test which is safer, easier and faster than a nasal swab. this is the first site. the professors developed at there. one of the researchers on the program yesterday saying the new test is as simple as spitting into a tuba so it is that easy. this, however is not easy. scrambling to reopen their doors.

the president sending a letter that there is a real crisis in the restaurant industry. britney ruby miller is the president of the jeff miller culinary entertainment group. 20% of the workforce, it's a service industry economy. what do you need now? i knew your group has gotten along through the government and that's good news for you and others. was i going to take to keep your company afloat? >> well we are going to have to sit back down i think. and thank you so much for having me. that's greatly appreciated, there would be some more consideration. to start there is a list of

issues in my collective team we have a brilliant group of restaurant tours, but we have really dwindled us down to what we believe the big ask is, and the loan maturity would go with two years because that's completely unrealistic. >> bill: you know, high-end steak house, this is what we are trying to figure out through this. the government has given you money to make sure that your employees have a job as sort of a bridge loan to get you through the period of a month or two months and you are suggesting it should be much longer beyond that. how do we know what the right number is britney?

>> just so everybody understands, the clock starts ticking ten days after the close. we don't have restaurants open. so for the next eight weeks we have to basically suck up all the money by that eigh eight ane don't know what the new normal is that you are talking about. we do not know. and when you think about how critical we are a food supply chain and we are talking about grocery workers. then you look at smithfield and you see it the burden on groceries when you don't support restaurants, and that's 51%. we talk about the domestic airline business which is very important into the economy, we are essential.

we will go back, and the conversations that we have had our senators who really -- we talk to restaurant hopes, they are doing and a+ job. here's what i understand. you don't know when the demands are going to come back. is it 50% full or more or less than that? i get that. this is the right answer. did >> we are running forecast right now that our scenarios based upon 50 or 75% of your revenue decreasing and so everybody knows the margins in the restaurant industry aren't great. so when you go from a very high volume and for us, i check average, and you cut that in

half, that dog won't hunt. it certainly doesn't make sense for the forgiveness to be eight weeks. we need funds, we need capital. the number one reason why restaurants fail when they open under normal circumstances is because they are undercapitalized. we need capital to keep our industry, they keep them afloat. >> we will see what gets done in time. i know you've been touching the senator rob portman. britney, thank you for your time and good luck to you and everyone else working for you. meanwhile, an energy company is bringing new life to oil ventilators, provided power to some essential services like hospitals. also some celebrities like this guy. tom brady stepping up to help those in need and what his contribution has been as of today, next.

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>> bill: these american celebrity's offering up a once-in-a-lifetime experience to feed americans affected by the pandemic. a part of the fund-raiser called the "all in challenge" already pulling in $4 million. prizes include justin bieber in

your home singing "one less lonely girl." also an opportunity to be in kevin hart's next movie and tickets to tom brady is a first game as a tampa bay buccaneers along with a dinner and private workout with brady, is a game worn jersey and cleats. lots of people a jump on that, too. a company in california has refurbished more than 1100 ventilators. bloom energy using primarily fuel cells. they also provide energy to essential services like hospitals and grocery stores. ceo of bloom energy, nice to see you today. we do great american things, and tell us what you are up to. >> the whole coronavirus thing, and american innovation needs to stand out. we are really proud and happy to answer the calling and what we

do for core business is, we use american inventive technology manufactured here in america to produce clean and reliable power using natural gas. we don't burn the gas but we produce very clean power. so obviously hospitals and grocery stores that cannot afford, and they use that technology to provide 24/7 reliable power. now this pop-up hospital is coming up, they require very quick power that also has to be easy to breathe in terms of the air quality. two hospitals in northern california within a matter of a week from the time we were asked to go forward and we have put together pop-up power that comes faster than the pop up tents in the hospitals and we are ready to power them.

you talked about the ventilators and i'm happy to answer the second one if you have any questions. >> bill: the ventilator is very interesting. now you are taking these old ventilators on the west coast and also supplying some on the east coast. how great is the need now or have we found ourselves on the backside of that curve in terms of necessary or required ventilators? >> so at the time that we started working this two weeks ago there was a dire need based on the predictions for the ventilators. it is what i can tell you. when those ventilators came from us two saturdays ago, it was shipped to us in the morning on saturday. and we had pleas from the hospitals saying, can you get it back to us monday morning? this is close t to 2100 ventilators that we had to ship

back to los angeles. so our team is very similar to the medical team doing god's work, i will say our manufacturing team was doing god's work that night. basically told us, promised the governor we will get it back first thing on monday morning and will stay up all night and worked on this. we got that entire batch of ventilators back to the hospital and up and working. >> bill: that is great. what do you do next? >> is a fabulous opportunity. we are already working on ventilator 2.0 at stanford and here's the twist. the emerging nations are going to have this need because the they are going to come out there a little bit later. however those countries cannot afford to get into the food fight with other countries, here are the expensive ventilators from other countries. working with stanford, if we split with no compromise and no

cross-contamination, one ventilator for four patients, we applied for fda approval and we hope we get that quickly and then we can offer the solution as an american showcase. >> bill: you can help people all over the world with that idea. terrific stuff. thank you for your time today and my best to you and the people who work at bloom energy. protesters in michigan clogging up the streets in the state capital is the governor faces backlash over the over the stay-at-home order. she says it's about saving lives and we are on the ground in lansing to bring you that story, next. ♪ [squawks] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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what happened was to mark >> well, it is still going on. this thing started at around 11:00 this morning. it shows no sign of stopping. they wanted to clog the streets, and that's what they're doing. they are sending a message that they don't agree with her stay at order. they say it goes too far, takes away their rights and in some cases is too arbitrary. for example, you could go on a sailboat or canoe, but not on a motorboat. you can't go to a second home if you live in the state, but someone out of the state can drive to their second home in michigan. you could buy my groceries and medicine, but there are certain areas of the store that have to remain closed such as the parts of the store that sell paint, carpet, and flooring, and furniture. many of the people i spoke to say that there are substitute provisions and the governor did this for her own political

advantage. >> i can't go between those houses. you can't buy macpaint, you can't buy on for derisory. i think she is doing it so she can get national press like this and to be joe biden's vice presidential candidate. i don't know what other reason. it is just crazy. >> the governor says she understands people are frustrated and angry. she also says she supports their right to protest like this. she hopes they do it in a way where they practiced social distancing and don't jeopardize their health or the health of the first responders. a lot of the people i talked to said they are okay with the stay-at-home order, but they think it shouldn't be one-size-fits-all. there are a lot more cases in detroit. >> bill: that's unbelievable. it is loud. grady trimble, lansing, michigan. we will see how it unfolds they are. we mention the governor. we will see if she's got more

reaction throughout the afternoon and evening. set your dvr and never miss a report. we will see how he does in the moment. "your world" follows. off we go. catch you tomorrow. >> neil: all right, bill, thank you very, very much. we are following developments very, very closely. we will be hearing from the governor right now. her even tougher stay-at-home policy has invited this wrath. there is a traffic jam of people saying, we understand stay-at-home, but this is beyond crazy. the governor taking a number of stringent measures to demand that residents quit moving between homes, quit crossing the street to go to other friends. don't use motorboats, use a canoe. it got to be so surreal for these people that whether you are on the left or right, a