♪ >> sean: all right, that's all the time we have left this evening, we will never be the media mob. ever we seek the truth, we will never stop. keep your family safe, let not your heart be troubled. laura ingraham -- by the way, i saw some idiot writing "we need to put a news person in lore's lot." no, laura has record ratings, a loyal audience and -- >> laura: by the way -- wait, i have a question. >> sean: we are going out together. you, me and tucker. >> laura: it now it's three musketeers. there was a time where it's not prime time -- prime time wasn't always this friendly, hannity, let me say but we actually really like each other here. >> sean: i'm like i'm reading this tonight and i don't have any beef with the writers. i'm allowed to have an opinion, but i've got one idiot over "the washington post" wants me dead. he's a stalker. every second of every day --

>> laura: guess what? >> sean: than you've got humpty dumpty the stocker, then you've got this stalker, we got stalkers everywhere. >> laura: justice thomas once said to me when people are talking smack about you it's usually like 90% of it is based in jealousy. let's just leave it right there. hannity, fantastic show tonight. >> sean: laura goes, i go, we all go out together. >> laura: sounds good. i will be in the trenches with you any day, hannity, no problem. thanks so much, sean. i'm laura ingraham, this is the ingraham angle from washington tonight. president trump is not hinting that an even earlier partial reopening of the country is in the offing. ben carson will tell us what that might look like. plus, fox news has learned some details about what china has been hiding about how this coronavirus thing really started. senator josh hawley has been a leader on the china issue from the start and now he wants to hold them accountable. he's going to tell us how that

would go down. and why is it that nancy pelosi doesn't have time to approve small business relief, but she somehow has time for late-night comedians? raymond arroyo has that and more in seen and unseen. but first, america and shut down, day 30, if you can believe it. the american death toll surpasses 30,000 people tonight, but even with that staggering number and all the loss of life that comes along with it, there was some good news today. >> it looks like we are headed absolutely in the right direction. with a few exceptions you have every state that is either doing better or on the way to doing better. >> over the last 5-6 days we've seen declines in cases across the country and this has been very reassuring for us. >> in terms of our cases and number of hospitalizations, that are being utilized, they are all

trending in the right direction. we certainly have flattened the curve. >> the change of hospitalizations, down. that's good news. icu admissions is down, that's good news. intimations are down, that's very good news. >> laura: i just smile. we needed this good news. the original models were very wrong and a lot of people have been social distancing and other things are happening as well. we get into that later in the week, but amazing, look at this new york chart on daily hospitalization, it was up behind cuomo during the press conference. that's a beautiful thing, look at where it's going and that is after such a brutal six weeks in the city. remember, it was just three weeks ago that the angle was basically alone and strongly questioning the models that had predicted a tsunami for new york hospitals. remember governor cuomo's claim that he would need nearly 30000-40,000 ventilators in the

state. well, today, this is what he said. >> we have stabilized our health care situations. new york had one of the earlier curves. there are other places in this country but are now seeing increases in the death rate in this -- they are seeing stress on the health care system. we will send 100 ventilators to michigan and 52 the state of maryland. >> laura: they are giving away the ventilators, that's how comparatively well they're doing when it comes to critical care in new york. and this is where things stand in california. remember the state of 40 million people. it reported 76 coronavirus deaths so far today for a total of 864 deaths. by august 4th, if the newest projections are accurate, the mortality rate there will be astronomically low. gosh, what's going on in california? why is it happening that way? they close down on, what,

march 15th, 17th, cannot really explain all of this? a study in the economist that many more americans with mild or no symptoms were undoubtedly infected with covid-19 but never tested. that's that the nominator we've been talking about. if millions of people were infected weeks ago without dyi dying, the virus must be less deadly than official data suggests. covid-19 takes 20-25 days to kill victims. the paper reckons that 7 million americans were infected from march 8th 2 the 14th. and social data shows that 7,000 deaths three weeks later. the resulting fatality rate is .1%. similar to that of the flu. that's amazingly low. just a tenth of some other estimates. by comparison, look at where covid winds up in mortality as compared to the flu. okay, there it is. a fascinating, given what our political leaders had predicted

again just 21 days ago. and of course eminent scientists who are informing them. now, despite all the good news, there's no sign that liberal governors or mayors are changing their dark their troponin responses. in fact, some may even be ramping them up. l.a. mayor eric garcetti still says no big gatherings. >> until there is either a vaccine, some sort of pharmaceutical intervention or herd immunity, science is the science and public health officials have been very clear. got many, many miles to walk before we're going to be back in those environments. >> laura: a few weeks ago he was warning that l.a. county was going to be like new york city. well, what happened to that? thankfully that didn't come to pass. if the citizens of california -- if they're not happy with these decisions at some point, they're going to need to make their voices heard. they're going to need to speak up in any way that they can. these are elected officials, they are supposed to be representing the health of the whole state and making sure people are behaving responsibly for sure.

like small business owners -- well, did this yesterday in north carolina and today in michigan where thousands of patriots rallied for reopening. we are going to talk to an organizer in a moment. today i was thinking about this desperate need to reopen america. you see it, you feel it, people are getting antsy, but not just because they want to go out to a restaurant, because they sense what's really happening. and then the ongoing violations of our civil liberties and the shutdown, we've been documenting them. i ran across a recent "vanity fair" interview with anthony fauci. and the question to him, believe it or not, was about whether it's safe during the crisis for people to use the hook up apps like tinder and grinder. well, he answer the question and here's what he said. you know, that's tough because it's what's called relative risk. everybody has their own tolerance for risk. you could figure out if you want to meet somebody if you're looking for a friend, sit in a

room and put a mask on and chat a bit. if you want to go a little bit more intimate, well then, that's your choice regarding a risk. bingo! okay. life is filled with risks in other words. we should all be careful and we should all be responsible, but the government cannot, nor really should try eliminate all risks associated with covid-19 anymore than it could with the h1n1 or the swine flu. when we step out of the door, when we walk onto the streets, we enter a building, we get into a car, get on a bike, there are always relative risks. but the damage to millions and millions of lives, including children's' lives and our basic freedoms during the shutdown, that's also very real and for many it has been absolutely devastating. many are willing to take the

risk of contracting the virus. it would seem that in the pole and, what they rate is more worrisome to them. and they would risk this in order to preserve their way of life. >> there's also death involved in keeping it closed. when you look at mental health, when you look at suicides, suicide hotlines, which are exploding, people that didn't take drugs and now they're becoming drug addicted because they're going through a problem, they have no job, they have no money coming in. we have to get back to work. >> laura: for president trump, all of america is the patient and if we don't reopen soon, she is to flatline. and those are my thoughts at the end of day 30, america and shutdown. joining me now a small business owner, one who attended the protest against michigan's stay-at-home order today. the volunteer with the michigan conservative coalition. matt, your governor essentially said today that you'd be stuck in the house anyway because

there's snow on the ground. a snowstorm in michigan. your response to that. >> it's just ridiculous. i mean, ultimately however -- is so fed up with being sequestered and treated like small children in that we can't social distance and be diligent about personal hygiene, follow cdc guidelines and state practices and, you know, we want to take our lives back. one thing that we learned through this is that this is going to be the new normal. covid-19 is going to be in our lives for at least the next year until there's a vaccine and we need to figure out a way to get back to as normal of a life as possible while this plays out in the background. the solution is not to lock us into our homes. >> laura: i'll say if you say when we get a vaccine, it always amazes me to hear people say when we get a vaccine. we don't have an hiv vaccine.

we didn't complete a sars vaccine. so the idea that there's definitely going to be a vaccine, that's an incredibly involved process, necessarily so. and it may or may not happen, but meanwhile, governor whitmer is saying that what you did and thousands of people there, it was just a political stunt. check it out. >> it wasn't really about the stay-at-home order at all, it was essentially a political rally, a political statement. in the face of all of the science, all of them -- the stay-at-home order that was issued. a small group of people that came together without masks on, brandishing their weapons, having posters of being antichoice. this was a political rally. >> laura: she says it's political and suddenly she starts bringing up anti- -- i mean, i don't understand that but is there any fairness to the criticism that it wasn't a bipartisan group of people, it was basically just a bunch of republicans wanting to make her

look bad? >> in fact we went out of our way to make this bipartisan. this is not a political issue. to us, we would have come out and had the same protests with a republican governor or an independent governor, we just think that our civil liberties are being violated and decided that the only way that we could have our voices be heard was to engage in basic civil disobedience and, you know, we had a lot of unity. there were over 10,000 vehicles. over 600 trucks from the construction industry, including cement collars. we had people from the landscaping industry, heating and cooling, boats being towed. so it was -- >> laura: with got to go. we are seeing signs of life in the american public because there are a lot of us who are out there saying -- look, and the states, especially the ones that had very relatively few infections compared to what was

being projected, people are dying out there. small businesses are dying, people are missing surgeries. people having to take pay cuts in the field of medicine because all nonessential surgeries are being put off. there's a lot of pain out there that has been overlooked and i think including by your governor. thank you so much, great to see you tonight. >> with got to get back to work. >> laura: absolutely right. my next guest is on the president's new task was to reopen economy. joining me now is jimmy john leo terrell, the founder of jimmy john's restaurant chain. all right, jimmy, you were on the call with the president and business leaders today. where is this all headed? are we looking for a monday partial reopening for some states, especially those that have had very few infections? >> you know, where it's all heading is -- i believe that from what i learned today, i think there are going to be different strokes for different folks. i think that from what i'm

learning is that there are areas that are less infected that i think are going to be open sooner and i think areas that are more infected are going to be opened a little later on. but i believe it's really different strokes for different folks and its management jobs to manage and they will have to manage each situation and each town, each county, each state differently without a leader, with our president and our governors. and i think it's going to be -- i think it's going to be selective and i think it's going to be managed. >> laura: one thing is that bizarre, jimmy, we are talking about california. no one has been able to adequately explain california and i've rejected some of the orthodoxy on the numbers early on and i was slammed for it. and it just -- i had a lot smarter people than i was crunching the numbers and it was very comp located statistical analysis and they are like this is not right. and when you see the numbers as they are in california, the university of california

hospital system as of today, i just got a call before the show has i believe 114 covid patients. that's across i believe ten different hospitals. these are major institutions. and yet there saying we can't do -- restaurants are going to be able to operate the same or anywhere near the same, basically life is going to be upended until there's a vaccine. or maybe until there's an immunity test, which isn't even accurate. how do restaurant chains managed to survive if you can't have more than a third of your normal traffic, which when you do the calculations, that's about the average. >> the math doesn't work and so the math doesn't work and so eventually what happens is when you run out of feed, that's and everybody dies. it's at a critical point right now that people, they need to get going again. we've been absorbing this for a

while and there is something else that had small businesses that was unintended consequences of the last administration, not just jimmy john's. all small businesses were burdened with a very complex new labor laws and they were not -- the small businesses were not prepared to deal with it. they didn't have hr departments, they didn't have legal departments, and so as they dealt with all of those sudden changes in labor laws -- as they rounded the corner and learn to deal with it and learned to manage around her that we came out the last couple of years and really had wind in our sails and now, you know, the small businesses just got pounded by the pandemic. but their resilient and they're ready to go and they're excited to go. and i believe they're going to go when the president says it's go time. it's going to be go time, there's nobody that can compete with small-town american business owners. that's what runs -- one small

town america wins the united states of america wins and so they're ready to go, laura. they're ready to rock 'n' roll. >> laura: that means the mayors of the governors have to be responsive to the needs of all people while of course being concerned about safety as well. but all people's needs and concerns have to be addressed in any overarching solution. jimmy, thank you so much, it was great to see you. >> thank you very much for having me, it's a complex situation and it requires a complex management and we will listen to our leader. >> laura: thanks so much. president trump is aiming a course to reopen the country starting on may 1st, but some states may get relief even earlier. >> we'll be opening up states, some states, much sooner than others and withing some of the states can actually open up before the deadline of may 1st and i think that that will be a very exciting time indeed. governors are looking forward -- they're chomping at the bit to

get going. >> laura: ben carson, secretary of hud joins me now. also on the coronavirus task force. dr. carson, before we get into the when we can reopen, the california question -- i'm going to stay on this, because it's -- like what is it, the seventh largest economy in the world? the entire state is basically at a standstill with the exception of a few essential businesses and every loss of life precious, that's without saying that, it's obvious, but the numbers there are so staggeringly low compared to other high population centers. thoughts? >> well, you know, we have two choices in a situation like this. we can say let's just stay shuttered in place until there's no vestige of virus, there's no danger to anybody and in the meantime, the economic

infrastructure of the country is completely destroyed and more people die from poverty than they do of viruses. or you can say, look, life is full of risk, but we learn how to deal with them. when you go outside the house, you could be paralyzed by fear and say there are cars going up and down the street. i dare not go in there. where there's a river, i better just sit on the shore and be terrified. why not just walk down a little ways and go across the bridge? so what we have to do is learn how to live with these risks. we learn how to deal with the virus. we learn how to distance ourselves socially. we learn appropriate hygiene. but, you know, we don't sit there and wait for the infrastructure of the country to be destroyed economically. >> laura: the concern that a lot of us have about this immunity testing -- it's great to have this idea of immunity testing. it's not that simple. i know you guys have been looking at it because it's not

foolproof. a lot of false negatives, false positives and we don't know how long any immunity would even last, so doesn't that go back to your point that the more complex a reopening process of six stages -- the more complex that is, the more, you know, risk intensive it is in a way with a larger patient of the american people. >> we've made tremendous progress with testing and we will continue to make tremendous progress with it. there will come a time when we can test virtually everybody. we are not. but we are moving up that slope very, very quickly and we will get there, but we don't have to wait until we reach the top of that peak in order to, you know, start acting in a logical way. that's why we have these very sophisticated brains. your brain has billions and billions of neurons, hundreds of billions of interconnections, can process more than 2 million bits of information in one second. why don't we use that? we don't have to be paralyzed by

fear. that's the thing that characterizes us as human beings. >> laura: dr. carson, really quickly, a lot of friends of mine are in the medical profession, they say that women like getting reconstruction after breast cancer surgery or having to put that off because of this virus and what happened to our nonessential -- supposedly nonessential surgeries. can you speak to that very briefly? >> yes. well, the president is very concerned about that particular issue. i think you're going to be hearing something about that in the next day or two because there are many hospitals who have 30, 40, 50% of their beds on occupied. tremendous amount of talent, medical talent out there just sitting around and obviously that impacts our economic forecast, so yes, we are going to deal with that along with lots of other things, gradually introducing people back, recognize there are 24% of the counties in this country have no

virus problem at all. >> laura: dr. carson, so great to see you, i'm so glad you're on the task force. you take care of yourself, we will talk to you soon. coming up, bombshell report tonight exposing what china knew about the coronavirus. where going to find out when exactly they knew it. josh hawley next. these days you need faster internet that does all you

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♪ >> the reason that we are in the crisis that we are today is not because of anything that china did. it's not because of anything the w.h.o. did, it's because of what this president had buried because he didn't take this virus seriously. we weren't going to be able to keep every case out o out of the amended states but we didn't have to have tens of thousands of people dying. >> laura: that's just disgusting. that was 24 hours ago, democrat senator. on television, just absolving china of any responsibility in the coronavirus crisis. right. we've been highlighting the communist countries obfuscation for weeks now but this morning

new reporting from the ap revealed the length of the chinese cover-up. according to the ap, the head of china's national health commission held january 14th teleconference with health officials there revealing "the epidemic situation is still severe and complex. the most severe challenge since sars in 2003 and is likely to develop into a major public health event." despite that grim assessment, china's leaders didn't warn the public for six days. had they acted immediately, one study estimates they could have cut the number of infected people by two-thirds. but china's deceit of course doesn't stop there. it never does. fox news learning late tonight that the u.s. now believes that china's initial claim that covid-19 originated at a wuhan wet market -- i always knew that was you will know what, a lie. but now we basically confirm this, the belief is that the virus escape from that high security virology lab in wuhan. ironically the chinese lab was studying the coronavirus in

order to supposedly prevent a pandemic. in patient zero now -- remember it was five weeks ago we asked why don't we really know more about this patient zero? now that would be patient zero was apparently a lab worker, so instead of warning the world, fox is told that china moved to silence doctors and destroy lab samples. so china has to be held accountable for this plague. luckily senator josh hawley has legislation to do just that. the missouri senator joints me now. senator, first tell us what your bill would do to hold them accountable and tell us how the mouthpieces for beijing, i understand, they are not targeting you. >> indeed. in fact the basic government -- put together a video, laura that called me a liar and called on me to resign. so i figure i'm on the right path, that we are going to keep pushing ahead. there's what my bill would do.

two things. number one, it would set up a commission, an international commission led by the united states to get the truth. we know the truth isn't that this was just some happenstance occurrence that china didn't know anything about. we know we knew all about this, we know they suppress the evidence and we know now it looks more likely than not it came from one of their own labs, so let's get the truth and let's hold them accountable for it. that's part number two. my bill would allow every citizen in this country who has been affected by the coronavirus to sue beijing, to sue the chinese communist party to get damages for it. that's the kind of accountability we need. >> laura: and senator, don't we need to move immediately so call back are essential manufacturing from china? i mean, we need a new industrial policy. i know they have a lot of our medicines now so we have to be careful but this is an opportunity for the president to do what so many americans have been asking for for decades, frankly. getting our primary manufacturing back home, made in

the usa. >> absolutely, and that's critical to surging out of this crisis, laura. we got to get our economy reopened as soon as we can. we've got to get american workers back to work and part of that is bringing home critical production, bringing home critical supply chains. our medical supply chains at the very top of that list, so i've introduced legislation that would secure the supply chains, that would enact new requirements that a certain percentage of our medical needs have to be produced here in the united states and it also would incentivize business to move their production back to this country. we'd be crazy after all that we have learned from this experience about our dependence on china, we'd be crazy not to take steps to try to get more independence and bring production back to us. >> laura: bill gates is very upset that the president has moved to defund w.h.o., at least until we get answers and he said that's a disaster because the pandemic is basically going to

go down to south america and it's going to spread and the w.h.o. is so great. but given their complicity in this cover-up, i mean, why are we in the w.h.o. for another second is my question? >> great question and my question too. i think the president is doing exactly the right thing to withhold funding. there needs to be fundamental reform, like a total overhaul, of the w.h.o. before we get back into it in terms of funding it. the truth is the fate of the world the w.h.o. has. what have they done to stop this pandemic? what did they do when china was lying to the world, when china was jailing doctors who were blowing the whistle on this? forget about china knowing in january. they knew in december, maybe earlier that they had a major health crisis on their hand and what did they do? they tried to suppress it. they tried to stop people from treating the disease. they tried to stop people from getting the truth out. we are all suffering because of that. >> laura: americans died and our economy is fried and yet we have some of your colleagues that are, as you heard in the

intro bite, senator murphy, blaming trump for this. this is despicable. completely despicable. >> it is -- the ability of folks -- partisan politics is unbelievable. it has a way of just totally capturing the brain in washington, d.c., and nobody can think of anything else, but it's time to set that aside. i mean, it's time to put america first, it's time to go all in on america. we need to get this country back to work, back ready to work, we need to break the back of this epidemic and then get the country open and give people their jobs back and part of that means securing our critical supply chains from china. >> laura: american workers. senator, the president echoed something i've been saying for weeks. he basically said the congress has to come back into session. with got to start voting on nominees, got to have regular course of business or he's going to take action, which is unusu unusual, constitutionally allowed to adjourn congress. what do you say about that move

and if this is an all of government approach, where the heck is congress? >> in terms of all of the nominees that are out there, the president has been unable to fill large parts of his government. for literally years now because democrats have slow walked or filibustered every single nominee and now here we are in a crisis and i hear my democrat colleagues complaining that the government isn't staff. there's a reason the government isn't staffed. it's because you won't let us vote on any of the nominees. my view is that the democrats are going to continue to play these games in the midst of a crisis, than the president has got to consider every option at his disposal. we also, though, in terms of congress doing its job, congress has got to take action right now to get this economy back on its feet. we need to take action to rehire every worker who's been laid off. we need to protect every american job for the duration of this crisis. and get unemployment down. >> laura: senator, if you've got one of the biggest economies in the world over there in california, shut down until there's a vaccine, basically a

lot of it's going to be shut down until we have a miracle immunity test for everybody i mean, that's just not going to happen. that alone is such a huge part of our economy, but gavin newsom, and maybe it's all good intentions, give him good intentions, but that is just -- that's devastating. and i have a very small percentage of deaths, thank goodness, compared to new york. just apples and oranges. it's all most like they are two different viruses. >> my concern is if we don't take action pretty darn quick to get the unemployment rate down in this country, if we don't take action to get people their jobs back and to secure those jobs for the duration of this crisis, we are not going to have an economy to reopen. you can't reopen something that doesn't exist, so it's time for congress to take action right now. >> laura: senator, thank you for leading on this china issue. some of us have been called isolationists and xenophobes for about 25 years and restriction nests on this issue, thank you so much. i really appreciate it sir, good

to see it in. >> good to see you. >> laura: up next nancy pelosi is revealing her secret to surviving the lockdown and governor cuomo disses god? no. raymond arroyo breaks it all down, seen and unseen next. do you have concerns about mild memory loss related to aging? prevagen is the number one pharmacist-recommended memory support brand. you can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. prevagen. healthier brain. better life.

♪ >> laura: it's time for are seen and unseen segment where we expose the big cultural stories of the day. joining me now is raymond arroyo, fox news contributor, now in paperback.

all right, ray, tv getting very strange during this stay in place shut down deal. so what is speaker pelosi up to? i've been wondering where she is, pray tell. >> she is showing up a lot and she showed up the other night on james corden's show from her kitchen. after claiming that the president is not concerned about the working people during the coronavirus outbreak, she revealed her key, laura, to surviving the quarantine. >> chocolate. >> really? >> chocolate, chocolate. candy. >> oh wow. >> end. >> oh, my, wow. >> other people in my family look for other flavors, but chocolate and then we have some other chocolate here. >> laura: oh, my god. >> you've heard of california closets. if that's the california closets of freezers. did you see that sucker? she's talking about protecting the working man. she's got those gourmet ice

creams. those babies go for $13 a tub. don't talk to me about being the workingmen. >> laura: he did pretty well. they are doing fine, raymond, in the confines of napa valley, sonoma valley, pacific heights. they're all fine there. what else? >> if you missed the big muppet prime time corona special, i found the political equivalent yesterday. cardi b and bernie sanders held a pro-biden pro instagram meet up. it was on for the ages. >> bernie. uncle bernie, how are you doing? >> i'm good. i want you to take a look at my nails, how are they looking? >> they are looking very quarantine. i can tell you've been in quarantine for a while now. >> losing the nomination is a tough way to go, laura. >> laura: i couldn't quite make out what she was saying.

it was very high-pitched, but he looks -- i don't think i've ever seen -- i don't think i've ever seen him smile. he actually was smiling. >> this is all about cardi b convincing her followers that joe biden is an acceptable candidate and bernie came clean about his new role in all of this. watch. >> what i am trying to do right now is to work with joe to see that he becomes a more progressive candidate. >> laura -- >> laura: he looks like -- >> he's trying to get -- he is trying to get joe biden to accept a $15 minimum wage, open borders, which he told cardi b he's very close on immigration. he's moving in the right direction. this should be terrifying to democrats who want to win over middle america. this will not help them. >> laura: have to say this. you've got to remember whom they are promoting, right?

wasn't joe by another today, what was he doing? >> today he was hosting a workers town hall, laura, or whatever you want to call it. >> look, i want to thank everyone on this program. this program. this town hall we are having here, roundtable. for taking time to speak to me today. there's more than one, you know, coronavirus. this covid-19 is one strain of that. >> covid-19. joe biden probably thinks cardi b is a topical. fastly some of that cardi b. he doesn't know who cardi b is. but anyway, this was his outreach to the workers today, not working very well. >> laura: i have to say, joe, at one point he said -- you know, you've got to wear masks. trump doesn't wear a mask. you have to wear a mask and he says after this interview ends i'm going to grab the mask because of all the television

apparatus people around -- the television apparatus. it was something bizarre there. raymond, i want to get your reaction to your hometown mayor, the plans for the big events in new orleans. jazz fest, which i was supposed to go to this year i guess with you. i guess that's over. i just recently all moved to the fall. watch. >> my recommendation is absolutely no large events as it relates to the year of 2020. that the focus should shift to 2021. >> 2021, laura. so the mayor, she claims she's the mayor of the city. if she's the mayor of no. she's canceled all of these major events this year. we want people to be safe. she did not talk about the saints however, what will happen to the saints, our nfl franchise here. at other mayors are considering this stuff as well. i spoke to new orleans executives, sports executives today.

they want to play, they want the saints back in the dome and they are taking creative initiative to do so. you want to keep their fans safe, so they sell fewer seats. they up to install those lights to purify the people as they come in. that kills the virus on surface. we have to find creative ways before we just say no to everything. i think people want to get back together and they certainly want to take part in communal events. >> laura: the president said that tonight. he's like we got to have sports back. we want people to stay safe but i'd go back to what carson said earlier at the point of risk. it's like relative risk, given the lethality of the virus certain populations, age groups of people, you've got to be careful with those certain groups of age sensitive or underlying conditions. but life is filled with risks. otherwise he might as well just i'll call it quits now. >> you take people stems as they move in but the very idea of

anthony fauci that you football players in a silo and they are all season. that's ridiculous, that will never work and you play everything out in phoenix. before we go, a car to play this bit. new york governor andrew cuomo's press conference the other day. religious believers are furious over the statement, you'll see why. >> the number is down because we brought the number down. god did not do that. fete did not do that. destiny did not do that. a lot of pain and suffering did that. >> god didn't do it in faith didn't do it. there's an underlying animus towards people of faith in the power of prayer here that is really unbecoming. he uses god when he needs it politically and then writes it off when he's successful. it's an ugly trait. >> laura: archbishop cardinal dolan thinks of all that. raymond, it's great to se see yu tonight. >> archbishop andrew cuomo apparently.

>> laura: thanks so much. and coming up, we expose how much bill gates is actually influencing the w.h.o., and you don't want to miss it. achievable steps along the way... ...so we can spend a bit now, knowing we're prepared for the future. surprise! we renovated the guest room, so you can live with us. oooh, well... i'm good at my condo. oh. i love her condo. nana throws the best parties. well planned, well invested, well protected. voya. be confident to and through retirement.

♪ >> laura: president trump's decision to withhold w.h.o. funding has upset one of the organization's most prominent supporters. that's microsoft founder bill gates, tweeting apart, halting funding for the w.h.o. during the world health crisis is as dangerous as it sounds. the world needs them now more than ever. well, the truth is the group actually needs gates more than ever. with the u.s. taking a pause, he will now be their largest active donor. that's right, one out of every ten box that the w.h.o. gets is from the world's second wealthiest man. so should we be concerned about how much one man has maybe an

outside influence with an obviously corruptible entity such as the w.h.o.? joining me now, "the washington times" opinion editor, has been writing up a storm about all of this. cheryl, is all that money from gates influencing how the w.h.o. operates? >> definitely. and thanks for having me, laura, to talk about this issue that's really fallen under the radar. bill gates wields tremendous influence in the world health organization and are not the only one saying that. back in 2017 politico, which as you know is not even considered a far right or conservative publication -- political called him the world health organization doctor, that he had such influence that when he wanted a policy pushed, that the world health organization he regrets what oftentimes caved to his wishes. and it's not just funding that we need to be worried about in

america. this is an unelected guy who really has no political affiliation with america and yet he has been given a huge platform to push what i view as anti-american policies based on coronavirus figures. and this is something that he is not going to be held accountable to by voters. >> laura: here's what the gates foundation has given to the world health organization and related organizations. okay, 395 grants totaling 3.6 billion to the w.h.o. he pledged up to 100 million for the global response to covid-19. he pledged 279 million to the institute for health metric in the evaluation -- the university of washington, that's that ihme model that of course initially wasn't all that accurate in protecting what was going on with this virus.

more accurate now with all the new data and he gave .5 million in grants to the cdc foundation. people think the cdc is just kind of an independent government agency, but they get money from the gates foundation, so it seems like gates has his hand in pretty much everything pandemic-related, cheryl. >> here's an interesting tide. so bill gates for the longest time wanted to have the world health organization declare coronavirus a pandemic. in the world health organization did not want to do that. so a day after bill gates through his foundation announced an infusion of $50 million into something called the therapeutic accelerator to help fight coronavirus and find a vaccine, much of that money to go towards the world health organization. one day after that announcement the world health organization

secretary general came out and declared coronavirus a pandemic. >> laura: applicable. cheryl, we will be on this and thank you for staying on this and we really enjoyed your pieces on this. we will have you back. coming up, remember adam schiff? remember him? what's he been up to? we will tell you when we come back. every financial plan needs a cfp® professional --

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>> laura: it's time for the "last fight." you heard me say this time and time again, whereas congress? tonight we have the answer for one member.

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