wow period. >> sean: thi does the statement over you, if nominated i will not accept, drop that i will run, if elected, i will not serve, is that your statement? >> yes. >> sean: all right. sherman answer. let not your heart be troubled. laura. i guess that's a pretty definitive no, he's not running. >> laura: i think it's actually really great that he comes on your radio show. i think it's good. >> sean: we got into a fight. >> laura: i love it. >> sean: we got into a pretty big fight because i was pretty unhappy with all the stuff that he was saying. >> laura: that's all right. >> sean: now we are back -- listen, i live in the state, i don't want anyone else dying, i'm sick of it. i want everybody to live. >> laura: all i can say is we didn't need, thankfully, 30,000 or 40,000 ventilators. great show can go to see you. i'm laura ingraham, this is "the ingraham angle." very busy washington tonight. this may be one of the most important shows we've done during this entire coronavirus crisis. dr. anthony fauci is here and he's going to tell us about the

science behind the reopening of the u.s. economy. specifically explaining some differences, why do the numbers in california stay so low versus new york? and dr. phil will join us for his first fox news appearance in years with a message to americans about why it is so important to return to normalcy. plus, she's become the liberal poster child for liberal hate. the poster child for liberal hate. south dakota governor kristi noem is here and she will tell us why her refusal to mandate a stay-at-home order was her way of preserving the public health and liberty. and devin nunes has a key democrat blocked his effort for an intel hearing on china. he reveals what happened later in the hour. but first, my thoughts at the end of day 31, america in shutdown. now, the media seem to be a little caught off guard by the president's announcement tonight of a three phased plan to open

america. >> do you think these are pretty good touchstones for states to decide when to start slowly easing restrictions? >> you know, in the absence of widescale testing, i'd say there probably -- you know, there's probably some room for improvement on them, but i wouldn't, you know, throw any major stones at them right now. >> laura: okay, it kills them to say anything positive. the guidance is just that, it's guidance. ultimately it's the state's decision regarding when and how to reopen. some governors may do this on a statewide basis or regional basis and very soon. now, moving from one phase to the next requires the number of infections and hospitalizations to decline over a 14-day period along with other stipulations about crowd sizes and schools. >> phase one begins with all vulnerable individuals, including those with comorbidities continuing to shelter in place. and ensuring that those that first go out into the public are

not those that are most vulnerable to bad outcomes in this disease. face to go. again we are asking for the public to continue to maximize physical distance. however, we increased social settings to be able to now have 50 individuals. and nonessential travel can resume. phase three. so phase three, i won't go through in detail which is essentially returning to our new normal with all of what we talked about through all phases. >> when you're in that phase, the flexibility is that there may be some setbacks. let's face it. this is uncharted water. there may be some setbacks that we may have to fall back a little. >> laura: the administration was never going to please everybody with its restarting of the economy plan, but is this all too complicated? is it to involve? the cdc believes that we are nearing peak deaths in the united states and the agency's director says the deaths could peak sometime this week.

while citizens and the several states who have had very small numbers of cases on the outside and declining cases already now for two weeks are asking the following. why does this apply to us at all? and given how often the models were from the outset by a factor of 10 at the upside, wire states like california even in shutdown anymore? california has 951 deaths. it's a horrible number when you think about -- we don't want anyone to die, but in a state of 40 million -- speaking of california, the entire university of california hospital system had only 119 cobit patients in its ten hospitals yesterday. again, every death is a tragedy, but the number of covid deaths here i in the state's populace s california is stunningly low, thank god. remember, 40 million people. california's economy is the seventh largest in the world. and it's had to come to a standstill because of a virus

that will end up, it looks like, killing about the same number we lose in a nasty influenza season. well, at least governor gavin newsom has his priorities straight. >> we feel a deep sense of gratitude for people that are in fear of deportation. that's why i'm proud is going to be the first state to announce a program for direct disaster assistance to those individuals. we are putting up $75 million in partnership with philanthropy. >> laura: again, the shutdown is inflicting not just inconvenience on california and citizens coast-to-coast, it's caused massive societal disruption, economic pain unlike anything we've seen since the great depression and of course deep stress for children, especially at risk children, and families. some hospitals are cutting salaries because of noncovid care being postponed. other hospitals, other clinics

may shut down altogether. voters across america in states with rigid shutdowns are starting to look at this more closely and starting to put real pressure on their state legislatures. case in point. in pennsylvania, the governor's absurdly broad definition of nonessential businesses was rejected on tuesday by the state lawmakers. democrat governor tom wolf says he will veto their measure. and finally, check out the overhead shot of the line of cars at an l.a. food bank this week. this is disturbing. and it's heartbreaking. and this shouldn't happen in the united states of america. i imagine over the next few weeks and as we get closer to june we are going to see a lot more citizen activism from people who aren't afraid so much of losing their life to this virus, but they're getting really afraid of losing their livelihoods from a prolonged inability to make a decent living.

and those are my thoughts at the end of day 31, america in shutdown. joining me now is dr. anthony fauci, director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases thanks for being with us, it's been a long day. you say we can go back to normal until there's a vaccine or some massive change. how was the president's plan to reopen parts of the economy in the country in line with that? >> well, it is, because as you know, it's been in detail described, but it is a gradual process that takes into account that we have a heterogeneous dynamic of outbreaks throughout the country. as you mentioned, california is really different than new orleans. it is really different than new york or detroit. in places like arkansas, new mexico are very different, so what this plan does, it

creates a baseline of a starting point, which we call the gating, we have to have a certain degree of indication that the outbreak is decreasing over a period of time. in the new graduate gradually from one phase to another phase to another phase. which will allow those areas that really have had very little involvement to more rapidly and effectively get back to a more normal approach. whereas others, which are still struggling, they would have to get past the first i would say requirement of being able to get into the phases. so i had said with you, laura, sometime ago on the show that if we go back to normal, it's not going to be like a light switch going on and off, it's going to be a gradual progression that's going to be dictated by the situation in a particular region of the country. this expresses that very clearly. >> laura: that gives maximum flexibility to states no doubt, but speaker nancy pelosi of

course from california calls this plan of yours and the president's vague and inconsistent and this is what joe biden said about her just moments ago, watch. >> i wouldn't call it a plan. i think what he's done, he's kind of punted. he's decided that he doesn't have the right to make the call for the country. this isn't going to be over until we have a vaccine. >> laura: punted, you punted, all of you people working on this, and apparently he's claiming that you didn't listen to yourself since you are a scientist. >> i don't know what you mean by listen to myself. >> laura: he said -- he said they're not listening to the scientists, they are punting and basically it's not over until there's a vaccine. so your response to biden? >> well, there's truth to that. it's not going to be over to the point of our being able to not do any mitigation until we have a scientifically sound safe and

effective vaccine, but that does not mean that we can't approach a significant degree of normality. one of the things that we said very clearly, that throughout all of those phases, there's a baseline level of care that we would have to be addressing that we didn't have before we had this outbreak. so whether you're on phase one and still tightened up a bit or you've already graduated to phase three, there are still guidelines for all phases. that's what we feel is going to be safeguarding any explosion, which we hope will never happen and if it does, one of the requirements of this is to make sure we have the capability of jumping all over that. so i don't think there's any inconsistencies here. >> laura: on the question of a vaccine, we don't have a vaccine for sars. they got close in mice. we don't have a vaccine for hiv. and life did go on, right?

so the idea that we are definitely going to have a vaccine, we didn't really approach much else in the same way as we are pegging going back to normal with a vaccine. did we? >> welt -- no, but this is different. hiv/aids is entirely different. we don't have a vaccine for hiv/aids but we have spectacularly effective treatment. people who invariably would have died years ago right now are leading essentially normal lives. sars is a different story. sars disappeared. we developed a vaccine -- we were in the process of going through the various phases. we showed it was safe, we showed it induced a good response and then sars disappeared and we didn't need to develop a vaccine for sars. so i think it's a little bit misleading maybe to compare what we are going through now with hiv or sars. there really different. >> laura: but we don't know,

this could disappear. sars did pretty much disappear. at this code as well correct? >> yeah. you know, anything could, laura, but i have to tell you the degree of efficiency of this is really unprecedented in anything i've seen. it's an extraordinarily efficient virus in transmitting from one person to another. these viruses don't just disappear. >> laura: i just want to talk about california because no one's really been able to explain that, the differential between a state with 40 million people and 951 deaths and new jersey and new york, or louisiana and illinois. the numbers are -- they don't really make sense and even with the shutdown dates, it's a few days off here or there. could there be different viral strains that circulated longer on the west coast versus predominantly on the east coast? have you looked into that?

>> well, there could be, but they're not. if you look at the sequences of the viruses that are now going into genetic banks, i mean, obviously viruses mutate a lot. there's no indication whatsoever that it has any functional relevance, but there are good epidemiological possibilities of why there is such a difference. remember, the first cases, laura, that came into the country from wuhan and the people that we brought in when we were bringing them back who are american citizens, that seated in washington state and in some regions of california in the l.a. area. that was at a time when there were so few cases that the people in washington and in california were able to do effective containment, so they never allowed it to get to the point of needing mitigation. new york city, they really got caught by surprise because if

you look at the seating into new york city, that was mostly from europe. that wasn't from china. and by the time they realized they had a problem in a big city with a big subway system, there was a problem. i mean, it started off in new rochelle with a single case. came down into the city and then we had a problem. so through no fault of their own, new york city got hit really hard were fortunately california and washington started off with a very small stimulus, which they jumped all over. >> laura: we ask reviewers to submit their questions about the reopening plan and this question comes from kate. she says how does phase one include ramping up the workforce without schools and day cares opening? schools don't open until phase two but 85% of american parents work outside the home. schools are the primary form of child care for most of us american parents. dr. fauci, how would you answer that? >> yeah. well, you know there isn't a

perfect answer to that. obviously that is an issue. remember, the schools that are closed stay closed. that doesn't mean that you will close schools that are open depending upon where you are, so i don't see in phase one all schools being closed. if you look at the words carefully, it says those that were already closed, make sure you get through phase one before you pull back, but if someone, a governor in a state or what have you is thinking about what they need to do and their state is doing pretty well, they don't necessarily have to close the schools. >> laura: and dr. fauci, finally, do we have all the data that we want from china? i know you have a good working relationship with chinese scientists and academics, but what about that primary data about patient zero and all that key data about the therapies that they've used? >> no. i mean i think any of us who

have been dealing with this now for the last few months don't feel confident at all that we have all of the data of the originally infected individuals, how long there were people in the circulation or even now, how many deaths there really are in china. that number is really rather a low number. that number surprises me. that that number is so low, but then again, you know it is what it is, it's behind us, let's move ahead and address our own problem. >> laura: dr. fauci, we really appreciate you taking some time tonight. thanks so much. >> always good to be with you, thank you. >> laura: south dakota governor kristi noem is refusing to demonstrate her states economy and ruin people's lives by imposing a lockdown. she didn't. if that's avidly made her public enemy number one for the liberal media. governor kristi noem joins us now. governor, the media, they're not happy with you. they're now claiming south dakota is becoming a covid hot spot. you have seven deaths in the state.

why are they coming after you? >> we've got one issue in a processing plant in sioux falls, south dakota, but outside of that, two-thirds of our state has no cases or one case in an entire county. so we are doing very well as a state. we are addressing the one hot spot that we do have an aggressively testing in that area, but what you talked about is exactly right. we should be tracking who's in the hospital, what the death rate is an south dakota ends are doing a fantastic job following my recommendations would we have been able to keep our businesses open and allow people to take on some personal responsibility. >> laura: the reaction from south dakota ends on being different, a handful of states, iowa, utah, wyoming. obviously south and north dakota, arkansas, decided to go their own way. the blowback though is the media blaming you for the pork processing plant outbreak.

watch. >> smithfield foods, now largest coronavirus hot spot in the u.s. kristi noem has insisted that she still will not issue a stay-at-home order in her stat states. >> their state is home to one of the largest coronavirus hot spots. >> governors just let this problem get bigger and bigger and bigger. and wants to think that she can pretend it out of existence. >> laura: governor, you are pretending this isn't happening, is that what you are doing? >> no, what they are neglecting to tell folks is that this processing plant is critical infrastructure. regardless of a shelter-in-place order or not, it would have been up and running because it's an important part of our nation's food supply. so that's what's been happening on the national level, they've been not telling all the facts behind us. if the people of south dakota can be trusted to make good decisions. we have common sense. that's why people want to live here that's why i love living

here. >> laura: governor, are you surprised that so many states that are quite populous as a matter of percentages have done really well in this battle with the coronavirus? they were predicting, you know, potentially 2 million people dead, the hospital system was going to be overwhelmed. it didn't really come close in new york bent their system, new jersey very stressed, but i heard that governor of louisiana saying we are doing pretty well, we are going in the right direction and we didn't collapse our system. >> yeah, i think it does make a big difference how seriously people take it, how you communicate with them. i know when i gave our folks the guidelines and south dakota about what we needed to do to flatten our curve, they followed. it took that seriously. and we bent our curve by 75% and south dakota. without a dramatic impact on the slowing down of the spread and

will be able to handle it with a capacity in our health care systems and it's all because of decisions that the people made and the fact that we worked together to do that. i think that's what's been unique in south dakota and we've probably seen that in other states as well. >> laura: folks at msnbc morning shows saying that you work -- the way they're doing is that you are too casual about it. governors are supposed to listen to their people and be pragmatic because your balancing rights, civil rights and health. but that's the balance, rights and livelihood versus a virus that, you know, is very tough. but there -- it's amazing, they're treating you guys like pariahs. >> they are and i had a real honest conversation with the people in our state. i told them i took an oath to uphold the constitution of our state, of south dakota. i took an oath when i was in congress, obviously to uphold the constitution of the

united states. i believe in our freedoms and liberties. what i've seen across the country is so many people give up their liberties for just a little bit of security. and i don't have to do that. if a leader will take too much power in a time of crisis, that is how we lose our country. so i felt like i've had to use every single opportunity to talk about why we slow things down, we make decisions based on science and facts and make sure that we are not letting emotion grab a hold of the situation. >> laura: liberty, freedom and our inalienable rights and balancing health. that's really important. governor, thank you so much. thank you for being here tonight, it's great to have you on. and coming up, what does an extended lockdown due to people's mental health? one about their reliance on, well, drugs, alcohol. dr. phil is here, his first fox news appearance in years, to tell us why it's so important to open up america as quickly and safely as we can. next.

♪ >> laura: more than 90% of americans are still living under stay-at-home orders, that might change with the presidency reopening, but it's meant to spread the hall, but halt the spread of the virus comics is me. the effect caused by these lockdowns may be creating a new pandemic, one of mass anxiety and helplessness. >> i don't have any income coming in. i don't get any food stamps. so it's just hard to get, you know, any help right now. >> have a 12-year-old son at home. it makes me stress more so when i stress more i smoke more. >> because i'm pregnant with twins. if we were to get evicted, i don't know what we would do. >> laura: this is heartbreaking. you hear the stories all day long. now we have 22 million people out of work and millions of business owners are facing

insolvency. so how many of our fellow americans are feeling stressed and panicked like the women you just saw? joining me now as dr. phil mcgraw, psychologist, author and host of dr. phil varied dr. phil, thanks so much for being on with us. i think this isn't part of the calculation of, you know, the bending the curve and all of those graphs that we see and they are very interesting and i'm not saying they're not important, but those comments aren't taken into consideration when we look at those graphs. >> well, they never are. and thank you for having me on and thank you for giving a voice to this, because it's so very important. this is invisible. i can't show you an x-ray of depression. i can't show you an x-ray of anxiety. but the fact of the matter is the longer this lockdown goes on the more vulnerable people get and it's like there's a tipping point. there's a point at which people start having enough problems in lockdown but it will actually

create more destruction and actually more death across time than the actual virus will itself. 250 people a year die from poverty. in the poverty line is getting such that more and more people are going to fall below that because the economy is crashing around us. and they're doing that because people are dying from the coronavirus. i get that. but look, the fact of the matter is we have people dying, 45,000 people a year die from automobile accidents, 480,000 from cigarettes. 360,000 a year from swimming pools but we don't shut the country down for that. but yet we are doing it for this and the fallout is going to last for years because people's lives are being destroyed. >> laura: and, dr. phil, just conversations with business owners who have gotten to know over the years. i come from a family that owned a small business, a car wash. and i'm always -- my heart is always with the people who get, you know, frankly screwed. i hate that word, screwed, in

situations like this, but the restaurant tours. their employees are their family. that's their family. and if at the same employees for 30 years. and these are grown men in tears and they are like -- i can't believe -- and these are grown men. and i've never seen this. i've never witnessed this before. ever. >> i've talked to them before and of course this happened and when it happened they got no warning. some of them had just received huge orders of perishable foods. they didn't even have time to give it away and they have these, these people that have worked for them for 20 or 30 years. and they can't afford to keep them on. and they can't do takeout at a lot of these restaurants, they are not geared for that. and so people are just at home and of course it's a perfect storm, laura, because here you've got people that are in isolation. that creates problems. loneliness actually create problems. people that suffer from

loneliness, they become 29% are likely to have coronary artery disease. 32% more likely to have strokes or die. 40% more likely to have dementia if they're in that age group, so it's not just that it's psychological. their bodies actually start breaking down. so we think we are protecting people's lives by keeping them locked up. you keep them locked up long enough, there's a paradoxical effect. you actually destroyed more lives than you do by letting them go out and protect themselves into their lives for what -- to fight for what they believe in. >> laura: i could not agree more. i've been -- i mean, i have not slept during this just because i'm so worried about our country. i'm blessed because i have a job and i'm very blessed. but i'm so worried about the working people in our country. in the impact of being out of school for children and there hasn't been that much of a focus on that. sweden kept their primary school

kids in, they thought that was the right thing to do. and you know, we will see how the numbers all turn out there, but the risk that this poses to children, watch. >> they could just be totally blowing off school. not talking to anyone and just numbing out on youtube videos all them on because they're anxious and depressed and no one is -- no one would know because they are not going to reach out for help. >> laura: dr. phil, how can parents make sure this doesn't happen to their kids i'm aware it's veg time? >> that's a real problem, laura and i'm glad you brought it up because attendance and actual completion of work across the country has dropped about 40%. parents are not trained as teachers. we've got -- we've got so many parents where they have three or four children in three or four different grades and they have one device, one laptop or computer at home, if that, and they're trying to run three or four curriculum when they don't have the training to do it once

and so, that's a real problem. and they're doing it while they've got this hammer hanging over their head that the economy is crashing around their ears. if they don't know they're going to be able to pay their rent. there were 10,000 people that showed up in san antonio over the weekend for the food bank. people that used to be volunteering at the food bank are now in line getting food at the food bank. 10,000 people and we've been -- these are people that don't want to be there. they don't need to be there. >> laura: we have so many questions. our viewers, dr. phil, have been sending in questions all day long. when we come back we will get to those questions from all of you, stay tuned. more dr. phil up next. pared for the future. surprise! we renovated the guest room, so you can live with us. i'm good at my condo. well planned, well invested, well protected. voya. be confident to and through retirement.

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of respiratory diseases. visit cdc.gov/covid19. brought to you by the national association of broadcasters and this station. >> laura: i want to not bring in -- back dr. phil mcgraw, host of "dr. phil, which is in its 18th season, i cannot believe that. all right, dr. phil, we asked our viewers what they really wanted to know. during the coronavirus lockdown. a lot of mental health issues, a lot of concerns. our first question comes from val and she wrote my 89-year-old mom is showing sudden signs of delirium. can you offer some practical suggestions on how to assist her with this quarantine? she's normally active socially, shopping, hair salon, dining out, et cetera. dr. phil? >> i can. and i say this for her mother and also for everybody in this quarantine. you need to maintain your routine. you don't want to become a couch potato and a slug.

you want to get up every morning, take a shower, fix her hair, put on your makeup, get dressed, groom yourself just like you do whenever the world is open, because let me tell you, that door is going to open soon and it's kind of like the pace car at a nascar race. when that pace car pulls off the track, you want to be at full speed. let everybody else be looking for their keys and figuring out what they're going to do. you want to be up to full speed. you need to have your mind busy, you need to be working and doing things every day. don't be sitting around, because particularly elderly people, their mind will begin to wander, and they will not become cognitively active. you've got to be cognitively -- it got to be cognitively agile. this really has an effect on people neuropsychological. i've been talking with my colleague dr. marty greenberg. we are very concerned, even about people in their 30s and 40s losing a step cognitively for being in quarantine. >> laura: kids can go back -- kids have to be hearing from

their teachers at the same time every day as if they would in school on video. you've got to do something. question from don. what can people do to avoid confrontation with other members of the household since everyone is forced to stay home together? dr. phil. might be the last question. >> that's a tough thing. he really got to give each other space. and i mean space mentally, emotionally, physically. and before you judge somebody, you need to realize you're probably a jerk too. so just back off and give everybody some space. this will end soon. we probably shouldn't have ever started this. but just realize there's a light at the end of the tunnel. we need to get out of this and get back to work. major depressive disorder costs $210 billion a year in america and we are feeding it now when we don't need to be. >> laura: and of course domestic abuse hotlines showing optic, concern about abuse of children, opioids, all the rest. dr. phil, we could do a whole hour with you but you have your own show, so thank you so much

for being on. it really enjoyed it and really helped a lot of people. >> laura, thank you for giving a voice to this, and keep doing what you're doing, because you're keeping people active in your keeping the pressure on. thank you for doing it. >> laura: i will do it, thanks so much, dr. phil. next up, for decades, elected officials and experts assured us that trade with china was in our best interest. they were wrong. we are going to name names. stay right there. you've got it all. all this grass. all this mulch. all these projects to do. you need a tractor that can do it all right. you need the #1 selling sub-compact tractor in the u.s.. the versatile kubota bx series.

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♪ >> laura: with the news that fox broke last night about the true extent of china's coronavirus cover-up, we at the ingraham angle felt obligated to tell you -- well, we told you so. china's ambitions have never been a secret yet over the years our political media financial and yes, our health experts,

have claimed and it was in your best interest to cozy up to the communist party. why? well, so they could make a quick buck and flood our country with cheap imported goods -- much to american workers, given how devastating this entire covid-19 pandemic is proven to be, i thought it was important to remind you of those who ignored this global danger. and dismissed it altogether. i give you the china threat deniers. i want to begin three decades ago when china was struggling mightily to merge in the modern world. as "the wall street journal" -- it's different to remember how economically backward the country was in the early 1990s. inflation hit 24% in 1994. nearly 60% of the population lived on less than a buck 90 a day. but china had a plan. the nations communist party leaders would woo western

economic elites in order to gain access to the powerful world trade organization. in one of their key targets was former president bill clinton. and therefore raise, well, they weren't subtle at all. during clinton's 9096 reelection campaign, there were -- senior government officials in china to funnel illicit foreign contributions into his coffers at his campaign. just a few short years ago and years later, excuse me, clinton was already trying to convince americans that they needed to welcome china into the global trading community. >> america has a stake in china's success. in china it is overcome the challenges it has spaces at ho home. a china that is integrated into the institutions, the promote global norms. >> laura: world trade organization. one year after that, communist properly, with china's position in the wto secured, clinton and federal reserve chair alan greenspan held a resin for

dominic triumphant rose garden -- >> as china's citizens experience economic gains, so will the american firms that prayed in their expanding markets. into the wto will create new opportunities for american businesses and farmers. >> i believe that chairman greenspan has established a pretty good record for knowing what is in america's economic interest. >> laura: i can't even listen to that. to be fair, it wasn't just the clinton administration. just two years later george w. bush echoed his predecessors naive sentiments. >> china is on a rising path. and america welcomes the emergence of a strong and peaceful and prosperous china. >> laura: how to that all work for us? and then obama of course echoed bush, like literally. >> the united states welcomes

the rise of a prosperous, peaceful, and stable china. we want china to do well. >> laura: well -- [laughs] after they share notes? today passed notes along? it's crazy. so what did america get out of china's inclusions into the wto? millions and millions of manufacturing jobs. intellectual property lift dominic ripped off left and right. meanwhile, china broken promises to let foreign banks participate in there -- you know, and all of their own business. they undervalue their currency. they got huge margins for years. you think that would upset the titans of all streetlight former goldman sachs ceo, right? >> china's rise obviously is important for china, but support for everybody in the world. i think china's leadership has proved in its competence over the last couple of decades. >> laura: well, at least he defended trump's tariffs last, but that was after he had left

his position at goldman where he had a financial interest in playing nice. all these years later after all the trade abuses, all that intellectual property theft, all the market manipulation, the provocations in the south china sea, with the continued to ddo to terrorize taiwan, the world health organization carried you would think that the politicians in both parties, especially the ones who will be the party standard-bearers in 2020, that they would be very clear eyed now about the china threat we face. >> china is going to eat our lunch. come on, man. i mean -- you know, they're not bad folks, folks. but guess what? they're not competition for us. >> china is not a problem. if we invest in remember who we are. >> laura: not our problem at all. look around, joe. look at what happened to america over the last four weeks. we lost all of our job gains

since the last of course recession. now it's time for china to enter the forefront of the american political conversation. and if you see someone denying what china has done to america, our workers, our people, now our health with the way they handle this virus, ask yourself, what's in it for them? you can usually find the answer pretty quickly. my next guest says he wanted to convene a public intel hearing on the china threat but he was derailed by mr. impeachment himself, adam schiff, who wanted to talk about, well, you guessed it, russia. congers men devin nunes joins us now. congressman, take us through what happened with schiff. >> well, all during -- actually on the house intelligence committee, the republicans have been running an investigation into china since 2011. we were actually the first to announce that we had a 5g problem. we talked about the problems.

we continued that all through 2015 and 16 and then lo and behold donald trump was elected and we were continuing it into 2017. that's when the democrats decided that they wanted to play with like the russian nesting dolls all the time. and we convened a series of hearings, but the hearings got hijacked and they began to subpoena this russian agent, that russian agent. and they blew the whole thing apart. and so we actually did submit a classified report to the administration last congress, the republicans did. we continue to run our own investigation, because the democrats, you know, they're too busy playing i would say russian roulette with the chinese. they don't take it seriously. >> laura: we have some video, congressman, of that hearing they are referencing, watch. >> before we turn to the subject of the challenge posed by china, there is another issue that our committee members wish to raise. concerning more approximate

threat from russia. what took place during the private to our meeting that the president had alone with mr. putin? >> laura: what's the more approximate threat now to our country, congressman? is it russia, russia, russia, or is it what china has done and specifically now with this virus and all the economic damage that came before? >> the sad truth of all of this, laura, is that the obama administration wanted to be friends with russia. we had warned that russia was causing some problems. at the same time we are investing in china, but nobody cared about russia on the democratic side until donald trump was elected and remember, this was because of the clinton campaign working with dirty cops. everybody knows the story. they went with that narrative, the media went with that narrative and still to this day, none of the media have actually apologized where now it's pretty clear, which i've been saying this for three and a half years, it wasn't the trump administration that was attempting to collude with

russians. it in fact was the democratic party colluding with russians. >> laura: and, congressman, they knew that this thing was not a case. they knew this in january of 20 -- the news that just came out. january of 2017, excuse me. they knew this thing shouldn't have gone forward. and they kept it up anyway. that's the obscene thing of what they did to president trump. who was just about to be inaugurated. they knew this was phony. >> right. they knew it was phony, the fbi knew it was phony. when mueller walks in the door for the special counsel, he looked for russians. there is no russians there for bob mueller to even look at. so there's a lot going on, but you fast-forward to today, just to talk about the china threat. as the coronavirus was building, you know, we are busy with impeachment. so this is just a few months ago. the democrats are impeachment, they're doing their walks to the

capital, giving away patents. you know, it's really disturbing and we republicans have been warning about this threat for a very long time. and you know, it seems like there should be some bipartisan support for it now, but you know, it's just not happening right now. >> laura: one would think. the president has got to seriously consider at the end of all of this how china pays, whether they should be even a member of the wto, whether we should be members. there's a lot to think about here, but congressman -- >> i think that's an import question, whether we should be involved or not. >> laura: the same with the w.h.o., maybe we should just get out of the w.h.o. and the w tl and make our own way forward. thank you so much, congressman, great to see you. governor andrew cuomo claims to be, well, a beacon of something. well, we will tell you when we come back. and spray... and spray. well, we used to. with new ortho home defense max indoor insect barrier,

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♪ >> laura: it is time for the last bite. governor andrew cuomo praising his state political morality. >> new yorkers will do the right thing. what is the right thing? there is always the right thing. it is the appropriate pass that is socially and morally correct. and new yorkers have a very strong, right thing portion. they know what the right thing is when they hear it.

>> laura: welcome i hope so but did you forget lawmakers in your state did this after decriminalizing partial-birth abortion? >> the bill has passed. [applause] [cheers and applause] >> laura: was that the right thing? that is all the time we have shannon bream, "fox news @ night" take it from here, shannon. >> shannon: it is a busy night, laura, thank you so much. you are among the millions who have been staying at home for weeks. wondering when will light appear at the end of the tunnel. today the president outlined the data driven markers and timeline to some of the country back up and running sooner than you might expect. but easily been those decisions up to your governor. so who goes first? what do the new guidelines mean for you and our country's economy? the leasee split along partisan