>> sandra: one big piece of news here, he is issuing an executive order directing all private and public labs to now work together in coordination with the state department of health to increase our testing. so, really interesting developments coming out of new york. ed, great to be with you on a friday morning. have a wonderful weekend. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: fox news alert, growing pushback against stay-at-home orders amid the coronavirus pandemic as governors are grappling with when and how to reopen their states. less than an hour from right now, people in minnesota are set to hold a protest at the state capital. after people in kentucky are expected to rally against research in there today. and in michigan, where demonstrators stormed the state capital or this week. governor gretchen whitmer now faces at least two federal lawsuits against her stay-at-home order, which includes a ban on visits to friends or relatives.

governor whitmer, again, is defending the move. >> if it makes people feel better, to take their frustration out on me, that's fine. all i ask is let's not get -- let's focus on the public health. i'm the governor for almost 10 million people. i represent and want to protect every one of them, whether they supported me or not. >> harris: and the president yesterday announced new guidelines on reopening the economy, in three phases, and told governors the calls, though, at the end, are theirs to make. you are watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, melissa francis. new york city and fox news contributor, dr. nicole saphier. veteran war correspondent and host of "no agenda" on fox nation, lera logan is here. joining us today, fox news chief political anchor and anchor an executive editor of "special report," bret baier. he is "outnumbered" and outstanding in the field of

reporting as he's bringing us a lot of breaking news out of china these days. great to see you, bret and everybody. let's start with are the numbers are today. we saw a pop nationally. dr. saphier, i know that here on the east coast, when you see those numbers go back a little bit, we will be told, "well, there's a lot of people in the hospital at the end of their expectancy for life on a ventilator." is that the case all over the country? why are we seeing that number pop? >> dr. saphier: so, that's a great question, harris. the truth is we can't just look at single day numbers, specifically at one institution or one state or even across the country. we really want to look at them in an average. as you mentioned, what we called the epicenter originally in new york city is very different than other places in the country. one, we have a denser population here in new york city, but also you have a virus actually in the city before it was in other places in the country. a lot of places are going to be on very different timelines, which is why the president was adamant that the timelines of

these phases for reopening has to be on a state-by-state basis. i encourage people to not get caught up in the numbers. the good news is the majority of places that have been hot spots for the last few weeks are seeing a decline in hospitalization ands, and the necessity for icu beds. we are not overwhelmed. in fact, there are available icu beds come available ventilators, which was a huge concern a couple weeks ago. we will continue to see fluctuating numbers of deaths, that is not so black-and-white. when someone comes off the ventilator, it's not that at day 21 everyone will come off the ventilators. some will come off at day 14, some will come off at day 24. it varies. you may see a few more deaths one day or a few fewer deaths in the next day. we are looking at overall trends to give us an idea of how things are going. >> harris: i want to put some other numbers up on the screen that we are concentrating on today. that is that two-thirds of americans are worried that the reopen of public activity might

be too quick for them. if we can put that up there, we can take a look. not too quickly, not quickly enough for them, 32%. too quickly, 66%. two-thirds of people are worried we are not to cancel enough. bret, what do you make of that? >> bret: i make of it that people are scared. people are scared about what's going to happen. people are scared about the possibility of the virus coming back. that is a real challenge. no matter what governors in individual states decide, it's people who go to restaurants, people who go to businesses. i think still a big question here is testing and where we are. the president saying now it's the governors and the states' responsibility to figure out the testing, but collectively, as a nation, we just don't have the numbers of tests. not only the original test or the fast test, but the antibody test, in great numbers. until we do, there might not be that confidence. not only from the public, but

also from businesses worried about their liabilities. >> harris: you know, it's so interesting, as you hear the governors talking they are kind of on the same page with each other and with the president on how to get things done, bret. but you're right, the sticking point continues to be the lack of testing. the president has asked about it almost -- >> bret: we don't, other than him saying it's the state's job. it's a different message than what we heard from the rose garden a month ago when we have the companies come out, and they were going to have testing in the parking lot, all those ceos were saying things that could happen. that changed. how that opening goes really will depend on how the states do it. i do think those numbers about unemployment at 22 million filing, small businesses, that fund being dried up, really has to get addressed. capitol hill is going to have to do with it quickly.

>> harris: wow. those are words that we usually don't see a lot of action after we say them. let's hope that congress people can get it together. larry logan, i want to talk to you about the protesting we had a reporter on the ground live yesterday. actually it was on the back of a truck, keeping 6 feet away or more. in michigan. now we are seeing minnesota, we are seeing kentucky. as you look at that poll brett and i were talking about, 66% of people, and that is one poll. they are saying they are afraid this may come too soon. where do you put these people? do they not have the same fear, or are their fears about the economy just bigger, do you think? >> lara: well, you're right, harris. a lot of it depends on your particular circumstances and your position on civil liberties versus public health. because nobody wants people dying, but at the same time, if you are pregnant with twins and

you have no income and you are about to lose your home, you are one of those people who is going to be pushing more to go back to work. especially if you're not in a high risk category. and it's a very individual thing. if you look at this country, what goes to the heart of everything in this country? what goes to the heart of the constitution and the functioning of this democracy? civil liberties. to say on the one hand that there is no reason to protest this, there is no reason to look at this, there's no reason to stand up and assert your rights, is to sort of deny, for many people, it's a denial of what's at the height of what it is to be american. especially when you start to go and religious liberties. and people's right to support their families, their ability to support their families. one of the issues here that is not really being discussed as much as the risk of going back too quickly is the risk and what you are putting people through

long term from the damage from the economy. no one is really drilling down on what that's going to look like, and what people i've spoken to, a number of people, but they are concerned about is that when they are evicted there isn't going to be anyone giving out bailout money. there is going to be a nationwide response where everybody is paying attention to your individual needs, right? you're on your own again. that's what is driving some of this for some people. they feel like they are going to be left with nothing down the road. they're going to watch their children starve. i've spoken to people who said, "do you know what it's like for your child to be crying for food and are not able to feed them? do you know what that's like? what would you be prepared to do?" it becomes very personal personal question in the end, for how badly affected you are by this. and how at risk are you? for example, i live in a small town in texas.

there's been no cases here. the hospital is almost empty. everyone is idling, sitting there, idly waiting for people to come in. i just spoke to a local doctor who has said that never in all of the years has he had so few patients. everyone is staying home. this is one of the bubbles, there are many of them outside the highly populated areas, where the epidemic is very different. >> harris: let me scoot this in on you. i understand that. we can almost look to south dakota as one of those. i used to live in that part of the country, and those areas are remote, what you are describing. some of the safety and the lower numbers might also be coupled with -- just a suggestion, because people are actually following the guidelines that president trump set out. they are just looking to their local and state. they are listening to the present who said, "might be a good idea to wear a mask if you go out." not sure if he would do it, he said he probably wouldn't. but if you're in an area where

you can't keep 6 feet away, might want to think about that. national guidelines for social distancing. that sort of thing. so you may be a beneficiary, even in a small area, of people making a bigger decision. it's just something to put out there. you know, melissa, as in looking down at these numbers, the third phase of the process of reopening has to do with restaurants and gyms, religious venues, and those are all areas where people gather. as we've been talking about, "should we be concerned that we actually have a backslide if people don't continue to follow the baseline guidelines when they're out?" we are looking some video now. masks on these people that we are watching. >> melissa: yeah, i'm with lara. i think i'm more concerned about people starving and about families that can't buy food at this point. in the last hour, we were talking about the testing that needs to happen. there was the senator from

georgia on in the last hour who said that china is holding up a lot of the tests. i wonder where she's getting that information. if that is the case, that's one of the reasons why we are not getting back on our feet here, because we don't have the testing. if they have any hand in that, after everything that has happened, that would be really outrageous. >> harris: what would we do? >> melissa: the second thing is -- i don't know. that's not up to me. governor cuomo saying we need to stabilize the finances of the state. the state is being starved of income. welcome to our world. that's what's happening to everyone, and now he is finally saying, "i'm being forced to write checks against an empty bank account." how about all of america that's doing that right now, governor? as he continues to keep things close, in places where maybe it's not necessary, people are facing massive financial hardship. it was very rich to me to hear him talking about how, "oh, my gosh," he's trying to write

checks and he has an mg bank account, how outrageous is that can make the federal government needs to come help him. that's what's happening to every family in every business owner in the state of new york. it's a massive problem, and i don't think we should put the economic problem off much long longer. >> harris: you know, lara, i agree with you in the sense that people have to get at least somewhat vocal to say what their position is. it's really interesting. you are very open about where you live and what you are facing. i guess my observation, based on the guidelines, would be "great, as long as people stick by them when they're outside and can't be 6 feet apart." gosh, it's a lot to watch. glad we are all together. >> lara: i would say you're right that people everywhere are beneficiaries of these policies, and people here certainly recognize that and they are takintaking it very, very serio. but it's the extreme nature of the restrictions that raises the

most concern when you speak to people. that you have emptied city streets, that you've closed down so many businesses. that is so much of the economy paralyzed. what people want to know is how long it takes, not just to recover from the virus, how long would it take to recover from a worldwide depression? not a recession. we are heading straight for a worldwide depression. >> harris: i hear you. again, glad we are together, even though we are apart, but together, to talk about it all. china radically is revising its covid-19 death toll amid intense scrutiny of the response to the outbreak. whether lawmakers should take swift action to hold beijing accountable for it all. >> window that there's been misinformation and disinformation coming out of cha from day one. that's finally coming to the surface. ♪ if your gums bleed when you brush you may have gingivitis.

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♪ >> melissa: china, raising the coronavirus death toll by nearly 50% today, in the city where the outbreak began. this, after weeks of accusations that the chinese officials were under reporting their account. beijing confirming nearly 1300 previously unreported deaths in wuhan, bringing the death toll there to more than 3800. state media says initial numbers were off because medical facilities were overwhelmed with patients and made reporting errors. yesterday we reported fox news sources have increasing confidence that sloppy handling let the virus escape a wuhan laboratory last december.

u.s. intel analysts say they will look into that lab as lawmakers weigh possible action against china. >> if nothing else, hopefully it's a wake-up call to the world, ed, about how they operate, the lack of transparency, the censorship of journalists, and it's going to take, i think, a global international response to hold them accountable. i think there are lots of ways in which you could do that. obviously it's something the president has put on his agenda. >> harris: bret, you done some great reporting on this. i want to start with you. where does this stand right now with this lab? >> bret: this investigation is continuing. it's not conclusive, the intel. they have more and more dots, both open source and classified, pointing to the slab. u.s. intelligence has ruled out that china was using the lab or that this virus came as a result of an effort to get a bio weapon. the reason in part that they do that is by the genetic code

mapping of the virus itself. it does not appear to be genetically altered. it was natural in its transition. there is more and more evidence pointing to this lab, and the work done and that lab with coronavirus, backed by a doctor who had been working on antivirals and efforts to stop a virus. also the doctor done my concerns about that lab that go back a couple years. mike pompeo was asked about this again, on a radio show. he said, "we know that the first sightings of this occurred within miles of the wuhan institute of virology. we know the history of this facility. the first lab where there is high and virus research being conducted took place at that site. we know the chinese communist party, when it began way to evaluate what to do inside of wuhan, consider whether that site was in fact the place where this came from. most importantly, we know that they have not permitted the

world scientists to go into that laboratory to evaluate what took place there. what's happening there, with happening there even as we speak? even as we are on this show this morning, we have not had western access to that facility so we can properly evaluate what really has taken off all across the world and how that began." that is this morning. you are seeing this evolution of u.s. officials talking about this. but there is 100% confidence about china's efforts to cover this up at the beginning, and what that meant for the rest of the world. also, the w.h.o.'s complicity were looking the other way, however you want to characterize it here that is why there is such focus on the w.h.o., as well. >> harris: lara, why does it feel like the rest of the world isn't outraged abot this? what do we actually do about it? >> lara: [laughs] well, it is very interesting, your question. as a journalist, a sort of had

the feeling that there is a lot we still don't know about this virus. it's very difficult to gauge with the chinese all along the way, how much information you still have about what really happened. if you look at it, i'm sure, bret, you probably talk to pompeo and others about this. they don't look at this just in isolation about the virus. with they're also looking at is the reports of activity at chinese nuclear testing sites. and there are other indicators that u.s. intelligence is watching right now. there are various communication channels. obviously, they have a vast collection network looking into what the chinese is doing, right across the spectrum. i have spoken to a number of different intelligence sources who have said that they are particularly concerned. not just about china, but about what other countries and what other partners china may have in order to exploit and take advantage of the situation.

it's obvious that the united states, one of the world's most important economy, has taken a massive hit. while that presents instability and terrible trouble for the u.s., it provides an opportunity for u.s. enemies, and for those countries that have a vested interest in seeing the power of the u.s. decline. we are moving into that space. u.s. intelligence is also watching, of course, the iranians. of course the russians. of course the relationships between those countries. those indicators right now are not good. people didn't pay a lot of attention to what happened in norad just recently, within the u.s. moving assets into that region. there are reports that are not confirmed but some u.s. intelligence officials have said they've heard, that there were missiles fired by the iranians in that general area. there is concern and there is -- there are a lot of u.s. eyes

trained on what is happening strategically around the world right now. speaking >> melissa: dr. saphier, i'vehen the past 24 hours saying that china went around the world and "vacuumed up" the ppe around the world. this applies, before anybody had an any idea what was going on. we heard a senator in the last hour say that they were hanging onto the critical components, the reagents, for those testing kits. what does that mean, and health terms, if these accusations are true? >> dr. saphier: well, melissa, all of these reports coming out about how china is acting on it was surprising at this point. they are even threatening they were holding up the medications we need to pay not only to take over 19, but other common illnesses here in the united states. it's been back-to-back informatiomissinformation, misst

has led us to where we are right now. they withheld information, it was borderline fraudulent information that they were even being put. there is the misreporting, and that's why the numbers might be changing, which is why i don't think we should focus on a single day number. absolutely not, you cannot increase your number of deaths by 50%, winamp reporting zero deaths for a long time and then you have this big increase? absolutely not. they are trying to hide what was going on there, trying to protect themselves. to the detriment of the rest of the world. one of the things going back to the laboratory people are talking about, you have to remember -- here in the united states, we were going to the highest standard of care. we have such high quality expectations for our laboratories and other health care systems, which sometimes can be our achilles' heel because we have so much red tape. we do that because he want to keep our workers and communities safe. if it is proven this came from that lab, whether it's a lab error, who knows? they do not live by the same

standards that we do here in the united states. unfortunately, because of that, the way they have continued to act, not just this pandemic to the previous pandemic that originated there, that's why we are suffering. you have to get back to the place we are not dependent on that government for anything. whether it's medication or medical supplies, really anything at this point. we are suffering because of their actions. >> melissa: they certainly have a lot to answer for. thank you. more "outnumbered" in just a moment. we'll be right back. for nearly 100 years, we've worked to provide you with the financial strength, stability, and online tools you need. and now it's no different. because helping you through this crisis is what we're made for. balanced nutrition for strength and energy. whoo-hoo! great tasting ensure with 9 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients to support immune health.

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♪ >> melissa: many of the small businesses sidelined by coronavirus will have to wait until at least next week to get some relief funding, as democrats and republicans squabble over new funding for

the payment protection program. senate republicans tried to add $250 billion more last week after an initial $350 billion set aside quickly ran dry. but democrats blocked it, saying they want more money for national testing and health hospitals. here is chuck schumer. >> i can't see why we can't come to agreement soon pay the present was even more positive about coming to an agreement last night in his press conference. it is vital we do this. it's vital to help small business. if we don't deal with the testing and health care problems, if we don't deal with the local government problems, small business may have enough money to get back -- although we've got to fix that program -- but people won't get back out on the streets. >> melissa: mitch mcconnell and the republicans are now accusing the democrats of playing games with the american people. >> i tried to pass a clean funding bill. senate democrats blocked it. so, here's where we are.

a week later, with absolutely no progress. >> melissa: bret, you know, you're up to the minute on this reporting. how much pressure is there on lawmakers? >> bret: intensified. democrats realize that this is really not a political place they want to be, and negotiations after that pressure intensified have been more successful. the breaking news is they have a big picture on another funding mechanism. this is short of a phase for big coronavirus bill. this is to replenish the ppe with $250 billion, to do some of the funding chuck schumer talked about, for hospitals, specifically. local governments. there is another sba program, melissa, that is not talked about. there were $7 billion originally put aside for small businesses

to apply for $10,000. well, 5 million small businesses applied for that. they only had $7 billion. you do the math. that's $500 million. i mean, billion dollars. so they were a couple programs they believed they could get through the details over the weekend, and monday or tuesday have a unanimous consent to replenish these programs as kind of the stopgap. >> melissa: harris, i've talked to small business owners every day. just this morning, i was talking to someone who was right there in line to get the money and had been in the process, had been in the queue, and was told they were about to get the funding, before it ran dry. could you imagine the disappointment? having told your employees that you were going to bring them back, that you the money? >> harris: i think we can all imagine that. somebody close to some of us must be working for their own

small businesses. they up two-thirds of the hiring in the united states. we can't imagine, we can look outside our own doors. lara was mentioning it's almost ghost town, even in the areas that have not been hit as hard yet covid-19. here on the east coast, melissa, we can look out. fifth avenue is a ghost town. there are places where you just don't see people, and you know how it works. yes, you may see some named stores, but particularly here, we have a crush of people. we have so many of those small businesses, mom-and-pop type restaurant businesses. also, supplying things like charges for your phone. the kind of catchall stores that pop up in new york and stay for years because they are in the right place, where people always need those things by the millions. and new york never sleeps. that sort of thing. just use that as an example. if you fan out across the united states, now you are interrupting not just people's

dreams and aspirations and innovations, but supply chain. small business also supplies us with some things. so, yeah, it's not something we want to imagine, that reality is definitely there. i wanted to follow up with a question for bret. as they talk about whatever this next phase is going to be -- and i know they are careful not to call it phase 4, whatever -- bret, the ball keeps moving. there are places that keep extending their lockdowns, which puts more and more pressure on these businesses. how can they gas with the magic numbers are going to be? >> bret: they can't, this is a rolling thing. it's like nothing we've ever seen before. there is no talk about concerned about the deficit or debt. these numbers keep coming in, they keep getting increased. so you don't have concerns from anybody on capitol hill about those numbers. the emergency aspect of this is moving the ball. the question is negotiating for these things. one of the things was this original unemployment funding

that gave more money. so there are some portion of the 22 million who filed for unemployment who are actually making more unemployment than they are making at their jobs, and that is a concern that they have to deal with long term. right now, all of that is not factoring into the decision-making on what those numbers look like. >> lara: and i will say -- >> melissa: dr. saphier -- >> lara: when you were talking to business leaders versus politicians, they are very concerned about how much money is being put aside. what they say is, "we are still going to pay for that. whether you pay for it now or you pay for long term, or whether -- generations will pay for this. whenever you put money aside, somebody still has to pay for it. it doesn't come out of the magic pot." and that is part of the concern about what happens down the line economically.

>> melissa: absolutely. a huge week for 2020 democrat joe biden as he racks up not one, not to, but three major endorsements, showing how much stronger his position is then hillary clinton's was in 2016. is it strong enough? we are going to debate that, next. ♪

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presidential election, and presumptive democratic nominee joe biden is scoring three major endorsements this week alone. bernie sanders, his old boss, former president barack obama, and elizabeth warren. the early endorsement put biden in a stronger position than hillary clinton was four years ago when bernie did not endorse her until the summer. this, as current polling from real clear politics shows biden defeating president trump in several key swing states. still, president trump as a massive campaign war chest of daily exposure with his coronavirus task force briefings, and more unprecedented access. meanwhile, biden says he has already begun putting together a transition team, admitting it may seem presumptuous but adding that some republicans have offered to serve in a biden administration. bret baier, fact-check that for me. it's early. >> bret: very early.

yeah, but it's part of this effort to try and shore things up in the party. both with getting progressives on their side the biden team, but also with money. there is, as you mention, the big disparity between the biden campaign and the trump campaign, cash on hand, what they have going. also, unjust air time. if you look at just the social media numbers, there was a study about president trump's twitter followers and facebook and youtube, and social media overall, compared to joe biden. and it's exponential. breaking through in this covid-19 time has been tough for joe biden, even as we head toward the convention. >> harris: so, just specifically, on which republicans? can we see receipts? we are watching a president right now who enjoys north of 90% of republican support. i would imagine, bret, that includes lawmakers, not just

citizens, when you look at that polling. who are these republicans? are they still serving? who are these people that are going to jump on a biden bandwagon, particularly this early in the game? we haven't even got to the conventions yet, virtual or otherwise. >> bret: i don't know. it would be helpful if the biden people put out names, or if those people came forward and said they support joe biden. who knows? you can imagine a b mitt romney is upset that he's not on that commission to reopen the government. who knows? but we don't have names. >> harris: all right. behind logan, i come to you on this. you always break it down so very simply, how people are feeling. do you think people are really thinking about this? which makes it difficult for joe biden to break through. you've got to be relevant to the moment. you can come out with a plan, i suppose. do you have something to reopen the economy? is what people are looking at. >> lara: without a doubt, everyone you talk to, that is the number one question.

we have never expensed anything like that. you have a lot of people at home with a lot of time on their hands. there's a moment to capitalize on here. one thing across the media, joe biden's health. no one has ever seen a presidential candidate who has as much difficulty as he is having at the moment. honestly sometimes on a personal level i feel it's almost painful. you wonder what's going on with that. this is not a partisan thing. that can be a partisan thing in the media. it's definitely not a partisan thing that is happening a lot of the time that he's out there. >> harris: i'm going to cut in for just a second, because we happen to have an actual doctor among us. when i hear you say that, lara, i almost wanted to give just a couple seconds -- and we don't

have much -- to dr. saphier. i'm not a doctor, you are not, but you are, dr. saphier. >> dr. saphier: i hesitate discussing anyone's health that i don't actually treat. when it comes to joe biden, i know there's criticism. people questioning whether he suffering from some level of dementia, parkinson's, alzheimer's, who knows? the truth is we are not all as good of an oar read or as some. whether he is just having difficulty without the technological support, because he's having to do everything at home so he's just not that great at giving speeches, or if he does have some underlying cognitive defect, i don't know. time will tell. he has a certain age, so it's possible that a level of dementia has set in. listen to him does not instill confidence in me as a citizen, as a health care worker, and i do not look to him as someone who will get us through not only this pandemic but just the future to come. >> harris: all right. to bring this conversation to another day. thank you all. as the coronavirus pandemic grinds the country, and much of

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>> harris: fresh for a friday encouragement. in the push for a coronavirus treatment looking promising after a board that an drug is showing promise in a clinical trial, with patients seeing rapid recoveries from respiratory symptoms and fever. a university of chicago infectious disease specialist said this. "the best news is that most of our patients have already been discharged, which is great. we've only had two patients perish." remdesivir is the verb. or rather, the drugs. i want to go to dr. saphier on this. why are we seeing some promising that it might be a verb one day if it really works well. >> dr. saphier: [laughs] right? remdesivir was one of the first antivirals that started making chatter early in january and february. this is medication that was developed for the ebola crisis in 2013.

they started looking at this. what have we been saying this entire time? it's going to take us time until we figure out what works and what doesn't work. although this is -- this isn't even necessarily anecdotal evidence, have no idea what the specifics are of it. it was very encouraging to hear, even though it's a leaked report, some positive outcomes with the use of this medication. this is an antiviral therapy. just think about the successes we've had with other antiviral therapies in terms of hiv and hepatitis b and hepatitis c. we know antivirals work with viral infections. so i can only hope that, as the data actually comes out of certain studies, that it will show not only is the safety using people but also it's extremely helpful in the severity of the illness. this isn't necessarily something we would give to prevent infection, but what we need to do right now and potential future waves of this illness is figure out how we can treat people so they don't wind up in

the icu, so they don't wind up in the ventilator. we have a lot of studies going on. we have a huge amount of private industry mixed with our public industry, starting these clinical trials. a lot of them in new york and across the country. even across the globe, that are looking at various medications. to see what's going to work best. it is very encouraging. >> harris: you heard the governor of new york sang yesterday at his press conference, if you want to do any of your lab testing or whatever you want to do, just come to new york. his doors open for that. remdesivir is something we had heard early on. hydroxychloroquine, and the mix with azithromycin also something. those are different. dr. saphier, what category would you put kind of what we need to do next in? what order? which ones we ought to take a look at if we have to pick one, in a certain order? >> dr. saphier: here's the thing, when you talk about hydroxychloroquine and is it for

my sin, those are fda approved medications paid they been useds to treat other illnesses. they been proven safe. they have low risk profiles prayer that doesn't mean they have zero risk whatsoever. remdesivir is not fda approved, so it has not been in use. we don't know the safety profile of it as well as we do these other medications. so we are going to keep an eye on both of them. right now we have to use what we have more data on. although we don't have the data as to whether it is quite effective for treating this illness. still, anecdotal reports are encouraging, as well, for those. >> harris: we are going to scoot to a commercial. thank you all. more "outnumbered" next. for a b, but you're not alone. we're automatically refunding our customers a portion of their personal auto premiums. learn more at libertymutual.com/covid-19. [ piano playing ] eh, not enough fiber- chocolate would be good- snacking should be sweet and simple.

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uncovers nt for. tell us what you found >> lara: well, what's really interesting is when you actually look at what antifa, with their manifesto is, what they believe in, they present themselves as being antifascist, but they don't believe in press freedom and they don't believe in all the kinds of freedoms you would normally associate with who are against fascism. much of that platform is very similar to fascism. the one journalist who has been really digging down into this and doing more reporting on it than anyone else, and has been brutally beaten by antifa and left with a brain hemorrhage, he is the one journalist whose credibility is questioned. no one is really taking the time to understand what the group is really about and what the cost is to us if the press in general gives the extreme radical left a free pass. so that's one of the topics we

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