mob. hey, nancy, go back to work i'll send all the expensive ice cream you can eat. toan be honest, you've never missed an episode, grateful to our country, like you're not het not be troubled here is laura ingraham. ♪ >> laura: i'm laura ingraham, this is "the ingraham angle," now we're going to examine the shifting goalposts from thein meaning of flattening the curve, remember that? to whether we should wear masks in public. how can the public be confident in what they are hearing from the health officials if things keep changing? how do you explain the huge disparity in the cases and mortality in new york versus california. two highly respected doctors in each of those states will tell us. also tonight, what will the bar heand restaurant experience be n

the other side of that? jon taffer of our rescue, love that show, is here with some insight and tips. and joe biden's media appearances have not inspired a heck of a lot of confidence in raymond arroyo is here for "friday folly." the first, my thoughts at the end of day 32 if you can believe it, america and shut down. now, more covid-19 data keeps pouring inn from across the globe, many key questions remain unanswered. now, the answers to the questions are going to tell us how lethal the virus turned out to be and whether mutations affected its virulence and whether government shutdowns really work. and finally, how should we proceed going forward? now, first we have to remember that much of what we were told about this virus at the outset turned out to be wrong. of course, china lied about its origins and engaged in a massive

virus cover up. with, of course, the healt helpe world health organization. >> this could have spent shut down and they knew it and we couldn't get in and in all fair, the world health couldn't get in and i wish they took a difference - stands and they tok a very pathetic and weak stance but they could not get in. ultimately, they got in much sooner than anybody but they didn't report what was happening. they didn't report whatt was happening and no, i'm not happy with china. >> laura: trillions of global wealth and thousands and thousands of people have died as a result. even now, the communist regime is not giving up what we need. >> do we have all the data that we want from china? what about the primary data about patient zero and all the key data about the debuts?

>> no, i think now any of us don't feel confident at all that we have all of the data of the originally infected individuals and how long people were in the circulation. even now, how many deaths there really are in china. >> laura: that somewhat a change that dr. fauci said back in february when i asked him a similar question.na >> the w.h.o. has finally got the key people in international group to go over there and so they have eyes, ears, and boots on the ground to be able to look and verify. so, right now, at this point in time i believe those numbers. >> laura: the simple question is this, what is china hiding and why? now, they still haven't complained about patient zero and i've been clamoring about now for the past two months. at this point, we don't know of the origins for sure but china

can't even tell us patient zero's name or anything about the first victim of this virus. we want to know everything about patient zero and we still don't really know about patient zero and china and a lot of the data is being withheld still from the united states. now, today, china revived their numbers of covid deaths in wuhan from 2,579 to up to 3,000, 86979 and increase of 50%. if we believe any of this, but stay on track here. for some reason, few people seem to be asking a lot of different questions that stem from this first origination of the virus. for instance, why new york's covidor death numbers are so hih compared to other cities including china. chinese cities outside of wuhan reand in countries in neighborig china. as of today, new york with 20 million has a staggering 12,192 coronavirus deaths and 63

deaths for every 100,000. now, look at this chart in new york city has seen of course 8,632 deaths or 102 for 100,000 people. yet, and beijing with a population of 18.8 million, it's only reporting eight deaths -- eight deaths total! or .04 per 100,000 people. in shanghai, only reporting seven deaths for .03 deaths per 100,000 and it's three covid deaths or .02 deaths per 100,000. this is totally weird! that such a nice way of putting it. well, beijing shutut down for about ten months in shanghai and tianjin were locked on for many weeks. but before they shut down, millions were allowed to move in and out of wuhan and the greater

providence.. new york will be shot down for at least the same amount of time and all the major chinese cities. again, the disparities in these numbers must be closely examined. when you look around the world, new york city has a higher covid death rate then every country in asia. check out india's numbers, a t country with 1.4 billion people or a country of 330 million people. we have 37,000 deaths. india is reporting 486 deaths. look at japan with only 190 deaths. what about pakistan? 135 deaths. what's going on in these countries? is that lack of testing -- they don't have all the testing that they need to? is the widespread use of antimalarials and some of the

countries play a role? russia closed its border with china pretty fast. was that responsive and russia reports a total of 273 deaths due to the coronavirus. now, if i were andrew cuomo, i would be on the phone with the leaders of all these countries in the major cities that we referenced every day to learn about best practices if those numbers are real? best practices against the virus and somethingmb bizarre is happening. if we took new jersey and new york out of the calculus, the united states would be doing comparatively well and covid deaths. certainly, compared to the hardest hit countries in europe. by the way, there's more revised projections fromha the covid tht models today and remember we were terrified last month to hear numbers like 2.2 million deaths and then someone million and 240,000 americans died and then 100,000. then it was 80,000 to come out last week i guess it back to monday it was 68,000.

and projected deaths due to covid are now at 60,000. by the way, that slightly less fewer people that we lost to pneumonia and influenza in 2017 and 2018. 2017-2018 flu season, those numbers according to the cdc. now remember, we were told we needed to bend the curve in order to prevent our hospitals from being overwhelmed. but it seems that the goalposts have shifted. i warned about this last month. elected officials are now keeping us shut down in order to "defeat the virus." >> we are going to get through this. and we will reengage our country when it's safe but less than we want to do is have a second. >> laura: again, you see what's happening, stop the overwhelming of the hospitals and the noble goal.

that obviously did not happen and came close to happening in new york and new jersey but thankfully did not happen and moved around resources allowed to make sure it was not overwhelming. but this is all extremely confusing and frustrating into millions of americans, it's really demoralizing because they are glad the numbers are down, they're glad the hospitals aren't overwhelmed. they are mourning the people who lost their lives, loved ones, family friends and it's devastating. devastating!g! but they're also seeing their world collapsing around them and the continuing shut down. there are far too many unanswered questions tonight. too much about this doesn't make sense. an insistence of mostly liberal governors to keep states closed that have had comparatively low rates of mortality and that never came close to swamping the health care system. it's just pushing people to the brink.ty we are going to keep asking questions. those are my thoughts at the end of day 32.

america in shut down. joining me now are two doctors who've been speaking a lot about the regional disparity in the coronavirus outbreak. dr. neal elattrache is the sports medicine director at the medical center and is also a team physician for the l.a. dodgers and the rams and dr. george syros who is the director of cardiology operation at mount sinai queens in his doctor, because you're in such a hot spot in queens, i want to start with you and you recently wrote a piece suggesting that the airports are a big part of the explosion and queens and a lot off the workers the airports a lot of uber drivers, a lot of people who live in close quarters with many people in apartments. but why cities with huge airport tmhubs and crowded conditions tn asia and densely populated not see the same troubling numbers as new york? thoughts. >> first of all, thank you for having me and to be honest with

you are not so suree about the account whether or not there is the recording of cases and diaths is very accurate. if new york is a western country and we are extremely good in documenting all the cases and watching mortality very carefully. now, new york is very unique and particularly queens and having unique and why is that? number one, it's that we are close to jfk and there's no other place in the united states that harbors huge major airports like jfk in the same vicinity. this is between the airports and so this, i think, played a particular role in inoculating the disease. i believe that many governors, travelers came there were undiagnosed and spread the disease like fire quickly. the reason queens suffered so much is because of the unique

specifics. >> laura: doctor, queens gote hit and the airport hubs got hit, but doctor, we had the first wave really of china coming into california. and it's a lot of viruses around california. a lot of close quarters, a lot of people and obviously 40 million people. but, it'srt over 1,000 deaths compared to new york, 12,000 deaths. half the population. thoughts? hold on, doctor, go ahead. >> there's a lot that we don't know regarding those statisticsk and you and many others have been pointing out that we really don't know the denominator unfortunately, the modeling and what we know the statistics of what's happening both in los angeles and new york we know that unfortunate part of the numerator, the number of deaths we don't know the death rate. we know the number of deaths and

so a lot of the models that we are using extrapolates and is based on the number of deaths which is only one part of the calculation we have no idea what the denominator is. we're trying to figure out what the difference is and how the virus is behaving between a place like california or los angeles and new york. we don't even know the correct data let alone the science of how the virus is behaving and what kind of mutations there are and how it might be different. we don't have the correct data so i think the doctor is right on with seeing that this is a big blind spot that we have.oc >> laura: it's a big differential now, i mean, it's massive and a ten fold differential the coasts. which means it leaves a lot of people to asking questions about genetic mutations of the virus and doctor, given the fact that it might be a little different between the coast it will take a lot more testing. but dr. syros, very quickly,

concerned about "nonessential surgeries" not being done now in the covid hospitals that are seen cancellations of surgeries and a lot of patience and revenue. very quick. >> we discussed the frustration and the population density is very big and so different population compared to queens and the other coast. regarding the nonessential surgeries, it's an issue and to personally experience the electoral physiologist we have a lot of patients that remain home that remain home with a lot of issues and we can do anything about it so there's a concern in the community about this. how do we tackle this? >> laura: okay, or going back to dr. elattrache because your screen is -- dr. elattrache, i want to this county insc california issue because nowow

they have only 1833 confirmed covid cases. they have 69 deaths, there mortality rate is 3.8%. but that's already -- lower, and stanford released a new study today that found a higher prevalence of covid antibodies in the county and they say it could be from 50 to 80 times more people infected than they thoughts. they've already been infected, and most of them have gone on with their lives and so that means the mortality rate, dr. elattrache, would probably come down significantly given the wide spread of this virus over many weeks. thoughts? >> you know, laura, this illustrates a age-old medical adage that this virus is seeingu a lot more than we have seen and the problem here is that it goes back to the data.

you know, if we are using data that has such a big error rating and we are using the data to help guide social behavior -- and in my case, medical behavior -- and such an enormous error they were not going to be able to appropriately take care of the people that were supposed to be taken care of. and so we need much better analysis of the data. what we have done in addition to daily input from our major medical systems to see what impact this virus is having on our community to help guide the medical behavior, we've also reached out to data analytics people and we been working with a group of people which is an offshoot of caltech ritual analytics that uses artificial intelligence built into the calculations that it self corrects, it machine learns. the calculation rather than being based on the number of deaths is based on continuing analysis of statistics. so it corrects itself as you go and continue so it gets better, and better, and better and what

we seerr is using these types of calculations, the error rate in the typical calculation being used from the university of washington that are being used to model behavior and guide behavior is a five to six times more -- higher error rating than the current calculations that we are using. so i think that the more we learnha about this, the more we learn how to analyze the data the better were going to be able to guide -- >> laura: dr. elattrache,ar right, what we definitely learned is that there is a enormous amounts of people who are not getting any care for other things. you're an orthopedic surgeon, world-renowned and a lot of people aren't doing the hip replacements and the replacements, breast, ndconstruction, breast cancer and i hear all day long from cardiologists and they are not seeing their patients and that has to be taken into account when you look at this covid

issue.hisu all the other people who are being affected, right dr. elattrache? >> absolutely, it's heartbreaking when i hear some of the stories and i have a friend who's a breast reconstructed surgeon and his practice is geared towards reconstructing young women who are affected with a breast cancer. he can't help them. people are desperate and in my profession, people who have been lumped into the big category of people with elective surgery and their livelihoods are being affected by the problems that they have let alone how the outcome is ultimately going to be if these things are delayed. so we as a society have to get n handle on this because we are unfortunately going to be living side-by-side as humans with the virus on this planet for the foreseeable future if not forever to some degree. we don't get better data to handle the problem and control the virus, the virus will control us. >> laura: doctor, thank you so much and coming up a few weeks ago they told us we would not

have to change hernk behaviors. now, most americans are on total lockdown for over a month. the goal posts keep moving and if so, why? we are going to explain. next. ♪

♪ ♪ >> this concern about flattening the curve why don't we talk about that because he don't want to overwhelm the health care system. >> we're simply not equipped to deal, that's why flattening the curve is so important. >> the desire is to not to overwhelm the hospitals and were talking about flattening the curve. >> laura: that's what they're telling us a month ago, flattening the curve, making sure that we don't swap and overwhelm our hospital system.m. so after weeks of socialal distancing, sheltering in place, shutdowns, we have cceeded

even in the hardest hit areas like new york. but now that's not enough were being told. >> we like to see some really steady decreases almost to zero before we start relaxing those social distancing. >>e break the back of the curve of t and bring it down as far as we can and is close to zero and begin responsibly get back on our feet. >> laura: of flattening the h curve has not been the only shift but it's been about our general behavior. >> should we be changing your habits and if so how? >> at this moment, there is no need to change what you're doing on a day-by-day basis. >> circling back to consumers and people are going to be afraid to go out in this virus is going to continue to change our lives until we develop a better set of tools to deal with it. >> laura: and finally, the issue of masks in public. >> those are things that people can do to stay safe and one of the things they should not be doing in the general public is

going out and buying masks. >> wearing a mask is one of theb best things that we can do. if you get on the bus, you need to wear a mask. if you get on the train, you need to wear a mask. >> laura: well, the public needs information they can rely on that's consistent from those who are relying on to keep us safe. if we don't, then you can expect a lot of people getting pretty upside about these lockdowns across the country. because the goalposts shift, well, states all across the country are getting antsy and americans want to get back to work and the governors and states that have largely controlled the outbreak and we didn't see much of an outbreak at all are making plans to just do that. well, texas for example released a rolling timeline for listing coronavirus restrictions on april 20th and reopening state parks on april 22nd and removing

some restrictions on elected surgeries on april 24th, retailo stores can start offering to go services. on april 27th, the governor will unveil more details on things like theaters and restaurants. dan patrick. also marty davis, president and ceo of minnesota's cambria. lieutenant governor, starting with you and critics are saying that you all have the tenth highest number of cases in the country. so why are you ready to get this reopening thing going?he >> well, we are watching, laura, the hospitalization and the death rate and i don't know if i'm exact on the number but i think where the lowest at capital and death and we had 9 million citizens and 1400 deaths as of today. so citizens are doing right and

what we're doing under the millions of people and every life is precious and valuable and we don't diminish this but texans are ready to get back at work. we are rolling out slowly and smartly, and safely and we got to get back to work and do two things back at once and texans are ready to get back and we are leading the way. >> laura: marty, minnesota is a very interesting state for a lot of reasons and i love minnesota. but you comparatively have few covid deathshs thankfully. been able to control this pretty well. yet, you have a pretty serious lockdown employees and somewhat relaxed with golf courses as i understand today that's nice and that's's going to be opening. but people are protesting at the governor mansion and they are saying we are done with the shutdown and they were out there and trumps liberating minnesota, marty, what's going on? >> it's moving fast and we went

out in the shelter and house and we went out 21 days and our governor did a really good job in the last 21 days. just now beginning our state and i think what is happening, it's getting lengthy to consider staying out loud stomach longer. we have to get the kids and the businesses back in school and businesses back to work for sure.s i think what alarmed minnesota was the regional partnership that was created a couple days agosh with michigan, and ohio, d kentucky, and indiana, and wisconsin. i really think that through an alarm towards minnesota citizens and our governor i think iss correct but clarified for us, laura, and they're going to have a learning and a collaboration that are governors governing the state independent with reality on the ground in minnesota. he proved that today by opening up golf courses, opening up the

lakes, fishing, bigger areas for minnesota for that aspect. as well, he opened up sales with takeout that bill and he signed that an hour ago. he's going to turn the corner on that thing. how you come out of it. >> laura: people get ready with that, and dan, people get restless a seat in huntington beach, california, huntington beach and the michigan protest and the pennsylvania state senate say no to the governors and very draconic shut down there. and some people wantnt and the elderly to be protected and may maybe new protocols for a while. but dan come a lot of people concerned p that the new normals they say we have to live in is basically what they always wanted. they wanted fewer cars, you know, they don't like this idea necessarily of these

texans and the football stadiums all the times and there's a lot of people worried that their way of life is just going to go along with the virus. >> well, we will get back i believe with the president's lead in the private sector, will get back to life as it was and we're monitoring the process. people are i getting upset with democrats in congress not showing up to do their job we need the ppp program and laura, i'm a small business person. businesses needn't wear out of money in the funds and if i'm republicans i would show up every day in the senate, in the house and sit at your desk and say we are here to do the people's business. secondly, laura, i'm really tired of nancy pelosi and congress because, you know what, they're not her by this,s, laur, they make $174,000 a year and they have not had their pay cuts they're going nuts and there at home and it's time for them to get back to cut and they have to take a half pay cut and i can speak to that clearly because in texas, our senators and house

members, and myself make $600 a month. we work $50 a week and tenth largest economy we meet everywhere, it's time for congress to take a pay cut and so they feel some of the pain that people at home are feeling because congress isn't feeling any pain. the people in the small businesses are so get back to work and cut your pay and show you'rere with us. >> laura: get back to work i've been saying this and i've said this for a month. the state houses all across the country and congress should have had their butts in their offices doing the work of the american people. marty, very quickly, really quickly you have a lot of workers, 900 workers in your plant in minnesota. give me an example of how this is affecting the average worker. >> i'll give you a good example of what the governor just did and i've been a employee calling from l.a. after the mayor put the policies in two days ago and she said, marty, i'm no longer concerned about losing my life

to the virus. i'm concerned about losing the life i've built through the locked around and the restrictions. and she's a working mother with a 13-year-old and a 2-year-old whose work your off her 22 years to trynd to build something up and now she's losing her equity, losing her financial security, and she's losing a lot of the viability of her career, and her future forward financially. and that really puts fear and these people in the streets. >> laura: they want to save their lives, mothers, fathers, small business owners, we are all in this together as americans. we want to protect and save lives but we want to save our way of life. i've w never liked the phrase te "new normal" and i've never like that phrase because if we portends something's coming down the road long after the virus is gone. >> people have compassion for the sick here, and it's pretty cruel to say that's what he wants to get back to work does

not care about the inflicted. that's absurd today. >> laura: i know dan cares about his state and i know every governor and mayor cares. gentlemen, thank you so much great to see both of you. two different states in two grfferent experiences but a new different segment. "what you know, joe?" "friday folly" with raymond arroyo coming up next.

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>> live from america's news headquarters, i'm ashley stroud meyer. angus king reportedly telling people mike pence failing to develop the program is a dereliction of duty. republicans say they will agree to the demands of her additional hospital funding and keeping the small business payroll plunging. talks will continue this weekend debated u.s. stock markets bailing friday and closing back-to-back weekly gain since the current sell-off began two months ago graded stock prices rising on investor hopes about the encouraging report of a possible coronavirus treatment. if dow gaining more than 700 points. the indexes are rising as well. i'm ashley strohmeyer it now back to "the ingraham angle" for all new headlines log onto foxnews.com. ♪ >> laura: it's friday, that means it's time for "friday folly."

with a plan to save us from the coronavirus, if he can get it out and joining us with all the details, raymond arroyo, fox news contributor and author, his book now available on paperback. poor joe is doing his best to stay in our minds during the crisis. >> he is, laura, the problem is the content into better releasing statements at that point which brings us to our new segment, "what you know joe." ♪ laura, a large part of the biden strategy is trying to empathize with the people of quarantine. he attempted to share his daily routine with his visiting angel in tow on msnbc. >> i text and call everyone and my grandchildren and kids every single solitary day and everybody's doing the same. everybody's doing the same.rynd and really, but i mean, you got a -- we got to reassure -- look.

>> joe biden, the cheer leader, yeah, right, go, laura. i'll be your cheerleader and be on your side. yeah, you know, just a backing each other up and the look on her face as he tries to tell the story. of how he counseled a man in quarantine is one for the ages. >> i sat with a guy yesterday on the telephone, he said, i got w myself in the position where i got the virus and so they quarantine me and he put me and a hospital and i made it out but they don't want me with my family and i'm on the third floor. i spent 50 minutes on the phone where i have a three-year-old and a four year old and i come to the door outside and they knock on the door and say daddy, daddy, can i seer you, daddy? so we spent time going through what i used to do with our kids when i was little and couldn't

see them and i play games, knock and make a game. you know, knock and it just practical things and that guy is scared to death. >> scared to death watching that. >> laura: wait a minute, raymond, joe biden's and his wife's face, she saying i don't remember that the game at all i don't remember any of these games. this is a scary game, are you there, and joe, are you there? >> laura, if he ever makes it to the white house it's all a display of him looking worried. >> laura: last night, biden appeared on cnn and he offered the solution to the covid-19 crisis. >> you know, during world war ii, you know, roosevelt came up with a thing that you know was totally different than the -- he called it the world war ii, he had the war production board.

i don't know if what we don't set up something like a pandemic production board. >> a pandemic production board, is that a board that produces pandemics? the poor man, he's gone off the grid and his ideas are just -- this is a man who tells us this week he's appointed a transition team and i think it's going to transition zone and my hard to breaks every watch end. >> laura: i hope not anytime soon but we are going to be there and you can't find the word and it's just not there, that's a tough place to be and for any elderly person, it's hard. >> laura, i blame his staff for the lame set up and they failed repeatedly any of to blame his family for letting him do this. here's one of the better moments where no words were necessary. >> people are starting to understand at least what normal could look like for out period of time. what do you think the new normal should look like, mr. vice president?

>> he's a charlie chaplin of politics, he hold ups the masks and better a way to communicate moving forward than trying to talk. using known words may be the best pattern at this point. >> laura: biden campaign, it might be the first history a candidate never left his house and used no words at all. that's a pretty good deal so he offered a serious proposal though, let's watch. >> he did. >> keep people on the payrolls and i the payment of a flat payment where the government pays half the salary of everybody on it and keep everybody going half the work that they were doing and everybody stays employed.ee >> laura, this is pure socialism and the government paying you to work have time. is this a solution to the crisis? >> laura: ray, our show should have ended 12 minutes ago which would have been nice. less than america would have

been happy and have time and were gone. okay, before i let you go, the gals at "the view" head had dr. deborah birx on their show and somebody should have given a pronunciation guide for their guests name. birx, birx, birx, ladies >> dr.on birx, we know that thee is a lack of tests in the country. >> thank you dr. birx, we will be right back. [laughter] >> well, when you're doing the show, it's a little bit hard to get the pronunciation right and it's not written on the card technically that clearly. >> laura: she almost said dr. cox, right? >> like the doctor from "scrubs." >> wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. >> laura: all right --ro [laughs] well, raymond, they're always so nice to others and so we just want to send them off on their weekend of shutdown with just a

little tee-hee, giggle giggle. all right, raymond, thank you so much and have a great weekend. up next, business guru, john taffer, is here on how restaurants and bars can lead america out of the covid crisis. don't go away. ♪

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♪ >> this is a bleak time for the restaurant industry. we are giving it our best effort to stay afloat. >>nt what's the psychological damage done to the consumer, right, when are people going to feel comfortable together atat restaurants? >> last friday, the worst day i felt like i had to lay off 615 employees. >> the question is what do we do, and where to we go, where do we spend money? and i have no answers to them. >> laura: all right, if that doesn't bring you to tears about the country and why people are facing, most of the country is on shutdown, lockdown, whatever you want to call it. restaurants, bars, they're getting absolutely creamed. a lot of owners and their employees are losing hope and my next guest, john halford, thisy' is an opportunity for the hospitality industry to recite and come out on top and he's the host of the hit show "the bar rescue" and he joins me now. jon,to what did the businesses

have to do to prepare for reopening and surviving? under the new protocols of cutting their patrons numbers by, you know, a half, a third, two-thirds in some cases? >> you took a look at the spacing requirements it reduces capacity about 15% and what business can survive on 50% of the capacity. what worries me about the restaurantnt industry and the surplus that provides now the stimulus is only maintaining or only sustaining but to move forward bars have to change their operation and restaurants have to change their operations and closing the kitchens won't happen anymore. we're losing capacity and server that handled money can touch refood plates anymore. we have to get employees processed and added quickly to

the process in the entire economic model changes. if that's the small operations, but the more we think about restaurants today, you would go to the restaurant that had your second favorite hamburger if you trusted it more than the one that had your first favorite hamburger. and that changes the entire dynamic of the restaurant industry and t it's all going to be based onn trust now greater transparency and trust and that's whatt really is a challenge for the restaurant industry is to create that trust and really handle food in the way were handling the whole situation. to do that, i think, we need to be transparent and i see webcams in kitchens and different uniform programs. i see silverware and not on tables when you sit down and brought out to you and sanitized kind of way. of all these things change greatly but to every brand needs to focus on trust, trust in a way that they handle -- >> laura: i think it's all too complicated, john, i know you and -- i think we have to like solve this virus and understand this virus because while all

this sounds good, i worry that it's so many layers for restaurants that operate on such small margins as it is. let they're going to throw up their hands and there's no way -- we were not going to be able to make a profit and more employees, they had to layoff all their employees or almost all of them, jon. that's a pickle, that's a real pickle we are. you have to have all the gear and you can't touch this -- i don't think that's realistic. maybe i don't know what i'm talking about but to me -- >> we have a restaurant concept opening up and we've done those things and we have robotic cooking, we have food that's not touched by human beings. there are systems that we can develop to do this stuff, laura, but we need help in the stimulus package that we have now is only

sustaining our employees some of them for a period of time. the restaurants get the money to get their inventories back in every refrigerator is empty and the country. this affectsli farmers, it affes food producers, distributors, i believe that we have to have some kind of a stimulus package that gets these restaurants open again. so that we can fill our refrigeratorssoso and also a lie thing, laura, that can make a big difference is where and during the summertime. what if cities like new york, los angeles, chicago, allowed more outdoor seating in a restaurant? would if we realize that the traffic count down now creating more streets in areas where there is clusters of restaurants? so maybe we can help by a neighborhood by neighborhood basis but clearly, codes have to change come up maybe a little bit more outdoor seating, we have to create systems that build trust. laura, and of the day, we don't trust the restaurant were going to were not going to go. >> laura: a lot of people are entrusting the government what they are saying about various things either and so there's a trust deficit in the media, the

government, the health officials are saying and the goalpost keep shifting on what has to be done. we really know all about the virus that we need to know about it and it's a lot of things there, jon, that we repairing all of that's going to take an enormous amount of time. guess what, jon, some people are saying going out to dinner or to a restaurant will be a luxury. let's watch. oh, it's a full screen, sorry, restaurants in particular have to deal with two new wrenching changes brought around by the changes and the social distancing reduced to a number diners allowed at one time and it goes on and enhanced unemployment benefits and a health hazard of being exposed to the public will make hiring low-paid workers harder so it becomes a luxury good. i guess that's what it's used to be and that's what it used to be when i was growing up and i never went out to restaurants. >> you know, laura, this kind of uncertainty people that are great marketers and great

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