keep to it every day. >> dana: bill pulte, thank you so much for all you do, we appreciated. thank you for joining us, i'm dana perino. don't forget i've got story time at 3:30 p.m. eastern today, next you're going to have a great treat, bill hemmer. >> bill: dana, thank you, fox news alert now, how do you reopen the country. i'm bill hemmer, good afternoon, the fate of the u.s. economy dating of the fight of the pandemic at this hour. we began in this ongoing fight over how and when to reopen america. we have seen protesters in many states calling on governors to loosen the state home orders as state leaders consider ways to reopen the economy there. meanwhile, lawmakers and the trump administration working out a bill that could top of $400 billion. if passed, it would provide more relief to small businesses among many other things. in a moment, i will speak with

michigan democratic congressman about both of those topics, but first, reporting live from a midwest beer in chicago to get a lay of the land on this monday afternoon. matt, hello. >> bill, hundreds of protesters already gathered outside of the capitol in pennsylvania and there are even more demonstrations nationwide today from arizona to new york. a growing number of outraged americans and at least 23 states are now demanding their state government reconsider some if not all parts of the state home orders. insisting their livelihoods are being destroyed.

>> it was probably a good decision at the time, but now, it's clear it was a mistake. now it's time to just flip the switch, just flip the switch. >> there's a lot of people that are hurting, not just people sick from the virus, but people, their entire livelihoods are being upended by this. >> many protesters in various estates or blatantly disregarding social distancing guidelines will demonstrating, facing health concerns. in a protest near indianapolis, protesters held up signs assaying a governor, you and your staff are still getting paid, wait till november. protesters mostly want to return to their jobs and schools but are outraged over certain restrictions on activities like fishing. all nine petitions are gaining hundreds of thousands of signatures requesting businesses like beauty salons to reopen with extra care and as little as one customer at a time. in denver, nurses gather to counter protests. medical experts and even the president's task force is still urging people to practice social distancing and staying home. in illinois, america's third-largest city of chicago has been on lockdown for nearly a month now. the governor says people's protests are legitimate but he's looking at all the way he can reopen it while people safe. >> i think i would say to all of those folks who legitimately want to get back to work, i do too. i want people to get back to

work, i want people to go back to school. and i want us to have a great summer. >> the president has encouraged people to abide by their governors orders but also say some governors have gone too far. bill. >> bill: thank you, matt, ongoing debate, madison chicago, were going to bring in michigan congressman dan kildee, the democrats and chief deputy whip. thank you, can you understand clearly the level of frustration being interacted in lansing are various parts of the country about the state home orders today? >> yeah, i definitely understand the frustration. people want to go to work, they want to get back to some semblance of normal. and so that sentiment, those protesters, you know, the protest comes from the right place. i think we have to be careful, those who support some of these estate home orders, we have to be careful to not miss the point

that these protesters, most of them, some of them have other interests, obviously. but for the most part, these are people who are looking to get back to normal. but we need to listen to the president's task force, the experts. we need to listen to the science and health experts and make sure that as we do this, as we transition back to whatever the new normal looks like, we do so in a way that doesn't create a second spike of coronavirus. we know this may not be overrated way. we just want to be thoughtful, careful, and as effective and deliberate as we can. but the most important thing is obviously protecting human life. we can make short-term sacrifices to do that, and i think that's really the struggle that were facing right now. >> bill: when you consider the second wave coming could be waiting another year for that, listening to the scientists and doctors and experts on that. but when you think it's okay to give the green light michigan? >> i think it's when the testing shows that we are clearly out on the other side of the peak of

this. let's hope that that's very so soon. the governor's current executive order extends for another 12 days or so. we are at the peak rate no of the death rate, we have seen a decline in new cases, for sure, which is a positive indicator. if we see that number continued to go down quickly, than i do think we can begin that process. but we have to keep in mind, this is uncharted territory, and we don't get a second chance. we have to make sure to get it right. between moving hastily to move the economy, or making sure that we are taking the extra precaution to protect american lives, i think as is the case in any global threat, we always put the premium on protecting life,t i come before us who have made big sacrifices. >> bill: i think you would also agree, if you're going to

be out in public, social distancing is a must. it is proven by all standards to work. now in washington, with the latest round of funding could be upwards of $500 billion, we are hearing. why wait until thursday to pass this, congressman? >> well, we would like to be able to move much more quickly. it could be as early as wednesday. but we've all got to get back to washington, many folks are reluctant to fly. the senate is teed up to take first action. i'm in my car tomorrow morning driving back to washington, to be prepared to vote as early as wednesday. you know, we've go got to get ts done. the last time we passed one of these bills, we attempted to do it under what we referred to as unanimous consent, but we did have a member who objected to that, so we have to anticipate that that member would do this again. so were all going to get back there, and we will pass this thing, and hopefully will be enough to carry us for some

time. it's a big number, bill. these are big numbers. but it's a big problem. >> bill: and also, they are considering having another crack at that apple too after this one. dan kildee, good drive this week back to washington. thank you sir from flip michigan. thank you. meanwhile, researchers at the university of washington now releasing a brand-new analysis of how some of the states could start reopening as early as the 4th of may. those states are vermont, west virginia, montana, and hawaii. they are the lightest shades on the map you see. ollie mocked out is with me now, professor at the university of washington, thank you for coming back, we wanted you on wednesday, got delayed to thursday, then friday, than over the weekend. why is this model so difficult to put together? >> so, the problem we have with this model, we want to be a little, we know what capacity of

each local health department. when we say you can open up, how much force as they have in order to monitor the cases. what were during right now bill, were saying one case per million of the population. so state like mine, 8 million populated, we're talking about eight cases per day, and 160, or 30 contacts. and we feel comfortable that this is a conservative approach that my state could monitor 240 and trace them in check. >> bill: okay. so i want to go back to the map that you provided for us. this is the green map. the darker the state, the longer the weight, essentially. the lighter the green, the sooner the time. i mention vermont, west virginia, montana, and hawaii. is it obvious, or what are you seeing in those four states as of today? >> very good question.

it's a very good question, bill. the stage of the epidemic, is coming down right now. remember, you and i talked about it, some states are delayed, some states peak earlier, that's what were seeing. the number of cases they will have to deal with, how much workforce they can do. west virginia, the population of less than 2 million, were talking about two cases a day they have to trace. >> bill: okay. the second wave will include the following states then, the dakotas, nebraska, utah, arkansas, and oklahoma. when you put the states up there, what does that tell the people living there about the state of normalcy that they can assume on say may 4th or may 11th on your map? >> so what we're telling people, that that infection level that's happening in your own state, that you can move to containment

space, and then you have to monitor through public health surveillance, but you can start releasing some of your workforce, and he have to do it as we talked before, in waves. but you are ready to do it because you are capable to monitor so many cases at that time. >> bill: okay. some of these models contributed to shutting the country down, i know the amount of pressure you've been under to try and help reopen things, because we're using your information to figure out when we can go back to work again. and when we can go back to school again. but your model showed that the peak happened five days ago. do you stand by that now?

>> yes, i still stand by the worst is behind us, and yes, the peak has happened for us as a country, yes. and bill, listen, there's a lot of debate here, you have to be very careful what you're looking at. there are people out there who are saying if you want to build the building of 50 floors, i need everything today before his start building. what we are saying, can we start with the basement right now. and then when we have the resources, we can go to the first floor, second-floor, third floor, and so on. we have to start, we have certain industries, the food industry, you and i talked about fishing, we have fishermen, 10,000 that we need to roll out of seattle. this is a good source for food. we need to do it right, we need to start rolling our economy. we need to make sure that we don't damage more people out there. i hear people, i told you, some of my friends lost their jobs. it's a big debate for us, but we want to provide the best information to start rolling the economy out. >> bill: ali mokdad, let's check in later and that we can see what your models are. from the university of washington, thank you. >> at the 500,000 test capacity which we have just acquired is equal to the total amount of testing which has been completed

by four of the top five states in america combined. >> bill: that's larry hogan, maryland's governor with us last friday. announcing today the state had half a million test kits from south korea. we will get an update on nsa body testing, antibody testing could be key to when things reopen. also, nations around the world and now targeting china over beijing's role on the pandemic, how can the globe take on this economic power house to the troon of trillions of dollars. how the last cruise ship still at sea is finally pulling into port. how long its passengers spent on board and on the water. we need each other more than ever. we may be apart, but we're not alone. use aarp community connections to find or create a mutual aid group near you. stay connected and help those in need. there will be parades and sporting events and concerts. to help our communities when they come back together,

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>> bill: believe it or not, the last cruise ship still out at sea amid the pandemic making their way back to land. the msc magnificat reportedly dodged the south of france earlier today, unloading its passengers in spain. in the pacific princess at the dock today in los angeles. get this, all three ships have been traveling the globe for 15 weeks. while back. meantime, here in new york, starting to test thousands of people for antibodies to see whether or not they've already had covid-19. that testing could play a critical role in safely reopening the country. meanwhile, president trump says he will order companies to make swabs under the defense production act in an effort to ramp up that testing.

in detroit, that said he is offering free coronavirus testing for all essential workers. david's pontus got more on that story for us today. david. >> bill, a lot of talk about testing specifically antibody testing that will become increasingly popular. people at a state and local level and federal level really trying to use these tests. no specifically, an antibody test as you mentioned a z transfer doctors to see if cindy has the antibody and if they have a specifically recovered from covid-19. it does not show if a person actively has the virus at this point. now, governor andrew cuomo announced new york state starting today is on board with the specific type of testing bill. he says the testing in general needs a lot of cooperation. >> on testing and funding. those are the two areas that were looking to work with our federal partners. testing is going to require

everyone to work together. federal and state, state and locals. >> but dr. anthony fauci from the president's coronavirus task force says wait a minute, antibody testing is not perfect. >> the problem is that these are tests that need to be validated and calibrated. and many of the tests out there don't do that. >> "the washington post," bill, reporting that more than 90 antibody tests currently on the market are out there without passing through the proper goal or goals from the food and drug administration. the fda reviewing as many of those tests as soon as possible to try day give them authorization, switching gears to the regular covid-19 test to see if the virus is still president someone. around 3.9 million tests done alone in the united states. there still a backlog, though, many can find out for five or seven days, not those 15 minutes tests. that's not very common.

meanwhile, michael milken, fox business, our colleagues over their reporting he is trying to convince amazon.com to distribute regular covid-19 tests to just about everyone in the united states and make them free. amazon.com insane, but milken said amazon is the perfect venue to do something like that. >> bill: david's pond in washington, firefighters meanwhile calling for help. they say federal funding is desperately needed on the front lines of the pandemic. how much lawmakers are earmarking so far for them, in a moment. that's me. by using your va streamline refi benefit, one call to newday usa can save you $2,000 a year. that's me. there's no income verification, no appraisal, and no out of pocket costs. that's me. put your va home loan benefits to good use. call my team at newday usa.

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went on a 12 hour rampage across rural nova scotia, driving a fake police cruiser, setting houses on fire and shooting at people hiding inside of their homes. police say officers killed him in a shoot-out. it's the worst mass shooting in canada's history. we are still waiting to learn about motive from there. back here in the u.s., fire departments and emergency medical services desperately need more money from the feds. that's the word now from the head of the international association of fire chiefs. he says the last stimulus package largely overlooked emergency funding for firefighters and paramedics. mike emanuel reports live in washington on that. mike. >> bill, good afternoon, fire chiefs across the country are struggling to make tough decisions. they've been forced to buy protective gear to help their first responders who are now handling coronavirus calls, at a time when city budgets are getting crushed due to a huge reduction in tax revenue, the cares act signed into law

provided $850 million for law enforcement, $100 million to firefighters, and top fire chiefs are sounding the alarm. >> this is actually a war, and we are in the streets. i commend the hospitals on the health care workers for all they're doing, but how those patience get to the hospitals is through our systems. through the fire departments. >> the international association of fire chiefs is requesting $5 billion for assistance to firefighters branch programs, $5 billion for staffing for adequate fire and emergency response programs, priority to equipment and a strategic national stockpile, advance notifications about pending drug shortages, and prioritizing access to testing and potential vaccinations. in the fire chief in naples, florida, notes these first responders are putting their lives on the line against this invisible enemy. >> our workforce is being greatly affected. over 5,000 firefighters have been quarantined. and we need to keep them and their families and our thoughts,

our prayers, our hearts. and so the public safety first responders are without a doubt on the tip of the skewer. and really, you can't lose sight of that. >> so far, it does not appear congress will approve new money for fire departments this week. fire chiefs are hoping that relief will come soon. bill. bill: watching that, mike emanuel, thanks come on capitol hill. the push to hold china and accountable continues this hour. there are several nations around the world taking key steps to target beijing to the tune of trillions of dollars. we will talk to to experts about how and where the world should take action when dealing with the communist government, why the economy could be the key. during trying times. today, being on your side means staying home... "nationwide office of customer advocacy." ...but we can still support you and the heroes who are with you. we're giving refunds on auto insurance premiums,

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us here at fox news. president trump says he wants investigators to travel to china, in moments we will talk to two leading experts and one actions are both being taken and should be taken to try and curb the communist government's power. but first, gillian turner reporting live yet again outside the chinese embassy in washington, d.c., today. gillian. >> well, bill, the united states is not really alone in this anymore. over the weekend, australia's government has joined the trump administration is calling for a thorough investigation into the origins of the viruses outbreak in wuhan, as well as an accounting of the chinese communist party's knowledge, what they knew, and when they knew it. now, the foreign minister said this weekend, australia's foreign minister said an international independent investigation is really the only way to get to the bottom of this pandemic and declared that australia will absolutely insist on it. now, those words echo president trump's who called an expanded investigation several

times this week. take a listen. >> president trump: we want to go and, we want to see what's going on, and we weren't exactly invited, i can tell you that. >> he also reaffirmed his commitment to the u.s. intelligence community's ongoing investigative work. this when he was asked about china wanting its own inquiry. take a listen. >> president trump: listen, they're doing an investigation, they're doing an investigation. so let's see what happens with their investigation. but where doing investigations also. >> now, we are also hearing for the first time from the wuhan institute of virology, the labs director speaking out with a complete denial of its role in the viruses outbreak. >> as we said early on, there's no way this virus came from us. we have a strict regulatory regiment, and we have a code of conduct for research, so were confident of that. >> now, this pits the lab in

china's government directly against the trump administration which confirms to fox news, they are approaching a near certainty that the coronavirus originated in a lab, it also rubs up against the senators at lake tom who claimed melnyk the trail of evidence is really undeniable. the u.s. government carries on investigating, he americans across the nation are really seeking legal remedies of their own. we have heard of at least seven federal civil lawsuits launched targeting the chinese government, seeking reparations of trillions of dollars in damages. these launched in just the last two weeks, we will keep you updated on developments there, bill. >> bill: an extraordinary thing, thank you gillian turner. the chinese embassy in washington. jerry baker now, editor at large of our corporate cousin, "wall street journal," and gordon chang is with us as well, author of the coming collapse of china who lived and worked in china for almost two decades, gentlemen, welcome to our discussion here. gordon, pick up on that last point that jillian was talking

about, the trillions of dollars that have now been threatened from germany, the u.k., different firms of the united states. how much of a difference does that make to the communist party in beijing? >> well, for beijing, this is an issue of symbolism, and symbolism is absolutely critical to an insecure communist regime. you've got these class action lawsuits in federal court. florida, texas, nevada, and you have two important pieces of the legislation in congress right now. there is the content crenshaw bell, and there is the blackburn gooden bill. and both of these would strip trent of protection under the foreign sovereign communities act. this is not just an american thing, bill. we had a british paper ten days ago draw up how much china load britain, and the bill, which is a very popular german tabloid just a couple of days ago, actually created an invoice to china of 149 billion euros. so this idea is picking up steam

everywhere. >> bill: yeah, jerry, what is your feeling on that, and is this something that just gets attention for the time being? the passes by in six months or year? is this something they could stick, do you think, jerry? >> no, i think it will stick. i think the chances of these actual lawsuits yielding anything, as gordon says, whether or not they change under the lot the moment, foreign governments are given immunity from civil lawsuits. they could change the law to make sure china is subject to civil lawsuits. nobody honestly expects the train is going to defend itself in the u.s. courtroom, and may be subject itself to the possibility of a jury on the euro coat will say you owe $2 trillion. that's not what's going to happen. but i think the damage that china could face from broader economic sanctions, economic

measures of retaliation. it's interesting, the israeli government is talking about seeking damaging, seeking some kind of compensation from china. australia has had an extremely close economic relationship with china for the last 30 years. one of the reasons australia has had such a strong economic performance is because it's been tied to the chinese economy. even the australian saying we've had enough of this, we really need to come clean on this, you need to tell us what happened or were going to find some way, whether it's through legal means or policy means, were going to get that money back. or what's happening in the u.k., the u.k., two month ago, very controversially, the u.k. government approved whil wawe, e are a lot of calls now in the u.k. government, and the u.k. parliament as a result of what's happened with the coronavirus to rescind that decision, i think there's a very good chance it will be rescinded. so you may not see specific legal consequences for china, but i think you will see much broader economic and policy consequences. >> bill: okay, and with regard to the economic policy, we did some research earlier today, we talked about the supply launch,

the japanese government said they're changing things, we've been changing things for at least a period of five years as you know, gordon. this is what we found out, 72% of protective clothing such as masks and gowns are imported from china. 30% of thermometers. up until recently, i guess 70% of the ventilators have come from china. do the supply lines impact that government and the decision it makes to a degree where they would sit up and pay attention to this, gordon? >> i think so. you know, the japanese decision which was announced in the papers, basically, that's $2.2 billion worth of subsidies to japanese companies to leave china. and we heard larry kudlow on fox talk about giving u.s. companies 100% expensing for removing facilities and factories from china. that's actually going to be significant, because other countries are going to do the same thing. and although a lot of our

protective equipment is made in china, i've got a friend in l.a. who was making trinkets just a couple months ago, he is now making visors and masks and other protective equipment. a lot of this equipment will be made in the u.s. were made on the side of the pacific very quickly. china is going to take notice, and i think they're very concerned about it, bill. >> bill: my feeling on that is when you come back to the manufacturers, and the first place, ten or 15 or 20 years ago, it was cheap to manufacture, they could do it efficiently. jerry, we've been reporting on this wuhan lab, is there something new on that as we begin a new week for that lab in wuhan? >> weathering evidence that this virus may have started, as you know, the original story came out of one of the simple wet markets in wuhan where people eat exotic animals, and these animals are not to be carriers of these virus errors, and transmit them to humans.

then there was some suspicion about that story, there are some circumstantial evidence about a lab in wuhan, as it happens, which is actually a kind of biological, experiment or biological lab, very sophisticated one. there was some evidence. the u.s. intelligence authorities seem to believe that there is no absolute firm consensus and decision on this yet, but that initial theory, which was dismissed by many people, by the way, senator tom cotton raised a few weeks to go, a lot of people said it was ridiculous, if course it wasn't, china itself, as we just heard, the intelligence, what were hearing, are increasingly inclined to believe that this is a serious possibility. again, not to be clear, it wasn't an act of biological warfare, nobody's actually suggesting that, but this virus may have been experimented upon, and may vex gently escaped that lab. now, if that happened, china has already clearly responsible for all of this suffering around the world that's going on, but if it

could be demonstrated it came from a lab as an active actual negligence, then i think it china has a lot more. >> bill: woods takes us back to the beginning of the conversation, we talked about trillions and trillions of dollars. countries are looking for that. jerry baker, thank you, gordon chang, good to have you on today. thank you gentlemen, both of you today, thanks. scientists working on a possible vaccine, gearing up for that important test, this type of testing it on people. were going to talk to an elite researcher from oxford university who says it should be ready to roll out in the fall. also, how facebook help put together a map that could pinpoint the new virus hot spots in america.

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oxford university set to begin testing on a potential coronavirus vaccine on humans this week. oxford professor adrian hill is a lead researcher on the vaccine and joins me now live. sorry, thank you for your time, what are you trying to figure out now? >> were trying to figure out this vaccine which is being made in the university at oxford over the last three or four months. actually, we are starting clinical trials later this week, and we're probably going to be immunizing around about 1,000 people over the next few weeks, and then gearing up for an even larger trial and in higher by in june. to see whether this vaccine is safe and protects people against coronavirus. >> bill: are you saying you might have an answer in june, sir? >> no, we might have everybody vaccinated by june. we are aiming for september to

have an answer for certain. then we would need approvals to be allowed to do them. then of course, we have to have this vaccine manufactured, it's so important that we have enough vaccine, once it's ready to use, we are gearing up manufacturers in several places to make as much vaccine as they can to be ready. >> bill: can you give us a sense of how complicated this has been for you and the people who work with you? >> sure, well, making vaccines typically would take you about ten years or longer depending on how difficult it is. we were aware, from having worked on ebola vaccines five years ago that there were faster ways that would allow you to test the vaccine in less than a

year. and that's actually what happened with the bullet. e bola. not for a covid vaccine, but for other diseases, we've tested them in many trials. we were waiting with the technology available, when this came along in january. so we had a bit of a head start. >> bill: does your progress, professor, does that give you hope or does it give you frustration? >> it gives us a lot of hope, if we can get a vaccine that's available by september, this really, this vaccine, should be the exit strategy for this dreadful pandemic. so we see this is really important to get people out of lockdown, help the economy get going again, and to give people

the security that they are not brisk whenever they meet somebody new who might be infected. so yes, we are very hopeful that this vaccine could come along, there's no certainty, there never is with vaccines. but where feeling pretty confident from what we've seen already. >> bill: it's great to hear her story, we'll be in touch with you. adrian hill from oxford university. good luck, as you well know, it's a race against time. thank you sir for your time today. meanwhile, facebook now using a survey to track the spread of coronavirus symptoms. it partnered with carnegie mellon university to create this map on screen. now, the areas in red show counties now with higher percentages of people who report symptoms. i want to bring in brett larson, ankara fox news headlines 24/7, our tech guru, what are they seeing it facebook, how could it help? >> hey, bill, yeah, it's kind of

fascinating the time that we are in. you know, we look back at the spanish flu, we've been hearing a lot about that infamous we've been handling the covid-19 crisis. mark sucker berg wrote an op-ed in "the washington post" about how we talk about how we have all this data and all this social media power that gives us a new superpower in the fight against this. what he is doing is he's turning over the platform in part as a tool to help local officials handle the coronavirus. what they did, they put out a survey, believe it or not, although facebook claims, there could be some not believe it aspect to it. they did the survey with carnegie mellon. the survey results went to carnegie mellon, the data is what we're seeing on this map. these are people who went out and filled out the survey and said maybe someone in their household had a temperature or showed cobit symptoms, maybe they had covid symptoms. it's interesting to note here, in the past couple of weeks, we've seen some data coming out of google on the search side of

people searching for different symptoms of covid-19 in geographic areas that within about a week became a hot spot. so about a month and a half ago, people of italy started searching for things like fever, chills, loss of taste and smell, something's not to be associated with covid-19. so the kind of an interesting way to receive this sort of real-time data picture overlaid with what is actually happening. it has been a real key for health departments, because it gives them a lot of information that we wouldn't otherwise have. now, mark sucker berg has played down the privacy aspect of all this, he said you know, this is not a time to be concerned about privacy, we have your privacy in mind. were going to have to shelve that comment for a postmortem on all of this to see where that actually happened because bill, as you know, through the years, the past for years we've seen time and again that. >> bill: just one thing on this, google, i remember from

ten years ago, google knew where the flu is going to break out in america before the u.s. government did because they were looking at search results, is this much different than that? >> yeah. it is actually very parallel to that because, it's sad that google knew about it before the centers for disease control, but that's how the data usually works. but it's parallel to what google knows because facebook knows so much more about us. they know where we live, they know our habits, they know our buying habits, they know what we've been doing online. so they get a little bigger picture than just going in and saying i've lost my sense of smell, or my sense of taste and smell, i have a fever, someone in my household has been traveling. it's a little more granular level access that facebook is getting. and it's interesting that zuckerberg referred to this as a superpower in the arsenal to fight this. he touted that they have billions of users worldwide which will help them. going forward, i'm curious to

see if it is in fact helpful, in areas like new york where we need more contact tracing. apple and google also stepping into that fray will have to definitely keep ni though on the privacy and where we are now versus when we come out of this, is privacy still going to be concerned? >> bill: great point, thank you brett, nice to have you back on today. brett watson mike larson online. a fox news right now, new details trickle in about how and when some states may reopen. new jersey governor phil murphy saying a moment ago he will lay out a broad blueprint deficit plans later in this week so what could that look like. also, nebraska's governor pete ricketts explains his plan for easing restrictions in his state, he's got a plan and he is live, coming up next. we're working hard to answer your questions. like helping you understand what the recently passed

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>> bill: the governor of nebraska has stopped short of issuing a formal stay-at-home order. it is encouraging strict social distancing which includes staying home for 21 days to flatten the curve. they are on day 11. thank you for your time. what do you see in nebraska to america i've got 15,700 who have tested. 1474 have tested positive and the number of deaths that your state are 28. what are you feeling in nebraska

when you consider the health center in omaha was the first to take in covid-19 positive patients from their cruise ship in japan, and yet you see everything that's happening in new york. you are in the midwest. with what could arguably be a very different reality. what do you tell your people at home? >> i think we are very blessed at the university of nebraska medical center. they were able to brief me early on. they took americans and when they were looking to quarantine them. also some of the first patients were treated there. our first patient was march 6th. we implemented our restrictions with regard to the nonpharmaceutical intervention. pretty much concurrent with new york. i think the difference is, new york has an entire concentration of people. they also had the virus much more spread throughout that population that we did in nebraska. relatively speaking, because we

took our interventions early, we were able to tamp down at spread of the virus and flatten out the curve. it has been effective in the state where i announced we will begin surgeries in nebraska starting on may 4th under certain conditions. >> bill: okay, that is good. that's great to hear. in ten days, how a lot of based on your plan right now in nebraska? >> we still have the plan, the rest of the month under relations. we have six rules to help people stay home and keep nebraska people healthy including stay home, go to work, but stay socially distance. don't take the family. exercise. those are our rules. as we approach may, we will be looking to gradually lift the restrictions like we just talked about with regard to those elective surgeries. understanding that the social distancing we are doing now make it less restrictive, but we are

still going to be living with that social distancing for quite some time at least until -- >> bill: governor, thank you for your time. the computers going to cut it off. we will check back with you. here is neil. see you tomorrow. >> neil: the virus and tumbling interest rates. that's what you know. virus and tumbling oil prices, that is what you didn't know. take a look at what happened today. how about negative oil prices? the figure on the right side is a negative $37.63. in other words, it was down more than $55 a barrel. they paid you to take it off your hands. just imagine that. and all of this as the world remains stopped by the coronavirus. it is slowing everything down. in the energy markets, churning at the