concert series will be joining us this friday. >> that's right. and ted cruz challenge all of us to go out and do something kind and think those first responders. have a great day. we will see you tomorrow. >> sandra: all right president trump announcing plans to suspend all immigration into the u.s. admit that coronavirus pandemic calling it a necessary step to defend american workers in this crisis. good morning everyone, i'm sandra smith. >> ed: very pleasant good morning to you, i met henry. the president says he expects to sign act soon. several governors have repeatedly said it's key to reopening their economy, but the president insists it's all up to the individual states. >> president trump: vice president pence spoke with governors from all 50 states about our unified effort to defeat the virus.

it was a great call. very positive. i would say in every way. prior to the call we provided each governor with a list of names, addresses and phone numbers of the labs where they can find additional testing capacity within their states. many, many labs are providing you with a list. we will show it to you now if needed, but hundreds and hundreds of labs are ready, willing and able. >> sandra: meanwhile georgia, tennessee and south carolina are taking steps this week to ease restrictions and open up some businesses. in a moment we will be speaking with the maryland governor larry hogan about his plans to implement more testing and john cornyn about his state and how it is reopening. we begin with fox team coverage for you this morning. matt finn has the latest on antilock down protests happening in some parts of the country. up but we become a chief white house correspondent john roberts live from the north lawn. >> we begin with president trump

saying he's going to implement this temporary restriction on immigration for a couple of reasons. first is to protect american jobs from being taken by immigrants. if you recall some 22 million people have filed for unemployment insurance over the last three weeks. the other reason the president wants to do this is because of health. he wants to make sure that people don't come in from overseas who might be infected with the coronavirus and start the process all over again. here's what robert o'brien said about it earlier today, pointing to the president steps early on in this crisis to limit travel outside of the united states. >> those bands save thousands or tens of thousands of american lives. the president is in taking a political decision but looking at how he can protect americans both economically and protect our health. so this is a temporary issue just like the part, prior bands where necessary and we are doing it to keep the american people safe.

>> democratic reaction was swift and harsh. he is seeking to distract from his fumbled covid-19 response by putting the claim at the likely moment on immigrants. and this from congressman joaquin castro. this action is not only an attempt to divert attention away from trump's failure to stop the spread of coronavirus and save lives but an authoritarian like move to take advantage of crisis and advance his anti-immigrant agenda. the president says the immigration ban is going to be temporary but at the moment there were does not appear to be a time horizon on the word temporary. here again, the national security advisor. >> we will have to wait and see. we need to bring the economy back so we will monitor all factors as we make decisions on travel restrictions and immigration restrictions and that sort of thing. no one likes it. the president doesn't put travel

restrictions in place but we have to because of this terrible virus that's been released from foreign shores and it was not the responsibility of the united states. >> we are still waiting this morning for a deal to replenish the small business administration's paycheck protection program, one of the last snakes was how the $25 billion for testing would be allocated. democrats demanding a national testing strategy on the white house preferring a state driven approach. the white house did take more aggressive action yesterday on testing, taking steps to make more testing swabs and specimen test tubes available to states but states still complaining about a shortage of testing materials. at one of the biggest critics to the federal response to testing, new york's governor andrew cuomo will be here at the white house today and he's meeting with the president this afternoon at 4:00. sandra, so for that meeting is closed, as was the last meeting the two had but we will see, maybe they will open it up. maybe.

>> sandra: you just never know. andrew cuomo will have his daily update a few months from now. thanks. >> ed: meanwhile, more protest popping up across country as people get anxious, they want to get back to work. they want some stay-at-home orders lifted. the governor is beginning to explore how to reopen the economy. matt finn's life this morning. >> outraged americans are more than 25 states from california to maine have protested their government to reopen and there are even more demonstratio demos planned in the coming days. [honking] this was a scene outside of pennsylvania's capital, demonstrations also in states like arizona, colorado, washington and maryland. protesters in many states they rural areas and counties that have not been heavily impacted by the pandemic should begin to reopen and businesses like beauty salons and construction

can reopen with extra safety majors. protesters say they understand there is a pandemic but at this rate their livelihoods may not recover. >> it's a shame what's going on, i'd rather be out working right now rather than standing down at the capitol. even though i don't mind being here, i don't -- i really wish they would open this up. people are struggling and it's hard for them to make ends meet now. >> we all sympathize with those who want to both keep our people safe from being infected by the virus and reopen the small businesses and big businesses to get the economy back to normal. everyone is torn between that. >> governors in states like pennsylvania and wisconsin begun to release guidelines for reopening. pennsylvania's governor route extended the stay-at-home order to may 8th but will also use that date to reopen limited construction and perhaps begin easing some of the pandemic restrictions.

>> we have 12.8 million pennsylvanians and all of us, we all want to get back to work, we all want businesses to reopen as quickly as possible. again, the challenges we also want to keep people safe. >> and atlanta's governor says his state is on track to reopen businesses like at the gym and restaurants in the next week. >> sandra: maryland managed to secure 500,000 coronavirus test kits from south korea thanks largely t to the states first ly who is a korean immigrant. president trump has been criticizing that move. he says governor larry hogan did not understand his states testing capacity. thanks so much for being here. we know that you have been part of the coordinated effort, not only in your statement at the national level to ramp up

testing so what are these extraordinary measures that you and of the first lady of your state have taken to increase testing? >> the president had said that the states are really on the front lines and need to go out there and get this testing done and that's exactly what we've tried to do. we have been working very hard as have been the other governors around the country to try to get testing from domestic companies all around america, but also around the globe. we were very successful after three weeks of negotiations to get the assistance of south korea and a couple of south korean companies to get these tests delivered to our state. it's a tremendous accomplishment. we now have more testing capability and maryland than the top four states in america have done all the way from the beginning of this crisis added together. so it's going to help us get to the point where we can reopen our state and get people back to work. having adequate testing has been a huge part of the, trying to

get things back to normal. we are so thankful and appreciative that we finally got it done. my wife and a great team of people here in the state of maryland along with some great partners in korea got this thing done for our state. >> sandra: so those test kits were flown in on a korean air jetliner. you and your wife were on the tarmac to receive those test kits as they came in. i believe that was saturday. heading into that, he said the number one problem for your state is lack of testing and you said "it shouldn't have been this difficult." that was seen as a criticism on the federal government, the white house on the president. president trump reacted to that in his briefing yesterday. listen. >> president trump: governor hogan, he didn't really know. it was very obvious to any of those listening on the call today even though you weren't supposed to be on it, i'm sure that some of you were or representative's word, he really didn't know about the federal laboratories. we have done a really good job

in testing. >> sandra: up until then you had been working very closely with the president on this. what was your response to the president and what was it that he suggested that you didn't understand? >> i'm really not sure, sandra. it was a great call that we had yesterday with the vice president. i thanked and praised the vice president of the president's team for all the progress they had been making. i thanked them for what they have been doing with respect to swabs and ramping up testing and ppe, it was a completely positive call. they put out a list of labs in our state and said these are your state labs and you should be utilizing them. we already knew where the state labs were in our state with a list that they gave us was mostly federal labs which we have been attempting to use for more than a month now. we got a commitment yesterday from the vice president and from the president that we can now use federal labs which is terrific. but the president was not on the call and somehow i think he got confused in the press conference. i'm really not sure what he was

upset about. hwe did what he told us to do which was go out and get testing. i was leading the call on behalf of all the governors. >> sandra: did you reach out to them after he said that? >> no i haven't. i know he's meeting with governor cuomo who is the chairman of the nga. i think the vice president corrected him yesterday and the press conference. it was a great call, i don't think he was on the call and didn't understand what the discussion was about. no idea what he was upset about. >> sandra: i will finish by asking you the biggest question, when can you reopen up your state? you said we can't open up our states without ramping up testing and you have now secured these 500,000 test kits for your state. what does that mean about you reopening maryland, can you do it? become the president's plan which he announced last thursday night calls for, before he suggests that you can open up any states you have dow 14 days

of downward trends of numbers. sadly in our region because of all the distancing we put in place we were one of the first and most aggressive and earliest states. our numbers are behind everybody else. we flattened the curve and length of the curve but now we are starting to go up. we are 2 25,000 cases in the region and we have been we are opening up plan for several weeks. i will be announcing that later this week. i'm anxious to get us open as soon as we can possibly do it in a safe way. >> sandra: i know yesterday you made an announcement that you would be opening back up salons and barbershops for some of those essential workers that so badly need that assistance. governor, we really appreciate you coming on this morning. please keep us updated on the progress in your state. thank you. >> thank you, sandra. >> ed: meanwhile texas begin its own path back to some kind of new normal. opening state parks with certain

restrictions. later this week retail stores will open with a retail to go model. health experts warning that estates reopen too soon they could see a new surge of covid-19 cases. let's bring in texas senator john cornyn. good morning. the mayor of houston is pushing back and sing your state is not yet out of the storm. is texas really ready to reopen? >> texas is a big place and houston is very different in west texas. so i think appropriately the governor and the mayors are looking at conditions where they are. obviously houston has been the hardest hit but it's the most congested and populous part of our state and so i feel pretty good about where we are. but we are going to have to be careful because public health has to be the paramount consideration. >> ed: absolutely. a quick one on oil prices because your state's economy is already in peril. now you see this play out. you're a quick thoughts? >> the saudis and the russians

crushed oil prices around the world by flooding the markets. now thanks to some of the good work done by the administration, now that seems to -- they've agreed to get back about 10 million barrels per day. the problem is because of the coronavirus economic collapse, is not as much demand. so there's an oversupply of roughly 25 million barrels per day. that's why you are seeing all of this pressure on oil prices. i'm really worried that this is going to destroy or at least permanently damage really important part of our economy in texas and the united states. and -- >> ed: it you are worried about it destroying our state's economy but yet alexandria ocasio-cortez tweeted and then deleted it, the idea that she thought it was a good idea that prices were so low because she wants to implement the green new deal. then she went deeper and said if

"if all these folks are worried about the deficit when a democrat takes over the white house, let's roll back that $2 trillion tax cut. if you are worried about the deficit or national debt, let's raise some taxes. your thoughts? >> what obviously she does not know what she's talking about in terms of the energy sector. you can't drive your automobile unless you are one of the lucky ones that have been to have an electric vehicle, without gasoline. and that comes from oil and gas. we know portable energy has been one of the keys to the explosive growth in our economy and it's also it having geopolitical consequences. but now is not the time to try to advance your narrow ideological agenda. the first and most important thing we can do is defeat the virus and then we need to get our economy back on track so people can go back to work. this is not a time for partisan or political posturing. >> ed: fair enough senator. but you are a conservative and

i've been getting viewers from all political stripes emailing me saying, great on him to get the economy going. but how are you going to pay for it? >> right now we are spending a lot of money. we are doing everything we know how to do. we will have to deal with deficits and a debt but this is not the time to deal with it. the united states is not in the position to provide seamless and support, we need to defeat the virus and get our economy back on track but then congress will have to do some really heavy lifting to try to stabilize our fiscal picture. >> ed: you are part of the senate republican leadership and you are trying to get this deal on more small funding ohmic business funding and you can update us on that but i want to add this headline from politico saying banks are saying the funding could evaporate into days. banking industry wraps as the program has a burn rate of $50 billion per day.

on top of that, i mentioned that all these viewers have contacted me, they are watching and reacting, there are mom-and-pop stores in all countries seeing the big guys are getting $10 million from this loan program that you helped pass and the mom-and-pop are still calling their banks, and can't get through. now we read it even if you refund it and put more money in, it's going to be wiped out in two days. how do you help the little guy? >> while this was a first-come, first-served process and obviously some that were better prepared or acted more quickly got their loan. that's why it's so important to replenish this fund. speaker pelosi and senator schumer seem oblivious to the real need and the pain being felt out there in the jobs and businesses being destroyed. but you are right, there is a lot of demand and you look at that because of unemployment claims and this is why we are in a race, utterly, to get the

public health secured but also get people back to work because we can't continue this forever. >> ed: right, but senator come with all due respect when he is a is aides first-come first serve, what do you say to the small business person who says i only have eight employees, i don't have 200 employees. how do you help those folks? >> that's white so important to replenish the fund. we knew it would be a very popular program, and it seems to be working the way we intended but there's more demand than we prepared for. unfortunately senator schumer and speaker pelosi did not have that same sense of urgency. >> ed: senator, we hope you and your family are doing well, thanks for coming on. >> sandra: kim jong un reportedly undergoing surgery as rumors swirled about the health of the north korean dictator. we will get the latest on his condition. and at new york governor andrew cuomo is set to meet the president at the white house this afternoon.

so how will that meeting go after weeks of back and forth over response? >> there is a number of lives lost and that number is still horrifically high. if you are looking for the optimistic view, it's not as bad as it was. but 478 new yorkers died yesterday. ♪

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about the health of the north korean leader kim jong un and not a lot of criticall cleas at this moment. after a meeting a week ago saturday, a north korean website said he underwent heart surgery at the kim family hospital and he has been recovering nearby. aside from some undated publicity pictures that we saw of him at an air base, he's been basically missing in action. especially from some important infants in the past week like the celebration of his grandfather, the north korean founder's birthday. one report has gone as far as to say he is in grave danger since the operation. here is what national security advisor robert o'brien had to say a short while ago. >> we are watching those reports closely and we will have to see. as everyone here knows, the north koreans are parsimonious

about the information they put out especially when it comes to leaders. so we will put it close eye on it. >> now the health of the leader is of course of crucial interest. he is in the middle of not too productive talks with the trump administration. it should be said though that north korean government officials are playing this down. they are saying the government appears to be running as usual but one of our key sources in the korean peninsula, nk news editor chad o'carroll just told me there should be reason for concern. the north korean government has always been kept in the family and some people are already thinking about what succession might look like. they pointed to the recent political elevation of cam's sister. but as a white house just noted it's way too early to talk about that but not too early to be watching and waiting and as we said, be concerned. >> sandra: we will await more details. greg palkot reporting from

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>> sandra: all right. here we go. almost a minute into trading on this tuesday morning at wall street and you are looking at the dallas selling off 2.2%, a loss of 516 points. out of the gate and lower on the opening bell this morning after a wild day for the oil market. the energy market is seeing significant losses in primarily watching oil. west texas intermediate oil prices briefly going negative for the first time ever. it has been an historic move to watch for these energy markets as the big oil producers are sitting on a glut of oil and literally those negative prices meaning they are willing to pay someone to take that oil off their hands so that they can pay to store it. stuart varney will be joining us on the fox business network moments from now. we do the simulcast on big trading days for the markets

because stuart hosts his show on the fox business network. he's talking to traders and investors about these big swings that we are seeing in the middle of a pandemic. the dow lost 500 points as the oil prices continue a dramatic sell-off. stuart varney joining us down from the fox business network. good morning. >> good morning to you sandra, how are you? >> good morning to you. talk us through what's happening to these markets. because you and i have talked through these markets for years, over ten years. you and i sat at that desk in your studio and oil prices were topping $100 per barrel and now we are talking about negative oil prices. what does it mean? >> let me do this in order. first of all the price of oil is way, way down because there is an enormous glut on the world market and there's no place to store the oil that we are still coming up with. in fact there's 160 million barrels floating around on the ocean in tankers

at the moment. so just imagine, you got a contract. you bought oil and you're supposed to take delivery of it now but you can't take delivery because you can't sell it and you can't store it. so you've got to pay people to keep it off your hands and that's the negative price. this morning, we'd gone to the june contract and we are all the way down to $14 per barrel. this cascades into the stock market because every sector of the economy is affected by this. i will call it a crash and the price of oil and down goes stocks in sympathy. that's what's happening. the crash in oil affects everybody i think in a negative way, sandra. >> sandra: but it's also the result and a sign of the economic struggle we are seeing in this country and around the globe because we look at oil as an indicator of economic health. so you have oil prices coming down like that, but at the same time, that's got a huge impact on the energy industry in this country which exacerbates the

problem. oil goes even lower, stock prices go even lower and that's what we are seeing this morning. a lot of technicals, too. the front month contract, this is the last of it. those are so positive. so we will keep watching that. meanwhile we are getting a look at the economic impact of this pandemic, not just in oil and stocks but when you look at some of these airlines. united airlines, finally we are seeing some of the real numbers coming out of this pandemic. hit hard by all of this. >> i believe it united airlines expects to report a loss of $2 billion in the first quarter. >> sandra: to your point, 1 billion reported. >> yes. but it's easy to understand why people aren't flying. 90% of the domestic schedule is grounded in those fights that do take off have white, five, six, maybe a dozen people on board? you can't operate like that because your fixed costs are

enormous. you still have to pay insurance, your employees, you have to pay the capital value of the planes that you are not flying. so down goes the airlines. look at that, and american airline's stock all the way down to $11 per share, united that 27. it's a disaster for the leisure and the travel industry. >> sandra: but stuart, you are an optimist. you are usually the optimists when we look at the market. leave us off on a positive note this morning as we just talk to the maryland governor larry hogan, who is trying to open his state. we have the president saying, we are doing what we canceled states can reopen again so what are you hearing about the next few months? >> the market is looking to the other side of this thing, looking to the time when we do start reopening the economy, and we've started that already especially in south carolina, georgia, tennessee on board with that as well. and mr. hogan, as you pointed out. so we are looking to the other side when the economy comes out

of this depression which is in and is going up towards a growth again on the other side. the market anticipates that. we gone from 18,000 on the dowel, what, about a month ago, five weeks ago? now we are at 23,000. so the market perceives improvement in the future and bank stocks as a means of getting to that future and that's what happened. >> sandra: it will be that delicate balance of reopening and keeping everybody safe and continuing to lower that curve. stuart varney, always good to catch up with you on the fox business network. i'm >> ed: new york to governor andrew cuomo will head to the white house later today to meet with the president has a number of new cases and deaths continue to fall in the hardest hit american state. david lee miller is live outside of mount sinai hospital right here in new york city. good morning, david lee. >> good morning, eddie. for the first time since the

outbreak of the virus governor andrew cuomo is scheduled to meet with president trump. interestingly, both men hail from queens, new york, and that's an area that has been very hard hit by the virus. the tumultuous relationship the past few weeks had moments of praise but also occasional insult. cuomo recently accused the president of watching tv when he should be working and mr. trump accused cuomo of talking to reporters when he should be on the job. the president played video clips of andrew cuomo acknowledging to help the federal government and during today's meeting he said believe it or not, we get along okay. then he added they get together was cuomo's idea. >> president trump: is coming to the oval office tomorrow afternoon, andrew will be coming in with some of his people so we look forward to that. >> cuomo has repeatedly thanked the president for providing beds and ventilators but says

washington needs to do more. specifically he wants financial help to alleviate a budget shortfall which could be as much as $15 billion. he also wants assistance getting supplies to do widespread testing. >> i can't make the vials fast enough, i can't make the swabs fast enough. so i don't know what's right or what's wrong with that national supply chain question but that's where the federal government could help. but, should the state take the lead on the tests? yes. that's exactly right. >> cuomo travels to washington as the hospitalization rate and fatalities continue to decrease. according to the latest reports another 478 new yorkers lost their life to the virus. to put that number in perspective, 478 is significantly higher than the total number of people who tested positive for the virus in

the entire state of wyoming. >> ed: david lee miller, thank you. sandra? >> sandra: georgia set to reopen some businesses this week. what major should officials used to keep people safe? we will be asking dr. marc siegel who will join us live next hour. plus senate minority leader chuck schumer says a deal has been reached on a new relief bill to help out our small businesses. we will tell you the details and when we could soon see a vote when congressman dan kildee, the house with will join us next. >> president trump: we are getting the paycheck plan, 350 billion was approved essentially unanimously and we have another 250, that's a great thing that's happening. i think the fact that we are able to do all of this in a bipartisan way is great.

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♪ >> republicans have been trying to secure more funding for this critical program for a week and a half now. at this hour, our democratic colleagues are still prolonging their discussions with the administration. colleagues, it's past time to get this done for the country. >> ed: mitch mcconnell accusing democrats of holding up a new economic relief package. congressman, it's great to have you. nice to have you from the kitchen there, i hope you and your family are doing well. answer that charge for mitch mcconnell. for ten days now mitch mcconnell has said i'm ready to replenish the small business money and it seems to me you had chuck schumer and nancy pelosi delaying this. >> i don't know that they are delaying it, we are trying to get it right. we advocated for this in the first place, it's a program that we support and we need to do it, we need to do it as fast as we

can. but what we saw in the first iteration is even with the money that they had there were too many very small businesses that were being left out so they detail that is being worked on right now is to ensure that those really small businesses, even with the new money coming in, could again be overlooked. not overlooked but, i agree, we need to do this as fast as we can but we also need to get it right because we don't have another chance. >> ed: i take your point seriously so let's stay on that theme about how we get this right. i've mentioned the last couple days that we keep getting these letters from all around the country saying the big guys are getting the money and the mom-and-pop shops are on hold with the sba. the associated press has a story this morning. publicly traded firms, some who have market value of over $100 million got a total of $300 million in small business loans. they've got thousands of

employees, some of these companies. and again, mom and pop shops, and you know i'm not making this up in your own state are saying, i can get money. how do you fix it? >> there's a couple ways. one, some of those organizations have to look in the mirror and say whether they want to return this money. in return these loans. i know sometimes that was happening. but i know the legislation was refined enough to try to prohibit something like that from happening that would open the door for small businesses. i'm working on a specific piece with senator booker and senator daines, bipartisan effort to attempt to create basically a main street relief fund. some of this needs to go through the banks but for these very small businesses we know that they will be forgivable loans. we should get rid of the charade of treating it like it's a bank loan and just stand up and support these local relief funds that have been set up either by local governments or

philanthropies and get them resources to get cash grants to the beauty shops and the barbershops and the doughnut shops. that makes more sense and that's one of the things i've been pushing. >> ed: so in the last minute or so that we have, there's basically a deal on a $500 billion relief deal, not just small businesses but we are talking about money for hospitals. bottom line though when you talk about fixing it, politico has a story saying that banks are warning that even this new money that's coming in could evaporate in two days. so you are talking about a main street fund which might be a great idea as well but is there some limit at some point to the amount of money that washington is pumping out? >> i think the problem is, if we can't find a way to get adequate support like testing support to help stand of the economy back up again then we are going to have to keep going with the sort of help. what we want to make sure is that when we stand up again the small businesses are still

there. we are in a dire situation and i think we have to realize that it's a big problem that will require a big solution because to not step up with more money, i think ultimately cost us all far more than this big price tag. >> ed: lots of people hurting right now. dan kildee, we appreciate you coming in and presenting the ideas and talk about getting relief to the people who need it. obviously the state of michigan is very hard hit and we are still thinking about all of you there. thanks for coming in. sandra? >> sandra: as some states begin to reopen their economy, many restaurant owners worry they will have to move tables far apart making it may be harder to survive. celebrity chef david burke will weigh in on that next hour. but up next new concerns about food supplies as me packing plants have to close down across the country as some workers have been contracted covid-19. we will have a live report and

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>> sandra: meat-packing plants across the country are closing due to due to the coronavirus. good morning, mike. >> many are major meat producers at gbs, cargo and national beef, they've all had some shutdowns at their plants but it's not as simple as shut down and wait

until the risk has passed. governor kim reynolds of iowa notes that the meat-packers are an essential part of the food chain. disinfectant, bloggers, and restaurants and steak houses are closed. chad berger, and it's so severe, and lose money to the tune of about $400 per each head of cattle when he goes to market. he says we could get through this whole crisis and find there are fewer ranchers producing beef. >> they really need to step in and help these farmers and, that's to the point where a lot of these farmers and ranchers are beyond return, if they don't get some help, they are going under.

i just don't know -- i think it all starts with the farmer and rancher. without them we don't have an economy of anything at all. >> agriculture secretary sonny perdue says there is a relief package headed to farmers and ranchers involving $6 billion in direct payments and the usda is purchasing about $3 million worth of meat to be distributed to the needy. cattle ranchers don't have the option of just waiting until the demand goes up and the economy gets better. fee cost money and they can't turn cattle out to pasture because they usually have another herd that needs that land. their business model is based on efficiency and they have to keep that cycling through or they lose the money and lose the ranch. >> sandra: difficult times for them for sure. >> ed: some states meanwhile are beginning to reopen for business. so what do americans need to do to stay safe as more people start going back to work?

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>> sandra: fox news alert, governors facing a tough balancing act fighting the spread of the coronavirus while also focusing on restarting the economy. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom," i am sandra smith. >> ed: i'm ed henry. protests taking place all around america, something restrictions are violating their constitutional rights but several states are moving to ease restrictions including south carolina, georgia, alaska and tennessee. meanwhile, the president criticizing governor larry hogan for buying testing kits from south korea. >> the president had said that the states on the front lines and it need to go out there and get this testing done and that's exactly what we've tried to do. we were very successful after three weeks of negotiations to get the assistance of south korea and a couple of south korean companies to get

these tests delivered to our state. >> ed: jonathan serrie is live outside of the cdc headquarters in atlanta with more details. >> good morning to you. georgia governor brian kemp has announced he will allow certain businesses to open starting this friday, provided that they follow very strict social distance and guidelines. these businesses include fitness centers, bowling alleys, barbershops, massage therapists, hair salons and tattoo artists. starting next monday, movie theaters and dining restaurants will join the list. the governor says case numbers are trending in the right direction as is his state's ability to test and treat patience in the event of another spike. >> by expanding a hospital bed capacity including the temporary facilities of the georgia world congress center, we have the ability to treat patients without crisis care in hospital settings. >> the georgia governor is

getting some pushback from mayors in major cities including atlanta, savannah and also in his home of athens, clark coun clark county. meanwhile in neighboring tennessee where demonstrators protested business closures last weekend, governor bill lee has announced he will not extend his safer at home a quarter past the end of april and in fact will allow some businesses to reopen as early as next monday. however, tennessee's four major metropolitan areas which have their own local health departments may open on several schedules. separate schedules. >> for the good of our state, social distancing can continue but -- speak of the number of confirmed cases may be just a fraction of those infected. random antibody tests in los angeles county leads researchers at the university of southern california to believe

infection rates there may be 40 times higher than the number of confirmed cases. they also estimate about 4% of l.a. residents have at some point been infected with the coronavirus. the good news there is suggest that fatality rates are actually much lower than originally anticipated. the bad news, it's such a small percentage of the population, it means they may be very early on in the epidemic and many more people are likely to be infect infected. >> ed: one big reason to make sure we do this very carefully. >> sandra: for more on all this, let's bring in dr. marc siegel. the professor of medicine at nyu langone medical center and fox news contributor. always great to see you. let's start off on these individual states. you've been hearing from governors throughout the morning and you just heard from tennessee, we had the maryland governor on at the top of the show this morning talking about

how they will reopen their states. here's the georgia governor, camp, talking about the new normal for business in his sta state. >> each of these entities will be subject to specific restrictions. many of minimum basic operations includes but not limited to screening workers for fever and respiratory illness. enhancing workplace sanitation. wearing gloves and mask if appropriate. separating work spaces by at least 6 feet. >> sandra: when you hear that, dr. siegel, knowing those things are necessary, do you believe businesses can maintain that level of restriction on their employees? >> not across-the-board. if we look at georgia there is 19,000 cases and they peaked about two weeks ago. governor kemp seems to be following along with these guidelines of, maybe he is entering phase one and concert to reopen some businesses.

but let me tell you what the problem with that is, they are not all the same. it's not one-size-fits-all. if you look at something like a gym, you could have people separated by more than 6 feet in the gym. of course, the sweat bothers me and it's easy to cough and sneeze when working out so it's hard to be sure that that's the case. but what about a nail salon, or a hair salon? the person doing your hair can't possibly be obeying social distancing and even if you are screening them, we are missing a lot of cases as jonathan serrie just said. most cases are asymptomatic, some cases so variable symptoms and often times the tests aren't accurate so it's absolutely impossible to be sure that you are actually not missing cases. other states like south carolina and tennessee, tennessee has 7,000 cases. they haven't yet reached the decline and they haven't really flattened the curve and yet,

they are also talking about the same thing. i have legitimate concerns about an across-the-board reopening of businesses where it's impossible to follow social distancing. in a gym, maybe. hair salon, massage, body art, very hard to believe that will be some risk. >> sandra: the world health organization agrees and they've put out a dire warning about what we might see in the near future if we don't take all these precautions. here is the w.h.o. director running about the worst to come. >> the worst is yet ahead of us. let's prevent this tragedy. it's a virus that many people -- >> sandra: it's tough dr. siegel because you wake up in the morning and go to bed at night, you read the headlines and digging through the news and reading studies, trying to

figure out yourself your level of optimism as you head into another day of this. and it depends on where you look. you hear that warning and you think, what are the next few months and years going to look like? >> well first of all, i don't want to be political here but i wouldn't necessarily -- i would take what general tedros says with a grain of salt because it's a political organization, the world health organization. they are currently in a back-and-forth with president trump, president trump was disappointed with how they reacted initially. they called it a regional problem back in january when it was already spreading undetected to many countries in europe. then the world health organization became alarmist. the political arm, not talking about the medical websites that as physicians we rely on. i'm talking about this draconian statement that the worst is yet to come. we have about two and a half million people infected around the world and probably far more than that but, we are entering warmer weather and some of these

areas and dr. fauci and dr. redfield of the cdc have both told me they think this is a seasonal virus to some extent. he has no evidence whatsoever in my opinion that the worst is yet to come, i think that's a political pushback most likely to the president saying, we may defund you because of how you handled this. i wouldn't take that as a medical statement. >> sandra: there are a lot of debates out there and once whirls around just how much we should be leaning on testing to reopen the country. the rockefeller foundation put out this plan for nationwide testing. triple the current level of 1 million tests per week. ten times the increase nationally within six months, okay, adding 300,000 testers and contact tracers and the cost of that would be $100 billion. you think about the enormous effort it would take to test everyone, dr. siegel. >> i think that that's very ambitious but i will tell you to

the point jonathan serrie was making, there are so many asymptomatic people out there. and i have breaking news on this today. fda just approved a lab core for do-it-yourself test at home where you can do your own nasal swab and send it to the lab. that's going to absolutely improve systematicall this dramn terms of people with mild symptoms who can't get tested. then these antibody tests, there were 90 companies applying for approval but we need to standardize this so that we can tell, and that's where testing around the country has to occur. whole communities need to be tested. beaumont hospital is doing a very large study right now, new york state is doing a large study and they are doing it in california as we've been reporting. i would like to see antibody testing of an antibody that i can believe is accurate telling me who's been exposed, who's getting over it and who could potentially return to work. that will help us reopen the country. those antibodies will be

invaluable to help us know who is not a spreader, whose immune and whose over this already. >> sandra: you know dr. siegel, we have been warned about the illnesses that one can already have that can exacerbate this virus if you were to contract it. there's also a lot of talk about the stress that this is all causing on the system and how that affects our vulnerability to this virus. what can you tell us about that this morning, dr. siegel? >> sandra, that's probably the most important thing we are talking about today because stress makes you susceptible to infection. not to mention what it does for other diseases, anxiety, depression and heart disease. it puts you at greater risk of getting sick and always. if you don't eat properly, you don't sleep properly and you gain weight. in terms of this virus, this virus tends to hit people hardest to have diabetes, who have obesity, heart disease or emphysema, who are smoking. so people at home are nervous,

if they are stressed or smoking or drinking, they are much more likely if they were to get covid-19 to have a complication and that's the subgroup that we are most worried about. it's hard for me to go on tv and say everyone should relax under the circumstances but if you can go about business as usual and you can manage to have an exercise routine and you can watch your diet and try to get the proper sleep, you will decrease your risk here of all medical problems across problems across-the-board sandra. >> sandra: you think, dr. siegel, above the stress that we have what we are hunkered down in our homes trying to stop the spread but then when things start to reopen we go back out there and go back to work, get on mass transportation and as you said venture back into these businesses. we will have a different stress which will be exposing ourselves and getting in closer proximity to people while social distancing. final thoughts? >> that's a great point, too.

that's why we have to -- i don't like the idea of new normal but i like the idea that we've learned to to wash her hands all the time, disinfect certain surfaces, to sleep well, stay well hydrated. all of this we have to bring forward and you know what we'll do happen if we do all this? we will cut down on all respiratory viruses going forward in a way that will help us. >> sandra: that's a great point. drdr. siegel, great point, see u again soon. ♪ >> ed: lets go international now. many countries around the world taking small steps to go up and running as well. some businesses in germany opening their doors this week but many aspects of the lockdown will be in place for a long time. benjamin hall is live in london with more details from europe. good morning benjamin. >> good morning, eddie. every country we are looking out at the moment is trying to find a way to get their economies up

and running again but in the safest way possible and that is true across the world, particularly here in europe. in germany we are now seeing car factories, the very backbone of the german economy as well as smaller shops returning to business. but with a warning from angela merkel saying if the infection rate rises again they could and would impose a second more severe lockdown. then markets going even further, reopening most schools this week in addition to hair salons, dentists and even tattoo parlors. they are saying they are using widespread testing to make sure they outbreak doesn't flare up again. norway, poland and the czech republic also opening up. probably the most controversial is spain which continues to see large numbers of cases but has to restart their faltering economy. they have allowed factory and construction work to restart even though people remain on lockdown. in the middle east, they have begun easing some of their restrictions. people there can move 500 meters away from their home or

workplace if it's to pray or exercise. almost all countries are looking at tracking apps, something that would notify the users if they come into contact with an infected person or within 2 meters of them. in chile, they are issuing immunity passports to those who have recovered. also, we seen a city in the northeast of china going on lockdown again because of increasing cases they are. don't forget sweet and never went into lockdown. instead they just asked their citizens to observe social distancing measures and they have not seen a dramatic rise in cases like many other places. very interesting to see how each country is playing this out. >> ed: absolutely, we are seeing that play out here and states in america, too. >> sandra: joe biden releasing a series of campaign ads targeting the president over his covid-19 response. and of china. is this the best way for the former vice president to take on president trump?

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trying to do everything he can to put their health of the american people for us during this crisis. this is one step, not do similar to the travel restrictions in china that he implemented back on generate 29th at the very outset of this public health crisis. >> ed: that was national security advisor robert o'brien expressing support for shutting down the nation's borders completely. that's the latest move from president trump in his battle for i can say coronavirus pandemic. in light of the attack from an invisible enemy, i will be signing an executive order to temporarily suspend immigration into the united states. good morning ari. obviously the border is not shut down for commerce but he is saying, the president, he shutting it down for all legal immigration. doesn't make sense? >> i'm not sure it does or doesn't and here's just a difference in approach. when you have a major policy announcement like this which has lots of implications and lots of legitimate questions about it, why make it in a tweet at

10:00 p.m.? think about it, the president that has 5:00 news conference tonight explained it and gave depth to it and explain why it's necessary, defended it, promoted it and then took questions. i think we would all feel better and understand more about why this step is necessary when apparently all the bees saw officers anyway aren't processing the paperwork. so what's the need for this? shutting down immigration to america sort of doesn't sound good. we are a nation of immigrants so what's the reasoning? that's my objection, and i haven't heard his reasoning for it. >> ed: so from a communication standpoint you clearly believe it could've been handled better. but let's just look at it quickly from the economic standpoint as a president mentioned. you got 22 million people at least to have filed unemployment claims and may be still counting. the president is worried about jobs, make sense from that standpoint. >> its communications and substance. i haven't heard enough of why we

should take the step when apparently immigration has already shut down. nobody is coming as an immigrant, we are not processing the paperwork on the border with mexico and canada is effectively closed anyway and international flights are coming in with immigrants. so i don't understand it. i want to hear more, i'm not necessarily opposing it yet. but when you say something as stark as that, shutting down immigration, it ought to be better explained from the onset. >> ed: we will save the president does it at that news briefing this evening. let's talk about facebook. you see people pushing and protesting and saying, we want freedom, we are tired of the stay-at-home orders. facebook puts out the statement saying they are not going to allow posts about the protest. for the same as in the offense that defy government's guidance on social distancing are not allowed on facebook. does this then cracking down on free speech?

>> yes, this is dumb. this is where facebook puts itself in an impossible position where they try to be the arbeiter of things like this in a freedom loving, democratic country. you don't do that here. this is the same social media that allows terrorists to continue to push things. now we are cracking down on americans constitutional right to gather on facebook as opposed to some of the things that terrorists are free to post up there? hate groups are free to post up there? this is a big mistake by facebook and they should let americans have a sense of reasonableness and let this play out. i still think if you are going to protest, socially distance yourself. at the right way to protest but we have a constitutional right to protest. >> ed: no doubt about it. the bottom line here in terms of 2020, people starting to talk a little bit more about the campaign and it's all been somewhat shut down as people

focus on covid-19. joe biden and some of his allies out with this new addict, talking about china and president trump. >> trump praise the chinese as a coronavirus spread across the world. >> ed: another was a tweet in january no doubt where the president praised transparency from china. on the other hand there's a pro trump pack out there with the hashtag beijing biden. some say it was xenophobic to shutdown travel from china which you noted him on the ago when we were talking about immigration, how can joe biden claimed it was a president that was too close to china? >> and then joe biden flip-flopped on his accusation that president trump was in a phobic, he endorsed, waylaid, president trump shutting down travel. if the issue becomes china, donald trump will win.

joe biden can't win that. the way he has approached china from the beginning, and his distrust of china that counters joe biden's entire career. how many pictures do you want to see if joe biden toasting chinese officials? if he wants to engage on china's front it's a losing battle but this will be a huge issue in the campaign and after the campaign. our rivalry with china is an important one, a serious one and much of the future is going to depend on whether china behaves itself or continues to be an international basic outlaw. speaking something the president has been talking about going back to the 2016 campaign. they could be essential again in 2020. especially no more than ever. ari fleischer, thanks for coming in. >> sandra: oil prices meanwhile turning negative for the first time in history as demand disappears during this pandemic. so what does it all mean for the future of oil production? plus, the push to provide a coronavirus relief for our small

businesses. if the white house and congress come closer to a deal, what can we expect? kevin hassett, senior advisor to president trump will be here to weigh in. we welcome him back. >> we are into conversation with final language. we have i believe come to terms on the principal. which is a good thing. but it's always in the fine print. ♪

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we would see negative oil pric prices? >> you know you ask a difficult question but the answer is surprisingly, yes. because of the way these markets work, every now and then people have to take delivery because that's when it's scheduled to happen and they run out of storage. economists have known for a long time that this kind of thing could happen. yesterday morning after i was on maria's show i went back to talk to some of my assistance and we said they could go negative today and it did. because again if you take delivery and you don't have a place to put it then what do you do? you can't dump it on the ground or light it on fire or somethi something. >> sandra: but kevin as an economist and someone advising the president, what does this tell us about this current state of our economy that we would see oil prices not only fall as much as they have but ultimately go negative? >> this is a very, very short run disruption, and the president said it exactly right.

we stopped in order to control the virus and we've never really stopped the economy before. so strange things will happen while people stay at home and don't drive. what happens is, the refinery a month ago called the saudis and said can you float some oil over to us. the oil starts off and is shipping across the ocean and all of a sudden we reap turn the economy off and they have no place to put it. it's a very short run thing because people are going to adjust down the production and people will adjust down the refining capabilities. pretty soon things will find a new normal. the most important thing to remember is all these policies that we are pushing, that secretary mnuchin has been working with the house and senate leaders to get this done hopefully maybe today or tomorrow, we are building a bridge to the other shore when we can open up again and everything looks like it's working well. the small business loans are keeping people attached to their employers.

when, the economies will turn back on. i don't think we will see this again. you basically have a deal for $500 billion to float more money to small businesses, struggling in america to right now. do you have a deal, do you think about it in the senate could come as early as today? >> you know i'm just an economist and not involved in the in negotiation but when we were meeting this morning in the west wing, it sounds like we were very, very close to the deal. i fully expected. i think that we've been very pleased to see that people have been putting their partisan

differences aside. and hopefully as the disease disappears, you can turn the economy back on and everything will still be in place so we can get going again quickly. this morning i heard that they were really, really close but i didn't hear that they were final. but i've never heard them say they were really close and then have a deal fall apart. >> ed: a lot of people are counting on that money. on the question of the loans, i had a business leader text me this morning and say he's hearing a lot of reports that the big banks like chase are not putting these loans through in part because of some of the restrictions from dodd-frank. and that's frustrating a lot of people. where some of these laws created after the financial crisis? were they meant to help the little guy against the big banks, are they actually hurting you in the process because the banks might be handcuffed to actually loan some of the small businesses money?

>> i know this is something that the bank regulators and the federal reserve that they are following very, very closely, and that forbearance might be it in necessary to make sure everyone gets the money they need to. but remember the reason why we need this new bill is the program was so successful that they are running out of money. so there are a lot of people getting loans but rather everyone that should get a loan has gotten a loan is something that regulators are looking closely into right now. >> sandra: kevin, you are talking about flipping the switch back on and i heard you say during this interview, turning it back on. a lot of people don't think it's going to be that easy, and not a v-shaped recovery, possibly more u-shaped. you are talking now and a brand-new interview about second quarter gdp taking the biggest hit since the great depression. so how hard have we been hit? put a number to it. and are you really anticipating that quick of a snap back the economy?

>> i think that it is a grave economic situation for sure and we are looking at one of the biggest shock that any major economy has ever experienced and a decline in gdp and the second quarter that could end up being the biggest we've ever posted because so many things have just shut down. even like shutting down schools has a really big negative effect on gdp because then they don't count, even if the teachers are being paid to come they don't count the production of the school in gdp numbers and that alone is like three 3% of gdp. if you had it all up you are looking at a big negative number and the question is what happens next? sadly economic science doesn't tell us what happens something happens like this because it's a pause. because of the really smart action we take and we sort of kept people connected to their jobs with these loans to small businesses and so there is the chance that this won't turn into a lengthy recession. but, it's a chance. we don't know for sure because this is unprecedented territory and that's why i think that partisanship has been put aside

and people are taking big actions because we are experiencing the biggest shock that this economy has ever seen. >> sandra: i know the white house is glad to have you back this morning. thanks for being on this program. >> ed: covid-19 continues to take a toll on the restaurant industry and some businesses have shuttered, simply shut down for good. what will the situation look like for the ones that do survive, will it be worth reopening? celebrity chef david burke joins us next on how they deal with social distancing their va streamline refi helps you take advantage of some of the lowest mortgage rates we've ever seen. one call to newday can save you $2000 a year. one call can lower your payments by this time next month without verifying your income, without getting your home appraised, and without one dollar out of pocket. it's the quickest and easiest loan newday's ever offered.

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♪ >> ed: as some states start reopening their economies, many restaurant open owners are simply where they will never be able to come back because of continued social distancing, spreading tables out to cut down on revenue. we've been talking for a few

days to have you on, just this morning, you learned you are not getting a small business loan. what happened. >> we got a letter from citibank either late last night or early this morning. we missed the first cut. they said it, there's no guarantee we will make the second cut if there is more money that gets funded, they will consider our application but we missed the first cut. now we got off to a really good start early on but citibank was behind. they didn't take applications until friday of the first week and not on monday. so i don't know -- >> ed: i keep hearing that from small businesses around the country, they say the big guys are getting the money, and restaurant employees as we understand it, there have been 8 million restaurant employees who have been furloughed around america so it's not just about you getting the loan but all the people working beneath you. talk about the pressure this puts on you in terms of keeping your business afloat?

>> it puts a lot of pressure on because it costs a lot of money to get reopening. we also have to be able to pay our employees more than what they are making on unemployment to get back to work, otherwise they won't want to come back to work right away. we are doing a couple projects where we are trying to help, we are doing a program called feed to heroes which is raising money for some of our employees and first responders, but it puts a lot of pressure on the timing of when we can get open. for example, if we could get open mid-may we still won't have money from the first round. or even the second round, how long will it take? so i can't strategize, i can't plan or tell people when they are coming back to work. you can't get them in ahead of time, so it puts principal pressure. we were optimistic yesterday and now we are a little defeated. >> ed: i can hear that inner voice and you are speaking for a

lot of people in the country who want to reopen and do it sensibly and carefully, obviously making sure everyone's health is okay but you also want to get your life's work going again. i'm sure -- i can't even begin to understand how difficult this is for you and a lot of other business owners around the country personally and then add to that the social distancing guidelines which, again, everyone wants to follow but we keep hearing from the president on down that restaurants might have to be 6 feet apart in the tables. >> yeah. and it seems to me, it's always talking about restaurants. not elevators, office buildings, schools, mass transit, it's always restaurants. restaurants, some of them are going to be difficult. the small restaurants in the big cities, i don't know how you social distance, you do the best you can. the room behind a bar is pretty limited. if you have one bartender, i get it.

cooks on the line, these restaurants in new york city are not built for social distance. and we will figure it out. we are resilient and we'll figure it out. maybe reservations, 20 people come from five until six. schedule timing, outdoor seating. we will bring back the glass truck, you could eat outside in the glass truck. luckily we have four different room so we can seat one room with eight and another one. a statement so you have a contingency plan. maybe we will go on social media next week and i will cook with you. i know you've done that with riverview medical center and maybe will bring something to my cohost, sandra. >> that would be good to come and go to chef david burke.com and click check out our cooking videos with my puppet, we are bringing joy to people that way. >> ed: you have to lift spirits anyway you can.

we are thinking about you, lots of people in your industry are hurting. and sandra will get some food coming her way. >> sandra: i love the optimism. we will figure it out, he says. all right, meanwhile the transportation industry cutting service across the board and taking a major hit amid the pandemic when millions go back to work. will the trains and buses be able to keep up? david's font is live in alexandria, virginia, with more on that. hey, david. >> i'm standing in front of 1 oe d.c. area completely closed because of coronavirus. when things finally return to normal it will be a difficult sell to get hundreds of people to pack into each other on a train or a bus. >> you put people on a bus or on a subway, you put people in a retail store, then you are going to see more infections and you will see that infection rate rise and then you are going to be back to where we were.

>> mass transit is the lifeblood of large cities in the metro transit authority in new york continues to deal with blow after blow. at last check, 68 people working for the mta have lost their lives and within 2400 subway and bus employees are covid-19 positive. the mta is asking for another $4 billion from the federal government to keep the company afloat. >> $4 billion was an initial estimate of our operating budget loss and it was conservative given the information we had at the time on march 17. at that point subway ridership was down 60%. it's now down about 95%. >> here in the d.c. area of the story is just as grandma come ridership down 92% just in this area. we are seeing this all across the country and the big challenge for many from boston to new york to san francisco to washington is how to move forward and get these people to

have confidence in mass transit because certainly, sandra, things will be a lot different when things return to normal and people go back to work. >> sandra: it will take a lot of coordination. >> ed: millions of college students adjusting to online learning as uncertainty looms over the fall semester i made the pandemic. how covid-19 is impacting higher education. plus with sports i want hold wife y fed up fans are now going after major league baseball, its teams and ticket sellers, coming up.

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>> ed: it's governor andrew cuomo in buffalo, new york, this morning about to address reporters getting out of his meeting with president trump at 4:00 p.m. eastern today. we'll have live coverage of that and in the meantime, here's a governor. >> we are in western new york, buffalo. we've been talking a lot about new york city and the situation in new york city and long island, westchester and rockland, the suburbs of new york city. but just as we are seeing across the country, this virus presents a slightly different problem in different parts of the country. it also presents a different problem in different parts of the state. overall the total hospitalizations are basically flat from where they were

yesterday. and as you see, the overall curve is on the way down and that is good news certainly. the net change in hospitalizations is down, not down as much as we would like. change in intubation's is down and that's always good news because integrations means the person is on a ventilator, at 80% of the time when people are on a ventilator if they don't come off the ventilator and a way. the number of new people in the state who walked in the door yesterday or where it diagnosed with covid is 1300. that is down, and that's good news relative to really bad news which is what was happening up until then. we have to remember our calculus of good. our definition of good has

changed here. good is now not terrible. but on an absolute scale. at 1300 people walk in the door with covid on a single day in the state of new york, that would not be good news in any other context besides the context we are living in. this is erie county, buffalo is in erie county, new york. you see the numbers. we headed t to a dramatic incree in erie county, and basically a leveling flat, little uptick yesterday. number of total hospitalizations in erie, three day average, again basically flat. these numbers, i would not take any of these one day numbers or even three day numbers as absolute. this is a new reporting mechanism that was put in place. so from a statistical point of view, i don't know exactly what the margin of error is come with all due respect to the great

statisticians doing this. we've been watching the spread all across the state because this is like stamping out a brush fire. you need to run to where the fire is and put it out there so we were watching for the spread of the fire from downstate new york towards upstate. whenever we see a small fire starting we jump on it right away. testing, isolation et cetera. but that has remained fairly constant and that's also good news. but the point that different regions of the country have different "curves." the virus does not hit at the same time, at the same rate. so you hear about different states in the country and wa whn they are going to hit their impact, apex. it's also different across the

state. we've been talking about states like they are uniform homogenous entities. some are more homogenous than others. when i was in the federal government i worked in every state so you have a whole different variety of states. this state, we have very different regions within new york. when you say new york people think new york city. yes. at one of the densest places on the globe. you also have upstate new york, where in some counties you have more cows than people. people don't think of new york that way. so as you sue you variety it across the country we have a radio across the state of new york. you have to watch each one of those individual curves and, when does that region at a high point? part of that is how you have to

calculate your strategy. you are looking with those curves, how long is the ascent up the mountain? and how long are we on that plateau and how long is the dissent from the plateau? western new york, i believe we are on the plateau. now the question is how long are we on that plateau and is it a plateau or might it still ascend? downstate new york it appears we are on the descent. and then the question becomes an downstate new york, how quickly do we descend? the worst news and the really ugliest part of my job these days is telling new yorkers this news. in erie county, we lost seven hospital deaths yesterday for a total of 125. in the state, we lost 481

people. 452 in hospitals and 29 in nursing homes. again, nursing homes are a central focus and priority for all of us going to that. where are we today? we are operating with two rules. first rule is to do no harm in second rule is start to plan the reopening. planning the reopening is just that, plan the reopening. i understand it, calculated and calibrated. how do you do it and when do you do it? but first role, rule, do no harm. we paid a tremendous price to make the progress we have made today. we have paid a tremendous price to control this beast. if we closed down everything, people have worked tirelessly in the health care system, in the first responders and essential workers. you showed you can control the beast. do no harm. don't go backwards. that's a first point. then plan the reopening.

on the do no harm, you take a place like erie county or any region in the country or in the state that is still on the ascent or on the plateau. beware of a hot spot. beware of an increased need. in this state, what we have said is, any need anywhere in the state. the rest of the state will surge capacity and equipment and energy to help that part of the state. so when downstate new york needed help him upstate new york was there. if upstate new york needs help or western new york needs help or central new york needs help, the rest of the state will be there. and you have my word on that. in these crises, pressure brings out the best and the worst in

people. i believe that individually. you get to see how a person responds at a time of crisis. you get a little snapshot of their character and of their foundation. it's also true of the collective. it's also true of society. and when i say we have to move to help western new york, yeah. there will be some places in the state where you hear a voice that says, no, we have to worry about ourselves. we have to take care of us and they are on their own the way we are on our own. that's not how we operate in new york. nobody is on their own. we are one state, we are one family, we are one community and we are here to help one another so whatever erie county needs or western new york needs, you have my word that the rest of the state will be responsive. hopefully, we are on this plateau and on the other side of the plateau is a descent.

so we can manage it. but if it's not a descent and it's in absent anywhere in the state, the rest of the state will be there. and part of it is, testing, testing, testing. i know it's a granular topic but it is important. we are also going to have a regional calibration that we are going to make on hospitals. you have many hospitals that are very quiet. some hospitals are actually laying off people, believe it or not, in the middle of this, because they have no patients. we artificially stopped the number of patients going into a hospital because we ended what is called elective surgery, elective treatment. and people can't go into the hospital for an elective procedure. in the parts of those states and

in the hospitals where the they are laying off people because they are so quiet and they have that capacity and capacity for the virus is not an issue, we are going to allow elective outpatient treatment which means the number of beds remain available because the number of people using those beds is still relatively minimal. and we are going to allow it in those hospitals and counties in the state that do not have a covid issue, or wouldn't need the beds in case of a surge. this will not include westchester, rockland, new york city hospitals et cetera because we still have a real covid problem there. it wouldn't include erie county or albany county or dutchess or several other counties where we still need to protect us hospital beds in case we need them for covid.

on testing, people need to understand this issue because it's going to be determinative and it's complicated and it's been somewhat politicized and now you hear different arguments about testing. here are the simple facts. again, testing is something that no one would have expected as an issue. testing we do in this country, and nobody really noticed. we have a whole system into the private sector system. when you went to the hospital and the doctor said it you have to have your child checked for this or you have to be checked for this, you go to the lab and have your blood tested, that was a testing system. no one ever imagined this testing system is going to become hyper relevant to survival and would need a capacity of 20, 30, 40 or 50 times with the system was doing.

so this came out of the blue in many ways. and it's one of the lessons we will learn. but for us, it came out of the blue. how does it work? you have national companies that have private manufacturers of laboratory equipment and their piece of equipment can operate their test kits. okay? and there are a number of these private sector companies. they make the machine, they sell that machine to a lab, a network of labs all across the nation. we have about 211 labs in new york state. they buy these machines from these national companies and they then have that machine. sometimes, they buy a number of machines from different manufacturers and now they have a number of different machines. some have higher outputs and some have lower.

but each one requires that you go back to that manufacturer to get a test kit and reagent that works for that manufacturer is. okay? so it gets very complicated quickly. there are different what they call reagents, chemicals that you need for each manufacturers test kit and each manufacturers machine. the big labs will have bought a number of different machines from a number of different manufacturers. okay. so these are some of the big manufacturers, not all of them. you hear about a habit, which has a new fast tests. these companies are all working to come up with these tests now and who is faster and who's quicker, one hour test, 20 minute test, 15 minute test, five-minute test. but every one of those

manufacturers, you need to have their test kit and they are reagent to work on their machine and you have some labs that are manufacturing machines. when you go to manufacturers, when you say you need to go to capacity many of the manufacturers are saying, i can't. i can't get enough reagents, i can't get enough swabs, these cotton swabs. i can't get enough vials. i just don't have enough material for my own test kits. that's the determiner of the testing capacity. you are asking the system that normally did 1,000 tests, you are asking a system of 1,000 tests, by the way i need 50,000

tests. so they didn't anticipate this volume. some of these manufacturers will say, look. i have a supply chain that is an international supply chain etiquette my chemicals from china, i get my chemicals from here. so that ability to ramp up is what we are all struggling with. and every state is in charge of administering testing, because the 200 labs in new york state are regulated by new york state. i regulate the 200 labs. it's only appropriate that the state should be in charge of actual testing in the state. i agree with the federal government's position on that. i have 200 labs and i should come up with a system that says how many tests in buffalo, how many tests in albany, how many tests in manhattan, how many tests in long island, that's my

business. i should be held responsible. i should be held responsible for making sure those 200 labs actually deploy across the state in a smart way. hold me responsible. where it gets hard is when the labs that i regulate say the manufacturers are the problem. then i called the manufacturers and the manufacturers say i can't do it because it's an international problem. that's where we are now. last night, i get home. i have my three daughters with me now which is a joy 99.9% of the time. we are sitting there and watching the news. governor larry hogan comes on the news. great guy, government mike governor of maryland, and governor hogan says, i bought 500 test kits from south korea. and there's a picture of governor hogan at the airport,

south korea airliner, and governor hogan says, i got 500 test kits from south korea. and my daughter turns to me and looks at me and says, wow, that was really smart. she just looks at me. doesn't say anything else. she didn't have to. i felt an immediate wave of guilt descend upon me. one of my other daughters who is a little more pointed in life, a little more literal said it, why didn't you think of that, dad? why didn't you think about buying test gets from south korea? so then i'm feeling de minimis as a governor, larry hogan is a better governor. why didn't i think of buying test gets from south korea? why didn't i think of buying them from korea, china? it's not what states are normally responsible for. god bless larry hogan, he really thought outside the box and was very creative. but that peace is where the

federal government can help us. take that national manufacturer and that supply chain for the national manufacturers and let the federal government figure out south korea and china and international supply issues rather than have 50 states now figure out how to go be like governor hogan and figure out how to buy tests in south korea? that's where the federal government should help and that's the intelligent distribution of responsibility. on testing. so the federal government is right. the states should take the lead. yes. partnership, federal government, you have to help us with this national manufacturer and supply list. after you do the testing, states have a second big task, put together an army of tracers who then trace each person who tested positive, who did they

contact, and then isolate those people who you contact. also, talking about reopening. we are going to make reopening decisions on a regional basis. based on that regions facts and circumstances about the covid virus. in other words just like some states would reopen, and their status with covid, it's also true across the state. most countries have a different situation in then new york city. we operate as one state but we also understand variations and you do want to get this economy open as soon as possible and if the situation is radically different in one part of the state then under the part of the state is taking part of the

situation. so the same logic that applies for the country applies to some states, the state, where you have those varieties across the state. and we need to take that into consideration. where we recognize there is one state, yes. but there are regional economies in the state, and we will do the same thing on this phase. let's talk about reopening the economies in that regional context and that's what we are going to be doing. let's not talk about reopening.

how do we use this as an opportunity to learn the lessons and build back better? >> sandra: you been listening to it governor andrew cuomo of new york and he is giving a daily briefing from buffalo, new york. he is the president this afternoon talking about the importance of testing when starting to reopen new york on a regional basis. he said it's complicated, and we need to do this based on the facts. we will allow an elective outpatient surgery he said, transitioning to the hospitals that we are seeing in areas where the covid spread is not an urgent concern. so that was some big news from the governor of new york as well. we'll continue monitoring at briefing for news and then we will know more as he visits the president later this afternoon at the white house. back to you, eddie. >> ed: let's get some

republican reaction. house minority leader kevin mccarthy is kind enough to join us. we've been listening to governor cuomo and his meeting with the president of the united states at 4:00 p.m. eastern today in the oval office. what are your thoughts about these two leaders coming together as we see the curve flattening in places like new york? >> i think it's right. i watch this present work with different governors across country. i happen to come from california and i know governor gavin newsom speaks very highly of the interactions he's had with this president. when you think of those navy ships going to new york and california, when you look at unfortunately the number of deaths that we have had, 55% of those from covid come from new york and new jersey. that's where the president had built the hospitals and make sure that testing, when you look at per capita in new york, louisiana and the hot spots we are testing more than anyplace else in the world. it's appropriate to continue to work together to find the best solution so we can open this country back up in a safe

manner. >> ed: as you reopen it there are a lot of small businesses as you know better than i that are hurting from california to new york and pretty much everywhere in between. is there a deal to extend the funding for small business loans or not? >> there is a deal that is done, but we didn't have to be here. two weeks ago we set this money was going to run out. because remember what this is, this is to keep people employed and keep small businesses able to stay afloat while the government told them they had to shut down. if you look at this we saved 30 million jobs through this program but there are 700,000 applications sitting there. nancy pelosi has stopped it, and when you look at these democra democrats, you look at shy paul, our aoc celebrating the price of oil dropping to where we've never seen it at historical levels were thousands of jobs will be laid off. thursday we will get the new unemployment numbers and that will be pelosi's unemployment. she did not have to do this.

this is a program that works better than any program we've seen. we were able to move in 14 days the amount of money that small business administration has been able to move in 14 years. think of that, 30 million job saved but how many people got laid off this week simply because democrats wanted to use leverage to change the direction and the restructuring of government, like their number three, he said was the goal of coronavirus to do. >> ed: we had dan kildee on this morning his other reason why it was delayed, this is his explanation and i will give you a chance to respond. if they want to get it right because a lot of big companies are getting the money and mom and pop shops are not getting the money. they claim that's what they were trying to use their leverage on and nancy pelosi was on cnn last night saying that you and the president have basically failed on widespread testing. your response? >> [laughs] well, let's see. it's 73% of the dollars went to small businesses that had a

payroll of less than $60,000. 60% of all the money i went through banks of the small size, 10 billion or less, the facts just don't add up. if that was a case why did nancy pelosi hold of the cares act to burden the green new deal, our fight to have more money for the kennedy center or a national endowment for the arts? their actions do not speak correctly to what they are trying to say. if we look at testing self we are learning that every single day we are learning something new about this virus. remember we did not invite the virus here, we did not want to. it came from a distant land that lied to the world. 95% of this would never happen to the latest study had china not lied to. this president has been able to do something that we've never seen before in america and that to me, they have to stop playing politics. the answer that nancy pelosi gave sitting with her refrigerator and her ice cream while thousands of jobs are being laid off, there's no answer for that. there's 22 million reasons why the democrats should have said

yes two weeks ago. how many million more are going to get laid off because of her delay? that's going to be the answer that's coming on thursday. >> ed: and mr. leader, in the last moment we have i seem to remember there was a young man who won $5,000 in a lottery and started a deli out in california. that man was kevin mccarthy, i think the deli was called kevin o. so you understand mom and pop shops perhaps. but others are saying the big guys are getting the money, and the small ones with five or ten employees are not getting it. so how do you fix this? so more of the kevin mccarthy's and the delis actually get the money? >> you are right. i made him a number of our decisions around the kitchen table. i had our ambulance company that called and she was in tears, with the insurance company called up everybody they laid off and told them they were coming back to work.

we have 700,000 applications sitting there and we want to make sure you get it right. there are going to be some problems but i was on the phone with the president and secretary mnuchin yesterday making sure that that's not going to happen, we will go after those big companies that cheat the system but the system is only for companies that have less than 500 employees and 74% of that has done right. >> ed: mr. leader, thanks for coming in. sandra? >> sandra: the coronavirus crisis may have long-lasting impact on millennials, affecting not only their economic future but also their political attitudes. we will explain why, next. >> we certainly understand the frustration, the president is as eager as anyone to reopen for business but we want to do it safely. one call to newday can save you $2000 a year. with newday's va streamline refi

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is largely up to the states. up but then even the federal government will stand there and do a whole presentation on what they are doing on testing, so it's not really up to the states if the fema people get up there and an admiral gets up there and talks about what they are doing on testing. all right, so they are not just coordinate who does what. what do the states do, what does the federal government do? what do you do and what do i do? i will do whatever i'm supposed to do, just tell me what i do and what are you going to do, and i'm going to ask them to take this piece of this national manufacturer's getting the test kits and the vials in the cotton swabs in the chemicals. and if they get that done for the national manufacturer's end than the national manufacturer's can lead my 211 labs than the states can take it from there. >> governor, thanks again for

joining us. there is continued frustration over unemployment. we have folks calling, emailing daily saying that 72 hour window where they were promised a phone call back has come and gone. what can you say to them to ease their frustration and what's being done to smooth the process? >> they are right. they are right. i will tell you the bad news in the good news. the bad news is there were so money unemployment claims that it has collapsed the unemployment departments system. their website system and their phone system. we have 1,000 people who are now working on that unemployment website and phone call system. it's unbelievable. a thousand people just to take

the incoming unemployment calls. that's how high the volume is. and they still can't keep up with the volume. and there's nothing worse than being unemployed and nervous about a paycheck and then you call for unemployment benefits and you can't get through on the phone. i got it. i got it. then you have a thousand people working on it, we have a guru working on it, we have all these experts working on it but they are trying to bring up a system again that did a much, much lower capacity. this is 100 times whatever we have ever done before. the good news is this. you are going to get the same benefit anyway, it's not like it's costing you money, right? i know it's frustrating, but once you qualify, the qualification is retroactive so you are going to get the same benefit. it's not costing you any money, it's not because you could make the call today it means you will

not get the benefit. we will get the benefit. it's just an annoying delay. and believe me, people are working seven days a week on it. i will take one more. >> governor. as far as your regional committee's goal, at those regional committees started meeting yet? what's the timetable for that and what will it take for you to say, okay, we have enough data, open up this particular region. >> okay. there are no committees here. we boys talked about the economy of the state in terms of different regions. manhattan is not buffalo. >> ed: the governor of new york andrew cuomo talking about state issues, previously talking about his upcoming meeting with the president of the united states at 4:00 p.m. eastern and we will obviously be covering now. he wants to get money for his state and he and the president will be meeting later today. in the meantime, let's get over to sandra. >> sandra: all right, more on all this now with "the wall street journal"'s

jerry said. we've been listening to the new york governor, breaking news on changes that are happening in his state. how they are going to reopen and how they are going to test. your newest piece in "the wall street journal," you write about the implications and the effect that this all has on the millennial generation in your new piece titled" coronavirus deepens millennials feelings, they can't get a break." one of the great aftershocks in the right of the crisis will be its impact on the economic trajectory and political attitudes of people born in the 1980s and 90s. you start out in that piece by saying, picture yourself in the shoes of a 32-year-old graduated college in 2009, loaded up on student debt. you walk out of college and you walk right into the great recession. the greatest recession since the great depression. in all of these things happen ten years later, now this. it's a struggle. >> it's a struggle.

the thing is in the intervening ten years and decades, it was a struggle just to catch up. i think a lot of the people in that cohort finally caught up. i've talked to millennial since may be 2017 and 2018 and i felt like we finally caught up with the professional track we were supposed to be on at the light track we were supposed to be on. now this gets hit and they are hit harder economically than anyone else. we did a poll last weekend, more people in the age of the 18-3232 cohort, so they are not hit hardest by the virus itself. they are probably hit hardest by the economic aftershock and that's going to play out now probably for years to come from these people. >> sandra: we think about what the implications are for the economy and when you look at that group of people, that 22% of the u.s. population, the age range that you are talking

about, 4.1% unemployment rate for those. who knows what that is at this very moment. $501 billion in student loan debt among that group, those are all pew research numbers. what does that mean as a consumer, in a consumer driven economy? those people will not be out spending money in stores. they will not be buying new cars. as you said, putting off big life events like not getting married. >> people say don't feel too sorry for the millennials because they have lots of advantages. to a certain extent that's true but it's a triple whammy because they live through 9/11 in grade school or junior high and then the 2008-2009 financial meltdown and now this. one of the things they do is put off big life decisions in some cases like i can't get married, we can't have kids, i can't buy a house. those economic effects ripple out to everyone else so it's not just millennials but people who may want to sell a house sometime in the next few years and discover the buying public has kind of been undercut by

this phenomenon. one of the things we learned in 2008, 2,009-inch 2010 is that recovery from these kinds of socks are not quick. if they takes years to catch up. so this coronavirus crisis may be over by, you pick the date early this year or next year. the aftereffects will live on and it's not just for millennials. >> sandra: that's interesting. labor secretary lou eugene scalia was asked about this and what we are doing to reach out to them on the story last night and here's how he responded. >> we are doing all we can to make sure, two things. first that we get the unemployment benefits to them and work with the state and help them make that happen but second position ourselves to get back to the economy that we had just weeks ago. >> sandra: and that's the bottom line, right? get the economy going again. rising tide lifts all boats and that's going to be the bottom line, it's important for all of us to get things going again. final thought?

>> one of the questions everyone is dealing with here is what kind of structural damage is being done along the way here and nobody really knows the answer that question. will the recovery be the bounce back that people thought, and in many of those cases the millennials might move back to where they were but i think there's a lot of uncertainty there and more for them than most people. >> sandra: interesting piece in "the wall street journal." thank you for your time this morning. >> ed: with businesses starting to open back up in several states, many schools will still offer remote learning for the rest of the academic year. so how will parents juggle all this? homeschooling and returning to work. harris faulkneharris faulkner hl town hall with parents, students and educators but first she joins us with the preview. >> my name is laura high mendez and my husband was killed in afghanistan july 10, 2011.

♪ >> ed: in washington, the trump administration is pushing for an independent international investigation into how the chinese government handled the coronavirus outbreak. gillian turner's live outside of the chinese embassy in washington with more details. good morning jillian. >> good morning to you, eddie. as of now the investigation into the origin of the virus is ongoing. as of just a couple of hours ago our intelligence sources tell us they don't have an estimate as to when they will wrap up and present their findings to the trump administration. they say it could be days, weeks

and months. they say the white house has also not imposed any kind of a deadline on this. as of now editorially speaking we have another source that tells us it's a good thing and it indicates the white house isn't pressuring this process unduly, they are allowing it to play out. the national security advisor joining fox news this morning has said the u.s. is still unable to get health officials inside this key areas in wuhan. take a listen. >> he's been clear from the outset. we need to get the cdc into china. there's a huge burden on china to tell us where this came from. did it come from a lab or a wet market? neither of those are good answers. these wet markets are a host of flags. >> this complaint that china is blocking all efforts by the u.s. to get eyes on the ground is one we are hearing echoed across the government from the national security council to the intelligence community. even president trump himself,

listen to what he said sunday. >> president trump: we want to get into this and see what's going on. we weren't exactly invited, i can tell you that. >> another key facet is for the first time the wuhan virology lab at the epicenter of the investigation is speaking out and they are denying any role in releasing this pandemic. take a listen. >> there is no way this virus came from us. we have a strict regulatory regimen and we have a code of conduct for research so we are confident of that. >> now this statement from the lab is very important because it now pits the lab and the chinese government directly against the trump administration editor, which as we reported over the last few days, as been confirming to us that as this investigation goes forward and they spend more time looking at this, the more certain they are becoming that the virus did not originate inside a food market in china and that it did get released accidentally from one

of these wuhan labs. >> ed: gillian turner, thank you for all the details. ♪ >> as a parent with three children in three different age groups, elementary, middle and high school, my question is about how effective the online teaching is, especially for the younger children who are learning things online versus amongst their peers and with a teacher in person. is it just as effective for those younger children learning those a very basic, but important life skills? >> sandra: that is just one of the many questions that will be answered today during the virtual education town hall called "america learns together. it will feature former secretary of education bill bennett and arnie duncan as well as panels of parents and teachers. with more on what we can expect, here's harris faulkner. it's so good to see you this morning.

i can't tell you how much i'm looking forward to this because you and i are both mobs of young school-aged children and parents have so many questions right now. while they love all the time with her kids, so many questions about what they are doing at home, how well they are doing it and what the future looks like. >> it's so true and i think parents also have a level of guilt because those whom i've talked to sandra or in the same boat with the rest of us, and that is, whatever our children's arc of learning now is more in our hands and never before because they are in our care and in our environment at home for hours longer than they normally would be while they are learning. so parents want to make sure that they get this right, almost like substitute teacher teachers/parents. so there's a learning curve for everybody. as we head into this town hall and we talked with parents and teachers and students themselv themselves, you know, one of the main concerns all across the

board was, how much planning actually went into this. for was, i guess, expected to go into this before we roll this out in certain communities across the country. we have tens of millions of kids. so that's an answer we want to get to because for two or three weeks some children didn't have the chrome tablets and couldn't do google classroom. there was a lot of disparity in much of it had to do with how much heads up people got, how much pressure was on the system because we are in the middle of a pandemic, and the basic questions of, what do we all need to know? >> sandra: and how do we send hundreds, or in some cases thousands of students back into a school once the situation is safe to do so. so many questions, we look forward to it, harris. we will see you at noon and 1:00 for that town hall. >> great to see you sandra, thank you. >> ed: big cities getting most of the attention perhaps in most of the relief money for battling

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it's a struggle. my father would expect us to carry on, so we carry on. >> sandra: i know, i did read that. he was fairly young, 67 i believe and he was fighting in westchester county at the hospital there where there has been a lot of covid-19 cases that have come through there. you are seeing an opportunity to say to local leaders, let's come together on this issue, this is a fight that we are all in together and it really hit home personally for you? >> it really did. he was under tremendous care, came on very quickly and took his life in just under two weeks. but he's not alone in my family is not alone. there are countless across america who were impacted. you know, and i hope people appreciate, the national association of counties and all of us are making this point. county governments are that lifeline. where the front line if you will of response from 911 dispatche dispatcher's a thousand hospitals across country run

by county governments. public health departments are the ones not only identifying the cases but working with the individual confirmed cases, tracking and tracing those cases to be sure that we are providing for public safety. when white house and the congress and governor, even city mayors need this action, they demand county governments to do it from sheriff's offices provide law enforcement to public employees providing assistance, connecting by the way small business owners and those unemployed with sba loans and paycheck protection, we are that lifeline and we need to help. >> sandra: and i know that such an important goal for you to see that those stimulus dollars and a checks go into those businesses that need them the most and those front-line workers, the hospitals. it's a huge coordinated effort with local leaders that you are working with. thank you for what you are doing and again, our condolences to you and your family. >> thank you, i appreciate that.

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♪ >> ed: a senate democratic leader chuck schumer singh lawmakers have reached a deal in major parts of a $500 billion coronavirus relief bill. republican leader kevin mccarthy told us to come up most of the money order replenish a small business program that has run out of money which is welcome news for some small business owners out there but there are others who are still waiting for money. michael o'brien is the owner of o'brien employment. if you contacted me and said you have a 30-year-old staffing agency and a payroll if i have it right of about 50 to $60,000

per week, lots of employees you are trying to help and he went to your community bank and what happened? >> we went to the community bank and they changed everything, where everything was kind of taken through their corporate offices up in washington. i waited and waited, it was kind of radio silence for a while. finally last friday after the money ran out i did get an invitation to do the application and i filled it out. at that point -- and i'm not blaming the bank because i think that things work chain sawing for them but they were late at night there on friday and saturday night to help me with the uploads and things that i need to. basically i'm waiting for it because we have people who need a paycheck. and we worry more about putting bread on the table then eating ice cream or something. >> ed: while this shouldn't be a partisan issue because there are democratic and republican leaders who keep saying they have helped a lot of people.

what's your message to the president, the democratic and republican leaders in congress about how maybe they can fix this so small businesses like you can get money you are not getting? >> well, first of all i'm not worried about what other people have received already. i'm just saying that we are in the staffing industry and we are actually going to be the front line for people, some of these businesses that do shut down. we had a bar and restaurant that i don't think will ever open up again with service. so we will be the ones to help them get jobs. and if they have to change career we will be the ones that do it for them. so i'm just asking, make sure it gets to the small mom and pop people like my selves. my wife started this 30 years ago. help us help our people and help us help our team. that's what i'm asking for. >> ed: michael bryan, we hope your message is heard loud and clear. lots of small businesses that

need help and we appreciate it. we will be back with more, after this.

>> ed: major league baseball, its teams and its official ticket resale partner, stubhub, are being sued by fans. they said they failed to get refunds that hav for games of bn clad, called off they are seeking. i want to see it come back, sandra. i'm most interested in the fact that a-rod and j.lo apparently aren't just going to get married, they want to buy the mets!

what do you think? >> sandra: [laughs] a source tells "the new york post" it's real! we'll see where that goes. all right, ed. a great three hours with you. great to be with all of you. thanks for joining us. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> melissa: fox news alert, the governors of georgia, south carolina, and tennessee announcing plans to begin reopening some businesses and wind down stay at orders amid signs the coronavirus outbreak may be slowing in certain areas. georgia allowing certain businesses like gyms and hair salons to begin reopening this friday, but governor brian kemp saying social distancing rules remain in place, and urging businesses to enhance sanitation and check workers' temperatures. >> i'm taking this measure to action. we will get georgians back to work safely without undermining the progress that we all have made in