>> thanks for watching everybody. amongst my guests on radio from nine until noon, david faulk, about that incredible documentary series. ♪ >> sandra: at the cdc director out with the start new warning that a second more powerful wave of the coronavirus could be heading to the united states later this year. good morning everyone, i'm sandra smith. >> ed: and a very pleasant good morning to you, i met hen henry. what he tells "washington post" that it could return at the beginning of flu season. dr. deborah birx says she's not sure that it's going to be worse if the coronavirus comes back in the nation will get early warning sites i signs of it stas flaring up. georgia taking some of the biggest ups yet. governor brian kemp defending his moods with martha last night. >> we are talking about a few

businesses that i closed down to help flatten the curve in the united states. but for us to continue to do that while they lose everything, quite honestly there are a lot of civil repercussions of that. mental health issues and we are seeing more patients in our trauma centers and our state because people are just, they are tired of it. it's a tough balance. >> sandra: john roberts live at the white house with the latest stimulus measure. but we begin with jonathan serrie. >> the governor's executive order which allows businesses such as tattoo parlors, hair salons and bowling alleys to reopen as early as friday. it supersedes any local action shutting down businesses.

and that's untold case numbers numbers go down further. they base their decisions on science. >> the data they utilize to base decisions and the date of the mirror should use in each of the community's. because it will have to be on the community by community opening. those communities are in different places, even in georgia. >> states prepare to reopen their economy, cdc director robert redfield once a second wave the coronavirus might coincide with flu season. dr. redfield tells "washington post," there's a possibility that the assault of the virus on our nation next winter will actually be even more difficult than the one we just went through.

redfield tells "washington pos "washington post," americans can minimize the impact on hospitals by getting seasonal flu shots in the fall, and although a vaccine against coronavirus won't be ready by then, federal health officials say better monitoring systems will be in place and ed and sandra, they are also optimistic that approved covid-19 treatments will also become available at that time. back to you. >> sandra: all right, jonathan serrie outside of the cdc in atlanta. >> ed: at the house could vote tomorrow on the so-called stimulus 3.5 package. it passed in the senate yesterday and comes as president trump defends protesters demanding states reopen their economies. our chief correspondent john roberts is live with more. >> good morning to you. increasing money out there to small businesses and other entities that are in desperate need of it, the house was expected to begin taking up the measure that passed the senate yesterday. as you mentioned though likely not a vote until tomorrow. the senate passed a $484 billion

major late yesterday afternoon and here's how it breaks down. $321 billion for the paycheck protection program under the small business administration. of that, some $60 billion will be reserved specifically for small lenders. in addition under the $60 billion for disaster assistant loans and grants, $75 billion for health care facilities and a $25 billion for national testing to try to scale things up even further than where they sit now. another half trillion dollar relief package increasing urgency to reopen the american economy. some states like georgia, south carolina and tennessee plan to begin the process as early as friday. the president voicing support for people who have come out to protest either what they call arbitrary restrictions or the very fact that there are restrictions at all. listen to what the president said. >> president trump: people want to get back to work and i watch some of the protests not in great detail but i see not.

they have to make a living, they have to take care of their family. they don't want to do this. >> also tied into the effort to get america back to work the president says he will sign an executive order today to help certain immigration to the united states, pulling back a little bit on his initial plan saying the 60 day suspension, the initial suspension will only apply to the green card program. listen again to the president. >> president trump: we want to protect our u.s. workers and i think as we move forward we will become more and more protective of them. it will also help to conserve vital medical resources for american citizens. a short break from new immigration, depending upon the time we are talking about, will protect the solvency of our health care system. >> again this only applies to green card applicants, not those who are coming into america

temporarily such as migrant workers. >> sandra: i appreciate it john. the latest stimulus package coming amid criticism that really funds are lacking oversight. shake shack announcing it will be returning millions that i got in small business data. meanwhile, harvard, america's richest private university is getting millions from not to trillion stimulus package passed earlier this month. the president addressing that last night at the briefing. >> president trump: harvard is going to pay back the money, they should be taking it. i'm not going to mention any other names but when i saw harvard, they have one of the largest endowments of anywhere in the country, it may be in the world i guess. they are going to pay back that money. >> harvard saying that harvard did not apply for nor did it receive any funds, they have been allocated funds as part of

the cares act which will be used to provide direct assistance to students facing urgent financial need to due to covid-19 pandemic. let's bring in the chairman of the senate republican conference, wyoming senator john russelsenator john barrasso. you heard the president's reaction at the briefing to harvard receiving that money, although they didn't say they applied for those funds under ppp, it fell under the cares act for academic purposes. so do you think harvard should give back that money and how do you assure the american people that despite congress securing all this money that it's going to get into the hands of those small businesses that need it most? >> while the president is absolutely right. harvard shouldn't be getting all of this money. the focus of the cares act is to rescue the american economy at a time when we are under attack from a disease. my focus has been hospitals as

well as small businesses. what we needed to do and did yesterday in the senate is basically put additional money into the paycheck protection plan. that's the program to allow small businesses to borrow money and to keep people the payroll. it has worked very successfully in wyoming and thousands of these awards, millions of dollars going out. people staying on the payroll. that's what this is all about to mean. we saw again the democrats playing politics and trying to get political leverage rather than focusing on the needs of american workers when we know 20 million americans are out of work right now. we needed to do better, quicker. i should have never run out of money. basically we saw it coming and it ran out a week ago and that has now been refilled. the president is ready to sign it and i talked to him about it recently. >> sandra: despite the securing of this round of relief, democrats chuck schumer pushing for even more relief money to go out. i would be curious to see if you

support it. here's chuck schumer. >> big, broad, bold, covid letter number four. if the election reform, money for housing, the postal service, money for a hero's fund and at that top of the list is a big robust local plan. >> sandra: so do you support a big bold covert it four? >> what i support is getting americans back to work. we need to do it safely, do it smartly and used science, do the things that dr. birx has talked about in wyoming. we have many communities that fit right now into phase one and i'm looking forward to opening those and people do want to get back to work. they are not looking for a from the government, that people want

to get back to work and back to their normal lives. as long as we can do it safely we need to move in that direction sooner rather than later. >> sandra: you obviously come from a unique background having the medical background that you do. i'd be curious, dr. birx was asked about the cdc's warning that covid-19 could come back with the wet vengeance come next winter when you combine it with flu season and here's how she responded to the question on that. >> we can monitor, i can monitor communities at that level. i don't know if it will be worse, i think this has been pretty bad. when you see what has happened in new york, that was very bad. i believe we will have early warning signals both from our surveillance that we've been talking about on the vulnerable population. >> sandra: you've put a lot of thought into this, senator. what do you think? what happens next winter when you have this combined with flu

season possibly? >> well everyone ought to get a flu shot going into next winter. number two in terms of mike in terms of therapeutics and treatments, i think we will know a lot more about coronavirus and we will have much more in terms of testing and be much better able to deal with that. i think people will be ready for it and i think what's important right now is safely opening up our community is using the science and all of the outlines that dr. birx has come up with. i think phase one, phase two and phase three is a way to go and when next flu season hits i want this economy really churning away successfully. that's what we need to do for america. >> sandra: senator, some will point out that you are saying this from the state of wyoming where your case numbers are only 404 cases and six deaths, your estate has been spared. i know you are aggressively talking about reopening the economy and getting things going

in wyoming. some fears about reopening the economy even if it's a slowly open, we could see a cases surge are you concerned about the speed at which we reopen and could change things in your state and the sanding it has? >> i think you are always worried about a surge and we are continuing to socially distance, people are continuing to protect the most vulnerable. our elderly, we continue to wash her hands thoroughly and do all the things that are outlined in phase one, and then moving to phase two and phase three in the reopening of america. every community needs to be concerned about that. i believe the best ways to do that are places where the numbers are low, where we've had the declining number of cases, where the 14 day metrics have been successfully put into place. where there is enough testing available and people continue to do the right thing. i trust the people of wyoming at the people of america to do the right thing at a time like this.

>> sandra: did you have any thoughts on the protest that we continue to see across the country in some areas where they say, enough is enough, let's reopen and get back to work? there's been criticism that they have not engaged in the social distancing measures endangering themselves in the communities around them. senator, final thoughts? >> well people have suffered significantly in terms of our finances and we are not wanting to give up our freedoms. the impact of this virus on the lives of every american, everyone has been hit either from a medical standpoint or economic standpoint. i certainly understand the constitution and our rights to assemble, i think we need to be wise and how we do it, protecting ourselves and our communities, our neighbors certainly, the most vulnerable. i understand why people are doing it and we need to do it wisely.

>> sandra: senator john brosseau, always good to talk to you. thanks for coming this morning. i'm >> ed: fox news alert, an american living in wuhan china now back home in this city where this pandemic began. what's it like they are now on the ground? he joins us just ahead. plus new york officials optimistic about getting the state's economy back on track after an oval office meeting between president trump and governor cuomo. but what is a realistic timeli timeline? >> the day is coming when we will overcome this disease. the day is coming when i will be able to tell you that we can gather again. the day is coming that i will be able to tell you that in fact we will be having the concerts and the street fairs and the parades again. ♪ limu emu & doug

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>> ed: parts of the northeast cleaning up this morning after

some rough spring storms. storms brought pounding hail and winds to ocean county, new jersey, toppling trees and causing power outages. and a giant waterspout caught on camera at the jersey shore. musical medical >> we had a meeting in the white house this afternoon and it was very productive. and it was positive, we got a lot done. we agreed that a state government, the state government should be responsible for managing the actual tests in their own laboratories. it's up to a state to determine how many tests and where those tests should be done. >> sandra: new york governor andrew cuomo reacting to his meeting with president trump yesterday afternoon before heading to washington. he said the situation is improving in his state. at the hardest hit by the pandemic. data showing the number of deaths is going down each day

and that new hospitalizations, that number has flattened. david lee miller is live in new york state with more on that. hate david lee. >> good morning, sandra. governor andrew cuomo's visit with president trump has paid off for new yorkers. the governor said it, mr. trump will help the state increase the both the number of diagnostic as well as antibody test for the virus. despite frequently being at odds, cuomo described the off-camera face-to-face meeting as open, honest and very productive. the state will be able to test twice as many people but adds it's not going to happen overnight. >> our goal is to double the 20,000 to get the 40,000 tests per day. we need several weeks to ramp up to that but it's a very aggressive goal. >> cuomo says the crisis caused at least a $10 billion budget shortfall. the president said help for the

state should arrive under the government's multitiered plan to help restart the economy. >> president trump: we mentioned briefly the state aid, we talked about that, governor cuomo and myself and i agreed with him on that and i think most republicans agreed it, too, and that democrats. that's part of phase four. >> during the meeting they decided to return the uss comfort back to its home location so it can be deployed to other locations. there was a fear that they would not have enough hospital beds but now the curve appears to be flattening. the comfort which has a 500 bed capacity to treat coronavirus cases only saw a maximum of 170 patients during its time in new york. a spokesman for new york mayor bill de blasio says the state is a great fall so the comfort lived up to its name.

>> sandra: david lee miller, thanks for your continued reporting. >> ed: joe biden announcing his biggest fund-raising hall yet, but that still falls far short of the 63 million raised by president trump and the rnc last month. guy benson is host of the guy benson show and a fox news contributor. good morning. money is not everything, and hillary clinton found that out clearly in 2016. she had a big financial advantage and in the end it didn't matter. but right now joe biden begins it seems to me the 2020 general election as it were with the big disadvantage because president trump has a lot more money in the bank right now. >> the trump campaign and of the rnc have been a fund-raising machine and a juggernaut. they've been building and oiling this machine for well over a year and it's been very successful. the biden number though in march i would say is pretty respectable. for as he started to turn things around in south carolina and beyond, had a really good super tuesday and the rest is history but i would point out,

bernie sanders was still in this race on the democratic side into april this month, he didn't drop out until the eighth. so i'm curious to see where joe biden's number lands for april, may pandemic but as the only horse left in the race on that side of the aisle. i think he will probably catch up although the dnc is such a mess right now, that is i think a disadvantage for him. >> ed: and may be more important as you suggest in matching either way. what they were doing on money is getting those supporters on board. interesting article in "the new york times" saying he's got work to do. "headline vote for biden, sandra says it's up in the air." there was a nearly universal lack of enthusiasm for mr. biden. some called him a less formidable candidate than hillary clinton was in 2016. what's going on there?

>> i was just talking to a bernie sanders supporter of the other day saying he was slightly more inclined to support president trump than joe biden in the general election. there's a subsection of brainy backers who feel that way but i think the large majority of them are going to of course a vote for their party's nominee and try to oust president trump from office. to me, ed, the bigger story than who are the bernie people who might vote for trump, because of the enthusiasm issue that you just cited it will just stay home, or he may vote for a third party? and if things are awfully close and really tight and some of those crucial states again, the stay-at-home factory, the lack of enthusiasm factor could end up being decisive and i think democrats are going to be working very, very hard over the course of the next few months to try to bring as many of those people back on site and fired them up if possible. we will see if maybe a vice presidential pick might be a play that gets a few people more excited.

>> ed: you've been in this business for a while because she was segued to the next thing which is the vp pick. here's joe biden last night on his preference as they are. >> the first and most important quality where someone if i walked away immediately from the office for whatever reason, that they could be president. they would have to be intellectually simpatico. you have to be on the same wavelength. someone you can completely trust. >> ed: he has already told us it's going to be a woman, what did you learn from that clip? >> not a whole lot, it already sounds like he's not picking bernie sanders because he's not a woman and they are not simpatico. i think he's saying qualifications matter that was boilerplate, in my mind. i would be surprised if it's not a woman from the upper midwest, that's why people keep talking about amy klobuchar being toward the top of that list, or the governor of michigan gretchen whitmer being thrown around a lot as a possible name.

kamala harris is still in there and people are talking about stacy abrams who is actively campaigning for this job. not sure if that helps her. but especially with the pandemic going on you have to pick your spots as the challenger to make news and that's going to be a very big moment in his campaign. >> ed: but really quick in terms of what mayor come up with the protests we've seen in michigan you have to wonder if that has backfired on her or whether her star will fade a lot. you said someone simpatico, what about a woman like elizabeth warren who is not exactly been simpatico? >> right. but could she fire up the left flank of the party, some of whom as we talked about are not exactly thrilled with joe biden as the nominee. that's possible although there is some bad blood between the warren and bernie people although the biden people might look at the landscape and say we are less concerned about the hard left flank of the party, we want to go after independence, that's how we win.

in which case the calculus is totally different. >> ed: last thought on michelle obama who even joe biden said the other day if i could pick her and she do it, she began. that may fire up some trump voters as well. >> it would do both things and i would be surprised if that was what she wanted to do. i think there was a more of o mosh biden to the obama's with whom he is very friends too. i think that was mostly just the tip of the cap but you never know. that would be a huge seismic decision. if she agreed and got the nod we might talk about something other than the coronavirus for 5 minutes. >> ed: yes dipping a toe in the water. guy benson, thanks for coming in. >> sandra: suing china over the global pandemic. one state's top prosecutor accusing beijing of hiding the extent of the outbreak and putting the blame of the country's leaders. plus congress moving ahead of

the next phase of economic relief, but is it enough to prevent what could be a lengthy and painful recession? neil cavuto will be joining us for the opening bell as stocks look to open higher. you will join us, the next. >> we have over a million companies that have received this with less than ten workers. so there is a very broad participation in really small business. economy

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>> sandra: a welcome sight for many on wall street this morning with the dow opening in the green come up 388 points out of the gate this morning after congress races to approve another massive relief bill pumping in another half trillion dollars into the economy for those small businesses, hospitals and testing. so the market is up and in the green. joining us now isn't neil cavuto. good morning to you. we've been watching these wild swings in the market, oil going into negative prices this week, who would have ever thought. it is staging a comeback this morning, oil right now is at 20%. what do you make of all of it and where the market goes next? >> you know, you and i have talked about this before, it really depends on when the picture is snapped. the thing that we are celebrating, the fact that oil is around 12 or 13 bucks per barrel and we are just grateful

that it's not negative anymore tells you all you need to know about how our mind-set has changed. but any uptick in oil changes the equation a little bit, that this uptick combined with maybe these guys raining and production, we will see, and the latest stimulus measure that will help small business. that and the fact that some states are looking at slowly opening up, and i stress slowly opening up. it's all combining for the moment at least to help stocks. >> sandra: while this additional funding was secured for small businesses, we just of the report with senator john barrasso about harvard getting some of that money and the president saying that university should give that money back. there are growing concerns that while congress continues to secure this funding that it's not exactly getting to those small businesses that need at the most to survive. >> you know i think harvard could learn something from

shake shack. remember i got $10 million in small business relief and they were ashamed and to giving it back. i'm sure that harvard has one of the greatest and richest endowments on this planet will be similarly forced to give it back. but you know, no one was technically breaking the rules or the law on this and it was kind of open-ended. you take advantage of whatever money you can get. the big concern is, and you are right to put it down mike pointed out, we had more than 80 companies that would not meet the small business competition. for a variety of reasons they were following the letter of this and wiggling in and out with the best of lawyers advising them. but i know mitch mcconnell has talked about the latest tranche of funding and will have been like assurances, but the small business guys don't have his battery of accountants and top-notch lawyers who can do their bidding. i fear it could happen again, i hope i'm wrong but i fear it

could happen again. >> sandra: and you have chuck schumer with around four. this headline on foxbusiness.com, global ceos should see you shape to recession. expect things to get worse before they get better, almost two-thirds of business leaders forecast a negative impact on earnings to continue for a year while a quarter expected the work force to be down more than 20% a year from now. in our minds we somehow see this v-shaped recovery. we flipped the switch back on and everyone goes back out to eat, they go back to work and we see the sharp recovery. most business leaders don't see it that way on this survey says it could be a long, drawn-out sort of recession here before we see that u-shaped recovery and say things start to improve. and what think? >> a v-shaped recovery are very hard to produce.

my original concerns were more psychological than anything else. when people do sort of crawl back to our care, there won't be as many crawling back and it's going to be staggered. you can't tell me psychologically a lot of people will be leery of crowded settings, theaters, restaurants, even their office place. even with the staggered distance in a fact. so that alone tells her he could take a while and then the people who have been burned and going without paychecks, going without business themselves, they are going to be very leery of piling on the spending here. so i have no doubt there will be a recovery. v-shaped, u-shaped, what have you, it's going to be slow. it will be study, i hope it's going to be studied but this idea that we could just spring forward here is probably wrong. very wrong. >> sandra: i had in my head last night this interview with chef david burke that we had yesterday, saying we will figure

this out. restaurants will have to change and adapt to the times. we will have to space people out and have more outdoor seating but we will figure this out. neil cavuto, thanks so much for joining us, we will see you later on. >> ed: missouri becoming the first state to sue china over the pandemic, accusing the company, country of being directly responsible for the devastation from the coronavirus pandemic. they are seeking damages from loss of life and economic turmoil. >> that's destroying information, silencing whistle-blowers and it has had untold damage at a human level and also broader economic implications. >> ed: mike tobin has more on the legal battle. >> the people's republic of china, the communist party of china and even the health department has filed in the eastern district of missouri and

it's essentially about the pain and damage is that the people of missouri are enduring right now because of the virus. now the suit alleges that the chinese government, when something could have been done about the spread of the virus, lied, suppressed information and even went so far as to arrest whistle-blowers. the suit claims that china knowing what the rest of the world was in for begin hoarding masks and other personal protective equipment. in fact, china went from a net exporter of ppe to a net importer. the attorney general talks about lives, paychecks and alive sleep, livelihoods lost and he's trying to get some punitive damages for the people of missouri. >> the truth of the matter is that the chinese government and chinese authority was responsible. now we are dealing with a worldwide pandemic. >> congressman jim banks is urging the state department to sue china. he claims that if china would have allowed the centers for disease control into that nation

back in january 95% of the cases could have been prevented. he says one mechanism to recover damages from china would be to erase debt and he is also urging the united states to disentangle its economy from china with a two-pronged effect. one would create an economic squeeze, to supply chain independence. and it with prevent some of the mess that we are in right now. >> ed: mike tobin, fascinating issue. missouri's attorney general eric schmidt joining us later on "america's newsroom" with his thoughts. >> sandra: i'm looking forward to that. meanwhile president trump is defending his record on china after criticism from joe biden. >> president trump: no one has ever been tougher on china than me. you go back 20 years and i got elected at least partially on the fact that i've been very tough. >> sandra: so will this become the biggest foreign policy

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>> ed: christopher suzanne is one of the many millions who escaped from wuhan, china, as a virus spread like wildfire about his journey would eventually lead him back home to where this virus started. how is your family? i understand you were just reunited? >> good morning. my family is doing great. we were finally able to get my wife back to her family on monday morning. it was a great sight to see my father-in-law hold my son for the first time in a long time and make him laugh. it was a good feeling. >> ed: we are showing a picture now of your beautiful son.

tell us about the journey from schenectady, new york, to shanghai on to beijing, as i understand it, and then we'll move on. >> we started out just before the lock down, we came to have my son baptized, thank you to father bob. we spent two weeks in the u.s. and then the flights just kept canceling and canceling again and then finally we contacted the chinese embassy and they were able to help us figure out a flight to get back. once we arrived from the u.s. into shanghai, we had arrived at about 13 hours, 40 minutes. so they kept us waiting in the customs hall -- or excuse me, 14 days. at the exact time, they kept us waiting. in hindsight, we could see,

because we were the first case to arrive back into china wing away from the province for that 14 day initial. period >> ed: and tell me that, now that you are there what's it like on the ground? what's happening on the ground in wuhan? >> i slowly opening up. someone mentioned -- i read a message earlier from some other folks and they said to come from what i see it's about 70% open and i had to kind of correct that person and say, from what i notice in my experience, i've been here about ten years, wuhan is only about 20 or 30% open. you have your family, local people are still riding your bicycle outside, everyone is wearing a mask, much more than usual, but there's not too many open businesses. any kind of coffee shops or restaurants, it's all take away

or delivery. >> ed: in the last 30 seconds we have, a lot of people here in america are wondering about that wuhan lab. you are obviously in a communist country, maybe there is not a lot of people talking about it or maybe they are. what is happening in terms of that wuhan lab and the intrigue about how all this started? >> you know, unfortunately there's not too much news about that here. i live just on the street from the lab, i have students some of my students work at the lab. for us as ex-pats here, it's not something we converse about, we are not too worried about it. not because we can't but it's not something we've actually thought about. so you know, i don't know too much about that to be honest with you. >> ed: lots of people here are trying to figure out how it all started. we are glad your family has been reunited and you are healthy and everyone is back together. we appreciate your thoughts this

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vehicles to frontline medical workers who are worried about exposing their family to the coronavirus. laura ingle is alive in nassau county new york with more on that. good morning. >> good morning. this is a movement that has really been picking up steam and its strangers helping strangers. even with all the success rvs for mds has had it, they still need a more rv owners to come forward to help people out. it really is an incredible story. it all started with emily phillips, the wife of an emergency room physician in texas who received an rv for her husband after reaching out on facebook after she became more concerned about the increasing risk for her family, her husband coming back to the house. the two women knew immediately this was an idea that would catch on with people. >> they are not hesitating, they are just doing it because it's the right thing to do and they

want to do something for someone else. >> i've never seen anything like it in my entire life. i think this will go down in my opinion as one of the biggest most positive things that came out the tragedy in our country. >> they created a facebook page called up rvs for mds which now has over 30,000 members. they've made over 1100 matches of medical workers with rv and camper owners in the u.s. to date, including candace farrell on new york's long island who donated her rv to a woman whose daughter works nights at a local hospital and whose husband has respiratory issues from 9/11. >> during this time i have been feeling kind of helpless and i thought that, you know, if i could just go on and donate my rv, it was sitting in my driveway at doing nothing so i might as well donate it to someone who needs it. >> it's overwhelming to know

that someone will just selflessly give this trailer to us and let my daughter stay in it. no questions asked, she just dropped it off. it was a very selfless and beautiful thing for her to do. >> an amazing movement. sandra, back to you. >> sandra: laura ingle reporting from nassau county. >> ed: fox news alert, the senate are proving nearly half a trillion dollars and more coronavirus aid but some democrats say it's still not nearly enough. the latest from washington, ne next. when you take align, you have the support of a probiotic and the gastroenterologists who developed it. align naturally helps to soothe your occasional digestive upsets 24/7. so where you go the pro goes.

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>> ed: fox news alert, more protests expected all across america today as americans rallied against stay-at-home orders they believe have gone too far, for too long. welcome to a brand-new hour of the "america's newsroom." i'm ed henry. >> sandra: good morning everyone, and sandra smith. some governors are taking steps to reopen their states by the end of the week but others are warning it will take some time before businesses can open backup. >> if you compare what's going on on the ground here in michigan, i know that we are going to have to be really methodical and data driven about what sectors in the economy we engage and win. it will be a slow reentry. >> sandra: meanwhile the

senate passing coronavirus aid package, much of which will go toward small business and health care facilities hit by the pandemic. we have live fox team coverage for you this morning. mike emanuel standing by with more on that relief bill but we begin with matt finn in chicago with more on the nationwide protests that are happening. >> a growing number of outraged americans and more than 25 states have protest of their stay their stay at home order, some of which have extended into may or even june. to date there are more rally scheduled in states like michigan and new york. [honking] >> if this was the scene outside of missouri's capitol yesterday protesters in many states were apparently not social distancing or wearing masks and others were driving by on honking horns in their cars. many protesters we are hearing from our demanding state governments open rural counties that have not been hit as hard

as coronavirus hot spots. if the stay-at-home orders persist they won't have jobs to return to. >> there is no reason that healthy people should be forced to stay home. there is no reason for it right now. >> we need to reopen the country and we want our lives back, now. >> the president and his task force continue to encourage people to stay a stay at home ah as possible and practice social distancing. however the president has said that some governors have gone too far with their orders and people have the right to protest. illinois governor continues to spar with the president and blames the president for people to choosing to protest in big groups. >> large crowds were frankly they are going to give each other coronavirus and people will unfortunately get sick and some people may die as a result of the president's rhetoric that has brought them out to protest. >> the governor of the state of

georgia is allowing some businesses like gyms and beauty salons to reopen this friday with mandates on social distancing and cleanliness. ed and sandra? >> sandra: matt finn, thank you. >> ed: meanwhile, brand-new legal action involving the coronavirus targeting china. missouri now becoming the first state to file a lawsuit against china for its handling of this outbreak. it accuses beijing and the chinese communist party and other officials of concealing this pandemic and allowing it to spread. joining me now live is missouri's attorney general eric schmidt. china has now issued an official response. they don't just call this absurd, they call it very absurd. make your case, counselor. >> i guess to them, we will see in court. what we have come to know here is the chinese government engaged in a campaign of deception and deceit, misrepresentation and

malfeasance really about the origins of this deadly virus and unleashed a worldwide pandemic which is very serious. no part of the globe has been spared, certainly not here in the united states. in missouri we have nearly 6,000 cases, 200 deaths. people being separated from their loved ones and nursing homes and not being able to attend funerals. the economic toll is significant with the number of jobless claims and our state legislature goes back in next week to craft a budget under these unprecedented economic conditions. it was of moral imperative to me of the a state's chief legal officer to hold them accountable for their actions. >> ed: as you know full well, it's a high bar to be able to sue another nation. i listen closely to gordon chang has a sharp analyst of china and the entire continent but he basically was saying this morning on fox & friends first of that he was very skeptical of what you are doing at first but has listened closely and now

thinks there may be some likes to. listen. >> missouri sued the communist party which technically does not have sovereign immunity but does have a lot of assets around the world. indeed, we are seeing in europe the same sort of "make china pay" movement so i think something will happen. there's a lot of ways that china's assets can be seized. one important thing, we need to make sure that the suits proceed because we have to deter china from doing this again. >> ed: lawsuits though against other nations are typically prohibited against u.s. law. there are some federal lawmakers and members of congress who say they might try to amend it so you can move forward but, it reacts to what gordon chang is saying, that maybe you will be able to latch onto some assets? >> it's a fair question to bring up. as a first state to move forward we wanted to make sure we were very buttoned up on this

lawsuit. however there are exceptions to that and the principal exception that we cite in our lawsuit is the commercial activities exception. so when you are operating, when the chinese government is operating a virology lab in the chinese government is operating a hospital system, when the chinese government is hoarding ppe, they went from a net exporter to net importer, all the while lying to the world about the dangers of these pandemics. as mentioned in the previous clip we've also sued the chinese communist party and others, nonstate actors. we think we fit squarely in those exceptions. >> ed: quick answer on this because i want to talk big picture about your state as well. "new york times," interesting story. those alarming messages we all started getting a few weeks ago on cell phones and social media, about that there would be a federal lockdown and that president trump was going to

shut everything down all across america and they kept saying it's false, that china was pushing this propaganda. doesn't that just add more steam to the anger around the world about all this? >> yes, and this lawsuit, the reason we think it's so important is really about getting to the truth. the more we learn, the more disturbing it is and it's about holding the chinese government accountable which is why we felt so strongly about that case in federal court. >> ed: last question, it was also protest popping up in your state of missouri as well. what's happening on the ground in terms of the push and pull about liberty while also being safe and making sure that people are healthy and how quickly his receipt going to reopen? >> missouri fortunately is doing better than a lot of other states as far as numbers. there is still untold human suffering and death, and our economy has been damaged severely which is again why we brought the lawsuit, to place

the blame exactly where it should be. but missourians are getting ready to get back to work and i think are excited about doing that, but we want people to be safe. we've done psa is about social distancing of that balance but we are kind of on the other side of that curve and we want to continue that trajectory and want people to be safe. i think people are anxious to get back to normal. >> ed: the attorney general of the great state of missouri, eric schmidt. we appreciate you coming in. >> 3 million americans are out of work right now. we need to do better, quicker. this should have never run out of money. basically we saw it coming and it ran out a week ago and that has now been refilled and the president is ready to sign it. >> sandra: senator john brosseau there of wyoming joined us last hour on "america's newsroom," reacting to that deal to provide another round of funding to our small businesses and help them stay afloat during the coronavirus pandemic. it's being called phase 3.5 and

provides nearly $500 billion in overall relief. it includes $321 billion for the paycheck protection program. 60 billion for disaster assistant loans and grants, 75 billion for health care facilities and a 25 billion for national testing. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is on capitol hill this morning with more. hey, mike. >> the next stop is a house of representatives and many house members are heading back to the capital expecting the vote as soon as tomorrow. one point bigger nancy pelosi is emphasizing is the need for testing. >> it recognizes the need for testing and also how to document this terrible pandemic is affecting different communities. if you do not test, you cannot possibly know the size of the challenge. >> one things democrats did not get in this bill is rescue money

for state and local governments. chuck schumer is already talking about the next funding package. >> it will be a big, broad, bold covid four. for anyone who thinks this is the last train out of the station, that's not even close to the case. the speaker and i will begin rolling up our sleeves and working on that big brought it covid four very soon and very quickly. >> but after approving trillions of dollars in new spending, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell says, not so fast. my bailing out governors and mayors. >> we know that they are also from suffering and they got revenue problems, but my view is, we've gone so far on the national debt here at the next time we address this issue the senate should be back in session. >> mcconnell reiterated this morning that his view is the package that they approved last

night as another $500 billion to the national debt. he wants to take some time to see how things are working. >> sandra: mike emanuel on the hill for us this morning. >> ed: tysons foods suspending operations at its largest pork processing plant in an effort to control the spread of covid-19. the company added the 2800 workers at the plant in waterloo, iowa, will be compensated for the closure. for employees at two other tyson plants have died of the coronavirus. we will have more on the impact with charles payne coming up later this hour. >> sandra: we look forward to having him back. another apparent provocation from ironic, iran, tehran claiming they launched a military satellite into orbit today. how the united states is responding. plus president trump and former vice president joe biden in the heated back and forth over

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>> ed: a fox news alert, iran saying it launched its first military satellite today. it's a sneak attack on american assets in neighboring iraq. talk about the significance of this launch. >> a missile that would put a satellite open space and also carry a nuclear warhead. so for critics of the president about drawing from the iran deal, it's not just about making the bomb, it's also the missiles, those components and the ability to put into a warhead. >> ed: this comes after one week after a group of armed speed speedboats harassed a convoy of navy warships in the persian gulf. the president tweeting, i have instructed the united states navy to shoot down and destroy any and all iranian gunboats if

they harass our ships at sea. musical physical >> president trump: look, there's nobody ever been tougher on china than me and that means 20 years, if you go back 20 years, i probably got elected on at least partially the fact that i've been very tough. i >> sandra: that was the president pushing back on his criticism of president trump's early handling of the coronavirus. and, joe biden has been saying trump was too easy on china. they didn't respond soon enough to the coronavirus threat. so could china's policy be the issue that defines the 2020 election? let's bring in karl rove, former white house deputy chief of staff. so is the shaping up to be the big debate, trading barbs over china for 2020? >> well if joe biden wants to

win i don't think he ought to keep going down this angle. to take the china band, the president slapped a ban on travel from china and joe biden responded by saying it was xenophobic and racist. the democratic debates, not a word while the coronavirus was coming on, not a word in the debates about this. national strategic stockpile under president obama, they ran down the number of n95 masks and protective gear for first responders and didn't replenish it. and it china trade where trump has been has been inarguably tougher on china than any of the guest presidents. so you take all of that and then you add inside arguments. nancy pelosi going in february to chinatown saying, everybody come to chinatown, there won't be a problem with coronavirus. hunter biden gets a huge stake in a chinese private equity firm, all of these things will

mean that if biden wants to prosecute the election on china it won't be a pretty picture for them. >> sandra: the debate continues on all of that. you heard the president there at the briefing pushing back on criticism from joe biden but still joe biden going on the late show and here is his criticism of the president. >> it was clear to me from one trump administration transition from us to them that they had no interest in talking about pandemics. we warned about them and we were concerned there would be future pandemics in the president had no sense of science, no sense of responsibility. it really worried me that he was both unqualified and competent to deal with something like th this. >> sandra: so could those continued attacks from the biden campaign work for them? >> it's different from the issue

of china. the president's performance and handling the coronavirus and economic recovery, those will be big issues for voters. but being a nattering napalm of negativism doesn't cut it because again, there was a pandemic report done by some people inside the obama administration. but if the obama administration cared about that, why didn't they replenish the national strategic stockpile of equipment that are first responders would need to? why didn't they keep the ventilators that are in the national strategic stockpile in a position of readiness? if this was also important to the obama biden administration, why didn't they do things that were necessary and under their control? what we now know as they ran down the stockpile of protective gear for our first responders and ran down the letter and 95 masks stockpile and didn't bother to replenish it.

joe biden was sitting there wringing his hands day and night about the possibility of a pandemic, why wasn't he stepping forward and saying, we ought to go to congress and replenish the stockpile? >> sandra: with the time we have left i want to talk about joe biden's potential pick as a running mate. usually sort of private behind the scenes and we eventually find out, but it's become very public. here he is on his desired vice presidential qualities. >> the first and most important quality where someone, who if i walked away from the office, it would be president. in the president would look at that person and say, she is worthy of being president tomorrow. you should always be simpatico, always on the same wavelength, it has to be someone you have confidences and you know has strengths that you don't have and that you should never be afraid. >> sandra: the idea of

michelle obama possibly being that running mate was floated out there and valerie jarrett said there's no way, know-how, that that's happening. but what do we know about where he might be going with this decision? >> we don't know. he misled us a little bit, that was a good set of answers but these have the first thing with someone who was able to step in and replace him. well, no. the first thing is i want a woman. number two is he wants a woman who could step in if something happened to him. i thought it was a good set of answers but look. he's desperate to find a way to get onto the stage. it's not his fault that he's not on the stage. we have a coronavirus, the president is there and leading, is in front of the cameras and interested in what he's saying and doing but he's desperately trying to find a way to be part of the dialogue in the midst of that. he's making this more public than it might otherwise be. but at the end of the day this is going to be a decision -- it's the first presidential decision that he will make.

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>> it's much better to talk with us than steamroll us and because we had input into the bill, it's a much better bill. leader mcconnell's bill was simply a bill for ppp. we weren't against increasing it but there was so much more to

do. >> i will predict that we will not try to pass another rescue package. >> ed: it provides $484 billion overall, 60 million for disaster assistance loans and grants, 75 billion for health care facilities and 25 billion for health care comic national testing. now the house will take up the bill with the boat slated for tomorrow and joining us is a ranking member of the ways and means committee. he's very important, congressman, thanks. let's start with a debt. i don't want to forget about that, because they've got at least 22 million people in this country who have filed unemployment claims. we have to spend some money, but

as i understand it the tag right now is at least $2.2 trillion that we have spent just the last few weeks. how do you get a handle on that at some point? >> we feel we had to inject this cash back into the economy and keep these workers at their job and we needed these dollars to apply the pressure, maximum pressure. but leader mcconnell is right, we need to not turn to how many more trillion dollars can we spend but can we, while applying pressure, how can we help these businesses and estates begin to reopen? i think that is key to getting people back to work. we are creating an awful lot of pain for a long time for a lot of workers and families that doesn't need to happen. congress really needs to turn to how can we help? how can we make these workplaces

say for workers and customers? maybe we can figure their stores and their plans long-term so we can reopen safely. >> ed: and in terms of helping those businesses, the last couple days we've been highlighting small businesses who have been telling us, they can't even get through to the sba. if they get through to the small business association and get to their banker, the bank is like, we might have done it but now we are out of money. i also want to be fair and point out that a woman who's watching the show yesterday contacted me and said i got response from the sba into our three days. small business, eight employees or so. so there are success stories. but how do you fix this moving forward to make sure this a new big money actually gets to people who need it? >> you know, there is a huge demand here in our communities and they are small businesses. i think as at the end of last week at the average loan was 200,000 of that was main street

business. it was coming to a local community bank, that's main street businesses. most of these early users, construction, local retailers, manufacturing, just the types of businesses that you want to have, keep those workers at their jobs. i'm confident this will get to small businesses. i still think though the best thing we can do with the congress is focused on helping these businesses reopen and to get this economy back on its feet. just like in tax reform, incentivize new business investment and we need to tweak the unemployment benefits to make sure that we are actually encouraging people to go back and will take those job offers when they are offered. >> ed: if this is described as phase 3.5 or three and a half, there's talk about face for which could include the president wants infrastructure and maybe at payroll tax cut which may be you can comment on. but i don't want to forget

something else important, your estate hard-hit on energy. is there something you could do in phase four with the price of oil crushing, it seems to have stabilized a little bit today. it is there something you could do in the energy sector? >> you know, i'm not sure we can't do something in between that. i think we ought to continue to stay focused on the virus and reopening the economy but for energy, the collapse in oil prices isn't just a texas problem, it's a national problem. this is our energy independence and these are tens of thousands of blue-collar workers and white-collar researchers that have a big impact on our economy. we've never seen this, and i don't have a crystal ball but it seems to me that the two biggest things we can do is help get them the capital they need to keep these workers and ride this out. secondly we need more demand, we need the economy to reopen again safely and responsibly. we can keep focus on that as congress.

and i still believe that there is even more incentives that we can do to make sure that the testing and the treatments, the medical supplies and ultimately the vaccines are produced here in america. i think there is some smart, pretty targeted tax incentives that don't cost tons of money to help ensure that that's part of our economic rebound as well. >> ed: h, congressman kevin brady. you look very official, almost like brady in the boardroom. we had dan kildee, he was in his kitchen yesterday. so we had killed in the kitchen and brady in the boardroom. we appreciate you coming on. [laughs] >> sandra: all right, thank you. fox news alert from israel, hospitals there working to keep up with the overwhelming caseload of covid-19 patients with more than 14,000 people testing positive for the virus there. trey yingst will take us inside one of the largest hospitals in

tel aviv for a closer look at those on the front line of the battle there. >> the coronavirus has taken the lives of more than 170,000 people around the world. the israeli doctors and nurses that we met today so they don't have time to be afraid of, they are too busy saving lives. it is a look inside a coronavirus intensive care unit. >> all of the patients in this intensive care unit are infected with coronavirus. each time a doctor walks into one of these rooms they have to assess the situation different differently. the common denominator for all of the nurses and doctors here and around the world's exposure to this deadly disease. despite the fact that these patients have tubes, wires and monitors hooked up to them come doctors treat each individual like a human, introducing themselves when they walk into the room and trying to reassure

these patients that they are going to be okay. amid the sickness there are small moments of health and happiness. one of the medical workers holding the phone up to a patient so he can hear his family members. >> to hear the family speak to them and encourage them, it's very emotional. >> at the few patients that we did encounter today who were alert, you could see the fear in their eyes. of the youngest person in critical condition is just 22 years old and doctors aren't sure he's going to make it. the head nurse told the story of how his mother came by with cookies for the staff because she was desperate to do anything to save her son. >> sandra: very powerful. >> ed: home sales plunging last month as a coronavirus pandemic continues to take a big

toll on the economy. how can the housing market recover from all this? we will talk about it. plus rob gronkowski ending his retirement in a shocking way. but his return means for the league and what it means for tom brady.

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>> ed: well, the sports industry may be largely shut down right now but there's no shortage of news out of the nfl this week. after just one year of retirement rob gronkowski is officially playing for the field but instead of playing for the patriots in new england he's headed to tampa bay, a trade that happened not long after tom brady assigned a massive deal with the buccaneers. they played nine seasons together for the patriots during which they won three super bow super bowls. >> sandra: all right. and now, fox news alert from wall street this morning. here you go, stocks are up, or hundred 24-point gain on the dow

after oil prices saw that historic plunger yesterday. the markets rallying as the senate passes a nearly 500 billion package for coronavirus relief. so there you have it, 432 points. let's bring in charles payne composed of "making money" from fox business. charles, we've missed you. you got oil turning negative and coming back, you've got the relief package for small businesses and a 400 plus point gain on the dow. >> i got to tell you, sandra. the two weeks prior to this week with the stock market were absolutely remarkable. if you would have gone back on on march 23rd when the dow was at 18,000 had said to everyone, because i talked to a lot of people and do my own work. the idea was going even lower than that. we were in the ultimate free fall, -- just trying to

find a place, a sort of trying to find some equilibrium. wall street looking they'll be on these relief measures toward reopening the economy, toward better testing. though sort of things that will give us the sense that we can get back to normalcy sooner rather than later. so i'm impressed with the way the market has come back. we are in the middle of earnings season and a lot of major companies have posted numbers already that have been really remarkable. of course they don't have a lot of visibility over the next quarter or so but we are reminded of the kind of momentum we had, of just how much of an economy this was a juggernaut, and the sooner we can get back to that the sooner obviously it will be for everybody. >> sandra: really interesting. we got some brand-new numbers out on the economy, march home sales did take a hit, 5. 5.27 million. versus february. there are a lot of questions

over what happens next with a lot of these economic indicators, charles. as we know, people are hunkered down in millions of lost their jobs and the future is so uncertain. what do you think? >> i think the near term future is uncertain and it goes back again, what was driving the housing market where we saw under 35-year-old housing growth ownership spiking, we saw home building starts and permits, more than a decade high level. i think one of the things that will still be there and maybe even get enhanced, millennials. the older end of that range starting to form households and looking for homes. i think it might change and may be focused on single-family homes rather than apartments in places with great density and high pollution, or you have to worry about pushing elevator buttons. i still think if the economy can come back online over the next six months we can pick up on those amazing trends including

housing. if you turn off the off switch, you turn off the off switch and it impacts everything from oil to housing. >> sandra: it will be a delicate balance to see they economy reopen again. meanwhile part of that effort to keep the economy going or keep those employed or keep those paychecks and hand where we can. we got congress agreeing to another round of relief for small businesses and democrats pitching another round after that. meanwhile there is concerns about the money getting into the right hand. i want to get your thoughts on harvard. the president really took on harvard over accepting some of those funds by the new relief areas briefing last night. >> president trump: harvard is going to pay back the money, they should be taking it. harvard is going to, and you have a number of them, i'm not going to mention names but harvard has one of the largest endowments in the country and maybe the world, they will pay back that money.

>> sandra: so harvard has already responded already responded essentially and said we did not apply for small business funds under the ppp government we were simply allocated funds under the care of fact. but still, the president said they should give that money back. charles? >> i agree a thousand%. they are playing word games here. when the pandemic initially broke out, the first thing harvard did was fire their cafeteria staff that were subcontractors, almost 300 workers. if they would have paid them a normal salary it would've cost them $700,000 which is less than 1% of that 1% of the $40 billion they are sitting on and now the taxpayers should fork over cash? absolutely not. they are out of touch and they don't need to tell us that they are not taking ppp money, it's cares act money. no, it's taxpayer funds that you do not need. in the meantime we have millions of small businesses still waiting at paying for relief

after the other program ran dry too fast. >> sandra: they say they are going to use those for the emergency higher education funds and it will provide direct assistance to students facing urgent financial needs due to the pandemic. >> they've got 40 billion! break off a billion of what they've got, if they really want to help come if they really cared, 10 million is nothing come at 9 million is nothing. they have 40 billion. they want to help poor people or poor students, break off a billion. they will not listen. help if you want to help but don't take money from taxpayers. >> sandra: may sound like you are in agreement with the president then that they should give those funds back. charles, i miss your enthusiasm. it's great to have you back and we will see you again soon. >> youtube, i miss you guys. >> ed: and tell us what you think next time. the food bank line stretching miles and miles amid fallout

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>> sandra: data breach may have exposed the private information of nearly a thousand small businesses that applied for those emergency loans.

the small business that ministrations of the breach was on the agency's website but adds that so far there is no evidence that the information has been misused. >> it has become meanwhile a very sobering site from coast-to-coast, long lines forming at food banks as millions of americans struggle from the fallout of the pandemic. you have cities and communities trying to find ways to be the hungry. claudia cowan's in oakland with more this morning. good morning claudia. >> they are getting ready for another busy day here at the alameda county community food bank in oakland which like many food banks across the country has seen unprecedented numbers of people who are needing food assistance for the very first time. and in keeping with social distancing, many of these food banks have set up the drive through centers where people can pick up shelf-stable's like rice and beans, plus fresh produce and frozen meat without having to leave their cars. >> we are able to give them a box of food that's going to last

a family for a week or two weeks, that's one less worry that they have. they can focus on getting to that next step in whatever they have to get through. >> was 22 million americans out of work, 95% of food banks across the u.s. are seeing higher demands with about one in three people seeking help for the first time. many cities are using the existing infrastructure from school lunch programs to try to help everyone in need to. long lines of cars are not typical in los angeles county where mobile sites are feeding up to 7500 people in a single day, a 70% increase since this crisis began. >> a month and a half ago they were doing fine. they were meeting their needs but they have now lost her job and furloughed, laid off or had hours cut back so significantly that they don't have enough resources to feed themselves and their family. >> have every single family in

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>> ed: at fox news alert. a brand-new coronavirus fallout as we learn more about the president's presidents immigration executive order as he pushes for more states to reopen for business. welcome back to "america's newsroom," i met henry. sandra, always great to be with you. >> sandra: good morning everyone. covid-19 cases topping numbers in the u.s. one that would halt green cards but not temporary visas. congress meantime set to pass another stimulus package while the president supports restarting the economy. tweeting that states are safely coming back in our country is

starting to open for business again. special care is and always will be given to our beloved seniors, except me. their lives will be better than ever. we have it live fox team coverage for you and bret baier will be joining us with his analysis. john, good morning. >> of the president could be signing an executive order as soon as sometime this afternoon, maybe tomorrow, putting a 60 day temporary halt on immigration into the united states. those restrictions though will only apply to people who are seeking green cards. the president saying yesterday, the reasons for it are twofold. and this is what the president said. >> we want to protect our citizens, and a short break from

new immigration depending on the time we are talking about. we protect the solvency of our health care system. >> the defiant plan surprising t surprisingly drawing fire and they set rather than execute a swift and aggressive effort to ramp up testing, donald trump is tweeting incendiary rhetoric about immigrants in the hopes he can distract everyone from the core truth, he's moved too slowly to contain the virus and we are all paying the price for it. aided to small business will be on the table in congress again today, the house taking up the measure that was passed by the senate. here's how that breaks down, $484 billion in 321 billion for paycheck protection. of that, $60 billion were reserved for small lenders and an additional $60 billion in disaster assistance loans and grants from the small business administration. in $25 billion for national testing. several states are expected to

begin the process of reopening later this week. georgia governor brian kemp saying he will allow some businesses to reopen including gyms, hair salons and bowling allealleys. the president offering his support to people who have protested either arbitrary restrictions or of continued closings saying the nation's workforce is getting very anxious. listen again. >> president trump: people want to get back to work. i've watched some of the protests, not in great detail but i've seen that and they are separated. they have to make a living and they have to take care of their family and they don't want to do this. >> ed: an hour, he on the first lady have a treeplanting ceremony in honor of earth day and then of course we have the coronavirus briefing somewhere between five and 6:00 this afternoon. sandra? >> sandra: we look forward to all of this. >> ed: for more on this,

bret baier. obviously you are so has to go back and forth, maybe you had to take the show directly to the president, how did that all go? >> while it was one way to get on during that hour, and obviously it was good, even in that briefing room many times for many years. it was good to be back in there, jon graciously let me sit in to ask some questions. i think it's a fascinating time because the president uses this for information but there's all kinds of different questions including the immigration order which he will sign today. i think we have yet to really dig into what the exemptions are going to look like. and the real purpose behind it, i asked him about it yesterday in the briefing and he said it was to put america first.

obviously joe biden and others are criticizing that. >> ed: we have that exchange, you teed it up perfectly. >> president trump: by pausing immigration we will put americans first in line for jo jobs. and we must first take care of the american worker. >> ed: i think that was when he teed it up. they are adding exceptions because the business community was not happy with what the president lai started at first. >> you have a lot of people and high-tech jobs that had a pipeline of people coming in. before all of this, a big concern from businesses around the country was not getting workers to fill all the jobs

they had to. now the president is turning the tables on that, and as he mentioned the farmers and the guest workers already. >> i asked about you in the briefing room, you got to talk to the secretary of treasury steven mnuchin as well, and the treasury secretary was on with stuart varney a little while ago. talking about kind of a new timetable for the summer. >> we are going to get back to work fairly quickly and we are kind of operating under the environment that we are going to open up parts of the economy and we are looking for by the time we get later in the summer having most of the economy if not all of the economy open. >> ed: it most if not all of the economy, what do you think?

>> i think that's ambitious. we have a health crisis and an economic crisis. i think it's fair to say that no one wants to see people die and no one wants to see the u.s. economy killed. and i think that's what dr. birx and dr. fauci with the president, they are trying to provide states. there is a lot of criticism on whether it's too soon or not but i think it's going to be up to each place, if you look at those charts and you take new york and new jersey out of the equation for the nation the numbers look a lot different across the nation. i think ed, the newest thing today is this autopsy out of santa clara county out of california which suggests that the first death happens februarh in the u.s. as we once thought.

which means the estimate is that person likely contracted the virus in early january and that also means it could have been around a lot longer in the bay area in particular. and perhaps that's why the numbers in california are a little bit lower than what they were saying in new york and metropolitan areas. >> ed: another important question, we brought to the table last week, and whether it started in the wuhan lab, and he lashed out at china about the south china sea and also said they've been shirking their obligations after the world health organization as well. people wondering about accountability, they can go after them and have a lot of rhetoric. but will anything be done about it?

>> this dies down at least in numbers. you see some action, first taking manufacturing over especially in pharmaceuticals and supply lines from china back to the u.s. as we've said, 100% clear across the board and agencies that there was a major cover-up. they are trying to get to the bottom of the origin and whether it came from that lab or not. when you look at the other data points and what china did right after the outbreak, and that's where people's focus has been. even this news story about china agents in the u.s. spreading the early disinformation, that there was going to be a total lockdown with the military involved at the beginning. >> ed: absolutely. we started out in the briefing room, and here we are 14 years later. and we are older.

space >> yes we are. although they take her temperature now. >> ed: a whole new normal. but what's constant is we will see you at 6:00 tonight, thanks for coming in. >> sandra: we will be watching for that. meanwhile the director of the cdc robert redfield out with a stark new warning about the coronavirus. but dr. deborah birx saying something a little bit different. we will explain what we are hearing. some businesses will reopen this week while some local leaders are pushing back. the mayor of savannah is one of them and we will hear from him, next. >> as your mayor, i'm telling you that you are the mayors and governors of your own governors.

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>> the cdc director's concern is that if there is a resurgence of coronavirus in the winter that it may coincide with flu season which likely would be ramping up at the same time. and then american hospitals would be dealing with two outbreaks of major respiratory illnesses at the very same time. dr. redfield tells "the washington post" "there's a possibility that the assault of our nation next winter by the virus may actually be even more difficult than the one we just went through. the cdc director tells "the washington post" that americans can minimize that by getting seasonal flu shots early in the fall. and although a vaccine against coronavirus will not be ready by then federal health officials say better monitoring systems will be in place. >> we are also hoping by that time that we have additional treatment options for people with covid-19 so that there will

be additional treatment available in the fall. >> a preliminary study looking at va patients with covid-19 suggests that malaria drug hydroxychloroquine did not improve outcomes and was associated with higher fatality rates. experts cautioned that this was not a double-blind random placebo study and looked at a relatively small patient sample. >> it's not definitive data, but doctors should incorporate that into the decision-making that they make on a one-on-one basis. >> so in other words, talk to your doctor if you have concerns about this. the study has been submitted to "the new england journal of medicine" entity is awaiting peer review. >> all right, jonathan serrie, thank you. >> sandra: georgia's governor allowing some nonessential businesses to reopen but not everyone is on board with that decision. this "wall street journal"

headline reading "in atlanta many business owners bristle at reopening the plan. they are, good morning and thanks for being here. >> good morning and thank you so much for the opportunity. >> sandra: why are you against the governor's plan to start reopening some of those nonessential businesses? >> i think it has been very clear. here in savannah we've been keeping the faith but following the signs, from the white house's own guideline. gradual reopening's, those are boxes that need to be checked. among those is a 14 day decline in infections, hospitalizations and expanded testing. here in georgia now with over 800 deaths and over 25,000 people infected and a steady increase in infections, we have not met that threshold as of yet. we are at the 14th highest infection rate and of the

seventh lowest testing rate in the country. those are just some of the scientific reasons by which, i think we have to be careful. i know the governor is very concerned about georgia businesses and certainly we are all concerned about george's businesses. >> sandra: so as far as seeing that downward should trajectory of downward cases and deaths, and your view, savannah, georgia, you are not there yet. here's the governor explaining his decision on "the story" last night. >> i announce this on monday so we can have time to educate the public in the business owners, that this is not just handing them the keys back to go back to where we were. it's a measured approach to guidance that we will be putting out. >> sandra: so to be fair the governor is not saying,

all right, let's just blanket reopen the entire state. he sang for some of those nonessential businesses as long as they are practicing social distancing guidelines and taking precautionary measures as far as antibacterial, washing hands at all of those things, he says let's gradually start opening some areas. you can understand the anxiety to do so. have you spoken with the governor to do this? >> i have not spoken with the governor since this had begun. we also have to educate the government. we have currently a stay-at-home order issued by the governor that expires on april 30th. yet we are opening businesses on april 24th and 27. that creates confusion and obviously we want to be very clear that we are all running on the same game plan. >> sandra: i understand you

are also against the reopening of restaurants and some gyms. some gems you can keep distance from each other but he says i'm willing to give people the benefit of the doubt, that if you reopen the gyms and people go back in there, they are going to know to keep their distance with each other. i know you disagree also with that move. >> i think the science disagrees with that and certainly all of the medical experts up and down the chain, we are social beings and we have stayed apart from each other. we have to do all that we can to ensure that we are gradually phasing in, in a very very defined way. opening up gyms and movie theaters, restaurants, it makes it very, very difficult for people.

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>> the first and most important quality is someone, who if i walked away immediately from the office for whatever reason, that they could be president. and i know how it worked with barack and me. he told me at the time, pick someone who has some background or some confidence that may not be your strong point and make sure that you are able to make up for each other's weaknesses. >> ed: joe biden on some of the qualities he will be looking for. he will name a search panel i

made for, or possibly next week. he said he wants to pick a woman and expects to have a short list of two or three by july. martha maccallum anchors at "the story" and she is joining us from home. we have christmas you onset here, but it's wonderful to have you every night at seven. how are you? >> it's great, i'm wonderful and it's good to see you. i spoke with a 96-year-old world war ii veteran last night who said that this is all going to be over soon. so i will take his word for it. >> ed: you and i were reminiscing and we were in iowa doing a podcast thing. we haven't done that, but joe biden has been in the basement in delaware trying to get people's attention and this vp search is something that maybe can shake things up for him.

>> you know, i kind of feel that there is a little bit of momentum starting to turn. as we follow news cycles obviously we have been 100% involved in this which is -- in this coronavirus story which is the biggest story of the day. but i feel there is a shift going on and people starting to reach out and talk more about 2020. obviously for the biden campaign it's been tough to get any oxygen in the room given this story and given the president doing news briefings everything a night on this and really owning the conversation on it. so this discussion about the vp will be one opportunity for him to sort of make his mark and get into the new cycle a little bit. and it's really stretched out, he is saying he will be narrowing it down to two or three choices in july and it's getting closer and closer to convention time. it's also interesting to see, the fact that he is addressing the issue of whether or not he would be there for two terms i find very interesting. he says, you know, i would make it very clear early in the

second term -- in the first term if i wasn't going to want to continue into the second term. given the language around that come up that he's even opening that door is kind of interesting. of course it goes right into the question of who his vp choice would be. >> ed: and to your point which would raise the stakes for whomever that may be, they have some experience. but particularly on national security, you think about gretchen whitmer who is a newcomer on the stage and has faced some resistance with this protest in michigan about how she has handled the situation on the ground. you have a screenshot here of all the different possibilities, stacy abrams in georgia very popular with the democratic base, but again it doesn't have a lot of experience on the national stage. among the others, amy klobuchar, who is somebody who -- the smart money seems to be on klobuchar right now which might mean something and it might mean nothing. >> you know, i think that, given

the circumstances that we are in, people are going to look for a team that presents sort of a safe, experienced, seasoned option. it doesn't feel like this is a moment to kind of reach too far outside of the box in terms of the choice that the vice president makes and i think that is one of the reasons that you hear a lot of sort of gravity around amy klobuchar. it's also interesting to note that she was one of the last candidates to really hang in there and she was gaining upward traction so there is interest in her as a candidate and there is obviously a base out there that wanted her to get as far as she did. i think she is an interesting person to keep a close eye on, obviously there is a lot of other people in the mix and the vice president even brought up michelle obama as a possibility. i don't think there's any indication that that something that she wants to do but clearly it continues to hammer home his

connection to the obama family. >> ed: absolutely. even though at the beginning has set i'm not looking for the former presidents endorsement, he certainly liked it when he eventually got it. let's end with covid-19 and everything you been talking about night after night. you had marco rubio on, you are talking about a specific issue here and there is money pouring out of washington but the associated press reported that a lot of the small business money had been going to some of the bigger guys. here's marco rubio. >> everyone who borrows has to sign a certification that says they've been harmed by this crisis and they need the loan. if you sign the certification and that's not true, you've lied to the federal government and falsely certified. >> everyone was talking about shake shack getting the $10 million and they are getting it back now, but shake shack locations not just in america but all around the world, to call the small business, they

are hardware stores, and coffee shops all across america saying, we want just a little bit less, not even a million dollars. something's got to give here. >> it does seem as though the big banks got a lot of the attention in terms of where this money went, the smaller lenders are the ones that are working more closely with the small businesses. unfortunately when you are dealing with trillions of dollars, this is what we find, when the government takes over this sort of program and tries to get it out very quickly. then, they put the banks in as the middleman. the bankers are calling all of these institutions and saying, let's work together, let's get you this loan. as a result, you are seeing money going to some places that were certified, according to the banks, when they made those arrangements. >> absolutely. martha, will be watching at 7:00 p.m. tonight, thanks for coming on. >> good to see martha as well.

president trump meanwhile issuing a warning to iran tweeting, i have instructed the united states navy to shoot down any and all iranian gunboats if they harass our ships at sea. this coming as the pentagon approached u.s. ships in a dangerous way in the persian gulf recently. lucas tomlinson is following all of this for us at the pentagon this morning. >> the u.s. military second ranking officer just said that the president is crystal clear. this video aired on fox & friends about 30 minutes before the president's tweet, circling u.s. warships in the northern persian gulf last week. the u.s. navy sent warships to the area for the first time in months to conduct joint training not far from iran.

u.s. officials tell me at this point the u.s. intelligence has not detected any new satellites orbiting earth meaning this launch was likely a failure. the u.s. resolution calls upon not iran but now forbids them from doing this test. they have used the same technology to put satellites into space or tried to, and secretary of state pompeo recently warned the arms embargo in iran expires in six months. earlier this month at the uss paul hamilton i guided missile destroyer you did some target practice to prepare for the real thing if ordered. the uss bataan amphibious ready group with 2,000 marines on board is also in the persian gulf as well. in that pentagon briefing, i mentioned it still ongoing and we will provide some updates later today should we learn mo more. >> sandra: lucas tomlinson at

the pentagon, thank you. >> ed: meanwhile louisiana is one of several states hit hard by the pandemic. now one family owned a grocery store chain is going above and beyond to help the community. the ceo joins us just ahead. plus some states taking steps to reopen as the u.s. reels from the economic fallout of all of this. one of them is the governor mike dunleavy. >> president trump: they will be doing it safely and with tremendous passion. they want to get back to work, the country wants to get back to work. one call to newday can save you $2000 a year. with newday's va streamline refi there's no income verification, no home appraisal, and no out of pocket costs. it's the quickest and easiest refi they've ever offered. call newday now.

>> ed: a fox news alert, governor cuomo stepping up with his meeting fresh off the microphone yesterday. >> really intense terrible situations for a long time in the past but it feels very long and it's very stressful. and that's across the board. you have families that haven't had a paycheck come in in a couple of months and meanwhile, the bills keep coming in. that's tremendous economic anxiety and insecurity, and by the way, it's exactly right. when do i go back to work and when do i get another paycheck? that's a pressure that people feel in the household, even the good part of it. well, my family is together.

i have my three girls and that's nice and that's good news but you put even the family together and you lock them up, cabin fever, everyone has their own stress that they are dealing with and everyone is trying to figure out their life. they are all together in this intense. and even that is stressful. i feel it in my own household. my daughters are getting tired of my jokes, believe it or not, how that can happen i have no idea. but somehow they managed to do that. we even have trouble now picking a movie at night because the rule is, if you pick a bad movie then you are on movie probation and you don't get to pick the next movie. everybody is on movie probation in my house now so that's a problem. even the dog, captain, is out of sorts and relating to stress, too many people in the house and he is having trouble adjusting.

captain doesn't like the boyfriend. i said i like the boyfriend so it's nothing that i said. but all sorts of tension that people are living with. real tension, day-to-day stress. so it's a terrible period of time, and i got it. but we have to deal with it. >> ed: you are listening to the governor of new york, andrew cuomo, talking about a lot of personal stuff. we will continue to monitor it. >> sandra: thank you very much. we will continue to monitor the governor's words there. alaska's governor is rolling out a plan to reopen his state's economy. beginning with lifting it stay-at-home order yesterday. restaurants and retail businesses scheduled to reopen on friday, nonessential medical procedures could restart as soon as may 4th. but, k-12 schools will remain

closed for the remainder of the year. joining us now is alaska governor mike dunleavy. so good of you to be here with us. so how are you doing this and how did you make the decision to open when you did? >> alaska is it in a unique spot, we are detached from the lower 48 as we call it by many miles. but with that said, we have the lowest cases in the country in terms of the virus. we've done up pretty good job of keeping that caseload down. what we've decided to do is, watching metrics meeting our icu bed count, the number of cases, the r-0 infections, we monitor it quickly. then we go through another phase if we don't see a spike in cases. so health this first, we watch

it very carefully. but as others have said it, and health isn't just about the virus, it's about the overall economy, mental health, emotional health. alaska is ready to start moving through some phases but we will watch it very, very carefully. >> sandra: and so you are opening some of the nonessential businesses and some of the elective surgeries could begin as soon as may 4th. you are 1 of 3 states that still has the number of covid-19 deaths that are below ten. 329 confirmed cases. so we understand where you are coming from on that, however the cdc is warning that the worst may not be over in some areas of the country. some areas that hadn't been hard-hit could see a surge in cases and they are even looking out to next winter now and the head of the cdc it is saying that this combined with the flu season could bring on a second wave of all of this and could be the worst we are experiencing.

so where do your concerns lie with all that? >> we don't know and what they say could be true. we have to be guided by the data, and right now the data shows that our numbers are low. our value has been low, and so again we built the spike in alaska. will we get more cases as time goes on? probably. will we get folks that are ill? probably. we watch very carefully, we can isolate if there is an outbreak in a particular establishment or area of the state. we can monitor that and we can come in pretty quickly. if we have to close the establishment down we can do that, and isolate those folks. we have to start moving in the direction of opening up the economy. there is no precedent, anywhere in history that we can think of to continue to live the life, the standard of living that you want to once had without

working. we believe there's a middle road, we can keep our cases down and we can keep an eye on it and use science to guide through this. >> sandra: so you've made the decision to open up some of these businesses, and it keeping k-12 schools shot through the remainder of the year. why did you end up making that decision if you feel like you've got this under control? >> good question. alaska is a tale of two states, we are kind of like north dakota or wyoming in some ways, spread out and a house here at the house they are. very small communities but they are tightly packed together. there's a house next to a house, next to a house. the medical facilities out in those isolated communities, we have 150 or 200 communities that are 100 miles and they don't have the medical facilities that urban alaska does. so the schools would serve if we needed to use them as a place to

quarantine folks, set up additional medical facilities, just to use those buildings to deal with this pandemic if there is an outbreak. we thought it was best to cancel school for the rest of the year, and focus on the physical health and mental health and emotional health of our fellow alaskans and keep those school buildings available to be used if we had to. >> sandra: governor, we were just listening to the beginning of the briefing who oftentimes has described it that when we reopen it has to be a coordinated effort. new yorkers from other areas of the state will then go to those open areas and you will get that travel that might not be so good for the spread of this thing. in alaska if you reopen, what do you do about tourism and people traveling to the area from other parts of the country that might be more hard-hit then your sta state? final thoughts. >> we are only allowing central

travel right now into the state of alaska and so we have been pretty much isolated. we were that state that brought in the plane load of u.s. state department officials and their families in january that came in from wuhan. we've stood up our operations, and the only two providences, and we are pretty well isolated. you can keep nonessential travel down but in some of our rural communities we believe we can keep these numbers low. >> ed: very good information. governor dunleavy from alaska. >> in the meantime, north korean media silent after kim jong un and several reports raise questions about his health. a live report, straight ahead.

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>> ed: fox news alert now has promised to come up with been monitoring andrew cuomo's briefing and moments ago he talked about his meeting with president trump at the white house. >> politically he does not -- we had conflicts back and forth. but we sat with him, we sat with his team and that was put aside because who really cares how i feel or how he feels? who cares? get the job done. don't care if you like him or he likes you, we are not setting up a possible marriage here. just do the job. >> ed: it just do the job, the

governor said. he also noted that the curve is still flattening here in new york and we will continue to monitor that news conference and others around the country. >> sandra: fox news alert, still no word on the condition of north korean leader kim jong un after reports that he was in great condition following his surgery. the company's media sparking speculation about his health and who would succeed him if he were to die. senior corporation foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot is following all of that from our bureau. >> the whereabouts in the condition of the north korean leader kim jong un still remains quite a mystery. you will recall a south korean website this week claims that ten days ago, chairman kim had a heart operation. other reports said the recovery was not the best, one said he was in great condition. it is true during that time he has not been seen. even missing an important holiday in pyongyang.

today i spoke with unofficial it of the south korean president and they confirmed that they are not seeing anything unusual regarding chairman kim, and here is what president trump said last night. take a look. >> president trump: i can only say that, i wish him well because if he is in the kind of condition that the reports are saying and the news is saying, that's a very serious condition. but i wish him well. >> now another source says that while in operation might be plausible, him being in bad shape, he's highly skeptical about that. that doesn't stop more speculation though about a possible succession. there are reports today that his sister has been getting more political titles lately. and then sandra there is the other explanation that is being discussed. kim jong un might just be sheltering at home and at the left outside of pyongyang, away

from covid-19. it's a very important report today in "the new york times" that says coronavirus in fact is a very bad in north korea. another sign that he might be working from home. north korean state media today released a message that the chairman had allegedly sent the syrian president bashar al-assad to. keep your distance from the facts, or from covid. we'll see what happens. back to you. >> sandra: all right, greg palkot, thanks for that. >> ed: we are telling stories of america coming together in this pandemic. how a grocery store based in louisiana is extending a helping hand to his community. we will talk to the chief of that chain, coming up. helps you take advantage refi of some of the lowest mortgage rates we've ever seen. one call to newday can save you $2000 a year.

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>> ed: one family owned grocery torch chain in louisiana going above and beyond. they are selling ready-made meals and often jumps out of work employees pure that's really good stuff. now, the ceo. donnie, it is so wonderful to have you here. first of all, the restaurant piece of this. it could have been the case where you say, "hey, the restaurants are hurting right now. more people are going to cook from home. i'll just sell my stuff and we could profit." we are bringing the restaurants in. tell us about that. >> we've always had a great partnership with the restaurants. they shop with us, we want to

make sure that we help them out all the time. we started out with big mike's smokehouse. we tested out some things there and moved into new orleans. they are selling some of their top items in our stories, and they are taking all the sales right back. >> ed: talk about your new employees. it's one thing to take care of your employees, and that's great, but to reach out in the community, you've gotten demand up right now. seeing this in grocery stores around this great country. here are reaching out other folks and saying, "i know you need some work, come on in. >> we've hired since march, about 30% of them of come from the restaurant and hospitality industry, which is really a great fit for our stories. we love food, our customers love food. it's great fit for us. v7 who doesn't love food? you're bringing people together with something we all enjoy. you know, the arc of the story,

health care workers have been front and center, rightly so. we've been honoring them. they really are on the front lines. i think over the course of this story, more and more people around america have been saying the grocery store workers were not really recognize before. but they're also on the front lines in the best way, making sure people are fed, and families are doing well. leaving at the risk of their own lives. >> absolutely, harvester employees, they see thousands of come to my customers a day come through. especially her cashiers. they are doing a great job keeping the store sanitized. servicing the community and the customers. >> ed: how do you do that, in terms of the sanitation? sanitizing things, making sure people feel comfortable about coming into a store, that the grocery cart is clean? that when they are reaching on the shelves, maybe this is something you didn't think about

before. >> we have a great team in place, we've put a great program together. we are communicating with other grocers around the country. wiping down shopping carts between each use, cash registe registers, we have masks for employees to wear. also handing out masks for some customers this week, as well. >> ed: we know your state has been hard hit. so many lives lost. that's what we want to keep our focus on. the fact you're also helping other people in the aftermath to all that. we certainly appreciate you coming on. >> thank you very much. >> ed: sandra, i know louisiana means a lot to you as a test to all of us, but you have a particular soft spot, having been at lsu. it's great seeing that. >> sandra: that chained originated from louisiana, had a lot of friends from there when i went to school down there. i suspending these hours with you.

>> ed: looking for tomorrow. >> sandra: absolutely. we will have continuing coverage on the fox news channel, and ed and i will see you not o'clock a.m. eastern tomorrow morning. thank you so much for joining us. don't miss it. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: new concerns today about coronavirus flaring up again in the united states. the cdc director, robert redfield, his warning about a second wave of the virus later this year. he said it could be more devastating than what we are seeing now. "there's a possibility the assault of the virus on our nation less winter will be more difficult than the one we just went through. we are going to have the flu epidemic and the coronavirus epidemic at the same time." fda director stephen 11 says the worst case scenarios are to be taken into account. >> it certainly possibility. the whole task force and doctors are concerned about the second wave. dr. redfield's concern is that there also might be