express their outrage. vegan senator cory booker chimed in if you don't change your routine, -- i think you are doing it wrong. we could all agree. let not your hearts be troubled and we will always be fair and balanced, we seek the truth, laura ingraham is standing by. would you eat that sandwich or whatever you want to call it? >> laura: i don't think so. i don't -- i don't think so. i don't -- i don't -- it doesn't look that appetizing. john, i have to say just seeing you laugh at the end of the show, don't you get the sense the whole country just wants to bust out laughing? i mean, we all need humor and our lives, entertainment, have fun. you know, the come out. >> sean: the crazy people. the crazy people will say laura ingraham is laughing during a pandemic. no, you're not. ellen gives just 5 minutes of relief, stop attacking the lady.

good grief! >> laura: ln has done some segments on her show that is so. you need humor during difficult times and your faith and your family to get through. anyway, i just like to laugh. it puts me in a great mood. great show as always, hannity. >> sean: you have a great show tonight. >> laura: we are talking pompeo. i am laura ingraham and this is "the ingraham angle" from watching tooth tonight why the media paneling a new shoddy survey on hydroxychloroquine? so they can use it to do what? smear their political opponents. is this a tedious playbook at this point? in moments, i will respond to the very shameful and very shortsighted attacks. in my medicine cabinet lays out what the science right now as it stands really says. plus, secretary of state mike pompeo is here exclusively with answers to what should

happen to the w.h.o. leadership. this is very important. he is going to give us details on the theory that the virus accidentally escaped from that wuhan lab as well. the coronavirus pandemic has exposed cnn for what it really is. and speaking of funny, it is kind of a reality show masquerading as a news network now. they had to go to some brand. raymond arroyo has a scene and it is hilarious. you don't want to miss it. but first my thoughts at the end of day 37, america in shut down. all right when we use the phrase scientific study and a headliner on television it is meant to convey a seriousness of scientific rigor. when such studies conducted on patience, researchers must account for variables such as a patient's age, medical history, current disease possession just to name a few things. then the manner in which that data is organized examined and

then reported can determine a lie about what whether the story is credible or not. well a survey or a study released yesterday on hydroxychloroquine for use on covid patience is shockingly irresponsible. and top virologist are saying perhaps even agenda driven. it was published in preprint form and not yet peer reviewed and claims show that hydroxychloroquine shows no effectiveness against covid and its use could actually according to the survey lead to an even higher fatality rate. it sounds terrible. well, that is when the headline readers who hate trump, and of course this network, that is when they pounce. trump and someone at fox reported patience were benefiting from hydroxychloroquine. obviously, i was one of them reporting on that. and now this study they say shows hydroxychloroquine kills people so -- not only is there no medical benefit, the study shows higher death rates among

patience who took it? yes, much higher death rates. >> it could actually be harming patience who take it. medical professionals have repeatedly urged cautious but l.a. at fox news do not have patients. >> they are misleading their viewers. why would they think and fox news door or any president promoting a drug? it is outlandish. >> well, first of all i'm stating the obvious but cnn has zero credibility. one of their anchors this week just made a fake post covid recovery video. okay, they have zero standing to critique everyone's motives or trustworthiness. may be people want to help america, ever heard of it? the jackals at media had their prey trapped in our journalism is such a joke that even "the washington post" and tonight's "new york times" reflectively joined the pig pile. it is just pathetic. i'm not a doctor and i don't play one on tv but dr. released

his own study on hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin and 90% effectiveness in patients with zero side effects. there was one outcome that was not good, but the patients that recovered, zero side effects. well, today that same professor who is a renowned infectious disease expert issued a devastating response to the researchers who looked at the veterans affairs patients. he said "in the current period, it seems passion dominates rigorous and balanced scientific analysis and may lead scientific misconduct. "and the article the study he is referring to is an absolutely spectacular example of this. the analysis of the data shows two major biases and he goes on to mention three. twice as common in the age cq azithromycin don't make

hydroxychloroquine as the age cq groups and correlation between fatality rate which is well known. well, that obviously would account for a higher rate of deaths in those two groups which thinkers were so excited to dog them out. well, another reason a study is that it appears from one of the tables in the study, it appears that it shows significant differences in outcomes that hydroxychloroquine, hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin was given after patients were incubated. while as doctors on the show said multiple times and as professor said, this is unreasonable at the time of the storm. that is after you got really sick as it is unlikely that hydroxychloroquine alone would be able to control patients at this stage of the disease. translation? the later you take hydroxychloroquine, likely the worse the outcome will be.

so you shouldn't be administering it here without explanation. okay, that level of disease, that stage of the disease but the trump dating waving around the survey did not notice that "incomprehensibly the untreated group actually received the azithromycin and 30% of the cases. without this group being analyzed in any distinct way. all right, news flash, azithromycin is a proposed treatment for covid with in vitro efficacy. it doesn't take a phd in microbiology, guys. understand that the group that was untreated cannot then be treated with meds that are actually in their own way perhaps partially effective. it is therapy. even the secretary of veterans affairs had to admit the weakness of the study. >> that is an observational study, not a clinical study done on nice small number of veterans, sadly those in the

last stages of life in the drug was given to them. we know the drug has been working on middle age and younger governors. to the city of new york. >> working and stopping the progression of the disease. >> laura: so this begs the question, why did the associated press, one of the truly professional media outlets left in america, why did they go over the story? check out the headline. there it is, more deaths, no benefits. this is ap. do they have any standards? surely, they have some really smart folks over there that want to help people and have all the copycats in there but read the study were the survey. like many others, i agree that wider studies, course they should be conducted, they should be ongoing to determine the efficacy of this drug in any. but why deny or even mention the positive results from legitimate studies in favor of the shoddy

surveys like the one we just discussed that seem to be irresponsibly then repurposed by the ap? so what is driving this? a blind obsession to disprove the effectiveness of a drug that is being used right now, tonight medical centers across america with covid patients. a drug that's been around for decades. is this the mad impulse or any benefit from that therapy or is it triggered by pure hatred of trump and fox and me? i don't know. a desire to keep america hopeless or the shutdown going on through the election? i'm open to any theory at this point. if the impulse was purely scientific and health focused, why haven't we seen the same volume of coverage and scrutiny of other far more expensive, and also, you know, no controls completely double line study unproven treatments?

remdesivir, i have talked about both of them but just to name a few. hydroxychloroquine as we said before is very cheap, highly scalable and been around for decades and decades and decades. big pharma does not make its money on cheap generics. news flash number two. they make their money on new drug and vaccines. some of those can be great. they might work better. they might be the all in -- indole. but remember a lot of the big drug companies doing great work, they do give a lot of money to nih, cdc and the w.h.o., just saying. now, hydroxychloroquine is the recommended standard of care for all patients at new haven hospital, new lenox and jewish medical center, staten island article hospital and many others. so my question to michael of "the new york times" and all these other people come are they killing people too? maybe we should ask brian

statler. since trump election the media and democrats have tried everything in their power to defeat him. but they failed spectacularly every time. and this most recent hydroxychloroquine episode, once again confirms not only the ranked bias but in some cases, their finality and sloppiness as well. and those are my thoughts at the end of day 37, america and shut down. all right joining me now are two doctors in my medicine cabinet were actually on the front line treating covid patients including treating them with hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and other therapies as well. but infectious diseases and urban health and dr. jeff colyer, former kansas governor and chair of the national advisory committee on health and human services. dr. smith come i want to start with you. you've been on the show many times talking about what you see day in and day out with the therapies that we have

available, hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and others. why is the effectiveness of the drug in patients today, tonight, last week, the week before, why is it being ignored or even being maligned or what have you? what is your theory? >> i think, perhaps, political reasons and in fact i could never understand. there is other issues. one is there's not a drug that we are familiar with. infectious disease doctors are not familiar with hydroxychloroquine, which is not a nutritional biotic. it affects the host of metabolism. and i know it is effective, so i don't think it is effective, i know it is from our data. but the first time we attempted to affect the hose were in inner loop and tube to affect host of metabolism with a small molecule. it is unheard of. and i'm not familiar with it.

it is a very unusual drug. it takes seven months to reach the state. the 24-milligram dose being used by a lot of american physicians is absurd. it is extremely low and given to everybody the same mass and weight. i realize that because i was using it. i was using it the same 24 million-gram dose over five days, 80 pounds, as i was 45-year-old man that way over 300 pounds. one or both was getting the wrong dose. so it builds up over time. total doses what matters. and of course, earlier with any infection treatment matters. and that is what we are seeing now and basically dosing as is done in fda approved clinical trials, which over 300 of the approved clinical trials of hydroxychloroquine. several trials or looking at

prediabetes. and of course, and prediabetics they have to use of weight-based dosing. they are given a lot more hydroxychloroquine to the obese prediabetics and we are to the obese, covid patients. >> laura: dr. collier come i want to get you in on this because it is about czar obsess. they think we are obsessed with hydroxychloroquine but we are actually obsessed with helping americans with whatever tools there are. if there is a better dry, great, 10% of the cases, do the math. what is that 6,000 people? i'm just doing it all for the top of my head. so what is going on here? what have you seen, dr.? >> you know, we have really about three drugs right now that seem to have some sort of effe effect. hydroxychloroquine, remdesivir, and plasma. but what we really need to do, we need to try all of these things. having over 100 studies on hydroxychloroquine out there right now, just taking this one

little data point to try to make politics out of it is exactly the wrong thing to do smoke we need real time to let it happen. >> laura: see come i think it is incredibly important that obviously we develop these therapies to treat covid-19 because we may never get a vaccine. and i took a lot of heat, dr. smith my thought of you because of all of your great work on hiv and your dad worked on hiv over the years. i took a lot of heat for even asking dr. fauci this question last week. watch. we don't have a vaccine for sars, they got close in mice. we don't have a vaccine for hiv, and life did go on, right? so the idea that we definitely will have an vaccine, we didn't approach much else in the same way as we are pegging going back to normal with a vaccine, did way? >> laura: today "the wall street journal" quoted the top immunologist making

exact same point i did. he said you would think after 49 years of being aware of hiv and studying it would have a vaccine for that, but we don't bear that is why i'm very cautious to tell people we will have a vaccine for covid-19. dr. smith, thoughts on that? >> i entirely agree. i spent most of my virology filled in the field but i never studied vaccines, but i did read literature. there was a lot of wasted effort and money and vaccines after we knew the approaches were not going to work. and dr. fauci is well aware of this. i'm not trying to say that but he's well aware of the studies. we knew pretty early on that most approaches towards vaccination for viruses were not going to work in hiv. there was no reason to think they would. so they didn't. we pursued them anyway. corona viruses today have not had a vaccine development, as you pointed out.

i don't know the chances of having one or not. i can't -- that is crystal ball type stuff. i hope there is one. but the vaccines are given to a lot of people. so the safety is a huge issue as well. so just efficacy alone is not enough. you need to prove that you are not causing any -- >> laura: dr. smith i'm sorry to jump in but real quickly. are you seeing horrific side effects with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin when you give it? routinely, people say the side effects are horrific. i took it when i went to africa three times on three different occasions and i know it's a different dose but i did not have side effects. are you seeing horrific side effects? >> personally know. and 400 a day. at the literature on this drug, unbelievably, a week and a half ago, i started looking into the arthritis literature. and i don't want to -- it sounds like i'm getting on a bandwagon

here, but the best safety profile that i have seen in the plus studies, the french study on lupus. >> laura: some people understand and i'd i don't mean to cut you off, but people who are on hydroxychloroquine for a variety of diseases, in lupus and other diseases of the skin, it has been shown to be extremely safe. >> not only is it -- >> laura: go ahead, real quick. >> that is absolutely true. they didn't even measure ekgs. but also the measures in lupus patients are five to ten times higher than we are seeing in our patients. >> laura: okay, right, incredibly important. dr. collier, this big scoop today but i have to ask you about it. a doctor who says hhs punished him for questioning hydroxychloroquine, now the media ran all day with this narrative. >> it seems retaliated against him removed from his position because he did not go along but the president and other

administration officials who were pushing hydroxychloroquine. >> this is a remarkable and depressing development. it shows that it supersedes science, politics. he was pushed out of his job trying to protect americans. >> laura: there's just one little problem with that, the trump administration has been working out right since last year, further internal emails further show that he supported hhs acquiring more shipments of... wait for it, hydroxychloroquine. anti-trump sentiment is driving the new cycle whether against hydroxychloroquine or why someone gets removed from office. what are your thoughts on just that little illustration? >> you know, you see this all the time. you are seeing these things get politicized. people ignore things. you know, for example in the journal of cardiology back in september, there was an article about elongation. that is what people are criticizing hydroxychloroquine.

however, when it is 68,000 americans teenager that were tested because they were using marijuana and they ended up having increased cutie intervals, you didn't see an article, you didn't see it in te newspaper that those things are happening there. i think we just need to look at the signs come up with those studies get done. work with doctors because when you treat people early, you get better results. it's been when i can't wait until people are incubated. it is unlikely to work at that point. gentlemen, thank you so much. both of you have been so helpful throughout this whole thing and giving us actual data analysis. we really appreciate it. thank you so much. i have another question, is the future of the u.s. supports the w.h.o., is it contention on the county's resigning? as secretary of state mike pompeo in a moment. plus, an update what we know the investigation into the origin of the virus coming up.

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♪ >> the global emergency on january 17th. and that was declared based on experts. i think we declared an emergency at the right time. and when the world had enough time to respond. >> laura: that was w.h.o. director general former who marxist revolutionary. we gave you that expose the other night. and just today, he offered his defense of his handling or of course mishandling of the coronavirus outbreak. this comes a week after president trump put a hold on the funding for w.h.o. which is great news, given that organization complicity and

china's open cover up your joining me exclusively as secretary of state mike pompeo. mr. secretary, thank you for being here tonight. earlier this week, he said the global community should demand that tedros adhanom and his cronies resign in order to just get this behind everyone. what is the stay -- state of play with the relationship right at this moment with the w.h.o.? >> laura, thank you for having me first of all, the president has stopped all u.s. from the world health organization and completely appropriate given the recent history. laura, you have a sophisticated set of viewers that remembers this is not the first time the world health organization has failed to do what it needs to do when a pandemic begins to break out. in fact, i'm very worried that we are still not getting it right. so you recounted what happen in january the 8th delay of that announcement and china and the world health organization did not do that but even today the chinese government has

permitted american scientist to go into china to go into not only wuhan lab where ever it needs to go to learn about this virus, to learn about its origins. we know it began in wuhan, but we need to figure this out. there is an ongoing pandemic. we still don't have the transparency and openness in china. and it is the world health organization to achieve that transparency. they are not doing that. they need to be held accountable. what is great to see the countries begin to recognize w.h.o.'s failures as well. >> laura: this is an opportunity, mr. secretary for the united states to take the leadership role given the closeness that the w.h.o. has with china, which spends a fraction of the money we have been sending to the w.h.o. so given all of this, given everything that has happened, shouldn't tedros be called on to resign before we go forward at all in a relationship with the w.h.o.? >> i think we have to take a real hard look at the w.h.o. and

what we do coming out of this. laura, we reformed this back in 2007 so this is not the first time we've had to deal with the shortcomings of this organization that sits inside the united nations. we need to fix, we need a structural fiction for the w.h.o. >> laura: if we are talking about real accountability here, the guys leaving the organization i don't see how he can be part of the solution. so tonight you are not ruling out that that might be one of the requirements for going forward with the w.h.o. you are not ruling that out. >> no, i think that is right. laura, even more than that. it may be the case the united states may never return to u.s. taxpayer dollars. we need -- may need bolder change than that. >> laura: make our own organization. senator tom cotton wrote a phenomenal piece in "the wall street journal" yesterday saying the u.s. government is investigating what covid-19 came from a government lab in wuhan and circumstantial to be sure, it points towards

the wuhan lab. china absolutely disavowals any culpability from that lab. as does the chief scientist, world-renowned scientist who runs the lab. she said the same thing in interviews last week. do you agree though that this is what the state of our information now is at this lab was the source of the virus that has done huge damage and loss of life i in the united states? >> laura, we don't know precisely where it started. that is the core problem. china kicked out journalists when the united states and president trump tried to get in to conduct an investigation that still needs to be undertaken. it still hasn't been done. when we tried to do that, the chinese denied access not only to the lab but the wet markets and all the places one would need to go to to identify their original source for this virus. we are still trying to get that information. we are still seeking transparency. >> laura: your predecessor come i know you are texting pals, john kerry claims

mr. secretary that we need to entangle ourselves even further with china going forward, watch. >> we have to work with china. you have to work with china on covid-19, on all pandemics. you have to work with china on the security challenges of the region. you have to work with china on cyber and cyber warfare. right now come i think the president is all over the place and even acting in the wrong direction. >> laura: cyber warfare? [laughter] we have to work with china? secretary pompeo, we are getting drones from china to spy on americans citizens of the mayor and locality. but john says keep it going. >> i am not sure where to begin, laura other than to say that president trump has taken fundamental different view with china then president obama did and secretary carrie did, whether it was the trade relationships and attempting to untangle or serious with china went conduct cyber text

against us. we will not tolerate that. here even in this, we would love to find a way to cooperate with the chinese. frankly i'm on all those things. but it takes a part of who is willing to do that as you describe here the biggest threat is the ability to work with china and cyber is to make sure we have the resources available to protect ourselves from chinese cyber attacks. these are the kind of things president trump is taking seriously, and we have to make sure we recognize the challenge that china represents to america and work with him where we can. snow and i have to ask you in closing, mr. secretary come aboa tweet from president trump earlier today. he said i instructed the united states navy to shoot down and destroy any and all gunboats if they harass our ships at sea. this came after iran had successfully put into orbit what is called its first, i guess its first satellite military satellite hours before the street. so where do things stand at this

hour? that is a pretty serious threat coming from the united states. what's next? >> it is pretty serious. it is a coincidence that you asked that question right about talking about john kerry. you will recall out under the obama administration secretary carrie took out the navy and apologize to get them back. this is a different approach from the president. he takes seriously the obligation to protect the forces wherever they may be. in this case on naval ships and arabian gulf. we will do everything we can to make sure we defend our folks and continued to deter islamic republic of iran. the last thing to say they launch this military satellite today and promise they were in tile the mcintyre missile program with civilian and the person who oversold this launch. this is the same fellow who forced to shut down eight aircraft killing 176 and six innocent civilians just a few weeks ago. >> laura: how comfortable are you dealing with kim jong un's sister if for any period of time she becomes the leader of the

country going forward given the concerns that some are expressing about kim jong un's health right now, mr. secretary? >> i did get a chance to meet her a couple of times. the challenge remains to say that gold remains unchanged. whoever leads north korea we want them to give up their nuclear program and join the league of nations. we want a brighter future for the north korean people. they have to do nuclear ice and have to do so in a way we can verify. no matter who's leading north korea. >> laura: mr. secretary thank you for spending time with us tonight. >> yes, ma'am, thank you, laura. >> laura: the reality show masquerading as a new network, raymond arroyo to break it down, in "seen and unseen." that is next

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♪ >> laura: it is time for "seen and unseen" segment where we expose the stories behind the headlines. all right, throughout the lockdown, cnn anchor seem to have increasingly become the story. for details we are joined by raymond arroyo fox news contributor and also, out in paperback. raymond, what is happening over there at james earl jones is old cnn? >> laura, the first rule of journalism is don't inject yourself into the story. but there seems to be a deliberate attempt to grab a slew of cnn anchors onto this covert crisis. a number of them have contracted

the virus and demoted their personal experiences. it almost appears a series of new reality shows. you could call this one come are you sicker than a cnn anchor? >> with coronavirus, it is like, i'm okay in the beginning and then, oh, no you are not. my buddy gave me the middle finger. >> there are two tests we are all becoming familiar with. a diagnostic test on this one from a test for antibodies. >> i've got a positive diagnosis for covid-19. i just have a nasty cough, which thankfully tonight because of azithromycin, not too much away. >> as for me i tested negative. >> we are just working on this art. >> christina said it didn't look right for me to be sick. in a suit. it looks like too much what i might be buried in. sorry. i don't want to do this. in my sickest days of my stop

thinking and really started feeling come i started thinking a lot about joy. why don't i go to the beach more? >> laura, the self referential emoting is what is so daunting. people are dying and losing their livelihoods. chances are young and healthy angst will not succumb to the disease. and to keep this narrative going every night that is so personal, it is disturbing. because you lose all perspective. it is great to have perspective, but to become the story is a big problem here. and cnn really should tamp down their personal stories. >> laura: we are glad everybody is getting better. you know, they are always kind of nasty to us. i'm sure they are all great people. i hope they are okay and i'm glad they are okay. >> i agree. >> laura: but i don't really get it. i guess is that the news? that is the news chris cuomo came out of the basement. >> we are getting to that.

anderson cooper who has not contracted the coronavirus took a lifestyle tacked, laura, in his covid story line. did you see that? >> laura: know come visit contracted or contracted? [laughter] i'm sorry. >> thanks for the angst, anyway -- >> laura: i saw that, it was quarantining grooming. you might show the vanderbilt rules. >> last night, i got a razor imposed my head and gave myself a bald spot. >> i've been walking around all day with my hand. >> anderson, now you will make that popular. and i would probably shave a hole. speed dimmick >> it is becoming personal and jeff zucker said years ago, he wanted to create "must-see tv" and with the story like -- i read an article in 2017 where he said "i've always

been interested in the facts, but i've always been interested in what is popular." by the way, if you haven't got enough of anderson cooper, he's doing a covid town hall this week with alicia keys, a kid you not. now the peace of the cnn reality universe has been chris cuomo. the covid positive anchor, the store of multiweek, cross-platform show including his governor brother which could have been called the real house husbands of the hamptons. [laughter] ♪ speak with the beast comes at night. my fever has gone up a couple of degrees. i'm not trying to scare people, but i've lost 13 pounds in three days. all right, here is the official reading from the basement. i would just give you one of these. just give you one of these. just give you one of these. >> if this were real, laura, it

would be fine, but it's not! as you said earlier, this was feigned, a faint recovery. he was out bicycling. while he pretended to be in the basement. >> laura: he was out in the hamptons looking at his property, god bless him that he is property, but some of the police saw him and tried to covid shame him. [laughter] and i kind of hate those people too. >> i agree. >> laura: a chinese drone. >> but don't advertise, don't advertise your quarantine and moralize about it with your brother every night saying you are going to kill people, when you are doing it! it's outrageous. >> laura: joe biden was back in the basement today for earth day with al gore. didn't go well. >> he was. >> we didn't organize the world. who organizes it? who organizes it? and there were so much -- anyway -- look, one more question here. is it too late to aggress the

claimant change in a meaningful way? >> the look on al gore's face, laura. and this is why hunter biden is $107 million beneath donald trump in fund-raising and al gore, al gore suggested today that we get rid of gas powered cars. biden agreed with him. >> laura: i couldn't follow that line of conversation between the two of them. an inconvenient segment. raymond arroyo oro, fantastic segment. all right, great seeing you. we will see you next time. aoc telling americans, do you think she is planning to go back to work? do you think so? we will tell you when we come back. next to respond you doing okay?

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>> laura: squad leader aoc is a new socialist rallying cry? work of the world, stay home. >> we talked about this idea of reopening society. you know, only in america does the president, when the president tweets about liberation does he mean go back to work. i think a lot of people should just say no. we are not going back to fast. >> laura: now, we told you more than a year ago that she would become the voice and face of the democratic party. the truth thought leader in many ways, and she has. but will liberal leaders look to her even more as they attempt to perhaps use this crisis to forge their socialist path? 20 made out ohio congressman jim jordan, and physician, dr. mark green. congressman jordan, democrats are already doing what they can to a slow roll any reopening of the country, but telling people not to go to work presumably ever if she doesn't get her way

with come i don't know, minimum wage or whatever they are callit these days? >> no, the democrat in the senate know exactly who they are, laura, released the legal aliens and pay states to let criminals out of jail, make essential businesses from stop americans from going to church and now tonight aoc says and don't go back to work. that is socialism. that is what the democrats have been for throughout this crisis. we need to get back to work. the president has laid out three phase template to go about that. let's start doing that today and not follow the crazy ideas of the left. >> laura: hey congressman greene, tennessee will have a phased-in reopening, and torture will be the first to reopen. the south is probably kind of lead the country, it looks like in reopening along with texas. were you surprised at the president today who said he didn't agree with what the georgia governor was doing here

and that he would prefer that they had done it a little more slowly? are you surprised by that? >> no, i wasn't. i mean, it is contrary a little bit to the guidance the president has put out. he wants to particularly those where people are in each other's face, salons, barber shops. i know in tennessee, we are following the president's guidelines in the phased approach. i think that is why the president spoke out to the georgia governor. >> laura: he said the governors will do what they were going to do. and that is what he said. is it called federalism? >> states rights. >> laura: but he decided to go that way. >> sure. >> laura: i want to go back to using this crisis to remake america. you have heard that from koo omo, have heard that from garcetti, congressman, but they mean it. aoc i take her seriously. people make fun of her but i take her seriously. she is fighting for what she believes in. she believes there should be a minimum standard of living for

everyone and that government should guarantee that standard of living beyond a minimum wage obviously but a standard of living. this is a good time, she believes, to advance that agenda. my question is, what are republicans doing to advance their agenda? >> no, you are right. they believe it all. the left, the left wants to do all the crazy things that i just gave on that list. they really believe it makes sense for the federal taxpayer to pay the state to let criminals out of jail, to let bad guys go free during this crisis we are in. we have to fight back on the way to fight back we talk about freedom, liberty and getting our economy moving again. they are out to stop this president. they are out to stop the things that we believe in. we've got to bite -- they are out to stop it so much, they wil pass tomorrow they select committee and we have eight different entities doing oversight of the money passed in the cares act, eight committees and a select committee to put cliburn in charge, and joe bide, and they will pass that tomorrow because this is

now going to make the new impeachment committee to go after the president during election year a summary of the election year. >> laura: congressman greene, speaker pelosi is taking credit for getting that ppp funding increase. watch. >> mitch mcconnell come i should say we delayed the deville. no, he delayed the bill. we were pleased that he finally came around to the fact that we had to go forward with this. >> laura: that is interesting because just last week she went on camera praising the senate democrats for blocking mcconnell's push. congressman greene, reaction. >> the hypocrisy is incredible, laura. she is actually the one on the cares act. they have a deal worked out. she parachutes and with 1400 pages of the green new deal, delays those payments for a week and then, you know, the boats here on repopulating the ppp, she held it up for two weeks. chuck schumer held it up for two

weeks. she praises him. this is crazy. it's almost like biden same trump is not hard on china. it is crazy. >> laura: congressman jordan come i have to say chuck schumer is now worried about borders. we don't have to pay the dash played the clip it on cnn the states that are opening up and tennessee, south carolina, georgia but he basically said, you know, we cross state borders. you could have the weakest link bring that to other states and i'm very worried about that. so he suddenly worried about borders, congressman. >> after all the obstacles they put up to the president dealing with the situation with the southern border, building the wall and what he said he was going to do. they are worried about borders but what they are really worried about is it's making tow for the country to get back to work. representing every day, they are ready to get back to work. >> laura: i have a feeling that joe biden, heaven forbid, would win the presidency of the day after the election.

well, this virus thing, i'm glad we have taken care of that. and keep it closed all the way through the fall. congressman, great seeing you tonight. thank you for coming on. coming up, gubernatorial candidate stacy abrams making threats to joe biden? the last bite explains. every financial plan needs a cfp® professional --

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democratic party. if we want to see that work will continue, we will reach not just certain parts of the community, but the entire country, we need a ticket that reflects the diversity of america. spiezio it's gone from i would consider, i wouldn't, to if you don't pick me you are racist and hate women. good luck with that pitch. that's all the time we have. shannon? >> shannon: it's always exciting, great to see you. exciting show. the debate about how soon is too soon and what is essential to our economy is heating up again tonight. governors and the white house tussle over the next move to save both jobs and lives. the president said he disagrees with the g.o.p. governor as georgia moves ahead with plans to reopen businesses like hair salons, gyms, and tattoo parlo parlors. up for their north, the mayor of new york telling unemployed americans that if they want to complain they should take one