are asked to be back on campus. >> dana: you might be my new favorite guest. things are coming on. i'd love to have you back. thanks for joining us, everybody. i'm dana perino. here's bill hemmer. >> bill: congress now gearing up for a vote on one bill as battle lines are drawn over another. here's a look at the house floor now debating a $484 billion bill to help small businesses and provide more money for hospitals and testing. this passes, it will be the fourth virus related bill rushed through congress bringing the total to nearly $3 trillion and counting. in a moment, i'll talk with senators from both sides about what comes next but first, mike emanuel live at capitol hill to track it all from washington. good afternoon to you. >> house speaker nancy pelosi is

celebrating some of the items democrats fought to get included in this $484 billion package. >> i'm very pleased it was transformed from the bill two weeks ago on the floor where the leader in the senate said this is it, 250, we are not doing anything else, that failed to get unanimous consent. at the same time that other proposal was put forth. >> a leading republican says the delay may have put small businesses and more americans out of work. >> it is unfortunate that speaker pelosi decided to hold up the spill nearly 16 days while small businesses and their workers desperately fought to hold on, especially minority owned businesses in underserved communities. they suffered and during this unnecessary delay, americans jobless numbers climbed to 26 million. >> this debate has featured some

lawmakers wearing protective masks. leadership does not want hundreds of house members clustered on the floor during social distancing so small groups of lawmakers organized alphabetically will vote together. the house g.o.p. leader emphasized every american is in this fight. >> will bring the same dedication that you bring to help others that you don't even know. and we should rise to that occasion. this is a commitment we make to every american. we will fight this virus together until we defeated together. >> a key democrat noted the difficulty of getting personal protective gear early on and notes this package will help. >> trying to find ppe's like something out of the movie "the hunger games." states competing with states competing with the federal government. >> once approved, it will go on to the president's desk for his signature. >> bill: unbelievable stuff.

so they will bring others in, we will see how long this goes. thank you, mike. unbelievable. first up, democratic senator talking about this and thank you for your time today. you helped negotiate this bill. how will it help, senator? >> i'm pleased that we were able to get another package through the senate on tuesday by an additional 250 billion for the paycheck protection program, and then an additional 60 billion that helps with the emergency injuries disaster loan program and the grants that are available through that program as well, some more help for small businesses which are in critical need of that help and more help for hospitals and for testing. we know it's going to take more testing to open up our economy and hopefully, this bill will help get us geared up to do th that. >> bill: an ongoing debate for states and cities across the

country and what they might need now and in the future. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell was on her program yesterday, and said the following about putting a pause on the request for billions of dollars for states, what he would consider a bailout. here's how that went. >> we are going to take a pause here. we're going to wait until at least may the 4th which is the time were going to have everybody back in, and clearly before we provide assistance to states and local governments who would love for us to borrow money from future generations to make sure that they have no revenue losses. we are not interested in solving their pension problems for them, not interested in rescuing them from bad decisions they've made in the past. >> bill: so that caught on like a prairie fire. he okay with that for the moment, senator? >> i'm not talking to any mayors in new hampshire or to governer sununu in new hampshire who thinks the federal government is going to solve the

pension problem. what they want his help with their effort to deal with the front lines of this epidemic. they are trying to keep their firefighters working, their frontline emts and emergency health workers on the job, and they really need help because revenues are way down and in the state of new hampshire, we are also still struggling with our substance use crisis, so we need help in all kinds of ways, and that's what the federal assistance that i've been pushing to get past is going to do. when small businesses are shut down and aren't working when their workers aren't working because they want unemployment, than that has an impact on the state of new hampshire and on the communities in our state. so we need to make sure that the help we provide goes to the people who need it most. >> bill: agreed on that and a lot of people would feel the

same. perhaps another day for another time, another date but the debate is going to come back around again. "wall street journal" characterized it this way. bailout the states, the question to ask is why taxpayers should rescue politicians and unions in albany and springfield. just listening to your answer there, it would appear you would agree with that. am i right on that? >> i'm sorry, i couldn't hear what you had to say. >> bill: "the wall street journal" says the question to ask is why taxpayers in appleton and sarasota should rescue politicians and unions in albany and springfield. i made the observation based on your answer it would appear that you would agree with that statement. am i right on that? >> as i said, i'm not hearing from cities and towns in new hampshire that they are looking for a bailout. what i'm hearing is that they're looking for help to deal with the very real challenges that are facing as they struggle with

addressing this coronavirus pandemic and as they struggle with keeping their workers working and the state of new hampshire as it tries to ensure that people get the services they need. so i don't think this is about trying to bailout anybody. i think it's about trying to get through this pandemic together in a way that ensures that as many small businesses can start up after so their workers can keep working, that we can keep our hospitals operating in our health care providers where they are. that's what we need to be focused on, and i don't think presenting this as a fight between different sectors of the united states it is really beneficial. we need to work on this together. we need bipartisan cooperation. that's what we have in washington today and i hope that's what's going to continue. >> bill: amen to that. thank you so much for your time. sorry about the connection the

there, technology all across the country. thank you. thom tillis, republican of north carolina joins the conversation now. thank you for your time. here is what governor cuomo said about mitch mcconnell's comments about three hours ago. >> how do you not fund police and fire and teachers and schools in the midst of this crisis? that's how you're going to bring this national economy back? by states declaring bankruptcy? you want to see that market fall through the seller? you will see a collapse of this national economy. so just don't. >> bill: you were listening to the back and forth, where does this go if anywhere at some point? >> i think what we need to do is make sure we don't take our eye off the ball of the $2.2 trillion economic support package for individuals and businesses. of course, we need to go back and figure out how we can make sure law enforcement,

first responders make up those agencies. that's a very different proposition than some states and towns that may be had bad financials before this virus ever started. so we can have that discussion, but why would we have that discussion now when the majority of the $2.2 trillion that was passed and the cares act is not flowing out yet. it's beginning to. people are starting to get their individual assistance, businesses are starting to get their loans but let's focus on that and then take a look at the real well-documented damage the federal government may play some role. >> bill: i mention this bill right now that will be voted in the house, we expected to pass and we can say that with a fair level of assuredness, but $484 billion. what's next? >> we need to look at the $320 billion that's going to go back into starting up the loan process, i'm very disappointed

that speaker pelosi and chuck schumer took two weeks to get it done, but now it's done. let's get those businesses in line and get the economic support that they need, get the additional funding we have in there for hospitals ten additional funding for states, and then continue to focus on beating this virus and getting our economy back open. >> bill: do you get the sense that some states in some cities will be reaching into washington to try and fill in exceedingly large gap in their budgets at some point? and if that's the route they choose, will washington go for it? >> i think we will have to look at what the requests are. right now, what we're talking about federal orders for closing business and some of the orders that we placed on health care systems did not do anything other than focusing on covid and acute cases, we can look at that and figure out if there's some fair argument for providing resources, but i've got to go back to what i said. we've got to $.2 trillion that

we've got to get out the door. that's what we all should be focused on right now. >> bill: last question here, do you favor reopening aspects of the economy in the tar heel state? >> i think that we are probably a week or two away from it being able to consider certain industries in certain regions of the state, and i do favorite. i think we need to get the economy going because the only way we are ultimately going to heal this country is to have a growing economy again. we have to do it safely driven by the data and make sure public safety is at the forefront, but i think we can do it and we won't do it in the coming weeks. >> bill: is that 14 days or are you counting that? >> it's going to take about two weeks. we are almost at the peak of the curve, and i think if we see this plateau and then see trending down over the next two weeks conforming with the presidential guidelines, then i think we can start having that discussion and start the restart of our economy. it's going to look a lot different. this is not like going back to

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a president trump saying yesterday he disagreed strongly with that decision. jonathan serrie picks up our coverage live today from atlanta to see what's happening there today. >> despite concerns from the trump administration, georgia governor brian kemp plans to move forward with reopening some select businesses starting tomorrow, although georgia has seen a flattening of the curve when it comes to new coronavirus cases, it has yet to meet white house guidance for states to achieve 14 days of steady declines before moving to the next phase of reopening. take a listen. >> i told the governor of georgia brian kemp that i disagree strongly with his decision to open certain facilities which are in violation of the phase one guidelines. >> shortly after the white house press briefing, governor kemp tweeted his appreciation of president trump's bold leadership but went on to say "i

am confident that business owners who decide to reopen we lived here to minimum basic operations which prioritize the health and well-being of employees and customers grid we should point out that the executive order requires these businesses that are reopening to maintain social distancing on their premises and also to employ more stringent cleaning measures. that's all spelled out in that executive order. >> bill: so georgia is not alone in trying to restart the process of reopening. what else are you picking up? >> georgia is just one of a dozen states that are planning on beginning to ease restrictions tomorrow. tennessee is going to be opening most of its eight parks for day use on friday. of wisconsin and texas will allow curbside pickup at retail stores and alaska restaurants can reopen their dining rooms with social distancing and oklahoma will allow barbershops and hair salons to resume service. starting may 1st, oklahoma will

allow movie theaters, sporting venues, and gyms to reopen. a california allowing hospitals to resume in elective surgeries and key preventive care services such as colonoscopies and on maw local school districts to resume classroom teaching at their discretion. take a listen. >> starting this sunday, the stay-at-home order will be lifted. that doesn't mean it's time for the celebratory block party or big barbecue. all throughout this first phase, we are asking montanans to avoid gathering in groups of ten or more people. >> similar to georgia, all of these other states are going to require enhanced cleaning, enhanced social distancing for these businesses that choose to reopen. in some of them as early as tomorrow. >> bill: we will see how it go step-by-step along the way. thank you. there were more calls to take on china in the pandemic so how do you hold beijing accountable?

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>> bill: former u.s. ambassador to the united nations nikki haley urging the u.s. to crack down on china and investigate the country's role in the coronavirus outbreak. she says "we have long warned about the threats chinese communist government poses. and now in a time of crisis, we are seeing just how dangerous china is. the time for warnings is over. we must act and protect american security, health, and prosperity." want to bring an director of

chinese strategy at hudson institute and author of the book "100 year marathon." nice to see you today and thank you for your time. might be easier said than done. just take the united states, for example. how with the u.s. crack down beijing? >> both congress and the white house have ideas about cracking down on beijing. i essentially wrote a book about it that goes over those options we have. one to think about using this through the eyes of china, what would they fear that most, what would they see as real punishment, what would help them for example explain what happened with the wuhan virus. that area i think where they're most concerned is economic. we still provide most of the capital investment into china. we give them a huge break on the new york stock exchange and the other two stock exchanges. we let them ignore accounting

problems. no other country in the world has allowed this. that could be taken away in one minute. in china could suffer losses as much as a trillion dollars as their companies began to slide in their stock prices. this would get their attention. another idea floating around is some sort of sanctioned fund being set up by china, obviously a pressure to compensate for dead victims of the coronavirus, they help economies, they do things through this rate if there's a third area which is trying to cut back their disinformation campaign, using the u.n. around the world to demonize us. by the way, the latest demonization campaign, "the new york times" has covered very well. is to say the u.s. is not going to recover from the coronavirus, but china is doing very well and

will soon be the leader of the world. no one knows how to counter it so there's a number of areas where we can hold china accountable. >> bill: everything you suggest there seems to need leadership out of washington and congress to go ahead and initiate anything that you're mentioning they are. we have this survey from yesterday and i want to put it back on the screen. americans view of china, 66% in the survey now have an unfavorable view of the beijing. i think in that same survey, 9 of 10 view china as a threat. that's the american people talking about that relationship. go ahead. >> i think your point about congress is really excellent. what's been happening by my count as a scholar, 71 pieces of legislation introduced in the past two years on china. like nikki haley's comment, she wants an investigation. that's happening to all 71 of

these pieces of legislation, nothing happens. they go to committee and they die. the proposals aren't getting the cosponsors. one of my favorites was marco rubio bipartisan to set up a technologies are in the white house to make sure china doesn't get any more of our technology, which we've been freely handing over to them for years. you know what happened to that bill? it went to ron johnson's homeland security committee and there was no hearing, no action. so if some of the very good ideas all dead. in each case, kevin mccarthy, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, and mitch mcconnell, the leaders don't get involved. they take no action at all, so if the core leaders of congress took an initiative, that would make a huge difference. would be also interesting to see the president. >> bill: thank you for coming in today. were going to bring you back next week, and we'll see whether or not this stone gets rolled down the hill or maybe gets

rolled up the hill. michael pills barry, thank you so much for coming here today. >> sorry to be so cynical. >> bill: that's okay. we'll find the optimism along the way. i'll make that deal with you. thank you, michael. in a moment here, fox polling on two major battleground states. how is 2020 looking today? bret baier is on deck to analyze. plus, a judge in texas facing backlash after she ordered people to wear masks in public. >> to be clear, it's not a recommendation, it's something that we have to do for the sake of our safety, of our lives, and our economy. record lows. have droo newday usa makes it so easy to refinance that one call can save you $2000 a year. newday's va streamline refi lets you refinance without having to verify your income, without getting your home appraised

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u bill: a live look now where they had a $400 billion relief package that passed earlier this week in the senate. this will replenish the small business fun and direct money for testing in hospitals. keeping an eye on that for when the voting begins in the house.

meanwhile, a new poll shows most americans are okay with the stay-at-home orders. 25% say they don't go far enough. and 61% say they are about right. 12% say they're going too far. protests against stay-at-home orders continue across the country. some people say a judge meanwhile in houston, texas, has gone too far by requiring people in harris county to wear masks to risk a $1,000 fine. the judge says we have to use "every tool to keep people safe. bringing in brett anker from washington, d.c., nice to see you. nice peer let the other night in the living room. that was some talent right the there. based on the polling, a lot of folks may not agree with what we're seeing here, but the great majority of americans appear in that polling to be content with what the government is asking them to do right now. what is your read on that? >> a couple of things. one is that's now and there is some fear out there about how long this virus is going to be

at high levels and where it is in the country. we see new york and new jersey, you take them out of the picture and you've shown this many times very well in the stats, it's a different numbers game across the u.s., but with the fatalities, with the hospitalizations, there still a lot of fear out there. however, you go with that to the unemployment at 26 million and jobs that are really hanging in the balance. i don't know if two weeks from now that polling would be the same. it's state-by-state issue. >> bill: will see what happens in georgia tomorrow, just reporting on that a few moments ago. tom tillis is suggesting earlier in this program that north carolina should go back to work in about two weeks, going to see things start to develop here in different ways and different waves, literally. what about this judge in texas? $1,000 fine, you've got to wear a mask. i think thus far, the

enforcement mechanism has not been triggered by and large. what's your view on that? >> right, it's been initiated by the residents themselves taking their own risks or not and then municipalities it with a mandate like this judge saying you have to wear the mask. i think most people are taking the advice. when you start crossing over the line to what you can't do, it becomes a different ball game and in extreme situations, it's obviously easier to do. i don't know if houston is they are. >> bill: the mayor in jacksonville, florida, last friday afternoon, i know it seems like it was a year ago, but they opened up the beaches in jacksonville, florida, and took a lot of heat for that and then when he said will have police patrol, my question to him was how are you going to enforce this? he said will give them a verbal

warning first and make sure people stay separate and apart. that was last friday and five or six or seven days later, we haven't heard a peep from jacksonville. we will check in tomorrow and see whether or not things are going okay. but it appears that it's been all right. the fox polling on 2020, michigan and pennsylvania, biden versus trump, biden has an eight-point lead in michigan. he has an eight-point lead in pennsylvania. it's april, the landscape in america has changed significantly. how do you see this pull right >> i think it's significant, it's a good thing for biden, but it's early, the campaign has not really genda up yet. we haven't even gotten to it convention. when the focus is on one versus one, obviously that's what we see every day. joe biden and donald trump for right now, the countries focused on donald trump and this coronavirus and how he is dealing with it or not dealing with it and how the economy is doing or not.

one caveat. in 2016, michigan, hillary clinton going in lead bf polls. donald trump won by three. in pennsylvania, she was going in with a lead of about three and donald trump won by .7. so even those two states at the very end last time when the other way. this is a different ball game this time around. >> bill: we will see you at 6:00. the task force permits. i think we reach that point. thank you, talk to you later. meanwhile, more than 10,000 americans who died from covid-19 were either living or working in nursing homes and long-term care facilities. that's according to our corporate because of "the wall street journal." that means 20% of covid-19 deaths in the u.s. are linked to those facilities. is a staggering number. bryan llenas reports live outside of a nursing home in brooklyn were more than 50

people have died there. what's your plan they are? >> 55 people are presumed to have died of covid-19 here at the health center in brooklyn. that is the deadliest outbreak had a nursing home in new york. ahead long-term care facilities are saying nationwide they are in desperate need of testing and personal protective equipment to protect their staff. without either, asymptomatic staff members are inadvertently spreading the virus to the most vulnerable among us. veterans, the elderly, and sick. >> we have been pleading to be a top priority for all of the things that we need to fight this, and we still aren't. we need to change this immediately. we need to change it today, and we really need the country to rally around nursing homes the same way it has around hospita hospitals. >> reportedly, they are now more than 10,000 deaths across 35 states in massachusetts, 55% of all deaths are in nursing homes.

the national guard has deployed more than a dozen states from georgia to colorado disinfecting facilities, providing ppe and mobile testing but in new york, more than 3500 nursing home residents have died. today, governor cuomo launched an investigation into nursing homes concerned they're putting profits ahead of regulation by not transferring patients that can no longer adequately care for to other facilities. >> they get paid to take care of a resident, and they have to do it in accordance with state rules, and if they don't, we will take appropriate action. >> 73-year-old jimmy dune is a resident of the long island state veterans home. his wife carol tells us she is nervous because there are now covid-19 cases on his floor. >> i guess just not knowing what is actually happening over there, yes, that's very difficult. they may not even be getting him

out of bed. he may not even be getting that kind of exercise anymore. that is upsetting. >> today, mayor bill de blasio has doubled the number of volunteers to the city's nursing homes and has increased ppe shipments by 50%. >> bill: bryan llenas on a very disturbing story here in brooklyn, new york, thank you. the country of sweden did not issue a stay at home order, now a top doctor they're predicting the capital city could reach an important milestone in just a few weeks' time. marc siegel will tell us what's that in a moment. plus, learning about the first pets in the u.s. to test positive and the risk of an animal passing the virus to you.

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>> bill: more than 26 million americans have lost their jobs in the past five weeks wiping out all the jobs gained going back to 2009. earlier today, we learned 4.4 million americans filed for unemployment just in the last week alone. meanwhile here in new york, releasing the results of a coronavirus antibody testing. the governor says 3,000 people tested at random, about 14% develop an antibody which means the virus likely infected 2.7 million people in new york, much more than the official count. how do we make sense of this? fox news medical correspondent, nice to see you, hello to you. first on the new york numbers, how do we understand how the virus has moved through our communities if 14% have the antibodies as of today? >> normally, i would say that's not proof that 14% have it, but i have to tell you this is in

keeping with the numbers out of california were to study showed that 4% of the people in santa clara county and 4% of the people in los angeles county actually had antibodies. now, that seems like a lot but they were basing it on much lower numbers. here in new york state, we have over 250,000 cases in new york city as you know was a hot spot, the epicenter of this. all of this leads to the point, there's a tremendous amount of asymptomatic spread going on. i am not disagreeing with that conclusion that we may well have over 2 million cases. it's a very infectious virus that often spreads a symptomatically. >> bill: 21% of new york city suggests 1 out of 5 who live in new york city of the virus at some point. they would have immunity now, would they not? >> we don't know what degree of immunity they would have. they would have an antibody and we would have to study that and figure out how strong and how

much of it you need to be immune. but yes, most people would have immunity and there's a good side to this story because if this many people are getting it, it means that for most people, it's a much milder virus. we are focusing on those who are hospitalized as we should, but remember, if we have vast amounts of people that are a symptomatic, it means the vast majority of people are either not getting sick or are getting a mild case. >> bill: of this goes with a comment that was given by the lead epidemiologist out of stockholm, sweden. did you see this interview? he said two days ago the country of sweden, sweden has not locked its people down and they are suggesting that herd immunity could be achieved in the city of stockholm in two weeks' time. you've looked at this and what they're suggesting is that 60% of the population in stockholm could have the immunity themselves. how do we factor that in when

they have reacted to this in a very different way from almost every other country in the world, dr.? >> i am not coming down on the side of that and i will tell you why. this is a 1950s medicine. let's give everybody measles, right? let's give everybody chicken pox before we had the vaccines, we said that. and guess what? 10% of people with measles end up in the hospital. they're 1 out of four kits of life-threatening pneumonia. we are talking about a virus which has overwhelmed our health care system. we are not at the point where we can say infect everybody in two weeks' time and then we are going to have herd immunity. herd immunity means more than 60%. 14% may seem like a lot. you wouldn't believe what it would do to our health care system to get 60% exposed to this virus. we cannot go that route. >> bill: you've been watching what sweden is doing. do you agree with the decisions the government has been making from a medical standpoint?

>> no. i think that the solution is testing. i think that rather than what we are doing right now, we have no other tool besides locking down society. we can test everybody, then we can do what you said at the beginning here. your immune, you go back to work. your immune, maybe you can go to a restaurant. let's focus on getting the testing up to the level we can see who has it, who had it, and whose over it and who can go back. that's how we loosen the restrictions. not by deliberately infecting people. >> bill: thank you for coming in today. we will see you very soon. captain new york have tested positive for the virus. these are the first confirmed cases in companion animals in the u.s. the cats are from separate parts of the state. at least one of their owners had covid-19, both pets expected to recover. according to a cdc official, there was no reason for them to panic. pets can remain in homes with people who have the virus as

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announcing first-round selections from his basement. what could possibly go wrong? boomer esiason, host of wfan sports radio show. i will give you a plug. especially so for you tonight, on radio as well. how are you doing? how do you think is going to be able to work his own computer? >> i'm doing good, bill. thanks for having me again. we are all hoping that someone screws off somewhere around the line. it would be absolutely fantast fantastic. bob quinn, the general manager of the detroit lions has his i.t. guy living in a winnebago out in his driveway. in case something does -- yeah, i'm telling you. if this is going to be the new normal, at least on normal for today. and it should be interesting. like i said, i hope there is a glitch somewhere, hopefully not too bad of a glitch. i don't want anybody to be too embarrassed. >> bill: you want to be able to say, it's not that easy.

>> that's right. i will say this, you are from cincinnati. i know that you are excited for 4 hours for now because you will get yourself a new quarterback by the name of joe perrault. i know it's going to happen. i gave him a helmet on the side of the nfl today. i said welcome to our family. the good news for him is cincinnati is not a wasteland for quarterbacks. if there been 4 quarterback set i played 93 games for that franchise. ken anderson, myself, carson palmer, and andy dalton. joe burrow from athens, ohio, this is the perfect pig for that perfect game purity will lead them out of the abyss and hopefully lead them back to the promised land. >> bill: he was listening to you, i think. "nobody is allowed to make fun of me tonight. none of the barbershops are open." [laughter] >> no one is going to make fun of you. you are going to be a very rich man. >> bill: i think joe burrow

has been living in his basement based on that. >> i would say a lot of us have lived in our basement. tonight is a welcome distraction from everything that we have all been dealing with. i do give the nfl a lot of credit for staying with this and going along with this. it's something that we all need and i think are looking forward to. >> bill: i think the ratings could be records. nothing going on. when you are drafted, university of maryland, going to cincinnati second round pick. you kind of had at tom brady chip on your shoulder when you play the nfl. that's how i saw you. >> yeah, i did, there was no question about that. draft day still is a dream come true for a lot of these players. chase young is can i go number 2 to washington. that's where it's really going to get interesting. at the end of the day, it's not really about the first contract. it's about your second and third contract. that's how you are validated in the nfl these days especially

with the amount of money that's being thrown around. >> bill: what is your sense about the season right now? they are still targeting early september. who knows if that holds? how do you keep yourself in shape? for the nfl in the middle of all the stuff? >> i think a lot of players -- they have gymnasiums in their homes. my son-in-law who plays for the new york islanders hockey team is working out every single day just waiting to get the call to go back on the ice. they have been shopping at the bit. they are bored. they want to get back to playing. when you get this september, or who knows where we will be at that time. the nfl will be a lot easier to open up eye on college football will be. if i were a college football player, i would be worried about my season coming up. >> bill: i hope you are wrong about that. it is good to see you. we will take you out on radio. thanks for coming back today. >> thin thank you. good to see you as always. >> bill: never's support. you can set your dvr.

make sure you do not. in the meantime, checking the markets right now. it looks like we are treading water. remember, the commissioner from his basement in prime time. we will see you on friday, america. we have almost made it. >> neil: that is going to be weird. anyway, you're looking alive at the house of representatives. they are taking up a separate measure to get a select committee on the coronavirus going. after that is cleared and out of the way, under that $485 billion stimulus measure that dramatically beats funding for the paycheck protection program. hospitals, health care workers. they were something to get through first. in the meantime, we are also focusing on some developments that had everything to do with the virus itself. later on in the show, some disappointment over a drug that had looked very promising. conflicting reports as to whether it mothers up. then, all the new states that are now dealing with slowly unwinding stay-at-home