>> well, tomorrow our americas together concert series continues with the live performance from rodney atkins, it's going to be great. set your dvr, never miss us. >> sandra: fox news alert now on brand-new developments in the michael flynn case. unsealed documents not revealing top fbi agents openly questioned if their goal was" to get him to lie so we can prosecute him or get him fired. that was just before eight key white house interview back in 2017. fox news is learning that more documents could be uncovered as part of the attorney general's probe into michael flynn's case. we will have much more on this and just moments. but first, to a fox news alert on what could be a game changer in the battle against covid-19 as clinical trials of the drug remdesivir show positive results on patients very ill with the

virus. good morning everyone, i'm sandra smith. >> ed: a very pleasant good morning, i'm ed henry. a study finding remdesivir could reduce the amount of time patients spend in the hospital and may even lower the death rate from covid-19. there are reports that the fda set to authorize the drug is a treatment for the virus very soon. both president trump and the nation's top infectious disease expert were optimistic. >> president trump: i want them to go as quickly as we can, there's never been anything like it. we want everything to be safe but we would like to see very quick approvals. >> the data shows that remdesivir has a clear cut positive effect in diminishing the time to recovery. whenever you have clear-cut evidence that a drug works, you have an ethical obligation to immediately let the people who are in the placebo group know so that they cannot access. >> sandra: jonathan serrie is live in atlanta outside of the cdc headquarters.

he has more on all of that. hey, jonathan. >> good morning to you, sandra. it's not a cure about a potential treatment and potentially a very promising one. remdesivir is an experimental drug that was originally developed as a potential treatment for ebola, but it's manufacture gilead sciences reports it inhibits the replication of certain coronavirus such as murderers and stars in lab cultures and now the first widescale randomized study shows that it reduce the median hospital stay and those patients from 15 days, to 11 days. it also showed a potential trend of reducing fatalities. >> it is a very important proof of concept because what it has proven is that a drug can block the virus. >> remdesivir blocks an enzyme the virus uses to replicate.

the study involved patients that were already hospitalized with serious cases of covid-19. it did not evaluate the drug's effectiveness and less serious outpatient cases, it's not a vaccine and won't prevent healthy people from becoming infected. but it is the first potential covid-19 treatment to show this much promise in a wide scale, highly respected study. federal health officials namely dr. anthony fauci who are normally somewhat reserved and cautious in these early stages of studies seem particularly excited about this one. sandra and ed, back to you. >> sandra: jonathan serrie outside of the cdc headquarters. >> ed: fox news alert come back to those newly unsealed documents in the michael flynn case revealing what could clearly be seen as entrapment by the fbi. attorney general william barr is re-examining examination into the investigation.

>> i think that this is a disgrace for government officials to abuse their power in this exact way. this is what people fear about the federal government. but the president will make any decision that he has, he will make an announcement like that but i think he feels very clearly that people around him were treated very unfairly and in this case, worse. >> ed: john roberts is live on the north along with more details. i'm >> we heard the president talk often about this since february of 2017 when flynn was fired and then he was charged with lying to the fbi but the president is very vocal about this on twitter. this morning he tweeted just a short time ago, what happened to general michael flynn, a war hero, should never be allowed to happen to the a citizen again. white house fully agreed with powell that flynn was set up and trapped by the fbi who went into the interview with him not to find facts but with an agenda. more than a month ago the

president indicated that flynn could be in for a pardon tweeting "now it's reported that after destroying his life in the life of his wonderful family, it appears the fbi working in conjunction with the justice department has lost the records of michael flynn. how convenient. i'm strongly considering a full pardon. after these latest revelations it would seem the chances of a pardon have increased substantially. we put that question to kellyanne conway this morning it has what she said. >> do you think it would be solid political grounds? >> i'm not going to talk about a pardon, that's a presidential preference. but with the president and the way he feels that michael flynn has been treated very unfairly. >> ed: keep in mind that the president fired flynn on february 13, 2017, for lying to the vice president about his meetings to the former russian ambassador.

>> two things can be true. one can be that you are upset for the lack of candor to the vice president and others of us about meeting with the russian ambassador. and at the same time being treated not just unfairly but unethically and perhaps criminally. >> the timing or decision of a pardon seems to be up in the air, however flynn's attorney is promising that what we saw yesterday released from this new investigation pales in comparison to what else is coming out. so we will wait and see what the future holds in store for that. and edit, we will hear from the president a couple of times this morning, i'm sure he will be asked about this. at 11:00 this morning he has a meeting with the governor of new jersey and then making remarks about how to protect senior citizens during the coronavirus and i'm sure he will have a lot to say. >> ed: john roberts, thank yo thank you. >> sandra: for more on all this let's bring in byron york,

the chief political correspondent from the "washington examiner" and fox news contributor. byron, let me start first by reading a headline that you highlighted in your twitter feed this morning. "the new york times" report on this, flynn lawyer see his newly released documents. >> that is a common conservative complaint against a lot of media coverage about all sorts of things, but the story is not what the fbi actually did. the story is lawyers or republicans seizing on this new news. what the news here is, is that a lot of flynn's lawyers and republicans and trump white house people, many conservatives in general have felt that michael flynn may have been set up in this whole thing. the fbi investigators went to

the white house on january 24th 2017, circumventing procedures as james comey later admitted in an effort to either catch flynn in a lie or get him fired as we see in these new documents. the fbi really thought, is our goal to get the new national security advisor fired? that's got to be deeply troubling i think for anyone who looks at the fbi in this white house. >> sandra: we will see what more we learn on all of that today, particularly from the white house and the president. as you heard kellyanne conway not wanting to say whether or not the president would move in a direction of the pardon. meanwhile, to the latest on the tara reade accusations against joe biden. he is still largely avoiding the media over these claims and here ishe is in her own words. she says "i've made a police

report for safety reasons only come i'm outside of the criminal statute of limitations. but she says by making that report it allows a mechanism for me to safety plan and work with the victim advocate. i'm willing to cooperate any law enforcement if there is any inquiry or investigation in the future. byron, i know you have been looking at this very closely, what do you see happening next with all of this? >> while the pressure is a growing and it's pretty big now on joe biden to say something about this. this accusation has been around for several weeks now. by the way, biden has been interviewed in a number of formats in that time and never been asked about it. he has never said any direct word. this campaign has denied everything. they have said this tara reade incident did not happen. but the pressure is growing for him to say something and also the pressure is growing on a number of democrats, especially women who have defended the

vice president or said they support him and there is a fight on the left about this. senator gillibrand said today or yesterday that she supports joe biden, she believes joe biden in this. and a liberal entertainer, sarah silverman, the comedian said wait a minute, he wanted al franken to resign before there was an investigation. so they are being called for their behavior in past episodes like the cavanaug cavanaugh conn and the al franken case and asked whether they are being consistent in supporting joe biden especially without even having been heard from joe biden. >> sandra: well the comparison to how that process looked and felt and the way we saw democrats respond there has been

highlighted by many. we talked about it with guy benson at this time yesterday. alyssa milano, remember she was in the hearing room during the kavanaugh hearing and she has penned an op-ed on this. she says i would advise him to face allegation head on. answer every question, and all men face these kinds of accusations whether founded or not. but your point is well made, the democrats now are either rising calls for him to speak out on this, even in "the new york times" yesterday, the tara reade assault and biden remained silent. so we will see what happens next. final thoughts. >> they also want to find out if there is any actual paper evidence perhaps to support this. there is talk now about joe biden's senatorial papers. it was a senator for 36 years

with an enormous amount of records and documents, thousands of gigabytes of information that has been given to the university of delaware. but it is close to the public until two years after joe biden leaves public life. which is not now. so there are questions, do those papers from the senatorial years have any evidence that might shed light on the tara reade situation? right now those papers remain secret and closed up and you will see more demands to look inside and see if there's anything there. >> sandra: as you also wrote about this morning we are seeing a lot of twists and turns as this continues. we will see you soon. i'm >> ed: a new york governor ripping atop republican for suggesting that bankruptcy over bailing out states hit hard by covid-19. >> so if he believed that and it

wasn't just political rhetoric and personal vitriol then pass a law that allows states to declare bankruptcy. he would have to do that. and i dare him to do that. >> ed: will he take that dare? we will give sentimental mike majority leader a chance to respond to. senator mcconnell is our exclusive guest at 9:40 a.m. eastern time. we will discuss that, plus texas getting ready to ease restrictions on some businesses today. next, we will hear from a restaurant owner down there and he says the economy should be reopened even faster. >> texans must continue safe distance end. if we do that we will be able to expand and the phase to open up our economy even more.

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>> sandra: actor harrison ford is under investigation after an incident in a small plane he was piloting last week. a spokesman telling fox news the 77-year-old actor misheard a radio instruction from air traffic control and across the runway in his plane at the same time as another plane was landing at hawthorne airport and

southern california. luckily, there were no injuries or dangers of a collision as the other plane was more than a thousand yards away. ♪ >> now it's time to set a new course, a course that responsibly opens up businesses in texas. we will open in a way that uses safe standards. safe standards for businesses and employees as well as their customers. standards based upon data and doctors. >> ed: texas governor greg abbott on monday saying he's ready to open up parts of the states economy but there's a big debate on what that should look like and how soon it should happen. joining me now is the chair and ceo of charter holdings. also a member of the presidents council and business leaders to reopen the economy. good morning. you are not just member, if any

member of this council, i've seen stories saying he's thought about you as a potential commerce secretary, and meanwhile while some people are saying go slow, you are saying something different. you are an advisor of the president saying go faster. you are seeing restaurants not at 25% capacity but you want to see them at 100% capacity? >> yes. we are talking about the health and safety of our customers. so take into that account first. but if you're going to crawl to 25% being the largest employer, we just can't go at something that's 25%. the losses will amount for the entire industry. we have to go and bring employees back on and run 100% kitchen or 100% front of house. and i applaud the governor for wanting to get the state back up but at 25% the difficulties are

immense for all of us. you are either all in or not, and i would rather not open at all then in 25% and wait until we get to 75 or 100%. >> there is a competing pressure which is to be safe obviously. i want to throw up a pole from "the washington post" on whether voters think restrictions from restaurants are appropriate. 66% say appropriate, 17% say not restrictive enough. the public doesn't seem to be on your side, you are a key member of the presidents council on reopening this. what do you say to the people that say, no, we have to go slow? >> all i'm saying is, i agree. at the and safety of everyone, customers and employees is job one, number one. but reopening from a business percentage is extremely

difficult and could be i think very counterproductive and counterintuitive to getting us back profitable. the key is employing people again, we have to make a decision. if you are a retail store, a restaurant is a very complicated operation from the kitchen sta staff, taking a 200 or, and that's what they are thinking. >> we are also on the breaking news, millions of them are unemployed in this country. i had a friend text me earlier saying there is an unemployment in this country. what's your counsel to the president in terms of how to deal with this? congress and the president have been throwing money in it. what else needs to be done in

the days ahead to help people? >> one of the biggest issues we are going to have. the vast majority of them below $100,000 per year because they are restaurant back of the house type employees. we can pay them for a while but if we start bringing them back online i'm competing with unemployment, which of the $600 a week in additional payment has been great up until this point but, it goes until july 31st. if we go to bring employees back online we are competing with someone that is paying us much more than we are paying in our industry and primarily all the retail across the board. so my advice to the president has been, run this unemployment program on a monthly basis or weekly basis, not all the way out to july 31st because it does incentivizes people for wanting to come back to work. and i don't blame them.

they are making a lot more money on the unemployment lines than they are getting back into the business. now that we are opening back up, we are out making calls trying to bring employees back and that's frankly what i'm hearing from people. >> ed: pardon me, i've got about 15 seconds. will this be a bounce back on the economy or are you worried it will drag on for a long time? >> it's going to drag on because our supply line, logistics, we can't run it 25%. that's why i'm pushing for either a total open up or just keep us where we've been. >> ed: ray washburn, we appreciate your thoughts this morning. >> sandra: in just a few hours the u.s. navy ship comfort will set sail after receiving at the peak of the outbreak in america's hardest hit city. i look at the ship's to come up next. plus the new jobs report showing more than 3.8 million people

filed for unemployment benefits last week alone. so how are markets reacting this morning? the opening bell coming up and maria bartiromo will join us for that. >> president trump: i see the light at the end of the tunnel very strongly. next year will be an incredible year for the economy and i think the fourth quarter is going to be really, really good.

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>> sandra: fox news alert now on this thursday morning, no moe than 30 million americans have filed for jobless benefits. 3.8 million in the latest week filing for unemployment claims and markets will be reopening when the opening bell rings on wall street. dow futures have been indicating a sellout. maria, good morning to you. we should point out that this has been an incredibly strong month for the u.s. stock market as there is anticipation of the country reopening. there is growing optimism that the country will eventually come back but this morning the acknowledgment that more than 30 million americans have lost their jobs over the last six weeks alone. >> that's right, sandra. and we were expecting this kind of a number. we were expecting that the unemployment benefits will continue to rise.

we have 3.8 million this week, we were expecting 3.5 million but it's lower than the four plus money from last week. still technical there, and they may be beginning to stabilize here until we get a vaccine and real optimism around the treatment, we will see the shutdown continue. they optimism that surrounds the shutdown and perhaps some revenue beginning once again with this economy. we are obviously opening lower here but there are reasons to believe that the stock market will go up over the near term. and it has everything to do with interest rates. look at where the 10-year is and we are talking about and a number of researchers are expecting rates for years. if you've got rates this low,

and that's the stock market. even though the market is down 250 points out of the gate, and that's on fire. because of all the things we are doing from home. those are vaccines out there that are also near record high. >> they are watching for them to rebound the robust economy before the pandemic hit. this is chief economic advisor larry kudlow, someone you know very well come predicting a snapback in the economy. >> i think the second half of this year is going to grow, big snapback. this will be more policy measures that will create incentives to grow in the medium and longer term. things like payroll tax holiday,

and things like middle class tax relief and small business regulatory relief. >> sandra: so maria, what are you hearing some of all of those fronts i am expecting growth at the end of the year. he joined me this morning on fox business. we are expecting growth in the third quarter. third quarter will be a contraction in second quarter will be an ugly contraction. the estimates there are on all the way up to a 35% contraction. as we see a rolling reopening of the economy, as we are stretching, businesses get back on their feet. it will receive growth and profits for the fourth quarter?

but by all accounts i'm expecting the growth story to be a 2121 affair. this was all self-imposed. this was all self-imposed. or something went bad fundamentally in our economy that was long-lasting. it will come back and i think a snapback is hard to predict. will they go back to restaurants and, will they want to stand next to each other? probably not. we will be carrying a lot of these deadlines will make it out as well. >> sandra: i heard a restaurant tour this morning on our network talking about the phases that he believes the consumer will come back. it there will be those who come right back into the restaurant and that will be phase one.

it will take some time for the next group to say, they are okay, it will be interesting to watch those phases. you are a diehard new yorker and proud of your big apple routes. i want to ask about these "wall street journal" piece from the weekend. people were leaving new york city before the coronavirus, now what? it talks about the population growth in new york city declining for three years, and then this pandemic hit. then we have this exodus from the city. people feel cooped up, they want to go to the suburbs, they want to go somewhere else. they are learning they can work from home or use technology to call in or whatever it may be, things have changed, maria. what's happening with new york city? what do you see the overall impact on, on the city? >> i think the story is spot on. people are going to have their own behavior and new york but

there are eight and a half million people in cramped areas, and people are going to probably be reluctant to go back to the way we were there. there are new ways to entice people in. i had mayor de blasio and he said we need seven and a half billion dollars right away. he said that's the we lost and we need to be made whole by the government. so expect to hear more mayors of cities going to the federal government asking for handouts because of this self-imposed. people were leaving new york not because of the pandemic. before hand if they were leaving because of taxes and because of policies and new york. at the homeless problem has gotten worse, the garbage has gotten worse, all of that was really at a point where they were flooding people out of the

city, certainly because of taxes. they were going to places like florida, leaving new york state and going to florida and texas because they wanted no income state tax and taxes kept going higher in new york. and on top of that, there are issues on the pandemic. buildings can actually comply with the guidelines that we are all practicing. >> sandra: that will be something to watch. maria bartiromo, thank you, always good to see you. >> thank you, sandra. >> sandra: are you a small business owner or employee and want to ask president trump a question about how the country will get back to work? if you do, send us a video of your question to town hall at foxnews.com or, log onto the fox news facebook or instagram pages. bret baier and martha maccallum will be

anchoring america together -- returning to work, a town hall with president trump live this sunday at 7:00 p.m. eastern. we want your question so send them in. and you might just get an answer from the president himself. >> ed: looking forward to that. newly raised documents revealing top fbi agents may have tried to entrap general michael flynn. what will it mean as his case, is a part in coming? plus mitch mcconnell signaling release in the bill after some bipartisan backlash. we will hear from the top republican himself, that's next. >> we need help with the here and now, educators, police, fire and ems, we are bleeding resources and helping people whether they have lost their jobs or whether they are sick, small businesses et cetera. that's where we need a big dose of federal cash. newday's va streamline refi is the quickest and easiest refi

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of the links they were willing to go to to disregard all prior protocols and all prior rules, the standard practice in other cases, none of that applies to general flynn. >> ed: that is general michael flynn's attorney sounding off about tactics in the 2017 interview. new documents that appear to show efforts to entrap flynn when agents questioned him. he joins us by phone. they read about entrapment, how did this happen in america? >> i want to congratulate fox and the outstanding work in developing the story. it has been interesting to watch enough all of this proves to be true, you will have certainly

major, major error on the part of top leadership of the fbi. which could well warrant additional charges against him. if true, this is very, very troubling. and disturbing. >> ed: let's be specific. do you think there should be charges against james comey and do you think that general flynn should be pardoned by the president? >> those are decisions to be made by others but revealing the story has been extremely important for the country and i want to congratulate those at fox who have been involved in developing this ongoing story. if it's true, it has been extremely troubling and action under our system wouldn't be taken by others in the issues that you just raised.

>> sandra: just to follow up on that, would you support the president's decision if he goes the route of parting him? >> if those decisions are made. if the president decides there is a pardon to be issued, that would be the appropriate time to respond. i will look at the facts presumably and decide what's appropriate for the country. >> sandra: i want to move on now to some big decisions that you want to make and some criticism that you have received for suggesting that amid the pandemic, some states should have to file bankruptcy rather than receiving federal aid to. you seem to be responding to some of that criticism and reversing course on that suggestion. where do you stand on that? >> what i said is we've already provided $150 billion in the

previous bills in the last month or six weeks in the state and local government. bankruptcy was a decision, if it were legal would be made at the state level. i don't think many states would choose that option. the point is we are not interested in borrowing money in future generations to send it down to states with bad decisions i've made in the past. unrelated to the coronavirus epidemic. we are more than happy, and already have sent 150 billion down to states and localities to deal with the pandemic and i think any additional assistance that we provide for state and local government also needs to include some things that are important for everyone else. that is the doctors and nurses, the hospitals, the brave businesses that will be reopening that will be brought by the plaintiff all over

america in the wake of this pandemic. we don't need an epidemic of lawsuits in the wake of the pandemic. so if we do another rescue package, and we may, we need to chectake our time and do it rigt and it needs to include these liability protection so that all these brave workers and brave businesses that will be reopening are not subjected to the second epidemic. >> ed: is served with him in the senate. those are housed at the university of delaware, and those friends on the board at the university are refusing to release records from his senate days, decades in the senate, as you know. those records could shed light on the sexual assault allegations by tara reade. they are releasing those records

once and for all. >> when you run in the united states your life is an open book. i can't imagine that vice president biden will have to participate and release information related to the allegations. it's a very challenging thing to run for president and i think everyone who has done that has realized that the their entire life has been opened up to scrutiny. that has happened to vice president biden and they shouldn't be surprised. >> sandra: leader mcconnell it is back to work for the senate next week. some of your colleagues are questioning that decision and dianne feinstein is asking you to reconsider plans to reconvene. she said it sends a bad example and there are so many that are still under those stay at. lisa murkowski as of yesterday is questioning that decision as

well. did you consult with the attending physician on reopening the senate and was at different guidance than the house? >> we can modify our routines in ways that are smart and safe but we can honor our constitutional duty to the american people and conduct our business in person. if it's essential for doctors, nurses, health care workers, truck drivers and grocery store workers and many other brave americans, then it is essential for senators to carefully man hours and support them. we are going to focus on the job we need to do for the american people and i think we can conduct our business safely. as i said we have a whole lot of other people showing up for work during the pandemic and it's time for the senate to do that as well. we have many confirmations for example, those have been bothered by the democrats even

before the pandemic so we have much work to do with the american people and we think we can do it safely. >> sandra: senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, we appreciate you coming on "america's newsroom" this morning. >> ed: just one month after its arrival the navy ship comfort will leave its harbor today. and more protests in michigan as the governor cites protests in the states battle against covid-19. >> the people of michigan have stepped up and we have started to flatten the curve. most people have played their part and we are grateful. every day, we're providing trusted information from top health experts...sharing tools to help protect families from fraud... and creating resources to support family caregivers everywhere.

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arriving, the u.s. and s comfort will leave the harbor in just one hour. treated just under 200 patients during its mission to help fight the coronavirus. hey alex, good morning. >> good morning sandra. the ship will leave. 90 here one month after it arrives in manhattan. and we see the number of cases drop which is something the government leaders say as a sign of relief moving forward. but it's a sign of hope and to relieve the already overlooked to overworked hospital, noncovert patients are quickly shifting gears to accommodate the number of people who contracted the virus. the 890-foot long floating military hospital holds 1,000 beds. the rest of the ship was sectioned off of the doors and ladder to care for all patients.

it shifted again to treat patients of covid-19. the ship discharged its last person on sunday. governor cuomo said the comfort never reach the numbers anticipated which was positive. today to think the brave medical workers on board the police and fire department will pay them tribute as the ship anchors up and moves on. this is not the first time they've sent the comfort to manhattan, it was here during the 1918 influenza pandemic and the current comfort was here after the 9/11 attacks. and it's three football fields they will move on for future possible covid-19 missions.

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>> sandra: fox news alert, stunning new evidence raising serious questions about the fbi's investigation of general michael flynn. newly unsealed documents revealing possible misconduct by top officials targeting president trump's national security advisor during the early days of the russian investigation. welcome to a brand-new hour of america's newsroom thursday morning. i'm sandra smith. >> ed: it great to see you sandra, i'm ed henry. handwritten notes casting suspicion on the fbi's mom motivation for even interviewing general flynn just days after president trump took office. flynn's lawyer calling it a politically motivated perjury trap saying it looks like the

government was trying to set him up. there is devastating evidene of the links they were willing to go to to regarding all prior protocols and prior rules. their standard practice in other cases to warn of a violation, and none of that applied to general flynn. they had only special violations of every protocol known for him because they were determined to take him out. >> ed: of the majority leader demanding answers on this program just a couple of minutes ago. good morning david. >> good morning to you. this document is only four pages long unsealed last night and it packs quite a punch. it talks about top fbi officials asking flynn and seeing if they want to make him lie so he can get fired or get prosecuted. this just happened as you mentioned four days, and he was

pled guilty to lying to the fbi but has since has withdrawn that ply. and what's our goal, truth, admission or to get him to lie in the white house will be furious. to protect our institution by not playing games. >> it's a classic case of the fbi setting out to entrap someone whether they like him or not, whether they think he's guilty or not, that's not the goal. the goal must be justice. >> flynn was one of the first to come out and support then candidate donald trump in 2016. will he be rewarded with a

pardon during the election year? president trump not saying that specifically but he's been tweeting that pretty often, most recently tweeting what happened to michael flynn, a war hero, should not be allowed to happen to us that son of the united states again. there is exculpatory evidence to clear flynn and she still wants to get her hands on that. this is by attorney general bill barr. right now that the federal bureau of investigation has no comment on the matter. >> let's bring in andy mccarthy, a former assistant u.s. attorney at fox news contributor. great to have you on the program. what does all of this mean for michael flynn's case? good morning. >> i think to play this out, or

what's going on right now is kind of a twofold application by sidney powell on behalf of fly flynn. one is, he wants his plea back and he wants to vacate the guilty plea he entered back in 2017. the other is she' is asking fore extraordinary remedy of getting the case thrown out. the legal remedy here is to basically give him his plea back so you start from square one. i think in the long run that may end up serving him well because the more we see in these damaging allegations the more pressing becomes a question that a judge would ask the justice department and the fbi which is would you dare come into federal court and try this case. i think the answers to that is probably no because there's a lot that went on here that would give him a pretty bad blackeye. >> sandra: kellyanne conway from the white house reacted to

all of this this morning on our network. here she is. >> the president has made clear for all three years at michael flynn, and i just said that the man had a three decade plus career in the united states military and he came here ready to serve his country, was gone within days and now we see it was within the previous administrations. what do you see the president doing next and how will this be handled? >> i think they are right about that in the sense that there was no legal basis, no factual basis to conduct a criminal investigation of flynn, and obviously if that's what they were doing a good faith they wouldn't have gone about it the

way that they did. they would have gone for protocol to set up the interview which they obviously on their own tried to get around. that is the fbi. they would have played the conversation for him and asked him to interpret it if that's what they needed and that's what they wanted to do to search for the truth. instead they are trying to trick him into saying something inaccurate so they have a basis to try to prosecute him or fire him. the president will probably say his hand for now because of the case gets thrown out in district court, there's nothing more for him to do and flynn has been vindicated. >> sandra: got it. jim jordan was also on fox news this morning and as you can imagine was very fired up about all this. here's what he said about the guy in charge, james comey, at the time. >> he was the guy in charge and all this happened under his watch. all these key people, the upper echelon of the fbi come up this

all happened under jim comey's watch. he's a guy responsible. the americans are learning now that everything we said now, it was worse than we thought. americans are fed up with this and what you want it cleaned up. >> final thoughts from you as we await to learn more about what happened next with all this? >> i think jim jordan is correct to this extent. what we are seeing now is a paper trail that has been unavailable to us for the last three years, is catching up to what many of us thought all along happened here which was that this was a perjury trap. >> sandra: very interesting to get your analysis and reaction. thank you. >> ed: a fox news alert, on your money. the federal reserve vowing even more stimulus to try to get the economy up and running again. what else should it be doing? we have an exclusive gas from

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♪ >> ed: shifting gears now to the show down over the economy, they will gather yet again at the michigan state capitol today after a court rules of the stay-at-home order does not violate residents constitutional rights. meanwhile governor whitmer saying the restrictions are working and will be eased only when the time is right. >> the people of michigan have stepped up and have started to flatten this curve. most people have played their part and we are grateful. we are now in a place where we can think about what the coming days look like and safely reengaged. >> mike tobin has been following the story for us and he has the details. good morning, mike. >> gretchen whitmer wins one battle in court and faces another in lansing.

now witmer was the first of governors to face a large about her stay-at-home order. demonstrations were organized by the michigan conservative coalition and they argued essentially that the stay-at-home order was to arbitrary com, they thought it s too heavy-handed and didn't handled the state from a regional aspect. but that michigan court claims that they still sided with governor whitmer with a decision that read in part, they have the broad power to act for the public health of the entire state when faced with a crisis. >> i don't know of any other legislature in the country that is deciding to declare the pandemic that killed 106 michigan reads yesterday, it's not over. we remain in the state of

emergency until the order is rescinded. speak of the state of emergency is separate from the stay-at-home order. the state of emergency expires today and needs approval to move forward. make sure he has offered to one-week extensions of the emergency declaration in exchange for negotiation power with the stay-at-home order. the they argue that it relates to the case and they want to establish a state panel. >> ed: mike tobin, thank you. >> this is a tough one in the contraction will go on for a b bit. but i like what i hear around the table. we will see a growing and recovering economy by summertime and the back end will extend into 2021. that's what i think is going to

happen. >> sandra: top economic advisor larry kudlow sing more pain in the future but optimistic and potential rebound may not be far away. this is coming as we learn more than 3.8 million americans filed for unemployment claims last week alone bringing the total number of layoffs in the last six weeks to 30 million. joining us now is white house economic advisor kevin hassett. welcome back to the program, always good to have you. so first off, we can look at the recovery in a second. but as far as the economic damage that we have seen to this country, is the worst behind us? >> i think what's going to have been least because the data came out in the rearview mirror, we will be looking at more bad news before things start to turn. you mention the initial claims data that came out today, it accumulated to 30 million unemployed folks. what will happen is that data

will get turned into the jobs report and that jobs report will show an unemployment rate that will be something like 19%. that will be the biggest unemployment rate we have had since the second world war. so because we have turned the economy off, there will be this second quarter especially where we see unprecedented negative news. and that will be that we passed 2.6 trillion in stimulus which is meant to build to that. that gives us really, really crazy numbers and then we could turn it right back on. the ppp numbers are still at the firm's, and as long as the virus is under control soon i think pretty quickly will see that the worst will be behind us. the data, like looking in the rearview mirror, will get worse

before it gets better. >> as far as the relief packages that are out there there's about to be a fierce debate in washington over the need for more stimulus. you look and dig through these numbers every single day. do we need a fourth stimulus package for the american people? >> i think that right now what's going on in the white house and up on capitol hill, people are taking a pause and watching the existing programs and say the burn rate for the ppp and the small business loans and so on and deciding whether we will need another round of that or whether we can move on to sort of thinking that we were on the other shore, and we can refocus on growth and a strong economy we had last day. we are watching just like we do with the health data, there are states all around the country that are starting to turn on the lights. so how quickly are we able to get back up to speed and so on?

it's probably very soon and very shortly, we will have an idea of whether we need to extend the current existing things or move on to new ideas. finally, i would have to say that one of the things that is striking like you said, you've noticed that equity markets have done a nice job, and one reason why that's enough to get us over the hump. the u.s. is likely to grow sharply. that's a very optimistic outlook and i hope it's true. but if it does come true that will happen because of all of the sound policies, and on a bipartisan basis. >> she wants $500 with more money. as you noted, maybe ppp will need more money with small business loans soon and that

will be running dry. at what point -- i know we've all talked to both parties but this is a wartime footing and wartime spending. at what point do you as an economist worry about red ink and debt? >> i already worry about red ink and a debt but in a stormy sea, and we are building a bridge to the other shore and we've got to get there. a lot of it has to be determined by the virus. i think that one of the things i find most interesting about this episode, as hateful and mean as politics has been in washington, it took president obama about two months to get his seamless bill passed in the great recession even though we had a super majority in the senate and control the house, and the fact is because of the patriotism, we

have been able to produce legislation to keep us afloat. in the end, it will be determined by the fact that if the states would open up, if they really do sort of get back to normal relatively quickly which appears to be about what the cpl is expecting then there might not be much need for another bill. >> and the president is making the case of the american people. i look into the future and give us an idea to get beyond washington spending. what two or three steps do you think this president will take to rebuild that economy in the fall and beyond? >> before i jump to the new steps, one thing to think about is, and the economy is so strong in january, the balance sheet

for firms and the health of america's banks and the health of our citizens. this disruption which is the biggest disruption could potentially be lived through some fiscal policy. the really strong economy. the way to get even stronger is when we returned to the principles which made the economy strong which was low taxes and deregulation. the president is talking a lot about a big infrastructure bill. and thinking about or a little bit more of what we've been doing. we do have to work under a

premise for at least an understanding of the general direction. of the month of april, at the latest and the dow is up 12% that's rebounding from our horrific march. i know you are talking more like a u-shaped recon ohmic recovery the president seems to be talking a snapback which would be more of a v-shaped recovery. do you believe the stock market is getting this right? the guy can say i am a warrior y wart. the equity markets and the cbo all agree that we have a strong second half of the year. and i think this is a president who wants to have a plan for

every eventuality. in the end we are in a war against the virus and we have a very tough hill to take. and we have a leader who will help do this well. the way we do that if it's with a plan and with data and that is what we are using. >> sandra: kevin hassett joining us from the white house this morning and we hope to get up with you soon. thanks for your time. are you a small business owner or employee and want to ask the president a question about how the country will get back to work? send us a video of your question at town hall at foxnews.com. again, a town hall at foxnews.com or log onto the fox news facebook or instagram pages. bret baier and martha maccallum will anchor america together-returning to work. at town hall with president trump live this sunday at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. send us your question and you might get an answer from president trump himself. we look forward to that and look forward to your questions.

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>> very much looking forward to sitting with him to talk about furthering the testing partnership that we have been endeavoring to get to and that holds a lot of promise. thirdly, we are going to have to talk about financial assistance not for as some say the legacy issues, that has nothing to do with it. this is to allow us to get the front-line workers, educators, firefighters, police and ems in their seats and in their jobs. >> sandra: fox news alert, he

is expected to meet with him around 11:00 a.m. eastern time which is about half hour from now. governor murphy says they will be discussing covid-19 testing and we are expecting a playback of that and will bring that to you as soon as we get it. >> president trump: tony said it today and i thought it was very well expressed, that was a building block, i guess 31% so it was very good. i want them to go as quickly as they can. >> ed: president trump weighing in on a possible treatment for covid-19. the food and drug administration will authorize use of remdesivir. dr. fauci says that antiviral medication can significantly reduce the recovery time. joining us now is the clinical professor of infectious diseases and coprincipal investigator of the stanford side of the remdesivir clinical trial sponsored by gilead sciences. i hope i got all of that right.

good morning. we obviously heard so much about hydroxychloroquine and another possible treatment, and dr. fauci rightly said we have to be careful and go through the trials. now why might this be different? what specifically about this drug should we be paying attention to? >> this is a direct acting antiviral and has been shown to have big promise in the lab and animal models. and for the first time now inhuman critica clinical trials. it's been safe and tolerable, we had good clinical outcome and yesterday we found that compared to placebo, that is people who are given no medication, people do much better. they have a 31% faster recovery time. and they can leave the hospital faster which is a very good thing.

>> ed: and to your point my understanding is in a federal trial, the time with recovery with this drug managed 11 days. it would be about 15 days and the death rate might also be better if people are recovering. here's how it dr. fauci said it and i will give you a chance to respond. >> although the results were clearly positive from a statistically significant standpoint, they were modest. the improvement was 31% better chance of recovering and getting out of the hospital. that's important, but it's the first step in what we project will be better and better drugs coming along. >> ed: again, we want to be careful about the significance of all of that. dr. fauci use the word modest, what does that mean? how significant are we seeing progress here? >> any step forward in this pandemic is a significant step.

so this is the first drug in our toolkit and the fact that we are seeing this in a very optimistic thing. i think we have the right to be very happy about it but he's right. there's a lot more work to be done in terms of exactly who should get this drug, what is the best timing, who is at highest risk for complications. who should really be targeted, is the idea. and what can we add to this or improve upon this to make outcomes even better? 7-10% mortality rate is still high. we don't want people dying from this disease. >> ed: and we have viewers watching this now, they have family members struggling with this and they want to find out how quickly they can come together. the fda could move forward on the emergency basis but what is

the timetable? are we talking weeks or months or what is next? >> this is new for all of us, things are moving so fast for covid-19 but i'm sure it will be much faster for our process. we are also waiting for other monoclonal add antibodies and vaccine testing at all of that so i think we will have a lot more good things to come in this area. >> ed: a good things to come. we want to have the good news as well as all the challenges this nation is facing. there is the second important track as well of the administration and a scientist working very quickly on a vaccine. we are stand? >> many different vaccines are being tested but as we've always said to come vaccines take a long time for really important testing and safety, tolerability, all of that is very important with vaccine wo work. >> ed: doctor, we certainly

appreciate your insight. it sounds like a promising development. dr. fauci and others have suggested that a lot more work be done. thanks for coming in. ♪ >> what we are watching now is how fast is the decline and how low does it go? we don't want to see 1,000 new cases every day. we would like to see that in the low hundreds ideally of new cases every day. >> sandra: that was new york governor andrew cuomo saying that the number of covid-19 deaths per day is down in his state but he adds the total is still disgustingly high. now thousands of health care workers and first responders are getting antibody tests. david lee miller is covering up for us live from new york city this morning. hey, david lee.

>> as you pointed out the number of daily statewide deaths from the virus continues to drop. nevertheless in the previous 24-hour period, 330 new yorkers lost their life to the virus. a reminder of the impact of the virus outside of a brooklyn funeral home, dozens of bodies were found in unrefrigerated trucks. neighbors say the order caused them to call police. in the words of one man, you don't respect the dead that way, that could have been my father, my brother. preliminary antibody testing shows that 17% of new york city emts and firefighters test positive for virus antibodies indicating that they recovered from the disease. just over 10% of the nypd tested positive and many of the city's homeless are living in the subway. some cars are so filled with garbage and debris that they resemble a petri dish on wheels. new regulations restricting time that can be sent to the station, or an out of service crane takes

aim at the problem, governor andrew cuomo has ordered officials to come up with a plan to clean up the subway on a daily basis. >> any essential worker who shows up and gets on a train should know that that train was disinfected the night before. we want them to show up. we don't want them to stay home. we owe it to them. >> on an average, 380,000 people visit times square daily, the crossroads of the world. new satellite images show how the virus has changed new york city. some places are deserted, places like columbus circle as well as the trade center. governor cuomo has indicated that parts of the state could reopen by the middle of next month, but as for new york city it has suggested it has a long way to go.

>> in the meantime joe biden facing criticism against his sexual assault violation. suggesting fbi agents try to entrap him. does it show the origins of the russian probe for impeachment? >> the president has made clear for all three years that michael flynn was treated very unfairly and now, we know it was probably criminal what was done to him. ti they've ever offered. you can lower your payments by this time next month without having to verify your income, without getting your home appraised, and there's no money out of pocket.

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>> sandra: that was house speaker, they accused him of sexual assault back into the 1990s. the biden campaign has denied. good morning, and great to have you on the program. so what do you think we will eventually hear from him personally on this issue? >> i want to say more and more democrats, and release the documents the sooner you can get it over the better off you are.

the longer you take, the worse off you are because than the story becomes about you rather than about the original problem. so i say from my perspective the sooner biden can release the documents from the university of delaware and you have one statement, then they either become really serious or they go away. but the longer he waits the more the active waiting will become the issue. >> interesting. kirsten gillibrand is defending joe biden and that was in the midst of a lot of comparisons handling the kavanaugh allegations and what we heard through that process. here is senator gillibrand saying she has come forward and spoken and they have done an investigation in several outlets. those investigations vice president biden has called for himself and vice president

biden has vehemently denied these allegations and i support vice president biden. flash back to september 26, 2018 when she said this on the kavanaugh allocation. >> she's risked everything. her own safety. to come out on the record to save brett kavanaugh sexually assaulted her. she told her therapist and her husband about it. >> sandra: and so about that? there's a double standard there. >> its politics. the left hated cavanaugh a company hated the idea of president trump having another's conservative supreme court justice and anything they could do to stop him was okay. on the other hand they are now stuck with joe biden and i don't think anyone seriously believes he's going to get off the

ticket. but the challenge is a significant number of democrats and elected officials are going to begin to come out and say, this needs to be cleared up. vice president biden would be much better off to make a statement and release the documents from the university of delaware, where his papers are. then, it's over. they open up that archive then there is nothing there that deeply weakens her case because she claims complaints and that they should all be in the record. so he has an easy way to end this and if he doesn't and it, the news will just keep growing. it's now in "the new york times" and in "the washington post." so on the liberal media they begin to feel that they have to deal with it. >> sandra: fair to say that there is growing pressure for sure. these are newly fielded

documents and the reaction to that, senator mcconnell is here with his reaction this morning. >> and if all of this proves to be true they will certainly have a major, major error, that's the top leadership on the fbi. i mean, this is -- if true it's very, very troubling and disturbing. >> sandra: the president has been tweeting about this this morning, and i want to get you thought, your thoughts before we let you go. >> president trump should pardon general flynn, general flynn served in the uniform for 35 years, and that senior fbi agent

set out to destroy them. that's an amazing level of pain for serving our country. and then i hope attorney general barr is going to look deeply at whether or not there should be criminal charges against some people that's that police in one of those occasions. >> sandra: certainly it does reveal those documents, the details debate that was happening between those officials. always great to have you and thank you so much for being here this morning. >> ed: all right, to towers honoring the first active duty service member to die from covid-19. how the foundation and ceo is

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>> ed: you've heard of the tunnel to towers program, they do great work. he was the first active duty service member to die from covid-19. he was infected with the virus when an outbreak spread on board the uss theodore roosevelt. joining us now is frank fuller, chair and ceo of the tunnel to towers foundation. you've always done great work. this charity was born out of 9/11 and the tragedy there, losing your own brother of brave firefighter on 9/11. talk about this other brave american that we have lost and so many others that we have lost that you are trying to help? >> so 18 years ago or almost 19

we did lose my brother on 9/11. we've been doing work for first responders and service numbers ever since. when we heard about the sailor that gave up his life, protecting our country, he leaves behind a wife who also serves, her name is samantha. and he had two children, a small boy and a young daughter. we've been helping building the gold star family homes and paying off the mortgages for years, and, they donate $11 per month, and they helped the front line, and they took their mortgages over for a minimum of

12 months and we make the mortgage payments because it will alleviate terminus pressure off of the family during this terrible time. >> that's a tremendous burden that you can look for these families. these health care workers are obviously the new frontline troops. and i have nephews and nieces, sister in laws that are nurses, my daughter-in-law is a level three, my grandchildren are nurses so we know all about the frontline. the ppe equipments for these hospitals and stuff, so we do it because of the goodness of america. i'd like to give a special

thank you to conor mcgregor and the whiskey company that donated. so check it out. they help these brave warriors. >> i would raise money, i would do it. >> we would like to see you get beaten up for charity. [laughs] >> sandra: next hour, president trump is set to meet with new jersey governor phil murphy at the white house to discuss current of our assessing. we that for you in just a moment. stay tuned.

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several members of the university board have personal and financial ties to the universal vice president. he is what nancy pelosi said just this morning. >> we bring forth an allegation and i'm a big strong supporter of the "me, too" movement. i do support joe biden and i'm satisfied with how he has responded. i was proud to endorse him on monday. it's a matter he has to deal with but i'm impressed with the people who work for him at the time saying that absolutely they have never heard one iota of information about this. >> sandra: peter doocy has more from arlington, virginia. >> good morning. joe biden himself and at last

night a virtual fund-raiser, a digital donor asked him about addressing sexual assaults in the military and here is what biden said about this. he said it goes against everything the military itself stands for. the allegations against biden still have not been proven and they are not being investigated by any law enforcement agencies because tara reade filed a police report three weeks ago but as of last night that case is inactive. that's something that read it tells fox she knew was going to happen. i'm outside the criminal statutes of limitations, and work with the victim advocate. i am willing to cooperate with any law enforcement if there is any inquiry or investigation in the future. mainstream pressure on biden's

building. "the washington post" editorial board is urging him to allow field senate records to be released to clear up what exactly reid complained about in 1993 and "the new york times" is now telling the biden campaign they are wrong. "the new york times" cleared biden of wrongdoing. they found that tara reade's investigation did not happen. our allegation made no conclusion either way. today the instagram to q&a with megan a soccer star megan ruffino. so the hopes of getting him on camera today rests with the world cup soccer player. sandra? >> sandra: interesting tidbit there. peter doocy, we appreciate it.

my next guest says witnesses are forcing the media and democrats to finally address the issue. here to talk about it, howie kurtz. first of all, i thought "the new york times" had done an exhaustive search into all of this. >> the dam has finally and belatedly burst. that was a "washington post" before publishing anything on these allegations and then there were crickets by cnn and many other allies. that was one of the major news organizations in your country securing an interview in which your former neighbor graphically describes what tara reade says happens in the alleged attack with joe biden which of course he denies back in the mid-1990s. that i think has virtually forced to many news outlets to deal with the political implications here, even if it's a hillary clinton endorsement now and you have to kind of mention it. >> ed: quickly in her piece

today, foxnews.com, some biden supporters a inevitably say there are more allegations than this single accusation against biden. he is a man of higher character which is hard to sustain if her account is taken seriously. >> that's why this is -- every time a woman who is a potential running mate is running, and finally your presidential campaign has to .21 of the nation's top news centers. those were favorable and also unfavorable to tara reade and that's not a good situation to be in. >> let's get to michael flynn as i mentioned. this handwritten note, bombshell overnight. an fbi official, you can see it sort of grainy there. what is our goal? truth,/of mission we can get him

to live. this is not just a criminal justice issue, so many people in the media for months and months scoffed that there was some sort of issue here. >> prosecutors talking among themselves about whether, we will get them to lie or we won't tell them. while in fairness it could be described as an internal debate and it's not unheard of to tell a witness that they have everything at the outset. retired general went into the court and pled guilty and said i made a false statement. i understand the outrage and i understand where president trump is expressing outrage on twitter. there is more than one side of this but it is another black eye i think for the fbi. and of course his lawyers are trying to paint this as a rogue agents for their client.

>> to be fair, how they get him to live. you can expect the fbi could be nonpartisan, just stick to the facts. they say it's possible to get him to live. thoughts on that? >> you would expect the goal of federal prosecutors especially insults, such a sensitive case, the goal to be to get to the truth. the fbi knew about the conversations that flynn had with the russian ambassador. so there is no way to make the smell good, it stinks. >> it sinks indeed. that will be our final word. that's a legal term or political term, who knows. i bet you will cover it all at 7:00 a.m. eastern. holly, thank you. music and physical >> sandra:

there are growing economic concerns meanwhile due to the coronavirus pandemic with new numbers showing nearly 4 million laid-off workers filed for unemployment benefits last week. that means 30 million in the last six weeks. there are warnings that could actually make things worse. senator ben sasse explains that in this way. he says "it's hard for small businesses to serve their communities on the washington pits them against the system that pays more for unemployment than work. joining us now is dan arnold. can you weigh in on that question like we are waiting to hear from some republican members of congress concerned about the amount of money that is going to be unemployed and what that does for incentive to come back to work. >> it's beginning to turn out that the unemployment insurance bonus of $600 that was written

into the stimulus package may be the single worst impact of the effort to revive the economy because it creates such an enormous disincentive. again, it's a $600 bonus on top of whatever individuals might be receiving at the state level. the top unemployment insurance payment in new york state is about $550. i believe it's upwards of $800 in massachusetts. so if you add the $600 you are putting the weekly payment well over a thousand dollars. several times the minimum wage. the difference here is, minimum wage is something that people get paid to work. this is something that people are being paid not to work. many employers especially restaurants are saying it is becoming extremely difficult to get people to come back to work for them because they are -- their total unemployment benefit with this bonus which runs until

july 31st is making it very difficult to rehire workers. >> sandra: it's no wonder that it's an incredibly difficult and challenging time for the american people. we've been trying to get them the help that they need but this will be a very delicate balance for congress on getting people back to work. he is the estimated unemployment rate that we are looking for and, that's the average from facts set. we just spoke to kevin hassett, economic advisor, and that will need to be all encompassing of the entire hit that we have taken as far as the u.s. econo economy. and, the depression era levels

of unemployment. after that impression people will be going back to jobs and they wanted to work. and that's a huge wedge between employers and employees. that will become a political issue as well. most americans really do want to work. they want to go to a job every day. if it turns out that a lot of people are staying home rather than working and i think a lot of other workers out there will feel a significant amount of resentment about that. that's about the last thing we need in the middle of trying to come out of this virus. we are trying to pull on all the orders.

>> nancy pelosi suggested a guaranteed minimum income for people and suggesting for other ways to get money into people's pockets. and on top of the entitlements that exist, the democrats are now acting as though there is no limit to the amount of spending they can do and their desire to bail out state pensions and budgets. at some point out there in the future to pay off the mic pay for all that asked him like this, they have to be tax increases. they start by raising corporate tax and no tax rates on the upper brackets but eventually it will get down to the payroll taxes and sales taxes and that will suppress economic activity and raise the unemployment rate permanently.

that's the last thing this economy needs coming out of this crisis. >> sandra: we are all hopeful for an economic rebound. dan henning sure from "the wall street journal." thank you. as we have been asking all morning, if you are a small business owner or employee and want to ask the president himself, president trump a question about how they will get back to work, send us a video at foxnews.com and we will be anchoring america together returning to work. a town hall with president trump and you just might get an answer from the president himself. >> ed: looking forward to that. a potential treatment for coronavirus, dr. anthony fauci's showing the drug show some promise. he hopes he will be available to

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>> ed: human clinical trials showing positive results that could be approved soon to treat the coronavirus. white house task force member anthony fauci touting this new evidence on remdesivir. >> the data shows that remdesivir has a clear-cut significant positive effect in diminishing the time to recovery. the reason why we are making the announcement now is something that i don't believe people fully appreciate. whenever you have clear-cut evidence that a drug works, you have an ethical obligation to immediately let the people who are in the placebo group know so that they can have access. >> ed: it joining us now is dr. george diaz. thanks for coming on. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> ed: what is the significance of all this? >> it's -- what we are learning

is that the drug did have a beneficial effect in terms of reducing the time to improvement based on the data that was provided by the nih. this means that -- >> ed: i think your speaker might be on doctor, so if you turn that off you might be able to hear better. >> is that better? >> ed: okay. in the meantime, let me quickly play a clip from dr. fauci who was on "the today show" and he was talking about the fda possibly granting emergency use to speed all of this out and we will get you on the other side. >> the commissioner of the fda yesterday evening, and he's moving along very quickly. they have not made a final decision yet, they have not announced it but i would project that we will be seeing that reasonably soon. >> ed: so let's start there. and we will circle back.

what are they saying about that? unfortunately, we lost the doctor but this is something we are following closely. this is something we've heard about with potential treatments for a long time, therapies and therapeutics in the short term but the separate track is still ongoing in terms of a vaccine. we will try to get the doctor back in the meantime. sandra? >> sandra: we will indeed. meanwhile the white house is trying to fast-track development of a vaccine to prevent coronavirus organizing a program dubbed operation warp speed. chris jenkins is live in washington, d.c. even the name sounds promising. good morning. >> it does. i'm not sure you can move quite that fast, because we are talking about a vaccine. this takes much longer. dr. fauci has led from the

beginning this takes at least 12-18 months. the timeline has been a sticking point with the president, and that's the operation that is involved. that's a historic pace and it's no secret she now expects that of element of a safe and effective vaccine for people. in fact, hhs is biomedical advanced research and development authority has spent more than a billion dollars issuing grants to multiple u.s. companies to speed vaccine development. dr. fauci was asked about operation warp speed and here is what he had to say. >> we are in the early phases of

a trial, phase one. when you go into the next phase, we will safely and carefully but as quickly as we possibly can try to get an answer as to whether it works and is safe. and if so, we will start ramping up production with the companies involved. we want to go quickly but we want to make sure it's safe and effective. i think that is doable. if things fall into the right place. >> it would be a big deal comes now the question we want to know is when. the companies we reach out to on this did not respond on the fda this morning said they are not counting on it and also were not sure of the timeline. >> sandra: thank you. >> ed: fox news alert, an eye on the white house. president trump holding a meeting right now with new jersey governor phil murphy discussing how to get that state back up and running. we will bring you more a sense of details. the plan changed, we could end

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>> ed: and impending change to military retirement plans could end up funneling money to china. the move could invest more than $50 billion to beijing's, about the loophole. the big picture, america needs a real wake-up call and hope we have it in the wake of this virus, in terms of our relationship with china. the chinese communist party, not talking about the chinese people but the communist party is not our friend. they seek to dominate the united states in a new world order with us subservient to them and that is in the world of words of their leadership.

they need to do it economically before they do it militarily and again, i don't think americans, particularly some of these financial community is thinking about it like they thought about the soviet union and the cold war. we are absolutely in one. so in this case the governing board over at the military 401(k) style retirement as made a decision to broaden its global investments including the beijing stock exchange which will fund as you said companies that are building ships, planes, conducting espionage and oppressing the chinese people. i've introduced legislation to stop it and i've talked to the white house about it and i'm hoping the president will soon seek to stop it on his end as well. the problem is, these board members, almost all of them are obama era appointees and senate conference that we need to stop this in the short term so we can get those people changed out.

a lot of these folks, they think like vice president china does apparently that the rise of china is peaceful and a good thing. the last thing i want to see his military members retirement going to fund of the adversary that they may have to confront some day unbelievable. >> ed: want your op-ed reference is a story sort of laid out, that workers and military members can have. it says based on current best practices, this is how they justify it in the investment industry. we don't believe it's appropriate to prohibit millions of these participants for making a choice that could be in their best interest and is available to all other american investors. so, i get your beef with china and obviously that was in 2019 before the bad behavior that president trump is calling out now in terms of the virus and lack of candor. but answer that, and basically

if i open up an investment account anywhere i have the freedom to invest in china or the u.k. or anywhere else. so while we may not lik like thr behavior why should we invest in that? >> and for the rest of america come back in the cold war they wanted to invest in russian companies building the soviet military they could do that. but inc. the case of the thrift savings plan, that is a really our only choice in terms of monthly contributions. number one. and at number two there's a taxpayer-funded match to those contributions as well. i want people to make money as well but i draw the line when it comes to national security. and that's what i mean, not only board members, politics but are old country needs to wake up that the chinese communist party is in a cold war against the united states. in the last thing we can have is our entire federal retirement system, our pension systems

funding the very companies that are building out the chinese military. so that's where i draw the line. number one, these military members really don't have a choice. at number two, it's taxpayer-funded match. number three, draw the line in terms of those choices when it comes to national security. >> ed: it was broaden this out. if there was a report in "the new york times" breaking about the idea that the intelligence community is trying to fire on all cylinders if you will and investigate what we are talking about big picture. which is what did china know or did they know it, did they cover up the spread of this virus and all the rest. in fact gillian turner, bret baier, we knew that this investigation was going on but maybe it's being flushed out. if there's a new statement this morning from the director of national intelligence saying, yes. we are using all intelligence community resources that we can right now to find us out. how important is it to get to the bottom of all of this and what kind of accountability do you want to see from china?

>> i think we absolutely have to get to the bottom of it. i'm glad the administration is dedicating the intelligence community to do so. as part of the broader narrative, chinese diplomats and presidents, ironically it denies to its own people but is blasting all over the world that it is not responsible and in fact some of them are saying the united states is responsible. so you have the arsonist of that started the fire now going around the world and trying to be a hero with testing kits and ppe and others. so i think this is part of the global narrative that we have to win here. number two, china needs to pay. i think they are going to pay and terms of the manufacturing that we are going to pull out and bring back home. i've introduced a bill to do that as well and they are going to pay in terms of the global protection that they are trying to win, that their system is superior to ours. back to my message to

wall street investors and others. if you want a million person economy, look at india. world's largest democracy and our ally and that's how we have to shift our thinking. >> ed: and a whole lot of changes in the days ahead. thank you for joining us. >> sandra: a small business loan success story while the coffee shop that employs workers with diverse abilities. their jobs put in jeopardy because of covid-19 shutdowns but now the owner says things are turning around and she will join us live come next. >> i know everyone is ready to return to normal, but i believe it's time for a new normal. one where people with disabilities are valued, especially in the workplace. refinance to a lower rate? one call to newday can save you $2000 a year.

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governor andrew cuomo is holding his daily press conference there in albany and he just said the number of deaths in new york state yesterday was 306, that was down from the day before but he still called the number horrible. he's now talking about rapidly expanding testing in his state, talking about reopening the state but is going to be important to rely on data as far as moving through the phases of the ribbon. the governor continues has press conference there and we will monitor that for news and bring it to you as we get it. >> ed: a new mission in law for nasa as they search for water. that is known as a lunar flashlight which would scour the bottom of the craters on the moon for surface ice. water vapor was first discovered on the moon back in 1971 with evidence of ice found. >> amy, because of the ppp

program, was able to rehire the 120 workers that she was forced to lay off. and now, those workers, all of which have some form of disability, are able to bring cheer and bring comfort to your clients as you are serving them. >> sandra: that was ivanka trump at the white house on tuesday talking about coffee shop owner amy wright who is praising the paycheck protection program or ppp after getting a loan that she says saved her small business and her employees jobs. joining us now is the founder and ceo of biddy and bill was coffee. we spoke to you a bit ago, and it was some of the darkest days of the pandemic. you were concerned about your employees. first, how was your visit to the white house? >> it was a very good visit.

as a parent of children with autism and down syndrome i have also always advocated for people with disabilities. to have that opportunity to take that message to the white house, we are most grateful. >> sandra: so how have things been going since you have been able to secure that money, how is it going for you? >> it's going great. we have a 120 employees and we have written handwritten notes that they include with all of the online orders we are shipping and they are very much a part of our success, we could not do what we do without them. >> ed: you were able to take all 120 workers on your payroll. what do you imagine the reopening of business looks like for you and for others in this country who have suffered

through this? >> i look forward to the day. we will make that decision when it say for our employees and customers. we love seeing people travel from all over the world to come visit our coffee shop, so we are really looking forward to not just getting back to normal but, as i shared at the white house, a new normal wear people with disabilities are more part of the workforce. >> sandra: amy, how hard has this been on them? you talked about uncertainty with their jobs and so many people on the screen now that love what they do and, how have they responded to your ability to secure the funds to then keep them employed? >> it was very important to us. 80% of the people in this country are unemployed come up with disabilities. so for most of them, working

here was their first job ever come at their first paycheck. so when we had to temporarily close our shops and temporarily lay off our employees, it was a scary time, a lot of uncertainty. so when i was able to share that news that the bank had hoped to secure a ppp loan and that they were receiving a paycheck again, it's life-changing. it means the world to all of us. >> sandra: we see these pictures up on the screen, so what changes specifically will you have to make as a business, interacting with customers and preparing food and beverages? what specific changes will you have to make to adapt to this new world? >> we will look for the guidelines and follow them very closely to create a very safe place for both of our employees and our customers.

we will continue to share the smiles and the joy that our employees spread every time we open our doors. >> sandra: thank you for sharing a bit of that joy with us this morning. we see the smiles on their faces and your brand, your shops are incredibly popular. we wish you the best of luck. thanks for coming on. >> thank you. >> ed: fox news alert, california cracking down on crowds and the governor taking a net risky behavior calling out throngs of people seeking fresh air and sunshine. his new order targeting parks and beaches and what that's all about coming next. >> this virus doesn't take the weekends off. this virus doesn't go home because it's a beautiful sunny day around our coasts.

>> sandra: california ordering state parks and beaches close to prevent the kind of overcrowding we saw last weekend. the governor moving them off limits to slow the spread of coronavirus. national correspondent william la jeunesse is live on the west coast. >> as for that overcrowding let's let your viewers judge for themselves. newport beach police say the governor is wrong. their photos show and officers patrolling the beach say if people were 6 feet apart contrary to what newsom claimed on monday. >> we have to manage arrests and manage and augment our behavior and that's why i cannot impress upon you more to those californians watching that we can't see the images like we saw particularly on saturday in newport beach. >> so this weekend according to newsom police will close

california's entire 140-mile coastline. people flocked and beat packed streets and parking lots. many say newsom is making matters worse and not better including the saints quarterback drew brees who lives san diego. >> i think the ocean is therapeutic for a lot of people so the fact that it was close for so long, it finally caused a lot of stress. >> the beach is an easier place to social distance because there is a lot of room here. >> it looks like we are doing pretty well. people are by and large following the rules, keeping moving, walking and running and getting into the water. >> so that's another issue. critics say show us the data that proves people who go to the beach contract the virus more than people who don't. governor newsom has not done so

but he plans to announce the statewide closure later today. >> sandra: william la jeunesse, thank you. >> ed: so individually, baseball coming back this summer or not, fans across america really want to know is baseball tries to salvage the season. why dr. anthony fauci called me last night and said he still optimistic they will play ball. that's next. >> president trump: we don't want to go back to where wise. when i look at a baseball game i want to see people right next to one another. i want to see the nfl with a packed house. to let me know i'm doing something good for the community, not just papa john's.

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>> ed: so, his major league baseball coming back this summer or not? let's bring in sportscaster and fox news contributor jim gray. always great to have you. interesting yesterday, because dr. tony fauci gave his interview to "the new york times" where he sounded pessimistic about all sports coming back. whether it's nfl or major league baseball. a lot of baseball officials were concerned about that. levine of the new york yankees told fox news radio he was surprised, because dr. found to have been optimistic before. i called dr. fauci late yesterday. he called me back. he posted the story at foxnews.com. he said, "no, no, i think they read after my interview. there's a range of options for baseball. we don't know about the summer. we don't know about the fall." but he insisted to me that people were reading him wrong. everyone is trying to read the tea leaves, is the point, jim. are you optimistic? you been around sports for so long. let's start with baseball.

they had this idea to come back around back around fourth of july, early july. america's birthday, america's game. think they can for dumb i pull it off? >> i mean, i hope so. it all depends on the virus. anybody tells you they know, they're not telling the truth. nobody knows. nobody has an actual account as to where this is going. if they did, they'd be able to set their plans. but they are taking it day by day, hoping that this curve can go away in the summer. based on the likes of play. the mba would like to come back. i'm sure hockey would, as well. i'm not as familiar with that. those ports would like to start, and speaking for baseball, they would like to get this started. they are probably going to need two or three weeks to go back to spring training, because they've been away now for a long time and they don't want to risk injury. the same thing with the nba, possibly going to orlando, down to las vegas, having a quarantine area. all of these things are very problematic. there's a lot of hurdles to get over.

plus, the players want to be paid. the owners don't want to pay the players for a partial season. if there is a partial season, they has to be some kind of forgiving nature for all of these sports. the unions, working out deals with the unions is not an easy project. >> ed: absolutely. major league baseball, the hall of fame, cooperstown, new york, we are expecting derek jeter. he's going to be inducted. larry walker, great outfielder. they will have to delay that. this may happen now in 2021, instead of the summer of 2020. we always see that big event in cooperstown. it reminds me not just a focus on baseball, but you have been around the nfl for a long time. what are your hopes of them coming back this fall? >> well, they went ahead with the draft. they pulled off the draft great. they technology, what espn was able to accomplish, and the national football league together, it was just terrific. it uplifted america. the readings are huge. i think they had 14 or 15 million people to an end

across the three networks in the nfl network, as well. football has a plan to go forward. they can push their season back. if they push their season back and wait for this virus to come down or possibly go way before the fall season comes, and possibly a rebirth of it, they want fans in the stands. again, it's a difficult equation for the nfl. of the fans are not in the stands, they have to negotiate a deal with the union. because half the revenue is generated at the parks. if there is no part, it's only on tv, and it's a studio game, players are going to have to take a cut in salary. or they will have it cut off the next year on the salary cap. each don't like way. these things have to be worked out. i'm hopeful the nfl will play. they have much more leeway, because they don't have to go into training camp until the end of july or august. they can see where this goes, they have the luxury of time. we want to see these parts dumb experts back on will be on their side. >> ed: the ncaa now saying

athletes can earn money using their likeness for profit. good idea? >> it's long overdue. every base profiteering off these kids except the kids themselves. sneaker companies, coaches, institutions. everybody is making money except for the people providing the service. they should be able to profiteer off their likeness. how they do this, how this is implement it could be problematic and it's going to be a slippery slope, but it is long overdue. >> ed: we are going to watch that. baseball, the nfl, all of this. jim gray, we certainly appreciate you coming in. thank you. good to be with you. sandra? >> sandra: we know the white house meeting has happened. we are waiting to hear from the president and the new jersey governor, talking about being on the front lines of this pandem pandemic. larry kudlow and dr. birx are in the room. the president praised the governor of new jersey saying, "you're going to see the result

very soon." he went on to thank him for the enormous help in the darkest hour of need. we should see that shortly. >> ed: there was a lot of news out of our interview with kevin hassett. i saw the wires crossing operators and others. these are big numbers, a lot happening at the white house. >> sandra: thanks for joining us, everybody. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: we begin without fox news alert. because we are awaiting remarks from president trump, we know that he has just wrapped a meeting with new jersey governor phil murphy in the oval office. we'll get that live video out for you and bring it to you at any moment. all of this, as the white house white house's social distancing guidelines are set to expire today. president trump has also signaled there are no plans to extend them. >> president trump: i think they'll be fading out, because now the governors are doing it. i've had many calls from governors, the governor of