time at 3:30 p.m. eastern, that streams everywhere, foxnews.com, facebook and youtube, and i will see you on "the five most quote today, we need to have a little bit of fun. up next, here is bill hemmer. >> bill: thank you, dana, at this hour, many are not happy in california, the governor's decision to keep much of the state shut down, sparking protests. a live look from southern california. giving the daily update of any moment after ordering the beaches near los angeles to close again. the protesters calling on him to reopen the economy, one of several states where americans are speaking out today. we are live in the ground in the golden state. first more governors easing restrictions for tens of millions of americans. by our count, at least 21 states are seeing some movement today. from arizona, elective surgeries are back on, from maine, people can walk into a barbershop.

that today is considered progress. white house press secretary kayleigh mcenany racking in her first briefing in the last 30 minutes or so. she says that the president encourages to follow the federal data guidelines so that ultimately it is not his call. >> the president is resolute in saying that the states take the lead. it is up to governors to decide what is best for their state. >> bill: more from that's coming up throughout the hour, these numbers are staggering, 30 million americans that filed for unemployment in the last six weeks. governor scalia joining me from washington, thank you for coming back on this friday afternoon, and good day to you. >> it's good to be back with you, bill. and those are hard numbers to see, 30 million. >> bill: if i could come i want to rifle through a number of topics that we have here. 30 million so far, how high is the forecast for that number?

>> well, we don't know. we know that the filings are slowing down, bill, we also know that this has been a very painful time for those people and their families. obviously, the president acted very quickly to get enhanced federally supported unemployment benefits to those people that have been working very closely at the labor department with the states to help them make those payments from their systems. this is a state run program. we are giving them all the help that we can, but i think that we are seeing the filing slow down. and as he mentioned a moment ago, we are now seeing states reopen too. >> bill: thank goodness for that, but no number among the 30 million? >> i can give you a couple of numbers. they have heartened me. there was a poll by ap last week showing that nearly 80% of the people that are being laid off think it will be a short term. and i've seen some data from one

state showing nearly 90% of the people who were filing for unemployment were saying at the time that they expected to be recalled. so that's good news. we are looking towards that reopening, and obviously, the president is doing what he can to help with that. >> bill: i saw larry kudlow say that the second quarter would be awful, we will see how awful it will be. but striking for a big company companies like amazon, whole foods, and walmart, these employees are concerned about the working conditions they are, what level of assurance can you give them when these businesses do reopen, sir? >> well, obviously, workers being safe as we open is going to be important. it is something that we have been very focused on at the labor department, osha, that's the occupational safety organization is a part of our department. we have been working with the cdc putting out guidelines for a number of different industries on how to keep their workers safe. we helped with the meat packing

plant earlier this week to give them guidance that they can follow as they reopen with the president's directive, there are steps that need to be taken. a lot of them are familiar, we we will keep workers safe and if companies are not taking it seriously with the labor department, we do have enforcement tools. >> bill: paycheck protection program, what i am hearing from companies is we need longer than eight weeks to pay the money back. would you consider going back and changing that? give them 12 weeks or even six months so that they can plan? >> as you know, the paycheck protection program bill was an act as labor set -- secretary, it has been very vital to keep people on the payroll and those loans are forgivable if they kem on payroll, if they keep them on, they won't have to pay the loans back.

>> bill: the suggestion is that more would do it if they had the time to predict what their business would look like when they reopen. >> the demand for the loans has been great. i appreciated that this program can't meet the precise needs of every small employer, but in the first round, there were 1.6 million loans written and covering about 30 million workers and the small business administration is predicting that another 30 million workers will get the benefits from this second round of funding that the president signed last week. it's not going to cover everybody, but it is doing a great thing. >> bill: so just to be clear, you are holding at eight weeks on the program? >> congress set the length of that. >> bill: understood, but eight weeks is where you are comfortable? >> congress at that length. we know it is a great benefit, but that said, the president and his administration are constantly everyday evaluating

how these programs are functioning and what american workers -- >> bill: one more point on reopening america, i think that this is the ultimate democratic decision here. americans are going to decide when we open and when we do not. did they decide when they stay in their house or a want to leave their home. what is your sense of that as we move into may? >> people are eager to get out. i know that, bill. we see it and feel it. it is beginning to happen. but as the president and vice president have urged all along, he needs to be done in a disciplined way. we have urged patients, i am very pleased to see i think 15 states are reopening, another 17 or so will be reopening in the next couple of weeks. so we are getting there. people want to be careful, but it is time in many places. and i think that our economy has a chance as we reopen now to get back to where it was coming you know, we were so strong a couple of months ago.

we had to take this pause, but i think as we begin getting back, people will be pleased to be back at work and get the economy going. >> bill: good to have you back today, thank you mr. secretary for coming back on our program. have a good weekend. >> did you sexually assault tara reade? >> no, it is not true, i am saying unequivocally it never, ever happen. and the facts in this case do not exist. they never happened. and there are so many inconsistencies in what has been said in this case, and i assure you, it did not happen period. period. >> bill: so finally the questions and the answers, joe biden now directly responding to the sexual assault allegations against him a bit earlier today. i want to bring in "fox news sunday" anchor chris wallace to our program. good friday to you. how did it sound to you? how did he do defending himself today? >> well, it took him a long time to get here, over a month from

when tara reade made her first accusation. here's the astonishing thing, 25 interviews by different reporters, and he never once had been asked by some of our colleagues in the media about this. i cannot imagine that happening, that you would not have asked him, well, what about the allegation of sexual harassment, he made a flat categorical denial, no wiggle words in there. it was interesting, mika brezinski asked him at one point, what do you remember about her, he did not go there. and she did not follow up with the nature of his relationship with her. i don't know that it will change any minds. if you like joe biden, you probably are going to think, well, he is telling the truth. and if you have some questions about joe biden, you'll say, well, that is one side of the story. >> bill: i think we have all been there when you have an interview and when it is done you think back, i should have asked that.

what i felt was missing was, what do you remember about her? what was your relationship with her? what do you recall from that period of time 27 years ago. my sense is that we would have a better context of that relationship, and my guess is that those questions will come the next time he addresses this. >> yes, as i say, that's what i would have asked as well, and she did ask, but he went into the question of there was no complaint, and getting to the bureaucratic issue of whether she filed a complaint, was it in the national archives or at the university of delaware, this is not going to go away, but in the end, to be a little bit cynical about it, there were a lot of allegations about donald trump, he got elected president. there were a few allegations about brett kavanaugh, handed up on the supreme court, and the odds that this will prevent to joe from being the democratic nominee are slim. >> bill: my guess is it is not

over, we will see what happens next on that. but this however came back today. 2018 joe biden said for a woman to come forward and the glaring light of focus nationally, you have to start off with a presumption that at least the essence of what she is talking about israel. whether or not she predicts facts, whether it has been worse or better over time, but nobody vows to understand that this is jumping into a cauldron." what happens, next, chris, do you think? >> there are a lot of people on the left and in the metoo movement who have the contradiction. all the talk about women must be believed, it was not an appropriate standard at that time, women should certainly be listened to. women should be taken seriously, but just to be believed, no, the accused deserves due process as well or some degree of fairness coming you want to see what the

person alleges, and then he went to investigate what are the facts behind it, that will continue with tara reade as it did with donald trump and as it did with brett kavanaugh. but just simply the idea that women should be believed, and there a lot of women that are saying back then or now saying and i support joe biden. >> bill: this will be with us for the next six months. that's what we discovered today. i will see you on sunday, okay. on this fox news under, chris wallace will have the new jersey governor, and to check out your local fox news station, we will see you sunday. have a good weekend, thank you. new details about the michael flynn matter, what new document show about former fbi agent peter strzok did in a critical moment. plus the company behind the prominent drug set to ramp up reduction. i will speak to a doctor about that coming up. and kevin brady joins me to talk about how his state is starting to reopen as of today. ♪

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kayleigh mcenany on the flynn matter. it has taken a turn, more fbi documents showing that the former agent peter strzok ordered the case stay open. tom depree, assistant ag under george w. bush. hello, welcome on this friday. what do you think happens here on the flynn case? >> i have to tell you what is extraordinary, my year at the justice department, i cannot recall seeing a memo like this one that lays bare the internal thinking of the fbi agents as they prepare to interview michael flynn. what is going to happen next is the federal judge in washington, d.c., is going to look at these newly disclosed documents and is going to have to make a decision as to whether he is going to permit him to walk back his guilty plea, to the high standard under the law. >> bill: he was not so sure that the senate could do that. taking the drawback, is that legally allowed. >> it is legally allowed, but it is very unusual. the way that the federal judge

takes eight l.t. plea is hewn have an open conversation in open court where you asked the defendant and his lawyers 100 different times and 100 different ways if they know what they are doing. if they are really guilty of the crime, yes, your honor. that's why, it is an uphill battle when you are a criminal defendant and you plead guilty to an offense to come back before the judge and say, i want a do over and to take it back. >> bill: here's the headline, michael flynn should be dismissed, preserving justice, what do you think about that suggestion? >> i will say this, i hope that the investigation that is ongoing, and by the way, the new documents that we just saw were a result of the new independent investigation by the attorney general, i hope to get to the bottom of what went on behind the scenes at the fbi, because we see a lot of evidence not just the peter strzok crowd, but allowing influence and to infiltrate what should be a law enforcement judgment.

and these documents suggest even more of that. so i'm hoping that we will get to the bottom of this if it turns out that there was a concerted effort to extract mr. flynn, then absolutely the charges should stand. >> bill: come early januar january 2007, there was a report back that said that flynn had no damaging information with regards to russia and the president, on the same day when the case was order close, peter strzok ordered it to stay open, why? >> that is an excellent question, bill, there is a difference from the facts as you laid out to that today said if we cannot get them on one thing, let's see if we can on another. it is impermissible for a law enforcement to take that, they need to see that justice is done impartially, and one question is as if you pointed out we do not have enough evidence for this charge, at ont close the books and pursue something else.

>> bill: the president was asked about it yesterday in the east room, he seemed to dismiss the possibility of a pardon, suggesting that maybe that won't be necessary, would that then lead you to believe that he thinks at least the case could be thrown out? >> i think the president is optimistic that judge sullivan might just throw the whole thing out in the ordinary course, but as we said, it is a high hurdle. i suspect that the president will be watching this very, very carefully in the next few weeks. it would not surprise me one bit, and if some point the president said, enough is enough, there has been injustice. i want to short-circuit the process and see that justice be done and just wipe the slate clean by pardoning michael flynn. >> bill: the most interesting part about this, thinking if it can happen in the west wing -- >> it is very disturbing and has opened a lot of people's eyes. >> bill: nice to see you again, thank you for your time.

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calling the governor to get a back up and running after you close the beaches in orange county. protesters are demanding an end to the stay-at-home order, protesters on both dates. huntington beach, california. william. >> well, here in california you can meditate, treat time, golf, get your botox coming or alcohol. the one thing you cannot do is go on that beach. but it is widely ignored and not enforced. that is still the reason why people are protesting. looking at 1,000 people saying that they see a patch work of rules and enforcement, why? governor newsom said that his office planned to close 840 miles of beach. the entire coastline. then in the afternoon he reversed course closing only one orange county. >> some of those beaches have raised alarm bells, people that were not practicing physical distancing. we will do a hard close in that part of the state, just in orange county area. >> it is a clear example of

unnecessary government overreach. his actions are unnecessary and capricious. and it is an act of retribution against orange county. >> local say that he is punishing orange county based on a few photos that show packed beaches last weekend, compare those to these. in newport beach police say on saturday this is what it looked like. peak hours, 2:00 p.m., painting a different picture. deputies and lifeguards say that they honor the 6-foot buffer and when asked, they were compliant to move. local say they are neither ignorant of the rules or reckless. >> everything is shut down. leave the water to the people that are enjoying it. >> healthy for us to be out in the water. and we keep our distance. >> we want to be safe, but we want to be free. we cannot give up our freedom for safety. >> guided by science and data,

but orange county has lower rates of infection, hospitalization, and fatality than the neighboring counties. so 19 times more likely to get to this virus and out. now the cities of huntington beach as well as data points have fired the lawsuit later this afternoon challenging the closures of the beaches. as you can see, people are out there, they are surfing. people are sitting and so forth. they are going about their business. but as far as enforcement is concerned, right now they are not doing it here in newport beach, they are. >> bill: the weather is going to get hot next week. let's move from california to michigan now. the governor doubling down on her power to issue stay-at-home orders after protesters swarmed the capitol building. some armed with guns. mike tobin watching that and covering it from the midwest bureau. hi, mike. >> speaking of demonstrations,

we are in chicago right now where a group called freedom movement usa has a demonstration. at the rights being trampled all in the name of disease potential potential -- prevention, they sy are overstepping their boundaries, but on to, you talk about the armed demonstrator storming the capital, very upset with gretchen whitmer of michigan. now, she pushed her back extending the emergency declaration by executive order, and that was after the legislature refused to approve her extension of the emergency declaration. anticipated court challenge of michigan because one of the things the legislature did was approve a resolution authorizing a lawsuit against the governor. president trump wade and with a tweet saying the governor of michigan should give a little. he is a very good people, but they are angry and want their lives back safely. to see them, talk to them, and make a deal. but here in illinois, watching

the demonstrations and the people gathered up, i asked if they were concerned about getting too close and spreading the disease are catching the disease, they said it is their right to risk their own health. >> bill: meanwhile from texas, the lone star state getting the green light to open the economy even as the death rate reaches a new daily high. we will talk to texas republican caven brady about that. and the new white house press secretary says that china's decisions to put american lives at risk, let's talk to john roberts from the north lawn at the white house, and new numbers on infections adds meat processing plants, concerns of a national meat shortage. ♪ r you're caring for your family at home or those at work, principal is by your side. we're working hard to answer your questions. like helping you understand what the recently passed economic package can mean for you. we're more than a financial company. we're a "together we can get through anything" company.

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big topics of the white house formal briefing, it was also for the new press secretary kayleigh mcenany. john roberts live from the north lawn to bring us an update on the headlines from that. >> good afternoon to you. one of the big reasons that it was a big issue was that the markets are down substantially today after the president suggested yesterday that he might use tariffs against china has a way of punishing them for letting the coronavirus out. some sources that i have talked to at the white house play down the idea that the president is ready to level new taxes against chinese good. but i asked the press secretary, here is what she said. >> i will not get ahead of any announcements from the president, but i will echo his displeasure with china. it is no secret that china mishandled the situation, just a few examples for you, they did not share the genetic sequence until a professor in shanghai dated so on his own the very next day. china shut down th labs for

rectification, and human to human alongside the world health organization and did not let u.s. investigators and had a very important time. to speak of the president is just short of criticizing president xi. the united states still relied on china for many supply chains including personal protective equipment on the raw materials for pharmaceuticals. kayleigh mcenany backed up what her boss said yesterday that he has seen intelligence that the coronavirus emanated from the wuhan institute of virology that has come under suspicion. michael flynn, and what the white house calls a miscarriage of justice. another big topic of conversation around here today. the president, you remember, firing michael flynn in 2017, the two reasons were lying to the vice president about his contacts with the russian investigator to the united states and lying to the

fbi. if you separated those two things out. lying to the fbi, with the president have still fired michael flynn even though the vice president now says he believes that flynn did not intentionally mislead him. i put that question to kayleigh. >> what i would say is echo yet again that this was a grave miscarriage of justice. i am very glad that the fbi thought to keep a paper trail, because what many have said for a very long time pointing to the first few facts i shared with you culminating in the handwritten note. i'm glad that they kept such good documentation of their attempt to slow walk general flynn into a trap and essentially create as i mentioned a grave miscarriage of justice. if so fbi, at least we can thank you for the great notes. >> at 4:15 this afternoon, the president will pay tribute to everyday heroes who have kept the country moving during the lockdown. so i expect we will hear from him then. >> bill: we will see that a bit later today. john roberts from the white house protects us moving

forward with plans to slowly reopen progress or on sand malls, movie theaters and retail stores getting the green light with restrictions including a limit on the number of customers inside. nearly 2 million in texas have filed for unemployment during the pandemic. republican congressman kevin brady in texas, ranking house member with me, and good afternoon to you. thank you for your time. >> bill, thank you for having me. i'm glad that you are healthy and safe. >> bill: you look well also. your support the governor's decision today? there's a good reason to support that, i would think. can you do this in a way that is safe? on a day, ironically, with the number and deaths and cases in your state reaching the highest point? speak of the answer is we can. the governor and our local leaders have done i think an admirable job. texas is the second largest state in population. we are only tenting cases, we

continue to add testing, so we will see some of the case numbers go up. but i also think like a lot of states, we continue to find challenges in those senior living centers, that's where many of our cases locally and deaths are emanating from. but the governor is doing at the right way. he is very deliberate. he continues to apply a maximum pressure on the virus itself. allowing businesses to reopen at 25% capacity if both employees and the company of keep strong protocols and social distancing in place, but also, and this does not get much coverage, bill, it also puts an equal burden on customers. to social distance, to wear masks where social distancing is not possible, and it's very smart to open the economy. >> bill: they are super vulnerable. back in washington, nancy pelosi is looking for a trillion

dollars in the next stimulus package, maybe that number goes to 1 trillion, maybe it doesn't. the redline for republican seems to be these liability limitations that they want placed in the bill, do you expect democrats to go for that or oppose that? >> i think they will fight it tooth and nail. they are beholden to often to the trial bar, and i think what we are seeking first, congress has already committed over $760 billion to our state and local government and entities. so, one, we have made a huge commitment already. secondly, it is important for companies to reopen with a safe and healthy workplace, both for the workers, and for customers. having legal protections against lawsuits will encourage businesses to have those strong standards and best practices in place. i think that that is crucial. and so is the need to make work

pay again. you should not get paid more to stay, to not work then to get back into the workforce. we think that there is a way to actually encourage workers to rejoin the workforce and get those health care benefits, retirement benefits, all of that. so there are some key elements for republicans. >> bill: thank you for your time. it was short. we will bring you back very soon. $1 trillion, it seems like yet again that it is a big pill to swallow. kevin brady, thank you for your time. thank you, sir. >> thank you, sir. >> bill: the program is called operation warp speed, trying to speed up the development of a vaccine. and looking to start a vaccine trial for his company. first, have a look at this in the skies. air force bombers flying over hospitals in the hard-hit cities of new orleans, a salute to

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>> bill: fox news alert, happening right now inside the oval office, the ceo of gilead, daniel o'day, the chairman and ceo. talking to the president right now, some of the headlines coming from the meeting is that the president is saying gilead has received military authorization for remdesivir,

the drug that has proved somewhat promising in some of the trials. the president says gilead is receiving it out of the head counts. one more, the president called the gilead ceo an important first step and is donating 1 million viral's of the drug as well, remdesivir. dr. peter, you are working on a vaccine yourself. thank you for coming back here. i'm reading the headlines, what is your reaction based on that information? >> this might be the second new treatment that seems to have some effect for covid-19. the first one was the plasma convalescent autobody, that is underway in multiple medical centers, even though we are still waiting for additional data, but this is the first small molecule drug that seems to have some benefits. so dr. fauci came out yesterday and said it looks like it is shortening the length of

hospitalization and intubation required from 15 to 11 days, a 13% decrease. we have this funny result out of china that does not find the same thing. so we have to figure out what the chinese do differently from what we did and why they had a different result. i'm one of the things about the antiviral drugs and the antibody is that you have the virus, you have to get treated early. if you wait too long and you get all of that inflammatory effects going on, then it may not work nearly as well. so we have to get treated early on. with both remdesivir and the plasma drug. >> bill: you are working on a vaccine, tell me about that and what is the distinction? >> what you're looking at now is it going to be at least a dozen, maybe half a dozen vaccines moving into the clinical trials. i hope that they get in this summer. and they each use a different technology to stop the virus

from connecting to the receptor. so ours is so older technology that is the same one used for the hepatitis b vaccine. you are hearing about the rna vaccines, it's confusing to a lot of people, and the reason you do that is because if you are trying to get this out any year to 18 months, you want to try as many different approach approaches, because it is more shots on goal so they to get two or three that are out there and seem to work. and maybe they will target different age groups. >> bill: i like that line from fauci, more shots on goal. he says that a lot. and more next year, you think about how difficult that is. the fact that the f d.a. is moving that quickly, what does it tell you about the process? >> this is part of, you have heard of the manhattan project that ended world war ii, this is a manhattan project, it's not business as usual, but everybody is upset about what is

happening. scientists are mobilized throughout the country, and this is where america shines. this is why we have been investing all that money all these years. now it is coming to coming to fruition, all these drugs and new vaccines. and it is a privilege to be part of it here in america. >> bill: talking to some of the specialists like yourself through the week. with remdesivir, now that you have some indication of progress on these trials that you can mix the cocktail now in a different way, much like perhaps it was done with ebola? >> if you can remember when hiv aids came through, we had vaccination that was not just given as hospital treatment, then outpatient, you could give the exposure drugs, so this is

part of the evolution. the world will look very different when we have many treatments and hopefully more of vaccines. there's a lot of cause for optimism. >> bill: we mention gilead, johnson & johnson, oxford university as well. this is a global effort. and i'm going to guess, even in your lifetime you have not seen something like this? you mention hiv and you mentioned ebola, but when you talk about all of these countries wrapped up in this current virus, this is something that we have not seen before. comment on that. >> one of the things about our vaccine is it is a low-cost vaccine, lower technology and the fact that it has been around for a while. we are hoping that ours will be especially useful for global health. one of the things that i am worried about is with these vaccines they are pretty high tech and it could take a while to filter down to the low income countries. we are trying to get some vaccines that will work immediately and be useful for

poorer countries and south america, africa, and south asia without sacrificing quality. so we are incorporating part of our effort to create the first global health vaccine. >> bill: good luck, doctor, stay in touch with us on that. good stuff ahead. thank you, doctor. the headline yet again, u.s. regulators moments ago have allowed emergency use showing to help the coronavirus patients right now. we will see where remdesivir goes next. approvable has been fast-track. an american tradition going digital due to the virus, tomorrow the kentucky derby will be virtual and feature some of the most decorated horses in history. details on that new twist and how the race is helping relief efforts with the head at churchill downs in louisville. ♪ - hey, can i... - safe drivers save 40%!!!

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♪ >> bill: tomorrow is the first saturday in may traditionally the kentucky derby but this year it will not happen. the event pushed back to september, a virtual race featuring all 13 triple crown winners. the event will also help covid-19 relief efforts. mr. bill, of churchill downs who puts on the derby, how are you, sir, nice to see you today. >> it is great to be here. thank you for having us on. speak don't like >> bill: how can the deck not be stacked in this race? >> well, you can never tell when you take the greatest of anything whether basketball, football and you put them altogether. you can never really know for sure what is going to happen. the morning line favorite. >> bill: how can you not go with secretary, 1973? that finished down the stretch.

where are you putting your mon money? >> i wouldn't want to change historically great horses by picking them. that would be the kiss of death right there. i try never to pick, whether the derby or the virtual therapy. i'd never try to pick who would win. i wouldn't want to do that to them. >> bill: let me fill in a few blanks, 13 triple crown winners come a line up in a virtual race. how did you do it? how did you handicap it for tomorrow? >> well, ultimately it is a random number generally to decide the race but the random general number doesn't consist of 14 equal probabilities. so each of the horses based under historical performances have a weighted average. have real odds attached to them. so nobody knows those real odds, but think of it as a series of ping-pong balls. all 14 horses don't have the

same number of ping-pong balls put in the hopper. the horses perhaps have better times one race over the course of the career, et cetera. they have a weighted different probability. so there is some adjustments based on their track record. and also who's going to win, none of us know, we will have to see. >> bill: just a second, you haven't won this race yet, right? so what does mike battaglia do when it comes to handicapping this? >> mic approach is it like every other race that hasn't been run. he looks at the past performances and the expectations of the yards. the race actually has been run but nobody knows the results yet. but to make sure it works with the broadcast partners putting on the air, and had to be run, highly controlled and certainly as a ceo of a company can i have

no idea what the actual results are. >> bill: we will see you tomorrow and what time tomorrow? >> 4:45. >> bill: i will be watching. and i will be there for belmont. so many losers. and justify the next year at belmont as well. growing up southwest ohio, you come to love horse racing. i wish you the best of luck on this. how do you feel with a postponement? you are coming back in september. are you confident today there will be a derby in september? >> i am confident there will be. i am confident we will have a crowd. certainly a delay first saturday in may, the only second time in 145 years that has happened. last time was right at the tail end mike of world war ii. so it's not been since 1945 a delay. that weighed heavily on us, but we all feel a tremendous sense of commitment and responsibility to make this happen in september. >> bill: great history. be safe, be well.

nice to see you today echo ter terry. because you bet. >> bill: monday through friday 3:00 eastern set your dvr. it's been another long week. and a shot next week on monday. we will see you then. here is neil. they went some big news out of the white house, the president is wrapping up a meeting with the guy that runs gilead scientist. the head of the company behind this remdesivir drug a promising treatment for the coronavirus. we do know that the president has helped give that emergency authorization from the fda, and could get it again to the public sooner rather than later. there was a time frame people spoke in the fall potentially being available. this, at the nebraska university study of this drug and currently shows it can accelerate the recovery for patients in advance of covid-1ge