well and good in september. gillian: i will never say i never learned something from you, leland. leland: good way to end the show. eric and arthel will have a lot more news from new york. see you tomorrow. arthel: more states are easing or lifts coronavirus restrictions amid a growing shutdown from coast to cost to return to normalcy this in the phase of caution by experts and as we see the staggering toll of the pandemic, the number of coronavirus cases in the u.s. now more than 1.1 million, hundred thousand, i said that wrong but you get the point. 1.1 million and the death toll now topping 65,000 sad to say. hello, everyone, i'm arthel neville, welcome to america's news headquarters. hi, eric. eric: hi, arthel, hello, thank you for joining us on this saturday. i'm eric sean. you know nearly 2 dozen states

are allowing some businesses to reopen this weekend, it is the biggest push so far to try and get our economy back on track. the move comes amid rising tensions over the stay at home orders that have been leading to protests across the country even though some states notably florida, mississippi and texas, they saw their highest one-day totals and deaths from coronavirus this week and gallup, new mexico remains shut off because of the virus. white house economic adviser warning that the financial fallout will still be felt for some time even as the u.s. economy slowly turns back to life. >> you are going see a very big increase in the unemployment rate, very big decline as larry kudlow mentioned, second quarter gdp but most forecasters expect the second half to rebound from that and the sooner we get going, the more likely that that the true. eric: steve harrigan with the

very latest from the cdc, hi, steve. steve: eric, a rare bright spot. fda on friday gave rapid emergency approval to remdesivir, antiviral drug and used to try to speed the healing time. can cut healing time with someone with the coronavirus infection anywhere from 15 down to 11 days but researchers warn that it's not a knockout drug. >> now we can actually easy the healthcare system because if you can have the patients four days earlier without medical care and we open the door for other sick patients that are trying to get in the hospital especially in the situation where capacity is overwhelmed. steve: cdc is increasingly concern with the nation's food supply. there have been dozen of meat packing plants across the country shut down due to outbreaks in the plants. meat processors often work at

very close corridors. this week president trump signed executive order to make sure they don't close and stay on track. number 2 deputy director saying the u.s. responded slowly to the pandemic when it first began saying two key mistakes were lack of testing early on and especially lack of travel alerts. in february more than 2 million people traveled to new york and that was the key in spreading the virus to the u.s. eric: we know in new york those cases first came from europe and not china. steve, thank you, arthel. arthel: and eric, coronavirus cases in the u.s. now more than 1 million one hundred thousand. let's go to is your honor california where a judge is denying a request to block

governor newsom's directive that beaches must stay close, cities fighting the order acting governor on trampling on their rights. that's where we find christina coleman following the store for us. christina, what can you tell us? christina: hi, arthel, a handful of protestors at the beginning of huntington beach pier, they are protesting the governor's director. i had a chance to speak with attorney about government's order, officials have been going back and forth to decide whether or not to close the beach and he says they thought it was safe to keep it open, he also says that the governor's move came as a surprise. >> i think what our governor did was he looked at photographs that were showing a mile of beach condensed in about a meter, he should have called me,

i'm the mayor of newport beach and he should have asked me what we are seeing on the ground. christina: yesterday between 2500 to 3,000 people protested the governor's order here in huntington beach. many of them also wanting ease on the governor's stay at home order. we have been in stay at home order since mid-march. city leaders in orange counties dana point and huntington beach both filed against the governor's order arguing the move was unconstitutional and the city of newport beach just announcing their support for that fight in court, that litigation there, lawmakers failed images appeared to show crowded images in orange county last weekend. people were still practicing social distancing at the beach. the orange county sheriff says his department will not enforce the beach's closure by making arrests but instead will focus on education and voluntary compliance. here is the mayor of newport beach on fox news last night.

well, actually -- well actually, you know, you heard from him earlier there, just saying that, again, he feels as the move was unconstitutional and a judge denied huntington beach's request, 80,000 people showed up in the beaches in the area last weekend but yesterday governor newsom they are days away to possible modification to stay at home order. arthel: are there lots of security folks out there trying to keep everybody at bay? christina: yeah, well, here on the beach is my vantage point there's differently police present and law enforcement on loud speaker reminding that beach is closed and concrete barriers. and you see how clear it is,

much different than what it looked like last week. it's beautiful but clear and that's something that a lot of people clearly are not happy about, again, people protesting again today of smaller crowds than yesterday but people still frustrated nonetheless, arthel. arthel: thank you for that christina coleman, eric. eric: trump administration blocking dr. anthony fauci from testifying in house subcommittee investigating the coronavirus response. the hear willing go without him and dr. fauci to attend hearing on may 12th so we will likely be hearing from him. meanwhile the president is spending his weekend at camp david getting out of the white house for a change. he's schedule there had to meet with members of the cabinet. mark meredith remained behind at the white house in the north lawn with more on the president's weekend, hi, mark. mark: the house postponed work to return to work next week.

as you mentioned still hope by house democrats to get dr. anthony fauci, head of national institute of allergy and infectious diseases to testify before subcommittee but as you talked about that's not going to happen. dr. fauci has become a household name ever since outbreak began. the white house is making clear it's not going to happen at least not next week. we have a statement from the administration, they say, quote, while the trump administration continues to hold of government response to covid-19 including safely opening up america again and expediting vaccine development, it's counterproductive that the very individuals involved appearing at congressional hearings, fauci will head up to testify before the republican-controlled senate in mid-may, house democrats, they are blasting that news this afternoon. we got a new statement today, quote, this is from democrats, white house's decision to allow dr. fauci to testify in republican-controlled senate but

not before the house appropriation's committee is letting politics overtake public health. there's no distinction between our two coequal legislative bodies and we can see house democrats upset that fauci will head up to the senate and speaking of senate, more testing available for senators as well as their staff as they get ready for the week ahead. the department of health and human services announcing they'll be 1,000 tests made available as well as the point of care machine to make sure people have what they need to feel safe going back to work. meantime the u.s. intelligence committee continues to investigate the origins of the outbreak and intelligent source coal john roberts that the virus originated in chinese lab and released was an accident and not intentional. the trump administration says chinas has not been forth coming from the start. >> there's no reason that china stopped u.s. investigators coming in. it was paramount importance that we got into china in expedited

fashion and that didn't happen. mark: the president is expected to be back in dc on sunday. there's going to be a fox news virtual town hall. the president will be participating sunday evening and eric, thank you, tributef town as the u.s. navy blue angels, air force thunderbirds continue their nationwide flyover to honor first responders, healthcare workers and other essential personnel, the team is buzzing over the nation's capital and baltimore region over today as well as atlanta. lucas tomlinson with more. hi, lucas. lucas: hi, arthel, incredible show. i stepped outside the pentagon to check it out, it was amazing and the flyovers were such a big hit earlier in the week that they decided to do them again. as you mentioned in the nation's capitol and drew the attention of the first lady stepped out on the balcony to snap a few photos which you should see momentarily. drew large crowds not just here at the pentagon but also on the

mall and the nation's capitol. earlier today after the show the head of pg county's hospital spoke to fox news. >> we have almost 3,000 members of our workforce here and they have been going full board for several weeks now and just the acknowledgment and the honor of an event like this is huge. luke -- lucas: today's heros in frontlines in the battle against coronavirus. flight demonstrations chains are performing actual combat maneuvers in formation flying not just incredible stunts and air shows much lower and louder. the virus canceled sadly of show this is spring. doctors and nurses in suburban maryland showed appreciation. earlier this week, air force

launched flyover, this one meant to send a different kind of message, one directed at china and north korea and perhaps even russia. bombers in south dakota blew over 30 hours nonstop round trip to south china sea, separate flight of four super sonic b1 bombers landed in guam on friday. 200 airmen to carry more operations, those bombers from texas. a pair of u.s. warships sailed by contested islands in south china sea claimed by china but not recognized by international community, arthel. arthel: it truly is an awesome sight. lucas tomlinson, thank you. eric. eric: well, arthel, that's for sure. arthel, you know, we have been telling you for several weeks about the coronavirus threat in the heartland. some hospitals in mountain west where they are worried about the surge of cases that they are facing, why even the small number of coronavirus cases

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eric: well, you know, it's not just the big cities that are suffering from coronavirus, new analysis of covid-19 data

predicts that rural communities could become the next pandemic hot spots in our country. some counties already happen to have higher rates per capita of infection than major metropolitan areas comes amid concerns whether or not hospitals in the rural parts of our nation are expected to happen, alicia acuña with more. alicia: many employees coming from tyson food plant and shut down after nearly 1,000 workers tested positive. >> our hospital has been

preparing for surge for weeks and if we saw 5 or 10% of the positive cases needing critical care, we would be overwhelmed. ails al really focusing on the point that a surge in rural america is different than urban one. only takes a handful of cases to run into trouble. critical access hospitals which are these hospitals in small towns with 25 beds or less and 5 miles away from the nearest hospital are strategically locate today serve the nation's world region and many are in jeopardy of closing. >> they aren't money-making machines. we don't see big volumes of -- of patients on a daily basis in the hospitals and so the crisis is just really hit hard. >> we talk today -- talked to

geographers and covid-19. >> where will they come to get care and i also think whether they have resources to go find care. in rural regions there are just fewer doctors and fewer hospitals an people have to go further. alicia: a lot operating in code red prior to arrival in covid-19 eric: thank you, arthel. >> i'm pleased to announce that gilead has eua from the fda from remdesivir, an important treatment for hospitalized coronavirus patients. it's really a promising

situation. arthel: that is president trump praising preliminary results on remdesivir as the fda issues an emergency approval for the drug to treat covid-19. this after a clinical trial showed it shortened recovery times in some of the most severely ill patients with the virus. joining me now peter pitts, former fda associate commissioner and also president and cofounder of center for medicine in the public interest. good to have you here and want to jump right in, peter. how historic is this move, this emergency approval and what's the likelihood of success of remdesivir as covid-19 treatment? peter: well, remdesivir doesn't get emergency approval, got emergency use authorization which means that it didn't quite meet the approval standards, but considering the crisis that we are in, the benefit that the drug has within a certain patient population allows

patients to free up patients as they see fit, serious manifestations of covid-19, older patients, patients with respiratory problems and underlying health conditions and generally shortens hospital stay for up to 4 days, that's clearly great for the patient but also frees up beds, ventilators, masks, gowns, et cetera, this is incredible by important especially as we move toward reopening the economy, better handle on how to deal with the population most at risk for covid-19. arthel: actually, you're so right and thanks for clarifying that because it's what everybody is looking for and everyone is hopeful. i do have to ask, though, if there are any potential pitfalls in this earlier usage, if you will, and it's great that it's up to the doctors to decide how to use it. pitfalls biochemically speaking, maybe side effects that we don't know about, will they work and the emotional disappointment if it doesn't work as we are hoping

for some sort of treatment be ready to go? peter: the good news in randomized clinical trials in institute of held, nih, it was quite excellent relative to benefits, that's good news. getting people out of hospital sooner is incredible good news and getting out of the hospital at all is best news. the disappointment here is that the general population is not going to have access nor should they to remdesivir, this is for only people suffering, 10% of the covid-19 population. so the good news here, the really good news, this isn't a game-changer for the population, good news for people in hospital and that is just crucial. arthel: absolutely and we are all pulling for them, of course, so any little if it's little bit of relief or something to move this forward and help them out,

it is definitely welcomed. meanwhile president trump and team of experts, well, they are analyzing 14 potential covid-19 vaccines and if you can tell us, peter, of this batch of 13, if any of them are better -- would soon to be short shot. >> well, the good news is more than 14 and that speaks to amazing corporation to industry and academia and government regulators to put all things aside and have all hands on deck, vaccine development and proposition and exciting things coming out of oxford, johnson & johnson, pfizer, many of the large companies in the world are working on this and we have lots of shots on goal. i'm optimistic and think we will have vaccine 10 months to a year and that's pretty quick and get them to populations that need them and prioritizing who gets vaccines first, second and third and then also, you know, still regulatory hurdles to be

overcome, senator mike braun from indiana sent letter to alex azar talking about the cdc's review of the vaccine and after the fda sends to approval and cdc can't be a ball neck here and that while the fda is doing great job as industry, we also have to focus on cdc and make sure they do the right thing as well to make sure vaccines once approved get the thumbs up from the cdc so they can get out to general population and paid for by the government as quickly as possible. arthel: and finally, peter, that said, everything that you just said, listen, we are as a society, we are holding our collective breath, we are waiting to exhale for covid-19 vaccine and the president is aiming for potential january ruleout of a vaccine. is this timeline more realistic or more optimistic? peter: well, the president for

his credit is optimist in chief, good for him, confusion here with multiple guesses. we will get a vaccine when we get a vaccine and if the president is saying six months, you know, that's terrific. i'm not quite sure what the source of information, i'm hearing 10 months to a year. both are fast and we can and we should probably open the economy without a vaccine. there are things that we can do that rely heavy on therapeutic and making sure the sick get the care they need that we talked about but also maintain solid personal behavior, social distancing, wearing masks, personal hygiene and if we take upon ourself to get it done we can move to mitigation strategy where the virus is in control to contained strategy where we are in control and i think that we can, i'm very optimistic. arthel: booed you -- but you mentioned something quickly because you have the protestors, congregating on beaches because they want to have their rights to be there and you have people showing up at the state capitol in michigan with guns because

their rights are being infringed upon, i mean, you just said that we have to help president trump and everybody else who is working hard to -- to contain this thing, get a handle on the spread of the virus, what's your final words on that? what do you say to people that -- we get it, we get it. we all feel for the people who need to work. we need -- they need to work, the businesses need to be opened, they need to be able to employ people, et cetera. if people are not healthy, then none of that works, what's your final word on that? peter: well, god bless america. we get to voice our opinions in all sorts of interesting and creative ways, guns not so much. you know, certainly what i would tell people, listen, each state is going to have its own pathway forward, some strategies and tactic and, if they're smart we will get it done, we will get back to new normal sooner rather than later. arthel: all right, peter pitts, appreciate your words.

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knox. he leaves behind a wife and two young children. eric: well, north korean dictator back in public eye, new photos and video released by the north korean state media but not independently corroborated show kim opening a fertilizer plant yesterday. it was first appearance in nearly 3 weeks following a lot of speculation that he was either gravely ill or dead. brian live in london with the very latest on kim, hi, ryan. ryan: hi, eric, as you were saying, we can't verify the authenticity of the video but does appear to be genuine and if it is genuine that would clearly dispel any of the concerns that kim jong un may actually be dead. that said the video has prompted plenty of fresh speculation about his health and why exactly he did disappear for nearly 3

weeks from the public eye. may 1, yesterday, labor day in north korea, perfect day for kim jong un to appear to dispel concerns about his health at that factory. he would normally appear at events like that so it was right for him to be there. alarm bells went off when he didn't show up for annual event 2 weeks ago. at first lance he looks all right aside from appearing to walk a little stiffly in some places, observers, though, honing in on a couple of details that does suggest he does have fresh health issues including the fact that he was driven around in a golf cart. also when he's waving, if you blow the video up you can see mark just below right wrist, some doctors have speculated that is from a medical procedure maybe even a puncture a doctors might have made to access arteries while replacing a stint. all we know for sure this is the first time we have seen him

since appearing at meeting, 20 days ago, the rest is, of course, speculation and, eric, there has been plenty of speculation. you think about it, just yesterday we were hearing unconfirmed reports that the government of north korea was preparing that he was dead today, that's clearly not the case and i think shows that there is a real problem with how much people outside of north korea know about what's going on inside the country. eric. eric: yeah, may not know anything. about 2 hours from now we will have a report on a big win by the family of otto warmbier and rick ronel, big win against kim jong un, we will talking about that in our 5:00 p.m. hour. ryan, thank you from london, arthel. ♪ ♪ arthel: well "the new york times" editorial board is calling on the democratic committee to investigate sexual assault allegations against joe

biden, comes just one day after the presumptive nominee strongly denied claim in his first public remarks about the matter. jacqui heinrich is live. >> no allegations against him came up. biden denied the allegation while being careful not to attack accuser and calling the senate to find and make public any documents relating to his accuser's lame if they exist, now that answers seems to satisfy most democrats in biden's circles. speaker of the house nancy pelosi biden issued complete denial while also giving support forresident obama 2020 campaign who also worked on primary run for pete buttigieg said biden denied the charge in a way that should satisfy the american

people. if republicans and biden opponents push too hard on them it will backfire on them and just raise the question of why president trump has never addressed the scores of sexual misconduct allegations against him and to that end the editorial board adding that field senate held in delaware, they call for investigation into sexual misconduct cases from women. president trump denies those claims. in a second interview -- >> i would just say to joe biden just go out and fight it. he will have to make his own decision. i won't be telling him what to do. biden will have to go out and fight his own battles. >> republicans have been reminding of treatment of brett

kavanaugh. arthel: jacqui heinrich, thank you. eric. eric: staggering number of americans are out of work because of the coronavirus. the white house is warning that the worst economic data, well, still to come. so what can we expect as states gradually begin to reopen, when will the economy get back on track, the wall street journal editorial report guys are here paul gigot and dan henninger, we will break it all down straight ahead here on the fox news channel. lways drive like an old lady? [tina] you're an old lady.

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domestic shrinking, what does this all mean to us and when will all get back to work and how should the administration respond on this paul gigot is joining, the editor of the wall street journal page and dan henninger, usually seen at this time in the wall street journal editorial report but we are doing this for now. paul, man, we keep the numbers, how does the administration try to move that around as the states are slowly opening up? paul: well, that's the first start, i think, get some guidelines for opening up. give some guidelines to business about how to practice safe social distancing so people can come back. i'm talking about things like should you wear a mask or not, how far do the desks need to be apart, for example, what about public transportation, elevator protocols, you know, elevators often in big cities are packed, okay, how many can you have in an elevator at one time.

this kind of information could really help, i think, especially with businesses, like that protection, for example, for businesses that want to open up. if somebody -- one of the employees gets sick, you don't want them to be able to -- to be putting the company out of business, so they need some, i think, protection from that, start to focus on getting the economy back safely because people aren't going to return to work unless they feel safe, but you have to start thinking about how to do it with those kinds of measures. eric: you know, dan, you've written about this, what type of measureses -- measures and how that would impact the economy overall? daniel: it's going to vary and some states have less incidents of coronavirus than others. california, say, san francisco

compared to new york city, 25 deaths in san francisco more than 12,000 in new york city, so new york will, indeed, come back more slowly, but i think states like florida, texas, where there's been less of it will probably open more quickly and the question is how much flexibility is the private sector going to be given. i think they need guidelines and protocols, that would be important but at the same time the private sector is going to have to be given latitude in how they operate and how they bring employees back, small businesses or large businesses rather than to try to get them a template for every step of the way otherwise people will be reluctant and fearful to come back and we need them in the less affected states, though states like texas, florida and north carolina, maine, they need to be coming back quickly so that other states like new york and illinois can be drawn along behind them when they are ready.

eric: you know, paul, you wrote -- the editorial wrote this last week about government policies, quote, the government and the coronavirus are crushing the private economy taking away mr. trump's best argument for reelection. best chance to win now is to offer a progrowth vision and policies that can save post virus economy from the strangle hold of the government, so quickly, what type of progrowth vision and policies do you think the president should follow? >> paul: well, don't just focus on relief but growth after the relief. the period has been government trying to make sure that people aren't in poverty and more companies don't go bankrupt. as you go back focus on getting back to work and businesses incentive to invest again. a lot of people from washington think that you can substitute the government from the private economy, you can't, you can --

you can don't write checks for a certain period but sooner or later you have to have the private innovation and the investment and individual human capital that gets back to work and uses their creativity. to do that you have to give them an incentive to do that and one thing that they've done that's a mistake, the government, is they've extended -- expanded unemployment insurance for some employees t better off if they don't come back to work and we heard from dozens of small business folks around the country that they want to start going back but they can't get the employees back because they are going to wait until july 31st when the enhanced unemployment benefits go away. that's the kind of mistake you don't want government to make. you know, they might have to think about tax cuts, they might have to think about other kinds of incentives to get people to get back to work again.

eric: standby, talking about getting back to work, senate is supposed to return to washington and democrats and some republicans, well, they are trying to push another coronavirus spending bill and dan and paul will tell us why the president could be facing a possible rebolt in his own party with benefits that help bring peace of mind in times like these. as important as ever. most visionworks locations are open and we're here to help. if you have an essential eyecare need, visit our website to get connected to one of our doctors. visionworks. see the difference.

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eric: u.s. congress already passing $2.9 trillion in coronavirus relief just in the last six weeks. democrats and some republicans say a lot more is needed. president trump seems ready to go along with at least some of the spending but if he does the wall street journal editorial report board is warning that he may have senate republican revolt in his hands writing, mr. trump needs to start recovering this summer if he wants to win a second term or republicans want to have chance of keeping senate majority. if mr. trump sends mr. mnuchin to negotiate another trillion dollar spending bill with democrats, he run it is risk of dividing his own party in congress, a divided gop will make reelection chances well, impossible, we are back with journal editorial report panel pete buttigieg and columnist dan henninger, paul, do you see

coming in the gop ranks? paul: there's a lot of concern behind the scenes. very few people want to speak up publicly. senator rick scott of florida wrote a piece about opposing state and local bailout, any further spending on that and you heard mitch mcconnell speak up and say, wait a minute, let's -- let's step back and give a pause. what he is reflecting anxiety, another trillion or two dollars here spent willy nilly will spend us in a deep hole and perhaps would make it that much harder for the recovery to get going. let's wait and not rush into it and i think you're going -- behind the scenes that's the message a lot of reps are give to president trump. eric: dan, paul uses the term

willy nilly, but the spending would be more targeted or is there the danger that paul says? daniel: well, there's the danger for sure, but the question is what kind of targeting might they be doing. i think nancy pelosi and chuck schumer very much have in mind to target the spending both at their constituents and at blue states whose budgets are under incredible pressure at the moment such as new york, new jersey, illinois, in large part because of the way they managed budgets in the last 10 or 20 years. we had extraordinary pension obligations and budgetary obligations often because of the contract because they did with public employees in those states and a lot of the money i think some of the republicans are right basically -- basically red states that this would be income tax transfer from fiscally responsible states across the

south, middle west, mountain states and into states like illinois, new jersey and new york. then you have a political battle on your hands and you're dividing the gop as they get behind the proposals, steve mnuchin goes up there and renegotiates another trillion dollars that nancy pelosi wants to send off to the blue states to bail them out. eric: well, paul, what governor is saying they don't have any money. the pockets are empty because of this and basically the fed's fault because they send much more money to washington, multiple billions than they get back. paul: well, we talked about that before. we talked about that last week. new york always sends more because they have a lot more high income taxpayers who pay higher rate and companies that pay higher rates, of course, it pays more to washington than what it gets back. new york can make changes in its own fiscal house, they haven't done that as we've talked about, illinois hasn't done that, nancy

pelosi is now talking about a trillion dollars she wants for the states, a trillion dollars in addition to 150 billion they've sent in addition to the federal reserve's facility to help state and local governments borrow -- >> eric: do you think she will get it? paul: i think she may. not a trillion perhaps but i think she's going to get it because i think the president likes to do deals. i think he's probably going to get some. the question is going to be what does the president and the republican party get in return from this, policy, are they going to get liability protection, for example, for businesses that open, hospitals, payroll tax cut that gives incentives to private business to hire people back, that sort of thing. eric: dan, last word, 30 seconds. do you think -- [inaudible] daniel: the president needs to carry michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, those are states with democratic governors, they

will be complaining that they need the money. they'll say that their constituents are being left high and dry by the president and he needs to carry those states, so he's going to be under a lot of pressure. the question is do people want bailouts or do they want economic recovery. eric: billion here and a billion there, you're talking -- daniel: billion. [laughter] eric: gentlemen, good to see you, thank you. we will be right back.

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♪ eric: well, it's a weekend for opening up. several dozen states are easing or lifting coronavirus restrictions, looking to return some sort of semblance of normalcy if we can have that, amid the ongoing tragedy of the coronavirus pandemic. you know, some governors across the country are facing that challenge, trying to keep their communities safe as possible while quarantine for some, the fatigue certainly is setting in. this is a brand-new hour of america's news headquarters.