>> thank you for joining us today, we will see you back here on fox & friends tomorrow. >> sandra: we will indeed. good morning villain, fox news alert from the white house, president trump promising to bring manufacturing back to america. he flies to a factory that is making n95 masks. at >> ed: residents first big trip in several weeks is in a projectionist suggesting 3,000 americans could die each day from covid-19 by june 1st. as states ease up on restrictions. that's according to a leaked internal document the white house is pushing back on. now >> nancy pelosi is citing projections already as proof she says that more testing is needed

before businesses can get going again. >> this is about lives, the livelihood and life of our democracy. what it says is that we have not sufficiently acted upon the knowledge that we have had. we must insist on the truth. as we go forward, we must insist upon the truth. >> ed: john roberts starts is off this morning from the north lawn. >> good morning to you. let's get to the numbers in just a second. it's been a while since the president has gotten out of town so he's headed for arizona today. the vice president has made a number of trips outside of washington so this time it's the president's term. the visit to this honeywell factory in arizona is meant to highlight the public-private partnerships that the president has forged in the last three weeks to produce the equipment necessary to respond to the coronavirus. honeywell is one of the companies that stepped out without the president having to

invoke the defense production act. the president continuing to push back that shows that by the 1st of june the daily inspection rate will increase from the current 21,000, 2,200,000 per day on the deaths will go from 2,000 per day to 3,000 per day. those projections coming in from johns hopkins that were in that fema report and in an interview, president trump said i don't know anything about it. nobody told me that and i think it's false and fake news. i do know that dr. deborah birx, a member of the task force, she has many questions about it. and here's what kellyanne conway had to say about it. >> the task force did not generate and scrub the data and

agree with it. i think the most important thing to note is that the president has said all along that we are going to have death and destruction. what we've been trying to do here is to mourn the dead and to grieve with those who have lost loved ones and then to try to mitigate the damage from this invisible enemy. >> white house officials tells fox news that they do not believe the hopkins projections continued mitigation measures during the reopening phase and the numbers from hawkins are also starkly at odds with the new projections from the institute for health metrics and evaluations. take a look at these two graphs. at the same time the hopkins model on the left shows death rising to 3,000 per day and the i hme model shows daily deaths will reduce to about 890 and will continue on the way down. some troubling news though in the iming each e protection, it shows the number of deaths in total almost double from what the projections were earlier

this week, about 73,000 to almost 135,000 and this will take a lot longer to tail out before we get to the point where the infections get close to zero. a little bit of troubling news they are. we will likely hear from the president by the way in a few minutes when he heads out to the helicopter. >> ed: lots of people are wondering about those numbers as a bounce around. >> mike pompeo's of the virus did come from that lab in wuhan. pushing back on claims of a cover-up. a senator, good morning to you. >> good morning, sandra. >> sandra: so do you along with the president and secretary of state mike pompeo believe that the virus came from that lab in wuhan?

>> sandra all the evidence at this point points to the two labs. no evidence at all points to the seafood market in wuhan. all the evidence pointing to those labs, the fact that they use bats and research coronavirus is, that they have a history of bad safety practices and the original person infected with the virus had no contact with the food market. all of that is circumstantial evidence to be sure but and intelligence questions we really don't like really get direct or conclusive evidence. i agree that all of the evidence albeit circumstantial points to those labs and if they need to bring it forward to the world. >> so to be clear, you do not believe that it was created and that lab, you believe that it spread from that lab? >> sondra, those are two distinct questions. now whether the virus was genetically modified or engineered and at the highly

technical scientific questions and the way that the scientific opinions is that right now, this is a naturally occurring virus. the naturally occurring virus can of course be present in the laboratory where it's being studied and that the different question than saying that laboratory may divide bad safety practices and there could've been an accidental breach which was a original source of what has become this terrible pandemic. >> sandra: okay senator, i'm sure you have seen or read if i know that dr. fauci is an infectious disease expert that has been taking us through all of this, they are disputing that very claim that it spread from one of those two labs in wuhan. in a brand-new interview with "national geographic," and in this interview dr. fauci says "if you look at the evolution of the virus and bats and what's out there now the scientific evidence is very strongly leaning toward this and could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated. everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that the virus evolved

in nature and then jumped species. what is your reaction to that? >> again dr. fauci was talking about whether a virus could have been manipulated genetically modified some way in a laboratory. studying this fire is a around the world suggest that's not the case with that evolution could have certainly happen in nature before any animal was taken into the laboratory or in the laboratory itself. but even setting aside those questions, we have to point to have the communist party reacted it rather than tell the world into some of that there was a new virus in wuhan and it was highly contagious which they obviously knew at the time. they allowed international air travel to continue in december and january thereby turning what could have been a local public health emergency into a global pandemic, the likes of which we haven't seen in a century. >> sandra: the world health organization senators saying if

the united states has seen information or hard evidence that leads him to this conclusion that you have come to you than it is time to share it. is that time now? >> unfortunately the world health organization is unfortunately acting as a world political organization and an apologist for china. there is zero evidence that this virus came from a seafood market in wuhan. yet the world health organization takes us for perspective that if there is conclusive or direct proof you must take the chinese communist party world is booked gospel and a to them benevolence and goodwill and motives except for one the exact opposite is true with communists. >> to be clear in that interview dr. fauci also goes on to say he does not suggest that it was mistakenly transferred out of that lab. so we will hear more on that coming up. meanwhile it's a big day today when the director of national intelligence confirmation will

take place before the senate select committee. john ratcliffe, the president's pick a as a intelligence chief, and what do you expect before its confirmation hearing? >> i got to know him well as hs district abuts arkansas'. i believe that john will make a very strong director of national intelligence. obviously that democrats are going to discuss from him what is may be the politicization of intelligence but i don't think that's been happening under this administration. it's always important for any intelligence leader to say that once they become an intelligence leader they will focus on the evidence and the analysis. we had partisans who have been able to do that on both sides. i'm sure that john will give assurances to the democrats that they need those assurances and be a strong director of national intelligence. >> sandra: all right,

senator tom cotton, we always appreciate you coming onto the program. thank you so much for your time this morning. ♪ >> ed: in the meantime the secretary of the senate saying the office cannot legally comply with joe biden's complaint of sexual assault allegations due to confidentiality requirements. there was a series of follow-up questions as a nominee continues to deny the allegations. our correspondent peter doocy is following up on all of this. >> they are having a hard time proving a record of no complaint against him. they have now been shot down by the secretary of the senate again writing to ask if maybe tara reade the accuser could get a copy of the complaint, if there is one herself, but they can't because of privacy concerns. the secretary office was advised by senate legal counsel that disclosing the existence of such

specific records would amount to a prohibited disclosure under the government employee rights act of 1991. furthermore we are not aware of any exceptions in the law authorizing our office to disclose any such records that do exist, if any, even to original participants in a matter. so far, prominent democrats behind biden are not bailing on him including elizabeth warren who told reporters on th the hil last night, i appreciate that the vice president took a lot of tough questions and he has been directly and respectfully. the vice presidents answers were credible and convincing. warren's t2 biden comes despite her original plans to stay in the race against him until convention and despite her staying in the race longer than anybody but bernie. and president trump tells new york post i think he should picked elizabeth warren because elizabeth warren more than any other person including jim

clybourn or anyone you can name is responsible for the win of joe biden. if you look at the biden schedule today, the only thing on it is a virtual fund-raiser where donors pay for the opportunity to talk to him or ask him a question through the computer. >> ed: peter doocy, thank you. sandra? >> sandra: the federal government sending billions of dollars in really funding to hospitals hard-hit by the pandemic. how much more they could needed for the middle of summer is here. health and human services health and human services secretary alex azar will be our guest. plus democrats want an coronavirus task force members to testify in front of congress but not without pushback from the white house. how a game of politics is flaring during a time of need. >> i guess mr. meadows until a week or so ago a member of the house of representatives knows that we will be business a very, very strictly insisting on the truth and they might be afraid

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of service due to the coronavirus. several other cruise companies have announced tentative dates for resuming service. that's first. >> we asked that fauci and birx and paul come forward. they may say we have fauci next week but who can believe that given what mark meadows said and given that they pulled him away from the house. >> ed: chuck schumer right there renewing calls for doctors fauci and birx to testify over the coronavirus response after the white house blocked after fauci from testifying before the house. he's now set to appear potentially before the senate committee next week. let's bring in bret baier. good to see you this morning. your thoughts about the balance here? the white house is trying to assure the public that they are on palpable, and they have to show some kind of transparency but on the other hand it seems that the president has a point, that when we are in the thick of

this they might not be the best time to pull the doctors out of the white house and the task or sense of them up to the hill. >> that has been the explanation from the white house, why they didn't go to the house request. there is some negotiating we are told that the chief of staff mark meadows may allow fauci or her fauci and birx to testify in the senate. obviously the difference between the two come at the house is controlled by the democrats in the senate the republicans but i bet if push comes to shove they will have some hearing. but the point is, they've got a lot of work every day and conference calls and everything else to deal with. >> ed: absolutely. the other big thing with the senate back to work this week, and beyond those oversight hearings, and that's what they are going to do about the economy as states begin to reopen.

>> just the logistics of it. you remember there was a second tranche of money put in there to refuel and it took some time to get it through but it did. we are told that that may run out this weekend or monday. that's significant, obviously the loans are getting out the door but there are questions about some of them, whether small businesses can get access to everything they need to. there are all cons of questions about the ppp program broadly and the administration touts it as a success but it could run out of money this weekend. that will enable nancy pelosi to, and i'm told that she alone will try to formulate something on their own and then send it to the senate where mitch mcconnell will put in probably liability protection and it may be even a payroll tax cut in the senate will send it back. so it will be a ping-pong match which will take some time but

they will likely come to nancy pelosi. >> ed: senator mcconnell has been talking about that. we see and already some lawsuits and various businesses that are facing. obviously getting the economy going front and center in the 2020 presidential campaign as well, and i wonder what your reaction is. we haven't had a chance to dig in on this since friday's denial by joe biden directly on msnbc, but the last two days have had these op-ed pieces one suggesting plan b, but you have two former obama advisor saint joe biden, if you are going to win you have to get out of the basement. what are your thoughts? >> it seems like there is some angst. but there's obviously other things on social media and the tara reade obligations, while this investigation is going on or whatever it ends up being is

a speed bump. and we will see where this all goes. the biggest threat to this candidacy is joe biden. and the advice that david pull off david axelrod are giving, getting out of the basement. obviously we don't know how that campaigning is going to go as you lead up to whatever a convention looks like but you have the president itching to get on the trail and he's headed to arizona today. >> and you lead us perfectly to the man who is the incumbent obviously and those on both sides are saying in regards to what joe biden does or does not do in terms of taking advice to the obama advisor, there will be a referendum potentially on the president and his stewardship overall, but particularly in handling the coronavirus. what are your thoughts? you had that virtual town hall and had a chance to go back and forth, but you had guide benson on the other day who had a chance to watch the town hall and he said don't underestimate this president and that kind of

format. one of the presidential debates is supposed to be a town hall where he can really engage and connect with the middle class in this country. >> clearly that the format he thrives in. he sometimes goes off onto tangents as you know but he likes relaxed answering questions from citizens clearly. i do think no matter what the polls show now, but had to had race hasn't developed yet and i think we have yet to see the full deployment of the trump campaign war chest on joe biden, and i think you will see a lot of things change. but the biggest part of this election is a referendum on how we do. >> absolutely.

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another 10 billion going to rural hospitals already dealing with limited resources. all of this coming as a treasury department says it will need to narrow a record $3 trillion to offset the cost of the pandemic so far. joining us now is health and human services secretary alex azar. good morning, please to have you here this morning. for us to the hospital funding, how will that money be used? >> that's money that is going out for hardest hit hospitals in the hot zones as well as the critical $10 billion that we are sending out to rural hospitals in rural clinics, that's money that's going to support the hospitals with elective procedures, it will keep their nurses and doctors and staff employed. for the hot zones, it will cover a lot of the cost of having to spend extra money on personal protective equipment or paying workers overtime because of the needs of taking care of covert patients. that's a broad program to help

our health care system to have this complete integration of public and private together. he's out in phoenix, arizona today meeting with honeywell in an aerospace factory that they have converted to make litter and 95 from respirators 20 million of them in this world funding, it's all part of this broad effort to harness the entire economy together to help the american people. >> ed: mr. secretary, obviously the other question this morning is are these various news reports suggesting there's at least a draft report from cdc, predicting that you and others in the white house and administration of the possibility to prepare up to $200,000 comic deaths before june 1st. that will be 3,000 deaths per day and it will be rising. have you seen that report? >> i have heard about it obviously, but there are hundreds of models that are

drafted up to look at various contingencies out in the private-public, and those are various contingencies prepared by johns hopkins. the president's recommendations on reopening the economy, and modeling and forecasting, and this is a "new york times" article on the private projections eclipsing 3,000 daily deaths by june 1st. that is a 70% increase, when you look at the private verse of the public modeling what model do you use and what are your expectations as we go into the summer, the weather improves,

mr. secretary. and of course we loosen some of those restrictions on social distancing, et cetera. >> will use a collection of the best scientific models that are out there, not draft reports and draft models, you have to look at what the assumptions are underlying and even the author of this has gone public saying this was an early draft, it was a model and it wasn't a forecast of what was coming. we actually rely on especially the university of washington's model which has been quite influential as well as other work that dr. deborah birx leads to make sure we are relying on the soundest validated scientific epidemiological information. >> ed: at mr. secretary, we haven't had a chance to talk to you since "new york times" report, and the president has hotly disputed that. but they suggested in a long piece that you were warning the president back in january that a pandemic may be coming in and in a phone conversation he told you that you were alarmist and you should stop panicking. is that true? >> the president has always reacted with great concern,

every bit of information we've had to. i've had complete connectivity with him since this first began and through the period when i was leading the task force the there, he was always responsive and he always took the information very seriously and let me be clear. during the period when i was leading those early parts of the responses, when it was more of an hhs matter, the president never rejected a single recommendation that i or his public health officials made to him. he has always taken this with the extreme gravity and that's what led to the historic steps, like shutting down travel from china, imposing the really historic federal quarantines, bringing people back from that wuhan area with federal quarantine. he's been very serious about this from the beginning. >> sandra: mr. secretary, ed cites "the new york times"

article obviously, coronavirus has the hhs secretary in trouble. this past week, the white house journal is in talks to replace you. are there any plans for you to part your role? >> no, there are not. these types of palace intrigue because they want to undermine the quality of this and the unbelievable response of the president has been leading. if that's not what the president and i are focused on. we are focused on delivering a safe outcome for the american people and getting the american people and our economy back to work, not on these sort of gossip bragging things. >> let's get to a question that the president says is important to answer. that's what the president says, he's got the intelligence community trying to get to the bottom of it. so a quick question. your colleague in the cabinet, secretary of state mike pompeo

says there is growing evidence that it did come from the wall and lab and dr. fauci on the task force is saying he doesn't see the scientific evidence to back that up? who's right, dr. fauci or secretary pompeo? >> i don't think there is any difference between them. there's not necessarily difference of opinion there but it's vital that we get to the bottoms or the origin of this virus. i and dr. fauci and the rest of our team have been focused on the question since the early days. let me be clear, china can resolve this. china could be transparent and collaborative, they could share the initial viral isolates, viral sequencing and tell us what they know about patient one. they could be transparent and if they wanted to they could resolve these issues. until that time the rest of us have to keep investigating because it's critical to know how the virus came to be. >> sandra: mr. secretary, i just have one follow-up question

to that. the world health organization saying if the united states intelligence community has evidence that this came from that wuhan lab, shared with us. otherwise it's still speculative at this point. they are sharing the evidence that we have with the world health organization? >> we will at the appropriate time, but the world health organization has been apologizing for china's conduct throughout even though it has been absolutely clear that china has not been transparent or cooperative. i offered to send cdc officials to china back on january 4th and it took a month and a half before the world health organization finally deployed a team there to china to get critical information. if china had opened up, and they still world health organization had done its job in january we would know more about the asymptomatic transmission of this virus. we would know more about how rapidly it spreads to other individuals and we would know

more about the art comic origins of this virus. china failed to be transparent and failed to be cooperative and because the world health organization failed to do its job the entire community was placed in a detriment. >> ed: secretary, we certainly appreciate your time today. in the meantime, fox news alert. in new york state now reporting more than 1700 undisclosed deaths at nursing homes and adult care facilities from the coronavirus, and that's according to the associated press. this is governor cuomo outlines of four days plan outlining businesses and the hardest hit states in america. but warning, it's not going to be easy. >> it's simple. you go to the basement and he threw the big power switch and everything just goes down. when you go to restart, the reopening come now, knowing what we know, it's more nuanced and you have to be more careful. >> ed: david lee miller is live in new york city with more details.

good morning. >> the newest one day statewide death toll now stands at 226 and that is the lowest it has been in more than a month. governor andrew cuomo says the shutdown of the state economy is, and his words and not sustainable situation and has released new details on its reopening. the restart won't be statewide but rather on a regional basis. at the first businesses to open up will include construction, manufacturing, and curbside pickup. before businesses can reopen, the region must have a two week drop in deaths plus available hospital capacity of at least 30%. the governor says don't expect business as usual. >> we need businesses to also reimagine how they are going to do business and get ready to protect their workforce, to change their physical environment to the extent they

need to, and to change their processes to make sure that people can socially distance. >> the new york city health department is warning parents about a potentially fatal illness affecting kids that could be related to the virus. 15 children have been hospitalized with symptoms similar to toxic shock syndrome or kawasaki disease. no deaths were reported by some patients required cardiac or respiratory support. many of those affected had recovered from the coronavirus. and here at mount sinai hospital there appears to be some optimism at the height of the pandemic, just a few weeks ago the lobby of the building had been converted to treatment rooms. this week, the temperate facilities are being dismantled. governor cuomo has said that statewide, the number of new virus cases that call for hospitalization is declining and he did say the death toll remains unacceptable.

>> ed: david lee miller, thank you. >> sandra: a live look now at senate confirmation hearings and it is underway. the president's nominee for the director of national intelligence john radcliffe, you can see on the screen here. social distancing these days, you can see members of congress with face masks, some on their face and some not. vice chairman warner is now speaking he's expecting a grilling on capitol hill this morning as he goes through this confirmation process from senate democrats. we will be monitoring this for you and we will bring you any news as it comes in. >> ed: very interesting to see the social distancing there. the governor is in a showdown with the attorney general. a former deputy assistant attorney general tom depree will weigh in the next. >> we will accommodate the needs of churches and houses of worship together in person, but

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>> ed: at the counsel for ralph northam defending stay-at-home orders. the attorney general william bar is back in the white house fellowship church after its pastor was threatened with fines and jail time for hosting 16 people during palm sunday services. both the attorney general and the church argue it was unfairly targeted. tom, good morning. >> good morning. >> what are your thoughts on the case of the attorney general is making? >> it's a constitutional clash between the attorney general and the governor of virginia. there's no question that the president has police powers to issue and enforce orders to augment public health but of course that power has to be exercised within constitutional

limits. the governor of virginia has basically singled out churches for special restrictions that would apply to other nonreligious gatherings on that's a question the federal courts are being asked to decide. >> ed: how do you balance that with the public health concern with, whether it's a church gathering or synagogues, funerals connected with various religious services and whatnot we are coronavirus has spread to come how do you balance that? >> well, it's a tricky balance to strike, that's for sure. what virginia needs to do to show that it struck the appropriate balance is either to show that it's treating church was the same way that it would any other nonreligious gathering -- that is to say it's not singling out churches for discriminatory treatment. and if it is imposing tougher restrictions on religious gatherings than on other gatherings and needs to explain why it's doing so, whether it's

a particular risk from this type of gathering or whether it's church is located in a hot spot, but it needs to explain why it's imposing different restrictions on churches than other gatherings. >> the filing says the church "has set forth a strong base with other similar opportunities for imports and gatherings with more than ten individuals while at the same time prohibiting churches from gathering in groups of more than ten and with social distancing measures and other precautions has impermissibly interfere with the church's free exercise of religion. your final thought? >> my final thought is, they protect the exercise of religion and i think with the attorney general's focusing on is the governor is allowing larger gatherings, for instance nonretail businesses like lawyers and accountants to gather subject to social distancing but is not applying that same standard to church

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>> sandra: a major shake-up at nbc news with an announcement that chairman auntie lac will step down at the end of the month after a tenure marked by several high-profile scandals. howie kurtz joining us now. how way, good morning. good of you to be here this morning. what ultimately led to this? >> well look. andy lack's tenure was an abysmal failure, and it was

defined by the world-class debacle with his refusal to the rock-solid reporting of ronan pharaoh under pressure of the hollywood mogul, and that became inextricably linked with the sexual harassment's skin is scaled by only matt lauer claiming he didn't know anything about these allegations until the day before he fired the popular today show host. then he capped it off by refusing to allow an independent investigation. ronan pharaoh has put this tweet out, and that's leadership change, and unionization. and that's a grateful to the sources who spoke. if that's ronan pharaoh tweeting on this.

that's the quicker nature of this happening. >> right, everyone thought andy lack would leave after the campaign and, they had decided much more quickly. and it's really telling that not only is he being pushed out very abruptly, his successor is a very lax team, and it's a guy who runs the company's telemundo station. >> now out in that restructuring, we just wonder about the successor and obviously a broader restructuring. >> i think nbc like a lot of networks is facing layoffs, restructuring of the corporate euphemism because oftentimes

these have plummeted. antilock did have a few accomplishments, he moved out of the anchor job after his fabrication scandal. it was all completely overshadowed by other missteps such as refusing to air is a famous donald trump access hollywood tape even though access hollywood is not universal company. so he had a more successful run in the 90s, this time around. he just made an awful lot of mistakes and lost the confidence of his troops i would say. >> sandra: all right, and that is what we are hearing on that this morning. we will likely hear more in the coming days. always good to see you. thanks so much. >> ed: in just a few moments president trump is set to leave for arizona and he may talk to reporters on the way out.

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>> sandra: fox news alert from capitol hill, the senate hearing it's first major hearing since the pandemic took hold while trying to take hold of social distancing.

now this live picture before the senate intelligence committee and it's hardly business as usual. both taking center stage, chad pergram's on capitol hill with the latest details. good morning. >> good morning. this is a first for carrying on capitol hill on the senate side of the capital and they started to ramp down these big conclav conclaves. he was tapped to receive dan coats and then he withdrew. if there was concern as to whether or not he would have the votes in the 53-47 republican senate. in august, our great republican congressman john radcliffe is being treated very unfairly. and i explained to john how miserable it would beat for him and his family to deal with those people.

he explained. they've come down to the vote of one and my concern was there's not a lot of margin for error. and mark warner said today, he will give radcliffe the benefit of the doubt. warner said "i don't see what changed from last summer. that's a major offender during the impeachment process, and he serves on both. as you indicated this hearing looks a lot different. their witness john radcliffe is about 30 or 40 feet back, and

richard burr to come share of the intelligence committee has advised intelligence committee to stay away from the room until it's time for them to rotate in and ask their questions. back to you. >> ed: good to see you back your post on capitol hill capitol hill. sandra? >> sandra: we will keep watching that. meanwhile, the number of coronavirus deaths will soon double to about 3,000 per day, when june comes. quickly shot down by the scientists who created that model and by the white house. the front-page headline in "the new york times" raising alarm and sparking immediate pushback. an internal draft document for the cdc and fema's predicting a sharp spike in covid-19 cases and deaths starting in mid-may and rising sharply through june thjune 1st. the scientists created that model told "the washington post" that the data is a work in progress. and not in any way intended to be a forecast. the administration disavowing the report earlier on

"america's newsroom." >> there are hundreds of models this apparently is a draft modeling report of various contingencies prepared by johns hopkins. that is a white house and senior leadership for the task force. >> sandra: that was a short time ago here in america's newsroom. now to jonathan serrie who is life america's newsroom. >> he had not gone through interagency vetting. and the fda is increasing oversight of serology tests, these are tests which determine

whether people have been in affected with coronavirus in the past and have developed antibodies. agencies say quality and accuracy. and these tests are a very good way to see how far the virus has spread in a community. and they criticize people who are ignoring social distancing crack guidelines. for those who crowded at greenbrier awaiting the new jordans gathered at piedmont park, shot fireworks at the mall west end and even those now shopping at lynna square mall, they know that the only thing that has changed about covid-19's your chance of catching. this morning, the cdc published a new report analyzing growing evidence that people infected with coronavirus that have no symptoms can still spread it to others.

that would bring down the fatality rate for covid-19. it also underscores the importance of ongoing community interventions as well as increased testing and also contacts tracing to break these invisible chains of transmissions. sandra, back to you. >> sandra: jonathan serrie, reporting from the white house. of >> ed: a key model from the white house has now doubled its prediction as you have heard of how many people will die in america by the summer. the institute for health metrics and evaluation of predicting 134,000 fatalities which is up from a recent projection of 702010, as you see. dr. marc siegel professor of medicine at nyu and l'engle medical center. good morning doctor. it at one point it was

predicting about 90,000 deaths by august, and then i think it was down in the 60,000 change and then you see 72,000 and now 134,000. the question seems to be, no one is perfect but can we trust of this model when it keeps bouncing around like this? >> actually edit, we can probably trust it. at the model that says 3,000 deaths with up to 200,000 new cases per day by june, coming out of johns hopkins which was then rescinded it, that model was based on models that we just don't have. that model and the university of washington does take into account things like, as it gets warmer, you may see less spread. the issue of how many places are reopening, how many states are reopening. can we keep our social distancing in place, all of that is taken into account. but it's still a model. here's what the problem is from

models. in other words you also heard jonathan serrie say, we don't know how many people had this virus and as we go around testing people more and more with antibodies we will figure out how much asymptomatic spread there is and then we will know the caseload in the united states. if we don't know the true caseload we can't possibly predict who is going to get it. if we don't know who has the antibody and they have partial immunity, we don't know who will present a barrier to this. that's a problem with modeling. >> ed: and we are raising questions about this model so we want to be fair. the director of the ih and me that you just mentioned, dr. christopher marty has been on this program and we question him before. he said most recently in each state the evolution of the epidemic depends on the balance and relax social distancing, increased test temperature and we express the epidemic in many states will now expand, extend through the summer. i go back to this and i've heard from supporters of the president to say that they are frustrated because i think harsh policies on lockdowns and other

things were instituted because of this model and then i pick up the story and vox which is more on the left, there coronavirus model keeps being wrong. why are we still listening to it? how to answer that. i like the quote that you just use from the ih me scientists. i will say that it's all dependent upon not just reopening but how much social distancing is maintained as the area is starting to relax thing. what policies are you watching here's the issue. the virus can't spread when you stay at home. the virus can spread if you are in contact with others. of course if we are reopening certain parts of the country and opening on the behalf of the

governors of the states, there's going to be an increase risk of this virus spreading. unless social distancing is maintained. >> we had other issues pop up is we get the arms around this virus, and it's been devastated. it popped up a couple weeks back, we had these unexplained strokes around relatively young people and blood clotting is an issue with coronavirus. what are we learning in the last three days about the issue with blood clotting? >> the issue with blood clotting is a hugely important story that was overlooked coming out of china. it was shocking how much of this there is. a study out of the netherlands revealed that 31% of hospitalized patients there have clotting. our own in new york could be even higher than that. we are not even talking about blood clots in the lungs, pulmonary emboli, and i've seen and heard of many patients with blood clots in the legs, with

strokes, younger patients and older patients with strokes. kidney problems are occurring because of blood clots. at the same thing with heart problems because of blood clots. and they superimpose those blood clots in the lungs. this is an untold story of covid-19 and an enormous problem. >> people of all ages of course, i noticed the president in that town hall with brett and martha the other night was talking about how one of the pieces of data that they have learned, many kids have made it through and it hasn't been as devastating. dr. fauci backed that up with the statement, one interesting feature of this novel coronavirus pandemic is that very few children have become sick with covid-19 compared to adults. is this because children are resistant to infection with sars company bid to or because they are infected but did not develop symptoms? the hero study he writes will help answer these and other key

questions. so what do you think about all that in terms of why kids haven't gotten it as much as we expected? >> i'm helped that by a new study, which shows the following. one, kids are just as likely to get covid-19 as adults. number two, they are much more likely to get an extremely mild case or a case that is asymptomatic. number three, they usually present with diarrhea and not necessarily with coughing and shortness of breath, and the question, here's the billion dollar question. are they more likely -- less likely to spread it then adults? my opinion is that they are much less likely to spread it because they don't have the same symptoms. in other words if you are coughing and sneezing and you don't feel welcome you are going to spread it more just by virtue of the cough even with social distancing. so i think kids tend to also only get it and spread it within the household where adults are getting at and spreading it outside. this study was very, very

helpful. kids got it and they have a much less likely chance of spreading it or getting very sick from it. >> ed: dr. siegel, we certainly appreciate your insights and breaking it all down. >> sandra: thanks to the doctor. cattle ranchers are slimming meat-packers saying it's hurting them financially. so what's being done to keep america fed? plus more and more businesses are reopening but what about the kids that parents have to leave at homes and schools are not yet open? the dilemma facing millions of american families. >> child care is essential in misery, essential workers out there that need child care and we need to provide that support. ♪

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>> sandra: parents around the country are facing a serious dilemma as states begin to reopen. they are realizing they have no child care and in many cases, moms and dads are allowed to return to work but schools and day care centers are still closed. joining us now is the executive child care director of aware america. great to have you. we have big questions about this as a country. schools are still closed, so what do you do with your children back at home? >> child care is essential for many american working families as they return to work. as federal and state governments are deliberating about reopening, we need to address the needs of parents and children and child care workers

who are essential to reigniting the economy. >> sandra: so what is the suggestion because i know there are five things the cdc must address, in order to have mom and dad go back to work and put your child back into day care they are saying click munication, phased approach, governor coordination and understanding that young children do not social distance is much as we may ask them to do so. children may remove masks and availability of vital supplies. these are all major concerns as we start to put our kids back into child care or day care? >> we have to ensure that child care programs are able to care for children safely and we appreciate the guidelines that the centers for disease control has put out, and the fact that they note and acknowledge that child care is critical. we need to ensure that as we are communicating and reopening that the child care experts are at the table with the public health

and health experts to ensure that we are communicating about the needs of child development and the needs of children and that we are also ensuring that those vital supplies, those clinics a supplies that are vital and necessary in the kinds of equipment that are necessary in order to give our children safe and to ensure that as we are communicating and as we are collaborating with public health, we are also acknowledging that young children need care and that young children also may not be able to function in a group setting where they are wearing masks. so what do we do, so that we ensure that children are both physically and emotionally safe. what we know actually -- >> sandra: lynette, what kind of answers are you getting to those questions because many parents right now might be getting that phone call that they need to return in phase one, or phase two, or may be

phase three of the reopening, they are getting a date set and they are saying summer camp has been canceled, summer school is not happening but they have little kids at home. so based on everything you know today, what does a parent do that is facing that dilemma? >> communities have to walk hand-in-hand, child care programs and communities need to walk hand-in-hand because when we are talking about reopening, we are talking about reopening in phases and we need to ensure that children are cared for in to in safe settings and that the equipment that's needed, thick munication that's needed with and for parents art is available to them. and so, what we recommend is to ensure that child care experts are paired with public health expertise. right now, we know by way of a map that was created and developed by yale and yale professor researcher as well as

colorado state university professor, right now there are over 20 million children of essential workers that may need child care between the ages of birth through 12 years old. so we know that child care is currently being provided, although many aren't able to access that care. and so, we do need to lean on the centers for disease control and our public health experts as well as our child element experts that know what it means to provide group care and ensure that funding is available and support is available so that parents can access that care. >> that's obviously with your calls for policy to be put in place and also help with the situation as well but a lot of this is educating our children, right? all through this, wash your hands for 20 seconds, but then they are going to learn more as they get outside of the house about that social distancing aspect. it's going to be a big learning curve. we appreciate your time this morning. thank you.

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♪ >> ed: we've seen so many stories about the impact of the coronavirus on the nation's food supply, and now cattle ranchers say they are taking a big financial hit and are placing much of the blame on the big meat-packing companies. so to get into all this, mike tobin is in chicago with all the details. >> you may have seen that costco is one store that's limiting meat purchases because there's less meat making it to the retailer and, as a result, the

price has shot up dramatically. it's not like the nation has less cattle, and fact there is an oversupply on that oversupply makes the price go down. the cattle ranchers want the federal government to investigate, if the guy is in the middle come the meat-packers are taking advantage of a crisis to put a lot of space between what they pay for the cattle and what they sell it for. >> with production slowed at the meat-packing plants, cattle are backed up in the prices down. >> the producer can't make it on what they are getting for this cattle. >> the price per box to beef has spiked. ranchers claimed the major meat-packers profit about $1200 per head of cattle while the rancher is losing up to 400. >> there is no doubt that the packers are currently making a lot of money. >> the cattlemen wrote the president asking for an inquiry by the usda and the department of justice. we are asking for the current market volatility to be analyzed and incorporated into the ongoing investigation in the hope of identifying whether

inappropriate influence occurred in the market. egg secretary sonny perdue agreed to. >> we will continue to do that to make sure there's been no collusion of criminal activity there. >> the north american meat institute, agreed to cooperate. the ceo wrote in north american meat institute will continue to work with the administration to ensure that markets operate in a fair and transparent manner. senator mike rounds of south dakota and kevin cramer of north dakota wrote attorney general william barr complaining that for a major meat-packers control 80% of the market. >> ed: mike tobin, thank you. sandra? >> sandra: fox news alert, the president is now talking to reporters. he has stepped out of the white house before he is heading down to arizona to tour and letter and 95 mosque factory. president trump is now saying that dr. fauci will testify before a senate panel on the coronavirus response. joining us now, fox news editor

chris stirewalt. as he does, he departed the white house and he is talking to reporters and when we have that, we will turn it around and play that for our viewers. meanwhile, we are now learning that via reports, we are seeking to confirm that with the white house but what ultimately would that mean, chris, if he were to testify? >> he's got to go testify because right now, the democrats and the house are increasing the pressure for fauci and others from the president and from the administration's coronavirus response team to become a customizeaccustomed to. the house is in town, but certainly the refusal by the administration for them to go talk to the house creates a pinch point and we are sort of back where we were preimpeachment. the administration is responding and we are waiting for the supreme court to clarify some of the stuff. if they can get him in front of a republican led senate

committee where the questioning might be a little more friendly or at least in direction and terms of the testimony might be friendlier to the administration, that might be a pressure release valve to help out the administration. >> you talked about the official blocking of the white house, and there was this statement on him potentially testifying from the white house while the trump administration continues its whole of government response to covid-19 including safely opening up america again and expediting vaccine development. it is counterproductive to have the very individuals involved in those efforts appearing at congressional hearings, so that was the white house last week. meanwhile, chris, you have those renewed calls from democrats to have him do so. we asked kellyanne conway to respond from the white house this morning and she said, this. >> i just hope that the people who are asking the questions are asking intelligent rational

questions were actually relevant to the american health. let's make sure that they make good use of the question time of dr. fauci and other members of his task force and they are not usually like doing the usual fishing expedition. >> sandra: chris, we are hearing we may hear from the president shortly but first your thoughts as we heard that from kellyanne conway on fox & friends this morning? >> the game continues. this administration has said it basically depend on a blockade for house testimony forever since before the impeachment and they are there now. this senate testimony could be a good way to take some of the heat off on that. >> sandra: well, you didn't have to make it that sort. i don't have the president yet, chris. [laughter] >> sandra: i am reading through some of the notes here as he heads down to the splitter and 95 factory, some of the reports coming from there.

he is talking about the manufacturing of some of these badly needed supplies in this country, talking about the reopen of america. some states beginning to reopen, not following criteria, it was a question. he says he has given them great discretion and he respects the government's -- governors of those states. at good relationships. and he's also asked about that doubling model. so the question is, if dr. fauci is able to and does indeed testify, whether that's before the house or, you are suggesting the republican-controlled senate, would be a better or more friendly environment for dr. fauci, what would you ultimately learned from him as we are hearing some discrepancy coming from dr. fauci now in his brand-new interview from "national geographic" over the origination and original spread of this virus in china? >> i think there's some cherry picking going on with the

argument that there is. i think there is an urgent desire among th the presidents detractors to totally disqualify the idea that the virus escaped from a laboratory where the chinese were working to come up with the vaccine. that is an urgent article of faith for democrats wanted the president on this. so often they complain with the president saying it's a bio weapon and that the chinese intentionally release date. when i read that interview i did not take away the same conclusion that fauci had leaned into that question which has become a silly person strategy on both sides. it won't get anybody better and it won't reopen anybody's business, so my read on fauci was that he was a much more delicate, he was much more nuanced than a lot of the reporting on the reporting has

been. >> sandra: chris, i'm trying to dig through some of the words, they are sometimes hard, it's not a direct translation of the president's words but i'm getting a better idea of the news that's coming up about the testimony from dr. fauci. the president said that -- okay, fauci will testify in the senate and the democrats should be ashamed he said. he referenced the house as a bunch of trump haters. it sounds like that is where we are learning about the testimony of dr. fauci and the senate. as we await to hear from the president in his own words, this would certainly be a big moment in the middle of this pandemic to hear from the lead infectious disease expert that has been advising the president, chris. >> right. and it's a big moment for the president, too. he's going out to a swing state for one of these kind of visits that pentz tried out last week. he's going to go.

will he wear a mask? and again, arizona is a swing state and we are watching this closely, there's been a lot of tension between the people who are angry about the lock down and people who are concerned about the illness. the president is flying out to out, flying right into the middle of that and this was all part of an administration that it tries to pitch forward, pivot forward into reopening and away from having to talk all the time about the sickness and its containment. >> sandra: yeah. and as far as concerns about the people traveling with him, he's also talking and taking questions on that. everyone traveling at around him and has been tested. we will hear from the president a short time from now. chris stirewalt, great to be with you this morning. thanks so much. >> ed: a fox news alert. as sandra noted we are waiting for the president to wrap up, reporters will get that tape in just a moment. he also addressed the questions about this new modeling suggesting that the number of deaths in america is going to

double. the president pushed back hard on that and so the model assumes wrongly that there would be no medication. he said instead that administration is considering mitigation even as it reopens, parts of the economy saying that there would still be social distancing. he says that this model is wrong and he also reiterated that he is worried about drug use and abuse, potential suicides and other problems that the economy does not get going. the president said that we are going to build this country back up and that's a paraphrase, basically he also goes on to talk about how the economy is going to come back strong. we heard this theme from the president already and he did it at the virtual town hall with brett and martha but moments ago he's telling reporters that he built the greatest economy once and he will do it again. >> sandra: he actually referenced the stock market as he sometimes does and the stock market is up. it's gone up in recent weeks after hitting the lows of this

pandemic. up again today, 327-point again there as the president departs the white house. the president went on to talk about a lot of mitigation, the fact that they are out there mitigating and social distancing, talking about the reopening of america. we did at the right way, but now it's time to go back to work and that's a message that we are about to hear from president trump departing the white house. >> absolutely. he also talked to reporters about his relationship with various governors. there have been highs and lows throughout this pandemic, various times where he's been pushing back on governors and he disagrees, and recently we've seen governors like larry hogan in maryland who raised criticism earlier in the pandemic saying there's a cooperative relationship with the federal government, similar to andrew cuomo. and let's not forget as well gavin newsom in california who doesn't necessarily have nice things to say about the

president saying recently, the federal government has been by their side to. and the president himself saying there is a good relationship with governor sandra and he thinks this is something to build on. >> sandra: the big news is that the president will confirm that dr. fauci will testify before the senate. here's president trump. >> president trump: hello everybody. i'm leaving for arizona. we will be at the honeywell plant which is doing great work for us. and it will be i think a great day. i love arizona. go ahead, please. >> reporter: [inaudible question] >> president trump: i just got information, nothing to do with our government but i just got information on that. we just heard about it but whatever it is, we will let you know. but it has nothing to do with our government. >> reporter: [inaudible

question] >> president trump: because a house is a set up. the house is a bunch of trump haters. the same old stuff. they want our situation to be unsuccessful which means that death, and our situation will be very successful. the house has put on and oversight committee of maxine waters and maloney and the same people and it's set up. but dr. fauci will be testifying in front of the senate and he looks forward to doing that. but the house, i will tell you, at the house should be ashamed of themselves and frankly the democrats should be ashamed because they don't want us to succeed, they want us to fail so they can win an election which they are not going to win. but think of it. they do everything they can to make things as bad as possible and right now the stock market is way up, everyone is excited

and they are going back to work. this is what we are doing and i will tell you the whole world is excited to come up watching us because we are leading the wor world. what happened should never, ever have happened. china should have informed us that they had a problem. >> have you spoken to president xi? >> i have not spoken to them. i might, but i haven't yet. yes jennifer? >> >> president trump: that's a report based on no medication and we are doing a lot of my mitigation. when people report back they will be social distancing and washing their hands, we won't be going into stadiums full bore yet for events and soccer and football and all of the different events, and baseball,

i hope baseball can get going. but they won't be going in full bore yet. if at some point hopefully in the not-too-distant future, but that report is a no mitigation report and we are mitigated. >> have you heard any definitive answers of where the virus came from? >> president trump: i think we do but we will be reporting on it over the next period of time. we will be reporting. plenty of people have asked me that question and we will be reporting very definitively over the a period of time. >> reporter: [inaudible question] >> president trump: no, i don't have any. at any one traveling has been tested. we've been testing and literally have been tested over the last hour and the test results come back in 5 minutes. we have great testing or they wouldn't be allowed to travel with me.

it's not my choice, it's a very strong group of people that want to make sure that they are tested including secret service. the only question i can't answer is, has the press been tested? and i suspect maybe -- have you been tested steve? >> not today. >> president trump: i trust you. i think it's a masked facility. >> are you going to wear a mask? >> president trump: if it's a masked facility, i will. we are going to see a honeywell and they have done an incredible job on many fronts and i'm going to pay my respects to a great company and a great state, the state of arizona. >> they make letter and 95 masks. >> president trump: they do. they make masks that work, not like the ones that we got sent

from certain other countries. or other people dead. with our making ventilators, the antibody test, you see what's going on with that. we have so much testing, i don't think you need that kind of testing or that much testing but some people disagree with me and some people agree with me. we have the greatest testing in the world and the most testing in the world. >> reporter: [inaudible question] >> president trump: while the governors have -- that's a fair question. the governors have, i've given them great discretion. i respect the governors and given them great discretion. if, however, i see somebody doing something that's egregious or wrong i will stop it in two seconds. many of the governors have called me up and asked my opinions and it really, a lot of them have. the relationship is very good. but you know, the governors are given, in a story like that where they are going down, and

going down rapidly, but may be short of the 14 days, they are given a certain amount of discretion. if i see something wrong, i will stop. >> at the new model is predicting 134,000 deaths by august, are you concerned that that's happening because some of these states are lax and guidelines? >> president trump: no i'm no not. that's without medication and we will have mitigation. the fact that we are letting people go and go to their jobs, they have to do it. you know, if they held people any longer with the shutdown, you are going to lose people that way, and you already have, i'm sure. but between drug abuse and they say suicide, a lot of different things, there is no win. it just so you know there is no great win one way or the other. but i will tell you where there is a win. we will develop the country -- i did it once. the best employment numbers i've

ever had in history, and everyone agrees, even cnn agrees with that one but i will say this. we will do it again and that's what we are starting. i view these last couple of days as a beginning. we will build the greatest economy in the world again and it will happen pretty fast. that's with no mitigation, we are doing mitigation. we have a lot of medication. the fact that they are out and mitigating and social distanci distancing, they all know that. we have to get our country open, we have to open our country. so you have all reports. models have been very inaccurate, i've seen metals that have been very inaccurate but, you know one model that's very important is, if we did this a different way, we would have lost much more than 2 million people and we did at the right way. we did everything right but now, it's time to go back to work. so i'm going to arizona, i will see you there. thank you.

>> reporter: [inaudible question] >> president trump: we want them to be transparent, we want to find out what happen so it never happens again. >> reporter: [inaudible question] >> sandra: the president will now head down to arizona where they make litter and 95s at a honeywell factory there. talking about reopening the stadiums, no big stadiums open yet but the testimony of dr. fauci. if the president is saying that he will not testify before the senate and he was asked why not the house. he said the house is a set up and there are a bunch of trumpet haters and they want our situation to be unsuccessful, claim to the president, which means death. those are his words, they should be ashamed. so dr. fauci will testify in a senate hearing and the president confirming just moments ago before he went in to talk about the economy, the stock market and building america back. we will have more in just a

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>> ed: a fox news alert. the president left the white house and you saw is now at joint base andrews talking to the president. >> president trump: i certainly will do it, i will know when i get there. if it's a masked environment i would have no problem. now i'm supposed to make a speech. you tell me, should i leave thee mask on while i'm speaking? >> if you talking about -- you tweeted about it overnight. and if you take a look, it's

george conway. and the republican loses, and you would really think about it, and we produce the greatest economy in history. we rebuilt our military. you get the greatest tax cuts in history, and that's the biggest in the history of this country.

let me just tell you. these are losers since day one. guys like bill kristol, he is at zero and 32. george conway, take a look at them. you should not call it the lincoln project. they should call it the losers project. okay, thanks. >> ed: left the president of the united states and you can see, talking to reporters and talking up the economy, getting ready to go to arizona where they have been making those n95 masks. this is a republican group that has been running these ads, and at the president is firing back saying it should be called the losers project instead of the lincoln project, saying it's not fair to abraham lincoln.

these are a bunch of stone cold losers at one point citing bill kristol's dumb like bill others to disaffected by the president and basically, also trying to campaign around the country and the president obviously, sandra, very frustrated at what these republicans have been doing. standing up for his leadership during the pandemic and also saying again that he built the greatest economy in the world and the pandemic brought it down and he's vowing that he's going to bring it back up. >> sandra: even going in to cutting taxes, about how much he did build up the it, that's taken the most brutal hit since the depression. now you're looking at the dow that's trying to climb back and the president is saying "they have to open and our country has to open. but the president on the way to

arizona, the state which he says he loves. the president will be making this trip for several weeks and we will watch him depart as we are about to begin a brand-new hour. >> ed: we talk about building eight economy back, elsewhere suggesting there's a new model, predicting doubled the number of u.s. deaths by the end of the summer. the president pushing back hard against that in these two different sessions with reporters saying it's based on the false idea that there will not be mitigation and there won't be social distancing. at the president insisting they will be a balance that will build back the economy and also maintaining some of the mitigation over the top of our brand-new hour, coming up. every financial plan needs a cfp® professional --

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>> ed: fox news alert, the white house distancing itself from a stunning new report that predicts as many as 3,000 deaths per day in the coming weeks because of covid-19, even though you just read the president declare it was based on a false premise that there would be no mitigation. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom," i met henry. >> sandra: good morning to you, and good morning everyone. that staggering projection obtained from weeks of trump administration memos coming as states ease up on coronavirus restrictions. the president himself addressing all of that just moments ago.

>> ed: i was getting attacked by a bird here. i'm outside on our north lawn location. >> sandra: you know, you just never know. this whole thing kind of doesn't make a whole lot of sense and the white house is pushing back strongly on it. this idea that by june the 1st included in this fema report, the projections of 200,000 people per day i'd been infected with coronavirus, and 3,000 people will die from the disease. the projections came from a researcher at the john hopkins school of health told "washington post" that the models were a draft work in progress that were not meant to be any part of the forecast. he said they certainly weren't ready for publication. and here's what he said. >> so based on no mitigation,

and you are supposed to be doing what you are supposed to do, but that is a mitigation report and we are mitigating it. >> does not become from health metrics of the investigation and the i hme also came out with some new modeling yesterday that showed at the same time the hopkins data is suggesting 3,000 deaths per day. the ime he model is showing 900 deaths per day and that's a more than 50% reduction from where we are now. however there were some troubling productions in those new models, the models now suggesting that overall in this first wave of coronavirus disease, as many as 134,000 people will die from it, that's nearly double projections that they had out last week. and closer to the original

projections they were talking about where 90-more than 100,000 people will die from it. the researchers said that data was not ready for prime time. there's a lot of speculation as to why it was but nothing that's ready for digestion just yet. >> sandra: and a lot of activity behind you as usual. watch out for those birds. thank you. >> ed: that was something. for more on this let's bring in totomtom bevan. there are all these models as john so rightly reported out, and they are a faulty premise,

and there are a number of deaths in america has been bouncing around. the bottom line is people wondering, and that's what's being used to decide whether or not people remain on lock down that's getting some people frustrated. >> absolutely. the potential tour was 2.2 million, and i think people are frustrated with them. they speak to the uncertainty, and obviously, look. and at the same time he really had no choice and a lot of the

governors in these states are feeling pressure and understanding that we are going to be with this virus and that's what we were told. that hasn't been the case. people are going to unfortunately -- a lot of these are recognizing, devastating and significant and they have to start opening these up. >> ed: how do you see that playing out? and that's not true in every case. they've been pushing, that of course will be front and center in this next election. >> it is. i mean it is.

that's what's happening in my home state in illinois, but you do have a state like california where gavin newsom basically a sort capitulated and started moving toward the economy with such a huge economic engine for this country. and they have issues that need to be dealt with. they have spiraling budget issues and a lot of the states because of falling tax revenues and tourism. everybody is trying to strike that balance and do it in the best way that they see possible and see fit. i think at the end of the day governors are going to be held responsible for this and certainly the president will be held responsible as well or where we end up in november in terms of how many jobs have we lost and where the economy is and how many lives have been lost. and, the president is suggesting

he was blocking that testimony in the house because he said they are full of trump haters on that committee. but, you open the door to testimony. on that decision, chuck schumer blasted the president today based on these projections which the president says of course were faulty. here is schumer, then we will give you a chance to react. >> the number of states, the number is not going down. no one speaks truth to power. he's wrong and we don't correct them. >> ed: questions for congress, how are you handling any number of issues but you can see the president frustrated not just with the lincoln project and some fellow republicans but democrats who he thinks basically are politicizing all of this when he's trying to fix it.

>> i'm not sure democrats are necessarily after answers in the truth as much as looking for opportunities for dr. fauci to contradict the president, and i think the president recognizes that. i do think, though, and i think the white house makes a good point. we don't have time for dr. fauci, he's busy trying to manage the pandemic, and days upon days answering questions. and frankly they are pretty good advocates for the administrations, to battle the pandemic. i've heard senate president concerns, and, the

senior administration officials told our colleagues the following. we need to make sure the task force members have the time they need to focus on the task at hand and the notion that once you say yes to the senate panel, then they will be other committees in either the senate or the house. dr. fauci and dr. burks, as you said, working on the pandemic. >> they do need to be focused on their jobs and that's ultimately the most important thing. they've also been at these briefings, and part of that is to communicate to the american people. they have certainly done that in

the press briefing setting. and so i think while there are reservations about the democra democrats, they will use those as political weapons and the oversight is part of that constitutional government. i think some of the fears about what might come out of these hearings might be misplaced because i think dr. fauci and dr. burks are actually very good and understand what's going on. >> ed: tom bevan, appreciate your insight this morning. >> sandra: a new warning about some masts just imported from china. why they could put front-line workers at risk. and meat is now in short supply at some supermarkets along with one very popular item at a big fast food chain.

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♪ >> people are panicking and they want to get as much meat as possible. i have people calling and asking for whole cows or 50 pounds of chicken and we just -- that's not what we do. >> sandra: and the reason for all that panic, buying a meat shortage which is leaving some grocery store shelves empty. and either removing burgers from their menus or warning that they do not contain brief. senator kevin cramer represents a critical situation. thanks so much for being here. so many of our viewers have been warned of this and been bracing for this because we heard from tyson and others that they had to shutter facilities because of

walker, coworkers getting sick. but now you have some of the big grocery store chains like costco limiting purchases of meat for the customers to three items and kroger putting warnings up about limited supply. are we facing a meat shortage as a country now? >> sandra, i think we are about in these extraordinary times you could certainly understand why that might be the case. and since many things came during the covid-19 pandemic, that's a much larger problem. have a real supply chain vulnerability once again. the fact is that 80% of the meat in the united states is processed by four companies and two of those companies are foreign owned. one is the largest pork processing company, smithfield, and the largest meat producing is busily known to so you see not only concentration of the

processing, but you also see the foreign ownership and vulnerability. when you look at the price, sandra, in january, the price of beef wasn't $125, and the price of steak was $2.14. then the price went down in march $288 but the price of the steak went up to $5.14. so you are seeing some games being played with both the pandemic and the vulnerability of our supply chain in his huge concentration of meat-packing. >> ed: so you want the department of justice to investigate and what you suggest is price-fixing that you just described. so you are calling for that. do you see that happening and ultimately what do you think they will find? >> it's a great question. are there antitrust violations here? is there that doesn't make sense

in the price goes down but the price of the end product goes up and the same entities sort of control the entire range of the supply chain up and down, upstream and downstream. we can't know that for sure, if there is an investigation going on because while we wrote a letter asking the justice department to look into this, they no longer can either confirm nor deny as a result of the fact that, if there was, it would be an active investigation. but i can't tell you that i did receive word that this week or last week from a sales barn in north dakota that they did receive an inquiry from the department of justice. i'm confident that they are at least looking into it. >> sandra: it's not as simple as the facilities shutting down, but that meat that we buy on our grocery store shelves? >> we certainly don't want to

see these facilities shutdown, we want to see them ramping back up or encouraged by the fact that it's happening. that happened during his short term but what i'm saying is there is a larger systemic problem when the point of demand and supply are not in sync. so when you see the price going down to the farmer or the rancher or the price going up to the consumer, that shows something watch, much more severe than simply a shortage of meat processing. >> sandra: all of this is being exposed because of the ongoing pandemic. they are getting the economy going again and now there is a big discussion about holding china accountable. here's what the president said at the fox news' town hall. i think it will be very conclusive.

>> president trump: it's like trying to put out a fire. there seems to be some conflicting messages, and we've seen evidence that points to this virus that lab in wuhan. meanwhile dr. fauci and a brand-new interview with nat geo saying he does not believe it spread from that lab. what are your thoughts on everything that we are learning? and the people in australia wrote about this, it's very revealing. both dr. fauci and others in the administration can be right. they can have an opinion as to how he thinks it was spread and then the evidence, with further

investigation, that it came from a lab. anand one thing seems to be certain, there is a lack of transparency. and the china has been much more open. now they are caught and that will bring on the wrath of the american people. and that is showing vulnerability and our supply chain can now we are learning about how communism works and how the state owned media operates.

>> sandra: with the 20 seconds or so that we have, i will ask the question that we've asked others this morning including alex azar. if there is evidence, and if we don't have that, let's share that with the world. that of course requires that. >> sandra: got it. senator cramer, thank you for your time this morning. >> my pleasure sandra. >> ed: a brand-new problem this morning involving personal protective equipment with states finding that some masts imported from china are defective and that now puts a front line

workers at risk. president trump weighing in on the issue before heading off to a tour of a mass production facility in arizona. listen. speak to they make the letter and 95, and they make them go to, not the ones that don't work, like we got sent from other countries. no, like other people got sent from other countries. we are making massive numbers of masts. >> ed: christine personnel the list is here with more. >> good morning. not like the president just mentioned officials have found a significant of masts that fall short of certification standards. the letter and 95 masts are spent supposed to filter out 95% of airborne particles but you have the national institute for occupational safety that tested almost 70 imported masts and found 60% of those masks fell short. they did not filter out the particles which is affecting our front-line workers including rich mckinnon who has been a firefighter for 24 years.

and, some departments feel they are going to have to lose these masts in a frontline response which is very concerning. it will support our members at risk, and it will increase our members getting sick. >> states are rushing to fill the void, and they spent close to $1 million importing mask from the whitey which is a chinese firm. they received masts and then they recalled them because several of them were faulty, which is why many volunteers now and that's a process to look through the suppliers.

as one project and he told me that they have been looking at many, many examples of imported masks and many just don't make the cut. >> i would say the majority that we see come from china or abroad. i would say at the upstart its manufacturing and especially those that are more of a bespoke type of capacity. >> designs of these defective or fake masts as they are called to come up there should not be color, patches or approval numbers, it should not say approved for children on the masts and the most important distinction as well is that the n95 mask should have a headband that goes around, as opposed to behind the air. >> ed: important information, christina. thank you. >> sandra: a message of

support for our front-line health care workers in the sky. you are looking live at the geico sky tapers who are writing messages of appreciation over the sky. these are world war ii airplanes that they are using to do this. you just saw the message they are, we salute our health care workers. so they are going to spend their day creating these unbelievable messages that you can step outside in westchester county, new jersey and other areas and see this remarkable effort to salute those health care workers for what they have been doing for so many weeks. and what a wonderful sight to see on this. >> ed: to sing world war ii planes to the greatest generation and an opportunity to remind all of us about coming together. we've been talking about coming together on this program for a long time and that's wonderful

to see. in the meantime carnival cruise lines announcing is going to set sail come coming back and setting sail on august 1st. how the company says it will protect passengers on cruises the summer. plus a venezuela's embattled leader nicolas maduro as he americans have been arrested, accused of what he calls a failed plan to overthrow him. the president said a short time ago that the u.s. government had nothing to do with it and we will have a live report come next. >> we don't believe he's a legitimate president. we will keep you posted on the venezuelan situation as it unfolds.

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bulls and bears. i took my daughter on a cruise last summer and i felt like it was safe, it was clean. if we a great time but it was a different world. >> it was a totally different world. this cdc initiated its no sale orders for all cruise ships worldwide back in march, march 15th. they expire on july 24th and carnival is only going to be testing the waters so to speak. they have 109 ships worldwide but they are only putting eight out in this trial run. we will see what happens as a result of it and i have to tell you the travel agent say they can book the cabins. in fact there's a backlog of people trying to get on cruise ships. it's extraordinary that there are people who are not afraid and i think most people would be in under the circumstances but there are a lot of folks who are

dedicated travelers. carnival really needs the cash, so to all companies who have been caught in this lockdown. but they are shares, the shares of the company are down 73% since january and they can't afford to dry-dock these big ships for long. they could probably do it for another six months or so but that's one reason why they are so anxious to get out. if there is an outbreak on one of the ships that goes out, there will be no sale orders once again and god knows when it will go back. >> ed: legacy cleanliness and safety and all those issues in grocery stores and whatnot, and they are supporting public health experts to manage the covid-19. we have more significant operations, and the cdc put out something, and the cdc, you look

at the track record over the first six months. of course they had that big kerfuffle over the testing, and a lot of companies in america. part of the reason you see stock markets doing so well, and because this is an issue of trial and error. the only time we will try to get through this thing, one thing we know is we cannot survive as a country with this lockdown. the state of georgia, even the president has criticized them. he said how do you shelter in place if you don't have a house to shelter in? there are millions of americans that are concerned that there won't be a job on the lockdown ends and they won't be able to

pay for a home whether it's rent or keeping up with the mortgage. the carnival cruise lines is just the tip of the iceberg because that's going to be one of the toughest industries to get back in because people are afraid of that. whether the people front, and i think the private companies are better than the cdc does. >> the dow is up again. people are going to get back in their cars, they might drive and businesses are going. it's a very mixed bag right now. >> keep in mind there are always bankruptcies going on and delta

and the united airlines and of course the gm famously went bankrupt, too. you can go bankrupt, file chapter 11 and come back and live another day. the retail industry, i think that the market is encouraged by the beginning of the opening and the possibility that america will be ready to go by the end of the summer. >> ed: it we will be watching you this afternoon. >> sandra: cruise lines preparing to set sail the summer once again despite thousands of people being stranded at sea due to outbreaks of the coronavirus. we will be speaking to one entertainer stuck off of the coast of barbados for months about his experience. we will have that for you, next.

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>> ed: you just heard us reporting about cruise lines planning to resume operations but some are still stuck at sea due to the pandemic. people like ryan does know mike driscoll who is a singer currently quarantined toward the seabourn odyssey off the coast of barbados. he joins us via skype. good morning ryan, hope you are doing all right. i read an account i think in "the new york times" saying that you were growing a beard because you ran out of razors a couple weeks ago but i guess you found a razor because you are clean clean shaven again. but the worst news of all, i heard you ran out of alcohol? >> yes, we were not allowed to have alcohol for a while, we were quarantined to our rooms were 18 days or a little longer and that was the only thing keeping me sane. >> so you had all this leftover food and eating steaks every night, and you are kind of running low obviously in all seriousness.

does it feel like groundhog day, you get up every day and do the same thing? >> i get up every day and do the same thing. i just got a shipment from another ship that's also anchored here and they gave us a bunch of food and toiletries and things and that's how i was able to shave. >> ed: tell us about the health situation. obviously we are having fun about the alcohol and the stakes, but people are wondering how cruise ships will be safe in the days ahead. have you been tested? what's happening with people? you are an entertainer, we will get to that in a moment but other crewmembers who were quarantined on the ship as well, are they healthy? how are they doing? okay, we might have lost you. ryan, can you still hear me? i see you nodding. >> everyone is healthy -- >> ed: ryan, we will try to get back to you. it sounds as if we may have lost

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>> ed: we were talking to ryan driscoll and there he is quarantined on a cruise ship off the coast of barbados. he's an entertainer and, just as i was asking you, a technology went down, bear with us. how is your health and how is everyone on the ship? >> we are healthy, no covid-19

cases here come up been quarantined for 18 days and out here for over 50 days. >> ed: we hope the best for everyone. i wonder, you're a crooner, i love sinatra, would you like to send a song over to my colleague sandra? >> here we go sandra, just for you. [singing" ♪ somewhere beyond the sea, my lover stands on golden sands and watch as the ships that are sailing ♪ >> ed: we love it. >> sandra: thank you, that was lovely. >> ed: our best wishes to you and everyone. ♪ >> sandra: well, that and of this, it may be, a sign of the times.

small businesses changing the way they are doing business. the founders of a start up company converting their driveway into a drive-through to hand out free samples in sealed single use containers all within social distancing guidelines. ian and margaret join us now via skype. good morning to both of you and thanks so much for being here. >> good morning. >> i have so much enjoyed following your story and reading about this wonderful company that you started before the pandemic hit. you are up and running and doing great, and then coronavirus came. so, how are you guys doing today in adapting to the environment? >> i think fortunately for us we are a small business and for us it's being nimble, being smart and adapting. figuring out that resampling is something we can no longer do for the foreseeable future so let's get creative. we've just been adapting.

>> sandra: so we've got video up of this drive-through you've set up in your westchester home which is just north of new york city and you've got free samples for everyone to come through and get the serial. i understand it's high-protein, low sugar and grain free and made of p proteins and tapioca. so what response have you gotten from those driving through? >> fortunately when you hear about the ingredients, and chickpea is another ingredient. you don't think it's going to be a delicious breakfast cereal which is why sampling is such a a big part of getting people to try it. we worked on this for two years and people tasted and they are like, how does it taste so good? it took a lot of years to make a low sugar and high protein product. >> i see some delivery took place for some health care workers as well and we got some

pictures there. so how are you safely in the era of social distancing getting the cereal into the hands of those that drive by? we see people pulling up in their face masks. >> we are massed and gloved and we were using tongs to kind of get it over that car door handle to hand motion and keeping as much distance as we can and really using all food and safety guidelines that we use all the time. >> you wash your hands 24/7, and it's a really neat story. it's a really neat story and, making lemonade from these lemons. in those pictures are really something. it's a husband and wife team. how do you think you will come out of this? do you think you will get the company up and running again

soon? some of our time blinds got pushed back but for instance we will be on whole foods in the hole in the northeast region starting in june and already starting in southern california. and i think people are still looking for healthier options then unhealthy stuff >> you are a good team. thank you for your time this morning and our best to you and your company. >> thank you so much. >> ed: fox news alert, the governor of new york andrew cuomo addressing the media again. hospitalizations, new ones continue to come down and there are still hopeful optimistic signs and, he did add yesterday there were 230 deaths in new york which is up slightly from that year before when there

were 296. also, this is the president saying that he doesn't understand how it went from 60,000 projected to 130,000 and he compared it to weather projections. >> the governors are in charge, governors are in charge. i can only be in charge --

>> sandra: fox news alert, two americans among 13 people

arrested in venezuela after what socialist leader at nicolas maduro called a "failed coup attempt." phil keating's live in miami with the latest details. hey, phil. >> hi, sandra. venezuela's socialist leaders have made anti-u.s. claims in the past, typically with scant evidence and widely viewed as propaganda. he has a fresh one. according to the venezuelan government, a small band of mercenaries tried to invade the south american country, included in the band allegedly is to u.s. citizen mercenaries, for military men, all in an effort to topple the socialist government. embattled president nicolas maduro retweeted out this video of the alleged surrender on fishing boats as the helicopter flew ahead. he also rode that eight mercenaries were captured and handed over to the will of our international armed force. the maduro regime announced that they had been on trust boats at they reached a coastal town 20 miles north of the capital.

they claim to have killed eight insurgents and invested to, those being the americans. according to the el nuevo herald, a captive confirmed this is all part of a plan to do reconnaissance inside the country for a larger force of 200 men and several areas of venezuela, allegedly trained by a former u.s. army green beret. all working to overthrow the socialist regime and install a democratic one. maduro expectedly blamed the u.s. on the trump administration for the alleged coup d'etat effort. the u.s. and about 50 other countries don't recognize maduro as venezuela's legitimate president, saying he rigged his reelection. the man recognizes venezuela's legitimate president's opposition leader juan guaido. the u.s. state department has not commented on medeiros fresh claims of the incident in general, and the u.s. has stopped ultimate delectable medic ties last year.

sandra? >> sandra: phil keating left for miami this morning. phil, thank you. that does it for us. live from -- oh, yes? >> ed: i want to end with some good news. your mom and i share this love of coffee cake. i've been contacted by another bakery, this one in massachusetts, which says they have the best recipe. ahead of mother's day, may be on friday, i will reveal the recipe, mom. >> sandra: can't wait. thanks for joining us, everybody. "outnumbered" starts now. >> melissa: fox news alert for you now, president trump sanding off as congressional democrats ramp up demands for coronavirus task force to testify. the president himself explaining the decision to block dr. anthony fauci's appearance before the house subcommittee last week, but signaled the nation's top infectious disease doctor will take questions in the senate. watch. speak of the house is a set up. the house is a bunch of trump haters. they put every trumped hater and

the committee. the same