events on instagram live at 7:00 p.m. eastern. that will be very good. and my day is not over, i will see you on "the five," no doubt will be some ♪ speaker thank you, dana. i'm bill hemmer. president trump arrived in phoenix, arizona. fox news now confirming the coronavirus task force will wind down in the coming weeks. more on that. see you in a moment. president trump now makes his major trip out of washington since the country went on lockdown. we expect to hear from him shortly. we'll bring that to you live when it comes to us from phoen phoenix. in the meantime, president was speaking with reporters. >> we are going to see

honeywell. they've done a fantastic job on many different projects on the pandemic. we are going to pay our respects and also see the great people of arizona. >> bill: more on that in a moment. a lot of questions for karl ro karl rove. hey, jeff. >> hey, bill. yeah, this is really the first trip president trump has taken across the country in nearly two months since the pandemic really started to intensify. end of all places, he chose arizona in this honeywell facility to help symbolize that he believes this country is ready to begin reopening. >> i'm going there for two core reasons. i love arizona. i have a lot of friends in arizona. i've had great success over the years in arizona. and i'm going to pay my respects to honeywell, one of our great companies that has done a fantastic job for us. so i look forward to it. >> what makes this facility

significant is that it is 1 of 2 honeywell locations helping produce millions of masks for health responders and health care workers who are on the front lines. honeywell, in march, it was further expanding its production of respirator masks come up which at the time, president trump said they were written down my fulfilling patriotic duty. the president will also join a roundtable discussion regarding support for americans during the coronavirus crisis. now, one of the big crisis done my questions is will president trump wear a mask? he touched on that just before leaving arizona is. >> i haven't decided, because i don't know. if it's a mask environment, i will certainly do that. if it's a mask environment, i would have no problem. if i'm supposed to make a speech, you tell me. should i leave the mask on while i'm speaking? i don't know. if it's a mask environment, i would wear a mask.

>> now, unlike the last time president trump was in arizona, this won't be a campaign event or any sort of rally happening here in the grand canyon state. it's going to be a rather quick trip, just under three hours, according to the schedule. and we are being told that medics are on hand to give testing to anyone who might come in contact with president trump during this visit. bill. >> bill: thank you. back to you in a moment here. in the meantime. >> i respect the governors and i've given them great discreti discretion. if, however, i see somebody doing something that's egregious or wrong, i will stop it in two seconds. >> bill: part of that conversation, different states, different rules. is this now the beginning of a new phase in the covid-1 covid-9 pandemic? nice to see you. we will see you in person someday. i do trust, i do believe that shall happen. i was with the president in the rose garden on the 24th of march and he was talking about reopening america by

easter sunday. how important is it for this trip to get out of washington? >> i think it's good for the president to be seen elsewhere in the country and gives us a little bit of a sense of normality. i think it's also important, because it helps him herald the things that are being done to confront this. we all want to know that things are moving in the right direction and going to arizona to show that a great american company has taken a facility and repurposed it for the correction of protective gear for health care professionals is i think a good signal of what is happening. it's also interestingly enough, taking time while he's on the ground to meet with leaders of the native tribes, the american indian tribes in the state who play, i don't know, even surprised by this, play a politically important role in a politically important state. there's a little bit of useful politics being done. >> bill: okay, so when you

think about the news in the white house, a moment ago, we are going to wrap up this coronavirus task force. apparently, there is some planning to wind it down by the end of this month. smart idea? >> well, my senses will continue. we may not have the full blown task force, but we are still going to have it operating working out things like vaccines and therapies and conformity to the phase program that the president laid out earlier last month. so, i'm not certain exactly what the impact is going to be. because clearly, the cdc and the nih and the white house are going to continue to be deeply involved, and hhs, deeply involved in planning, overseeing, monitoring, and preparing for the next steps that need to be taken to overcome this virus. >> bill: this was from the "wall street journal" today. the governors are doing different things at different times. he did tell mike here was the e.

target lockdown's are better. protect the most vulnerable, but don't put the entire state in economic storage in the name of false saving lives and saving money." that seems to be the debate that's happening all across the country. where'd you come down on that? >> welcome a interesting story by some economist at mit where they basically suggested let's take every 165 years and older d and in place and let younger and middle-aged people return to their work. they see this is a better way to get the economy started and they've got some models that show that we will have less unemployment and a lot more economic growth if we do this. on the other hand, it's all one-size-fits-all. i'm not sure that everybody 65 years and older is going to say i'm content to sit at home and wait. so, a nice study pointing us in potentially the right direction. let's pay attention to the more vulnerable and expose people in our society. i'm not certain this one-size-fits-all, everybody 65

plus stay home come everybody under the age of 65 can return. i'm not even sure if the economist who did the study recommended it be done that way peer but they were showing that there's a difference between somebody who has little chance f dying from this than someone who has a much higher chance of dying. i think it was 1.8% overall, but under this model, it would be 1%. so, you are cutting the number of deaths almost in half. >> bill: we are less than six months away from an election and kevin said from the white house earlier today that he expects unemployment on friday to be north of 16%. think about that right now. joe biden still is in delaware. david axelrod wrote in "the new york times" here this is part of what they said peered he said, "what biden has to do to be trump's he has to find a way to get beyond the tapes and project himself into our evermore digital world. i'm not asking to give him

advice, but there are a lot of recommendations. what does joe biden do now that the president has broken the seal of sorts by going to arizona? >> well, maybe he can find a way to do some of this in a limited fashion as well. but look, remember, the president is going to arizona in order to draw attention to success. honeywell has repurposed an aerospace factory and turned it into making critical protective gear. if biden travels, he's going to have a similar oomph. he's going to have a similar strong message to whatever that event is. he can't simply show up and picked the name of a battleground state and say, "i'm here. i want to talk to you." i think this was built into the memo, or to the piece by david axelrod, namely that he needed to have a message. they talked about content. they talked about it in terms, not only of the media makers, the people who make the ads and the digital content, but i think

there were also suggesting the candidate himself, he's got to have a strong message. their message was a suggestion that he go on the offense. attack trump in whatever way and shape and form he can. maybe that's a useful way to go. on the other hand, i think people want to know that 80, we are going to turn to something that looks more normal than the politics of last four years per second of all, he's got a vision. attacking trump each and every day, i'm not sure it sincerely gives him an oomph. >> bill: thank you, sir. karl rove. we will take our viewers there here thank you, sir. very much. in the meantime, here in new york. covid-19 has now killed more people in nursing homes than we know about. the governor's office not reported more than 1700 previously undisclosed deaths at northinnursing homes. laura ingalls at a nursing center in long island, new york. outside of the city.

laura. >> hey bill. well, yet another staggering number to try to comprehend during this crisis. it shows us that there are far more elderly people who have died in the last two months in the state of new york. new facts coming out this week. a new york governor, andrew coverecuomo, previously undiscld deaths at nursing homes, which includes people believed to have died by covid-19 before their diagnosis could be confirmed by a lab test. now, and today's press briefing, cuomo says his team is still working on the best way to tackle the ongoing issue of how to keep vulnerable seniors safe in facilities that have increasing cases while managing visitation concerns. ppe and testing shortages in some areas. >> what can you do better going forward? i -- i don't know. it's something we are starting.

we are also doing an investigation with the attorney general to look at it. we did some very harsh things here that frankly i wasn't even comfortable with, but the health experts insisted. >> the updated number still has some brain areas, because the list doesn't include nursing home residents who were transferred to hospitals before dying. one group representing hundreds of nurses and care providers say supplies are still needed. >> we continue to have shortages, but we address them on a daily basis and continue to work. we are going to have to continue to do this if we are going to beat this virus. >> meanwhile, at least 15 states have enacted laws to help protect nursing homes from either criminal prosecution or civil cases, alleging inadequate care during this crisis. they are trying to protect themselves the best they can. >> bill: thank you.

more to matt, certainly. meanwhile, in texas, the number of confirmed cases growing as more businesses reopen. when the early days of phase one are telling us there. the world health organization is now asking for treatment to be made widely available. we will talk to one of the lead scientist on the clinical trial. also, the senate, holding its first major hearing two months today. john ratcliffe, that man was in the hot seat. china was front and center. roy is our guest coming up on that, shortly. >> i view china has the greatest threat right now. i mean, look at where we are with respect to covid-19 and the role that china plays, the race to 5g. cyber security issues. all roads lead to china. ♪

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it's supposed to be. stephen, who is the administrator for medicare, medicaid services, was there as well. the big headline didn't come out of the briefing. we were talking about that development of the manhattan project. they are saying it could possibly be done. the headline popped and we asked the vice president about it regarding the coronavirus task force winding down sometime within the next month. the president did confirm that they've been having preliminary discussions about that. he hopes sometime around memorial day or maybe the beginning of june they could begin to wind down the task force and hand the work

that the task force was doing over the various agencies. fema, hhs would take the lead in all of this. we asked what happened to dr. birx, which she still be around? the president promised that she is probably the most valuable member of the team and she will continue to play a role in going ahead and fighting the coronavirus. this all coming, bill, as new projections show that the decline in infections and the decline in deaths isn't as quick as it had believed to be earlier and that this may drag out through the entire summer. >> bill: john, also there something crossing now, but a whistle-blower who apparently said there was some sort of threat about hydroxycholoroquine. there was some advice to use it. others said not so fast. what are you hearing about that right now? >> this is the former deputy secretary for hhs, he was in charge of something called bar barta. he was basically the head of vaccine development at hhs. he condemned that a whistle-blower complaint was just filed and just left the conference call about it and talk to everyone about it. he alleges that a complaint that he was transferred from his very prominent position as the head

of barda over a less prominent position because he was at odds with the program that the white house was pushing and that was to develop hydroxycholoroquine in treatments for coronavirus, where he thought that the billions of dollars that were being thrown were to what he called "proven medical technology and pharmaceuticals." he is also alleging in this whistle-blower complaint that hhs was ignoring things with solid scientific evidence behind them and engaging in what he said was cronyism among people who were politically connected. they are just getting to that part of the complaint in the conference call. we will listen to more of it. >> bill: okay. thank you so much for that. for the update, john roberts, north lawn. i want to get to these fbi documents now. did a government processor, prosecutor fully comply with tht order? what did you find out?

>> well hey, bill. michael flynn's attorney says that exculpatory evidence exists. he has pleaded guilty twice to the same crime. he has since withdrawn that plea. in fact, he wants his entire case thrown out. attorney general, bill barr is re-examining the case. last week, the department of justice released internal fbi notes. the final page of those notes, bill, and handwriting discusses getting him to live so that he can be prosecuted or fired. for context, this all happened just four days after president trump took the oath of office. the final page of fbi notes is handwritten by former fbi intelligence member. what's our goal? truth, admission, or to get him to live so we can prosecute him or get him fired? a news memo calls into question whether a justice department prosecutor and former member of special counsel, robert mueller

complied with a judges order order to produce evidence, exculpatory evidence that favors him. i want to read a statement from the fbi. this is defending him here he has taken a lot of hits lately. he remains firmly committed to addressing the failures under prior fbi leadership while maintaining the principles of ownership of fulfilling the mission to protect the american people and defend the constitution." he was not the director when all this went down with michael flynn in early 2017. when asked if he would pardon michael flynn, president trump said he would rather see him exonerated. >> bill: more to come on that. thank you so much. as you were talking, president trump came off air force one. we will not miss this event. when it gets underway, we will take you there in a moment to phoenix, arizona. also, in arizona, they are taking a stand. two arizona sheriffs said that they will not punish people who violate the stay-at-home order.

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♪ >> bill: the president in phoenix, arizona, going to bring you that event in moments. visiting with native americans. stay tuned for that. meanwhile, also in that state, the republican governor says that those who violate his stay-at-home order could face up to six months behind bars and a $2500 fine. two sheriffs say they will not enforce the penalty. that lies between tucson and phoenix, where president trump is right now. a million people in that county reported 478 cases. 15 deaths so far. our clam is the sheriff of that county. so sir

, >> good afternoon, bill. thanks for having me. >> bill: you have a good relationship with the governor? >> i do paired we get along very well. we just disagree on this one. >> bill: what's your case? >> this whole pandemic, its crazy times. we've gotten into some very murky waters as a relates to the constitution. we have seen across the country where i think there has been some clear constitutional violations. as sheriffs, our responsibility is that we take an oath to the united constitution of the united states. i felt like an order like this to arrest people, to cite them, was going too far. we are going to god and continue to educate these people. that's our duty. we are going to warn them. we are going to advise them. but i don't think it's conducive to arrest them, cite them, and find them. >> not for that.

people still go to jail in our county. just not for that. >> bill: smart clarification. what has the governor said about your resistance customer >> you come i haven't heard from the governor. i did reach out to him the first night i did an interview. i just expressed my -- this is nothing personal. this is just a disagreement on this, where we are at here. i think we've got to get businesses back. we are dealing with the public safety aspect of people being out of work. increased domestic violence, increased neighbor problems, and the intensity of the calls that are going on. we've been in more fights with people the last couple weeks than we have over the last six months and it's hurting my deputies, and so we've got to get people back to what they know, back to paying their bills, and most of the decisions being made across this country by government people are made by people who collect a paycheck every two whole weeks. i'm here to speak up for the people who have invested their lives into their businesses who need to go out and work to pay their bills and to put food on

their table, and we got to start thinking of those people. it does come with some risks. >> bill: there is risk. i just wonder how you manage that. i guess you take it a case at a time, but you heard the numbers i just read off here. you walk the line between what is constitutional in your view and what is safety for the people living in your county. >> yeah, it's a tough one, and there are people that are going to be angry with what i have to say, the stance i've taken. there are also people that are glad we are standing up for the constitution and their rights. we deal with risk every day, especially in this profession. right now, you are three times more likely to die in an automobile accident than you are from covid. having sayin said that, my hears out to anyone who has risked a loved one. >> bill: sheriff, thank you for your time. we will see how it goes and we will stay in contact. mark lam. thank you for your time. this is from the governor in new york. >> there is no doubt that we are

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♪ >> how much do we think a human life is worth? does the cost of staying closed, economic cost, personal cost, there is also a cost of reopening quickly. either option has a cost. >> bill: near governor, andrew cuomo saying parts of the state

could start reopening in phases next week. but only if it is safe. miller reports from the streets of manhattan. >> bill, the elated numbers show that another 230 new yorkers lost their life to the virus in just over a 24-hour span. the trend has been declining, but that number did spike from the previous day. now, the shutdown of nonessential businesses has devastated both the city and state budgets. may mayor bill de blasio said there would be no financial aid package for blue states, which is new york. >> this morning, i woke up to this. the president of the united states, a former new yorker, who seems to enjoy stabbing his hometown in the back, talking about no bailout for new york.

>> near governor, andrew cuomo urged president trump to not stand in the way of helping new york recover. it stands in effect until may 18. the governor has not offered a timeline. he does say reopening the state will be gradual and regional based on specific health criteria. here at mount sinai hospital, there appears to be some optimism. at the height of the pandemic just a few weeks ago, the lobby of the building was reported. this week, the temporary facilities are being dismantled. governor cuomo says the latest possible admissions for people suffering from this coronavirus continues to decline, but at the same time, the death rate simply unacceptable. >> bill: david lee, thanks for that. david lee miller here in new york city. you have likely heard of the first treatment approved by the fda. doctor from emory university,

doctor, thank you for your time. i know a lot of people are looking for this. have we put too much hope in this treatment, dr.? what you think so far? >> well, thank you. we do know though we have data that is promising. but it is showing that we are able to get persons of covid-19 home to their families a little bit earlier than the wonderful state of care that we are giving them in the hospital. but we need to look at the bigger data set to see what the impact really will be. and importantly, which patients it will help the most. >> bill: what i understand is that it will slow down the growth of the cells. that's what helps the patient recover. what have you learned about th this? >> one a virus enters the body, it attacks our cells and uses the cell's own machinery to make more of itself. this medicine works by stopping

that process so that the virus cannot make more of itself. it allows the immune system and the rest of the body to catch up to help kill the virus and get it out of the body. >> bill: okay. are you optimistic? is this the miracle we've been hoping for, doc? what you think so far customer >> i don't think it's a magic bullet by any means. but it is a sign of hope, that we can add something to the magical hope that these nurses and doctors are providing every day to our patients to help you patients more rapidly, and therefore, prevent some of the complications of being in the hospital, and also open up more hospital beds so they can take care of more patients. also take care of patients with other medical issues as well. i think we will learn more in the future, but we are seeing some optimism. >> bill: the world health organization put out a plea saying, "share it with the world."

can we do that? will we do that? >> welcome one of the wonderful things about the silver linings about this outbreak is that the entire world healt health care organization along with communities around the world have been working together to help our patients, learn from each other. and i hope we will continue to not only share our knowledge, but share our tools so that we can get patients better and then decrease the outbreak and prevent the spread. >> bill: doctor, do you work on this a couple years ago with ebola? i just wonder if you are able to put it in simple terms, why it is shown to be effective in back-to-back pandemics over a period of four years? what makes that possible? >> so, this medication was originally developed for hepatitis c. it didn't have a lot of activity. it did show some activity against the ebola virus.

by the time i got to clinical trials, there were other medications. there was some data that showed that it had activity to kill the original sars virus. therefore, we brought it back out so that we could use it in this trial. >> bill: one more question on that. when the coronavirus is all over the world, do you think of it immediately? is that where your mind one? >> many of us did early on. fortunately, we have a wonderful national institutes of health that thought of this as well and very quickly put together this very important clinical trial that allowed us to look at it, not only here in the united states, but multiple places in the world. so, while we had that thought, we were able to implement this study so rapidly. >> bill: keep going, okay? we need you. okay?

thank you, doctor. in a moment here, he could be america's next top spy. senator roy blunt led part of that questioning. the senator's live coming up next. ♪

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♪ >> i view china as the greatest threat right now. i mean, look at where we are with respect to covid-19 and the role that china plays, the race to 5g, cybersecurity issues. all roads lead to china. >> bill: one of the main highlights right there. he says that china is at the top of this list of threats to the u.s. the senate intel committee. republican on the committee was on the road. senator, thank you for your time and good afternoon to you. >> thank you, bill. good to be with you. >> what do you make of that comment about all roads leading to china? >> well, i think it's about time we figure that out. almost all of the focus

initially and for some time after that was our terrorist enemies. a big competitor economically and in every other way that is once again one of the things we need to be most concerned about, and i think both the funding and that effort against that particular threat as well as from iran and russia, but china is a much bigger long-term threat than either of them. the funding in that effort, how much of our reese' resources are dedicated. i thought the nominee did a good job handling that. >> bill: senator, now the president has a big decision to make. he suggested that china new more than it told. what does the commander in chief do in the midst of this relationship when the evidence

is clear for so many? >> well, i think the relationship is obviously in a different place than it was with president trump. i don't think that that was the reason the chinese did what we believe they did recently in covering up the problem they were having, the hoarding of the kind of personal protective equipment that we had a hard time getting, as did every other country in the world. i think the president has generally been very tough in his relationship with china. very tough that our jobs have gone there and we've become too dependent on them and too many ways. that encourages. well, the world health organization clearly has problems here. part of it is these authoritarian governments just don't tell the truth, whether it china or russia or iran or other

authoritarian governments. at the same time, we need an organization like the world health organization to work. i think this is the time were we decide this is the world health organization we are going to be a part of. what is the replacement? clearly, one thing that the covid-19 shows us is that we are not isolated from the west of the world. whether it's ebola in africa, we have to have some world health agency that we are part of, because we can't be that agency all by ourselves. but we have some obligation to protect ourselves and those things that happen in other places. >> bill: senator, it just seems like the relationship with the chinese communist party, the government, and the world health organization, they have reached very tender moments and how we get through these will tell us a lot about how we come out on the other side.

one of these conversations like among your colleagues about how to do that successfully for the future of the country? >> well, what we've been saying for several years now in the last decade, we've seen china take over organizations at the u.n. on human rights and other things. their influence with other countries that they've been able to buy and other incentives for those countries to agree with them have been a real problem. this is a different problem than it was ten years ago. when the president came into office three years ago, a lot of this was already very much in place, because we've taken this attitude for almost a decade that it didn't matter somehow what china was doing at the u.n. and what china was doing at the world health organization and how china was ignoring other worldwide norms and standards. the president has talked about this from day one. i think the american people have

finally come around to the understanding that there was real meaning in these concerns about china, that they intend to be a major competitor militarily and in every other way. we had to take us just as seriously as they do. >> bill: it's a big deal. thank you for coming on. nice to see you again. >> it great to see you. >> bill: meanwhile, we are watching this event. president trump is in arizona visiting a honeywell factory. he will speak there in a few moments. so, we will take you there live when it gets underway. meanwhile, we will check in with mexican restaurant chain getting ready to reopen its dining rooms as people celebrate today, cinco de mayo. ♪ ♪ limu emu & doug

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>> good afternoon, we are monitoring our press conference that's being held in austin by governor greg. the first press conference since he announced phase 1 of the reopening of the economy slowly but surely. right now he's giving a little bit of a progress report on that. and he's also talking about a large increase in the number of testing that's being performed across the state. as that happens, the governor said the overall percentage of tests that are starting to come back positive has dropped to its lowest level in more than a month. however, just last week, the state did report its highest death count in a single day since this outbreak began in reports of new positive cases jumped 24% compared to the previous week. the governor has all along warned of larger case numbers as testing capacity is dramatically wrapped up. the new hot zones emerging in texas aren't in places like

dallas and houston, rather rural community. he sitting in a team of experts including the national guard to help contain those outbreaks. there has been some growing concern over some texans not following the proper social distancing guidelines. look at this video. beaches were busy this weekend. south of houston, local leaders say attendance was that of a typical holiday weekend with folks packed in so tightly in certain spots that it was impossible to maintain that safe distance of 6 feet. the governor is giving us a press conference right now. we are on it, we are monitoring and will keep you posted. >> bill: thank you. restaurants in that state getting back to business. among them on the board are mexican grill and cantina. starting tomorrow the chain reopens 45 restaurants in five states. cinco de mayo today. how are you doing? good afternoon to you.

i want to go -- thank you. new rules, hand sanitizers throughout the restaurant, high contact areas cleaned every minutes. disposable menus. no bar service. are people going to show up? what you think? speak to it has been really important for all of us to go with the right to -- cinco de mayo in texas has been open since may 1st. we made a conscious decision not to open until tomorrow, may 6th. we know that it is important to rebuild the trust the public has been going out and being safe. even when we reopen tomorrow, we are going to do so with our dining rooms only open at dinner monday through friday. we know that the guests are coming back and we will see them slowly start to come back to the restaurants. we will be them for dinner monday through friday and 11 to nine on the weekend. >> bill: it's a big week. how are you feeling so many

weeks later? did you get the chance to get a new breath in texas? >> is something we've all been looking forward to for quite some time. we've been preparing a put a new safety considerations in place. getting our team members rehir rehired. i can't stress enough how great it is to be welcoming them back and being ready to welcome bac back -- >> bill: to be due at the right way or did we overdo it? >> we've talked often about the fact there is no plan book. we're writing it. we've all done our best. we've all tried to get it right along the way. i think this next phase is the most important. we take our time, that we are thoughtful about reopening. we do it in a way to keep our team members and guests safe so that we don't go backwards. that's what's most important right now. >> bill: well stated. good luck tomorrow. thank you for being here. and to you as well.

if the president continues his tour in phoenix, arizona. we will bring you headlights and highlights when they become available. in the meantime, set your dvr and never miss a report. 3:00 eastern monday through friday. we will see you tomorrow. enjoy. >> neil: all right, we are waiting here from the president of the united states. he's touring the honeywell plant in arizona that's making the n95 masks. the separate event and of course one trip to camp david in the better part of six weeks. we are monitoring all of that. the president meets with local officials as well as native americans. we will take you there. all of this on the same day. we had news from the united states that 70,000 who have died in this country from the coronavirus. first now to phoenix with jeff at that plant. >> a dozen or