i think you come andy mccarthy. i'm sure everyone here listening and watching today will continue to stay with fox news and this breaking news, the justice department deciding to drop the case against michael flynn. lots more to come today. i'll see you on the five a little bit later on. in the meantime, here's bill hemmer. >> bill: dana, thank you. good afternoon, i'm bill hemmer. we will talk to the former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley, donna brazile, and timothy cardinal dolan on this the national day of prayer. at first however, we begin with the breaking news and there's a lot of it in the past hour alone. here we go, the justice department dropping their criminal case against former national security advisor michael flynn, a stunning reversal in one of the key cases brought by bob mueller's investigation awaiting word from the president on this at this hour, at this moment he is meeting with the texas governor greg abbott in the oval office.

we will bring you headlines from that as we get it in the playback will occur this hour so stay tuned. first, special report anchor bret baier to get some reaction on this. good afternoon to you. at the moment, reading some questions inside the oval office, the president says he's very happy for flynn, we are advised a federal judge still has to sign off on this recommendation on behalf of the doj. nonetheless, this is moving quickly at this hour. your reaction? >> this is exponentially better for michael flynn then a pardon would have been because it clears the deck. does not have with it some thought that he would still be prosecuted. this is as we suspect that the prosecution is completely dropping everything, that is a big win for michael flynn after years of being in the crosshairs of the justice department for lying to fbi agents. but once the documents came out

about what those agents were saying and what peter strzok was saying in the lead up to that interview, it change the dynamic completely, and obviously this changes the entire case. >> bill: you think about some of the documents that came out from this house probe overnight, we woke up to headline suggesting the collusion case came up empty. this is just more of a piled on, this will will russia matter, and it appears that all of this russia stuff is just going up in smoke. >> think about it, there was cross fire you name it, a cross fire element to the thought that there was a tie between the trump campaign and russia with the election. specifically targeting some of those folks for that connection. that came up empty as far as we can see, and despite the significant aspects of the mueller report that deal with russia trying to influence the election and interfere in the

election, the fact that there is not this other element to it and other parts are falling apart is significant and we expect this to be a political baton for the president to mention again and again. >> bill: one more thing, there's another headline from bob mueller, fact some of these documents reveal the probe went much further beyond the initial statement for the known mandate. begs the question, what was bob mueller doing this whole time and where they out there looking for something that never existed? where they trying to find a crime? where they could not find one? >> we are in the middle of dealing with covid and all of the health crisis and economic crisis, but if you look back and you realize when bob mueller and his team knew that there was nothing there, it was before the midterm election.

and that raises its own questions about where that investigation went and how it proceeded. >> bill: with regard to this pardon, the question that came to the president about a week ago, will you pardon general flynn, he said that he does not believe that will be necessary. perhaps he had an indication as to whether or not some of the lead prosecutors and the department of justice were going to recommend that he drop the case against michael flynn. they knew that we could go, it came true today pending this federal judge's ultimate decision. >> the president is probably going to tout this. there are other questions about pardons of roger stone and paul manafort and those are different situations individually, but michael flynn if you look back to the beginning and all that he's been through throughout this case, this is the best possible version of how this goes down if

the doj drops it. >> bill: thank you. i believe the phrase from last week would be that would not be necessary so we'll get reaction from him on that. that meeting in the oval office continues again as we mentioned, headlines in a moment. also with former deputy independent counselor during the whitewater investigation, good afternoon to you. i know it's news that is just breaking right now, your initial reaction if indeed the case is dropped for good. >> i think my initial reaction is it's a very good move, and i'm looking at the statement from the justice department today after rick considered the facts of the case including newly discovered and disclosed information, they decided to drop the case, they say that the interview by the fbi of flynn was untethered to an unjustified by the fbi's counterintelligence

investigation into mr. flynn which by the way -- and they say it was conducted without any legitimate basis, and that's totally true. it's what i've been writing about. they use the logan act, an act that hadn't been utilized since 1850 keep open a phony investigation on general flynn after they had already completely cleared him in the russia collusion investigation and crossfire hurricane. keep in mind, there was never an allegation even within the fbi that general flynn had been involved in any collusion with the russian government to affect the election in 2016. >> bill: so can you help us understand why general flynn goes before a judge and pleads guilty? why was that necessary? >> it's a very good question, and people do it all the time -- not all the time, but it's much more common than you think in

the federal criminal justice system, and the reason they do it is because they can't afford to go to trial. what i mean by that is they are in essence coerced by threat against family members or we are going to prosecute you for something more serious. in general flynn's case from what we understand, they threatened to prosecute his son for an unspecified offense, and they also said we are going to prosecute you for violations of foreign agents registration act and other such things. so you bring up a very important point, and i think it's a point that brett didn't quite cover and why more needs to be done in this case, and that is that he still is vulnerable. because general flynn pled guilty, he said under oath i did lie. i intentionally lied.

in my interview with the fbi. so he made that statement under oath in late 2017. so he is still vulnerable. i hate to be a conspiracy theorist the let's say that president trump does not win reelection and that there is a president biden in the oval office, he could actually be -- for general flynn be indicted for lying to judge sullivan. so i believe you should also be pardoned. >> bill: so on that point, you told us we could ago on this program that you cannot just withdraw a guilty plea in a federal court. and that's what you are alluding to hear, right? >> on his own, he cannot withdraw a guilty plea. now, that's a different question from whether or not from what judge sullivan is going to do here. it's a practical matter. i'm unaware of any federal judge

in history who says we are dropping this case. and said no, you're not. but i would watch the judge carefully and watch what he's saying. he clearly has shown that he is not crazy about the general and he's not crazy. >> bill: so a federal judge has to sign off on the recommendation that is being suggested on behalf of the department of justice, correct on that? >> yes, but i would call that a ministerial matter. there is no way that it's going to be prosecuted as long as general barr is there, but keep an eye on judge sullivan and there's more stuff that is going to be disclosed. is very clear that there are more documents coming out and i don't think they are going to make the special counsel's office look good, and i don't think they're going to make the fbi look good at all. >> bill: thank you for that. and jumping on the phone as we continue to get immediate reaction for the headlines.

that were revealed about 30 minutes ago, the department of justice now suggesting the case against general michael flynn should be dropped altogether. we are advised on behalf of our legal eagles in washington, d.c., that a federal judge has to accept that but as wise and berg just points out there, he would expect that to happen. we will keep our ears out for and more news on this because the president is now meeting in the oval office with the texas governor. we do expect to have tape play out from that this hour, so stand by. we'll bring that to you. on the meantime, on the phone with me now was casey mcfarlane who served as national deputy security advisor under general flynn in the first few months of the west wing and the trump administration going back to january of 2017. good afternoon to you. >> it's a great day for the republic, it really is. >> bill: you were there when this all went down, you wrote a book about it, your reaction for them the news of the department of justice? >> it's about time, my

assumption is the justice department has determined that there are an awful lot more incriminating documents that are going to come out about the people who are at the very top of the justice department and the fbi and potentially in other intelligence agencies or even in the obama white house who were involved in this. as i've said from the beginning and i wrote about in great length in my book exactly what happened to general flynn and exactly what happened to me. the fbi treated me the same way they did flynn showing up unannounced, suggesting i didn't need a lawyer and yet the whole time were setting him up and setting me up for a perjury trap where they trick you into making a tiny little mistake in your statement where you say it was tuesday morning and it turned out it was wednesday afternoon, and then they can pounce and say that's perjury. but there's something more sinister about what they did which is that they blackmailed him and they threatened to charge his son unless he pled guilty to a crime he didn't

commit. >> bill: two questions. did you expect this move today or where you catching wind of this at all? >> i thought it was getting near to the point where something was going to break, whether the judge was going to throw out the case. i honestly didn't think it was going to be the justice department. in essence admitting that they did something wrong. >> bill: then another question for you. all the matters surrounding russia, where are they now or have they appeared to have gone up in smoke in washington, d.c.? >> it was all a scam from the very beginning. when i was with general flynn and president-elect trump and met with the intelligence director's on january 6 in trump tower which is when james comey first told the president-elect about the steele dossier, they knew at the time that it was russian disinformation. they knew it was a fake thing, but they seized on it as an to

investigate flynn and trump and a number of other people, and their plan all along is i certainly experienced it personally was to try to trick people into committing some crime or something that they could claim was perjury and then try to force you to turn on others. they made it very clear to me that they expected me to plead guilty to a crime i didn't commit or to implicate flynn and president-elect trump and president trump and crimes i didn't think they committed. and if only they did that, if only i were going to do that, it might go away. in the end, i didn't break and i'm very proud of the fact that i didn't but i wasn't threatened with blackmail like flynn was. >> bill: you talk as if you are a person who feels vindication now. do you? >> not yet, no. until the people who did this are held responsible and the sunlight shines on the things that the justice department and the fbi were doing.

, i was the most powerful woman in the west wing of the white house, general flynn was one of the most powerful people in the national security community and yet the fbi thought it was important to go after him. but it wasn't about us. was about getting president trump in his first couple of days of office and to prevent him from effectively ruling. and i firmly believe that it was a group of people at the highest levels of the intelligence community who didn't like the election outcome, and so they were going to do what they could abusing their power to try to hobble a duly elected president of the united states. >> bill: casey mcfarland, thank you for that immediate reaction on this breaking news today. more news from dallas, the owner of that salon a moment ago walking free. supporters of shelley luther outside the jail where she was being held have open their

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>> bill: more breaking news right now waiting to hear from the president and the oval office meeting with texas governor greg abbott. on the plane, he says he is very happy. on the economy, says considering

more stimulus so stay tuned for that. want to bring in fox news contributor donna brazile. we brought you when to talk about joe biden restarting his campaign today. he is doing a virtual tour in florida. let me get to that in a moment. but all roads to russia leading to a dead end, what do you make of the news right now with general flynn breaking today? >> first of all, i think it's unbelievable. he misled the vice president of the united states, he admitted to lying, and now because the justice department has decided that lies about his contact with the russian ambassador was not pertinent to the case, him being a russian agent, i still believe that this case is not resolved. hopefully it's in the hands of a federal judge and will get more clarity at that point. but we all know what attorney general barr responsibility is right now. he wants to exonerate. he wants to exonerate everybody who was involved and let me just say this.

is clear to me in the senate just confirmed a couple of weeks ago when they got their intelligence report, we know the russians were involved, we know they wanted to hurt secretary clinton to help donald trump. i just hope that we don't have to reframe this case in light of the fact that we have a very important election coming up. >> bill: the same day that you get these documents that suggest the whole race to chase the rush of story on collusion came up empty again. >> it didn't come up empty. remember, it did not come up empty. you cannot say that knowing the number of officials who are in jail and the number of officials who have admitted to information. at the end of the day, under president trump leadership in the campaign, that they stop it and alert the government? know. i think the government had a responsibility to investigate it and it's important that we

understand it is concluded that while they could not find the connection, they knew there was a lot of confrontation. >> bill: there's a lot going on as you can clearly see here. how does joe biden break through? still working out of his home in delaware, virtual appearances, how is it going to cut it in 2020? >> how will it cut it for those of us who like to get out there and be surrogates and go out and knock on doors and hold rallies? i think the vice president is doing the prudent thing listening to health officials. he can be out there virtually. i've heard more from joe biden in the last two months and i did when he was an active candidate going from state to state. the reason why is that he's on podcast doing satellite tv, he is on the radio. just recently, i just want to alert people here the district of columbia, i got my absentee ballot but also got mail from the biden campaign, i got robo called so he is campaigning,

maybe not the way in which we are use to it, but he is campaigning. >> bill: talk to you again next week. in the meantime, i am seeing what we call tapes being queued up inside the oval office, the texas governor greg abbott is meeting with the president. you can see that in a matter of moments. getting some reaction to shelley luther being released from jail as well. let's drop on here and get headlines from the oval office. >> how was it possible that someone who tested positive for covid-19 got so close to you? >> i think probably that has to do with the fact that we all believe in tests. we have the best tests in the world. but they were tested on a weekly basis. i just had a test as you probably heard. i had one yesterday and i had one today, and is negative. mike just had a test, and it's negative, but they do the tests and it just shows you what i've been saying, testing is not a

perfect heart no matter what you do, testing is not a perfect art so we test once a week. now we are going to go testing once a day but even when you test once a day, somebody, something happens when they catch something. i've had very little contact, personal contact with this gentleman, know how he has come a good person but had very little contact. we were both tested. you can be with somebody, everything is fine, and then something happens to that person and all of a sudden, you test positive. we all are. it's what we were saying, we

have the best tests in the world but what happens in between when you got tested and just a couple of days later? so in this case, they were a number of days missed and it was a long weekend and so you never know, but we both tested in a negative fashion he would call it. any other questions? >> and we get your reaction to some breaking news? the justice department has decided to dismiss the case against michael flynn. are you aware of that? >> i didn't know that was happening at this moment. i felt it was going to happen just by watching and seeing like everybody else does. he was an innocent man, he is a great gentleman, he was targeted by the obama administration, and he was targeted and what he has done is a disgrace and i hope a big price will be paid. it's never been anything like this in the history of our

country. what they did, the obama administration did is unprecedented, it's never happened. in the history of our company and i hope a lot of people will pay a big price because they are dishonest, crooked people. they are scum, and i say it a lot. they are human scum. they should never have happened in this country. in a duly elected president, and they went after him by going after find people. and those fine people said no, i'm not going to lie. i can't lie. he is not the only one. there are many of them, and they all said i can't lie. they could have said something like make up a lie, trump loves somebody or something or some country, and they said you wouldn't have any problem, that's what they were trying to do, and as a disgrace. the obama administration justice department was a disgrace, and they got caught. they got caught.

very dishonest people. but much more than that, it's treason. so i'm very happy for general flynn, he was a great warrior, and he still is a great warrior. now in my book is an even greater warrior. what happened to him should never happen again and what happened to this presidency to go through all of that and still do more than any president has ever done in the first three years is pretty amazing when you think of it with what we've done with regulations and tax cuts and second amendment and all of the things we've done, it's never happened and until two months ago, we have the greatest economy in history. like you had in texas, we had to close it down. but for these people to have done that, i am very proud of general flynn, i can tell you that right now. >> the people should pay a big price for what they have done to this country. they should pay a big price, and

their partner very complicit is a thing called the media. the media is totally guilty and all of those writers and so-called journalists. and they're not journalists. their thieves. all of those journalists that received pulitzer prize should be forced to give those bullet surprises back because they were all wrong. because if you saw today more documents came out saying there was absolutely no collusion with russia, came out very loud and clear and they wrote for years because they try to get a number on the presidency and this president happened to be me. bullet surprises should all be returned because you know what? they were given out falsely. was fake news. they're all fake news. those bullet surprises should be given back immediately, and the pulitzer committee or whoever gives the prizes are a disgracey take those prizes back because r

prizes for what turned out to be false stories and pulitzer prize it should be given to the ones who got it right and i could give you a long list of those names too. and you know who i'm talking about. i did. we are helping various countries as you know, russia is having a hard time with the same covid-19. they got hit like everybody else got hit, and we had a long talk and also, the 75th year and you know the 75th year means, it was very nice. he called me because we were partners so to speak for a very big successful war, and it was very nice he called as a congratulatory call, a call of celebration because it was the 75th year, and also i suggested if they need because we have a lot of ventilators if they need

ventilators, we love to send them some, and we will do that at the appropriate time. we will send them some ventilators. will be doing that. and that was a very nice call. and remember this, the russia hoax made a very hard for russia and the united states to deal with each other. they are a very important nation, the most powerful nation, they were a very powerful nation. why would we not be dealing with each other? but the russia hoax is absolute dishonest hoax, made it very difficult for our nation and their nation to deal, and we discuss that. i said it's a very appropriate time because things are falling out now and coming in line showing what a hoax this whole investigation was. was a total disgrace and i wouldn't be surprised if you see a lot of things happen over the next number of weeks. this is just one piece of a very dishonest puzzle.

>> been trying to arrange an arms-control summit with president putin, is that getting anywhere? >> we are talking about arms control with russia and we will go forward with that and we are talking about it very seriously. they have many nuclear weapons and so do we and we are talking about an arms-control with russia. they like to do it. we like to do it. >> about the economy today, 33 million jobs have been lost in the last seven weeks. will there be more jobs lost in may or is that never going to start coming down? >> the number will start coming down at an appropriate time. and whatever that is. i'm doing the third quarter is being a very important quarter because as i said that will be a transition. i think you could say a transition into greatness because i think next year we are going to have a phenomenal year. economically. and we are working very hard now, the governor was working along with us in relationship with texas has been phenomenal,

and texas is opening up in a lot of places are opening up, and we want to do it. and i'm not sure that we have a choice. i think we have to do it. this country can't stay closed and locked down for years. somebody could say let's keep it closed for a couple of years, united states of america, the greatest economy in history two months ago in the history of the world, we had a far greater economy than anybody including china by a lot, and we had to close it down in order to really do something about the plague, but we did something and also, we learned a lot about it. we know that you may have fires every once in a while in certain locations, some little ones and maybe some big ones but you know how to shut it down. you might want to speak about that. >> sure. i was talking with dr. birx about that, so what we've done is we've been able to contain the spread of the coronavirus in texas but at the same time we

created these surge forces that will go out to regions where there are flareups and it's like putting out a fire. we have a search force working just north of amarillo because of a meat-packing plant where there are several other issues and basically only three categories causing any type of outbreak. there are meat-packing plants, jails, and senior centers. and so we have task forces that those three areas. it weren't for those three categories, testing positive would be very minimal. >> the governor and i have spoken about what he's doing with senior citizen centers is incredible. the time and effort in love that you are giving to senior citizens, just what has gone on throughout the country in some instances as you know, senior citizens areas and the governor has really made that appoint

almost before anybody i can think of. >> because of that, we have one of the lowest death rates in the united states of america. >> there are different standards used in different communities. but today i made one thing clear and that is as we go through this process of trying to maintain order in our states, as we are asking the people in our state to comply with these orders, we should not be taking these people and putting them behind bars. these people who have spent their life building up a business and being told to shut it down and lose every penny they have and then they don't follow every little fine point of all the rules, they suddenly

are subject to arrest. and that is wrong. and that's why i issued another executive order today saying that instead of texas, no one can be put behind bars because they are not following an executive order. >> that includes the woman that we've been reading about with the beauty salon. >> she's free today. >> following up on the coronavirus, are you contact tracing the people around this area that would've had contact and should there be for those? >> they are doing everything that you can do again within the limits of testing and you know what that is. we have the ultimate testing. we have the best tests in the world and we gave more than anybody else. but i have always said testing is somewhat overrated because what happens after somebody takes a test, what's going on they are? mike was just saying the word essential. essential workers and as you know essential workers are immune. do you want to mention that?

>> the cdc guidelines have been very clear from the beginning of this outbreak for anyone that comes into contact with someone with coronavirus, we early on recommended that people self-quarantine. that recommendation of course was before we had done this .7.7 million tests around the country and disturbing test very quickly to people that either have symptoms or are suspected to possibly have contracted the coronavirus. but with regard to essential workers the president referred to, we've always had an exception, people to keep food on the table and people that are involved in public safety, most especially health care workers. we've asked them to continue to go to work by every countermeasures including testing to make sure they're not contracting the disease. in an effort that they would

come into contact with the president will be testing every day, and keeping the essential work moving forward in our national response is the priority going forward. >> the big thing is we've been tested. >> argue thumbs up with them doing the 25% capacity for movie theaters and restaurants on the light? mike we had a particular discussion and understand the nail salon. it's true. they didn't really understand it. talking about not having them in the first opening wave because you can't physical distance. we move forward together, it's those kind of dialogues.

what's impressive is how much they know about epidemiology. they came with all of the data, that was the prison, and was able to answer every county and what the issue was. and when you look at houston and you look at dallas and you see the ability to really contain and mitigate those epidemics but at the same time contain epidemics and not allow them to spread in the community, this is what we've been asking governors to do with the tests and using focused testing to really find asymptomatic cases and protect the vulnerable and the ability to go into meat-packing plants and go into the senior care centers and proactively test it is really extraordinary, and i think we still remain concerned about asymptomatic spread and we think that the progress they are making on testing in a focused way to protect others is really a way that we can move forward

together to protect everyone in the community. >> so texas is a role model for other states? we make every state is different, i've talked with some incredible governors who were all doing quite a good job. >> that's true. >> 20 states by the count of multiple organizations right now that have guidelines, what do you say to those states that haven't met the guidelines that are already starting that process now? >> we looked at all of them and spoken to many of the governors, most of the governors. we give leeway to the governors and these are governors that have done a good job and i think all cases. i have some that i don't think are doing a particularly good job but for the most part, they have an these governors have, and we give them the leeway. and they have to do what they're doing when you look at the job he's done in texas, relying on his judgment. you have vast parts of texas

where there is no problem whatsoever. literally nothing that it would be a shame to keep that closed. >> half of our counties either have no cases or five or fewer cases. >> the governors have great power as to that given by us, we want them to do that. we rely on them, we trust them, and hopefully they are making the right decisions. we met georgia right now, a dramatic video of unarmed georgia man who was shot by police while on a job, have you seen the video in your reaction to that? mike i am getting her a full report of it this evening, my heart goes out to the parents fit into the loved ones of the young gentleman, it's a very sad thing, but i will be given a full report this evening. >> haven't seen the video yet, to be clear. >> do you worry the u.s. is

considering removing systems from saudi arabia, can you confirm? >> i don't want to talk about it but we are doing some things and making a lot of moves in the middle east and elsewhere doing a lot of things all over the world militarily, we've been taken advantage of all over the world, our military in the sense that -- this is nothing to do in saudi arabia, this has to do with other countries, we have the most powerful military in the world, we have spent $1.5 trillion since i've been here, more than that, $1.5 trillion on a military that we now have the strongest military we've ever had, the best equipment, the best missiles, planes, the best of everything. we are authorizing new ships being built in the united stat united states, and they are beauties. we have the best submarines in the world by far and we have submarines being built, and we go around and protect other countries and other countries

don't respect us like they should. in some cases, they don't even like us. in those days are over. so things are moving. and i'm not putting saudi in that thing, but we are doing certain things that will be positive for us and i think very positive for them too. saudi arabia is a very wealthy country, and they've agreed to help to phrase some of the costs which nobody else would ever ask for, of course. you'd probably have to have a good business person in charge of the country. i don't want to sound overly anything, just want to tell you that very wealthy countries we were protecting for nothing, for nothing. or very little. south korea has agreed to pay substantial money to us which we appreciate very much, and we ask countries to help us. we are spending $1.5 trillion, spending all of this money. cost us a lot of money.

our military budgets three times more and even four times more than the second largest vendor of money, it's more than that. four times more plus, and we are going to defend countries, they should also respect us by making a contribution. i negotiate with everything, and frankly this country was taken advantage of by friend and foe. but not any longer. i don't want to talk about that yet. but we have pulled a lot of troops out of different places. we were guarding the border between turkey and syria for years, and thousands of people there and i said wait a minute, let me ask you this. turkey and syria, two big countries have been fighting with each other for years. why do we have thousands of soldiers ultimately down to 57 soldiers, and then 27 soldiers, and then they were getting hostile toward each other saying

it might 20 soldiers out and that was about a year ago and i took a lot of heat. people said that's terrible. i said no, it's not terrible. they've been fighting each other for 1,000 years. under different names. probably a lot longer than 1,000 years. i said we are essentially out of syria other than we kept the oil, we kept the oil. of course, that was better two months ago than it is now, keeping oil today is not as good as it would've been two months ago. two months ago as a wise thing. today, i think so. by the way, oil prices have gone up which is great for the oil industry and for jobs because as millions of jobs. we built the greatest energy company in the world by far and prices are inching up, and i saw 25 today my $25 a barrel. good for jobs. that's what we want. go ahead, jennifer.

>> said something about liability. >> i think you have to have something having to do with liability for covid because you can't have a restaurant and a guy is going to open and it's a nice business but it's not exactly the oil business in its prime, right? and somebody leaves, and they say i'm going to sue them because they caught the plague, and now whether he was guilty or not, the legal fees will drive them out of business, so i think you're going to have to have something. i would support that. you go to a game, and you see the team owner or you go to someplace and it would be litigation have been, and you'll never know where they caught it. he'll never know where they catch it. so we have to have something like that, otherwise it's going to be lawsuits. and there already is in this country. but you'd have lawsuits all over the place, right? >> international travel restrictions that you imposed on

china and all around the world, you see any scenarios anytime soon? >> at some point when they clean up and everybody cleans up and when the plague disappears, sure. you want to have international travel or airlines are going to do very well again, we save the airlines with 25 billion and another 25 billion, but no, you want to have international travel but you don't want to have it where france is having a hard time, having the shut down in spain is having a terrible time in italy i don't even have to tell you about, but we want to be open to those countries at the appropriate time, absolute absolutely. germany, we have a very good relationship with germany. germany is done very good, we have a low mortality rate and

frankly if you took new york out of the equation, we would really have a low mortality rate, but we communicate. our countries communicate especially. >> no different than anybody else. i watch fox news and i watch others and i read a lot of newspapers and i get a lot of information from my people. i think i am very well-versed when it comes to not only the pandemic, but everything. i enjoy that, and i think i have an obligation to do it, but there is certainly a more honorable source than some. some is fake. you look at cnn, it is fake news. you look at msdn see, i call it mst see. you know what that means? democratic national committee.

you look at nbc, nbc to me is very dishonest news and that's why they fired and the lack i guess. you have to ask them, but antiblack was a hack and they fired him and they did a big favor to the world into this country, now i find them to be very dishonest, which is a comcast division. i call it concast with the n. a bc, gave me a very fair interview the other night, very good professional. i've had very good relationships with him as you know. cbs is having a hard time, but they're not getting it straight. in fact last night and read they did a false report where they actually got people to make it look like it was -- did you see what happen? let's get some people because they want to make it look like it was turmoil, and they do that with this white house all the

time. they love the word chaos when there is no whatsoever. what happened at cbs yesterday was terrible where they got a lot of people to try and pretend like it was a mass amount of chaos and disorder. he saw that, it was terrible. the news media and are country is a mess but they fired and a lack and that's a big step forward. i hope not. i don't think so. i think you're going to have members, some fires, may be some fairly fires by comparison to what people would think but this gentleman is a total professional. i think we learned a lot. you would have said that question a number of months ago, it would have been different. the answer would have been different. but today, we learned a lot.

we have learned so much and we now know first how to go in and contained but now we also have the resources to go when to contain. they're testing everybody or go into a jail and we will test everybody and we will separate those and test positive from those who test negative but most importantly, we go into the senior centers because their lives are so vulnerable and we focus on our seniors and we focus on ways to reduce the deaths. so now we have all the strategies to make sure that we are able to contain any type of outbreak that allows for the rest of the economy of big states like texas to continue to go and grow where we manage and contained outbreaks for they exist. >> that we wouldn't have known two months ago. couldn't have given that answer. he couldn't have given that answer two months ago. but we've learned there are still things we don't know about this crazy plague, this particular virus, but the answer

that greg just gave. i wouldn't have known the answer two months ago. so we learned a lot. >> saying there would be a strong report, when should we expect that? >> we are going to learn it came out of china okay? whether people like to say it or not, everybody knows that. i think that's pretty much known. they tried to blame europe saying it came out of europe. came out of china, went to 184 countries, probably more than that now. was a week ago, 184 countries. can you believe that? and it could have been stopped at the point and at the source but it would've been been easy to do. something happened, something happened. either they made a terrible

mistake, probably in confidence, somebody was stupid and they didn't do the job that they should have done. it's too bad. things could happen like that. we have to help people. i was watching the salon owner, she looked so great, so professional, and she was talking about her children, she has to feed her children. was great. and we can do things mysteriously through executive order or otherwise i can help a lot of people as an example like delays. we can do delays of various filings and i can see that happening. >> is more money coming? >> something could happen.

you know the greatest thing that could happen? if we could get our country open again and get it going again and have people have these great jobs again and what we've done is we've been able to have all these thousands and hundreds of thousands of small businesses pay their employees even though there was no income coming in, so they're ready to rock and ready to go and when texas opens in other places, you've already started the process. the best thing we can do is get our country going, get it open and get it open safely. and we will put out those little fires or those big fires if we have to, but we have to get our country going. say that again? >> visa suspension? >> we are talking to them about

it. they are good senators. i know, we are talking to them about it. in i've been saying by american ever since i announced i was running for office and long before that. know, bringing a lot of companies back. we were doing that long before this happened, japan is having big plans built here. we have many japanese plants coming with the ability, we have to do it. and they were doing it. you have many companies coming back to the united states. then this hit. and when this is gone, it will continue. that maybe he will continue even more so because we learned a lot. we learned more, we have learned a lot about the economics and the importance we used to make

and then all of a sudden some one became a globalist. a great genius became a globalist. maybe he's not even a smart person. who got to make things in our country. medicine, it includes steel. our steel companies, we had a very good. we've made it very difficult for steel dumping in some of the companies were doing very well. now of course, we got out a little bit. we will always help our steel companies. we have to make our product in this country. i've been saying that for a long time. globalists have cost us a lot of money. a lot of security. >> should the valet be wearing masks? >> yeah, which valets are talking about? valets are all over the place. they are and they do. >> they do wear masks? >> they do. they wear masks. a lot of people in the white house wear masks. frankly, a lot of people want to

wear masks until this thing goes away. but we have a lot of people in the white house -- i see it all the time where they are wearing masks just a little while ago they were wearing a mask. there was one of them wearing a mask a little while ago. i notice a lot of the reporters aren't wearing masks. thank you very much, everybody. say it? i will. i think at the appropriate time. i think he's a hero. it's a scam. it was a scam and a hoax. i think he is a hero, the general. thank you. good shape. if they are in good shape. they are in great shape. >> bill: there it is from the oval office toward the end there calling general michael flynn a hero. general sent on behalf of the department of justice will not be pursued for prosecution. if that was the headline last hour. he was targeted by the obama administration is very proud of

him. with regard to covid-19, the president saying he was tested again today with negative -- found working at the white house tested positive for covid-19. you might have caught the vice president saying that they will be tested daily. at the vice president, the president and aides who come in contact with them will be tested daily as well. a couple minutes left here. i want to bring in the former u.s. ambassador of the u.n. thank you for being patient. there was a lot of news in that. we brought you want to talk about this chinese relationship which i will get you in a moment. do you have any reaction to the news surrounding general plan? >> this is something that every american should be so upset about this. i don't care if you are republican or democrat. this is something i saw in other countries when i was with the united nations. the idea that they were able to do this to general plan -- the idea that this happens to this administration over this time is appalling. i'm happy for general plan, but we are not done.

this is the beginning. from top to bottom, we need to find out who knew, what happened, and what we are going to do about it? james comey has been out there making millions of dollars. we now need to say, you literally ran his poor general into the ground. you need to be held accountable. they need to tell us, how are we going to have confidence in them again? the justice department needs to tell us what's going to happen different. the idea that this could happen to an american citizen is disturbing at best. and we need to make sure that people -- >> bill: let's see what comes after that comment and more from the white house the department of justice. secretary pompeo has had a singular laser focus on the chinese communist government that he believes needs to be held accountable. okay, fine. how do we do that, madame ambassador? >> we do it by looking at more than just a virus. that's one part of it. we do it by making sure we hold

them accountable on the virus. we asked the w.h.o. for an investigation. we see what china knew. they do about making sure we treat them as a second-largest economy in the world and have them pay their fair share of all these multilateral organizations. right now they are paying as a developing country. we do it by making sure all these universities and colleges taking communist china regimes money for confucius institutes -- we make that transparent. what are you getting in return? what are you giving? don't you understand that china is spying when they do this? we do this by supporting taiwan. nothing gets under their skin more than when we support taiwan. taiwan should be a member of the world health organization. china has fought it for years. that's make that. >> bill: do you think these trade talks next week just a quick answer on this. apparently they are still alive. do you think we should have those trade talks or call them all for now? >> we can have trade talks, but

we need to be in the driver's seat on this. i don't care of america buys t-shirts and light bulbs. i want them to depend on china for pharmaceuticals and medical products. we need to make sure that we are being smart about this and we need to let china know that we are onto them. >> bill: in the 30 seconds i have left. help those truly in need but stop wasting billions on others. what you mean by that in the mass of trillions of dollars that have been handed out? >> i think that we need to be responsible. look at the large corporations that are getting money. they have private investors. they have access to equity. why are we turning around and bailing out large companies when it is that small businesses that needed? there's a problem with that. where we pay more on unemployment and the person was already making in the first place? or why are we saying that hospitals are getting money and those that have the largest cases are getting the least amount?

most cases are getting the largest amount. >> bill: a lot of people might be asking the same questions. thank you for being patient. nikki haley with us today. thank you, good to see you. back again tomorrow. set your dvr. in the meantime, big jobs report. here is neil, on that. >> president trump: it has never been anything like this in the history of our country. but they did -- with the obama administration did is unprecedented. it's never happened. never happened. nothing like this has never happened before in history of our country. i hope a lot of people are going to pay a big price because they are dishonest crooked people. i sang a lot. they are scum. they are human scum. it should never happen in this country. >> neil: case dropped. more than two years after general michael flynn had pled guilty to lying to the fbi, the justice department gives up. says that it's dropping its case against the president's first national security advisor. we've got you covered fro