♪ >> tucker: good evening, welcome to tucker carlson tonight, and the coronavirus killing tens of thousands of americans, putting millions out of work. but the crisis has also forced to the center serious conversations about issues that matter to the future of the country. issues like the dangerous rise of chinese global dominance. the poorest of the domestic borders, the crumbling infrastructure, government corruption. over the last two months, you may have asked yourself, why were we not talking about these things before? there is a simple answer. we do not have time.

there was no time to consider the fundamental health of america, because we were talking about russia. in washington, russia is all we talk about. all the business in the capital city came to a halt as we looked at a bizarre scavenger hunt on vladimir putin's spies. even if the whole thing sounded absurd, now we know it it was worse. it was not in fact what we thought it was, the longest episode of mass hysteria. it was instead an elaborate and intentional hoax staged by the most unscrupulous and powermad political operatives this country has seen. it does it sound like an overstatement? how do we know that? because they have admitted it. the house intelligence committee finally released 57 transcripts of testimony delivered to the committee behind closed doors. all of it during the russia investigation. one of those transcripts reveal? we will not ask you to trust us on this one. te directly fromnt.

the transcripts. jim clyburn, obama's director of national intelligence said this "i never saw any direct empirical evidence of the trump campaign or someone in it was plotting or conspiring with the russians to metal with the election." compare that to the twitter fe feed. samantha power was asked by the committee if she had any evidence of cocollusion -- conclusion with the russians, she said "i'm not in possession of anything, i did not have anything out of the intelligence committee." susan rice said this" i don't recall an intelligence that i would could consider evidence. amazing. and here is loretta lynch. asked if she saw evidence of russia collusion, and she replied this way "i do not recall that being briefed up to me." notice the word choice. i do not recall. for three years our entire political system, every

television, every media outlet looking for russian spies. we were told again and again to justify this that collusion was the greatest crime ever committed in american history. a crime against the state. it undermined our democracy. if the attorney general of the united states, a close friend of the president, barack obama claims that she "does not recall if she ever received any evidence that any of it was true," if she had been roger stone when she said that, she would have been charged with perjury on the spot. we will watch her sentencing right now. but she is not roger stone. and she probably thought the transcript would never be made public. that was clearly evelyn farkas' assumption. a former defense official from the obama administration, she made a fixture on cable television as news outlets scrambled for puppets with legitimate sounding resumes to push the collusion narrative. dumb people would say anything. in those categories delivering in spades. >> i was urging my former

colleagues and frankly speaking, the people on the hill, it was more aimed at telling the hill people, get as much information as you can try to get as much intelligence as it can be for president obama leaves the administration, because i had a fear that somehow that information would disappear with the senior people who left. so it would be hidden away in the bureaucracy that the trump folks, if they found out how we knew what we knew about there, the staff, the staff dealing with russia, that they would try to compromise those sources and methods, meaning that we would no longer have access to that intelligence. so i became very worried, because not enough was coming out into the open, and i knew that there was more. we have very good intelligence on russia. that's why you have the leaking. people are worried. >> tucker: we have very good intelligence on russia, said evelyn farkas. she cannot take your appendix out. she is not that kind of doctor. we knew what we knew. but she did not know anything.

she was lying as purely as a liar can live. once under oath behind closed doors, she admitted that. "i did not know anything," she said. it was all lies. literally all of it. even the claims about hacking that formed the basis of the entire story in the investigation that follows. in 2016, during the campaign, someone stole information from the dnc's email server that wound up online and embarrassed hillary clinton. democrats blamed that theft on russian agents and donald trump. in fact, there was never real evidence that that actually happened. the dnc, you will remember, never allowed federal investigators to inspect to their email servers. that's odd behavior for people who claim to be the victims of foreign espionage. instead, the party servers were inspected by a third party nominee called crowd strike. it is all of this coming back to you? adam schiff's committee

interviewed the ceo of crowd strike, and interviewed him personally. he asked if henry knew when the russians had stolen the data, henry's reply that we are seeing for the first time is this "as it relates to the dnc, we have indicators that data was x will treated, we did not have concrete evidence. we do not have concrete evidence. later he admitted that he only had circumstantial evidence that the russians were involved at all. adam schiff heard those words directly. from the one person who would know for certain. and he knew that there was nothing substantial at the core of the russian collusion story. at the very center. it was hollow. it was a sham. schiff never even suggested this in public. instead, he did the opposite. he spent years on television telling you it was totally real, shut up. so there is clear evidence on the issue of collusion, and

this adds to the body of evidence. ample evidence of collusion in plain sight, and that is true. have democrats found any examples of collusion? >> yes, we have. you can see it in plain site. and there is ample evidence, and indeed, there is of collusion of people in the trump campaign with the russians. >> i think there is plenty of evidence of collusion and conspiracy. >> all of this is evidence of collusion. >> there is significant evidence between the campaign and russia. >> tucker: in case you weren't counting during that montage, he said evidence nine times, and every single time, he would be lying. and it was fairly obvious if you are following closely. he never produced any of the so-called evidence that to the dnc server, hacked by the russian government. several times on the show, we

raise the question, do we really know this? a group of entire intelligence officers saying, that did not happen. here's how we know. we brought that up on the show. we came under enormous pressure to be quiet. you are crazy. we know that for a fact! but we do not know for a fact. and when he came on in the show, we asked him, how exactly do you know this? he never answered our question. he refused treatment. >> look right into the camera and say, i know for a fact that he was behind the hacks? >> absolutely, behind the hacks of the institution, not only, but also in europe. and tucker -- >> look at me and say -- >> i think that to ronald reagan, the ruling over, and you are carrying water for the kremlin. >> i am not carrying water for the kremlin, you are on the intel committee, and you can't say -- >> you are going to have to move the show over to the russian

intelligence. >> tucker: a normal person would not behave that way, could not behave that way, conscience would prevent it. adam schiff is a sociopath. he will do or say anything to achieve power. he is unfit to hold office and should resign. and not just adam schiff, the entire apparatus of official washington has been exposed by these transcripts as well as by the documents just released in the michael flynn case. in november 2019, government attorney defended the fbi's decision to interrogate flynn at the white house with no lawyer. to sing this "to the fbi wasicao whether individuals associated with the campaign of donald j. trump were coordinating with the russian government." in that same filing, he wrote that the calling with the russian ambassador, the famous kislyak was important. it was imperative that to the

fbi determine whether and why such communications had occurr occurred. both of those statements from him we now know conclusively are lies. in the filing this week, the doj revealed in early january, the fbi had already known that there was no derogatory information tying michael flynn to the russian government. nor did they need to know whether flynn had spoken with ambassador kislyak, they knew for a fact he had, because they were listening at the time, they had a word for word transcript of the call. in other words, brennan van greco was lying in his filing. this is not only of importance to you and donald trump, people who work for him or those who voted. this is important to every american, because things fall apart quickly when high-level officials do things like this for political reasons. look around. do you know anybody who trust the government anymore? there is a reason for that. and it is not good.

it is things like this. and by the way, such as democrats you should blame for the corrosion of our public life. the vast majority of the russia collusion, in fact the testimony we just heard occurred during the first two years of this administration. who ran the government then? at the times republicans controlled both houses of congress and committee by definition. they had the power to expose this hoax and to shut it down, but they did not. we can only speculate as to why they did not, in fact, too cowardly to tell the truth, or maybe deep down a lot of them agreed with the names of all of this. either way, it will be very interesting, and we are going to sit back and enjoy it as lindsey graham and mitch mcconnell and richard burr, and so many useless senate republicans, the total phonies will tell you that they are representing you, but don't. explain why they did not really do anything to stop the derailment of america while it was in progress. francie hanks is a a former

federal prosecutor and is going to assess these documents. thank you for coming on. these turn out to be more damning, even with those of us skeptical, still sending jaws agape at how clearly they show how everyone was lying. >> you know, tucker, what really shocks me about all of this is the conduct of the mueller team. the special council team. the documents submitted by bill barr show up that mary mccord and sally yates and some of the people at the very highest levels of the department of justice gave interviews to the mueller team in august of 2017 where they talk about the misconduct, the clear misconduct going on by jim comey and andy mccabe and peter strzok as they ran up and down pennsylvania avenue trying to find a way to destroy this young presidency. they knew this. and in august of 2017 when they gave these interviews, and yet,

what did the team do? they continued, they prosecuted flynn, they continued this collusion conspiracy narrative in spite of knowing very well by then, that the steele dossier was nonsense, that the logan act which was never brought against anyone, and that michael flynn did not do anything wrong and that the fbi did. they knew all of that, but did we know any of that? we did not. >> tucker: they did not like the outcome of the election, so trying to destroy the administration using long form enforcement agencies. they spent three years lecturing us about the threat to the democracy, and trying to undermine our democracy, even if they were trying to undermine our democracy. >> ultimately that's what tierney does. when one side uses the levers of power, uses the secret

surveillance capabilities of an entire government, uses the threat of what is supposed to be the premier law enforcement agency in the world over a man to destroy him and try to get into take down the presidency it should scare everyone. and i believe as you said in your monologue, both republicans and democrats, because you had hearings going on, subpoena capability, and they all took that back and said, mueller, mueller, mueller. he knew right from the jump that this was all garbage and they continued. >> tucker: i know we are supposed to pretend that mitch mcconnell is super impressive, because he understands how the senate works. but it would be interesting to hear from mitch mcconnell, why did you not do anything about this? what are is your job. it's great to see you tonight. thank you. >> tucker: bear, chief political anchor whose "special report" every night at 6:00 eastern, always great to

have him. these documents even for those of us who are cynical about it, surprising. what is the political fallout of this if any, do you think. >> i think it will be significant. let's start with the michael flynn development, and you see the split along party lines where the left is pointing to bill barr and saying he is overshooting and politicizing the doj, but he is very matter of fact, saying once he saw the facts and all the tactics used by the fbi and the legal problems around this, it was an easy call. remember that it was not bill barr who made the original recommendation to do this. it was a u.s. attorney, jeffrey jensen who bill barr appointed to look into the flynn situation. and he writes in his recommendation that this was untethered to an unjustified by the fbi's counterintelligence investigation into general flynn. you were just referencing. they had this investigation to

see if he was tied to russia called cross fire razor. they determined there was nothing to it. but then they move forward anyway with this interview going around the white house counsel. i think that there is going to be fallout from that as this investigation continues. >> tucker: i wonder if this information that we are getting now, how many, do we have any idea how many in congress knew about its existence? >> clearly the people in the house intelligence committee had some sense. i don't know about the back knowledge of the inner workings of the flynn situation, but i know the acting attorney general sally yates was astonished that the fbi was going around the white house counsel to set up the interview with flynn. she obviously did not say anything about that after she leaves office. and we don't -- it's not illuminated as james comey is doing his book tour.

i spoke to him on "special report" asking him these types of questions and he dodged on the specifics. i think that there will be fallout as we learn more, i am told that i had chuck grassley on the show last night that there are more shoes to drop in terms of documents, significant information. some of the republicans have been trying to get that out, and some has been classified. but others i think to your point, looking the other way and fought other battles. >> tucker: really quick i'm going to ask you to speculate. when we get another president, how paranoid will that president be about dealing with the fbi, cia, doj in general? >> i think pretty frightened, looking at some of the action so far. i don't think that we know the extent of it. and, we are probably looking at a month or two, it always seems like we say that before the term investigation drops, we don't know what is in there. but we know that it has been a

lengthy and detailed investigation that is criminal. so there will be more to come. >> tucker: yes, democrats say that they trust these institutions. if a democrat wins, he will fire everybody. put his brother in. that will be smart. great to see you tonight. thank you. >> thanks, tucker, have a great weekend. >> tucker: american supermarkets are suffering shortages, but not because the food does not exist. it does exist. there is too much of it. farmers are dumping it. investigating what exactly is going on. also, speaking of what is going on, san francisco city is delivering free drugs and alcohol and tobacco to vagrants in the city. not bringing it to you, but if you are homeless, for he smokes. a straight ahead. ♪ when we started our business

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♪ >> tucker:r: coronavirus related food shortages are getting worse and some because farmers are not producing enough food. they are. matt finn live with the details on a baffling story. >> some of this video is hard to watch. farmers across the country say that they arerm on edge. the chain of supply is breaking, and they are being forced to get rid of produce, meat, and milk. farmers customers have suddenly dried up as so many of the country's restaurants, hotels, and schools are closed. in some of the nation's largest meat processors are shut down out a precaution or because workers are sick or died from coronavirus. the united dairy of arizona reports it is dumping about 1 million pounds of unused milk every day. there where houses are overflowing from lack of sales. in boston this week, farmers

donated thousands of gallons of milk to the national guard to hand out to families. potato farmers in idaho and washington are giving away millions of pounds of potatoes in florida, farmers are being forced to plow over crops. major meat processors like tyson warned that there will be a shortage of meat and millions of animals could be euthanized.e farmers are set to receive federal aid, but there is more pressure ahead. farmers have to make decisionsst right now to harvest crops in the summer and the fall. and there is no telling what the economy and demand is going to look like then. tucker. >> tucker: matt finn porous, thanks a lot, matt. as you know well, because you may be one of them, tens of millions of americans are unemployed and running out of money. worried about losing their tconstitutional rights, in fac, many of them are gone. one group of americans has no worry at all about getting whatever they want. the homeless. in san francisco, officials are putting up the homeless for free and city hotels, and supplying

them with free alcohol, drugs, and nicotine. where are they doing this exactly? a former san francisco supervisor joining us tonight. thank you so much for coming on. i can't think of a clearero signal to taxpayers, citizens, people trying to do the right thing, that we just hate you and are spending all of our time on people who aren't contributing. i mean, honestly. why would they be giving the homeless free stuff? i don't? understand. >> it's not just that, the worst part is that we are taking a very vulnerable population and feeding their addictions. and we are not using taxpayer dollars to do that, which begs the question, why -- where is this money coming from? and is the reason we are not using taxpayer dollars because it would otherwise not be legal? we know that that is true on the federal level anyway. but the idea that the government can poison a few people for the good of the many is immoral, m

this has been debated over years, it is unconstitutional. very un-american for that matter. and by federal standards, illegal, which probably explains why some of the hotels as he read in the los angeles area are refusing to participate in the balancing of the homeless. >> tucker: los angeles city council, i know that you are from san francisco, threatening to commandeer hotels that do not want to become homeless shelters. to the level of concern, right, i am for helping the homeless, soso many of them are mentally l and need actual help, they don't want to live on the sidewalk, but all of the concerns for homeless, what about people who are trying really hard to do well for their kids and make the society better. they are totally ignored, why? >> that's right, we should be feeding their stomachs, and other addiction. and i guess that they feel as though the rest of us can fend for ourselves. but i think the real concern

here for c the department of health, giving them a lot of credit, they don't want toea spread the covid disease. the facts don't pan out, because some of the homeless people being housed in hotels are specific to this program that we are giving them methadone, marijuana, and alcohol. some of them are not even covid positive, but t they are tryingo force themselves into self-isolation byby feeding the addiction. there's something very wrong about that. there are people who have not been legally detained, but saying, no, no, we want you to stay in the hotel room so you don't poison other people and we will feed your addictions to make sure that you stay there. there is something very cruel about that, and the fact that we are not taking care of the rest of the city in many ways andng feeding some of the hungry people and not focusing on the hunger issues and not the addiction issues isg. >> tucker: what went san francisco to thrive, but the only people left could be the homeless. all normal people will have

left, i hope i am wrong. great to see you tonight. thank you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: over the last threeor months, no american has had more trust placed in him then dr. tony fauci. has his performance justified america's confidence? we will assess that in detail after the break. ♪

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joe biden's vice presidential nominee, gretchen whitmer of michigan began i people in their state from traveling between two up their own properties. fencing off areas telling item she deemed unnecessary like carpet and paint. now power drunk and mediocre, has extended that shutdown order past memorial day. paul mitchell represents michigan in the congress, and joins us tonight. thank you so much for coming on. so what is the basis of this lawsuit? speak of the basis is that the governor has bulldozed the constitutional rights we all have in the state. going across the state to vitiate the limb and visit yourp grandchildren was prohibited. but it can be changed, because it's a 1945 law declaring an emergency, rewrite court decisions, and dial-up, as she calls it a dial up, and dial back the court orders depending on what she feels is keeping us safe. so any rights we have can be

adjusted by the governor on a week to week basis, what she has done in some areas. so even the right to get medical care is limited. your ability to go as we set up to look at certain things. she had actually close out parts of stores, because it was not appropriate to shop for paint for your house, for example. >> tucker: you can always get an abortion, but you cannot get a hip replacement. she is an idiot. >> or in the replacement. >> tucker: you. did? >> i could not get a consultation for health care for my knee, but you could get an abortion. alcohol, but you cannot go through this. she was making unilateral decisions, that most of us based on legislature have a court system to do. but all government, continuing that through labor day, through memorial day, i'm sorry. >> tucker: did anybody, did any democrat in the state say, i could support gretchen whitmore, i'm in on her ideas, but she

does not get to nullify the constitution of the united states, because she is not god, did anybody say that? >> there was one democrat in detroit that said some things because of a democratic state rep that has been very positive. >> tucker: we have had her on. >> she is not in the primary, she has been sanctioned by the democrats and state legislature, because how dare she say something positive about what the president has done that saved her life. so, yeah, they have not exactly been helpful in this period of 75 years ago americans celebrated to preserve liberty in europe, because we thought it was so dear to us. now we have a governor that is running over our constitutional rights, and the democrats and theri state legislature are standing view. >> tucker: this is directly related.hi it's not an attack. i'm being sincere, but she does not seem very be helpful in a cs to have someone who is not very

smart and not looking at the science. is it? >> in a crisis you have to take advice from a variety of sources. the president has done that, and you have to listen to people that have an opinion, similarly with yours. you have to consider them. i've had several conference calls, and she is not willing to take advice from folks except what she thinks pretty and she will make a decision when it is right for us to do whatever we state.ose to do in the and it's more than over the edge of the constitution. >> tucker: yes, because she is insecure, she knows that she does not know what she is doing. they don't want to hear contrary opinions. i've seen this before. great to see you tonight. thank you for this. and thank -- good luck with your soup. ever since january, dr. tony fauci has been the face of this country's response to coronavirus. he has been head of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases for more than 35 years. it made sense to trust him. he has a perfectly nice person.

but he has had a lot over the past four months, and helped formulate a lot of policies that have changed the country. so how well has he done? a professor of public health, and joins us tonight.w doctor, thanks for coming on. how would you assess dr. fauci's record so far? >> i agree that he is a very nice gentleman. he is a good laboratory thiol or just, but in terms of preparing the country, he missed this one. for two months from january 15th when we had our first case confirmed walking t around in te united states on u.s. soil until march 15th with the country latching onto every word he says, he never once prepared this country with anything beyond simple hygiene and basic virology lessons brit hume went on the media every day, every show. never did we hear let's get ready with more ppe. let's stock more nonessentials.

let's go with nonfree agents and testing. so that was a big miss. and i don't know whether or not to blame him, because we all make mistakes, or the entire country putting their faith and stock in one doctor.oc >> tucker: one doctor who at times seemed serious and other times in frivolous part he was asked is it okay to have sex with strangers you meet online, he said yes, it is up to your own judgment. and almost the same week he said don't ever shake hands withan anybody we can't have anymore sporting events. so it's okay to have sex with strangers, but not shake hands? and maybe think he is not as serious as we thought he was. >> he said literally in late january and other times that this is not something that the american public shouldub worry about. he is advising the white house almost every day, and for a long time, everybody looked to him. even doctors as the top authority in infectious diseases in the country. governor andrew cuomo said, we

don't do as governors pandemics, where were all the experts, this was last week. i wish someone would have stood up and blew the bugle. i agree with the governor. we need some leadership, and i think when we put our entire faith in one doctor, that's the problem! i >> tucker: it seems at this point, i don't think you hold one job in washington, without being a political operator, i happen to know. but getting rid of tony fauci, because he is such a media presence, how conscious is he of the media again? >> remember that he served six presidents. and the one thing i hear, which i can't believe i hear is he was afraid of getting fired, that's why he did not say anything.ho anybody who knows how government works knows that the president cannot fire him. no one can fire him. he is a career employee, not a political appointee. giving them notice and having cause. he can't just fire him. that's not why he did not say

anything. >> tucker: yeah. federal employees are statistically more likely to die on the job than they are to be fired from the job. so yeah, you are right. dr. mcgarry, thank you so much. it was great to see you. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: floor to has far more older people the new york state, but far more fewer deaths of coronavirus. that should tell you something. what did florida do you write that to did wrong? dr. marc siegel explains that next. plus there is new evidence in the tara reade case, the allegations against joe biden. we have been on that, because we think it is interesting and worth covering. we will assess it ahead. ♪ confident financial plans, calming financial plans, complete financial plans. they're all possible with a cfp® professional. find yours at letsmakeaplan.org.

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>> tucker: new york state has far more deaths from coronavirus than any other place in america. and one major reason for that is that the state's nursing homes were devastated. not by accident, but because of policy. florida has more people than new york and far more elderly people, but has not been hit nearly as hard. last night on laura's show, governor ron desantis described his state's tragedy. >> we really focus on where the greatest risk was, and that was to the elderly population, but particularly the elderly in long-termrly to suspend visitation to make sure that all the staff were screened. and in florida, 60% of the deaths are 75 and up. let's devote resources to help those folks most vulnerable. >> tucker: so what is floridasn doing that new york isn't doing? it's a question we hope to explore at some length in the coming months, it would be nice to learn something from this disaster. but in the meantime, we are

joined as we very often are, and always happy to be by dr. mike dr. mike -- dr. marc siegel who has some of the answers. >> 4800 deaths in new york nursing homes, new york state nursing homes. while governor cuomo is very worried v about his mom and has shown great heart in taking care of her, tonight's theme is let'p worry about other people besides our parents. the deaths are three times the deaths of covid-19 and the entire state of florida. and i will tell you why, because in florida, governor desantis is right. down in florida the nursing homes look totally different. and i talked to the head administrator of lakeview nursing home i care center in palm beach county florida, and you can see that the people are smiling, they are kind, they are friendly. they are wearing personal protective equipment. if somebody gets covid-19, they alert the hospital. they talk to infectious disease

experts, they alert the family. they isolate the patients. there is one specific person i want to talk about in that nursing home, her name is ida zell's, she is 91 and a holocaust survivor. her son, my father's cardiologist. we talk about how he saved my father's life from covid-19. two days ago he saved my father's life from a soaring blood pressure. you know what he told me, i'm worried about his mom tonight, because he is worried about my father. but his mom is safe in the lakeview care center. let's listen to what the administrator has to say about the place. >> we screen our staff daily, including taking temperature. our staff as you can see are wearing the required protective equipment, and we are following all protocols. >> w we have to learn from this, tucker. here in new york, we have to send people back to nursing

homes, the governor is allowing it to have covid-19, who have the diagnosis, who are not better, infecting the rest of the nursing home like kindling, that's why we have 4800 deaths here in nursing homes. we need that policy that they have in florida. thank god for governor desantis, godspeed to ida and her son who saved my father's life a second time, tucker. >> tucker: amen. what a g great story. dr. siegel, thank you. have a great weekend. we will see you soon. >> thanks, you too. >> tucker: twice this week we brought you updates on tara reade's accusations against former boss joe biden, splitting democrats into three factions. first, those who believe tara reade and think joe biden should leave the presidential race, those are burning supporters. and those are ones who believe reade, he did violate a young woman with fingersag against her will, and proudly plan to vote for joe biden anyway. that's a growing group.

and there are those pretending the whole thing does not exist. that last group includes the entire leadership of the democratic party. we are in a fourth category, skeptical as you should be, buth committed to finding out what happened. so tonight new facts in the case. in 1996, tara reade got a restraining order against a man she was married to called theodore drone in. in response to the restraining order filed with a court in california, he refers to a "problem reade was having at work regarding sexual harassment in joe biden's office." according to the account "it was obvious that this event had a very dramatic effect on reade, and that she is still sensitive and affected by it today."ed they did not mention sexual assault or accuse joe biden personally, but the document does establish that as hafar back as 24 years ago tara reade told others that she was traumatized by something

that happened in joe biden's senate office in washington. judge for yourself what it means, but it does seem significant. we will keep you updated as we learn more. even if tara reade's allegations turn out to be false, assuming we ever know for certain, joe biden's campaign has a lot of other problems. we will take you through his disastrous virtual rally. you really have to see the video. it's a great way to end the week. we will be right back. ♪ when we started our business we were paying an arm and a leg for postage. i remember setting up shipstation. one or two clicks and everything was up and running. i was printing out labels and saving money. shipstation saves us so much time. it makes it really easy and seamless. pick an order, print everything you need, slap the label onto the box, and it's ready to go. our costs for shipping were cut in half.

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♪ >> tucker: the coronavirus pandemic has kept joe biden off the campaign trail. that's just about eyes ideal as people who control joe biden are concerned. but occasionally they do have to provide a proof of life every few weeks or so, people grow suspicious. so last night he held a virtual rally for supporters in tampa, bute never left delaware. lisa boothe, the voice joins us with more. hey, lisa. >> hi, tucker. yes, it is safe to say that it was not a smashing success. as you know, president trump has been going after joe biden saying that he is hiding in the basement. he has even offeredd to send covid tests so that he can leave his basement. also receiving criticism from people like david aster audit and he needs to modernize his campaign, worried that he looks

like a candidate confined to his basement. as you pointed out, he tried to do that. he tried to modernize his campaign into this virtual town hall, but they had some technical problems. watchh this. >> have you introduced me, the sound?ou good evening, thank you for tuning in. i wish we could've done this together and gone a little bit more smoothly, but i'm grateful that we are able to connect virtually. and thank you for your kind words -- at this moment. >> tucker: i am seeing trails, i just had flashbacks. that really rattled me. >> it's funding, because "vice" has i an article saying it lookd like it was run by local seniors putting on their first zoom meeting. but that was not it.

watch this. >> we can come out the other -- so strong, so much kinder -- more resilient [squeaking] god bless you all, and may god protect our country. >> tucker: i feel like i'm watching a fish show. >> so many glitches. so it's a technical glitch that were not enough, you had the chirping bird in the background, essentially serving, doing a better job than protesters would. so it was not a smashing success by any means, but what is interesting, tucker, because of the coronavirus campaigning this election cycle could look a little different. campaigns will probably be forced to modernize and go digital, and that will be challenging for a campaign who vecannot even put on a virtual town hall for a guy who did a bus tour called the no malarkey tour, it might've been cool in

the 1920s, and compare that with a trump campaign who has put a digital emphasis on the campaign by virtue of having the previous digital campaign manager. so i think that that will be a challenge for the joe biden campaign that has been criticized previously were really running this antiquated old fashion campaign to have to modernize to a new era of campaigning.t' >> tucker: is a little weird, because the democratic party is the party of silicon valley and hollywood. and one thing they are always good at is advertising and coming up with kind of slick text-based information campaigns. what is that? do you know? >> when we saw that with obama, but not so much with joe biden, and you know, hillary clinton's campaign did not do as good of a job as the trump campaign, they were really emphasized on that digital, and they are again in 2020, but i will be interesting how it plays out.ut

but joe biden is trying to create a little bit of buzz, but doing it with crossword puzzles, so you test a certain number and a crossword puzzle to get to know joe, and they ask you about his favorite dinner, ice cream, so, they are trying to, but it is just naturally hip and cool or modernized. and i do think this will be a fascinating election. yes, a crossword puzzle. >> tucker: are they incorporatinguc shuffleboard? >> not that i know of, but you omght be giving some ideas if they are watching. >> tucker: based totally showed, and do it quick, though, the all-you-can-eat buffet starts at 4:15. you rattled me. i'm ready for the weekend now. great to see you. thank you. >> [laughs] thanks, tucker. >> tucker: have a great weekend. and we hope that you have a great weekend, we see this every friday, but it is always felt

with the ones you love, and we will see you back monday. sean hannity takes over next from new york tonight. ♪ ♪ >> hannity: welcome to "hannity," we wrap up what has been a historic week for truth and justice, a lot of us did not know this week would come, finally it has come in this country and is only the beginning. the russia collusion hoax has been brought to its knees, and we have much more that will be coming in the days and weeks and months to follow. that i can assure you. the corrupt, the compromise, that guy, the congenital liar, everything i've been telling about him is true. facing public embarrassment and may not know it yet. lieutenant general michael flynn has been exonerated by the way, judge emmet sullivan, your