judge denied their bail request today so they remain in custody. but a lot in question and a lot of people -- >> sean: why did it take so long? we've got to get to the bottom of it. thank you. let not your heart be troubled. >> raymond: i'm raymond arroyo filling in for laura ingraham and this is "the ingraham angle" on a very busy friday night. today's jobs report madeil it clear that up permanent locked and is not sustainable so why are some governors tightening their restrictions? former governor mike huckabee with a can't-miss message in moments.le learned yesterday that former president obama knew about the investigation into general michael flynn. should that set off alarms? who else knew? first ever official of intel at the fbi is here to tell us why they started at the top and what it means. plus, i couldn't forget friday follies because i'm hosting. we are going to get into

joe biden's very bad week and a coronavirus challenge. but with laura out, join me to find out. and laura will be here later in the show with an important update to a story we did two weeks ago. but first, on this 53rd day of america in shutdown, if you look closely across the country, we are seeing a confrontation, oney that will likely be with us for a while. liberty birth is locked down. as the virus burns itself out, which appears to be the case throughout the united states, there is an urge to return to life, but some blue state governors and mayors are unilaterally extending their stay-at-home orders, despite the situation on the ground and the will of the people. now granted, new york is a covid exception. it's a hot spot of the country and according to a new analyst -- a new analysis, rather, by yale epidemiologist, new york was likely the gateway

for the spread of covid to many other parts of the country. here's governor andrew cuomo on shutdowns. listen. >> i am a show me the facts and the numbers kind of guy. we've seen what happens when you go by gut instinct and by emotion and by politics. now, the science is contrary to emotions and politics. >> raymond: of course, that depends on how you read the politics, as well as the science. here are some facts and numbers for the governor, courtesy of usa facts and the covid-19 project. 54% of the covid cases and 61% of the deaths are restricted to five states. new york, new jersey, massachusetts, illinois and california. when you burrow down the county level, and this is important, things are even more stark. 52% of u.s. counties have zero covid deaths. 80% or five or fewer deaths and 89% of those counties have fewer

than 15 deaths. look, every death, every loss of life is a tragedy, but we can't use the metrics of new york andy a national lockdown. the data, the numbers simply don't justify it. if montana or utah were epicenters of a viral outbreak, do you actually think new york or california would shatter all activity over it? i rather doubt it. the prolonging of the covid crisis is being used to deprive citizens of essential liberties and expand the welfare state and frankly breathtaking ways. in texas, an undercover cop, part of the covid-19 task force enforcement detail -- did you know that existed -- busted two women for offering cosmetic and beauty services from their homes. the women were in prison for violating the emergency ordinance. governore abbott has since issud an executive order forbidding the imprisonment of texans for violating theseor restrictions,

but in ohio, the republican led legislature took on their own governor, passing a bill that would limit the ability of the state health director to issue lasting health state orders including lockdown. we are going to talk to one of those representatives in a moment. the governor has promised a veto. michigan's legislature has sued their governor for unilaterally stretching her order until may 28th, without the involvement and agreement of the legislature. look, i understand, we are allrt in uncharted territory here, but before continuing the forced quarantine of healthy american people, which knows no historical precedent, shouldn't legislatures have some say? shouldn't the people have some voice? governor cuomo talked about science. here's some science for him. in 2018, the latest numbers we have from the cdc, heart disease and cancer killed more people over a two month average man

coronavirus has over the last two months. are we going to mandate the closure of all fast food establishments? m got to stop that heartis diseas. shut your mouth, save lives. let's require all americans to eat kale and skinless chicken. it would be less onerous and destructive than the shuttering of american life and livelihoods that we are experiencing now. but in america, people have a choice to take risks in what they eat, how they recreate, even where and how they choose to live. we now have more than 33 million unemployed americans, and every day, this lockdown endures. the economic and cultural toll will deepen. in the wing, politicians are only too happy to use this crisis to purportedly help you and themselves. >> we have an opportunity not just to rebuild the economy but

to transform it, building a new, green economy that will position us to own the 21st century first century. >> i'm excited to introduce a bill to cancel all rent and home mortgage payments through the duration of this pandemic. >> we've got to get rid of the student at the discretion young people appear to rebuild that america. >> raymond: oh, my goodness. a government like roaches the sconly thing continuing to opere after all other life has ceased. after a $2 trillion>> bailout package was passed in march, speaker pelosi was working on a sequel with another $2 trillion price tag. senators kamala harris and bernie sanders want the government to send monthly $2,000 to every american until three months after the government declares an end of this pandemic. by the way, that works retroactively since march. where's the money coming from to pay for all this free stuff? it will come from you, all of you. for the return to work now or

much, much later in some cases, you will be paying for this. the man-made disaster created over a viral one. americans deserve to be heard before they are presented with a bill by the same bureaucrats who have compounded their suffering and deprive them of their liberties. an those are my thoughts at the end of day 53: america in shutdown. joining me now is mike huckabee, fox news contributor and former governor of arkansas. thank you for being here. some of these governors in the states i've mentioned and mayors, they seem drunk with power and utterly uncaring about what their people desire, governor. what is your message for them? >> my message is pretty simple. if the people of your estate or your county or your city are not being able to go to work and get their paychecks, and the government official who issued the order should not take a paycheck until those other folks

can go back to work. raymond, if we did that, this ends pretty quickly. no member of congress should get a paycheck as long as we are in shutdown. no governor,f no mayor, no couny official who orders other people to stay home and not get theirsh paycheck should take a paycheck. if you want to see how fast we can retool this country and get back to work, mandate that you'll see it pretty quickly. >> raymond: governor, i've got to play this t for you, he flexd his literary muscles today courtesy of stanley.ve take a listen. >> we are taking baby steps over the last two months but we've been warning people all spider-man, with great freedom comes great responsibility. i won't hesitate to shut thingse back down if we see numbers going up. >> raymond: of course, the actual quote is "with great power comes great responsibility."

i wish he got in the quote right but it seems like he's set himself as the master of citizens 'his constitutional rights. what did you hear? >> somehow he's missing the point that this is america. i've traveled all over the world in one of the things i've noticed is that when i go to a country that is totalitarian and where the government t is really heavy-handed, it reminds me how grateful i am to be in america.a i visited some police states before. i don't want to live in one. there's a big difference. we have freedom in this country. we should be treated like americans and like adults. americans means we have some freedoms and liberties and we make some choices. adults, that means that we are not treated like first-graders. line up, will tell you when you can go to the restroom, and will tell you that you're going to stand in line and wait for lunch and you're gonna have something on your plate that's good for you and you better like it. if you don't, then that's all layou get. this is not how this country's supposed to work, we've got to

change that, raymond baird it's got to be now. >> raymond: there's got to be an entity's emergency orders. there must be some end. the governor of michigan gretchen whitmer justified the extension of her stay at home order until may 28th. this was her justification. >> we need to continue practicing strict social distancing. we know that even in this phase we are still safer at home, and that is why we will be extending the order through the 28th, because we are still safer at home here but we can reengage in e more things. but we've got to be smart about it. >> raymond: safer at home, she keeps saying safer at home. i guess she was watching andrew cuomo on wednesday when he revealed this chart that revealed that 66% of new coronavirus hospitalizations are from people who were staying at home and practicing social distancing. given those facts, governor, what is governor whitmer talkinl about at this point? >> i want to be very clear.

i would like to stay socially distanced from her because i couldn't stand that heavy-handed governing. here's the point she sang, where safer at home. you know what? i'm safer at home if i don't get in the car. i will not have a car wreck if i never get in the car.in i'm safer if i stay at home than if i get on an airplane. we are safer at home doing a lot of things. but the point is, life is filled with challenges, risks, rewards and we have to take a few. i think a lot of americans are really ready to go to work. >> raymond: i agree with you, governor. think is a much for your insight. stay safe out there, but get in the car now and again. that's a good thing. as governors wield more power during this pandemic, some local officials are fighting back. in illinois, the state's g.o.p. is slamming democratic governor j.b. pritzker's five phase plan to reopen his state. but as the billionaire governor keeps most of his state in lockdown and slow walks employees getting back to work, his wife reportedly skipped town and went to the state in florida. funny how the rules don't apply to everyone. joining me now, illinois house

republican leader jim durkin. representative, thank you for being here. he said the governors plan would destroy most businesses in the plan. what is your plan to fix a question like he says he is putting the health and safety of the people first. is he? >> we can do both and that is the role of the legislature. as the governor extended his second executive order, it has come to us very quickly that we lost a good portion of her hospitality.y. we've got to look at the numbers. right now we are at 923,000 illinois inns who have filed for unemployment. hospitality industry which is 10% of the workforce, 550,000 employees have lost 300,000 jobs just within the last month and a half. the governor's plan doesn't make lsense. it creates different regions that are based on metrics on when they will be phased back into -- >> raymond: but you andd the republicans in your

conversations with him, you suggested a regional plan, right? >> we did but his regional plan does not make sense because what he does is incorporate the city of chicago with distance suburbs of maybe 100 to 200 people that all have to live by the same metrics that are going to be imposed on the city of chicago. a lot of these areas do not get corona cases. they have not experienced the same suffering that they have in chicago. and that's why it doesn't make sense. the house republicans, we've presented the plan, which is to invest more control and authority with the counties. we have a state where we have a great diversity. we have many people in the chicago area where i live who have been stricken with illness. many haveea died. but they're parts of southern illinois that have absolutely no experience with the coronavirus, but they are forced to have to live under the same rules that we do in chicago because the

governor has taken it uponto himself to rule the state by executive power without bringing the legislature into the equation to help this problem. that is my biggest problem that i have right now. >> raymond: how long can he do that, representative? i've got 30 seconds. without legislative approval? >> well, he can do it every 30 days. there's a lawsuit that is currently pending before the supreme court of whether or not he extended his authority, but the governor can call us back in. hehe has the power to call a special session for us to be able to change the rules where we can actually work remotely. we can do this. his department of public health has put together a plan in which the legislature can meet in a healthy, safe environment to do our work. we are in the month of may -- >> raymond: before i let you go, there is a very controversial reopening plan that includes houses of worship, people of faith. he is saying no more than ten people can meet in any church. now that strikes me as absurd. i know there's a lawsuit going forward. your reaction to that when you're dealing with huge

cathedrals, not little chapels all over chicago and throughout illinois? >> i can walk and costco and there will be a thousand people walking around unchecked. but a church limited to ten people in social distancing, it doesn't make sense. so many inconsistencies and i would hope that, again, this is where the legislature needs to step into make sense of what is going on. we need to save illinois. i need to put people back to work, that's the bottom line. >> raymond: representative durkin, thank you. we will be following your efforts. over in ohio, republicans passed a bill limiting the state's stay-at-home orders to a maximum of 14 days, putting a limit on this unchecked power. joining me now is ohio state representative scott wickham who voted for the bill. representative, governor mike dewine says he plans on vetoing your legislation. he says you are creating uncertainty regarding public health and safety. you would say what? >> the uncertaintyli is caused y the governor rolling out plans hours, may be days, sometimes

hours before they go into effect. in certain cases the uncertainty comes from people who are 700,000 ohioans who have not received unemployment benefits yet. 1.35 million ohioans who are known unemployment, the uncertainty comes from your business, not knowing when your business is going to be coming back up or whether or not you're going to have people come back. that is where the uncertainty is and the certainty comes when i get 80 phone calls a day i'm a 60 to 80 phone calls and emails a day as a representative, there's 99 of us, we are close to the people. we represent main street, we have neighbors, and the legislature has to be involved with this. we have to know, we have to have some oversight --gi >> raymond: i get it. i want to play one of your state's local journalists. here's what they had to say

about ohio's version of dr. fauci, your health state director. >> has really pulled in a lot ofuc people, right? for compassion, her vulnerability. in a time like this, chuck, all we really want is comfort and she is comfort to many ohioans. the facebook fan page with 134,000 fans on it for dr. amy,o she's on t-shirts. >> raymond: is that what it takes to wield unelected power over the lives of ohioans? congressman. >> it has certainly become a part of their persona. some people look forward to the 2:00 hour where she talks about what's going on in the state but the fact of the matter is thatri have people calling me all the time. i know that the majority of the people i represent thought that this would be all over may 1st and that we would see a fast rollout because we crushed the curve, we never really had a problem in ohio.

some of our hospitals were ghost towns. the locallo hospital here basically had two weeks before may 1st, 25 patients in 175 hospitals and only six covid patients max. now i am very concerned about the estimated half, one half of 1% of ohioans who currently have covid-19. these aren't statistics, they are real people but i'm also concerned about 99.5 of other ohioans facing a range of health challenges as well, including stress, mental health. and do all to their businesses shutting down in their jobs going away. >> raymond: congressman, i thank you for your insight. we will check in with you later in the day. coming up, why was former president obama so interested in michael flynn's case? the first ever assistant director of intelligence to the fbi's here with answers. plus, there's the testimony of obama officials match what they said on tv? we will play you the tape. sara carter reacts in a

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♪ >> raymond: welcome back to "the ingraham angle." within the documents released by the house intel committee yesterday there was an interesting obama revelation. he knew all the details of the wiretap michael flynn phone calls with russian ambassador.el now, a detail that was even surprising to top doj officials sally yates, but should have been? not really, given obama's attention to all the politically tinged investigations at the time, from the hillary clinton email probe to the election meddling inquiry, but obama's involvement in the flynn case is troubling for a number of reasons. not the least of which is the fact that obama and flynn had an ugly breakup in 2014.in

most people forget this. during his tenure at the defense intelligence agency, flynn spoke out against obama's worldview. he was fired as a result. what do you make of all this? here with a unique perspective, the former director of intelligence d for the fbi. with all of your experience, why did the fbi continue to pursue flynn when they had a transcript and knew he had done nothing wrong? why do you think obama got in the middle of all of this? >> that is the million-dollar question. what we know is that it's been pretty firmly established that the. fbi had no business being n the room for flynn. that's the first part. there's three prongs to this, raiment, and that is that the fbi had to -- we had to establish firmly that michael flynn -- there was injustice done to him. i think the attorney general settled that with the motion

that was dismissed. secondly, there has to be some examination of what the motivation was behind that and thirdly, someone has to be held to account. the second part is what you are addressing here.e we know that from the three oh two that peter strzok rode that the interview was focused on policy differences between thetw outgoing obama administration and the incoming trump administration. i have authored and read thousands of 302s. i've never read one like this for the interview was centered on policy issues and didn't even address any possible criminal or counterintelligence, or predication. the logan act is a deflection, it was never taken seriously. >> raymond: that's an old relic, he never should've been invoked. andrew mccabe flat out denied any wrongdoing on cnn today. >> general flynn was not targeted. he was properly investigated in a well predicated case, case

that's been proven, not just by those of us who were involved, but later by the mueller investigation. had reason to believe he presented a threat to national security. i still think that those things are worthy of investigation. >> raymond: kevin, was whatng happened to general flynn at your idea of a properly investigated case, first of all? what's wrong with that? >> what andy mccabe just said there is an untruth and it's been established. if you look at the fbi's own documents that have been released, these documents are very telling. they document that there was never t a significant predicatin to open up a case against him in the first place. they found no derogatory information, no reason to keep the case open and they were not to continue with an interview of the general. peter strzok and andy mccabe grabbed that, case closed, and decided to construct some type of artifice to go in and talk to the general, took advantage of a

disorganized trump administration. they had no business being in that office. >> raymond: kevin, all day long i've been hearing that this is normal operating procedure for the president to be involved in these national security issues. no problem here. why was sally yates surprised, then, that he had knowledge of the surveillance? very quickly. >> i think the fact that the took place between her and our plan and the ambassador was an interest to the obama administration because of the possible change in policies and be because of the possible distaste for general flynn. i think they saw this as an opportunity disrupt the general and i think what we have to find out, this is critically important, that the fbi conducted this interview at the behest of the white house. or it was motivated by their own now well-established personal biases and m prejudices against

the president. that has to be determined. if it's the former -- if it's either, it's abominable but it's the former, then it has to be fleshed out. >> raymond: breaking moments ago yahoo news is reporting that president barack obama in a private club with former members of his administration said this: the fact that there is no president for anybody, that anybody could find, for someone at who has been charged with perjury, just getting out scot-free, that's the kind of stuff where you begin to get worried that our basic understanding of the rule of law is at risk. kevin, your response? >> my response to that is the rule of law was conducting an investigation that was not legally predicated. so if i go in and i talked to you about something that is not a federal crime, as an fbi agent, and i accuse you of doing it and i have proof you did it t but it's not a federal crime, and you lied to me, there's no materiality there because

there's no reason for me to be investigatingme in the first place. >> raymond: because i'm lying to you about things that are noncriminal and not relevant. >> exactly, and that is what attorney general barr points out in his motion. mary and heather -- >> raymond: we are going to leave it there but we will restart this very soon. thank you so much for your insight. yesterday, the house intelligence committee released the transcripts from its long-running russia investigation. perhaps the most significant revelation was that a slew of obama officials under the committee, they told the committee under oath that they saw no evidence of collusion. we at "the ingraham angle" thought, wouldn't it be interesting to see if their closed-door statements match their public television appearances? let's start with susan rice, obama's former national security advisor that is known for lying on every single sunday show about benghazi. rice said this to abc in the

summer. s >> i don't know what his motivations are. i think that is a legitimate question. >> raymond: so she tells america it is a legitimate question but just months earlier she told the intel committee, under oath, she didn't recall intelligence of aat conspiracy prior to my departure. then there is james clapper, the former director of national intelligence and virulent trump hater who peddled this on cnn. >> do you agree with andrew mccabe that it's possible that the president of the united states is a russian asset? >> well, i completely agree with the way and he characterized it. the house: but to intel committee, i never saw any direct, empirical evidence that the trump campaign or someone and it was conspiring in the trump election. and, the surety that bob mueller was building an airtight case. >> bob mueller is building a

case to very high levels around trump. >> be specific, very high levels around trump. what do you suspect is going to happen? >> only bob mueller knows that but i think there's a lot of smoke and i would suspect there is fire there. d months prior, telling the committee under penalty of perjury, i saw indicationss of potential coordination, but i did not see, you know, the specific actions of the trump campaign. we could go on and on. we know intel officials can be two faced but the duplicity on display from these obama administration partisans only pham the claims for this impeachment fight. joining me now, sara carter, fox news contributor, host of the sara carter podcast. i'm going to start with you. they knew all along that it was a sham and they still trottedrt out the same attacks.

your take? >> this is a cabal of liars of the obama administration. senior officials, you have to ask yourself, raymond, one question. they all stuck with the same exact propaganda. at the same exact his information that the trump administration, that the trump campaign conspired with russia, even though they had no evidence whatsoever and they manufactured that evidence against the rupresident. and this is why, raiment, all of them need to be investigated because what they did here is not only a threat to our national security, they basically told a lie across the globe and divided our nation for more than three years, and eventually someone is going to pay the price for this and i think this is exactly why john durham and attorney general william barr is conducting this investigation so thoroughly, because what they did as a crime against the american people.on >> raymond: the left is now using flynn's vindication really to justify so much here is an excuse to resurrect the russia

hoax. listen. >> the dismissal of charges against flynn in the conversation by the president by vladimir putin, that is not a coincidence. >> actually think that's what donald trump wants. so, this is a gift to the kremlin. >> bet on it. if he can get to the facts, he will. >> raymond: will the resistance ever move past the russian collusion conspiracy theory? >> no, they will never give up the ghost. what is amazing, about 53 people who were interviewed and we saw in the last 40 hours, these were people who had access to evidence and yet when asked if there was any evidence of collusion, they said no. and then most of them said, but, i've been reading stories about her and hearing on television, the media has been saying that. think about how incredibly stupid that is.

these people are either terminally biased or incredibly eedumb. the collusion hoax was driven in large part by adam schiff and his sycophants in the media. they didn't have the evidence, so they invented it with poorly sourced stories. they were being fed disinformation by people like brennan and clapper. clapper is the one on msnbc, he told mitchell that there is evidence of collusion between trump and russia, he said russians have something on trump and they're going to expose it. and of course andrew mccabe when he was peddling his books said on cnn that he thought it was possible that trump is still a russian asset. all three of those people i named knew that was untrue, but they didn't care. >> raymond: i want to go to you for moment. why is it that obama asks comey

and yates, how should we treat michael flynn? why does he ask that question to them in a private meeting in the oval office? >> i think that is pretty evident because he along with michael flynn had a very divisive relationship. when michael flynn challenged him on the narrative that he was dreading that al qaeda was on the run and that isis was just this jv team, michael flynn was not going to accept that. he also wasn't going to accept the fact that there were serious problems within the intelligence community and he challengedng president obama on that. in the beginning it was a good relationship. i remember that, they had a good relationship and then it broke apart. i want to remind you of one thing that a lot of people don't remember, that meeting that president trump, the very first meeting he had with president obama at the white house. when president obama put a seed in president trump's head, saying, i only have one person i

want to warn you about and that is mike flynn, and o the reason they wanted mike flynn out was because he was the only one in the administration that really understood the intelligence community and he was going to catch all of that, and what they were doing, which is what they were trying to do was break the administration apart and remove president trump. >> raymond: this morning -- very quickly, want your reaction to this. he spoke about what may come next. listen.mo >> there's more to come, from what i understand, and they're going to be far greater than what you've seen so far in what you've seen so far is incredible, especially as it relates to presidenten obama, because if anyone thinks that he and sleepy joe biden didn't know what was going on, they have reanother think coming. >> raymond: could more revelations come forward to show that this was orchestrated from the top and what do you make of biden's involvement, very quickly. >> there was a pivotal meeting on january 5th, 2017, before the inauguration in the oval office. president trump, biden, comey,yl klapper, gates, susan rice, and

the product of that meeting was theva acceleration of an investigation of michael flynn that the field office in washington had already shut down. it was resurrected by peter strzok at the behest of comey and mccabe. so i think you're going to find out that the obama white house had their fingerprints all over the russia hoax. >> raymond: we shall see and we will be in touch with both of you. for years, thank you for your work on the story detailing what happened. have a great night. thank you. coming up, joe biden and his terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day. plus, friday follies with a special guest, next. when we started our business

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>> raymond: it's friday, which means it's time for friday follies. a town hall truly for the birds, frankly all wit. joining me now to hash out all the details, our surprise guest, rachel duffy, thanks for joining me for the frolics here. by now we've come to the conclusion that joe biden's virtual town halls are not working. every moment produces a moment that goes viral and yesterday wass no exception. this man never seems to know where he is or what's going on. >> is this on? thank you so much for tuning in. i wish we could've done this

together, would've gone a little bit more smoothly, but -- >> raymond: biden truly saved the best for last. he ended this with a flourish but nature couldn't cooperate, or wouldn't. >> we could come out the other -- so much more resilient -- [bird whistling] we need to remember who we are. we're the united states of america. nothing we cannot accomplisher f we work together. >> raymond: i think i liked it better a with the bird. rachel, given the missteps, the basement may be the safest place biden could be during the campaign here. >> this is the disaster for the

biden campaign and they were channeling how we all felt. i don't think i could've watched that had you not put me up to it, raymond. this is unwatchable and it saida so much about his campaign that they couldn't even get this right. when they're not managing travel, this is all they have to do to get right and they're telling the american people that they want to hand over the country to them. it's really shocking. >> raymond: it's a tragedy. the poor man can't read the prompter either. i have to show you this. the biden campaign released this video. i haven't seen anywhere. this is how joe biden is passing his time in quarantine with comedian keegan michael kee. i have to say it looks more lik visitation day. >> do you have any 3s? 70. >> yeah. >> 41 down, comedy duo key and blank. >> how many es in peele? >> three.

230, two more. >> raymond: if you are trying to project a positive, strong image don't show him eating the tapioca. it's not a strong look. >> you hit the nail on the head. this is an absolutely bizarre ad for them to put out. this is a campaign they are trying to do crossword puzzles,i and at one point in the ad, you know, keegan needs to go because he is so bored and you have biden saying please don't leave me, it's so lonely. this was a horrible ad. i don't know what's going on with this campaign. they are really not doing a good service towards their candidate. >> raymond: the image is absolutely backwards with joe biden. we've long discussed the mental health challenge this quarantine has created and if you need evidence that people have truly lost it, the pee your pants challenge. other idiots have posted videos of themselves wetting their

pants. this will look great on the college application. these people behave worse than animals. your thought on this and what this tells us about where we are in this moment in our sad history? >> what's interesting is social media influencers, and thisre is why people are doing , they i want to be really famousn social media platforms. they have more reach than any of us who are on television and what you are seeing from these people, to the one who was licking toilet seats in airplanes, these are people who care more about being famous than they care about their health, the health of hundred people, their dignity, and it's very sad and it says a lot about our culture because a lot of kids look up to these influencers. >> raymond: it shows the moral depravity of people in isolation. very sad. we will be back in a moment. happy mother's day, rachel.

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business is great, feels good to be back, doing what we love to do, help take care of our families. >> there's been so much criticism of georgia. the media just in a chorus of criticism about the reopening. listen. >> states like south carolina and georgia, it's just absolutely terrifying and it's reckless governance. >> by trying to push a false opening of the economy, we risk putting more lives in danger and there's nothing about this that makes sense. >> it's a new and dangerous disease. >> it's a very hard way to learn a lesson. >> the numbers that i've seen and they change every day is that the numbers of cases ared pretty stable, but those folks think that you georgians can't think for yourself and can't operate responsibly. what's your response, after a few weeks back in business? >> well, start a business back,

like i said, we've put in strict, stricter safety rules. as long as everyone is abiding by the rules, i think everything works smoothly. the strategies that we use, like i said before in the last episode, i s use disposable ponchos, hand sanitizers, i even have letters on the door. saying all the rules and regulations. businesses and owners of any business we can't operate were fully functional adults and we've been doing it for so long. if the virus is a both the right rules and put in place we can move forward safely. >> laura: how does it feel just to see your old clients. if i know you employ a number of barbers but that must have felt really good after that period of separation. having the human contact.

>> definitely come up for sure. if people don't't realize is a barber, where more than a person that cut your hair, where a psychiatrist and we're your friends and we have that communication back and forth. we come into the barbershop every fridayom for the one-on-on conversation so it's great to be back. if one thing i can say, for months being out with no hair codes a lot of people look a lot different when they come. they look a lot different. of >> laura: i told you we were going to check back with you and t believe me, if i could get down there, i desperately need a haircut. so i'd be there. >> i'd be happy to see you for sure.. >> laura: you got my haircut next time, great to seal. we will check back in a few weeks and see how you're doing. thanks again. >> raymond: coming up, i have news about one of the most upcoming offense in many months. i will share details when we

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into laura and sam and all the moms out there. thank you for what you do in a special thank you to god for my friend in california was out of the hospital, suffering with covid-19. shannon bream take it from here. have a great weekend. shannon: here is where we stand after the first full month of the coronavirus shutdown, the devastating impact on our economy, the loss of thousands of lives of a pandemic. unemployment surging to depression-era level last month yet the stock market hopeful pushing sharply higher