now. >> run! >> sean: hope you dvr, never miss an episode. go to hannity.com. my book "live free or die:d america and the world on the brink." let not your heart be troubled. laura, take it away. >> laura: hannity, phenomenal show as always and i'm glad you are talking lot aboutre freedom because we don't stand up for our basic civil liberties. even in our difficult times, will lose themes forever. >> sean: so serious. i agree. i'm worried about it. >> laura: fantastic show.ha we'll see you tomorrow night. i'm laura ingraham and this is "the ingraham angle" from a very busy washington tonight. how soon we have the names of the obama officials who unmask the incoming trump administration? congressman devin nunes. and "the wall street journal"'s kim strassel has answers. nursing harms are counting for an overwhelming majority of speed 26 death so why are the

issues of reopening ignoring that reality? we have a two-part expose later in the matter. any more evidence that democrats are playing politics with the pandemic, look no further than pelosi's new progressive stimulus bill. dinesh d'souza tells us how the left is using fear to push their agenda. but first, what would joe do? that's the focus of tonight's angle. like a rarely seen an endangered bird on its way to extension, joe biden was spotted early this morning on abc's "good morning america." so how would joe lead america through the covid crisis? >> i would tell the governors to listen to dr. fauci, listen to the science, listen to what the facts are.. this president has to focus on what's going on here. i'm getting really frustrated -- not you, this.

this whole notion that somehow there is, we can just open, we can move. >> laura: what? subject, verb, direct object... no wonder they want to keep interviews short and campaigning for joe virtual. the poor guy. but what biden seems to be saying if you can unpack it is he would farm out critical decision-making to others like dr. fauci and other unnamed scientists. lobbying the idea of rule by the expert class might be appealing to people like george stephanopoulos and people in the media, it'd mean that in the end americans would be poorer and less free. no work unless it's approved by experts.vi no worship services. no ball games. no concerts. no travel to see your family or friends. not at least until we have a vaccine. wait. vaccines, as we heard the other

day. there have to be many vaccines. as in plural. since the virus is mutating. except some bad news. your kids are out of luck as well because the vaccine wouldn't even be ready by september. >> the idea of having treatments available or a vaccine to facilitate the reentry of students into the fall term would be something that would be a bit of a bridge too far. >> laura: parents across america, let out a collectivew gasp. how was that based in science? all due respect to dr. fauci's expertise, no one elected him to anything that they are devastating consequences of keeping children away from school for extended periods of time. especially at risk children. we've been i talking about thisi think for five weeks now. do the experts in medicine think about the risks to children and two parents who if they have to

work as essential employees, they can't afford tutors or nannies. >> i don't have a good explanation or solutions for the problem of what happens when you close the schools and it triggers a cascade of events that could have some problems or circumstances. >> laura: i'm glad he was candid on that. he hasn't thought that through. the ripple effect. that's not his job. p i'm a scientist, a physician, and a public health official. i don't give advice about economic things. i don't give advice about anything other than public health. >> laura: dr. fauci try to clarify things saying necessarily that a vaccine is needed to reopen schools. but still, we all know that the only experts that would inform biden are experts approved by the left-wing media.nc for instance, stanford phds who studied this virus and criticized the shutdown, they are just ignored for the art

experts at all. forget the phd. the virus we know is killing americans we love. but it still far less deadly than originally l thought. >> this is a virus that reduces the immune response. and people recover. the overwhelmingly majority of people recover from the virus. >> laura: keep that in perspective. i'm glad dr. felt she kept that in mind today. we've known this for a few months. hwe know that new york and new jersey, a few other states accounted for a large percenta percentage. 45% of a all deaths, new york likely seeded the nation with the virus. we know under governor cuomo's leadership, people died because people sent back to their home care facilities ended up infecting others. but new york expects the rest of america to fork over billions to bail them out as it stays down definitely. shut down indefinitely.

how is that going to work? i dare you to read andrew cuom cuomo's 51 page plan to supposedly go forward post covid. i will just give you a synopsis. mike bloomberg will be in charge of tracking and training thousands of contact tracers. only 3 out of 10 regions meet all seven state requirements right now to start reopening. and it names bill gates as a partner in reimagining education. most of new york isn't opening anytime in thein new future. if you don't open, where is that tax revenue coming from to keep schools and services at least doing something. s online, providing services as they are needed. where is the money coming from? wait for it. it's coming from you, the taxpayers, of course. this is about remaking america under the veil of a virus. it's a naked power grab in the

middle of a pandemic. and it's disgusting. thank goodness president trump decided to let states trust their own course though towards reopening. because now you can kind of see for yourself what life will be like under a biden administration. what would joe do? he do what pretty much new york has done. or california has done. locked down until the experts set you free. locked down until maybe bill gates gives his imprimatur to a vaccine. our health care decisions will be informed by the w.h.o. and dictated by china. the new normal under democrat rule will be socialism for all. problems for the masses crimes for the masses. and the elites, their lives will not change at all. they stoke fear and move goalpost to overcome your common sense. that's what they've been doing all along. house democrats unveiled their

own plan to remake america today. a $3 trillion grab bag which will exposeer later. and it's everything from diversity mandates to aid for marijuana dispensaries. keep all of this in mind. as joe biden stumbles through carefully curated interviews, given his obvious limitations, he will be nothing more than ant figurehead president. we've said this before. he'll be shuffled from event to event with an emphasis on ceremonial duties. but this weekend at biden's remake is getting mixed reviews. according to a morning consul poll, biden's net favorability rating among women sled six. only 54% of democratic voters want the pirate tea to keep biden at the top of the ticket. that's a cerebral sign for the democrats in november. e

and despite why trump is still leading with all the economic turmoil in the bellwether state of ohio the democrats will keep this panic parade going through at least the election. what else do they have but fear itself? meanwhile, i envision a lot of banners with slogans such as this: "trump 2020: we trust you." "freedom, not shut downs." or may be, "yes to america, no thanks to the new normal." and that's the angle. testing, testing, testing. a common refrain from the left. but that's not necessarily the best way out of this. for example, washington went ballistic when the head of national guard tested positive for covid. before a scheduled meeting with the president. two subsequent tests including oneav today gave him negative results. so why is this happening? joining me now is my medicine

cabinet dr. stephen smith, founder of the smith center, and dr. remain does this reveal in parts little anecdotes, the folly of this obsession with testing? >> i think it's the tip of the iceberg. imagine you go to work in your test positive. you feel fine. no symptoms whatsoever. and your employer says go away, you can't go down i come back into you test negative. you have to sell corn h tea without pay. what are the false negatives and the false positives of this test? we really don't know. a lot of it doesn' has to do wiw the test is administered. you actually insert that swab as president trump discussed all the way into the cranium? there are so many issues with testing that it's clearly not a

metric. the only testing we should do at this point is strained testing, trying to follow the very strains and get a sense where things are heading in terms of lithology lethality. >> laura: i remember when he was excited about this new gilead drug, remdesivir. he walked it back a little bit, dr. smith, today. watch. >> let me take a moment to describe the remdesivir placebo-controlled randomized trial. we must remember, it was only a modest result showing that the drug gave a 31% faster time for recovery. we hope to build on this modest success with a combination ofru drugs and better drugs. >> laura: dr. smith, is he reining in his previous enthusiasm for this drug? >> it does sound this way. i haven't followed dr. fauci's statements on all the trials, but it does sound like a qualification.

not exactly sure what he said before about the randomized studies. i think he was enthusiastic about what you studied, of course, the use of controls having criticized some studies -- but not criticizing other studies. that's what's been strange about the analysis of data, clinical trial data. different standards apply given what is being tested. >> laura: dr. smith, i want to get back really quickly what we are seeing going forward on this hydroxychloroquine. again, we don't have the play with but sanja group said there is no evidence that hydroxychloroquine we heard about nurses being sent home given basically may be and pepcid ac who are not able to get hydroxychloroquine andd they want hydroxyl

chloroquine because of not being given by their primary physician. >> it doesn't make sense. there is one thing, interpret the hydroxychloroquine data. there is no data that pepcid and zinc? there's plenty data from other countries showing that this combination works. the biggest difference in the trial that shows that hydroxychloroquine works the increasednc dose of hydroxychloroquine. that's one of the biggest differences. the other difference is that the study that we've seen so far in the u.s., the hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin group is much sicker than the other groups. it's really hard to compare apples to oranges and that's what they arewh doing. >> laura: dr. oskoui, particularly patients a particular rate, has to be given earlier. that's what we gotha from your

analysis. in the hours after the hearing wrapped, the city of l.a. announced this. >> we aren't going to reopen los angeles or anywhere in america without any protections in the next three months. i think we know it's going to be longer than three months. we aren't going to go back to precovid-19 left anytime soon or jump forward to post covid-19 time until there's medicine or vaccine to allow that. >> laura: fauci said there is not likely any vaccine this fall. i guess we aren't going to open california. >> i'm flabbergasted. so much of what has been suggested here is not backed by actual data. the lockdown never had any real good data to support it. the understanding always with the lockdown was that it would blunt and therefore not overwhelm the health care system at one time. it was never going to be without risks. but to allow people like our

city or dr. fauci to make these kind of decisions is to allow the head of walter reed to determine whether or not we should invade normandy. it's ridiculous. it's not based in science. at least not science in anything but the 15th century. >> laura: social distancing, schools should be closed -- >> laura, quickly -- >> laura: one thing on schools being closed. there seems to be a lot of evidence that kids are super spreader pluralists, at least of this virus. >> also what's the end game, what are you going to wait for before you redo social distancing? thereor is one plus to testing. that's very reassuring when you have less than -- what is it, three fifths of a percent, testing positive? that's very reassuring to the public when they know they are not positive and that gives him

some confidence going forward. that's where testing has its strengths. and the new tests are not invasive. the new tests are just here and which means on the tip of your nose, we are using those with great success. people are admitted both of those. there is a benefit to mass testing. there is an enormous confit art level,l, and knowledge how the disease is not spreading out there. it is in spreading the normal dominant elderly people. >> laura: it spreading in the old folks homes and not as lethal as originally thought for most people in the population. >> this is the first epidemic we know of where we didn't chase the context of the infected people. this is what we do routinely with every infectious disease. we chase down the contact which what dr. oskoui is talking about earlier. i don't know why. >> laura: cinnamon, thank you so much.

joining me now is dr. ben cars carson, dr. carson, i want to go back to this, during the senate hearing today where lawmakers did press dr. fauci on the consequences of keeping school closed. >> y do you think the one-size-fits-all with a national strategy and nobody goes to school is kind of ridiculous. a huge mistake if we don't open the schools in the fall. >> has there been any risk ratio of the child, particular those -- >> there are deleterious consequent as having children out of school. i fully appreciate that. i don't have an easy answer for that. i just don't. >> laura: is that a little troubling that this is where we are, as a member of the task force? what do you think needs to happen now. parents across the country are freaking out that their kids are not going to go back to school nextto fall. >> you know, one of the reasons

that we have a president is so they can weigh all these different opinions that come from our time down the kinds of different directions. is doing ant good job of that. i expect the science arena to be dotting all the eyes and dotting all thel tvs an extra cautious particularly if they are physicians. but that's the reason probably they are not the ones making all the decisions. you have to have somebody who can integrate all these things. obviously one size does not fit all. that is so important. this is the land of the free. maybe sometimes people forget that. there is a reason that america rose from nowhere to the pinnacle of the world in record time is because we have people who were free to use their gifts, their innovation, the

entrepreneurship. we have people who were brave, people willing to take risks. unfortunately, there is no risk-free atmosphere. we have to weigh these things. when you look at the hotlines for mental illness and substance abuse, they skyrocketed in apr april. you look at all the negative consequences that come from sequestering people. we have to beginwe to think abot those things as well and the way these things but doesn't mean that we don't have to be careful. we've learned a lot of things. we've learned about hand washing.is we've learned about social distancing. we've learned to be careful arabout the things that we touc. all these things are important. and if we use them intelligently, we can integrate people back into the workforce. this country was built on work. it wasn't built on sitting around and waiting for the government to dome everything fr you. you concerned that what you are seeing in

states especially that have much of the state that's very little covid proportionally. very small. especially compared to the horrific flu season we had, which was one of the worst in the last 40 years, the last flu season. although the cdc can't get its numbers straight on that. are you worried that this response by some states and local officials is appearing to be more politically-based than medically based? >> well, either that, or it's a great coincidence. i'm not sure. i would love it if all the governor pluralists and all the local officials would simply say let's sit down and look at the evidence. remember for instance in georgia there was all this criticism a few weeks ago because governor kemp said, i'm going to open things up. he did open things up. have we had a tremendous bike

there? if we had, i haven't heard about it. >> laura: no, we haven't. >> we have to be willing to sit down and objectively look at the data and look at the data on both sides. what is the damage from contracting the virus, what is the damage from destroying the economy? look a at the long term and locations of that. and i think you'll come out on the right side if you are willing. >> laura: "the washington post" headline, i tweeted it a few moments ago, dr. carson. 100,000 businesses are set to close. more than 100,000 small businesses have closed forever as theas nation's pandemic escalates. that's a lot of human lives, don't you think? >> absolutely. and every day that we keep things shuttered, more businesses will close. there is a good thing.

a lot of the brushes burned off and new businesses will spring up. the infrastructure is still there. >> laura: dr. carson, sorry t to cut you off.si thank you for joining us. coming up, russia wanted trump to win? not quite. we will set the record straight.

♪ >> laura: joe biden h doing his best today on "good morning america" to dodge questions about the fbi's hit job on mike flynn. he deflected my he dodged, and he might've done it if it weren't for this follow-up. >> i know nothing about the motives to investigate michael flynn. >> you reported to be part of a 2015 meeting were you when the president wereed briefed on the fbi's plan to question michael flynn. >> i thought you asked me whether or not i had anything to do with him being prosecuted. i'm sorry.

i was aware that there was an investigation. but that's all i know about it. >> laura: was he just caught off guard or does forgetful joe no more than he we lets on forle joining me now, congressman devin nunes. and kim strassel, "wall street journal" editorial board member, fox news contributor. congressman, fox reported earlier that the doj will not release the names of the obama officials involved in the unmasking of flynn. so who can and when might we learn those names, if ever? >> we've known from the beginning that the only crime thatha we knew was commanded was the crime of leaking the contents of a call that clearly must've been an intelligent product of some kind. that was the only crime we knew about and still to this day it's the crime that still to my knowledge has not been investigated. the one reason that i'm hopeful, i have no evidence of this or any proof, laura, but perhaps

the doj is finally running an investigation. if that's true, there would be a reason not to put those names out. i'm only speculating, though. i must telll you. >> laura: here's what one of jim comey's good pals said about the flynn case. >> information that was released the general flynn, of course, it does not in any sense establish that there was any great misconduct on the part of the justice department or the fbi. much less president obama. >> laura: i'm pretty sure discussing a suspect is not encouraged in the fbi handbook? >> anybody who actually read the doj's filing last week and presumably this person did not, there is no way you could walk away and believe that the fbi behavior in this was anything less than reprehensible. there is a couple of pages that are devoted just to jim comey

about how he completely ignored doj leadership and acted yet again in an insubordinate matter down the manner by refusing to e incoming trump administration on the flynn investigation and the flynn calls which everyone was advising him to do. entrapment, deftly not a good look for the fbi. i think we've still got a lot more we are going to learn about that fbi behavior as we go forward. spewing congressman nunez, i have to get to this. remember count down the crowd strive? the company the dnc hired to figure out how their emails were hacked. here is what their ceo sean henry told the house intel committee in these transcripts.s counsel reminded me that as it relates to the dnc, we have data that data was extricate expo traded from the dnc.

what about the emails thater everyone is so, so knowledgeable of? or there are also indicators they were prepared but evidence they were actually exp expo is he admitting that four years of blaming russia for hacking the dnc on behalf of trump is completely bogus? i found that to be stunning, frankly. >> we have two different issues here. one is the democrats hired crowd strike and they refused to let the fbi go in and look at the server to do a proper evaluation. that evidence is likely lost forever. on the other side of things, remember, this is not been the big secret. we have been advising anyone who would listen that if you are a government agency, the department of defense, anybody who works for the department of

defense, anyone who has personnel records, political party, congress, russia, china, north korea, iran, every single day they are trying to get in and break into these official records. you know, i don't think it's rocket science to think that several countries, you know, could be breaking into government agencies at all hours of the day. and so i think it is concerning though that the democrats kim, , perhaps joe biden's running mate if she has her preference, she spoke out about what he she spoke out about what barr did on the flynn matter. watch. >> when you have an attorney general in the barr who allows michael flynn to withdraw his plea, that's not justice.

this man doesn't understand what it means to do justice and hees should resign. >> laura: he should resign. that's a refrain you're hearing from all these long time democrats, doj officials as well, kim. what does it tell you about the state of play on the left? >>th by the way, here's your si. whenever you hear one of thesesa officials say that this was bill barr's decision without referencing the fact thatnc he t a u.s. prosecutor, a u.s. attorney in charge of this outside review to look at this, a guy he was a longtime fbi agent himself, a career prosecutor for ten years, who did an independent review and made this recommendation to barr, you know they are trying to pin this on him politically and not worthy of listening to. >> laura: that's just fact number one.

it wasn't decided by barr! he farmed out to a career prosecutor who did make the decision and anybodyny who reada the document actually knows it was completely fine and made perfect sense. congressman and tim, great to see both of you. >> thank you. >> laura: is protecting nursing homes the key to reopening the country? we bring you the eye-opening data that should have officials thinking how we respond to covid. plusth the income principal rean that pennsylvania's democrat governor is keeping one of his counties from reopening. that's next. ing experience getting hearing aids can be. that's why i founded lively. affordable, high-quality hearing aids with all of the features you need, and none of the hassle. i use lively hearing aids and it's been wonderful. it's so light and so small but it's a fraction of the cost of the other devices. they cost thousands less. it's insanely user friendly. you take the hearing test online, the doctor programs in the settings. you don't even need to go into an office.

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>> laura: of course you know now about the appalling decision by new york governor andrew cuomo to force nursing homes to readmit covert ski 26 positivepatients. only days after the death of 25,000 nursing home residents, the highest whole of any state, but new york alone is in in tenstates.f that includes massachusetts where there have been over 3,000 nursing home deaths. in new hampshire and in rhode island, which shares over 70% of total covid vitality, and in minnesota at nearly 82% of covid deaths were among nursing home residents. a man who went through these numbers in painstaking fashion, phil kerpen from the committee to unleash prosperity.

do we need prosperity big time now, phil. there isn't enough attention though paid to the stats. when we talk about how to open the country again and protect those who need protecting the most, what are we missing here? >> well, laura, we failed the most basic contest of our response to the virus which is how are you going to protect the most vulnerable, the most at risk. we knew there was a deep age stratification with this virus. we saw it in china, we saw it in europe, very clear that the oldest and the most frail were at the risk of this. rather locking down, helping people, causing this upheaval in all of society, we should have focused in on where the problem was in europe. about half of all the covid deaths in europe are in nursing homes, long-term care facilities of different types that we typically call nursing homes in this country. we didn't do that. we did the opposite. it just wasn't formal, the same

happened with murphy in new jersey, with wolf in .pennsylvania. they require deters and homes to positive patients. they refused to allow the nursing homes to be moved to hospitals, in some cases to even empty hospitals. there are some stories of empathy hospitals saying no, no, no, we've got to waithe for the wave of other patients. stay at the nursing home and in fact everybody there. there were some really major missteps. the ones you didn't mention in the introduction with pennsylvania, they had more than two-thirds of all those deaths in the state of pennsylvania are in the nursing homes. that is not a small number because that's a lot of deaths. they had over 2500 deaths, more than two-thirds of their covid deaths inni pennsylvania. yet governor wolf saying we can't open the state in places where basically the only deaths like beaver county, the only outbreak there is in the nursing home and -- >> laura: this is what the cdc director, phil, about what to do

with the problem of the nursing home deaths. watch. >> surveillance in all the nursing home states will make in these states, the cdc will be doing that in partnership with the state and local territorial healthl departments. we get in front of this, do apprehensive surveillance of every body in nursing homes.th >> laura: is that reassuring? >> i'm glad somebody is doing it. they were supposed to be doing it. they did a very poor job of tracking it. the questions from senator casey of pennsylvania asking why aren't you tracking the nursing homes in my state. he said, ask your buddy the governor. the trump administration is stepping up. put out a interim rule, requiring weekly reporting of where there are cases and reporting in nursing homes and where there are multiple instances of flu-like symptoms if there haven't been testing

yet. public data submitted that will be posted by cms, also notification requirements for families where you will know if you've got a family member in a facility that has an outbreak. the federal government is really stepping up here for they probably should'veve done it evn sooner but they are filling a void where the states have failed. >> laura: thank you so much. this obviously should inform us going forward with the overall response to covid, given that we know where it takes place. phil just mentioned this, southwestern pennsylvania preparing to reopen. everywhere except beaver county. stuck in lockdown even though nearly all the cases came from this single nursing home. daniel camp is a commissioner of beaver county. he joins me now. why is the state punishing an entire county instead of focusing on the most vulnerable here? >> absolutely, laura. thank you for having me tonight. governor wolf's original plan was to require regions when it came last week, he focused on on

the academic island. we all understand his decisions. it's unwarranted and rational. having a large issue with that. our these other counties open up, we will go to other counties to travel. 70% of our cases are at this one facility. the people need to know that the wolf administration, they failed the residence there and felt the love ones who lost their wealth funds. >> laura: and a lot of businesses can't open in beaver county. the state is allowing the county's first medical marijuana dispensary to open. this is just crazy town stuff. commissioner, is this really what your constituents, many of whom are out of work, are really desperately desiring?

pot without jobs? is that what they want? >> absolutely not. our constituents in beaver county want to get back to work. small businesses that build our community in beaver county, they built theseor businesses for years. i'm a product of small family owned businesses, over 75 years. if we were here today, we'd be failing. we governor wolf is telling them to stay on the unemployment line. there are people who haven't received their unemployment checks since march. putting these money into businesses on getting an unemployment check, it's a failed system as well. >> laura: commissioner, thank you for fighting. thank you for raising this issue. and every county in the country matters. and every person who lost his or her life during this process, they matter. but we have a lot of covid survivors and a lot of people think the lead never got the virus, they also need to survive. they also need to thrive.

the stuff happening has got to be challenged. it's got be challenged by local to beals and it's got challenged in courts if necessary. i hope it doesn't come to that for you. but, commissioner, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> laura: and coming up, house democrats unveiling as i said before $3 trillion of wishlist radical leftist policies. dinesh d'souza will help us expose some of the worst of the worst in this bill next.

♪ >> the bank has told >> we are presenting a plan to do what is necessary to deal with the corunna crisis and make sure we can get feedback to work and school safely. >> laura: much of the democrat

plan is not about you. it's about them and their i radical agenda and left is powell's.an they think immediately releasingcertain prg marijuana business is an alternative to dealing in cash, and the blue state tax cut for her friends in new york. this is not about getting back on the feet, getting back to work, its pandemic politics at their worst. join me now is dinesh d'souza, considered in commentator and author of the united states of iesocialism. earlier today, you said that democrats are expert practitioners of the politics of fear, and that they are relying on the vulnerabilities, this vulnerability that theyy create to enact their agenda, rejecting fear and panic to push this multitrillion dollar disaster fund. >> when you look at the grab bag

of socialist proposals, they are actually a pretty hard sell because they don't comport with experience or reason and the democrats kind of deep down know that. what they rely on is the politics of fear. expert practitioners of the politics of fear. why? if you think about fear, it's fear of the unknown, it causes you to suspend your reason and do things that you otherwise wouldn't do. almost a century ago, fdr democrats warned us about fear. he said the only thing we have tto fear is fear ourselves emma and fear is kind of an american, fear can paralyze you, fear can become the problem itself. not for the democrats today. for now, fear is an opportunity. the coronavirus is just the latest. a generation ago they were talking about the ozone layer, running out of food, next is climate change. they try to introduce at hysteria because in the hysteria they want people to act in ways they would never act if they

gave up something sober consideration. >> laura: now compare and people who want americans to go back to school and work to climate deniers or anti-vaxers. well, can kids really spread the virus? what are the other consequences of not being in school for kids? they don't want to engage in thatou debate. you are a denier. you are antiscience. >> one of alexandria ocasio-cortez's chief of staff said a very reveal thing. they you think is about the climate, we don't. for us it's about changing the economy. what he is contesting in a sense is here's a chance to do things by invoking climate. he couldn't care less whether the earth is getting hotter or colder. he doesn't know, he doesn't care. it is a pretext for doing things you otherwise couldn't do. that same thing here.

a lot of these policy proposals have nothing to do with fighting the health crisis. nothing to do even with jobs. basically a way to introduce proposals they've been trying to push a long time but met the resistance of calm reason and political goods sands, and now they are hoping to shove them by because they think we are too scared to think otherwise. >> laura: to scared and too stupid. abc news was the only as a result, stephanopoulos got the interview with biden this morning. a single question about reade until the end, but little to say he let the nominee completely off the hook. >> i know you denied them but you also said women should be believed. what do you say to americans who believe tara reade and won't vote for you because of it. >> women should be believed, they should have the opportunity to have their case and stand foe it rightly what their case is.

that's the responsibility of responsible journalist like you and everybody else to go out and investigate those. >> laura: your thoughts on the deflections by biden that they should be believed and pretty much b it? put this story to bed. >> first of all, this story would be inconsistent if he said it was a he said, she said. what's interesting here is that tara reade has told a number of people. not only relatives, but a former neighbor. she told them a long time ago. there is not necessarily corroborating evidence for what biden did, but there is corroborating evidence that she felt this way before. this is not just something she's come up with now and that's the part that is being who quickly glossed over. >> laura: dinesh, thank you for your insights on the grab bag for progressive goodies. great to see you. and coming up, the biden veep stakes arere running.

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believe that we are obliged to serve justice to those who have been wronged. >> laura: you see how this is just impossible for them. we will have to pause there, stacy. the "fox news @ night" team takes it over tonight. it's going have a great >> thank you so much, breaking news, the plot got thicker in the case of general michael flynn. a federal judge decided to keep the case open against the wishes of the justice department so outside but is can weigh in on whether it is appropriate to drop the flynn charges, this is on edge over the decision by the acting director of national intelligence. we had over a list of obama administration officials involved in the unmasking of flynn.