>> thanks to everyone who watch the show today and thanks to everybody who got i will more ao avengers. sacred dvr or vcr or betamax or whatever and watch fox & friends. >> sandra: fox news alert, a judge pumping the brakes on the justice department moved to dismiss all charges against michael flynn. i'm good morning everyone, i'm sandra smith. >> ed: pleasant afternoon to you, i'm ed henry. this news coming as we learn more about obama era officials unmasking general flynn during the course of the fbi's russia investigation. here's senator lindsey graham on hannity last night. >> if i ever find that the intelligence community is unmasking my phone calls with foreign leaders where i discuss foreign policy with united states senator, heads

will roll. i find it unbelievable that the outgoing administration is surveilling the incoming administration, that is incredibly wrong and at the minimum unethical. >> ed: complete coverage to kick off the show, more in a moment with the national security advisor kt mcfarland. but we begin with john roberts. >> supporters of michael flynn thought that it would be just a mere formality for judge emmet sullivan to sign off on the doj's decision to drop the flynn case and then vacate his guilty pleas, but joe sullivan has got other ideas. he's now inviting outside groups and inside input and inviting people to file what are called amicus curiae briefs, so called friend of the court briefs, and invite anyone to weigh in. that move bringing a sharp response from michael flynn's attorney sidney powell who wrote, "the proposed amicus brief has no place in this

court. no further delay should be tolerated or no further defense allowed him. sullivan refused to allow flynn to file amicus briefs but because the doj has withdrawn from the case sullivan now says and amicus briefs should now be allowed when a party is not represented competently or not represented at all. or, when the and because has unique information or perspective that can help the court be on the help that the lawyers for the parties are able to provide. that advice is coming from a group of former watergate era prosecutors including richard benvenuti's day. they filed a notice with judge sullivan that they intend to file an amicus brief arguing, sullivan still has the authority to send him to jail. "no rule allows the filing of the self-proclaimed collection of watergate prosecutors has no

cognizable special interests. kentucky senator rand paul saying he will take steps to and sure with congress cases like flynn's will never happen again. >> i've never heard of someone outside of the government bringing charges against someone. i thought we were done with it and i surely hope that we are finally going to be done with it. the ultimate thing for us in the legislature is we should not let these abuses of power happen again and i'm pushing hard to make sure that we take this power away from government. >> yesterday we had expected we would see a list of obama administration officials that would ask for flynn to be unmasked in those intelligence intercepts, that did not happen yesterday but we are told it will likely happen later on this week. >> ed: john roberts, thanks for kicking us off. >> sandra: for more on this let's bring in kt mcfarland. she's the former deputy national security advisor for the

president. we are talking about your boss in his case, kt. at first, news that judge sullivan has decided to open this up to hear from third parties, an unusual step before ultimately making a decision on this case. what your reaction to all that? >> i'm not a lawyer so i can't speak to the ins and outs of the case but i can say that he was treated the same way i was treated which is ambushed by the fbi and tried to trick us into committing crimes that we had no intention of committing, trying to charge us with perjury crimes and, in flynn's case, they try to use his son as blackmail against him to plead guilty for a crime they he didn't commit. i wish the best for general flynn and his family and i sure hope they can move on soon to get on with their lives. >> sandra: you have said that you believe he was framed, why? >> for the same reason the approach was the same with me.

they come unannounced in his case to the white house and in my case, to my house. when they arrive, they didn't warn me about anything but the first thing out of my mouth was, do i need a lawyer for something? am i under some kind of investigation? and they said we can't tell you not to get a lawyer but we are here for information about what the russians might have done. sandra, i'm a girl scout and i wanted to know what the russians did during the election as much as anyone else. in general flynn's case that did the same thing. they lulled him into thinking, you are not a subject and not someone under investigation and the whole time they were targeting him and targeting me and they were really targeting president trump. for a couple of reasons. one, they wanted to bring the trump administration to its knees before it even got started. number two they wanted to protect whatever lies it now turns out that they were saying. and i'm saying with this regard the intelligence community or at

large. third, they didn't want to have the new administration and see what they had done. if they didn't want the new administration to reorganize the intelligence community which was our intention from the very beginning. so they set flynn up, they set me up and they set other people up but the real goal for them was to go after president trump. we were collateral damage, they didn't care whose lives they ruined. they wanted to go after president trump. >> sandra: you have come to all these conclusions yourself after digging through all these documents and reading through all 53 of those interviews, those individual quotes that were provided that you were able to read and your conclusion has been, as you just stated, that you and michael flynn were set up from the very beginning. what did you see in those interviews, and those documents, that led you to that conclusion? >> a couple of things. one of the documents that was

released said that president obama, vice president biden, susan rice and senior officials of the intelligence community and the fbi discussed this on january 5th. they discuss the topic of general flynn. president obama said is there any reason we should let general flynn and the incoming administration let know about the relations with the russians? now that was january 5th. i know from two weeks prior to that that when general flynn and i met with susan rice in her office in the west wing, an office that was about to become general flynn's office, that she was already withholding any information about the russians. one of the things i said to general flynn after the russian sanctions went on, i said you know, we met with them in the west wing office, here's what's going on in the middle east, and here's what's going on with china. the one glaring exception that

she never discussed was russia. so they knew from the beginning that they were not going to let us know in advance what they were planning and you knew that they knew about the russian interference. and they think that was part of the whole set up. >> sandra: so that's a conclusion you come to based on all that. you have ultimately said that your biggest question is, who knew what and when did they know it? you suggested names like susan rice, joe biden, barack obama and others. who do you believe have the answers to those questions? >> i think a time will come when this will all become public knowledge because people kept notes and documents are coming out now, not only in the testimonies that were before the house intelligence committee that were now just released but also in the charges against flynn and others. i mean i looked at what the house intelligence committee

hearings were and i did go through those documents so you had comey, mccabe, brennan, susan rice. others were testifying there was no evidence of collusion, no evidence they found and no collision between president-elect trump and the russians, they knew from the get-go come from the very beginning there was nothing there. even deputy fbi director mccabe, he and others implied that while they knew that steele dossier on what a lot of the russian investigation was based, they had real questions about it, they didn't think it was a legitimate thing. and yet they all went ahead. they went ahead with an investigation particularly in using the media. chairman schiff went to the media and he implied that he had secret information that donald trump and his administration and his campaign were colluding with the russians. brennan even had the audacity to refer to president trump as potentially a russian asset. i mean it, these people knew that they had a live but they

perpetuated it for three years and it tore the country apart. and why did they do it? i don't know, that's what i'm trying to figure out. what was so important to them that they were willing to perpetrate this hoax on the american people? and what their willing allies in the press. they trying to cover something up? i don't know but i would sure like to find out. i can tell you that president trump has reassured me several times that this will not go away. he's determined to find out what really happened and went on to hold people accountable. >> sandra: when you go to those of the highest nut levels of the government, congressman adam schiff and others, and the certainty with which they stated that there is evidence of collusion with russia, this is "the wall street journal" editorial board this morning. i will get your reaction with the minute or so we have left. all the adam schiff camp transcripts read, president trump often spreads falsehood. this is a quote, and advance facts. but at least he paid a price for

it in any media criticism and public mistrust. fact-checkers are dedicated to parsing his every word. after that no one should believe another word he said. what would you say about that this morning? >> i couldn't agree more. we gave a lot of these people enormous power especially after september 11, to investigate and look for terrorists and protect the american people. but they abuse that power. who knows what they were listening to? in fact even that phone call that general flynn had with the russian ambassador, guess who knows what was in there? i never saw a transcript and i doubt if general flynn's transcript. as who had seen a transcript or had a transcript read to them? "washington post" reporters. so tell me how that -- here's the thing that gets me. hitler's chief propaganda as said it, if you tell a big enough lie and repeated often enough, people will believe it. and i think wha that's what thi.

my big question is, why, and who was in on it and what do they know and when did they know it? whether that's susan rice or fbi director cal comey or even president obama. i'm not accusing them but it's time for american people to know what was going on and why it was going on and how far it went. >> sandra: kt mcfarland, great to have you on this morning. >> clearly the obama administration did not leave to this administration any kind of game plan for something like this. you had your shot and you were there for eight years. >> ed: that was senate minority leader may mitch mcconnell. joe biden firing back. he tweeted, this is a bunch of

malarkey. we left a 69 page playback on how to fight pandemics. make sure you pass along your notes to president trump, he could use them. meanwhile, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez could cochair one of biden's policy panels. assign the presumptive nominee could be moving further to the left ahead of the general election. peter doocy live with more details. >> good morning, ed. despite all the changes in the last couple of months, nothing has changed with biden's lead in a critical swing state. no one has seen him outside of the house since mid-march and his lead in wisconsin has not changed. still three points according to the marquette university law school pole. poll. but this platform may take a big left turn because he's bringing the champion of the green new deal, alexandria ocasio-cortez to advise him on climate change.

now says in the midst of the pandemic crisis we face, the democratic party must think big and fight to change the direction of the country. in the freshman congresswoman joining forces with biden now represents a big change since january when she told the new york magazine that in any other country, she and biden wouldn't even be in the same party. >> ed: thinks to change. are they get democrats starting to plan the possibility of there not being a normal look and feel of the democratic national convention? >> they are. they just had a big conference call with delegates across across the country and they gave the option to stay in the mix without traveling to milwaukee. the purpose of this is to say, okay. we don't know where we will be in august so let's give the planning committee the authority and flexibility to do what needs to be done so we have a process

that makes sense at the time. over on the republican side, continue pressing forward with the plans for an in-person convention in charlotte, but the north carolina officials in charge of public health like governor roy cooper and the mayor of charlotte with the power to limit or even banned large gatherings like a convention, if there's any interest of public health, now we wait to see what they might do. >> a whole new campaign. peter doocy, thank you. >> sandra: dr. anthony fauci me a lot going on the record with the senate health committee yesterday warning that reopening business too fast could cause a major setback in the fight to contain the coronavirus. plus, speaker nancy pelosi announcing a sweeping new coronavirus relief package. why republicans are calling it a liberal wish list. we will talk about that and more with the louisiana senator bill cassidy, he's

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>> sandra: fox news alert, paul manafort is on his way home after being released from a federal prison. his lawyer says he will continue to serve his sentence at home confinement due to concerns over the coronavirus. he has several pre-existing conditions. he was hospitalized in december for cardiac problems. the former trump campaign chairman is serving a a seven year sentence for tax fraud and conspiracy. >> it's about testing and it's about heroes and third about putting money in the pockets of the american people. it's an answer and a scientific in its basis and fair to the american people. >> ed: how speaker nancy pelosi touting the democrats brand-new $3 trillion coronavirus relief package. the measure includes $1 trillion in direct aid to states as well as local governments outlined billions more for testing and more direct payments to americans. senate republicans declaring the bill dead on arrival.

joining me now is louisiana senator bill cassidy. good morning senator. >> good morning to you. >> when you hear nancy pelosi say it's all about testing, then you look at the fine print, and something like cannabis is mentioned 68 times, what's going on here. >> currently she went to our committee chairs and she said give me that which you think we can maybe get in here. and it is garbage. >> garbage you say. i mentioned nearly a trillion dollars to state and local governments, some of them obviously hard-hit by covid-19.

75 billion for testing, 25 billion for the u.s. postal service. 10 million is small business grants direct payments of up to $6,000 per household as well. we saw the controversy in the first bite of this apple over the kennedy center and then some of the other payments that went. and a lot of lawmakers and some democrats frankly were on this program. max rhodes from new york said why in the world is the kennedy center in there? i know the postal service has been hit hard but 25 billion for them? >> that's all about an unfunded accrued liability in their pension fund. there needs to be structural reform to the postal service. my fear is if you give them the 25 billion without pushing for the reform, five years from now you will have a similar problem. now clearly some aid it needs to go further. the longer the crisis lasts the more likely aid will be needed. that should said, we shouldn't mashup together with the wish list and discredit the true need is people are attempting to

sneak in an agenda cynically saying this is about me but really it's about on the agenda. we need to stick with anita. >> ed: is so in your estimation if she says she needs $3 trillion more, what's the true need to? the first bite, the carriers act, the that's running out in early june. so are senate republicans prepared to block more unemployment insurance, for example or what is the real need? what's the real price tag for the next bite of this? >> we have to pause and think. one of the problems with the cares act is we gave more money to people to not work then they would make working. so the individual makes a rational decision, i'm going to not work and get paid more. economists across the political spectrum say that is a recipe for people choosing not to work even when they have a job opportunity. so, we need to take care of

those who are unemployed but it is wrong for society and for the individual to incentivize them to not work. it is also going to be a need for that support for state and local government. if you have lost her tax base because a federal government said shut down and now you are going bankrupt and can't pay police, that's an issue. but it should be based upon reality. moody's is saying, it reduces the bond company that rates state finances. they say will be roughly 300 billion for states over the next 27 months and that will be the shortfall because of coronavirus. then you put in another's large sum of money for the state government. then you are approaching something probably more like 500 billion but not a trillion. but i would emphasize that that support, the police, the fire and sanitation, we need for sanitation to reopen but it's not a wish list of a trillion but it takes care of all the other issues as we attempt to address the fallout from coronavirus. >> so your colleague from

louisiana, we played the clip a moment ago. he said nancy pelosi $3 trillion bill is as dead as fried chicken. your final thoughts? >> john is quotable but it's dead on arrival in the united states senate. the question is how do we get something that truly meets the american needs but puts us in a pathway so we can go forward as coronavirus continuous? >> ed: senator bill cassidy, we appreciate your thoughts this morning. >> sandra: more states beginning to reopen this week but is more stimulus needed to help the millions of americans who are still struggling and out of work? neil cavuto will be here to wait in the next when he joins us for the opening bell. if you're the spouse of a military veteran,

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his thoughts on that. >> instead of putting out a lot of new money, let's figure out what works and what doesn't work. let's provide some good low tax deregulation measures. president trump built this a coming up once can rebuild it again by focusing on those incentives. let's not just jump into something before we figure out what the last 3 trillion has produced. >> sandra: so what are you hearing, neil, is $3 trillion needed for this country right now? >> you know, i don't know. we do have word out of jerome powell, the federal reserve chairman who says, the downside risks are very real. he's talking about the risk to the overall economy even with all that stimulus that's out there. and don't forget the trains of dollars of that federal reserve has been spending to shore up the banking system to provide a backstop for businesses and the like. it's been buying up corporate bonds and junk bonds and you name it, just to support the economy. but just his musing that that might not be enough or that the

downside risk continues to contribute it to the selling. we were nominally positive before he started talking. i do notice in his latest major and i think you got into it, it's not exactly entirely virus related. there were a a lot of provisions that included money for public school, public transportation, food stamps and at the extension of moratorium right now, money for housing authorities. so it's sort of like a christmas tree chock-full of goodies that has nothing to do with the virus per se. having said that, i think it's pretty clear that another stimulus major is coming and its form will probably have to be a little different than what we are hearing, but it will be big and it will continue. at the trillions that we have already spent to goose the economy. >> sandra: you dig through that and there are some necessary measures in there, like relief for the struggling meat and industry that we've seen hit so hard. provision from hot businesses,

are some of the things you've pointed out, the inspector general provision, funding for the arts has been thrown in there as well. you look at the markets this morning and they are down 144 points, the markets were reacting to that hearing as it went on as well. talk about the possibility of relief for the american people, and also what happens next as reopening the country and the market seem to be following that very closely. final thoughts this morning? >> sure, and i think you've addressed this as well, the idea that the markets look past the here and now. they know the numbers are bad and they know that all of a sudden things have been cascaded with the jobs numbers. they also know hearing from jerome powell today that he thinks unemployment will peak. but the bottom line is they are not really convinced that states are doing this on the up and up and are doing this smoothly so that concern is carmen today. paramount today.

>> and you have some of these wall street's people saying the market is up in anticipation of the good and it will be a wait and see for sure. thank you so much, we will see you on fbn and fox news later today. >> ed: in the meantime, a memorial day tradition honoring fallen veterans is now in jeopardy. boy scout troops calling on the veterans affairs department to reverse a covid-19 policy banning groups from placing american flags on graves and military cemeteries. our senior correspondent eric shawn's life with details. good morning, eric. >> coronavirus has canceled at commemoration and officials in new york are demanding it's restored. for decades the boy scouts, girl scouts and other groups have placed small american flags of the graves of those who have given the ultimate sacrifice at our country's national military cemeteries, doing that for

memorial day weekend. but you know the department of veterans affairs now has canceled this year the mass flag placements citing coronavirus. in new york where more than half a million veterans are buried at two national cemeteries. local officials they are want the va to back down. they say with proper safety precautions and working with the local health department the war dead it can again be honored. >> we just commemorated de day, and this is the generation that lived through the adversity of the great depression and one world war ii. what does that say about our generation if we can't figure out a way to honor the greatest generation by placing graves, flags at the graves on memorial day? >> the va's national cemetery administration oversees the sites and that agency told fox news, since new york state has not lifted virus restrictions on long island to come the cemeteries there will

not, either. saying "families and members are welcome to visit over the weekend and fit place individual flags on graves to honor friends and families. karen monahan is an eagle scout and his boys served as well. they have placed thousands of flags on long island's national cemetery every year. he is now confident they can do it again this year safely. >> it's good to be able to pay our respects to our fallen heroes. it's important to men, important to the community and something that i hate >> . >> boy scout troops from maryland, missouri, wisconsin and california are among those who have scrapped their plans this year, at least for now. >> ed: we will watch it. eric shawn, thank you. >> sandra: the federal judge in the michael flynn case now allowing outside groups to weigh

in on the justice department's motion to dismiss the charges. how much do we know about judge emmet sullivan, the man who is making that decision? andy mccarthy will join us live, next, on that. >> i was a little surprised to hear that he was going to allow the friends of the court brief. i think it's time for answers and i found the judges comments and his action to be very unfortunate.

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president's former national security advisor inviting outside parties now to weigh in on the justice department known motion as the doj establishes a newly declassified list of obama area officials who pushed to unmask flynn. so you call this a bizarre order, why? what's really going on here? >> what happened here is there are a bunch of lawyers that are actually more ancient than i am that call themselves the watergate prosecutors and they figure the rolling stones still go on tour so why shouldn't they get the band back together? they've been doing that since trump came to office trying to get him impeached. they thought it would be a great idea to file an amicus brief to rant against trump and flynn in connection with this case, even though it's a criminal case we don't typically entertain amicus briefs because it's the state or government against an individual

and issues are very straightforward. judge sullivan who has been so unhinged on this case that he originally characterized it as a treason case decided this was just a peachy idea so now he is inviting basically an anti-trump group therapy session. all the lawyers out there who want to file and because briefs are invited to do that. it will make no difference in the end but it will just drive the process out. >> ed: it used to say that judges unhinged, let's show our viewers, what do we need to know about judge sullivan. here he is. first went through howard university and graduated in 1971, very distinguished. appointed to the d.c. superior court by president reagan in 1984 and then nominated and appointed to the d.c. district court by president clinton in 1984 and presided over that lawsuit to access hillary clinton's emails. what kind of judges he, where has he been on some of these tom perez issues?

>> well i think he can be a very hard-nosed judge when he decides to roll up his sleeves and do his work. he can be very engaged and he can do a fine job. but in this particular case, which he inherited after the plea, he came out evidently thinking that the case, which is a process crime that as senator paul in that clip you played before mentions was an invented crime should not have even been investigated as one. and at the time that he got the case, the prosecutor's or recommending no jail time. judge sullivan comes out and basically calls it a treason case and says flynn sold out his country which is nuts. so judge sullivan can do a good job when he decides to go do a good job but i don't think he is particularly done a good job on this case. >> ed: you said it was nuts, there is a broader concept obviously hear of some but going back to the obama era trying to

push a narrative about russian collusion. so trying to get general flynn it seems to me was part of trying to prove that narrative and it's important then to bring adam schiff into this. because he came out to the american people many times and said he had evidence of collusion. let's listen to that and give you a chance to react. >> there is more than circumstantial evidence now. so again i think -- >> you have seen direct evidence of collusion. >> we don't go into specifics, but i will say there is evidence that is not circumstantial and is very much worthy of investigation. so that is what we ought to do. >> ed: it's of the chairman of the house until committee still to this day claimed there was evidence of collusion. didn't have it. now we got ric grenell, the acting director of national intelligence planning to release this list of which obama officials basically unmasked general flynn. last i looked, unmasking can be a federal crime. anyone from adam schiff to the obama ad officials who unmask

it. will anyone be held accountable? >> lets remember there has been accountability so far. i know it's hard to lock in on that and i feel this myself but, notice that none of the officials who presided over this investigation are still in the same job anymore. they've been removed. so i don't think we can say that there's been no accountability, i know people would like to see a prosecution and i think we will just have to see what john dorm dies, he's the u.s. attorney from connecticut who attorney general barr has assigned it to look at this. i think if we are not going to get a prosecution, because this would be a very hard case to make it, we will at least get a report and a complete accounting of who did what here. but we may very well get the prosecution. they are looking at this as a serious criminal investigation. >> ed: we just showed the prosecutor doing all this, and by the way, you are not that old.

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>> sandra: two months into working remotely twitter ceo jack dorsey is reportedly announcing that some employees can choose to work from home permanently after the lockdown ends saying these past weeks prove that it can be done. brett larsen joins us now. a fascinating story. and i think one that we kind of all had in the back of our minds especially as a lot of these technology firms sent their employees home and there have been many reports that some of these companies have even been

more efficient with workers coming from home. >> you know it's interesting. that's exactly what we are seeing, a lot of these big companies were very hesitant to do a lot of work from home in the past but they have found in the past 60 days or two months or so that work efficiency is actually up. at twitter being one of them. twitter as you mentioned, jack dorsey telling employees when this is over you can continue to work from home for the first foreseeable future. i know facebook and google are doing the exact same thing. their workers are working from home but i haven't heard if they are going to do this as well for foreseeable future, and my contacts that i have at apple, same situation. what will be interesting though is when this is all over is it just going to be tech companies that are telling their employees that they can work from home? you have big banks like morgan stanley and barclays that have giant offices just a few blocks from our offices in midtown manhattan and they are already saying they've got tens of thousands of workers, they

don't need to put them in these giant buildings. the technology is such now that if you have a high-speed internet connection and computer terminal, you are connected to everyone else in your office and of course there are a variety of tools that you can use to communicate throughout the day. things like slack, instant messenger, google hangouts. we have all done the zoom meetings at this point. curious to see especially in silicon valley where real estate is such a premium, as more and more of these tech companies -- now google has a giant campus, facebook and twitter have giant campuses. apple has a beautiful brand-new campus they just built in cupertino. if more people are starting to work from home are they going to need less space for all the of these employees or will they switch to a model where you may not have an assigned workplace, you may not have a desk that is yours, there may just be work spaces available, almost similar to the we work model where there's offices and desks and conference rooms, they don't

belong to one specific person, you book them on an as-needed basis. >> sandra: well and i'm assuming you have, some of us have gone and reported from the apple campus in cupertino. it's really something because they had to do so much to recruit and retain talent to those companies. they went to great lengths. i mean they have child care available, they have full kitchens available, they did i say a lot. but now it could be a major recruiting entertainment tool to say, you can stay home, you can work from home. it will be interesting to watch especially as those companies have to keep their workers safe. brett, thank you and it's great to see you. >> ed: fox news alert, anthony fauci sings states could spark outbreaks by opening to fast but lawmakers saying americans can stay home forever. senator lamar alexander joins us

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>> sandra: fox news alert from the supreme court on a case that could have a major impact on the presidential election. right now the justices are hearing oral arguments on whether states can force presidential electors, voters in the electoral college, to vote for the loser of the popular vote. in another case the boat seemed divided on whether or not president trump has to release his financial records for congressional oversight. shannon bream will break this down for us and she will be joining us live leader in the show. >> ed: meanwhile another alert, the michael flynn case on the holder, the judge delaying his decision seeking outside opinion before ruling on that doj request to dismiss the entire case. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm ed henry.

good morning sandra. >> sandra: good wednesday morning to ed, good morning everyone. judge sullivan hitting the pause button and meanwhile the push is on to find out who unmask general flynn's name in a classified intelligence documents marking the criminal investigation that led to his guilty plea. acting director of national intelligence at rick grenell putting together a list of former obama administration officials who allegedly asked intelligence agencies to unmask flynn's name. senator lindsey graham now calling on grenell to unmask the unmask hers. >> the obama administration intentionally unmask a conversation with the incoming national security advisor to president trump. that is stunning. if i ever find that the intelligence community is unmasking my phone calls with foreign leaders where i discuss foreign policies of the united states senator, heads will roll. i find it unbelievable that the

outgoing administration is surveilling the incoming administration. that is incredibly wrong, at the minimum unethical. >> ed: gillian turner is live in washington with all of that. good morning. >> good morning tio. we are learning now that the justice department and ric grenell are at an impasse as to how to handle this. as you mentioned, that's general michael flynn. doj officials saying yesterday they have no plans to release those names of obama administration officials that he has declassified and is now planning to release to the american public. sources tell fox news that this is because some justice officials are not on board with what he is doing on the way he's doing it. he has declassified the names of obama administration officials that he claims requested the

unmasking of general flynn. he brought the list himself over to main justice just last week. so what is unmasking? it's a process of revealing the names of u.s. senate citizens who have been redacted in the intelligence reports in order to protect their identities. unmasking the identities of americans for political gain is a federal crime and it's also complicated in that members of the senate judiciary committee, the people that oversee this are calling for a hearing to unpack how this is all going down. take a listen. >> the more we learn, the worse it looks which is why we need a full investigation into what went on. we probably actually need a special counsel to look into this. we should put them under oath and if they won't come we should subpoena these people. >> the power to unmask and the authority to unmask the identities of americans across the nation is a very select power and authority that only

about a handful of u.s. officials in each of the 17 intelligence agencies have this power. we know for example that the nsa which has tens of thousands of employees only has about 20 who are allowed to unmask. this, we know from public testimony given by my cross last year. ric grenell as acting dni come at the top intelligence job in the nation, it does have that power. know whether he also has the authority to unmask and then release those names to the u.s. public legally is far from clear today. our intelligence sources, some of them, are saying that because he does not have a demonstrated national security reason for releasing these obama administration real officials and names, he is breaking a law by your planning to release them publicly. his supporters tell us though, in the intelligence community and elsewhere tell us the opposite, that he is well within his rights to do this and this is why there is an ongoing court

battle. >> sandra: much more developing on that throughout the morning. gillian turner, thank you. >> ed: we are going to watch that. plus more states easing restrictions in the push to reopen america. meanwhile dr. anthony fauci warning congress yesterday and that big testimony that lifting lockdowns to soon could mean a more outbreaks. senator lamar alexander was cheering yesterday's hearing, chairman of the committee on health, education and he joins us now along with his dog rufus who was the star of the hearing. senator, was he the one that was barking yesterday? >> that's fake news. it wasn't rufus. when he goes, it gets bored he goes outside and goes for a walk. >> so there is another dog. >> ed: i did mean to start with some fake news as you say. that was a light moment yesterday. in the meantime, mr. chairman, i thought a critical moment was

when the democratic ranking member patty murray pressed dr. fauci at some point and said if we open up too fast, you think the consequences will be dire. and dr. fauci testified, no i think they will be serious. so we have to take this seriously but how do we find the balance do not open too soon but also make sure we get this economy going >> president trump: >> well, we do it state-by-state. governor cuomo does it his way in his state and governor lee has ramped up testing, is testing every nursing home and testing every prison. we have drive through testing and you can get a test of the public health department. his motto is when in doubt, test. so if you are thinking about going back to school in august based on what you heard at the hearing yesterday, you should be feeling better because there should be 40-50000000 tests available which means he might test everyone at a school or everyone on a college campus and then isolate anyone who might be

sick. that would help everyone else feel better about being safe. >> sandra: thanks so much for being on this morning senator and rufus, welcome to america'"america's newsroom" as. you talked about the ability to open large universities and campuses come fall. you said you were concerned about that. while you heaped praise upon the administration for the number of tests conducted so far you suggested we are still not where we need to be to say, open the university of tennessee in september. what needs to be done? what are you calling upon it as far as more testing so we can get kids back to school? >> i'm glad you gave me a chance to do that. i believe i created a little confusion there. dr. fauci was talking about treatments and vaccines, that's what he works on. everyone knows that vaccines will be ready by august. but some medicines will be. the good news is that tests should be. if i were the president of the university today, i would be planning on going back to school.

i know many colleges are, but what i would do in answer to your question is i would test every student as they came back, and every faculty member. that doesn't eliminate the disease but it creates a place to isolate anyone who is sick and it creates confidence that it's a safe place. i would work on spacing, i would have administrative staff stay home who weren't needed there. i would stagger the opening of schools so that students arrived at different times. faculty members can teach remotely. there are a number of steps. at mass can be used, we may have to have a culture of masts on college campuses for a while but i think most students are looking forward to going back to college and i think because of the advances in testing we are now making in this country, they won't be able to. >> ed: but mr. chairman, shortly after your hearing as you probably know, the university of california system,

i think it's 23 campuses all across that big state said, no, we are not coming back this fall. so you have americans waking up this morning saying the chairman of this committee is telling us -- as you mentioned admiral gerard saying we can go back to campus this fall but others saying no. >> one great thing about our country is states can do what they want to do. tennessee colleges i think are going back to school. the president of purdue university which has 55,000 students, he's already announced they are planning to come back and they are dell developing plans at that university to keep the students safe and the students want to come back. so it will be a state-by-state end campus campus decision. but i believe as principals and headmasters and chancellors and university presidents and students look at august they will become increasingly comfortable with going back to school.

>> sandra: you know, i as well as many americans found yesterday's hearing just absently fascinating. i heard dr. oz this morning talking about how it was healthy for the american people to see this exchanges, questions from members of congress and these health officials at the highest level of the decision-making right now amid this pandemic, senator, talking about the most important aspects of reopening our country. you see rand paul, your colleague sitting there. he had this exchange work with dr. fauci where he said all due respect, you are not the end-all and dr. fauci responded -- rand paul was asked about this last night and here's his response and senator, we will get your response. >> i think he wants what what is best for the country but he is an extremely cautious person and i don't think any of these experts are on this sent. they have a basis of knowledge, but when you prognosticate about the future or you advocate for things dramatic and drastic like closing all the schools, you

should look at all the information. we have to take with a grain of salt these experts and their prognostications. the future is very uncertain but turning down and closing the entire economy has been devastating and that's a fact. >> sandra: so if you could senator, respond to that. and what was your headline that came yesterday and do you plan to hold anymore these hearings in the future? >> sure. well yes of course we will. and i'm glad the american people got to see that because you saw senators from the elizabeth warren and bernie sanders to rand paul talk with three or four of the most talented people in the country in terms of dealing with this problem and asking questions and doing it in a respectful way. i think it's important for people to see that. dr. fauci isn't holding himself as an omniscient person and he saying what he thinks is a person who's been in charge of infectious disease since 1984, since ronald reagan's day.

then it's up to the president, the governors and the mayors to take that advice and make decisions. if, for example, he said yesterday, in terms of going back to school, it will be a great surprise if there is a vaccine by by the fall. probably we will have some treatments or medicines. then he turned it over to the admiral saying there will be plenty of diagnostic tests. then a chancellor at the university of tennessee can make his or her whole her own decision about whether to go back to school. and as far as children go he was just saying, be very careful about that because it looks like children don't get the disease as badly as others do, but they carry it. second, there may be some things we don't know. there's a lot we don't know about the disease. dr. fauci is very careful usually to say i don't know where i'm cautiously optimistic. so i wouldn't characterize him as trying to be omniscient, i don't feel like he does not at all. he gives good advice and you can take the advice or an or leave

it. >> sandra: an incredible incredibly important job you are are doing there. i know you and i talked afterwards ed, to get that. i know rufus is enjoying this conversation, he rolled over at one point. >> ed: is got a nap going on. >> well that's good. we had a meeting about the shark tank, this new diagnostic test where it's like a lollipop and you put it in your mouth and know immediately whether you are positive or negative, or the new antigen test. these are the kinds of things that these talented people are working on and we want to create an environment in which the people know what's going on and in which they can succeeded. >> sandra: senator lamar and alexander, we appreciate you coming on and hope to have you back soon. >> ed: in the meantime,

afghanistan announcing its resuming military operations against the taliban after two separate attacks that killed dozens of civilians yesterday. the tele- band denying responsibly for the violence and our correspondent jennifer griffin is alive with the details. good morning. >> one of the attacks took place at a maternity ward in cabell and lasted nearly four hours. mothers were killed clinging to their babies, some of whom were just hours old. at least 16 people were killed including two newborn babies. after the seizure, the president ordered his regime resume attacks on taliban. >> to prevent the threat, i order all security forces to come out from defense mode back to offensive and start their operations again. >> it despite the tele- band denial the afghan government blames them for the spike in violence following the u.s. taliban deal signed in late february. afghanistan's national security advisor blast at the telegram on

twitter. "the attacks of the last two months thomas and the world that taliban and other sponsors do not and did not intend to pursue peace. the other attack killed two dozen people attending a funeral wounding 70 people in the eastern province of make a hire. the islamic state franchise claimed responsibility and secretary of state mike pompeo said in a statement "any attack on innocence is unforgivable, but to attack infants and women in labor in the sanctuary of the hospital is an act of sheer evil. we note that the taliban have denied any responsibility and condemn both attacks as heinous. the taliban and the afghan government should cooperate to bring the perpetrators to justice. i will point out ed and sandra that this attack on the hospital took place in a has our own neighborhood in cabell which has been the site of previous islamic state attacks. back to you.

>> ed: jennifer griffin, thank you. >> sandra: meanwhile, new pressure on china over the current affairs outbreak. two lawmakers now pushing bills to sanction beijing if it refuses to cooperate on the investigation. so what is in their proposals? congressman doug collins is set to introduce one of those majors and he joins us live coming up. plus joe biden taking some flack over his virtual campaign is staying at home pandering his presidential bid. >> i reject the premise that somehow this is hurting us. there's no evidence of that. ♪ fifty years ago, humpback whales were nearly extinct. they rebounded because a decision was made to protect them. making the right decisions today for your long-term financial future can protect you and your family,

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are somehow being hurt by my keeping to the rules and following the instructions that have been put forward by the sox is absolutely bizarre. i reject the premise that somehow this is hurting us. there is no evidence of that. >> ed: joe biden pushing back on criticism over his decision to campaign from home. coming under fire for staying away from the trail. all of this as democrats take the first step toward a virtual national convention. good morning michael. >> good morning. >> ed: biden says he ain't hiding. >> so far and rarely i must say i agree with him on this, is not suffering from any great consequences from hiding. the polls show him the leading nationally, most of them, as well as in some of the important

suing states. so far he's right, there is no evidence that this is hurting him. it's odd, of course, because when he does break out of this controlled environment he usually makes mistakes or slips up. whereas when he's in the basement he can control who he talks to. he can pretty much set the ground rules for the questions and there is no impromptu gaggle where he could be caught off guard. so, so far it's good for him but it can't last forever. >> in it right. it does not insulate him though so that when the summer and fall comes and all of a sudden there are presidential debates as we anticipate, unscripted moments. he's not in the basement and he's going to have somebody in president trump who proved to be formidable and those big debates last time? >> i mean, i agree with you there and i think that's when he will be exposed. we all have seen joe biden's infirmities and they can be distressing. so right now they are being

hidden. but i should say and the fall, it's hard to believe there won't be three presidential debates. president trump is going to take the fight to him, the president as he calls himself, the world's greatest counterpunch or, is going to take the fight to biden. and i think this obama gate to think that the has talked about, in my column today i say soon i think we will, here it called the obama biden gate because joe biden was present at that infamous january 5th 2017 meeting where the michael flynn investigation was discussed and his answers to an interview with george stephanopoulos were not very convincing. so i think biden will have to explain himself with some of these big issues, whether he likes it or not and that look come -- have been road. >> ed: it seems to me that gets right to the point of what you've been saying about this. he's down in the basement and he's fine, and, and all of a sudden he's asked about michael

flynn in this abc interview and he says i don't know a lot about that and then a minute later he says i think i misunderstood the question. actually he was at that key meeting. what does that mean? >> he did say, i knew they asked for an investigation. well, who is day? and you had nothing else to say. this goes to the heart of, i think, joe biden has campaigned as part of the obama-biden administration. now we are seeing in underbelly of the obama-biden administration if it's not so pretty. this issue with michael flynn spying on the trump campaign, spying on perhaps during the actual early days of the administration, all of these things that came out, all of these classified leaks. when you look at the obama biden administration and through that lens, it's not so pretty. joe biden i believe is not going to be able to escape the scrutiny. all the things that are coming

out, whether grenell is successful in unmasking the names of those who are involved in that sort of things, joe biden had a hand or at least claims to have been a very big player in the obama administration and he can't escape the bad parts of that administration now. >> ed: you can't just tell the good parts as you suggested. michael goodwin, thanks for coming on. >> sandra: fox news alert, federal authorities are issuing a public service announcement to coronavirus researchers warning that chinese hackers are likely targeting them in an effort to steal information. the fbi is urging those institutions to beef up their online defenses. this of course coming amid heightened tensions between the u.s. and china. authorities are saying they will release additional details in the coming days. >> ed: a fox news alert, investigating the investigators. as we learn brand-new details on the unmasking of general flynn, where it is the case go from here? congressman doug collins is all

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>> sandra: high-level members of the obama administration now

identified in a list declassified by acting dni ric grenell. georgia congressman doug collins is a republican on the judiciary committee and he's here to react to that this morning. congressman, good morning. your thoughts? >> it's about time. it's amazing for those of us who've been talking about this for over ai released transcriptn talking about this for so many years and nobody wanted to believe that at the highest level of obama administration's, joe biden can hide in the basement but he can't hide from the fact that he was in these meetings. now moving forward we are starting to see that it's all unraveling with a general flynn case and with the mueller investigation, it was all just an attack on president trump. it's time people start help being held. you had all these acting as a roving band of deputize street thugs going after a candidate for president.

>> sandra: kt mcfarland michael flynn's former deputy joined us at the 9:00 hour this morning and she makes the case that she believes that she and michael flynn were framed. we asked her why and here is her response. >> and they were really targeting president trump because -- for a couple of reasons. one they wanted to bring the trumpet ministries and to its knees before it even got started. never to, they wanted to protect whatever lies it now turns out they were saying, and i'm saying with this regard, the intelligence community or at large. and third, they didn't want to have the new administration see what they had done during the previous administration and they didn't want the new administration to reorganize the intelligence community which was our intention from the very beginning. >> sandra: so how do we get to the bottom of this, congressman, and explore the other side of this? where there are legitimate reasons for president obama to make these requests?

>> i think that's exactly what we've been saying for a while. it's time that the media, especially the liberal media who have been propping up the obama legacy for years and then trying to discredit any of us who actually attacked the clinton investigation, we were always made to feel, we were all yelling that nothing was happening. the truth of the matter is now, everyone has to acknowledge that this is something that was actually legitimately going on and that everyone in the country needs to be aware of it. when you have the highest level of intelligence from the white house to doj actively contemplating destroying a candidate and then destroying the early parts of an administration, that should worry everyone. these same folks with the badge have the power to do it to you and do it to me. this is something we got to be aware of. i think it starts with the unmasking at it hopefully starts with more hearings in the senate and continues for those of us who talk about it, making sure the american people do not forget the calamity that was at

the end of the obama administration that they set up from a very political hit job because they did not like this president. and at that time, the candidate. >> sandra: so you are feeling very passionately about that this morning and i know you are speaking out again also about china and its lack of cue negation on the spread of the coronavirus. senator lindsey graham has issued a new statement and called on legislation for greater sanctions, if china does not actively cooperate with investigations into the origin of the virus. he says this. i'm convinced without chinese communist party deception the virus would not be here in the u.s. i'm convinced china will never cooperate with the serious investigation unless they are made to do so. this hard-hitting piece of legislation will sanction china until they cooperate with investigators. so what do you want to see happen here and how ultimately is and will be china held accountable? >> we will say this.

senator graham and i have partnered on numerous pieces of legislation before and we will partner on this. it goes after exactly what you just talked about, china deceived the world while people were dying. they were taking precautions inside of their own borders while yet letting people go internationally. it's an investigatio time for an investigation to make sure that number one they are going forward with what happened, the chinese officials who did this need to be in a position where they can be sanctioned, their assets frozen and those are the kinds of things we look at in this bill. we also need to be able to make sure that there is no accountability for this. the president has been talking about china for years and he actually started this -- he started the travel's travel ban which actually folks on the left criticized and he understood this. but now it's time to give him the tools that he can use and we can now use to hold china accountable where it really hurts the most. in their travel come up their money their manufacturing.

also, we need to bring standards up for pharmaceuticals. these are bills that i'm proud to partner with and everyone should be part of this. china has played a bad actor in this and it's time to come into the reality. they will be on the international space and they have to play in an honest fashion. >> sandra: congressman, i have to leave it there. nancy pelosi says $3 trillion more is needed as far as the relief, and you say to that what? >> speaker pelosi is stuck at christmas time. she admits it's a christmas tree bill that means nothing and doesn't help anyone. >> sandra: congressman, we appreciate you coming on this morning. >> good to be with you, take care. >> ed: in the meantime, enter pole issuing a wanted notice for the wife of an american diplomat accused of killing a british teen last august. she crashed into a motorcyclist was driving the wrong way on a country road north of london.

she then returned to america declaring diplomat community. greg palkot has more. >> this is a potentially big development in the case of that british teenager who died last summer in an accident. harry dunn was killed when he was struck by a car going on the long side of the road, allegedly with an american at the wheel. the woman is the wife and of an american official working in intelligence and england then returned to the states claiming diplomatic immunity. she has been charged here in the death but it's been a diplomatic tug-of-war between the u.s. and of the u.k. ever since. the state department again this week said she is not going back. but the mother of the boy charlotte charles might have some good news this week with the claim that the international police agency, enter pole, as posted what is called a red notice which amounts to an international arrest warrant for the american if she is ever outside of the united states. i spoke via zoom with a very

moving mrs. charles. take a listen to it. >> do you and your heart of hearts feel that justice will be done? >> absolutely i do. anyone that has lost a child, they will understand that justice is the main thing that you need to. >> i contacted both enter pole in the proper authorities and they would not confirm that this notice has been posted but they often do not confirm this. i also saw an email coming from the local british police authorities to the family and that does indicate that it is out there. and again, that could be a significant element. back to you. >> ed: thanks for staying on top of that greg palkot.

>> ed: a showdown on the supreme court, the cases pitting the executive branch against congress. shannon bream will break it all down for us, joining us live, next. to every american family out there,

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>> sandra: the fbi has reported to release the name of a saudi diplomat accused of helping 9/11 hijackers. a disclosure was mistakenly made in response to a lawsuit from 9/11 family victims. this they have denied any involvement in the attacks which killed nearly 3,000 people. statement it's looking like a split at the supreme court, the justices apparently did divided as they debate whether president trump needs to release his financial records and tax returns in order to subject them to congressional oversight. guess who is here, shannon bream joins us live, of course the anchor of "fox news at night and covers the supreme court in her

spare time, as if she had any. talk about this divide, what's going on and where is the court based on the arguments? where do you think this is headed? >> they had hours of arguments. so we have two different pockets of these cases. one is you have these three house committees led by democrats who say they need to see the president's tax and financial records. so they haven't gone directly to the president, but they decided to do was to go to the financial companies he's used or banks he's worked with to say we want to get the records from you, a third party. as a second case here which is the manhattan that mike met office which is wanting to get his hands on the records going to a third party. the first case was arguments between those committees and it seems as if the justices were concerned about the balance of power between the house and its ability to serve subpoenas and get those in forest, and the presidency. there is the worry that want the house committees to have to show

a legitimate force in the justices said it, couldn't the house committee come up with anything and say, that is what we will pay get to? we need it. i think the tougher case for the president was the second one because part of the preceding -- former cases came up, clinton v paula jones where the president was pushed to commit to having a deposition and all kinds of things. the president tried to distinguish some of those cases. if you can't prosecute the president while he's sitting in office, so we will see. that decision comes in late june and that of course is right in the middle of the presidential election. >> ed: also, curing whether or not electors need to actually vote when the electoral college meets. whether they need to vote for the candidate that their state voted for which some people scratch their head and say, aren't they supposed to do that? >> it's so weird, we never hear much from these electors, they make up the vote, the electoral college is what actually elects

the president. but there are a number of these electors around washington state and colorado who said i want to go there and do something else. one of them is very vocal saying i didn't want president trump to win so i thought if i could get a coalition of people who could throw their vote to a possible third party we could upset the basket here and make sure he didn't get elected. so right now they're hashing out whether or not those electors have to obey the state, person or entity they pledged to go and carry out the vote faithfully in conjunction with what the state decided to do. but the attorney for the electors in the first case argued this morning, it's okay to make a moral or ethical pledged but not a legal full pledge. i have to tell you across the board regardless of ideology, most of the justices seem pretty skeptical about that and most of them seem like they would come down on the side of if you are the electorate, you have to do what you pledged to the state you would do. >> ed: got it. the michael flynn case, obviously a lot of people are fired up about this and you've

been following it from the standpoint of ric grenell. then you also have the federal judge saying i may not follow the guidance from the justice department, where is this head headed? >> it's not exceptionally rare but it is unusual that the judge would say i have this motion from the justice department to dismiss the whole thing but i'm going to allow outside parties who are not part of the justice department or his legal team to file briefs and give me guidance. there are a lot of folks who think that will open up pandora's box. sidney powell who represents michael flynn said absolutely not. there's been a lot of expense and trouble, no more delays and then the other side says, we want to weigh in. opposition should have it say, too. so it will be up to judge solvent to make the decision ultimately. >> ed: if you want more fabulous in sight, you will have to tune intimate. in the meantime, thanks for getting up early with us. >> it great to see you, see you

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>> sandra: an off-duty highway patrolman springing into action to rescue that hiker trapped in a whirlpool just feet away from the edge of a waterfall. joining me now is 20 year veteran of the california highway patrol, officer brent donnelly. thank you so much for getting here. that video is unbelievable and

you quickly sprung into action. how did you say that man and how did you first come to the understanding that he was struggling? >> i was hiking with my family, my wife and kids on a trail of their behind that lake and a woman had approached me and said there is a man in the river and asked me if i had a rope. she explained he was in the water above the waterfall and needed help and that's how i became aware of it. >> sandra: it's a 24-year-old hiker and it's a pretty rigorous hiking trail as well. so you were hiking with your family elsewhere and a woman comes up to you and says, do you have a rope? you are trained in search and rescue so what did you find that you had on you to help pull him to safety? >> well, i was carrying a backpack, we always carry our backpacks with us when we go hiking with stuff. unfortunately i didn't have a rope but i had the para cord

style drawstring that was in the backpack that i was able to cut out with my knife and make a rope out of the essentially. >> sandra: we are all watching this video and we don't get a good sense of the audio but you talk your way through the rescue to make him comfortable so you could get him safely to solid ground. what were you saying to him? >> i was explained to him not to panic. he was pretty scared at that time and he said that his feet and his hands in his legs and all of these things were numb and he was scared about how much longer he would be able to hold on. the water was fairly cold but i was trying to keep him calm and focused on me rather than everyone that was trying to shout out to him. because as long as he was watching me, i wanted to make sure he understood exactly the instructions i was giving him. >> sandra: did you ever get a sense from that hiker, have you spoken with him? did he slip on the rocks or was he testing the water, what happened? >> from what i understand, he

explained after the fact that he tried to cross the river about 50 yards upstream and it was fairly shallow there but extremely swift. he lost his footing and washed into the pool that he was in when i came upon him and apparently was having a hard time getting to the surface because of the way that the water was at the time. so he was able to grab onto some rocks or a boulder that was under the surface and cling to that until we were all able to pull him out of the water. >> sandra: that was a quick thinking rescue and you are getting a lot of attention for being a hero and saving that young man. thank you for what you do, what you did it, and enjoy the attention. looks like everybody is going to be okay. thanks so much, officer. >> think he'll, ma'am. >> ed: a good story there. fox news alert, mitch mcconnell and joe biden pointing some fingers in a high-stakes blame game. the reason for the war of words, straight ahead.

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>> ed: a fox news alert, federal authorities just out with a brand-new warning against chinese hackers that are targeting covid-19 research organizations. welcome back to america's newsroom, i'm ed henry. good morning sandra. >> sandra: good morning to you, ed, i'm sandra smith. researchers and scientists working on coronavirus treatments and guidelines to take extra measures to keep their online system secure. >> ed: at john roberts live with more correspondence. we had heard that these hikers may targeting research and other things as well. >> there's definitely a lot of movement on this. the dhs cyber security and infrastructure security agency teaming up with the fbi to point fingers at china today for exactly that. they put out a public advisory today warning u.s. research institutions that are looking into coronavirus and looking into possible treatments, looking into possible vaccines that they are likely the target

of chinese government hackers who are looking to steal that information and bring it back to china so that chinese researchers can work on that. here's part of what the advisory said. "the agencies are prime targets of this activity and to take the necessary steps to protect their systems, chinese efforts to target these sectors pose a significant threat to our nation's response to covid-19. at the same time that the fbi and see saw organizations are telling them to be vigilant, lindsey graham introduced a bill to impose sanctions on china. if it fails to cooperate and provide a full accounting of the events leading up to the pandemic. georgia congressman doug collins on that in the last hour here in america's newsroom. >> china deceived the world while people were dying. they took precautions in their own borders while letting people go internationally. we need to make sure that number one, going forward, what actually happened and we hold

them accountable to the chinese officials that did this. they need to be in a position where they can be sanctioned, their assets frozen and those are the kinds of things we look at. >> the president has been harshly clicked critical of china's behavior i guess is the best way to put it, during the early days of this pandemic. the president has suggested that china was not forthcoming about human to human transmission or the extent of the outbreak in china. it's likely we will hear more from the president about all of this. he's got an event at 4:00 this afternoon with north dakota governor doug burgum and i'm sure he will take questions and there's a lot to talk about in regard to that all day today. >> ed: john roberts, thank yo thank you. sandra? >> sandra: we look forward to all of that. meanwhile, a war of worlds as the former vp bends the obama administration's record on pandemic preparations. all of this after the senate's top republican went after the obama white house blaming it for

leaving the trump for covid-19. >> clearly as the obama administration did not leave to this administration any kind of game plan for something like this. i think it's a little bit classless, frankly, to critique an administration that comes after you. you had your shot, you were there for eight years. >> joe biden responding this is a bunch of malarkey and you know it. there is a 65 page guide. peter doocy is live with that story, live from arlington, virginia, this morning. hey peter. >> joe biden and mitch mcconnell served together in the senate for years but they are working relationship, if joe biden is in the white house next year, it

might be icy. >> his whole attitude reminds me of what bob gates who served as secretary of defense under both bush and obama once said about joe biden. he said he couldn't think of a single time he had ever gotten a foreign policy decision right. bob gates who worked for both george bush and barack obama about joe biden's approach to the rest of the world. >> joe biden hasn't left the house since mid-march and the only out-of-town event was event was milwaukee in august. but the dnc just unanimously voted to limit the scope of that convention to basically give delegates the ability to stay in the mix without risking their health and of rules and bylaws committee member says the purpose of this is to say, okay. we don't know where we will be

in august so let's give the planning committee the ability and flexibly to do what needs to be done so we have a process that makes sense at that time. and biden himself just sized up the chances of an in-person convention. >> i don't know. i think we have to follow the science, follow the rules and follow what the experts tell us. i hope we can, it may have to be smaller, it may be a different venue, i just don't know. it's a false choice between either public health or the economy. >> republicans and insist they want to have an in-person event but state and local officials have the ability to limit the size of any large gathering like a convention if it risks public health, and the mayor of charlotte and the governor of north carolina, the people with that kind of authority over a republican convention are both democrats. sandra? >> sandra: peter doocy, thank you for that. >> ed: more on this now, let's bring in martha maccallum. politico puts it this way this

morning. remember impeachment, it seems like a million years ago we were allowed to go outside and get on airplanes, there was an in-person primary contests in president trump held rallies that stretch for hours. we covered some of those and now we are talking about virtual conventions. >> yeah. it's so striking, right? life can be moving along in a way that seems somewhat predictable. we were digging in deep to covering this election and getting ready for what was to come in the conventions this summer and all of that oneness really blindsided the entire country and sent us in a whole different direction. you know, when i hear this discussion about the convention i certainly hope, as anyone who covers elections, and you as well, you want to be there. you want to cover the convention. it's interesting that i heard joe biden say may be in a different venue because one of the thoughts that i had was they should do them in stadiums in the cities and make it a much more open air environment that

might be a possibility. and maybe smaller groups is the way to go. but i think, there are so much politics involved in the reopening of the country which i think is so unfortunate because i think part of it, everybody wants to reopen the country safely. everybody knows that that is what's best for the country. but there seems to be a lot of sort of banner wearing over whether or not you wear a mask and all of that and i think it's unfortunate. >> ed: we had lamar alexander on the program earlier and he was telling us, you can't stay in lock down forever, you want to do it safely but finding that balance is still difficult for a lot of states. >> yeah. you know, what strikes me is when you look at the numbers, the thing that i am sort of very focused on right now is what's going on in nursing homes across the country. with been doing a lot of investigation on this story in the evening and you know in many states, 50% -- 25-50% of those

who have died have been in nursing homes. now, i'm learning that deborah birx, dr. birx wants to rush a lot of testing, millions of tests to these homes across the country and it raises the legitimate question, why wasn't that done on day number one? why weren't they the focus since we knew that older people were at the center of this? i think realistically looking at what's going on in the states and where the real problems lie is the way that we need to move forward here and then loosen up other parts of the country where they do not have the same kind of vulnerable population. >> ed: to your point i saw a very emotional interview you had last night with a mother and her son. he lost his father at a new jersey nursing home. and here in new york you had andrew cuomo who was hailed by many in the media at the beginning of this story but the nursing home crisis here in new york has just been horrific.

>> and why is the question we've been asking since day one. why were they moved? we heard all about the empty beds at the javits center, the empty beds on the comfort which was converted to be a covid-19 facility. why were these individuals as soon as they were identified moved to these locations? instead they were stuffed back into these homes in some cases where they have 200 square-foot spaces to sleep in and be in and they were right next to people who were not sick. obviously this is a vulnerable population but not all of these people had to die, i think that's pretty clear and we need to continue to release search a lot of resources to those plac places. >> ed: as we suggested at the top, we are still trying to figure out where this presidential campaign goes. joe biden yesterday was talking about a subject that you've spent a lot of time on and we have as well, and that's a general flame. let's take a look at how he has mixed things up. >> i know nothing about those moves to investigate michael flynn, number one. number two, this is all about

diversion. he should stop trying to always divert attention from the real concerns of the american people. >> yuri reported to be at a january 5, 2017 meeting where you and the present were briefed on the fbi's plan to question michael flynn. >> i thought you were asking me whether or not i had anything to do with him being prosecuted, i'm sorry. i was aware that they had asked for an investigation but that's all i know about it. >> it seems like that cuts right to the heart of what we are talking about, these virtual conventions that are a possibility. he's been fairly smooth in the polls when he doesn't get pushed by anybody and suddenly you get a reporter into that basement virtually and all of a sudden he can't quite remember what happened in the obama administration. >> i mean it's no surprise that he feels like being in his basement hasn't hurt him because it hasn't move the numbers all that much. but the more he talks and the more he gets out there and the more he's pressed on things, the more people will evaluate whether or not they believe he

is the person that they want to vote for. the fact is, and the fact he doesn't have an answer for that question right out of the gate is another signal of perhaps a bit of not being prepared for what's to come. that is an obvious question and of course it was the right question that george stephanopoulos asked about what he knew. he was in the room in on januart something that he is sort of scrambling with when he starts to answer. i think it is indicative of what we've seen from the biden campaign so far and i think once this thing does start to loosen up and he does start to get out there more he's going to be pressed on the number of those questions. that's the way goes on the campaign trail. >> ed: absolutely. we will be watching tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern and we will be covering that either on the ground or virtually. thanks martha r. >> sandra: fox news alert, paul manafort no longer behind bars. why the former trump campaign chair was just released from

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>> he was treated the same way i was treated which is ambushed by the fbi and tried to trick us into committing crimes that we had no intention of committing, trying to charge us with perjury client will make crimes and influence case they try to use his son as blackmail against him to plead guilty for a crime he didn't commit.

>> sandra: that was former national security advisor kt mcfarland who joined us this morning reacting to the michael flynn case. with now a federal judge delaying his decision on whether to drop the charges. the judge allowing time for outside groups to now submit friends of the court briefs on the justice department request. newt gingrich has been former speaker of the house in fox news contributor and he joins us now. would morning mr. speaker, i know you have a lot to say on this but first to the news of the judge in this case, emmet sullivan, now saying that he's interested in hearing from interested third parties. >> it's just one more outrageous effort by the full order, or deep state if you prefer, to cause pain. if the justice department comes in and says we are not going to prosecute this, what are the grounds for the judge saying, i don't care, i want you to prosecuted even if you have decided you can prosecuted.

this is one more old boy example of trying to do something to cause pain to somebody that barack obama disliked deeply and the fact is that i think general flynn after all of his years of serving the country and risking his life deserves a heck of a lot better treatment than he has been given either by the fbi, president obama or this judge. >> sandra: flynn's lawyers obviously objected to this and it sort of an unusual move but it does fall in line with the options that the judge does have in this case. we asked kt mcfarland this morning mr. speaker, what the feds, she has determined by going through all the documents and evidence that has been put before her, what the fed ultimately wanted by doing all this and here is how she responded. >> they wanted to bring the trump administration to its knees before it even got started. number two, they wanted to

protect whatever lies it now turns out that they were saying. they didn't want to have the new administration see what they had done during the previous administration and they didn't want the new administration to reorganize the intelligence community which was our intention from the very beginning. >> sandra: so she ultimately says her questions are who knew what and when did they know it? she threw names out there like susan rice, barack obama, joe biden and others. do you think we ultimately get answers to any of these questions? >> well i hope we do. certainly the testimony that the acting attorney general did not know what was going on and what surprised that the president of the united states, president obama knew what was going on but she didn't. that ought to tell us something is very fishy. the level of corruption that we are seeing, whether the corruption is adam schiff lying for three straight years or the corruption is frankly large parts of the news media

repeating the lies, or the corruption is the fbi's top leadership having broken the law, or potentially, the president of the united states having basically engaged in a vendetta. i mean, i don't remember any occasion in american history where -- except maybe lincoln in the civil war, where an incoming administration had this institutional hostility expressed at every level. it was an effort to try to destroy trump before he could begin to change things. >> sandra: we also asked kt mcfarland this morning about adam schiff at the highest ranks of the intel committee, claiming that he had evidence of collusion and why he did that. here is how katie responded. >> chairman schiff went to the media and implied that he had secret information that donald trump, as administration and his campaign were colluding with the russians.

brandon even had the audacity to refer to president trump as potentially of russian asset. i mean these people knew that they had a line but they perpetuated it for three years and it tore the country apart. and why did they do it? i don't know. >> sandra: i wanted to finally get your reaction to that mr. speaker. >> of course she knows why they did it, they did it because i hate the level of change that president trump represents and frankly as the former speaker of the house my advice to the president would be, do not give anything to the intelligence committee.

do not allow anyone to work with the house intelligence committee. as long as adam schiff is still there. we now have documented evidence that for three years the sky deliberately and maliciously lied. why would you cooperate with an intelligence committee chairman who is a clear proven liar? i think the president should just cut him off and say, when you want to get me an intelligence committee i can trust i will work with him. but this guy is impossible. >> sandra: former speaker of the house newt gingrich, we appreciate you coming on this morning. >> ed: in the meantime some california salon owners taking action after they live were left out of the second phase of the state's reopening plan. why they are now suing the governor, gavin newsom. plus lawmakers accusing dr. anthony fauci of being too cautious after he warned of more outbreaks if the state reopens too fast. all of that when bret baier joins us, that's next. >> the real question i asked him was, are you aware of the mortality among children, and he is but the mortality is exceedingly low, close to zero. should we say that all of these kids don't go to school even though the mortality is so low?

>> my concern is that some areas, cities and states jump over those, and my concern is that we start to see little spikes that might turn into outbreaks. which in fact paradoxically will set you back, not only leading to some suffering and death that could be avoided but it could even set you back on the road to trying to get economic recovery. >> ed: the nation's top infectious disease expert right there, dr. anthony fauci with a warning about reopening the

country to fast, stark contrast to president trump's been pushing to get the economy goi going. bret baier, we had you on your way into the hearing and we want to get your thoughts now that you've had a chance to digest it. one moment that stood out to me was when patty murray said you are saying if we move too fast or be up in the economy the consequences will be dire. she used the word dyer. he came back and said the consequences will be serious. it seems to me an important distinction that democrats were trying to push the idea that there would be dire consequences and dr. fauci said, hang on a second. >> listen. i think that there were a lot of answers that could be interpreted one way or the other which is why a couple of times some of the questioners had to come back and ask for clarification. for example, when it came to opening schools in the fall, and to the question was really about vaccines and treatments. dr. fauci said it's a bridge too far. some people took that as a

bridge too far to open schools in the fall. and at lamar alexander, the chairman had to come back at the end and say, that's not what you were saying, right? and he said right. it's a bridge too far that we will have the vaccine which is for millions and millions of people by the fall. so i think, it's in the eye of the beholder. some of those answers, how they are interpreted. but for the most part, dr. fauci was saying what he has been saying in these press briefings which is, be cautious. don't go too fast and follow the guidelines that we set out. there's a lot of leeway for these governors, but follow the guidelines. >> ed: it's an important point you're making because markets were moving yesterday afternoon on the -- does this mean the economy is going to reopen up bit slower? then when we had lamar alexander on the program here a short time ago he said he wanted to clarify that point that you made about schools and you clarified that

right there. then he also wanted to talk a little bit about rand paul pushing dr. fauci on whether he is the end-all be-all. here is lamar alexander and i will let you react. >> dr. fauci isn't holding himself up as an omen thi omnist person. he's been in charge of infectious disease since 1984, since ronald reagan's day and it's up to the president and the governor and the mayors to to take that advice. ed: he's framing it as just taking advice from this doctor and then it seems more like public officials are backed into a corner. it's a tricky balance. >> it is and it's a delicate balance that you have seen from the beginning of this about the economic effects and the health crisis as we are dealing with it. i think dr. fauci was trying to be as straightforward as he could be and it didn't get until

the end of the hearing when he was asked by georgia senator loeffler about whether there was a contentious relationship between he and president trump, and he said it, no. there is not. i provide science data and analysis and he takes that and makes decisions and that's how it's supposed to work and that's how he says it's working. >> ed: we sing people around the country, something i want to stand up for my liberty is, whether it was the salon owner in texas. now in california a lawsuit from the people to the governor saying we want to reopen. >> our goal was to flatten a curve and we have since done that. so i believe wholeheartedly that every business now is essential. my livelihood, the livelihood of my employees is on the line. >> ed: it's all the governor defended gavin newsom, obviously it defended everything he's doing right now but it's interesting because yesterday after that slouchy testimony also at the mayor in l.a. saying, look. l.a. county is now extending

stay-at-home orders for three more months. you had that salon owner saying, we were told to flatten a curve and we've done that and now we have three more months to stay at home. >> it's unsustainable for some of these businesses and they are making their feelings clear, this is not a democrat republican liberal conservative thing. this is likelihood dealing with concerns about being scared about the health crisis but also livelihood and how you will put food on the table for your family. that is not -- you know the political decision that has to be a policy decision based on facts. i think there's going to be more and more of this bubbling up of businesses in different states saying, i can't do it. i can't do it because you can't give -- the federal government can't give the enough money to sustain me for a year, and you are looking at a shutdown or shelter-in-place order potentially that lasts four or five months.

>> ed: finally to your point about trying to get this beyond politics, you had matthew mcconaughey last night, the actor saying, look. this virus is not attacking just democrats or republicans. >> i thought it was a great message and it was fun to have him on, obviously. but he's got these great psa's that he is trying to unite americans around fighting the virus and not fighting each other. i think it's a great message, a tough message especially in a political year. >> ed: did you think greg gutfeld's impersonation was good on his way into the show, or not? >> i thought it was good, i was told he winked at me when he left, at that's a good sign. >> ed: bret baier, we will watch you at 6:00 p.m. eastern. >> sandra: house democrats tapping taxpayers for another $3 trillion in the next round of relief. but is that major dead on arrival in the senate? brand-new reaction from senator john barrasso, and he will join us live come up next.

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many ideas that were not in previous bipartisan bills and selling it to her members. >> we are presenting a plan to do what is necessary to deal with the current of a crisis and make sure we can get the country back to work and school safely. we have a goal. we have benchmarks and we had the science to succeed. in this critical moment for our country. >> but some key progressives are not totally happy with the bill and would like to delay a vote until next week. it's not clear that they will try to defeat the major. the house g.o.p. leader is taking aim at this massive legislation. >> now, she wants to write a $3 trillion bill with no one able to see, no accountability and no input. i mean, this is not how democracy works. this is a real concern to all of us, this won't ever become law but it will be the wish list of the liberals to try to change

election law, fund planned parenthood and make sure sanctuary cities get the chunk of the money. >> this bill one, it will be dead on arrival in the senate but also trying to show that house democrats are trying to provide relief while senate republicans want to commit more time. >> ed: mike emanuel, thank you. sandra? >> sandra: for more on the all of this let's bring in wyoming senator john barrasso. it's good to figure to be here. before we talk about the cost of this and this $3 trillion price tag, two of the american people need more help? is more relief needed to stimulate the economy? >> at home in wyoming, we know that what we need to do is actually reopen our community is, reopen economy so people can get back to their normal lives. that's what we need to do and that is the best thing we can do and get the disease behind us, with more testing, vaccines and therapeutics, that is the right plan for america and that is what we are doing at home in

wyoming right now, sandra. >> sandra: but still, nancy pelosi is backing our $3 trillion relief package, and here she is making the case. >> i think there is opportunity for there. this is only centered on the coronavirus although it's a big ticket, it's a big problem. >> sandra: so if you can't agree on that trillion dollar relief package but american people -- they are struggling and we don't know how fast economies will open up in certain parts of the country. how do you get help to those that need at the most? >> first nancy pelosi must be living on fantasy island if she actually believes that the $3 trillion bill is going to become law. it is big, as you said. it's also bloated and partisan, and it's a payout to her liberal constituencies. so i will just tell you to

comparisons because she said this is focused on coronavirus. this is direct payments to illegal immigrants but yet includes an absolute not a dime for the paycheck protection program which has been so successful, 11,000 small businesses in wyoming have taken part in that. additionally, she wants to work to help release prisoners from ice facilities but provides no protection for the small businesses, the mom and pop businesses that are afraid of being sued when they open again because of th the dash this is l done with taxpayer dollars. what i believe we need to do and i think we may need to do more, is to be targeted and temporary and focused on the coronavirus, the economic as well as the medical side of it. >> sandra: while some republicans are pointed out that there are some necessary things in there like help for our

meat-packing industry folks out there, there are other things packed into that $3 trillion package including i think provisions for the marijuana business, an epa study on pollution, funding for the arts, inspector general protections. it's important for american people to know what is in that $3 trillion package. finally senator, i wanted to ask you about alexandria ocasio-cortez of new york. she is introducing this bill to provide burial costs for covid-19 victims. where would you stand on that proposal, senator? >> while first going back to your point about cannabis and marijuana, nancy pelosi is bill mentions that 68 times and mentions that more often then they use the word job or jobs. with regard to what alexandria ocasio-cortez is promoting, what that shows as additional division among the democrats, that no matter how much nancy pelosi has put into this bill there are still

democrats on the far, far left side of her party that want to put more into the bill and think $3 trillion is enough, and not enough has been included. it will be interesting to watch, let them fight that out and watch the fight as it develops. >> sandra: and for those that don't know what exactly she's produced, she is asking that fema gives those families of victims who have passed from covid-19 causes $10,000 each to cover the cost of thei burial ad funeral services. senator, great to have you here. >> ed: in the meantime, honoring our fallen heroes will be a lot different this memorial day but boy scouts in new york are fighting to hold onto an important tradition. a live report on this, next here's huge news for veterans with va loans.

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>> americans pay tribute to fallen veterans across america but the boy scouts in new york are helping their tradition of placing american flags simply on gravesites in military cemeteries can still go forward. eric is live with this important story. >> good morning, eddie. coronavirus has canceled an annual commemoration that the local officials in new york want restored. for decades the group boy scouts

and girl scouts and other groups have placed small american flags of the graves of those who have given the ultimate sacrifice at our country's national military cemeteries for memorial day. but this year the department of veterans affairs has canceled those mass flag placements, citing coronavirus. but in new york and long island were more than half a million veterans are buried at two national cemeteries, local officials they want the va to back down. county executive steve malone tells us of proper safety precautions and, he says, working with the local health department, he thinks the war data can again be properly honored. >> when you see those graves out there all lined up and you realize that all of these individuals served and sacrificed for our country, and the notion that we would allow this virus to stop us from honoring them appropriately by placing american flags is just, for us in suffolk county, is

unacceptable. >> the u.s. national cemetery association that oversees the sites tells fox news that it it has not released restrictions, they are also saying "families and service members are welcome to visit cemeteries throughout memorial day weekend and place individual flags on graves to honor friends and family. eagle scout karen monahan and his boy scout troop 443 of middle island in new york have placed thousands of flags at the national cemetery over the last three days and he and his friends are confident they can do it again in two weeks safely. >> it's definitely a very emotional, kind of moving experience. personally, my dad is a veteran and he was deployed in iraq for a year. it's good to be able to pay our respects to our fallen heroes. >> boy scout troops from

california, maryland, missouri and wisconsin among others have also been told they have to scrap their plans. in massachusetts and adult group called the stone minutemen replaced scouts this time and pushed comic place flags on the graves of veterans from the war of 1812, and the boy scouts and others are hoping the va changes its mind. >> ed: eric shawn, thank you. sandra? >> sandra: they may not be there now but long lines at the airport may be coming as analysts predicted that coronavirus could prolong the check-in process. so, will americans be willing to put up with more hassle? and online tools you need. and now it's no different. because helping you through this crisis is what we're made for.

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>> sandra: well, a doctor flying with united airlines sharing this photo of his packed flight to san francisco from new jersey. the doctor now calling out united airlines for filling every seat on that plane after initially sending them an email

saying that middle seats would be left empty for proper social distancing. joe piscopo is a radio talk show host of "the joe piscopo morning show" on am 970, the answer. joe, it is so good to be with you on this wednesday morning. great to see you. >> sandra, i missed you! >> sandra: i missed you, too asked mike here's this doctor, i believe he's a cardiologist. he gets on board this plane, everybody's wearing masks, but no middle seats were left empty. he was outraged, he said other passengers were scared, they were shocked? >> yeah. you know what? i've got to say, i am a germ phobia. accidentally put my glove on, i look like michael jackson here. i've got my glove on, i'm home. i've got a mask ready to go. i'll tell you, they can't be safe enough. by the way, the middle seat shouldn't be there anyway, sandra! they should just eliminate -- that's a great opportunity for us to get rid of the middle seat. please! that's what they're going to have to do on the airlines now.

>> sandra: it's really interesting. i know you probably talked to some folks who decided they need to fly through all this, whether it's to visit a loved one or for work purposes. they get on these plans, and they are rather busy, the planes that are actually still taking off. so, ryanair is one of the airlines that says it's going to be back up to 40% capacity by july, although its warning passengers it's going to have to take temperature checks. you're going to have to wear masks, which could increase the time it takes for screening process, which is already pretty lengthy, right, joe? >> i am so done with it. don't forget, after 9/11, what we have two still put up with to this day, better safe than sorry. do what you have to do. shoot the thing at my head, take my temperature, but my mask on. i will bring my own personal sanitizer. whatever it takes to keep it clean. we are at war, and i think people will understand. just get rid of that middle seat, that's all i'm asking. >> sandra: yeah, too close.

i know a lot of airlines are also talking about innovating the way you get on that plane. like, plexiglas between the seats, or possibly turning the middle seat around. all kinds of things you have to think about. it's interesting to hear from you, joe. some people say, "i'm willing to do it, just keep me safe, keep me healthy, but keep me flying." good take on all of that. joe, great to see you. >> i miss you. give my best to add. i'll see you in new york soon enough. >> sandra: you come too. >> ed: missing joe, good to see them back. he's healthy. i have he's a baseball fan like i am. we have a bet wow special package tomorrow, sandra, about how baseball might come back. and a baseball fan will come on to talk about sports, faith, all bunch of things. the >> sandra: i have a brother has a baseball nut. he says, "if you're going to bring back anything, braiding back baseball!" i look forward to the update, ed. >> ed: we got breaking news throughout all the errors. i'm sure there will be a lot

more. >> sandra: absolutely. and we met rufus the dog, as well, right? >> ed: i want to do what he was doing, take a nap. >> sandra: [laughs] will be back tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. eastern. thanks for joining us. to be 21 starts now. to be when we begin with this fox news alert. the trump administration is sounding the alarm about china, warning hackers tied to the communist chinese government are working to steal our u.s. research on vaccines and treatment for the coronavirus. the fbi and dhs, in a joint statement just today, saying china's efforts to target these sectors poses a significant threat to our nation's response to covid-19. chief white house correspondent john roberts with the very latest on this for us. john? >> harris, good afternoon to you. this morning, dhs's cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency, together with the fbi, pointed a very big finger at china in terms of trying to hack our research organizations who are ok