right now he is off his kind of nasty list for now. that will do it for now. here is "the five." >> hello, everyone, i'm juan williams, along with dana perino, jesse watters. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." >> juan: major breaking news today surrounding the unmasking of michael flynn. we're awaiting reaction from president trump and we'll bring

that to you very soon. gop senators releasing names of key obama administration officials who may have received the identity of flynn after it was unmasked. on the list, former vice president joe biden, former fbi director james comey and former director of international intelligence, james clapper. former chief of staff dennis mcdonald. joe biden was asked yesterday about the flynn investigation. here is what he said. >> i know nothing about michael flynn, i thought you asked me if i had anything to do with him being prosecuted. i'm sorry, i am aware they asked for an investigation, that is all i know about it, i don't think anything else. >> juan: senator rand paul, one of the first republicans to react, take a look at what he's saying. >> remember there was a whole to do about trying to impeach the

president, saying using the power of government to go after a political opponent, this is a smoking gun if there ever was one, vice president biden was using the power of government, using that power to go after a political opponent. >> juan: dana, i want to start with you, you heard senator paul say this is a smoking gun, i was thinking, you know, isn't it the case, any administration top officials given russian interference in 2016 election would want to know who is talking to the russian ambassador, telling them, don't worry about sanctions intended to punish russia, just take it easy. wouldn't you think that is normal? >> dana: well, that might be what they decide to say and i think that hillary clinton campaign, they still maintain the obama administration did not do enough to stop russian

interference. this horse has now left the barn and the obama administration people have been very quiet about this part of the investigation, but very much willing to talk on the record, on twitter, wherever else they could, about the russia investigation leading up to impeachment. i think they'll have to answer some questions. some of these things are curious. i think there is some make sense, you can imagine the director of national intelligence, the c.i.a., that makes sense, but why would ambassador to italy and republic of san marino need to know the identity of this person in this document? there are a lot of people not in a need-to-know basis, more like a want-to-know basis. asking for his name to be unmasked, apparently might be within the rules of what they can do, now get to the next question, which is, what happened after that? who leaked the name?

that will be something that perhaps we can get to the bottom of as we start to go through names and maybe start to hear from some, clapper, john brennan, powers, only name not on here that i thought would be is susan rice. >> juan: yeah, i agree with you. jesse, does this mean that people like samantha powers, power, mcdonoughey, talk to the russian ambassador about sanction, did they get him involved, does this explain or justify his actions? >> jesse: i have no idea what you mean by that, juan, and i want to correct something you said earlier. you said these were conservations he was having with russians, no, they were unmasking every single conversation he had with anybody. he had basically one conversation with one russian, make sure that is very clear. he is allowed to talk to whoever he wants as incoming national

security advisor and should be allowed to do that without being literally spied on by the obama people. here is the deal, was there legitimate reason for all of the obama officials to unmask an incoming national security advisor after the election? in my opinion, no. they were searching for a reason to take the guy out because they couldn't have michael flynn as national security advisor because he would find out what they had been up to during the campaign and he'd ruin the insurance policy. so here is how it all works. january 5, president obama's chief of staff unmasks flynn, sees this conversation with the russian ambassador. they have the oval office meeting on the 5th of january, with james comey, with joe biden. comey and barack obama hatch this sting to nail flynn on this

bs logan act. then a week later, january 12th, joe biden himself allegedly unmasks flynn or gets the flynn request to unmask and on that same day, january 12th, there is a column in the "washington post," which reports illegal leak of the conversation, so the timing is very suspicious. they don't -- biden says he doesn't know anything about this, that is obviously not true, it has his fingerprints all over it. the question is, why were they doing this, how they did it and like dana said, it may not be illegal to unmask someone, although you are doing it without a warrant, it is very sketchy. but to criminally leak the classified conversation, that is exactly what durham is looking into. so all the names on the lists, they are now the subject of a criminal leak investigation and

at this point, we found out more dirt from barack obama in three weeks than they found on donald trump in three years. >> juan: wow, greg, i'm not a cynic, as you well know, i'm not a cynic, but i hear cynics questioning the timing of this release with so many americans going through the pandemic, suffering and dying. so i want to ask you, what would you say to the cynics? >> greg: who are they? i don't respond to people, sum of people who say things, i respond to people who specifically say things. i do think it is pretty weird that in an era where we're telling people to wear masks, we're doing a story about unmasking people, which to me is proof we're living in a simulation. for that story to happen now, i think we could ask joe biden, what did he know and when did he know it, but he would say

tapioca pudding and shetland pony, pointless. he will make a terrible witness. what i find interesting with juan's question, interesting reversal of liberals, who always seem legitimately concerned about coercion by authorities, setups by authorities, no miranda rights being read or pretend not to be investigating a person until they finally get the guy. you know, the fbi did that with flynn. they told him, don't worry about a lawyer. they said, we're not targeting you. they didn't read his miranda rights, then what they did, ruined him. targeted him, ruined him legally and financially, essentially they set him up. i don't know why liberals don't defend him the way they do others, maybe it is racism. the maybe they see flynn as ap old, white male who served his country, right? he's not considered a press by their

definition or by your definition, so it is not really injustice, he is symbol of american oppression, so who cares. now they have a question and it might be a stupid question, i will ask anyway, we have a lawyer, emily here. now we confirmed this is a three-year charade, phony process of relitigating something that didn't happen. the person behind that was schiff, we know schiff lied every step of the way. could somebody sue to reverse the impeachment when we now know the impeachment was a house of cards? i know you are laughing, i admit it mighting a dumb question, i don't know. the impeachment thing was a circus. >> juan: i don't agree. >> greg: can somebody sue to reverse the process? peel that bandaid off or whatever? >> juan: i think it is all politics, all politics, why don't we give emily the chance

to chime in and i have a question, emily. >> right. well, as i always say, you can always sue everyone and the question is whether you are going to succeed or whether it is going to be thrown out. the president can do that actually. politically, he would do better to wear it like a star to prove the ridiculousness of it, he was impeached, but not convicted. he remains in the oval office and likely will have another four years. i would like to share my thoughts on this situation, if i can. >> juan: okay. so emily, can we take a break for a second? emily, hold on a second, i want to take a break for a second, because we have some tape of president trump in conversation with maria about the flynn case. take a look. >> got it. >> pres. trump: they weren't after general flynn, they wanted him to lie about me, make up a

story and with few exceptions, nobody did that, there were many people. i watched mcfarland the other day, knock, knock, fbi. the fbi, okay. this was all obama. this was all biden. these people were corrupt. the whole thing was corrupt. we caught them. we caught them. what you saw just now. i watched biden yesterday, he could barely speak. he was on "good morning america." he said he didn't know anything about it. and now it gets released right after he said that, it gets released he was one of the unmaskers, meaning he knew everything about it. so he lied to your friegeorge stephen. >> juan: emily, this is about him and names come out from the dni, ric grenell, not confirmed

by the senate. the president didn't put his name up for confirmation, is this what -- so political at this juncture, is this what the founders intended, some guy now sitting in the director of national intelligence office puts out names and stirs controversy -- >> dana: you have to be clear, emily, emily, before you answer, like if there is a fine point to be made here, ric grenell's office did not release the names, the office of ron johnson, the senator, released it. that is a fine point, one that needs to be made. >> juan: yeah, but they got enough. they put it out. anyway, go ahead, emily. >> i would urge everyone not to view this through the lens of politics, just for a moment. to disregard for one moment, obama and biden's intimate involvement in the post-carter-page and to view through the lens of government power and the notion we have so

many current laws right now that can become like blowfish with the amount of government power that can turn into abuse. the government is made up of people, members, the fisa court, that standard is probable cause, communicating with a foreign government. the constitution demands, probable cause, committing a crime. i think viewers and all of us should ask ourselves, what kind of government do we want, one that is bound by the constitution or one that is bound by a set of laws that for some reason, the institutional forces on the hill continue to protect. right now, regardless of party, you should be deeply concerned and should care deeply what this is uncovering because one day it might not be three-star general, it might be you. >> dana: right. >> juan: good point. we're awaiting more reaction from president trump on flynn's unmasking, we'll bring you that, plus, the debate over reopening

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♪ >> dana: all right. we are waiting brand-new reaction from president trump on the michael flynn unmasking documents, we'll have the video very soon. the president is meeting with governors at the white house right now about reopening the economy. the president also sitting down with maria bartiromo for an interview where president trump says he disagrees with dr. anthony fauci on when schools should reopen. take a look. >> pres. trump: anthony is a good person, very good person. i've disagreed with him.

when i closed the border to china, he disagreed with that and ultimately agreed and said i saved hundreds of thousands of lives, which is what happened. everybody disagreed when i did that. i think that we have to open our schools. young people are very little affected by this. we have to get the schools open. we have to get our country open. we have to open our country. we want to do it safely, but we want to do it as quickly as possible. we can't keep going on like this. you are having bedlam already in the streets. you can't do this. we have to get it open. i totally disagree with him on schools. >> dana: greg, i know you and emily from california want to try to get you in before we hear from the president soon. california state university system decided it is going to shut all state universities for the fall semester. how can they make that decision so soon, or is it because they have to plan ahead? >> greg: i guess so. quickly, comment on the tape we

just saw. something that the press should value about trump is that he talks about these disagreements. these things we actually see. i think it was like a month ago, i said that the solution to the -- solution to find the right answer when you don't have an answer is to let 50 experiments unfold. for example, like california. if you don't know what is too soon or too late, the 50 experiments are going to tell you. so when people say, oh, screaming, people will die. we know that that is a possibility, the 50 experiments will show you the best path forward. it is like your 401k portfolio, assessment of different performances that help you evaluate the winning path. when you hear other people in the media, i don't know what they are thinking, they prefer to pick one date for everyone, which is like putting all your chips on one number at roulette? no, roulette doesn't have chips. here we go.

>> dana: greg, we will go to the president now, here is the president. >> pres. trump: the governor of colorado and the governor of north dakota, two fellas working very hard, harder than they thought they would have to work, two distinguished senators you know very much, senator gardner, who you know, and -- say hello, say hello. >> thank you. we appreciate the invitation and of course, appreciate all the support you are giving us and leadership of our governors. >> pres. trump: yeah, and that is what we're here for, to do that and to talk about, we just came up with a new list on testing, cracked 10 million tests, which is here. like to show that to everybody. 10 million. we set all-time record by far. if you look down here, these are other countries that have not done anywhere near what we're doing. we're double, if you add them up and double them, weave done more

tests. i can't get the press to print that, unfortunately, they don't want to print it. i want to thank the governors, thank you very much, we appreciate it. we'll have good, fruitful talks about going even to the next step and i know you are trying to open up. i know you are opening up, more than trying, you are opening up. you both doing an excellent job, it is an honor to have you at the white house very much. these two gentlemen have done fantastic job. david from interior, involved with your states. how are they doing, david, what do you think? >> fantastic. >> pres. trump: i think so, they are doing a good job. we are talking about, as you know, space force, a lot of states are interested in space force and talking to some of them. colorado is very interested in it, we'll be talking to you about that, too. might mention that during today's meeting. thank you all very much. thank you.

>> administrators and school principals around the country, in terms of their plans to reopen school and colleges in the fall? >> pres. trump: i think they should open the schools, absolutely, i think they should. had little impact on young people and i think that if you are an instructor, a teacher, a professor and over a certain age like say 65 or maybe if you want to be considered at 60, perhaps you want to stay out for a little while longer, but i think you should absolutely open the schools. our country has to get back and get back as soon as possible. i don't consider the country coming back if the schools are closed. unusual situation, had little impact on young people and i would strongly say they should open. it is up to the governors, it is the governors choice, the state is not open if the schools are not open. again, had little impact on young people and i think they should open their schools.

>> mr. president, -- to sancti china, would you support it if it goes to the house and comes to your desk, would you support that bill? >> pres. trump: i respect -- i will certainly look at it, bill to sanction china, i will take a look at it, i have not seen it yet. >> mr planning on the release - >> pres. trump: the unmasking is a massive thing. i just got a list, it's -- who can believe a thing like this? i watched biden yesterday on "good morning america" being interviewed by one of your colleagues george stephanopoulos, he said he knew nothing about anything, nothing at all. and then it gets released today, he was a big unmasker. how do you know nothing if you are the unmaskers? it is one of the very big stories and i suspect you'll

have response of bigger stories coming out. >> follow-up on separate -- number of explosions ina aft * afghanistan? are you concerned may be falling apart? >> pres. trump: afghanistan, we have been there many years, we are not fighting in afghanistan, we are a police force. some point they will have to take care of their country and police their country. but we're not meant to be a police force, we are meant to be fighters. weave been there a long time, i don't know, we will have to see, i have not heard that. in kabul, pretty big blowups. again, you count on the government to be able to police themselves and they are having a hard time, i suspect. again, we are the greatest fighting force in the world, we are not a police force that will stay around and police the streets and check out the red lights and traffic, it is not what we're supposed to be doing.

been there a long time. you know, our force has done quite a bit, as you know, we are way down. a lot of people have come back, brought them back. the government has to be able at some point to do something for themselves. right? >>-- said both that he wasn't interested in bringing interest rates negative and he felt need for additional stimulus from congress and now that you sawe have been waiting to see stimulus and you want -- your reaction? >> pres. trump: i'm a believer in negative rates only if other country competitors, germany, they are now friends of ours, but still competitors on trade and other things, germany, japan, have negative rates. if they do, we are the most prime of the world. many countries, based on the dollar, the dollar is the strongest, 340e69 powerful currency in the world, we made it more powerful,

stronger and certainly they have advantage of negative rates, we should, too. i feel strongly we should have negative rates, basically they pay you interest if you borrow money. this is a new one. i've been looking for something like this all my life. pretty good one. certainly if other countries are going to be paid for putting up money, i mean, think of it, they are borrowing money, instead of paying interest, they are getting paid. it is the craziest thing. you know what, other countries, germany, japan, others are doing it. we are the most prime in the world right now, we have the currency and we have the power of the dollar. so i know that the chairman, he has done a very good job over the last several months 6789 i've been critical, many ways i call him my mip, most improved player. it is called most improved player award, did you ever get one when you were playing

baseball, so cory? good baseball player? >> certainly not. >> pres. trump: chairman, he's my mip. great job. i disagree with one thing, that is on negative rates. only because we're paying zero, good news with this money, talking about in the stimulus, paying zero. down to zero interest. that is good. but some countries and some states, rather, and some also countries, you look at, we are paying right now zero and other countries are paying less than that, if you can believe it. they are receiving money. i think we should be in the exact same situations. by the way, states are getting tremendous deals on borrowing. a lot of states coming to the federal government can go out and borrow and getting phenomenal rates, some of our states is where i'm talking about, they are getting phenomenal borrowing rates.

>> do you agree, stimulus should be -- suggested that -- >> pres. trump: i don't know, depends, certainly not the package i saw today. if you look at the package, what they want more than anything else, it is a voting package, they want to be able to make sure republicans can't win an election by putting in all sorts of mail-in ballots. i don't know if you do report this too much, but we had two very big victories last night. we won big, tom tiffany won big in great state of wisconsin, you saw that. that was last night, it came in, a big one. you saw that, doug. and one by very substantial margin, and in california, of all places, we had a fantastic race and this was all mail-in ballots. this was all mailed ballots. and when they saw, because of the mail, saw they were losing three days ago and end up putting polling booths in to

democrat areas, but despite that, it is looking like mike garcia, i don't know if they called the race yet, substantially ahead, that is mail-in ballots. are they going to dump a pile of ballots on your desk before the election? the problem, it is subject to tremendous corruption, tremendous corruption, cheating. i'm against it. if you look at the bill that pelosi is putting in, has a lot to do with elections, we'll not lose elections because of that. >> do you know when it all started -- >> pres. trump: i think you should mention the fact republicans won two major congressional seats last night, i think it is worthy of mentioning. >> do you believe that the judge presiding over the michael flynn case -- >> pres. trump: your question? >> nonstarter or anything in there you could support? >> pres. trump: well, as they say, doa, doa.

dead on arrival. >> mr. president -- >> pres. trump: of course pe nay pelosi knows that obviously. >> do you believe the judge presiding over the michael flynn case, sullivan ought to disqualify himself for being biassed against mr. flynn? >> pres. trump: i was with gener milley, do you know general flynn? yes, sir, i've known him 20 years. what do you think? he's an incredible four star. this is milley, he's done fantastically, he thinks general flynn is a great, great gentleman and a real fighter. and when i see what is happening to him -- and by the way, the

fbi said he did not lie. he did not lie. with all this stuff saying about lying, he didn't lie. the sleeze bag said we don't care what they say, we are saying he lied. the fbi said, he didn't lie. what they have done to that man and that family is a disgrace. i tell you that because i left general milley, he said a great man and a great soldier. >> pardon for -- >> pres. trump: i won't talk about that, but he's going to be okay, he'll be just fine. i'm very, very saddened by what's happening to general flynn and others. i want to tell you right now, and others. yes? >> dr. dr. fauci yesterday was cautious on reopening the economy too soon. do you share his concern? >> pres. trump: about reopening what? >> reopening the economy too soon in some states? >> pres. trump: he wants to play all sides of the equation. i think we're going to have a

tremendous fourth quarter, transitional third quarter and phenomenal next year. i feel we're going to have a country that is ready to absolutely have one of its best years. next year with all the stimulus and all the fact it is pent up demand like i haven't seen. you see it right now. these two really professional, good governors that do such a work so hard, i know one well, one happens to be a democrat, we work together, i think we have worked together very well and one you expect me to say, it happens to be true. really good job, too. they want to get the states open. some governors and some perhaps partisans, maybe for election reasons, don't want to have their say so and some shouldn't open yet, they are not ready. they went through a lot and they are not quite ready.

no, we're opening our country, people want it open. the schools are going to open. i was seeing the other day, p d purdue, great college, great yufsht, p -- university, these are young students, they are in great shape. now where you have an incident, one out of a million, one out of 500,000, will something happen? perhaps. but you can be driving to school and some bad things can happen, too. we will open our country. we want it open. >> when you said dr. fauci's plan, were you -- >> pres. trump: i was surprised by his answer, actually, because, you know, it is just to me not an acceptable answer, especially when it comes to schools. the other thing acceptable, professors, teachers, etcetera, over certain age, ought to take it careful few weeks, five

weeks, whatever it may be, they have to be careful. this is a disease that attacks age and it attacks health and if you have a heart problem, if you have diabetes, if you're a certain age, it's certainly much more dangerous, but with the young children, i mean, and students, it is really just take a look at the statistics, it is pretty amazing. >> mr. president, businesses are concerned about getting sued once they reopen, will you be insistent on some sort of shield from liability being -- >> pres. trump: if anything is done, i -- new testing, i don't know if you saw this. i was showing this to a group of people outside. 10 million tests. we will be shortly, like within a couple of days. look at the tests. this is us. this is the rest of the world. okay. we have more tests and we have better tests, more tests and we

have better tests. and we'll have your football team, your championship football te team. tell us a little about the team, first of all. you know they won the championship and we were set to have them and what happened is the plague came in and because of the plague, came in from china, because of the plague, we didn't have those great people. raincheck, okay. but seriously, in a few months, we'll do a rain check. tell us about the team, it was tremendous. >> the team is senator was here, the first lady was here, she says hi, but you hosted them last year because they won the national championship this year in january and this is eighth or ninth year in a row they have done that. they would love to get back here with a rain check. >> pres. trump: so i watched the game on television, the championship game. i didn't know too much about it, i don't get to watch too much of

the television football games. yeah, that team is really good, they were really good. i got a call from john and i get a call from our -- senator, do you think we could possibly honor the team? we are the national champion. my question was, how would your team do against the national champions? they were good, lsu this year, right? not a bad quarterback. you think okay, right? >> open up at oregon. >> great lsu quarterback started playing flag football in north dakota. >> pres. trump: let the team know we'll do a rain check, okay. okay. yeah? please. >> what will happen to the public companies that don't return their ppp loans by tomorrow's deadline? >> pres. trump: if any companies

got loans they were not entitled to, we will go after them seriously, they will have big problems. meteorologist wh >> what is your level of confidence about the case involving your tax returns? >> pres. trump: i hope they will. you have a situation where a president has to be able to focus on this. you know, when you are doing an audit, in the old days, no president gave tax returns. no president gave tax returns. but when you are under, who would want to give them? it's a very big thing. it would also take time, it would take -- people are going to get ultimately, be getting returns, they will see that. but i think it went well yesterday, i have great respect for the supreme court and i think the lawyers put out a very strong case. and from what i read, it was a very strong case. please. >> how long do you and the vice

president plan to stay apart? >> pres. trump: well, it is an interesting question. i haven't seen mike pence, and i miss him. he was in the room with somebody that tested positive and he did not test positive, he tested the opposite. he's in good shape. but i guess we said for a little while we'll stay apart, you don't know what happens with this crazy and horrible disease. but we speak a lot on the phone, but i'm in the white house. mike is at his office, he is pretty much away from people. he's doing a great job. he's done a great job, i think you would say on the task force, he really has. you have pretty much gotten everything you wanted and we get it quickly. >> yeah, we talk to the vice president regularly. >> pres. trump: weave worked well together with republican governors and with democratic governors.

when are you thinking of opening? explain what you -- >> most businesses are opening colorado. pretty much everything, except social businesses like bars and nightclubs, a few places have restaurants opening, we're working on the rest soon. offices, manufacturing, salons, pretty much all people are back. in a safer way, right? not the same way it was. i got my haircut the other day. >> pres. trump: looks good. >> thank you, you should see it before, crazy. what little -- so they wore a mask, i wore a mask. we're doing it in a safe way. all the stores are back and april 27, one state where we wanted to do it in a safe way. people are being responsible. it is an individual responsibility that is going to make sure we stay on this trajectory and hopefully restaurants end of may. >> pres. trump: how about, i go there, the ski slopes are fantastic, right? there are those that say the greatest

anywhere, how are you doing with the skiing, it is a big business for you? >> it is a big business, one reason we got a lot of the virus in our state. people come from all over the world, that led to the spread. most of the ski season is ending, we're hopeful, a lot of people don't know this. people ski through july 4th. we hope people will be able to ski again, secretary knows this, arap ahoe, wolf creek, loveland, in june, we're hoping people can ski. >> pres. trump: you do summer business and springtime business, what are you doing with that? >> really respecting the communities in our state. nobody more at stake, in fact, joe ryan, from eagle, our secretary of health in colorado was commissioner at eagle county, where val ie is. we are respecting what the different communities saw. i think some folks will come

back, spend money in stores, there will be other communities that say, we will wait longer. it has been traumatic. eagle county for a while had highest infection rate in the country early on. >> pres. trump: everyone coming in. >> yeah. >> pres. trump: how has that been? how is the level of infection? >> eagle county has done fantastic job, aspen, they have it under control. they got it early, they have great county health departments, look at the science and data. their residents stayed home and eagle county was one of the first in the state with mesa county, and the grand junction area to open up ahead of some of the other areas in a safer way. so like in grand junction, the restaurants are 25% capacity. so there is space. we look at ways people can dine outdoors, sidewalks and on the road, because it is safer to be

in that environment. those are things we are thinking about, to get back to as much normalcy as we can. >> pres. trump: cory, you working -- >> we do. i appreciate that, here to help as much as we can. >> one of the things we did that cory introduced us to, we worked on importing tests from south korea, they are being used in our state. we are partnering with the vice president and you on thermal tests coming soon. 95,000. >> i was told they are here. >> exciting. running through the tests from south korea, that is important. we have the ability to do it, the labs are doing it. you guys sent around the labs, we have capacity, it is getting the 2e6 tests. the thermal tests, the saliva tests, mixing and matching, 32 free community testing sites. some you drive in. some you walk in.

that is in arkdition to hospitals and doctor's offices, of course you get tested there. 32 free community testing sites. >> and president, the key to what the governor is talking about, you have counties that have a plan, they are able to open up earlier than others because of work they are doing, when the governor is talking about grand junction, restaurants are open and you have dine-in, in the restaurants, which i think is maybe some of the first around the country to reopen to dine-in, because of good work they have done together. >> we want, for restaurants open throughout this whole period, they did delivery, takeout, curbside and we waived laws so they could sell alcohol, alcohol delivery, that extra piece can make the difference between them staying in business. >> pres. trump: how did the restaurants do with take-out? >> some are doing okay, it doesn't work for every restaurant, they need to be open for dining. for many, it's paid their bills and they have gotten through and

it helped them. not every restaurant, i hear stories, we made sure they have been able to stay in business a long time. >> talked about colorado additional thermal tests, that is a big help to get -- >> pres. trump: that is a great test, a new and great test ch. >> this has been a great partnership, federal to state to local in north dakota and secondly, thanks to all the great people in north dakota, like jared in colorado, we rely on individual responsibility, light touch from government and had great results and here we sit today, number two in the nation, p passing new york in terms of testing per capita. >> pres. trump: your tests, all different and in good shape with the testing, what tests are you using? >> this has all been the

nucleic acid testing. thermal fisher. most in the state lab, order of magnitude increase, gone to three shifts per day, doing three times of before. 10 x increase going on in testing. >> pres. trump: that is fantastic. >> fifth lowest positivity rate, alaska and hawaii are ahead of us, we are bottom in terms of that. >> pres. trump: what do you attribute that to? >> i would say very early on -- >> pres. trump: being a good governor, right? >> geography helps and people of the state helps, i would say, took early action to try to reduce transmissible moments, kept 93% of the jobs open, 7% we closed, bars and restaurants and personal care businesses, everyone else, construction, energy, banks, including all elective surgery and hospitals, kept that going.

>> pres. trump: that is fannic. >> we had never 2% of capacity in healthcare, we have great healthcare. 2% were going to covid-19. >> pres. trump: fantastic. >> we handled the virus and focus focused. we had less to worry about opening up, we never really closed down. the other 7%, bars, restaurants, personal care businesses, opened may 1, all that is going well. new operating procedures everybody is using to stay safe. >> pres. trump: and going up now, so 26, 27 dollars a barrel, and pretty soon you'll be up to the number you have to be up to, that is a big difference. >> actually, because of what we do, we power the world, feed the worl world -- producing state in the nation and a lot of unemployment wasn't related to virus, related to demand with oil price drop.

>> pres. trump: great job. john, what do you have to say about the state and the job the governor and everybody else has done? i know it well. >> listening to the two governors, i was governor a long time, your approach is the right approach. we are working with governors across the country and empowering them to open up as soona they can safely based on the conditions in their state and every state is different. that is why the approach is so important and you providing all that support, along with congress and the cares act, as well. you see that, now, with north dakota, with colorado, and across the country, so that is why it is so important you are doing it in a way you are doing it with these great governors we have across the state. thank you for that. the other thing, for farmers, i work with hay, for farmers and ranchers, you have been there for them and hang in there with them, they are doing a whale of a job. they are so important, and the energy industry, too.

>> pres. trump: we are sending them millions of dollars we took in from a country that targeted them. last week 16 billion, year before 12 billion. and no other president would have done that, i can tell you. >> it is real important and appreciate it and we need to hang in there with them. only other thing, we have a great governor, he is so data driven, i was teasing dr. birx, who is more data driven, they are amazing together, they are amazing. >> pres. trump: that is great. michelle, do you have anything to say? >> well, -- [indiscernible] talked a lot about lowering the curve, we -- and weave had the good fortune of working very closely with our business community and it is through that process and open dialogue and collaboration and hyperconnectedness in the state, we were able to build what we

call north dakota smart protocol with our business community over the span of eight days. we were closed for 40 days and 40 nights and opening in a safe way. >> pres. trump: that is fantastic. >> really proud. >> pres. trump: you have done a great job. thank you very much. just to finish off, go ahead. >> oh, hi, thank you mr. president. i want to thank the federal government for its partnership on our covid-19 response and particularly the supplies you have given us, the tests and look forward to that continuing and you know, the more people we can test and then we can force multiply with contact tracing, we can quarantine people that haven't had the test yet, that is really the way we're going to contain the virus in colorado. we have a local public health department that covers every county and they are ready to do testing and contact tracing and so that is our plan, it is going to be statewide effort. >> pres. trump: thank you very

much. terrific job, too. >> over here, i will say, doing a fantastic job, we had a chance to interact with him on national parks, great things going on and moving ahead with the presidential library, we have the u.s. fish and wildlife blm, been great partners working with five tribal nations headquartered in north dakota when we shared geography and done great collaboration with the tribal leaders on testing for covid. >> pres. trump: you had a lot of difficulty with different tribes, a lot of difficulty. >> secretary for support, as well, through all this. >> pres. trump: david, you have done a great job, do you feel comfortable with all the cameras right behind your head? >> you gave me clear direction to work with governors, to open things up, we work with local communities, our parks. my goal is that we're right on the shoulder of the governor. we have worked with the countys

and health department and parks to bring that online and opened up. we just announced today the timing of the opening for yellowstone. so -- >> pres. trump: getting the parks open, right? >> absolutely. >> pres. trump: i hope everybody is listening, parks are opening and upon raidly. >> with those governors. >> pres. trump: and with those gfrps, you want help from the governors? >> and within the state. and you know, we are excited because recreation outdoors i healthy. -- >> local communities. >> pres. trump: you are working with governors. >> and local counties, absolutely. >> pres. trump: great job. thank you. thank you, everybody. >> problem on america's airlines? >> pres. trump: great confidence in the airlines, we saved the

airlines with $25 billion and another $25 billion. we have airlines that are now in good shape, they will pick up with the fares and seats, but the industry is in good shape. we have been able to save the airline industry, which would have been devastating if that happened. they are in good shape, thank you very much. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> dana: all right, if you ever wanted to be a fly on the wall in the cabinet room of the white house, you just got an opportunity to listen in on a conversation the president was having with a couple of governors and of course the secretary interior dave barnhardt, taking questions from the press. we have "the five" together. take it around the table, so to speak. jesse, let's start on bigger news of today on the flynn unmasking list that has come out. the president talking about that, he has an interview with maria bartiromo, which will air tomorrow morning. he says there is more to come.

>> jesse: well, there keeps being more to come, he's been right. fox has been right. all of our reporting on this entire thing has proven to be accurate and all reporting from the other side in the mainstream media has proven false, which makes me wonder, why aren't the mainstream media reporters angry? they were fed lies by their sources for three years and they printed fake news. if i printed fake news for three years and then i found othrough transcripts my sources knew they were telling me lies and knew they were having me push a fake story, i'd be angry at my sources. but they're not angry at their sources. they are angry at the people that have pointed out that their sources lied. think about how ridiculous that is. now they're saying the president is politicizing the intelligence. that is pretty funny coming from them because it wasn't donald trump that set people up with stings, that used spies, that

cooked up crooked dossiers and colluded with the russians and entrapped people and threw political opponents in jail, no, that was democrats that did that. all the president is doing now, like this unmasking list, is shining a light, all he's doing is disinfecting the last administration. he's exposing it. he's correcting an injustice, that is what is going on here. the timing is not being used to distract from the pandemic, it was adam schiff that released all of those transcripts under oath. remember that. it was the justice department that withheld exculpatory evidence from general flynn for two years. timing of this is on democrats, not on the republicans. >> dana: uh-huh. greg, jesse brings up something that reminds me of, do you remember during the obama administration, when ben rhodes said, did that interview

basically saying he had played the media on iran? and how they fell for everything that he said? i mean, when jesse said that, it mae made he think reporters would have been mad then. >> greg: yeah. i feel like a broken record, the fact is, look, i just saw one of biden's spokesperson melt down on twitter over this, basically attacks catherine herridge, pretty brutal attack on her. i believe they might have removed the tweet. i'm interested how the media will approach that, will that be considered sexist attack because she's a woman or is it different because it was a democrat doing the attacking? it is clear joe's campaign is worried. i hate to act like the worst, the very worst of the media and worst of the democrat about demanding this person get locked up and this person be tried and

this person go away, but something has to be done for adam schiff because he created three years of massive falicy that did so much damage to this country and made us miss probably one of the most pfr important stories of our lifetime, having hearings on impeachment while coronavirus was exploding, we talked about the virus in green rooms, but we had to do the impeachment story and show the hearings. it is all on him, man. he's got to go. they got to investigate him, got to hold him accountable. i will not say he should go to prison, but my evil twin will say he should go to prison for a very long time. >> dana: juan, the next few days will be interesting to see how many democrats will be willing to talk on the record about what has been going on and what has been revealed. >> juan: i think people are glad to talk, the question is, are

you playing into a political action, you know, regardless of how you view it, lots of people worry it is diversionary. certainly vice president biden has said that. i want to mention, dana, i think the president was pretty clear, he said that the democrats' bill that nancy pelosi put out today is doa, dead on arrival and then he said that powell, federal reserve chair is his most improved player over last few months for reducing interest rates and the like. today powell said the economy is in big trouble and needs additional help and support from the government. so the question now becomes, what will the president and the treasury secretary, mr. mnuchin put forward? are they going to negotiate? because their own federal reserve chair, the most improved player for the president, is saying, the economy, the workers need help and nancy pelosi is

talking about getting more money to workers, more money for people hungry through food stamps, more for small businesses. >> dana: also having government play god is not the best way to get money in the hands of people. we will talk about that today, hopefully will get a chance tomorrow. emily, can i talk to you about the reopening. the talking to the governor, are you seeing that out where you are, the parks are reopening, people are figuring out a way to get back to business? you mentioned a possible registry at restaurants? seattle? >> exactly, the governor outlined a plan for restaurant to be able to have dine-in people, for people to be able to go sit indoor, the restaurants have to stipulate, grievance, that will provide namess, e-mails, addresses and telephone numbers of the diners. of course people are revolting, remaining to be seen if that will be implemented, the governor articulated, dana, you

asked about california, where i'm from, and we saw the difference of the governor's treatment in california of all the other governors that were in the cabinet room with the president. governor >> bret: good evening, i'm bret baier. breaking tonight, we now know which obama officials requested the unmasking of lieutenant general michael flynn. we'll get to all of it, the list goes very high up. we will talk with one of the senators who released the names and just a moment. john roberts has what president trump just said about the revelation, we start out with the justice department who is on that list. >> good evening to you. the list is three pages long and has names of former obama administration officials who