jedediah: fun show today thank you guys for joining us i had a blast. pete: go to the beach and if you want to be a rebel maybe bring a football. have a great saturday, everybody . neil: all right, the theme right now in new orleans, louisiana reopening today or at least trying to get restaurants going, some retail operations going, this is cincinnati is doing the same but when you think about new orleans and what it was dealing with a little more than six weeks ago when it was suddenly getting to be a hot bed of cases of coronavirus and deaths the spike has come down, the numbers have improved and now the city is beginning the reopening. welcome, everybody i'm neil cavuto. you're watching cavuto live hope your weekend is starting off on a right foot. we've got 45 states right now that are in the process of continuing reopening, we're just starting them, and the other five states, they're in some

stage of looking at plans that by early next week, we'll have virtually everyone in this country beginning the process of unwinding restrictions that have been in place, in some cases for upwards of two months. all of this as the president is with top republicans at camp david and the latest from the white house. >> reporter: neil, good morning to you president trump at camp david meeting with republican members of congress including minority leader kevin mccarthy and a handful of advisors some of the topics on the agenda obviously coronavirus also that heros act that passed the house 208-199 yesterday in the house of representative, and that's the final vote but it has too many provisions according to republicans and the senate not directly related to coronavirus relief. it is "what some republicans over there are saying doa, dead on arrival." yesterday afternoon in the rose garden the president launched operation warp speed, the goal, neil to get a sustainable

vaccine to the american people in record time, and it's a partnership between the military , health and human services and the private sector. now take a look at this right here. this is the goal, we're talking about 100 million doses by fall for at-risk populations, 200 million by december, 300 million doses by january. president trump says he wants to make those free. also when asked about the possible competition between other countries president trump said if another country develops the vaccine first, so be it. president trump: we have no ego, whoever gets it we think it's great we're going to work with them they are going to work with us likewise if we get it we're going to be working with them. >> reporter: after announcing that he's stopping payments to the world health organization last month, there is a report that the white house will green light payments to that organization at a much lower rate, the same as china. they are responding to fox business' lou dobbs who criticized and the president tweeted this morning from camp david, lou, that is just one of

numerous concepts being considered under which we would pay 10% of what we have been paying over many years, matching much lower china payments have not made the final decisions all funds are frozen thanks just one option there, from the president meanwhile, neil we're finding out the world health organization has continued to say that a sustainable vaccine will not be available until about a year from now. neil? neil: and i believe, the world health organization has also said this could linger a while. this isn't just a phenomenon that maybe they hope ends by the end of this year, the early part of next year. >> exactly. neil: that's rattling folks there, right? >> exactly, it is. neil: all right, buddy thank you very very much. david spunt reporting on the latest washington developments the president at camp david. let's get a look at seaside heights in new jersey right now, that states governor, phil murphy, indicating that by memorial day all the major beaches in new jersey will be open, but that doesn't

necessarily mean popular board walks, restaurants will be open at the same time. there will be distancing provisions in effect and a host of other developments. garrett tenney has been keeping track of all of these reopenings and just who is doing what and where. he joins us out of washington. hey, garrett. >> reporter: hey, neil good morning to you. yeah there's no doubt that memorial day is going to be a lot different for most folks this year but over the next week , more than a dozen states will gradually start to ease restrictions as we move towards this new normal. by monday, gyms, restaurants and hair salons will be able to reopenn idaho, florida, kansas , minnesota, south carolina and west virginia. casinos are starting to open up as well next week gamblers will be able to roll the dose in arkansas, louisiana, and mississippi much like they did in washington just a few days ago, to the delight of some eager customers. >> it was worth it. we had to wait an hour or two. >> i'm loving it loving it. i've been waiting and waiting.

>> reporter: it's by no means business as usual though states are requiring non-essential businesses to follow strict guidelines including social distancing and limiting capacity to anywhere from 25 to 50% depending on the state. the way we travel is also going to change. the wall street journal reports that starting next week, those coming to a dozen american airports will have their temperatures checked. not every business may be able to reopen though. late friday, jc penney became the latest major retailer to file for bankruptcy amid the pandemic, following nieman marcus, and j. crew. all three have massive amounts of debts coming into this nationwide shutdown but they may still be able to avoid going out of business altogether and as states start to reopen we will also likely start to see the full impact this shutdown has had on small businesses. there's a lot of concern that many of these small business owners may not be able to keep their doors open after this.

neil? neil: garrett thank you very much, my friend, garrett tenney on all of that and as we indicated here 45 states have either started or continued reopening plans right now. missouri was among the earlier ones the process has been going on for the better part of two weeks that states governor is with us right now, missouri republican governor. very good to have you back how are things going there today? >> they're going good, neil. we've been out traveling a lot through the state kind of seeing how business is reopening and the safety precautions taking for the customers. proud of missouri doing their part to keep the social distancing in place, and that's been really good but you know it's very positive. people are feeling more positive too. businesses are opening back up, people are get back out and look , the truth is we got to be able to do the balancing act between the virus and opening up the economy, and it's crucial to get those people back to work and get those jobs going on. neil: governor, the president is

saying that he is not getting enough credit for what he's doing to make guys like you, governors i guess he's saying, look good. he's saying we've done a great job on the covid response this is from a tweet earlier, making all governors look good, some fantastic and that's okay but the media doesn't want to go with that narrative and the do- nothing dems talking point is to say only bad about trump. i made everybody look good, but me. now, i know you've been working your hiney off and i'm sure working in concert with the president but he seemed to be taking a bow for a lot of stuff that you're doing. >> yeah, let me just tell you, the president and vice president has just, did nothing but almost move mountains for the entire country. when you think where we were at 60 days ago to do what they did to get that cares package out as early as they did, it's almost retool the manufacturing across the united states, to make ppe supply for every states even the ones that were complaining they were continually trying to make sure and give them updates on that. to be critical of that being

donald the federal government to get all that done in 60 days people just need to sit back and take a breath here and realize what's been accomplished in 60 days by the president, the vice president and frankly the governors around the state what we've had to deal with and it's what makes me so proud to be a governor of my state of missouri and really frankly just be a citizen to this country. the one thing we should all learn from this whole exercise, we should never be dependent on foreign countries as much as we were, and for me as a state governor i need to take care of my state better and make sure i got manufactures in my state to make this , i don't have to depend on somebody else but look president and vice president, i can't imagine doing any more than they've done. it's easy to be critical of people. it's easy to do that. anybody can do that but when you're the one that has to get the job done it's a whole different scenario. neil: you might be right, sir but when i hear the president say he's doing a great job on the covid response and i'm looking at 88,000 american deaths i'm not blaming that certainly on the president exclusively or even governors. i am just saying for those

families planning funerals and the rest and sometimes not even able to see their loved ones, it just seems a little unseemly to be so cocky. >> well, look it's a terrible situation. any time anybody loses their lives no matter where you are from, no matter how many lives it is whether it's one or a thousand it effects some of these families and some of these loved ones and we need to all keep that in mind and people try to compare it to different kind of diseases still it's real people who are dying. people are still in the nursing homes and my state, and the people can't go see them like they once did, and i'm somebody that's seen my parents go through that system and it's not good but we got to figure out ways to do that but at the end of the day it is a virus. it is a deadly virus and people are going to die from it. we just got to do everything we can to protect the people that we can and now, we know really who is much more at risk as we go through this virus and we can start targeting those people and trying to do everything we can to make them safe and let them use it but at the end of the day a lot comes down to personal

responsibility of individuals, not government. neil: so what do you do, governor, and you've been very careful and deliberate about opening your state back up, but what measures are you using to either adjust that, redo that, and a spike in cases, hospitalizations, those who are testing positive for the virus, i know you've dramatically ramp ed up testing in your state. what would you do to say i've got to cool it. i've got to police this a little better? >> yeah, you know the first thing you had to realize is that the thing that was so frustrating at first was really the information the models that were coming out were just to inaccurate that i think it's frustrating for all of us governors and everybody so the first thing you do is you say okay, we got to really relate to what's going on in the state of missouri what's really happening in our state so i could make decisions because missouri is so diverse when you got st. louis and kansas city setting on both state lines, and then you have rural missouri in

between, you know there is no perfect blanket policy for that. so we knew st. louis, kansas city, somewhere bigger urban areas could be at more risk which they were, so once we started getting the information, that we could use we could start targeting those areas we could start putting more resources there, instead of trying to just blanket the whole state so again it comes down to really good accurate information. factual data that i could make decisions on and that's when i think we changed the tide in missouri and we started working with the urban areas, the rural areas and making decisions and looking back on it now, we're still not out of the woods on this thing, but by doing that, i think we're much better off than many other states in the united states. neil: governor, you've been very patient i was curious about this measure that went got a yes vote in the house when it doesn't seem to be going anywhere in the senate this $3 trillion stimulus plan that included a lot of help for governors such as yourself. are you just as happy that it doesn't look like it's going to go anywhere in the senate?

do you still need federal government help, how would you define it? >> you know, look. i'm thankful for what i got in the cares act for the states dealing with the covid-19 but you just can't go out there and build a christmas tree and send it out the door and when states start saying hey we need to be made whole or the federal government needs to bail us outlook. people that haven't done a good job and their states are managing their state whether it's class year, whether it's years before, should not be bailed out and shouldn't get an advantage overstates that have took the responsibility to balance their budgets and make sure you're prepared when a disaster hits and you can do that. there's a place for the federal government but we shouldn't always just reach out to the federal government and say you got to fix our problems in the state. that's what governors do, and you know, look. what they're doing is helpful, but i'm not going to ask the federal government to come in and bail out the entire state of missouri. you know, we could take share of some of the things ourselves and what we'll need we'll ask for but putting these bills like the house bill, and i'm not in

washington d.c., thank goodness and i want to be, but the reality of it is you just can't put a christmas tree out there and expect it's going to do anything. it's just almost like give me a break here, and all the time they're fooling around up there doing that kind of stuff knowing the senate won't even take it we got to deal with the situation at home. that sometimes i wish they would understand a little better every day they are up there we're having to deal with the true patients in our hospitals, people dying and testing positive we got a lot of work to do here. neil: well put. governor thank you very very much. we're going to be talking to the labor secretary of the united states on that very subject, balancing, getting the economy back on track and dealing with the one reality that's not about policy, it's not about being republican or democrat. 88,000 americans are dead. they're dead from this virus. that's the sobering reality. we'll have more after this.

too much of our crucial medicines medical supplies are in unreliable supply chains in countries like china. i think tax incentives that are targeted toward accelerating the return of those production lines pretty start smart to do and we've proposed a package to the white house to do exactly that. neil: all right, what they are saying is the ranking minority member certainly on the house ways and means committee the guy that came up with the tax cuts that we got is this notion that if we get heavy heavy dependency from china on the drugs and on related supplies, that we really depend on, 70% of them are coming from that neck of the woods so the administration kicking around the idea at least larry kudlow raised that maybe, we entice those companies back for that region and cut their tax rates in half, already pretty low right now, to incentivize them back to our

shores. let's get the read on all of this , labor secretary joining us out of washington d.c. secretary very good to have you. is that being given serious consideration, sir? >> i think that yes our dependency on other nations particularly china is something that is getting a careful look as we examine what our economic future is going to look like as we pull out of this coronavirus pandemic, and earlier this week, neil as you know the president took action to prevent federal retiree, funds from being invested in chinese companies including chinese manufactures and that was not in our national security interest, it wasn't in the interest of those retirees some of whom are military because of some risks that are presented by this chinese company. that's just one example. how about reassure praise all that i think will happen about our dependence on other countries particularly china. neil: you know, the reaction to cutting the corporate tax rate

already pretty low in half for some of these companies, i don't know how you sort that out , secretary, for those companies that are going to look over and say well why is their rate half minor the american people's reaction, when a lot of them are wanting more of these $1,200 checks, do you have any vision on either? >> my position is that generally, we are reopening, as you just emphasized a moment ago its been an extraordinarily difficult time for the american people, so many lives lost, so many families disrupted, and so many people out of work but we're not pulling out of that and we need to take a look at additional measures to sustain american manufacturing, that has been an emphasis of this president from the day he began running it was more than anything else that prompted the president to run. u.s. mca has been one of his great achievements and that was about saving american manufacturing, saving american jobs, and i think continued

focus on that makes sense. in terms of other measures, let's see what we need. congress, the president acted so quickly in march. there's been a lot of stimulus in there, and the focus now from my perspective is on the reopening. neil: you're the labor secretary of the united states. you have more than anyone with the job losses that have piled up and those filing for unemployment claims, secretary, we're now in the last eight weeks 36.5 million americans have filed for such benefit fears that the unemployment rate could jump up to 20% even test the all-time high of close to 25% during the great depression. what do you think of how bad this gets? >> let me take issue with one phrase that you've used, neil which is job losses. there are tens of millions of americans that have been put out of work and it's great hardship for them, but many of those jobs are not lost yet, and i've seen three different surveys over the

last week showing that about 90% of americans on unemployment think it's temporary, think they are going back to those jobs. what we want to do now is get them back there, safely. the longer the reopening takes i think the harder that gets, but this is a really unusual economic circumstance we're in and it did not result from problems in the underlying fundamentals as , for example, the great depression. so i think analogies there are of limited value. what we have is a -- neil: let me give you a current one if you don't mind, sir and that is what's happening now, with the tensions between ourselves and the chinese and the president is obviously very concerned they were not being level with him when talking about the coronavirus, obviously talks about, you know, the shielding our investments in chinese-related firms. i get that but it seems to me and your closer read than i'll ever be that that china deal that trade deal is all but smoke right now. do you have any concern that the jobs and

the bang for the buck we were hoping to get for the trade deal because we trusted the chinese would make good on those commitments now is in doubt because we already know they weren't on the up and up about this virus. >> well, we'll need them to abide by their commitments, obviously, and i think that assumes greater importance not less, because of other miss givings that they've caused from how they handled the virus, but i think as we look forward again , millions of americans out of work, what we're focused on is making that temporary by safely reopening the economy right now, putting people back to work, and as we reopen, across the country we're already seeing that. this has been so fluid, neil, and we're finally seeing people getting back to work. it's a good sign. neil: sir, thank you very much. it's always good chatting with you. >> appreciate it. neil: labor secretary of united states,scalia, by the way we're keeping an eye on this military mission that's supposed to take

off from cape canaveral later on today it's battling winds and everything, it's a secret military mission that's about all we know about it we'll have more after this.

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when it comes to china, this isn't a surprise. we know that china for a very long time have been very bad actors. neil: you're saying secretary that they are not only trying to hack and get that information, but take it for themselves right in other words to use this and advance their own possible remedy vaccines, anything that might deal with this , and find a cure for this. >> yes, that's exactly right. i think what they're targeting again is not only the intellectual property that

we're creating here, again, when we talk about covid-19 research but again, targeting our personnel, to steal that information so that they can be at the cutting-edge of that research. neil: now the chinese are denying this , this accusation, with the acting homeland security secretary chad wolf and others by the way expressed that they are trying to hack into various medical systems, proprietary, biotech and pharmaceutical companies research and development when it comes to potential treatment vaccine, cure, you name it, for the coronavirus. dr. gregory glenn is with us right now, the research and development, doctor, how realistic is this threat that the chinese can crash into sites , hack into sites maybe for all i know, your own and just steal stuff. >> well, look, we have our feet

as biotech companies in two arenas. one is to make a product and the other one is to pursue science, so the scientific endeavor is, you know, the companies scientific publications usually are sprout from work they've donald then the basis of as you know, moving forward the product is often to have a patent and proprietary information, so i don't know. i think that we have a global view. we think that the u.s. biotech industry is so robust that we're going to come up with vaccines that can save the world and so i'm not the kind of person to adjudicate too much on this except to say that we pursue the best science, we're trying to make enough product that of course, we cover america first but we can also then cover the rest of the world and all

this can happen simultaneously, so i'm not losing too much sleep over this topic to tell the truth. i'm much more focused on getting the vaccine out the door as soon as possible. neil: well as you should be, sir that's a very good answer there. so let me get this , i know it's a gut call, but the president maybe by the end of this year or the early part of next year the vaccine will be in-hand. that will obviously be much faster than any other such vaccine has ever gotten to the market but hope springs eternal especially with the united states government is involved and treats this almost like a modern day medicine marshall plan, but we've seen the chinese do that as the big government working with some of its premier companies i believe the germans are doing much the same thing, the united kingdom working closely with oxford university and a host of british biotech and pharmaceutical concerns. how do you think this is all going and the pace of it? >> that's a great survey that sounds like you're really in touch with what's going on.

look, i think what our government, our president is doing is the right instinct to engage, there's no biotech industry like the u.s. biotech industry. it's very robust with deep scientific roots and the nih,sc ripps institute and great institutions of scientific learning so to employ that in a way that is as the way they are talking about this the sort of warp speed is exactly the right instinct to incentivize companies, we don't need to be pushed, we can be incentivized to get very quickly to a vaccine that requires, you know, public, private partnership but that's not new for us. vaccine companies work with the cdc, the fda,nih,barta, so these interactions that's well characterized space operationally, so i think it's perfect timing to really push

this vaccine out the door and i'm very optimistic and my gut is if you look at the steps going forward first of all, you have to look, you know, what's the probability? vaccines work. they've been a long history of working. vaccine for respiratory-type diseases we know what to look for early on so in my mind, there's every reason to believe that we're going to come up with a vaccine, that's safe and efficacious. we may need to compress and we are many things taking some risks so what you see are the clinical tests these trials going on but there's another and that's the tip of the iceberg is theres another very big change to it, how much can you make and where are you making it et cetera so all that's going on at risk assuming and i think rightly so the vaccine could work. neil: all right, from your now, thank you very much, doctor. >> okay, thank you.

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neil: all right just updating you this ula atlas launch has been scrubbed this is the airport space plane that's actually supposed to be the

secret military mission that will perform experiments in orbit scrubbed because of the weather high winds i'm told so they are going to take another shot at this tomorrow and of course the big one everyone is waiting for in this country is the return to space travel on may 27 when spacex, that's elon musk's space venture is joining nasa to launch a mission that be the first mission from u.s. soil in the better part of a decade. that again is from may 27, this is a separate military mission, unmanned and we don't have much more details on that, it's super secret! senator bill cassidy joins us right now, the louisiana republican. here now, to sort of weigh what the senate does after the house and it was a close vote. voted for $3 trillion in stimulus, and that actually got 14 democrats voting against it concerned that maybe this wasn't all that it appeared to be.

the good senator is kind enough to join us via skype. always good to see you. is there anything in this package and i know it's weighted down by a lot of things that have nothing or very little to do with the coronavirus, that you like, or that you be open to reconsidering in a potential senate measure? >> so there's enough to like the sense that it is there to help the american people in different aspects of the response to coronavirus, but it's almost a cynical play if you will in which they just kind of bury other left wing agenda into that which will be good, but that said, i am supporting the police officers, first aid, first responder, sanitation workers, firefighters, and they have something but it's so crazy it'll never pass, mine is reasonable i think it will pass. i think we should rename our bill the thin blue line bill supporting those essential government workers. neil: all right, would it be the state aid bill, would any

portion of it be state aid? i notice in this one it depends on how you break it down, senator better than a trillion dollars is earmarked, that's a bit of a majority these days for help for the states, actually if you include even indirect help for cities and municipalities now you're up to around $1.75 trillion. having said that are you open to state aid here? >> so the bill that i'm advancing with robert menendez would give state aid but it wouldn't be $1.3 trillion. it be about 500 billion, it be laid out according to a states population, the amount of impact coronavirus has had on the state, and then the economic impact the virus has had, how much has it collapsed your tax base going to both cities and the states but ultimately from there to those first-line responders, the police, the fire , et cetera. that's far different from there's we'll have restrictions against unfunded accrued liability for pension plans.

we'll have other guardrails to protect the taxpayer and i'm afraid what ms. pelosi put out is a bonanza for a public service union. neil: you know as a doctor yourself, senator i'm just wondering when we look at the trajectory you said some spike in cases is inevitable, i'm paraphrasing and you obviously want to contain that and you also want to make sure there's a lid on those testing positive for the virus but testing has increased to the degree we are going to get more cases so i'm just wondering, how you balance that out and look at it not only in your state but across the country. >> you got to have a strategy for testing in which we look at those micro communities in which there's a lot of infection, and we put resources there to contain. generally speaking if you look across a state, it's not equally present across a state. you have a hot bed here, and even within that hot bed, you have a hot-hot bed and even

within there, you have one building with lots of folks infected say in nursing homes. the degree that we use our information to figure out where the patients are, protect them but also keep the infection from spreading out, we protect us all sometimes the cities statistics are skewed by one small area of the city. if we focus on that area, others can live more freely the economy can return to normal and we save lives. neil: doctor, senator, i think both are very valuable for us and certainly for the country. i appreciate it. thank you very much for getting up on a saturday to be with us, louisiana senator bill cassidy. all right we are focusing on this country getting back to work you hear that every day you've also heard about how major league baseball is trying to get this season going maybe in july. you've also heard about how the nfl is trying to get its games off in the fall but you probably have heard as well that one sport beat them all to the punch, nascar, starting its

engines tomorrow. after this. >> [car engines revving ]

neil: all right nascar is back, beginning tomorrow, at darlington, south carolina, we heard from a lot of people, how would you like to meet someone whose actually going to be driving in it? eric marolla is a nascar driver front and center and a lot of pressure for tomorrow. how are you holding up it's pressure city there. >> yeah, thanks for having me, neil. i'm holding up well, i'm excited and ready to go back to work and get back in my race car. i really miss that adrenaline rush of going 200 miles an hour, inches away from my competitors and feeling that thrill of competition. neil: will it be weird, aric, with no one in the stands? i know it's going to start out that way but how is that part going to go down?

>> it's going to be very weird. there's no way around that it's going to be very different and awkward. we're used to feeling the energy and just the electricity of the crowd and to see empty grand stands it's going to be very different compared to 100,000 fans in the stands, and an infield that's a racetrack full of campers that have been hanging out camping the entire weekend so it's going to be very different but we're going to have a lot of eyeballs on it not like we'll have any fans. our fans will be just watching it on tv. neil: yeah, and you'll have a lot of those , so let me ask you a little bit you and a lot of your fellow drivers haven't had much of a chance to practice you've had virtually no chance to do that and i'm wondering, whether you're just going to be rough and whether that is a factor. >> absolutely you know for me, personally, i've been training

physically and i've been mental ly preparing through watching film and going over notes and studying with my crew chief and my engineers, but there's nothing like the real thing, and so not being in the race car for two months now, there is certainly going to be some rust to knock off when we get back in the race car, and unfortunately, we don't have any practice. normally we show up to a racetrack and we practice for a couple hours prior to the event. now we're going to show up in the first lapse we're going to make at 190 miles an hour are going to be the green flag of the actual race, so it is going to be a little different for us. neil: please don't tell me you were practicing at home with the family car getting ready for this. >> [laughter] no i would not do that. my wife would have a problem if i did that with two kids in the car so no i've not been able to do that, but there's a lot that we can do.

there's the virtual racing, nascar came back with i-racing and e-sports so there's a lot that we have done but nothing replaces the real thing, in that real, you know, the real competition so it's going to be our first time back in the race car, and feeling that adrenaline rush that we all love in that close quarters 190 miles an hour is something that we haven't done in two months, so we're all itching to get back going but there's a little bit of anxious ness involved as well. neil: i'm sure you're going to do great. i'd be like a nervous wreck but i'm a horrible driver under the best circumstances so i trust you're a tad better than that. aric, thank you, very good luck tomorrow. i don't think you'll need it but be well and be safe. thank you guys i appreciate the and make sure if you're watching an tuning in you cheer for that number 10 car we have smithfield and good food challenge my partner on the car, smithfield has done an

incredible thing and donated 40 million servings of protein to feeding america across the country and for everybody that tunes into social media and puts hashtag good food challenge on their social channel, smith field will donate an extra 10 meals of protein to feeding america so we've got a lot going on this weekend and hope everybody tunes in. neil: all right, good luck tomorrow. be well. thanks for all you're doing. in the meantime here we want to bring your attention back to the back and forth over what the obama administration did and who in that administration knew it. the president of the united states said maybe lindsey graham the judiciary committee should drag president obama to testify, lindsey graham has already said he doesn't think that's a good idea and then he used to run that committee, chuck grassley you'll never believe what he said, after this. our retirement plan with voya gives us confidence. yeah, they help us with achievable steps along the way... ...so we can spend a bit now,

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neil: general flynn unmasking issue that's come to light, senator if he were thinking very clear advising lindsey graham have president obama, haul him before congress what do you think of that? >> well i'll leave that to chairman graham, because he didn't tell me how to run the committee the four years i was chairman of the committee but i do know this. we do know that there was a meeting that took place on january 5 at the white house that all these people including biden were involved and obama involved and that there was a leak to the press, and the leak to the press on january 12 was a criminal act and we need to pursue all these facts.

i hope graham does have a hearing and if he has a hearing i'm going to be there participating but in the meantime i've got my investigative team in the finance committee working on this full time and we're going to follow these facts to where they lead us, but for sure, we need to know what obama and biden knew and when did they know it. neil: all right, we have already heard lindsey graham as i said that while you can appreciate the presidents interest in getting the former president to testify at the hearing it is just not going to happen. and the former justice department official all around legal genius here to shepherd me through this whole process, tom good to see you. i guess it wasn't very likely barack obama be called to testify anyway. would it have any value and would the former president or any president in that capacity be forced to testify? >> well, neil first it's great

to see you too and look in my view, i think senator graham is right in kind of pumping the brakes a little bit on having former president obama come into testify. i think right now what we know based on the record is that there were certainly a lot of high level obama administration officials who were showing great interest in michael flynn in the days leading up to the inauguration so the first step is to talk to those former administration officials finding out what was going on behind the scenes in the crazy days leading up to the trump inauguration and later down the road eevaluate and have president obama coming in but i don't see them doing it at this moment. neil: you know, where is all of this going, tom? sometimes i like to step way way back and just get a sense that you hear the obama folks say we didn't know who we were fingering we just knew that we were, there was this entity that was talking to the russian

ambassador at the time and then we wanted to get an idea of who that might be, low and behold it turns out to be general flynn, but the timing of some of the request make you wonder whether this was pre-ordained in other words if they knew more than they were saying. what do you think about this timing issue? >> timing is certainly curious, neil and the fact that there were so many different obama administration officials who were making these unmasking requests and low and behold in many instances it turns out to be general flynn. i think the question here that's going to be really interesting to get the answer to is what were they seeing in the intelligence report that prompted the unmasking request because you're right. when they made those requests, they didn't know that it was going to be general flynn on the other end but they were see ing something out there in those reports and the transfers of reported conversation that made them say let's figure out

whose behind the curtain and theophano saw it was in fact general flynn. neil: so tom, general flynn at the time, you know, was saying there was nothing unusual at least they were saying talking to anyone, because his capacity on incoming administration, it would make sense, others are saying, well you said you didn't talk to the ambassador when in fact you did so you lied and all of this. it seems to be a moot point for the time being but where is this going? >> well i think it's going to go in the near future. we're going to get some answers, as to precisely who was making these unmasking requests, we've already gotten the list that mr. grinell declassified the other day so you already know some of the people making requests and i think where this is going so we're going to get later insight into what led them to make the request, in other words, were there legitimate national security concerns that they were seeing in the evidence in these reported polls that prompted the request and when they made

the request, did they know that it was actually going to be general flynn revealed to be behind the curtain? neil: got it. well already, tom thank you very very much. we'll have a lot more including travel plan, after this. ...

>> all right. we're hearing that governor cuomo of new york is going to have a briefing in about 30 minutes now this on the heels of learning that new york, new jersey, delaware, connecticut are all planning to open their beaches up to and after memorial day. but you know, a lot of people don't need to be sort of told what to do or wait for what they're cued to do. this is the scene in downtown manhattan, where restaurants are still technically closed. you get curbside pickup and all that, but a lot of them don't look like curbside pickup, tables outside. a lot of them are saying, look

it, it's outside, it's no big deal, take a chill pill. a lot of governors are dealing with this and a lot of people are saying, look, we have to stay in business, especially in the restaurant industry looking up to one out of four of them never reopening. so, a lot of them are start of taking matters into their own hands and they've been critical of the very, very slow process of reopening their states. if we don't do something ourselves, we're never going to be open at all. if you want to ticket us, or fine us. some governors get a little rough on this. we'll see what governor cuomo plans to do about that as the beaches reopen not only in his state eventually, but certainly across the tri-state area. let's get the latest read on this and what will not be and how long this is going to take. i think you're back in manhattan, right? >> i am, midtown manhattan, it's

desolate, isolated. neil, grim news from the c.d.c., basically expecting those deaths, coronavirus deaths to surpass 100,000 by june 1st. the c.d.c. director, dr. robert redfield tweeting the details, 12 dinner forecasting models forecasting an increase in deaths in the coming weeks. the northeast though continues to lead the nation in deaths. new york, new jersey, massachusetts account for nearly half of all covid-19 deaths across the nation. despite that, new jersey opened sop beaches on social distancing guidelines. new york plans to open all of its state run beaches memorial day weekend and new york's public beaches remain closed. >> no group contact activities, no volleyball, no football, nothing like that. masks must be worn by employees and visitors must have masks and

wear them when they can't socially distance. >> also, travel is changing. tsa preparing to check passengers temperatures at roughly a dozen airports as soon as next week. a senior trump official says the initial rollout would cost less than $20 million. passengers would not be charged an additional fee. no word on which airports launch first as details of the plan are still being finalized. and file this under the things i won't forget in 2020 category. portnoy selling shirts teasing a potential run for office in 2024 with who else, but tech billionaire elon musk as his running mate, urging portnoy to run for office after portnoy had a profanity laced rant, when the businesses will be open. and that viral video has been viewed more than seven million times on twitter alone in two

days, so it's resonating with a lot of folks, neil. neil: i don't want to catch you off guard on some of this, but when we show some restaurants where they're dining outside and closed inside, i get that. obviously, they're tempting fate here, potential summons and the like from the governor and local officials, but they're screaming pretty loudly and clearly, they don't do this, they don't have a business at all. do we know of anyone who tried to crack down on these guys when they do that? >> we have not heard of anyone doing that yet. we know that, of course, n.y.p.d. is out making sure that people are social distancing. as far as businesses go, no, we haven't heard n.y.p.d. cracking down on that. neil: all right. thank you very much. in the middle of that at midtown manhattan, again, as she's indicated, kind after ghost town. they're trying to implore the governor how long you're going to keep it a ghost town. and the midtown area hardest hit

in the country and right now with the latest count that we could get over 100,000 deaths for the coronavirus with new york, new jersey leading the way. you can well understand local officials' reluctance. in the meantime, that stimulus that went up for a pretty close vote in the house of representatives, a lot of folks say dead on arrival at the senate, but it wasn't all exclusive party lines. more than a dozen democrats who voted against it including oklahoma democratic congresswoman among those to say no, no, this isn't my cup of tea, kendra horn. congresswoman good to have you. why were you a no-vote on that congresswoman? >> good morning, glad to be here. i was a no vote because we're in midst of a crisis with covid-19, in order to get the support and stimulus where it needs to go we have to make sure they're timely, targeted and

transparent. requiring that bills be passed through the house, senate and signed into law to get the help to our communities, first responders, businesses, this didn't have strong bipartisan support targeted. we need to be focused on the areas that covid-19 has impacted and this bill contained a lot of extraneous provisions and finally, on transparency, we got a 1800 page bill on tuesday. and we're asked to vote on it on friday. in order to respond to this unprecedented crisis, we have to be able to have open debate and discussion across the aisle to get to solutions that work for everybody in our communities and this just didn't meet those bars. neil: now, some opposition was expected, congresswoman, not the 14, including yourself of the democrats who didn't vote for this. now, some were saying, well, you're in a republican area, you've won in a republican area and you're feeling the pressure,

i believe the other representatives republicans were similarly against this. do you feel that pressure? does it put you in an odd position? >> it's not about pressure to me. it's about good governance, making sure that the people in my community and the businesses, the health care workers, get the support they need, and in order to do that, we've got to get it across the finish line. we can't be playing partisan games, i don't care which side of the aisle you're on, with this pandemic. this is not a time for partisanship. it's a time for us to get to work and get the resources and support to our state and local governments, our cities that are suffering, our businesses that are trying to keep open and our families, many of whom have lost their job through no-fault of their own. this is go getting things done and getting it done the right way because the help is needed and we should all come together to make that happen. neil: you know, more people are talking, congresswoman, about the way this was voted on, whether you're a democrat or republican, but by proxy,

remotely, and that this, you know, is probably not a good path to follow. a number of democratic and republican representatives have told me that. does that give you pause? >> well, i supported the change to the rules that allowed proxy voting or remote hearings because right now it is more important than ever that we are able to conduct the full business of the house and if we have some members that have underlying health conditions, and need to participate remotely, i think there are safeguards in place, but i believe we have to be fully in session and fully engaged because the needs of our communities are too great right now, and we have other work to do. i'm on the armed services committee, we have to finish the defense authorization bill. we have to get appropriations done. and then we have to make sure that the programs we pass are actually working, as they're intended. so all of these things have to happen and whether it's in person and i'm here, i'm happy to be here to do the work because the communities need it,

those safeguards are in place, it's just for the emergency. but we can't stop conducting all of our constitutional responsibilities. neil: congresswoman kendra horn. thank you very much for taking the time, we do appreciate it. >> thank you very much. thanks, neil. neil: i don't know if you're intended or not to fly. very few are these days. but eventually people are going to get back into the skies. let's just say you better be prepared to wait. there's a reason why some airports are suggesting you get to your flight four hours ahead of time. that's right, four hours ahead of time. you're going to be busy. leland vittert on that, on america's news headquarters. and i'm kind of like the warm-up act like zz top. you're too young to remember zz top. what's going on lee hand with-- leland with this? >> my mother says she's going to have to show up for her flight the night before if this continues.

there's a homeland security source who warns that the temperature is for them to do something. besides your shoes and laptops you'll face a thermometer at the check point. and the wall street journal says they might change things in the coming days. we're learning of problems with thermal scanning since each of the trial airports are din, the tsa needs to design different systems and it's unclear how the temperature will be taken by the tsa. what happens if your temperature is above 100.4 and who deals with people who require secondary screening. first thing's first, the thermal cameras that have the temperatures from a distance are accurate, and differences of a degree or two. and has the question of the tsa officers use forehead thermometers, that brings the question, does the tsa have the

legal authority to check your temperature. what happens specifically if you have a fever. plus this additional interaction with passengers comes with increased risk. already tsa says 500 of their officers have become sick and six died from covid-19. what happens to an officer who comes in contact with someone who has a fever. what protection will they wear? last my source who has close relationships to the tsa says the walk through body scanners where you put your hands above your ahead may be going away because they're enclosed and with the covid-19 could spread from passenger to passenger and screening for thermal imaging for passengers was tried once in trial programs, but abandoned because of the number of false positives and frustration by passengers and customs and border protection with the program. obviously now there's a lot more focus on the need for screening passengers, neil, to see if they're sick, but the situation of how to do it seems far from

certain or clear. neil: this has never been a pleasant process to begin with. it's going to be decidedly less so, i guess, in the weeks and months ahead, leland. leland: indeed. very much. neil: all right. buddy. see you at the top of the next hour. leland vittert on all of this. remember, we were showing you this picture in downtown manhattan where a lot of restaurants and all were open and looked like business as usual. no word yet on whether governor cuomo is going to crack down on that sort of activity. i will tell you this, illinois's democratic governor pritzker, he already is after this. looks like they picked the wrong getaway driver. they're going to be paying for this for a long time. they will, but with accident forgiveness allstate won't raise your rates just because of an accident, even if it's your fault. cut! sonny. was that good? line! the desert never lies. isn't that what i said? no you were talking about allstate and insurance.

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>> you know, we discovered that protests have a way of sort of pouncing on rules that are in place where you have to shelter in place. now, we remember the salon owner

in texas that she couldn't open her shop, opened on the sidewalk and got a summons, go to jail, and the governor intervened and got her out of jail. and those in michigan say the governor has taken a lockdown to a whole new level. and in various states, new york among them, restaurants and shop owners looking from the outside looking like business as usual here. people express their frustration with shutdown rules very, very differently. that doesn't make it any easier for those that are trying to open up when a governor is clamping down. and fast eddie's a restaurant owner is with us now on this. it's interesting because the governor now in your state, illinois democratic governor jd pritzker is threatening the state police and others who wanted even partially open when he says they can't.

has anyone was trying to crack down on you? >> nobody is trying to crack down because we've followed the rules. we don't want to lose our state liquor license so we've stayed closed by the governor's rule. neil: so, obviously others have not or they've jumped-- many going to st. louis because things are open there. >> correct. neil: are you attempted? do you look at this and say-- i'm exaggerating, but i could just do this? >> you're not really exaggerating. madison county is right on the river and that's from st. louis, missouri, they were on earlier, 20 minutes from here, you can go, you can eat, drink, get together and go out just like we do here. madison county is through a bipartisan vote agreed that we're a different region than chicago or parts of illinois that this may still be necessary for. but now we're right on the border of areas that are opening

up and we have a lot to lose by losing that state liquor license by trying to protest or trying to-- absolutely we want to -- we're willing to do whatever it takes we're getting desperate, but i don't know if it's worth of loss of that license. neil: no, i can appreciate that for you. though i am curious though, eddie, why is illinois so slow? illinois and michigan come to mind as being the slowest of the states to my reckoning for opening up, maybe for good reason. i'm not aware of the case breakdown or deaths, hospitalizations. what's going on? >> i think in some parts, in the chicago area i think they have bad numbers that are still call it the curve, whatever you want. a lot of people think it's strictly a political thing, you know, with the machine in chicago restricting the whole state as one. and i know our numbers down here are very reasonable and equal to missouri, literally like you said feet away. and i know our hospitals aren't

overwhelmed. we have-- we don't have a political issue here. everybody agrees it's time to anticipate this part of the state and as we're all as one now, the border, i mean, we are on the border. the river is all that divides us across the bridge and you're in st. louis and you're in missouri. neil: and that's startling. >> different opinions. neil: yeah, i hear you. eddie, we hear from a lot of surveys that are out that one out of four restaurants/bars will likely never reopen. do you find that figure high? >> i do not find that figure high. we've been here 40 years. we're large, we're successful. we're second generation and things that will help me stay here and we'll be here, but it would be so hard in a different position or a different situation. 25% to me seems reasonable they don't come back. it's hard, it's really, really hard, even with things that happened, the ppp and the different things for the

employees to benefit from, so there's been some things that will probably make that number stay lower than it would have been. i mean, great things happen to keep some guys around longer than they would have, but it's going to be very hard for some to come back. neil: well, you hang in there, eddie. everything i've heard about you and you're a destination, so hopefully that will be the case when things reopen. hang in there, all right. >> thank you very much for having us. neil: all right. i was honored. eddie, thank you. all right. in the meantime, forget about when do restaurants reopen, will schools reopen? i'm talking about the fall. you know, a lot of them aren't so sure after this.

>> we're about seven minutes away from here from hearing from new york governor cuomo. and i have dr. marc siegel on, and what do you want to hear from governor cuomo. it's the hardest hit state, and new jersey, and both are planning reopening of their beaches under very strict guidelines and what have you. what do you make of how those states are handling things? >> i think that, neil, it has to do with introducing something where things open very, very slowly and social distancing is preserved. i think that these states have-- we've all locked down, but as we emerge from being a hot spot, which we clearly, new york and new jersey have been the number one hot spots, we need to do it in a way where some of the lessons learned are kept in place. even if you open restaurants, restaurants are a good example, neil, they're set up with

drive-thru service and employees are already being careful with masks and gloves. can we do it in a way where we preserve social distancing? that's how we're going to decrease the spread of the virus as we come out of this thing in the hot zones. one thing for sure, new york is definitely on the decline of the number of cases, the number of hospitalizations and the number of deaths. my own hospital has seen closures of two covid wards in the last couple of days. neil: so you obviously look at hospitalizations as a forward-looking indicator. death counts of still very high and i'm wondering, they remain high and bounce around from 1500 to 2000 cases a way. where do you think this ultimately ends? i mean, over 100,000 deaths, 130, 150,000? >> neil, i can't speculate on the number of deaths because it's always based on mathematical modeling. clearly, we're not there yet and clearly, your point is right, we're not out of this yet and i think my answer to you is, we need to pay careful attention to

emerging hot zones. now, how do we do that? we need to continue to ramp up testing. we've got three kinds of testing out there right now. antigen tests that are rapid point of care that looks at a protein that's on the virus, that's not 100% accurate. we've got the ones, you know about, the pcr tests that are about 60% accurate. but i've got breaking news for you, yesterday, a publication published a study that showed that recovering patients of covid-19 actually are developing the kind of antibodies that constitute immunity. that's such great news, neil, because i think the road out of here is with antibody tests that say, you had it, you're over it, you can go back to school, you can go back to work. if we can really prove immunity in recovering patients, that will help us enormously to reconstitute reopening. reopening's got to be based on testing. neil: obviously, we were showing

before, doctor, these states and all where people are, you know, aren't only protesting and just really furious that it's taking so long, but in some locals in the downtown manhattan, for example, a lot of shops opening up that have outdoor seating because if they don't they say they're going to go out of business. in states like illinois they slap you with fines and worse for that sort of stuff. how do you as a doctor juggle that? you can understand the pressure economically they're under, but how would you handle that? >> neil, this is a really -- this is the multi-billion dollar question, right? so first i would tell you what i'm deeply disturbed about is not protesting because the united states is built on protesting. but the protesters are not social distancing. that's hits at the heart. if you want to reopen, and protesting, what points are you making when you're close together with someone and that's important and it's clearly important in the state of

illinois as well, which is actually one of our emerging hot spots. illinois is a state that i'm actually worried about right now. so, i think we've got to figure out a way to-- and the other paint point you're making is depths of despair. people are getting sick from other things from covid-19, depression, anxiety, not seeking prompt medical attention because they're afraid to go 0 an emergency room, those are huge collateral damage we have to start to take into account. we in nyu and around new york, opening up elective procedures and surgeries. some of those procedures are not really elective. some are gall bladders, some of them are heart surgeries, some of them are cardiac stents, things that we really need that we call elective, but are really more semi urgent than elective. neil: i heard one cardiologist say when i make a recommendation, it isn't elective. i think you have to have this done. doctor, thank you very, very

much. >> thanks, neil. >> dr. marc siegel, really smart. we'll get an update on that in new york with governor cuomo and where things stand right now for a virus that's certainly conquered the world. the united states, 88,000 deaths. stay with us. because it's the right thing to do. we're also giving payment relief options to eligible members so they can take care of things like groceries before they worry about their insurance or credit card bills. right now is the time to take care of what matters most. like we've done together, so many times before. discover all the ways we're helping members at usaa.com/coronavirus

>> all right. it was a seat that flipped and

no one saw that coming. the republican seat, held by a democrat since 1998. good to have you here, sir, congratulations. >> great to be here, neil. thanks for having me. neil: i've seen you elsewhere. you can update me. what do you think changed the race for you? you kept pounding the economy, kept pounding the bigger issues, the bread and butter issues, but i wasn't watching day by day. what do you think won it for you? >> i don't know that anything changed overnight or since the primary, we've been running for over a year and the message of bringing jobs back here, lowering taxes, deregulating and allowing small businesses to thrive is just a message, frankly, that's been strong and resonating here and you know, on the hills of katie hill, people were looking for strong leadership, someone running for the right reasons, a patriot and

combat and 500 volunteers in the district. this was a real grass roots campaign where i had folks on the ground knocking on doors and you know, making phone calls to the tune of 50,000 calls a day. a lot of that was curtailed with the coronavirus, but we managed to still evolve and overcome and outperform our opponents. neil: you know, we talk about how this could maybe signal or telegraph what will happen this fall, you know, depending on the polls and they're all over the map. they were all over the map for you. i always think that there are no two that are alike when i see some that showed the president trailing nationally in the popular vote and doing well in battle ground states and another poll opposite of that. where do you think american sentiment is? do you think it turned on how republicans or the president specifically responds to this coronavirus? >> yeah, and i'll tell you this, that as someone who has never run for office and i'm a true

political outsider when i saw these polls and a lot of of these questions being asked, it reaffirmed the fact you can't trust any of the polls. you can make a poll say anything you want. i'll tell you this is a purple district. california 25th district northern l.a., parts of ventura county, very purple district and people are underestimating the popularity right now of president trump and it's not just among the republicans, but also the middle third of americans and especially here in california, who just want to be able to continue to afford to live in california and want to see jobs improve, wages go up, and this economy get back on its feet. when you look at who you trust to lead us through this recovery, it should be put back in the hands of the folks that got us to this thriving economy, record-setting economy around the world and that is this administration and the republican party, especially with the house led by the republicans, will actually

effect the greatest change and get back to the greatest economy in that the world has ever seen. >> all bets are off if the unemployment rate continues to skyrocket, right? >> that's a challenge. we've got to figure out how to navigate this. this is all uncharted water. while we continue to drive the infection rate down and be mindful of the health and safety of our constituents, we have to work with the businesses, the small businesses, the large businesses and figure out how to mitigate and still get back to turning the lights on and get back to work and creating the jobs and working on the demand side of this economy, and you know, just throwing more money at it from the federal government does not make an economy. the economy needs to reinvigorate and we need to get back out there working and also buying goods. neil: all right. congressman elect. again, congratulations. good luck to you. >> thanks, neil. neil: you've got your work cut out for it. >> we do, thank you very much. neil: all right. thank you. i want to go to governor cuomo

right now, he's announcing as expected that hospitalizations, other data is looking very, very favorable. i believe this would represent the 16th day in a row of declining hospitalizations. i could be off a little bit here, but that's the good news and some of the plans he has to deal with fully reopening the state in waves here, beginning with upstate new york. the new york metropolitan area, that's a slow go. let's listen in. >> hospitals, we're dealing basically with the covid patients. we are past that period. if you need medical attention, if you need a medical procedure, you should get it, right? and the hospitals are safe places to go to the extent people are worried about going to a hospital. there's no reason. and the caveat is always as we reopen, this is a new phase. this is an unknown phase. nobody can tell you exactly what happens because nobody has been

here before. that's stone to stone across the morras, take the step that you know is a firm step and then you watch and see what happens. what happens depends on what we do. that's why this has been such a unique situation, not for governments, but for society. what will happen? well, tell me what you're going to do and i'll tell you what will happen. how can that be? because you're in control of what happens. how you act will determine what happens to you literally. will i get infected? depends on what you do. will we have a higher infection rate? depends on what we do. you increase economic activity, we expect to see an increase in numbe numbers. we don't want to see a spike. well, will there be a spike? it depends on how people react

and it depends on their personal behavior. are they wearing masks? are they using hand sanitizer? it's getting warmer. there's going to be a natural increase in activity anyway. people are going to come out of their homes. they've been there for a long time. the weather is warmer, they're going to come out. how do they act when they come out? and that is the big question mark. are they reopening with all of those question marks? i sit there and i have the conversations with experts. what's going to happen, what's going to happen. they say you tell me how people react and i'll tell you what's going to happen. but i don't know how people are going to react. well, then i can't tell you what's going to happen. so if people are smart, then, yes, you will see some increase in the numbers, but you won't see a spike. you've seen spikes in other countries that have opened. you've seen spikes in states

that have opened. we have an intelligent, and i believe the most intelligent system, but it's still rely-- reliant on-- >> we're listening to governor cuomo, a conundrum that all governors are in up to the president of the united states. when is this process going to speed up, recognizing there are 157 new deaths in new york and that in this country we are averaging anywhere from 1500 to 2000 new deaths a day versus hospitalizations a more forward-looking indicator improving in the new york metropolitan area. governor cuomo is one of those who has a state that's kind of bifurcated. the upstate of new york city and boroughs are a hot bed and issues not resolved, versus the less crowded upstate region you don't have nearly as many cases

so manufacturing, construction activity, can resume there, like rochester new york, utica, new york, the southwest sphere of binghamton, new york. that's kind of the state strategy for new jersey, phil murphy is taking. both governors agreed as have the governors of delaware to reopen beaches by memorial day, again with stringent crowd controls in effect. he is going to address a little later on, also, this issue with a lot of the nursing homes that are in disarray right now. disproportionate number of deaths, not only in new york and new jersey, but across the country have been occurring at senior centers and nursing homes and that's been a very big issue. it's a very big worry for new york state assemblyman ron kim who joins us right now. assemblyman, thank you for taking the time. i know right now they're looking at how to contain this, but they have a devil of a time doing it.

one of the issues is, if you have the coronavirus entering such a home and such a center, you're not allowed in there. do you endorse that? assemblyman, can you hear us? apparently not. all right, we're going to work on that here. to update you, maybe we can get this fixed guys, if not i don't want to put him on the spot or me on the spot for what it's worth. the nursing homes and senior centers, they still have the issue. guys, can we dip back into governor cuomo because i believe he is addressing this issue as we speak. governor cuomo. >> state of new york, 14 billion dollars, $14 billion, which was' ce assessed in the first place, after the house passes the bill, it goes to the senate and that's where the bill is now and to the senate, they should respond

quickly. i understand from their point of view, they say, well, we funded businesses, we funded millionaires, yeah, good. that's nice. how about working americans? and that's what the senate should think about. how do you actually help the american people. and my two cents, they shouldn't delay, they shouldn't be captive of special interests. i don't care who gave you money to run for office, you still work for the people. no corporate bailouts, don't bail out corporations and have them turn around and lay off american workers. don't let them use money to subsidize employee layoffs. don't do that, that would betray the trust of the american people. that's what happened in the 2008 bailouts, they bailed out the banks and the banks turned around and gave each other bonuses. i was attorney general, i brought actions against aig, i

brought actions against banks like the bank of america, who took taxpayer money and then gave themselves a raise. don't give corporations money so they can then lay off workers in their restructuring to get lean and then the american taxpayers are going to have to pay for the people who are laid off. i'm afraid if this isn't raised sooner rather than later, that's exactly-- >> all right, we're going to continue monitoring the governor here. i thought he was going to talk about what's happening in new york nursing homes, among the things they're strategyizing about, and i apologize for being unable to get to the assemblyman. if you have any hint of the virus you're not welcome in any of the senior centers where there's always a risk of it spreading. and that's the cases, they account for half the cases we've seen in new york, i think a third in new jersey.

don't hold me to that, i seem to remember the numbers. i could be off. they want to mitigate that making sure there's no threat that we could have sort after viral contagion in the senior centers here. how they go about that is anyone's guess and how you police that because someone might not be evidencing anything from the virus and all of a sudden, once in there, they have it, it spreads quickly and then you know, you're back in the deep issues with that. so we're monitoring the governor's plan to slowly reopen the state. this will be more like a june event at the earliest for new york city and the metropolitan area, but for upstate new york and those in the construction, manufacturing industry, something that will begin sooner rather than later and beaches as soon as memorial day or right after memorial day, much like new jersey, much like delaware. we'll have more on this.

>> all right. does this entire race, the presidential race, sort of gets lost in the shuffle here with the covid-19, really depend on the coronavirus itself? in other words, forget about whether we have the conventions in person or what have you. will the ultimate vote decide on how this president deals with this crisis and the mainstream media is not conveying that and suffers for it as a result. but he is doing a great job. this was the backdrop of ongoing issues with this, 88,000 deaths, the president's people like to say it could be a lot worse had he not done what he's already done. not knowing that for sure, but an expert on all things

political, the former clinton advisor and best selling author. mark, is it fair to say that this virus and how the president's handling it will be the decider one way or the other, in november? >> oh, i definitely believe that. i think we've seen that when we ask voters, what's the most important issue for months and months, it's been health care, immigration, immigration, health care. today it's coronavirus and the economy. those are the two big issues and that's what's going to decide this presidential race. i often say now, it's not trump v biden, it's trump v trump, how well does trump do really determines the outcome of this race. neil: you know, i'm not going to take political sides, but when i hear the president, i know where he's coming from, he feels the media doesn't give him a good shot at everything, everything he does is bad, but to say we're doing a great job and then with

that back drop of deaths and cases, it just looks emotionally detached sometimes and i'm wondering if that comes back to bite him, especially, god forbid, there's a dramatic up-tick in cases. but i always think of the families affected, 88,000 plus deaths, it could be over 110, 120, no way of nothing. i guess you could say it could have been in the millions had i not done what i had done. i guess there's no way to prove it. does that hurt his message? >> well, it's interesting, in the harvard harris poll that i do every month, the president's approval rating had been continuing slightly up month after month for 11 months and i think it set back this month two points from 49 to 47, still not a big change, but his coronavirus satisfaction which was at 51 went down to 46 and i think actually, you know, from the chlorox and stopping the

briefings, whether he did well or poor on any given day, america needs leadership, and a third of the polls say things are going to get better, a third says they're going to get worse and a third say they stay the same. people don't know what's going on right now. >> you mentioned, but i'm curious, there are disparate polls all over the map. one has joe biden leading across the country, general election in the popular vote. in the battle ground states collectively donald trump doing very, very well. do you think it's possible we could be looking at an election, the popular vote one way and the electoral vote the other way? >> quite definitely. i think the national polls show biden ahead, but i don't put a lot of stock in that because i don't think the race is joined. they haven't actually gone toe

to toe with each other on issues, so, but biden's unquestionably ahead in these national polls, but in this battle ground states, trump's base is holding quite strong. he's got a large enthusiastic base and i think you had representative garcia or elect garcia on and that election in california, i think, really shows that democrats as a party have to be careful about being too far to the left, that there is a lot of rebound from that. neil: yeah, and no one should be popping any champagne corks right now. mark, thank you very, very much. be well, be healthy, more to the point. >> thank you. neil: we mentioned earlier about these governors who are now resistant to really opening up their states with abandon here. that's caused some frustration in new york and in new jersey. kyle newell is the owner of a gym and he's kind of--

from the lock down restrictions remain in place. kyle, what are you doing in the face of that? have you reopened? what are you doing now that could potentially defy governor murphy's orders? >> hi, neil, thanks for having me. we're opening one of our gyms on monday the 18th with all protocols in place for sanitation. sanitizing, that's what we'll be doing this monday. neil: so, has anyone talked to you or advised you, hey, that's a no-no, that could get you in trouble? >> yes, i've had a lot of people say, hey, they could potentially take your business license, they could fine you, put you in jail, but i believe what i'm doing is right and i believe in standing up for what i believe in. and i'm doing this for my family. so you know, i'll face the consequences as they come to me. neil: obviously it's possible new jersey's governor could be listening and watching you right now.

if you could talk directly to him, what would you say? >> i would ask that governor murphy trust us. new jers new jerseyions are some of the toughest people in the world and the small businesses out there and entrepreneurs are the most resourceful people on the face of the planet, you've got to trust we can do this safely and responsibly and move forward. people crave normalcy and we've got to give that back to them. neil: one of the things you're doing, something the governors, all the governors advocated, obviously, have distancing rules in effect and i'm sure you would require masks. so, how would you explain to the governor or anyone else that you are doing this safely? >> i would explain that we have-- we have a 6,000 square foot gym in hillsboro, and we have the spacing, we have the protocols. and with all due respect to the governor, there's zero evidence

that what we're doing would endanger lives. neil: all right. well, if he's watching, i'm sure he'll be very interested to see how monday goes for you, but again, he could telegraph some openings himself. he's already planned to open the beaches, so maybe hope springs eternal, kyle. i know you're trying very, very hard. >> thanks, neil. neil: thank you. by the way, we've reached out to governor murphy a number of times. it could be my cologne, but eventually i think we'll have him on, but it is what it is. so again, new jersey, new york, one of the latest states to open up. of course the problems in illinois we told you about and exasperation of business owners who say if we don't do something and soon we might never open ever. all right. we're looking at seaside heights at the boardwalk and everything else. the beaches will be open for memorial day. so far right now, nothing else will be.

so far. that will do it. leland is coming up, we have kristin coming up. fox news continues. how they gonna pay for this? they will, but with accident forgiveness allstate won't raise your rates just because of an accident. cut! is that good? no you were talking about allstate and... i just... when i... accident forgiveness from allstate. click or call for a quote today.

>> a state department source now telling fox news that mike pompeo recommended that president trump fire inspector general of the state department, steven linick. with that welcome to headquarters, i'm leland vittert. kristin, the plot is thickening here. kristin: i'm kristin fisher. there was an open investigation into mike pompeo. david spunt has more on why the president decided to do this now. >> hi, kristin and leland. good afternoon to you both.