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hair loss, i think he's been on it for three and a half years. >> greg: suddenly everybody is a doctor. apparently all of those dopes no better than the white house and the people who prescribed the drug. they are acting like trump is ingesting peyote in a year. here's the story, trump is taking drug and he has shared the info with you. the politicians would never do that, that's why they were shocked. trump shares. they hide. how dare trump ask his white house doctor about our tried-and-true medication that's currently being used off label by other doctors? how dare he make an informed decision as a patient after a second of science, the medical opinion and risk ratio. if you believe trump is wrong, show us your cost-benefit calculations or shut up. of course the media won't, because they are smarter than you and trump is a symbol of

view, a bumpkin. stay home. it's only the morally superior media who get to work and also know all that secret info about hot stocks and real estate and medications. they get the courtside ticket and the best table and then they give you the lectures. the media always has the inside scoop. they are just mad trump shared it with you. it's funny, the media condemns user prescribed drug during a pandemic with a are fine with way weirder stuff. you would think an industry that injects poison into their faces would sit this one out. and they never let you, joe schmo, tell them they can't smooth out their wrinkles with a toxin. they fight you t to the death or the balding drugs, diet pills, adderall, performance enhancers. they can have it all. inject your forehead if you must but america will save lives while you literally save face.

jesse, i don't think the media understands that this is a risk management decision. if you think trump is wrong, you have to convince us it's a bad risk. where he just says it's a line of defense. >> jesse: greg, went to the liberal media get so uptight about drugs all of a sudden. these people push medical marijuana on the entire country. it is like silicon valley's micro-dosing. and if you're a rich democrat and you get cancer, you can fly to germany for an experimental treatment. are you kidding me? i would love to see what some of these people hating on trump right now have their doctors prescribing them. little blue pills? botox, as you said. i mean, what else? diet pills? you name it. i am sure the list is very long. i thought we weren't supposed to

get in the middle of a doctor-patient relationship, right? that was the whole point. these people are pro-choice, right? your body, your decision? that's what it's supposed to mean. these same people are going to whole foods, getting these healing crystals. they are rubbing cvd oil all over their foreheads. it's like their juice cleanses and they are worried about fda approval? who really you are worried about fda approval? and meanwhile, this is approved by the fda under emergency circumstances under the close supervision of medical professionals. this is what this is. what do you have, hillary hacking up a long, fainting all over manhattan? joe biden can barely speak he doesn't know what day it is. barack obama smokes half a pack while he's on the golf course. trump does nothing. no drugs, no alcohol, nothing. he's in perfect health.

that is a scandal? you see what's going on? healthy trump is a scandal. so chuck schumer comes out and says trump taking a pill to ward off the virus is reckless. that's reckless, but he doesn't say anything about cuomo putting the virus in nursing homes. that's how messed up this always. >> greg: juan, there is ongoing studies. there is one out of china that doesn't look promising. there is a couple out of france they do. there is one in detroit, one in minnesota involving health care workers. it seems to me it's all about the timing of, when you look at the patients. if a patient is at death's door, you can't tell if the drug is causing side effects or they are at death's door. likewise, since people tend to heal 99% of the time, they can't tell if the drug is helping at all. this is something where even the medical establishment, not just fox news, but the medical establishments are having internal debates which i think it's absolutely healthy. you should be able to make it

your own decision based on your risk assessment. does that make sense at all? >> juan: well, i just think it's wrong the way that you framed it, greg. i think that the real issue here is president trump can convince the physician. he is the president. but he is a public leader. he's a person with a tremendous pulpit in terms of american li life. all of a sudden, he is saying i am taking this drug. and if you do, what you recommended, cost-benefit analysis, it's all risk, no benefits. why do i say that? guess what. that is exactly what the fda set on april 24 here. it said that they were worried about the side effects and there was no proven benefit from taking this drug. the veterans administration. >> greg: that was discredited.

discredited. you bring up the va, juan. you bring up the va. let's hear from the head of the va. exactly what you just said, let's show that tape. it's an important point that juan brought up. >> i want to clear up something that the media has not reported accurately. that was not a va study. researchers took va numbers and they did not clinically review them. they were not peer-reviewed. they did not even look at what the president just mentioned, the various comorbidities that the patients were referenced in that study had. department of defense and va have been using it for 65 years on -- on any given day, va uses 42,000 doses of this drug. >> greg: it's amazing. dana, i'm still waiting to see the statistics. >> juan: hold on, hold on. i want to finish my points. >> greg: you just got blown

out of the water! >> juan: what are you talking about? are you saying because they got dragged into the principal's office and they had to put on a dog and pony show for the president. >> greg: your mind reading. you don't know what the -- >> juan: the fda, i tell you what. why don't you go to the library and read what the fda said? >> greg: i don't have to. i read all the studies. i don't have to. >> juan: this is from the same guy that was telling people go ahead, put disinfectants in your body. >> greg: who said that? oh, wait. that's another lie. save that life for later. >> judge jeanine: you never said that. >> greg: all right, judge. i am still wondering where the statistics are. >> judge jeanine: do you know how many people were on the front lines, using hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic to protect them. if the president, it's one

thing, he's transparent. he came out and set it. the national institute of health wouldn't be doing the study on this if there weren't any reasons to do a study on it. it's already an fda approved drug and the truth is that there are many people who are on it who are using it to protect themselves. if it weren't hydroxychloroquine, if the president said "i'm on aspirin," then aspirin would be the number one hated medication in the world. cut the crap. stop making medicine political. the doctor has the sense. he has had a good heart and good longs, then let him take it. it's none of your business. >> greg: this idea that somehow he's forcing the white house doctor to give him drugs. if you're a white house doctor, i don't think you can be forced to do that. >> dana: no and especially because you saw, his own credibility is on the line.

i'm sure -- i'm not going to try to turn myself into webmd. i don't know much about medici medicine. i know that google is sometimes a doctor's biggest enemy, as people look up all the possible cures for anything that ails them and goes to the doctor and says how about this and how about that? here's what i think. if you think you would benefit from this and your doctor agrees, that's between you two. i don't want to know about it. i can't get spun up about this. i don't understand why it's political at all. and i do think, however, when chuck schumer says that this is a distraction for the president, the big distraction is that nobody is even talking about the $3 trillion bill that the house democrats barely passed last friday which politically and policy wise is atrocious. there is much bigger things to be talking about and there's a lot of people in a lot of dire

straits healthwise and for the economy, i know we are going to talk about those the rest of the hour. i just cannot get spun up about this one. >> greg: i agree, lately but what ticks me off is they never talk about the actual drug itself and its combination with zinc. they keep saying it's unproven and is dangerous but i want the statistics of the death rate. show me that. coming up, the democrats aren't in touch in their quest to impeach trump. i misread that but i don't care. a key russia hoax document has been declassified.

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♪ >> jesse: the democrats aren't letting go of impeachment even

while a pandemic is going on. they are still trying to get their hands on redacted grand jury material from the mueller probe. here is donald trump sounding off earlier. >> nobody has abused by fisa like the president of the united states. they were crooked, bad people, they broke the law. they broke the law. what they did to general flynn should never happen. what they've done to the presidency and what they've done to this country can never be allowed to happen again to our country. >> jesse: and we've got our hands on a fully declassified susan rice email from january 2017 describing an oval office meeting about the russia investigation. it shows the obama administration have a laser focus on mike flynn and former fbi director james comey even suggested sensitive information on russia not be shared with flynn. all right, judge jeanine. this never stops. what do you think is going on now? >> judge jeanine: well, you

know what i think is fascinating, jesse, is that the email that was written by susan rice on the day that the president was being sworn in is nothing more than a self-serving statement which is generally not allowed in the courtroom if you're the defendant. but it also to me, as a former prosecutor, it's an admission, consciousness of guilt. building a defense for barack obama. when in fact it's like the police come to your house and you say i didn't shoot my wife but she's upstairs and she's dead of a good shot wound. why are you even phrasing it like that -- of a gunshot when you read what they say, she says the president is not initiating or instructing anything and saying it that we t entertain or share information

possibly about russia with the trump administration. it's basically saying that obama said consider not giving this information to trump. she could only say it more clearly if she left out one wo word. and by the democrats trying to get the grand jury testimony of the mueller investigation, first of all, think of the fact that this was the most anti-trump organization investigation going and secondly there's nothing else in there. they found there was no collusion. it's all just building up to getting trump out of office. >> jesse: dana, what do you think? >> dana: i think impeachment 2.0 is actually going to be impeachment infinity because as long as president trump is in office, the democrats will say they are trying to impeach him or looking into impeachment. basically having their rear ends handed to them in january on the boat, they still continue to pursue it and partly that's

because the left wing will demand that. so they are trying to fulfill that demand. the grand jury testimony, i had trey gowdy on "the daily briefing" today and he made a great point and i'm sure the judge would agree. grand jury testimony secret for a reason because prosecutors take the grand jury testimony and they indict or they don't. there is no middle ground. you don't get to go in and look at grand jury testimony just because you are curious and because you want to do something political. i do think that lindsey graham's hearing that he's planning to hold on the senate side will probably get a lot more answers than anything else, then these declassified emails. there's a lot more information no and they even had in january when they were trying to impeach him in the senate. >> jesse: that grandma investigation can't come soon enough. impeachment infinity, that sounds like a nice line. >> greg: it reminds me, i just lost track of all the "star wars" sequels. after the second one, i just

stopped. the democrats would rather beat trump then a virus. think about this. you have an election in six months. god knows what's going to happen before then so why impeachment? i think it's because they actually fear good news. they know that possibly the next phase will be incredible for america as we get back to work. there's going to be an unbridled sense of optimism and hope and that's going to help trump because he's the king of optimism and they can't have that. they need to combat good news with this impeachment which is nothing but a smear and it exposes their naked priorities. >> jesse: what kind of naked priorities do you have, mr. williams? >> juan: i believe in the constitution and the founding fathers and that congress is an equal branch of government with every right to request what they

need in terms of oversight and that if there is a conflict, we have the judiciary to settle the issue. in this case, what we know is that the u.s. court of appeals ruled in march, jesse, that congress has the right to see the full report and that what we know now is that in fact it is trump's justice department that has redacted the mueller report, won't let people see it apparently out of fear that it will reveal obstruction in terms of the roger stone case, in case of the michael flynn case. that's why they are fighting it. >> jesse: they are legally obligated to reject it. >> juan: no, they're not. it's the congress of the united states that has the legal right to this information. i guess people want to cover up for the president no matter wh what. >> judge jeanine: that's absolutely not the case. not at all. >> jesse: we've got to go.

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>> leads it incompetence? corruption? trump was out there tweeting again this morning. i call him president tweety. >> judge jeanine: what we have is a former vice president who is bringing in barack obama, and barack obama is more than willing out to get involved in the trump campaign and going after donald trump which is kind of interesting. people say did obama, you know, he wants to protect his vice president. the truth is that barack obama also blamed george bush before him and now he wants to blame trump after him. what do you think about that plan? >> jesse: biden needs all the help he can get. just start with barack obama. the line is long. and he has canadian geese on the property, judge?

oh what an open borders radical lists guy is. he will just let anybody in. donald trump only has american geese on his property and that's why joe biden will never be president. he just doesn't get it. he doesn't have a very smart campaign staff. close the doors to the sunroom, shoe the geese away, get the secret service agent out of the shot to shot to come off with the phones on silence. they can't even do a live shot, how are they going to do an election? they are going to forget the balloons. he's just reading things his consultants wrote for him. it's not the nickname he came up with. he just reads the prompter. >> judge jeanine: let's talk about that. what do you think of the nickname. greg, to you? >> greg: let's be grateful that he isn't going out for a swim. his nickname. i just shows you how hard it is to come up with a good nickname. a nickname that really sticks is

one that reveals something visual and biden just tells you what you already know. we know he tweets. but things like, you know all the nicknames that trump came up with, they all work because they kind of stuck. but it is just getting kind of sad because even when he is stowed away in his underground basement like a faberge egg, he still can't get it right. at any moment they open the door just a little is a mistake. i read one of his tweets earlier. it was "we need a president who believes in science." a robot could have written that. probably dead. >> judge jeanine: and you know what, dana, i will leave it to you on the fact that in some states, whether you believe polls. joe biden is leading. still in the bunker. saying things anyone could write for him and he is leading. >> dana: well, in some places, yeah. the funny thing about the blunders is in some ways i

wonder if things like that endear him to people. i mean, we are all here. the train annoys us here on the show. people are always trying to do that. i saw this woman the other day trying to stay out of her husbands zoom shot and she was crawling along the floor but everybody could see her the entire time. i think some of these things are just going to be something that biden has to roll with but i will say this. he should not be goaded by former obama staffers who are telling him he needs to be more digital and more hip. if it doesn't come naturally, it's not going to work. if he is leading without doing well digitally, then he should stay true to himself rather than having these people tell him that he needs to change. i think the reason he was able to win back the nomination is because he was being himself. all the flaws and warts and all. if he's himself, maybe he can

try to pull it off. >> judge jeanine: that's interesting. gretchen whitmer has just announced that she did actually have conversations with the biden campaign as a vice presidential candidate. do you think her fortunes have changed since everything has gone on in michigan and how she handled herself? >> juan: yeah, her numbers are up, judge. i guess she is more credible and she is in a swing state. let me say i am sort of amazed that you guys are so taken by the sound of geese. this is a small ball. is this that you've got to put down joe biden? dana has trains and biden has geese. anybody who's doing zoom conferences or telework these days from home, everybody knows it's unpredictable. there will be interruptions. the child will cry. i don't see that this is a big deal but i see you guys are really scraping to go after joe biden. i guess he must be winning somewhere. >> greg: the thing is, the

sexual assault didn't work out. right? >> juan: we could call stormy. >> greg: the media didn't want to cover that! >> judge jeanine: next up, trump issuing his biggest warning yet to the world health organization. stay with "the five" for more.

♪ >> juan: president trump once again going after the world health organization, this time over its handling of the pandemic. trump accusing the organization of being biased in favor of china. he is also threatening to cut off funding permanently to the

w.h.o. if changes are not made in 30 days. here is the president earlier today. >> basically they have to clean up their act. they have to do a better job. they have to be much more fair to other countries, including the united states, where we are not going to be involved with them anymore. we will do it a separate way. >> juan: dana, i wanted to ask you, as long as there is no train in the background, what happens if there is another unknown pathogen and i think that's likely at some point, is it a good idea for the united states to not be a player in the world health organization? >> dana: i think the president is doing something that he's done before, like he did with nato, which is using america's incredible and extensive influence to foreign exchange at an organization in order to have the credibility of the united states be able to be there to help you. i think that we all know that it's important for us to have public health information in a way that we can share it. but obviously there was

something extremely wrong that happened between the w.h.o. and china's communication and their communication with the world. i think getting to the bottom of that is number one and i don't think the president is saying that you will never get american support again. he is saying you have 30 days to come up with some substantial changes and then we will continue to be a part of it. if you don't want to do that, that's fine. we will walk away and try something else. i think he's being smart and figuring out a way to leverage the united states. as for china, recently i think it was yesterday said that they would donate $2 billion to the efforts to help developing nations around the world. $2 billion. that is 1/1000 of what we've already spent in our own country to deal with coronavirus. that is like chump change, china. so if you want to have influence, you're going to have to pony up a lot more than that, starting with opening up your labs and whatever else you have come other information, to get information to people in the united states and around the

world. because we do have to protect ourselves from this. we know it will happen again. history does repeat itself. it happened 100 years ago. we have to be prepared for the future. >> juan: judge pirro, i think dana's right, the president may be making a strategic move but it's also a political move in the sense that i think he's pointing a finger at china five pointing at the w.h.o. so politically it has power, but in terms of policy, do you think it's a good move? to give china the leadership position at the w.h.o.? >> judge jeanine: i think that is a brilliant move. i think it's time that the w.h.o. cleaned up its act. i think 316,000 dead people around the world is reason enough for at least 316,000 reasons to pull american money out of an organization that could have helped us and could have prevented many of these deaths.

that's make no mistake. this organization said there was no human to human transmission. this organization was being lauded or lauded china for instances where they had travel restrictions within their own country. that's crazy. dana is right. we have to leverage this likely leverage nato. you are not going to take our money, put not only the united states with the world at risk, it's time that if there is money, there is truth and transparency behind it. what taiwan came out and said, there was human to human transmission and china said absolutely not. we should have listened to them, and the president did. so this is the way he handled it. >> juan: jesse, what happens if the next pandemic comes out of africa or latin america? who gives the united states the data, advice on how to deal with it if it hits our shores?

>> jesse: he said that he wants to reform it and if they're not going to be reformed, we will form a new organization. you know that, juan. this is what i don't like, how the media frames it. i read "the new york times" today in "the new york times" says trump is doing this to deflect blame. so see what they are doing? republicans are always deflecting blame. why is that? because the media is always blaming republicans for everything, right? so whenever a republican does anything that doesn't have anything to do with the thing they are being blamed for at that very moment, they are deflecting blame. so barack obama can go after fox. he can go after putin. he can go after islamaphobia. he is never -- she's never deflecting blame. only republicans do that. they do that with the word distraction. so trump is distracting from the pandemic by going after the

w.h.o. no, actually the media wants everybody to focus on one thing and trump is just holding multiple people accountable. that's the game they play. >> juan: ic. greg, you know, it seems to me the center for disease control, the cdc, has been asking for more money. so you think they want a more robust international presence for themselves. do you think maybe if we take money away from the w.h.o. he would give it to the cdc? >> greg: i don't know, may be. the cdc. everybody was wrong. i think part of the coming battle is going to be the experts who told us what was supposed to be in our best interest and then the rest of the world found out they weren't telling the truth. i agree with everything that's been said about nato and the world health organization. america first, i was critical and though i realize that it has some benefits. if you believe the america first way, when somebody screws with you, you have a president that

goes out there and settles the score. so he's going to settle the score with the w.h.o. the way he settled the score with nato and he's probably going to have to settle the score with china. even though it was their fault when the virus came out, they covered it up. we score. >> juan: all right. the fastest seven is next, including the tiger king's new quest. he is on a quest for a pardon from president trump. that's next for you right here on "the five." i am totally blind. and non-24 can throw my days and nights out of sync, keeping me from the things i love to do. talk to your doctor, and call 844-214-2424.

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♪ >> dana: welcome back, in time for the fastest seven. first up, joe exotic captured the nation's attention with few exceptions with the hit series on netflix called "tiger king." watch. >> good looking, loves to party and have fun. >> dana: now his legal team is heading to washington, d.c., and he's hoping to ask president trump for a pardon. joe was serving a 22 year prison

sentence over a murder-for-hire plot and animal abuse related crimes. greg, let me start with you. what do you think? >> greg: it's a smart move. he has this bus he's driving around. it's a smart move because in the trump euro, anything can happen. trump will entertain any question. if -- remember my idea about a space escalator. i have sent back to trump. also working on getting a preemptive pardon for him because we know he's going to do something awful in the next ten years. >> dana: what do you think, jesse? joe exotic taking his bus around. pretty good publicity. >> jesse: i seen the show but i heard he got a raw deal. can you imagine an american being prosecuted for something they didn't do. where have i heard that before?

i can see that the media wants this guy pardoned, and then the minute trump pardons him, they are going to say donald trump pardons reality show host in the middle of a pandemic. they will flip on a dime. >> dana: juan, what do you think about this? >> juan: i guess i'm the only one who watched this show, i thought it was a pretty amazing show. i've got to tell you something. most americans are not very sympathetic to people who abuse and kill animals. i would be careful of that one. >> dana: all right. the judge and i didn't was watc. next up, a company inventing a special mode control mouth mask that lets people eat food without taking it off. judge jeanine, what do you thi

think. >> judge jeanine: i was trying to figure it out. they state that you use a remote. you know what's great about this pandemic, always wearing a mask. you never wear makeup unless you're on television. i am thinking if i go out to dinner with this mask, doesn't mean i still have to put lipstick on? what if somebody else has the remote? is it stupid or what? >> dana: a lot of things we've got to think about. i don't know, jesse, do you like the ingenuity? >> jesse: think we need it. i think you restaurant where they have bumper tables and you don't need a mask because you're 6 feet apart and you've got the bumper table. >> dana: all right. greg, we've been talking about innovation. these people are thinking of things. >> greg: what is it really for? what is it really for? when you're really attracted to somebody who might have a cold sore.

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only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ >> it's one more thing. i've got a great one. this was a birthday wish list, can we show the list up here while we go through it, it's pretty amazing. a boston market gift card, interesting, barnes & noble gift card, he likes to read, elephant peanuts, but also he has greg gutfeld self-help book. awesome kid. i also like his notes, no other toys necessary. i already have enough toys, and remember, this is my dream list.

please remember to coordinate so i don't get two of the same things, but that's my favorite fan, ryan. and you can preorder my book which she is right is a self-help book in which i change your life for the better. you can go to my web site and order this book. he will be a changed person, even you, juan, you will change. >> if he gets to have your books, you can always give one to one of his friends. >> he should buy two. >> i don't have a cute little dog video today, i'll get back to business tomorrow. i want to bring something we know that 3 36 million americans have filed for unemployment.

a widowed mother of three. she was furloughed from her waitressing job in new jersey and has been stuck in limbo trying to file for unemployment since mid-march. >> right now, it is like you are at the mercy of a computer system, and there's just no way of getting through to anyone. the computer is all we have, and if it's not getting back to you, there's nothing i can do. >> i understand a lot of systems were overwhelmed at first but we are ten weeks past when we first saw people start to apply for unemployment. this nonprofit we talked to said over 60 million americans are still waiting to hear back. i hope the governors all put a lot more focus on this because these people really need their help. >> good point. jesse? >> you've got some competition. what have we got here? american crusade, pete hegseth,

and this cover looks like it is like a romance novel at a checkout line, look at that. and he's got the word crusade in the title, how pete hegseth is that? hannity has endorsed it, mark live in, even the president has endorsed it. this is a hot read for the summer even though you're not allowed to go to the beach, just read it during quarantine, and you're going to love it. pete hegseth, everybody, american crusade. >> all right, top that! >> all right, i'm going to say take me out to the ball game and the socially distant world of america's backyards. take a look, folks. that is the mount pleasant wildcats of westchester new york, the little league sixth-graders and their parents put this video together, notice the toilet paper. they want to urge people to

remain at home and socially distance. their goal is to lower coronavirus infections so they can get together later this summer and play some games. last year, these guys won the tournament for the greater hudson valley little league scheduled to play this year at cooperstown, but the summer tournament has been canceled. but there's no canceling the wildcats winning spirit. i'm impressed, go wildcats. >> i love that because it's westchester county. everyone knows or maybe doesn't know, but i am a dog lover, and i had put a picture of a dog from the carolina poodle rescue which is where i got my last, you're looking now not at the arms dealer but underwent surgery, we raise some money for him, he has a problem with his liver, but the problem was, and

you can see right there, he is home recovering from surgery but the problem is he needs even more surgery after bringing in some specialist to take care of them and i want to thank all those people who went on my facebook and contributed. we still have money left, and i'll let you know. >> bret baier is up next. >> bret: welcome, breaking tonight for my national security advisor michael flynn is asking an appeals court to force a judge to dismiss criminal charges against him. it's the latest volley in the fight over general flynn's prosecution confession and ultimately his future. also tonight, the release of a newly declassified email about the rash of broke from the former and for the obama administration official said light on an oval office meeting