>> okay, set your dvr is tomorrow morning, 6:00 a.m. we will see you then, have a great day and thanks for watching. ♪ >> sandra: fox news alert, president trump heading to michigan today to visit a ventilator production facility amid new progress on the vaccine front. but the administration saying first drugs this could be as early as october. a good morning, on sandra smith. >> ed: good morning to you, i am ed henry. a potential coronavirus vaccine that was developed by sanford and oxford university and the call to purchase a major milestone for operation warp speed. >> sandra: meanwhile the president heading to michigan a bit later today amid an escalating feud with governor gretchen whitmer.

the president now threatening to withholding funding from her estate over its plan to send absentee ballot applications to all registered voters. >> president trump: you have to go and vote. and people have to check you will, they have to see that it's you. when you get thousands of ballots and they put them in a bag, who knows where they come from? it's so obvious. frankly they should have voter i.d., that's what they should have. if you know what the country wants, the country wants voter i.d. otherwise it will be subject to tremendous illegality and fraud. >> ed: also getting a lot of attention, "the new york post" taking on the citywide lockdown saying "it ain't needs to end now" maria bartiromo is here with a look at the fight to reopen the nation. >> sandra: but we begin with gillian turner who is live at the white house this morning. >> good morning to you both. president trump is headed to

michigan today where thousands of americans in mid-michigan are under very strict evacuation orders following the collapse of two dams that resulted from heavy intense flooding earlier this week. it is a stark reminder that fema and the homeland security department are now battling hurricane season and major weather disruptions even as coronavirus continues to rage across the united states. >> president trump: were going to help michigan. michigan is a great state. i got tremendous business to go to michigan. michigan is one of the reasons i ran. >> but the trip is not without controversy. yesterday the president blasted plans to extend of mail in voting in the state and threaten to withhold funding. he tweeted "michigan sons absentee ballot applications to 7.7 million people have primaries and the general election. this was done illegally and without authorization by a rogue secretary of state. i will ask michigan if they want

to go down this voter fraud pa path. michigan secretary of state push back hard last night. >> but we also know it is dangerous to our democracy is misinformation. and that's really what we are trying to cut through today as we have responded to clarify the president's misinformation about how elections work in michigan. >> at the department of health and human services and astrazeneca are collaborating to make available at least 300 million doses now other coronavirus vaccine that's called a zd 1222. with the first doses of delivering potentially october 2020. president trump will visit a ford plant in michigan today that's been repurposed to produce ventilators for americans hit hard by the coronavirus. we don't think he will stop by mid-michigan areas affected by the a severe flooding, we think

as of now he will probably just fly over those areas. >> sandra: gillian turner kicking things off for us this morning. >> ed: as we mentioned, growing calls for new york city particularly to lift its lockdown and to get back to business. critics are saying it's long past time to get going. today's new york post covers saying the shutdown needs to end an end now. the governor andrew cuomo's is a reopening will responsibly. >> if employees are responsible, if individuals are responsible, then you will see the infection rates stay low. if people get arrogant, if people get cocky, if people get casual, if people become undisciplined, you will see that infection rate go up. it's that simple. >> ed: the pandemic has taken huge toll on the city, nearly 16,000 lives lost.

tax revenue expected to drop by nearly 5% this year and double that next year. subway ridership is down 90%. here to talk about all of it is the host of mornings with maria and a sunday morning futures. good morning bernie mcmurray. you are pivoting off of ap's', my city is starving writes david marcus of "the federalist" and you can see growing concerns about how this is impacting the economy. >> this has been such a severe hit to so many people who spend their lives building businesses. you are talking about small businesses, the barbershop, nail salon, restaurants and services, all services in new york shut down and this is a serious economic hit. i spoke with mayor de blasio who said new york city needs $7.4 billion just to make it whole to come back from all of this and what makes matters even worse and why you see that cover on "the new york post" today is because all of the worry and at

the hyped up negativity really did not pin out. remember for so many weeks we talked about the hospital system about to break down, ventilators were in massive need? well in fact there were enough ventilators and new york and the country as a whole is sending ventilators to other countries, that's how we have enough ventilators. people are saying we were told that this was going to be really bad so we did everything we were supposed to do and we did flatten the curve, we are seeing an improvement and yet we don't see the kind of stark warnings playing out that we were told about initially. in the meantime, i've lost my business and this is what you're hearing increasingly from small business owners in new york. >> ed: and david marcus writing as you said, everything is played out, we were told the hospitals will be overrun and it didn't happen. return to the javits center into a hospital and we didn't need it. we brought in the giant navy ship, the comfort, didn't really use it. we were told we were moments away from running out of

ventilators and it didn't happen. bottom line, he thinks that barbershops and cafes responsibly should just opening up on their own with social distancing and get this economy going. your thoughts? >> that's right. the president also says this is political. i spoke with him last week and he said my critics would be like to be shut down but the fact is, this business and the economy needs to open up in order for us to see some of these businesses actually survive. many businesses, the restaurants et cetera, they live on cash flow. the more likely it is that they will not be able to get back to where they were and they will actually have to declare bankruptcy. >> ed: it's a sad situation indeed, maria bartiromo, we appreciate you coming on. >> sandra: the senate homeland security committee moving forward now with its investigation of joe biden's son, hunter. despite objections from democrats and a party line vote,

the committee is authorizing a subpoena for documents related to hunter biden's consulting work in the ukraine. let's bring in ken starr, former independent counsel and fox news contributor. great to have you here this morning. we are ultimately do you believe republicans will get with this? >> well, we don't know. what we do know is the chairman ron johnson, really america is open for business again other than new york and he is now open for business again. this is actually a continuation, a long-running investigation so we've been on hold. and all this represents is, ukraine is back. but ukraine never really went away. so i view this as accountability, as senator johnson has said come on fox news. let's just get the facts and there is no there there, but why all the protesting? why don't we just get these documents in good order and

analyze them? the final point on this is, what we do know is that this firm, blue star, did make arrangements for burisma which is a corrupt company in the ukraine to have meetings with the justice department and the state department. in washington, d.c., during an election year. let's just find out, maybe they were innocent and maybe they want. >> this is a point that senator ron johnson makes. he said he could have done it quickly and have the documents turned over and moved on but he claims democrats are throwing a hissy fit and their objections quite frankly, he says, i have left him suspicious. he says now it's about getting to the truth. >> because american people need to know the truth. we certainly have uncovered corruption within the obama administration and we will get the documents and we will see what's in the documents. i'm not the one who made a big deal of this, i would have quietly subpoenaed andre tell us

genco and got the documents and moved on. but the democrats are objecting and i think maybe they are protesting too much. >> so is he hitting on something there? he makes the case that it appears we have struck a nerve. >> it would appear that way. you say hunter biden and the democratic side of the aisle goes crazy but even hunter biden serving on the burisma board later said that wasn't an exercise of poor judgment on his part. well, why is that? because burisma was corrupt. now we are talking about bereavement not in the ukraine but activities in washington, d.c., during an election year. this is accountability and this is fact-finding and that's what they should do. this is a continuation of what began, literally, months ago. so it's a restart.

>> sandra: to that point when you see the democrats making objections to this, they say it undermines national security and to that, you say what? >> that's nonsense. how can it affect anything other than we will know what happened to 2016, why did hunter biden go on that board? it's a very important question. highly important because he was of course acting without all that many credentials. we've talked about that before. now what we are talking about specifically -- so let's just be very direct. theresa may in washington and is trying to use its influence in washington, d.c. we deserve to know that. we deserve to know and senator johnson and i, he's long been a friend of the ukraine and he wants to see his strong u.s. and ukraine relationships and i think if anything this buttresses our relationship with

president zelensky and the new reform to government and the ukraine. so don't be afraid of the truth democrats, let's just see what the facts are. >> sandra: final thoughts more broadly speaking, since this is a first time we've had a chat with you in a while. on president trump and republicans making the case more broadly that the trump campaign and at the incoming trump administration was being targeted by the outgoing obama white house with the most recently declassified list of names and turned over documents. what do you have to say on that this morning? >> these are very troubling revelations. the meeting of the white house, why did she write that email on inauguration day, to essentially cover president obama's tracks.

let's go buy the book. you can just see lawyers guiding the formation of that email, written two weeks later, to essentially say that jim comey was expressing these concerns about general flynn. but by the way, and jim comey refused to do what the responsible directive of the fbi would be to do, and they he irrigated power, and why did the transition occur.

why were there investigations going on in the trump transition's? there were so many questions to be answered. >> sandra: great to see you. more on all of this is coming up. senator ron johnson will be joining us, and he chairs the committee that authorizes that subpoena and he will tell us that he's looking for as the panel moves forward with the investigation. senator ron johnson coming up. >> ed: the actress lori locklin moments ago agreed to plead guilty in the college admission scam case, that according to the u.s. attorney's office and reports that the former "full house" star will enter a guilty plea after refusing to admit guilt and the scandal. the couple is scheduled to go on trial in october on charges they paid half a million dollars to

get their daughters into the university of southern california as crew recruits even though neither girl was a rower. they denied paying bribes and said they thought their payments were legitimate donations. breaking news is, lori locklin and her husband now agreeing to plead guilty. >> sandra: we will continue to follow that period of three people injured on one of them critically and a shooting in a shopping mall near phoenix. now my report on the victims and i suspect now in custody. plus, governor ron desantis of florida not mincing words about media coverage of his state's reopening efforts. "the wall street journal"'s that fan manager will joining us live on that, coming up. >> we succeeded and i think that people just don't want to recognize it because it challenges their narrative ♪

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>> sandra: fox news alert, a shooting put a texas military base on lockdown. air stations at corpus christi responding to an active shooter alert shortly after dawn this morning. one security officer is injured, but the shooter has been neutralized. we will have more information on this as soon as it becomes

available. >> ed: democrats mean while blasting the senate investigation into joe biden sonic, hunter biden, and his role on the board of kurt ukrainian gas firm. if there's nothing there, what are they so worried about? senator, good morning to you. so on that point, joe biden is the democratic nominee. what is the investigative purpose that you are pushing here? that shows potential interference by certain actors in the ukraine, and that's a

fairly corrupt oil company. and apparently used with a connection former clintonites to potentially affect our policy and attitude toward burisma. i think american people deserve the truth. there is no clear energy background on all that, but that might just be, that could be improper benefiting, and not saying it's right, but that would be anything improper.

and we will ask the state department, on what basis of the state department, and we will methodically go through the investigation. the democrats are subjected to my first subpoena, when they delayed that vote vote, with those records they don't like why don't just subpoena them from. we are totally focusing on cobit and that's primarily what we are dealing with. they add it to the report and move on.

>> >> we also ground our economy to a halt. how do we get an appropriate safety standard i think quite frankly that's the sort of thing that we should focus on. >> clearly congress can do more than one thing at a time and you've already passed a a several stimulus bills and what not to react to the pandemic but to answer that general charge, that's something that looks partisan in the election year. >> that's something we are primarily focused on his covid-19 and responding to that crisis. asking democrats what they were doing with their partisan impeachment? i think it's flaring up, and

that's the impeachment trial as well. and it's an economic disaster. we are not ignoring that by any stretch of the imagination. >> under 30 seconds but if hunter biden says i'm not taking over these documents, -- this is a lobbying firm, there's these documents that go back to andre teller schinkel. he is not giving a given us anything that hasn't been proven to be true.

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>> ed: fox news alert, a suspect is in custody after a shooting at a shopping mall. the gunman opened fire in the complex is just west of phoenix. william lawilliam la jeunesse i. >> 20-year-old armando hernandez opened fire with an assault style rifle. a witness video shot outside of amc shows what you're looking at now. a former high school friend called hernandez troubled and antigovernment.

a state senator on site tweeted i just witnessed an armed terrorist shoot up westgate and there are victims. moments later there was suspect is roaming through the subjacent work and lot with rifle in hand. >> we were able to locate that suspect in the westgate area. we are ask officers challenge that suspect and were able to safely take that person into custody. >> according to a local tv report, his brother called his mother to say armando is going crazy. she arrived at the mall and broke down in tears when she saw his social media post and identified him as the shooter. in a series of clips on snapchat hernandez says, we will be shooting up westgate, let's get this done. a witness at a basketball court said he was acting strange.

>> when he arrived home he said several hours later that he saw through snapchat that the person involved in the shooting was the same person he saw at the park. >> authority starts the suspect's home and took out several bags of evidence from the garage. they have a presser scheduled for this afternoon. >> a lot of people in your professor who waxed poetically for weeks and weeks about how florida was going to be just like new york. not only do we have a lower death rate, we have a lower death rate. we succeeded and i think that people just don't want to recognize it because it challenges their narrative so they have to try to find a bogeyman. >> sandra: that was florida governor ron desantis. they pointed out dire predictions and, he made a lot

of headlines. standing there next to the vice president touting the data as saying it is clearly challenging the partisan narrative. what did you think? >> i thought governor desantis had a point. there's a lot of partisan narrative's going on here and one that ron desantis is well aware of his he is thought to be aligned with president trump. that part is simple. there's another narrative though that broke out around the coronavirus which is, republican governors whether that's ron desantis or brian kemp in georgia, the republicans were antiscience. it comes from another apocalypse which is climate change. at the idea developed that

anyone who is skeptic about climate change was antiscience. now, we have another apocalypse in the coronavirus and the media has equated total lockdowns with what all science knows. but there's a lot we don't know about the coronavirus and covid and i think ron desantis and some of these other governors might be skeptical about total lockdowns and has shown that we indeed do not know as much as we should about transmission rates. the media really did kind of make new york city which is having a horrible experience, that's me new york kind of the standard for the rest of the country, which it simply is not. >> sandra: pulling no punches and citing data from the white house he said" we have succeeded. possibly as this victory lap a little bit too soon so we see how this all plays out? >> well can we do have to see how it plays out through summer and into the fall. but bear in mind, the reason for

the lockdowns originally was to allow the hospital system to handle it, to prevent it from collapsing and of that by and large has been achieved around the country. i don't think there's any question, they will continue to be coronavirus infections, people we will be admitted to hospitals but it does appear that the hospital system in florida is going to be able to handle the volume of coronavirus cases they received while the rest of the economy gets back to business. >> sandra: we want to get to your piece in "the wall street journal" this morning. your op-ed titled "elon musk's final straw," a nationalization of blue state spending, you talk about her. your words, mind-numbing $3 trillion coronavirus legislation. you say the best way to comprehend that as to draw a straight line from elon musk to the house democratic caucus in washington.

explain? >> well, elon musk famously tweeted last week that gavin newsom, the authorities in california said he could not open his tesla factory up there. and he said that was the last straw. he's trying to compete with other automakers in detroit, and what he meant was that california has just had a cascade of antibusiness rules and regulations over the years as have other blue states. the cost of doing business in california is enormous. as is the cost of doing business in the state of new york, new jersey and illinois. what i'm suggesting here is that nancy pelosi transferred to those states and inside the $3 trillion package there is $1 trillion for the states and localities and it really is obviously intended to bail them out of the spending profligacy that they have engaged in over the last several decades. effectively what she is doing is telling the rest of the united states, you are going to

pay for the way these four blue states have conducted their budgets and their spending, their commitments to public employee unions, welfare without restraint, and you are going to pay for that and if you want federal money you are going to have to become like those blue states. and that's why i'm calling it not a bailout but i bail in and of the rest of the country to the blue state model. >> sandra: fascinating piece. you end it by saying, is all this the final straw? something the voters will have to decide in november. you say it will only happen if president trump on the democratic opposition put that choice before them. dan henning chair, you. >> ed: remember when the president warned we can't let the cure be worse than the disease? hundreds of doctors are warning that the extended lockdown could be putting americans health at risk. the doctor leading that effort

joins us live next hour. plus a 77-year-old michigan barbara could see his shop shut down by that a judge after he defied stay defied stay-at-home orders. that legal battle sparking outrage across the state and across america. pete joins us with his take on that, next. >> i knew no matter what happen i was standing on the side of myself, my creator and you.

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author of the brand-new book "american crusade, our fight to stay free. >> thank you, eddie. i did draw the short straw with you instead of sandra, but i will take it. >> ed: we spent a lot of time together on fox & friends. what's happening right now in states like michigan? >> it is the revolt of the hairdressers, the revolt of the barbers, the revolt of the gym owners and restaurant owners who say, listen. we did our part responsibly to flatten the curve. recent respect the virus and listen to authorities but than two weeks turned into two months and now it's indefinite. now you are telling me, i can't make a livelihood, all under the rubric of if you don't want to go out and you feel unsafe, you don't have to. it's all a choice and it's all

voluntary. for private business owners every job isn't sensual and if they can't open up they can make a living. then the cure becomes worse than the virus. i think you will start to see businesses move collectively, that's the only way to do it. governors are shutting down businesses in michigan and new jersey and in california but if everyone moves that once and there is a reopen movement for this friday, we will see if it gets traction. livelihood is becoming more important and you can do it responsibly, that's a point to. and that would be business owners. >> ed: you just mentioned new jersey, people are struggling not just with physical health but mental health getting out in the open but also going to the gym and relieving stress. this gym owner has now seen his jim shut down. i understand it was for health reasons and there's a back and forth about what's going on but you were there on the ground.

what's going on? >> very innocuous health reaso reasons. i was there. i was wearing a mask out of respect, the only put let 20% and at a time, they sanitized everything every hour, every person who is lifting how to sanitize every piece they touched. way more income it way beyond what i have observed and everyone else has observed in the grocery stores and the liquor stores in the fast food establishments that we've all been to. so common sense is is out the door. it's just about, we will do your bidding and i don't think it last this long. it's untenable. >> ed: is there a pivot point coming out? they put on the front page of one man's plea. it needs to end now.

it's streets are empty. tens of thousands have been plunged into poverty. there are lines miles long in some places. food banks. >> it's sad, it's eerie. i still go into the city for the weekend show and it's absolutely empty. my post subscriber landed on my driveway and my beautiful two year old daughter ran out and gave it to me and i read that piece and at spot on. the center of new york city needs to reopen now. the hospitals were never flooded the way we said they would be and we listen to all the authorities but livelihoods have to move on at some point. we are not just talking about states that are in step two, he's talking about everybody and i think people can make their own choice and be responsible. that reopen has to happen now. >> that empty street, at 6:00 a.m., maybe i will meet you out here. you are just lucky it's not

sandra, she's a better athlete, we use to compete on the weekends. she was a college athlete and could beat both of us. >> i would never take sandra on anand a challenge, ever. so good luck with that. >> sandra: that said, we are on. we are setting up the obstacle course the first day is safe to do so. >> i appreciate you guys. >> sandra: brand-new guidance on guidance on coronavirus contamination. what you need to know about the risk of catching the virus, and the changes that the cdc is making, or objects like groceries and packages.pa it might be some welcome news. ♪

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>> sandra: okay, while some potential relief from millions of americans who are concerned over the spread of the virus as the cdc updates its coronavirus guidelines. the agency is now saying the virus is not easily spread by touching surfaces, objects or animals. here to talk about it is fox news contributor and author of make america healthy again, dr. nicole saphier. dr. safire, great to see you this morning. i saw this change in the cdc guidelines yesterday afternoon and i thought, this will change the way we are talking about the spread of the virus. what is your take away from that and what are your thoughts this morning? >> with knowledge comes power and this is the power we need to move forward for people to feel safe to leave their house. the cdc updated their guidelines telling us something we kind of know, that those earlier in vitro lab studies that showed virus particles could live on inanimate objects for a few

days, and that may be true but when it comes to actual transmissibility of the virus, it's not likely to spread the virus that way so it's great news. people don't have to be afraid to touch everything. that being said we still want to make sure everyone is washing their hands and having that hand hygiene so they aren't putting their fingers in their mouth as much, i think we will be a little more cleanly or needing to move forward, and someone can still be asymptomatic and spreading the virus. when we move forward as we are reopening we just have to remind people that it's just moving into those congregated areas, crowds and that's how you will contract the virus. it's not from your amazon packages are going to the grocery store so much. that being said we can move forward a little bit safer and feel better about that. >> sandra: as you are talking, we have an image of a video playing of the someone washing

their clothes and using those clorox wipes. so many of us go to the grocery store and we take off those clothes and throw them in the washer right away because we've been worried about the spread of. here's the cdc's actual words about this new guidance so everyone can see for themselves. it may be possible that a person can get covid-19 by touching a surface or object that has a virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose or possibly their eyes. this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads but we are still learning more about this virus. many are asking about at home, we come home and wash our phones, change our clothes, we wiped on the boxes that it delivered. do we need to stop doing that, can we stop doing that or should we still suggest it? >> i will tell you early on in march, i was wiping everything down an as well but, when it cos

to protecting herself from the virus, its hand hygiene. you can touch anything that has a virus on it but it's not seeping through your skin. as long as you are not putting her fingers in her mouth or nose or eyes, you are fine. so continue to wash her hands. you don't have to wipe everything down but with that being said you want to keep sanitation up, but you know, phones are one of the dirtiest things that we can touch. and, that's many times a day, and don't touch her face. >> i think we will all learn new habits from this as well. final thoughts on the antibody testing because so many of us wonder if we have it and test positive, and does that mean we would never get symptoms of a contract at early on?

that was research that was done with promising results. final thoughts on this and what we are learning with antibodies? >> we have to be careful drawing conclusions on this, and more studies are needed but this is great news. >> dr. safire, always great to talk to you. >> ed: republicans in the senate been involved with their probe on hunter biden and the ukrainian company burisma. we have kt mcfarland on deck about that. a brand-new hour, coming up. y pd economic package can mean for you. we're more than a financial company.

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this thursday morning, i'm sandra smith. >> you have to think about it these days. >> i'm ed henry, and it's thursday i believe, an accelerated timetable and president's trumps accelerated to fight. working with the drug company astrazeneca. secretary azar saying "getting a vaccine to the public as soon as possible is one of president trump's multifaceted strategies for us safely reopening our economy and getting like back normal." they are developing and manufacturing at promising vaccines long before it is approved. >> very interesting developments on that front. >> good morning's sandra and ed. operation warp speed is

providing $1.2 billion in funding to accelerate the developing of this experimental vaccine and the first of doses could be available as early as october. the vaccine was evolved by researchers at the university of oxford in partnership with astrazeneca and, that provides immune protection against the coronavirus but it is remarkably easy to make and very large quantities. take a listen. >> this is not going to be an expensive vaccine. it will be made for global supply and this will begin with approximately 30,000 volunteers right here in the united states. the department of health and human services is working with astrazeneca to make 300 million

doses available to the u.s. experts said the very earliest, and that would be anywhere from 12-18 months. so if you have at least the initial doses of the vaccine becoming available in october, this would set all-time new records. back to you guys. >> sandra: could change a lot of things. jonathan serrie, thank you. >> our investigation into the things that happen in ukraine date way back to a political article. that shows potential interference by a certain actor in the ukraine, possibly members of the dnc and it just blossomed into uncovering to news reports, the fact that hunter biden got hired by a thoroughly corrupt oil company. >> ed: that was chairman ron johnson authorizing a subpoena in the investigation of hunter biden.

democrats on panel call it a political stunt. joining us now is kt mcfarlan kt mcfarland. among other things, they called it search for truth. >> it's like everything in washington, it's such a snake pit. everything divides on party lines. i think the democrats that we thought we had, why would they not want to have it come out in an open hearing, and to me it's very shortsighted of him because it's going to come out anyway,

and they have an opportunity to make their case. >> ed: ron johnson says he just wants the facts but also you noted there's a campaign that's on and chuck schumer says that's what this is about. >> the republican chairman and this powerful senate committee, there are so many aspects of the response to the ongoing pandemic is prioritizing yet another attempt to smear vice president biden. >> ed: we remember back in the impeachments hearings that it came up, and they warrant a vice president's office there's a problem here and they were ignored.

>> i always wondered about why the senate never called hunter biden to talk about the contracts that he had with ukraine or part of the impeachment, or even the contracts with china. i asked someone close to the whole thing, and they said it, here's the thing. everyone likes joe biden, he's a nice guy and his son hunter had circled with substance abuse and was a fragile frail guy. and the answer was we don't want to bring hunter biden into a position where that might cause them to relapse or have difficulty. so, why is he taking the money? it doesn't pass the smell test. even the state department officials were saying it doesn't pass the smell test. so bring it out in the open, sunlight is always the best disinfectant. what happened, when did happen, and the american people can decide in september.

they want that out there as well, and the supreme court stepped in as well. this grand jury material should not be out there. nancy pelosi is not happy, and that's a long-standing right pursuant to be upheld to the lower court twice. and that's part of a pattern for the administration and hiding the truth for the public, the american people deserve the truth. your thoughts? >> when i had my interview with the fbi, they said no they don't. they are supposed to be for a couple reasons. one because you want to protect

innocent people and number two, you want to make sure that the things that people say from memory and not necessarily accurately, they are not prosecuted for that. the same thing holds true with the grand jury and there's a third reason. the grand jury is, it's supposed to be people come forward openly, honestly and fully and they talk about what they knew. the second thing is the people who, if there is no case and the grand jury members, the problem was the mueller investigation and the fbi as we've now seen from the notes that have been revealed to come if they were using the three oh two testimonies and of the grand jury to set up perjury traps. >> ed: mitch mcconnell weighed in on all of this and quickly i want to get your response. here he is about what you just called impeachment the sequel. >> as democrat said to come they have the right to continue

because, listen to this. the presidents impeachment attack not actually end with his acquittal. it didn't end with his acquitt acquittal. dallas democrats are claiming the impeachment that ended in february is not really over. >> the president didn't like the impeachment, and then there was the son at trial, and we saw it play out live here, and then as the senator says there was an incredible, acquittal. >> you know, with the opportunity cost of this, for three years, the house democrats and the intelligence community and the complicit media, they have dragged the nation through a russia hoax, through an impeachment and now they want to keep doing it. that's the sole superpower, that

united states will not be a world player i think there's a huge opportunity cost of this and we are paying the price for their political partisan posturing and bickering. so shame on them all. >> ed: kt mcfarland not holding back this morning. thanks for coming on. sandra? >> sandra: thank you kt. it meanwhile, the fox news alert, the state of michigan declaring an emergency as the floodwaters rise in the middle of the state. two dams failed and now the operators of at least one of them are reportedly under investigation. thousands of residents forced from their homes. >> it will take multiple days for the water to recede and we have a long way to go before people can return home. and people should not return home until directed to do so. mike is live with the latest.

>> still as we stand in the town of sanford, and that's a bit of a novelty because of the pontiac fiero and they are picked up by the floodwaters and now positi positive. that was the dirt that was deposited. that was caused by a big delusion of water that rushed downstream in this direction and came from about 10 miles up the river at eatonville dam.

the commission's primary concern has been the licensee's long-standing failure to address they could result in a loss of life or human infrastructure. as we know there was no loss of life, the midland police writing there is 11,000 people and plenty of damage to infrastructure. you are looking up saginaw road which used across the to do what bossi river. you can see now saginaw a road is broken up. but the sheriff's deputy said the water would have been up above my head about 4 feet. >> that is an unbelievable scene on the ground, and our best to that community. thank you so much.

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>> ed: a fox news alert, actress lori locklin and her husband massimo generally have agreed to pla plead guilty. they paid to get their daughters a leg up into the university of southern california. as part of the delete the couple will serve months in prison and be required to pay thousands of dollars in fines. we will have a live report and all the details of that pleading live next hour. >> sandra: fox news alert, many americans are talking about how long it will take the economy to recover from these lock downs. another grim tally of lockdowns released this morning. 2.4 million more americans

filing for unemployment benefits last week alone bringing the total number of jobless claims to more than 38.6 million. just since the start of this pandemic. the market reacted to that news this morning. right now, we are just into less than an hour of trading. charles payne, good morning. you look at these numbers and they are not good. millions more americans, and the pace at which americans are filing for these benefits is coming down. >> it is, sandra. in fact over the last six or seven weeks it's been sequentially lower every several weeks. and again, 2.5 or 3 million is a lot, there's no denying that. the trend has been decidedly getting lower and lower.

also if you remember with that job support, one of the key things here is that over 80 or 90% of the people who are unemployed, they believe it's going to be just temporary. we know some of those jobs will become permanent job losses but we are in this period of hope. this sort of period of anticipation that we are reopening the economy, the race is on for vaccines, and there is this. right now. at the market reflects it and those people who say i do percent of their jobs have been temporarily lost, they are reflected as well. >> sandra: at this just brings up the bigger picture of so many americans and so many small business areas. let us go back to the gym and the hair salon. let us as business opener wow owners reopen in the country. it is getting a lot of attention. david marcus, a writer for the federalists, writing this piece

published in "the new york post" this morning. there is a headline. it needs to end, we need to open now. what did you think when we saw this? >> i said hooray. thank you so much for putting this on the cover. two days ago and why you said they were going to open up their campus this fall and i got me thinking, i went and looked at nyu. at their zip code which is in greenwich village and, there's the thing. 2500 cases in my old neighborhood, 150 in the greenwich village area, and the idea of the blanket policy is absurd. if the nyu will open up, what about those small businesses around it? everyone is prepared to be social distancing and be responsible but, there is big debate about how much more money can be put toward yet another

rescue package. americans want to rescue themselves and in new york, if we get some good weather this weekend you will see an example of people who are trying tired of being endorsed and there are merchants selling them things right now. >> sandra: so many of us who have been new yorkers, in my case in my adult life, and they've become all too familiar. here's what david marcus writes and not post op morning. we flattened at the curve. there is no longer any reasonable justification, they belong to us. the fragrance of nature and the god of nature, we are americans. there are many responding to

them to please reopening his daily press conference. >> so that is the challenge. >> so while we understand these pleas to reopen, to get back out and do our daily errands, we understand that the governor's point is that we have to go off the metrics. we have to see those numbers showing the decline that things are improving. so how do you open ultimately find that balance and how do you do this safely so our economy does not continue to get hit like this? >> you know sandra the metrics have been improving for new york state. the governor puts up those charts every day.

and they are overly cautious. there's another piece out today that maybe explains it. they've gone social distancing a week earlier and they saved an additional 22,000 lives. extra pressure, and they are overcompensating right now. the crisis is becoming more for so many new yorkers and it supports new yorkers who are bearing the brunt of it. it's mind-boggling. we know there are certain risks associated with it and we take risks every single day as human beings and certainly as americans. we want to get out there and we want to be vital. we want to add vitality to our lives and vitality act to our economy. >> sandra: with so many lives lost i know we try to do our part by flattening that curve but now we are at that point

were so many say, let us get back out there. charles payne, great to see you. amazon and facebook hitting all-time highs this morning. he will join us on our show, david marcus will be our guests and he will join us to discuss the need for all of new york city to reopen, everything. from broadway shows two beaches to baseball games and schools. so we look forward to hearing from him. >> ed: can't wait for that. he heads there to visit a factory that is making ventilators. the stakes in this key swing state is next. plus houses of worship facing pushback over a stay over stay-at-home orders. what authorities are doing and where all of this is playing out, so i had to. >> i love these people, they are my family. i want the best for them and i want them to do well and be

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the president had to say. >> president trump: when you send out 7.7 million mailing ballots, there's forgeries and duplication with a print ballots on the same kind of paper with the same kind of machinery and you can't tell the difference, and they send in thousands and thousands of fake ballots. i tell you what, good morning gentlemen. richard, what's wrong with making sure that the ballots have come in actually belonging to a real person that's eligible to vote? >> there's nothing wrong with that. i think if you talk to the governor of michigan, it's not about ballots but ensuring the americans with states has a vote.

what we saw just a couple of months ago, when they force folks to go, why not make it safer for folks to vote by making sure that they are male in ballots. the president was concerned about border security, back when they were engaging in elections, he would work to sure those systems up and he did not. >> ed: did the obama administration shore things up? >> no, the obama's could have done more work on it but we should all be making sure that our election system is safe, that cost 90,000 american lives. >> i applaud you richard, people

show simple i.d. in order to vote, things like that, that create all kinds of problems. and that allows lobbyists to go up to people and get them to fill in ballots, and they get counted. and that security and securing ballots to make sure that only people who are registered to vote and qualified to vote get to vote. for every bad ballots, they cancel out a legitimate voters

balance mike ballots. trying to turn the tables on joe biden and his son hunter biden, your senator johnson on this program a short time ago. >> he admitted to basically a quid pro quo, he admitted to an imf loan of over a billion dollars unless they would fire viktor shokin. if we continue to ask the state department, on what basis was the state department upset with viktor shokin, why would they want him fired? i can't even get that answered. you said you are not getting this money unless you fire the prosecutor. republicans have said it certainly sounds like a quid pro quo so why not turn

over these records involved in hunter biden. >> lesson. i think if the bidens want to turn these records over, they should. it's the united states, the developed world said that this prosecutor was terrible, and this prosecutor has to go because he was part of the problem. this was a screened by republicans, for the president to spew misinformation. he tweeted that the governor of michigan was sending out ballots to voters when she was actually sending out requests to get absentee ballots which is complete and is totally misinformation. >> ed: charlie, your thoughts? >> you have to be and the idea

of lowering all of these requirements for people to hand in ballots, no chain of custody or anything like that, those are real concerns. and that bears investigation, and you have the legislature looking into trying to get to the bottom of these curious series of events which of course is very different from the russia collusion scandal because there was no basis for any of it. >> ed: all right gentlemen, i feel like we will continue this conversation many times and days ahead. looking good, richard and charlie, thanks for coming on. >> sandra: churches in the city of chicago defined the

governor stay-at-home orders there. and now police are taking action. authorities are telling fox news that at least three churches well received fines for holding services with more than ten people. matt finn has been followed that story and he is live in chicago with an update. >> sandra, chicago police tell us that these three churches will be had with a $500 disorderly conduct citation, and the pastor of one of those churches is, you continue holding services because he feels they are doing it safely. this particular church just allowed 75 people in. people that attended were asked to meet 13 requirements including not showing symptoms and being less than 65. they also social distance and were separated by two pews. >> we have a lot of needs in the church. we thought about it, we prayed about it and we said we had

peace in our conscience about it. >> currently in illinois gatherings are limited to ten people. 100 pastors are demanding the governor meet with them to talk about what they feel are common sense approaches to reduce capacity sources. big-box stores are being trusted to allow way more than ten people inside and churches should be given the same trust. >> we are willing to work with a number that's reasonable. when you have ten as the number, that's the worship team in many cases. >> chicago police tell fox news, "we continue to ask everyone to help the slow the spread of the virus. residents can return to the religious services in a safe manner. police also tell us that this is about education, they are trying to inform all large gatherings happening across the country that there are dangers when they meet in large numbers.

sandra? >> sandra: matt, thank you. coming up next hour we will be speaking to a pastor who is also defining state restrictions. more on why he says churches should be deemed essential during these difficult times. >> ed: in the meantime, big changes coming to security checkpoints to churches all across america al in the hopes f preventing covid-19. we will talk to a doctor spearheading that warning coming up. >> i've been out of work for two months and haven't received any money of any kind. >> it looks like we are being left out and we want t to the chance to prove that we can also be saved just like other businesses.

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the president's former attorney being released after arriving back home to his new york city apartment. he arrives in a mask and a cap. the president's former attorney pled guilty to several charges and he was expected to be released to home confinement and now has in concerns over the coronavirus. he's 533 years old, and serving of sentence at the federal correctional institution in otis field, new york, which is about 70 miles outside the city. just a few moments ago, there is the image and he is being released as advocates have made the case for the federal government and state governments to release at risk inmates over covid-19 fears in correctional facilities. michael cohen when arriving home to his new york city apartment just moments ago. >> ed: in the meantime doctors

across america now voicing concerns about extended lockdowns. experts say the effects on a person's health can be severe. that's medium and long-term harm to people's health with the continued shutdown. losing a job is one of life's most stressful events and the effect on a person's health has not lessened because it's happened to 30 million other people. keeping schools closed will affect teenagers and adults for decades to come. join me now as dr. simone golda, thank you for being here. >> why don't when did you end of the doctors decide now to sound the alarm? the biggest concern in terms of health at the beginning of all this has obviously been about the pandemic itself.

what's the biggest concern now? >> our and that's not being expressed to the public. there are thousands and thousands of stories of patient harm due to the shutdown itself. >> ed: you know, my son has a tennis coach and he was very upset this week because the tennis coach basically had a stroke a couple of weeks ago. rather than going to the tennis courts, he went days without medical attention and his friends are deeply concerned about the impact. there are people around the country who have noncovid related problems that they are not getting taken care of. >> so you don't have to imagine, i've had thousands upon thousands of these stories. the new england journal of medicine published a letter to the editor documenting that many stroke or stroke like patients

didn't show up. i could redo a heartbreaking story heartbreaking story, of patients who have died or suffered severe harm and were afraid to go to the hospital in their own doctors offices were shot. tragic stories, and we just want america to hear the story. we feel that one opinion is not sufficient. >> he tweeted, do not let the cure or be worse than the problem and people kind of mocked him saying, we have to focus. now as this pay plays out, we ce

about suicide and depression related to the economy. what are your thoughts on how we fix this? >> i don't want the american public to think these are abstract situations, i'm going to give you real stories, real people and real harm. people who have killed themselves, people whose physical health is deteriorati deteriorating. i had a lady who had terribly arthritic hips, she was due for a hip replacement and she ended up becoming very sedentary and about a month later she had a blood clot in her lungs and she's teetering right now. there are thousands upon thousands of the stories, tens of hundreds of thousands. >> ed: we've been focusing a lot on dealing with the pandemic itself and there is a lot in the aftermath. thank you for that important information.

>> sandra: a brand-new poll showing biden extending his lead over donald trump in the race to the white house. a live report on reaction from the campaign trail. that will be coming up. plus nascar returning to darlington raceway yesterday for the second race since resuming the season. driver austin dillon was on the track and he will be here with his thoughts on the race and the new safety protocols. big changes they are facing coming next. >> the green flag nascar is back-to-back at darlington. with newday's va streamline refi there's no income verification, no home appraisal, and no out of pocket costs. it's the quickest and easiest refi they've ever offered. call newday now.

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wednesdays race dates back to 1984. it was ultimately stopped short due to rain with 20 laps to go. joining us now is nascar driver austin dylan who was part of that big race yesterday. he joins us now. austin, good morning. >> good morning. with everything that's going on right now, to have nascar and the sport back on track, it feels really good. it's a hard time, what we are going through in this country and to shine on the light and have a great sport back on the track, it's been fun. i think nascar did a great job bringing it back to the sport. >> sandra: and that's great to hear. so many changes that you are having to encounter to get back on the track safely, as we watch some of that second race since we returned back.

obviously that's an important part of all of this but you are also going through medical screenings before you get on the track. what's that like for you as a driver? >> we get a notification sent to us through our phones each and every day checking in on her symptoms and how we feel and we have to go through that, so that in, then we also have a temperature check as we come into the track with the drivers and crew that are separated. we pretty much walk from our exhaust straight to the car, go through our national anthem 6 feet apart. we put our safety equipment on, get in the car and go race. i talked to kevin harvest from a distance after he won at the race sunday and then, i asked him after he won, how does it feel? he said it's definitely weird because there is no one in victory lane with you but the biggest challenges for all of our fans to see us back out on

the race and see some excitement and joy and back to those other people that are at home wanting to see us on track. >> sandra: such a great message. i know you have another big race coming up this weekend? >> our big race this weekend is the coca-cola 600. we will be representing all five branches, it's a huge race for all of us and we love the coca-cola 600. it's the longest race of the year, a lot of fun to be out there driving for that many miles, it's a grind. you guys need to tune in and watch, it's a fun one. >> sandra: i know it sounds from media, hearing from you that you are willing to get back out on the track. >> we've driven back and forth last night, it was a two hour drive after the track but it was

nice to get home after the race. and then be prepared for a quick turnaround, we really have to think all of our pit crew members, our mechanics and crew chiefs, they are spending a lot of hours kind of working through the way we are going to do this safely so they are the ones doing a great job getting the cars to the track. >> it sounds like a great team effort. today's post, the author of the article will join us with his plea to officials, next. plus the president set to leave for michigan. what's the trip all about and what does it mean for 2020 and the election?

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>> ed: fox news alert on the race for the white house, the president is about to head to a battleground michigan. welcome back to america's newsroom. good morning sandra. >> sandra: i'm sandra smith. the president is about to leave for michigan where he will be touring a ford motor plant to make ventilators. dealing with protests of the stay-at-home orders. and massive flooding from dam breaches. >> i just spoke with gretchen whitmer and they have a big problem with dams breaking.

we sent fema and of the army corps of engineers out and i'm actually going to ford tomorrow come to think of it. so we will be heading out, maybe we will do them at the same ti time. >> a brand-new national poll is leading by 11 points. >> sandra: peter doocy is live in arlington, virginia, with all of that. >> good morning sandra and eddie. joe biden's building on his lead from the basement. quinnipiac found his lead over seven points and now that lead is up to 1150 2:30 nine. it is an impressive showing for a former vp who hasn't hosted an in person event or even left the house since mid-march.

instead, he has given commencement addresses, sat for interviews and hosted virtual rallies all while trying to apply pressure on the president. >> he thinks he's a builder but he's a destroyer of everything he touches. all he has ever done is hollo hw out what really matters. >> everything he says about covid-19 is purely speculative at this point. voters break for biden when asked who they think would do a better job of responding to the to the coronavirus. 55% for biden and 39% for trump. now he's starting to say this about the president's trip to michigan today. we need a president in the white house who understands what it's like to struggle and get back up with the same resilience that motivates michigan families every single day. now trump officials argue that biden is benefiting greatly from the very limited exposure that

he's getting at kellyanne conway puts it at less than one hour of biden per week but she also bets that his fortunes are going to fade quickly once debates roll around and traditional campaign events resume. we just have no idea when that will be. she said they are going to leave the house when it's safe. sandra? >> our next guest is dana perino. she is the cost of the five. i wonder what would matter more in terms of handling something. it is at the poll number that peter doocy just mentioned about who would better handle the pandemic or who would better handle the economy? the president back in april and the quinnipiac 9% to 44 he felt he would do a better job.

now it's tight double bit with presidents down a bit. others would be like it's not so sure come up with the president has a lot of build up from voters about the handling of the economy in the first three years as offense. he made a bet and he's going to run on that and i think that's a great message for him if you contrast it with biden's message on the economy which is modeled, undefined and hard to tell. the other thing is, the states and a few battleground states that we have are what will matter, can president trump pick up a couple states that he did not win before such as may be

minnesota, new hampshire, those are certainly on the list. i think it's too early to say how much this coronavirus and economic impact will affect the presidential race but there is no doubt that the biden campaign is sitting there thinking, maybe sitting in the basement. >> we are crafting a message figuring out how to deal with all this. here's the biden message and i will give you what the president might be saying. joe biden's statement on this trip to michigan today come michigan is in the fight of its life as it battles a pandemic and flooding disaster now more than ever. leadership and empathy matter and for the last three years donald trump has turned his back on working families and his delayed. that might have a message with the interesting message.

>> sandra: i could probably take that biden statement and then, wages were going up for the first time, and you have the fact that the curve was flattened and that the president could say, i got those ventilators there and got you back to work. the empathy for working families should really come from trying to get them back to work because i don't want to necessarily sit there and wait for handouts. you can attack it from both sides. it was a very close race in 2016, and the president, i know he wants to win michigan again and he just might. i also think they might be overthinking it too much on the biden side. if they get there turned out they might be able to figure out a way to squeak that one bye and the president has an opportunity to pick up two states that he lost in 2016. >> ed: of the democrats

obviously impeach the president over the ukraine, and what happened with burisma, ken starr was on earlier and here's what he said about the investigation. >> even hunter biden serving on the burisma board, that was an exercise of poor judgment on this part. why is that? because burisma was corrupt. now we are talking about burisma not in the ukraine but the activities in washington, d.c., during an election year. this is accountability and fact-finding. >> is accountability or election-year politics? >> what that will be the challenge that the republicans will have to take on. the communications challenges make sure that it's on the merit, but the biden campaign will definitely try to fight back against accusations about

hunter biden. as i recall, i don't have the numbers off the top of my head, but they are taking blows over and over again about the terrible judgment that hunter biden showed and even president obama and his team were uncomfortable with it. there's a little bit of a ground to be gained there but it won't make or break the election. >> ed: i don't have the numbers either but i remember you are right. it joe biden wasn't going to get the nomination, he was in trouble. this will change a few more times. dana perino, thanks for coming on. >> ed: breaking news, actress lori locklin and her husband suddenly changing their plea and the college it mission scandal. molly line with more on what they each face.

>> lori locklin and massimo giannelli have change the route they are taking. and they admit their rule role in the college admissions scandal. two months in prison, by $150,000 fine, and lori locklin will plead to one count of conspiracy and his calls for more time behind bars. two years probation and 250 hours of community service. he would plead guilty to one count of conspiracy and wire and mail fraud, and additional charges of bribery and money laundering would go away if the court accepts. prosecutors say the ringleader of the scheme was paid some $500,000 to create bribes and phoning athletic profiles to get their two daughters into the

university of southern california as members of the crew team. though neither team was ever a rower, reading in part? and that they are consistent with prior sentences for the case. so far nine been sentenced, to coaches and 17 parents. it is important to remember that the judge in this case it does not have to stick to the deal that was made with prosecutors. they could receive more time in prison and could receive less but a hearing gets things distorted tomorrow at 11:30 a.m. sandra? >> sandra: molly line, thank you. >> ed: a fox news alert on the mall shooting that sent shoppers running for their lives.

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>> we are going to take some steps towards getting back to normal. we are still is starting make some steps and that will make people act differently. obviously warmer weather, and a lot of things that will start to change people's lives and behavior. things are moving in the right direction. >> sandra: that was a new york city mayor bill de blasio is a strongly worded column called for an end to the lockdown. that catches our attention this morning, the writers plea ending on the front page of today's new york post. there it is, the headline it needs to end now. joining us as the author david marcus, new york writer for the federalists. what's your message? >> we started this lockdown in the middle of march for a very

specific reason, which was to sore hospitals to get overrun. now we are being told that the lockdown has to stay, basically indefinitely. we need to open up the city again and we need to do it right now. i speak when you talk near the end of the piece and open up responsibly and social distancing, clean hands and all the rest, but what are you calling for? i think at a certain point people will have to do that.

we have a situation where we have some big companies that are able to handle this but our small businesses are being absolutely destroyed. i think at a certain point you are just going to have to open and at that point if the governor and the mayor want to shut them down and they are welcome to try. >> sandra: you say a good rant is all a writer can offer. i will read your audience a bit of the piece this morning that's getting so much attention. you flatten the curve, it made the case and did what we were asked, flattened at the freighta freaking curve. our rights aren't the governments to grant or take away, they belong to us. new york governor andrew cuomo as you know david, continues to make the case and those daily press briefings that it is all about the math. here is the governor.

>> it's about science, it's about numbers and about data. smart wins the battle. if you follow the guidance and that theory, we are always looking at and how do we reduce the numbers? >> sandra: it so i hear you making the case that you feel like things are shut down indefinitely but the governor tries to lay out that he's just sticking to the goalposts that he has sent. how do you respond? >> of the problem is there is science and data on both sides. in addition to the really devastating economic impact, and we are not talking about the stock market here, we are talking about people trying to feed their kids and pay the rent. in addition to that, there is a medical toll that's been taken as well.

i understand that the governor doesn't want to make more mistakes and he's already made a, we need to get back to business because the city is dying. >> ed: let's not sugarcoat it. the rant that sandra mentioned, you can always consider that you are led by idiots. governor cuomo and de blasio have no plan and there's not a single question about when new york can get back to normal to which they have a straight answer, not one. they cashed the paychecks while commiserating with the rest of us. >> really frustration more than anything else. three or four weeks ago andrew cuomo says that mike bloomberg will come fresh off of the presidential campaign trail and create a contract, then we will be able to open the city. and nothing is happening. mayor de blasio says a few hundred people have been hired,

and i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one who is pretty much fed up with it. >> sandra: david, you're right about economics regulation in new york city. you are sitting in new york city now. you step outside of your doors and what what do you see? >> it varies a little bit. in my neighborhood and brooklyn there are definitely a lot of people out on the streets, and some places are starting to try to open up. i've been to parts of manhattan that look like an absolute ghost town, i've never seen it before. so again, more than anything else, when this ends, we need to make sure that the shutter is go up on those businesses and the businesses still exist in the job still exist. right now, it's crunch time for so many people who are trying to make their livelihood in new york city. >> ed: we just showed that live shot of times square.

here we are more than a couple of months in and there are still virtually no activities in the middle of times square. it's a well-timed piece, and we say it in a good way, a good rant every now and again to make get people's attention. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. me know what, i suspect now in custody after a shooting at a shopping mall near phoenix. >> [bleep] they are shooting. >> ed: police say three people were wounded and one of them is now in critical condition. william la jeunesse has allayed us this morning on our west coast in his room. william, good morning. >> police just identified the suspect as 20-year-old armando hernandez jr. he lived with his parents in nearby peoria arizona. multiple 911 calls of shots fired at a popular restaurant

area adjacent to the arizona cardinals stadium. hernandez allegedly opened fire with a muscle style rifle. police did not provide a motive but a former high school classmate called hernandez troubled and antigovernment. the state senator tweeted it we just witnessed an armed terrorist, and moments later and people are driving by as police arrived, and just out of frame, the suspect puts his hands in the air and kneels to the grou ground. >> when our first officers arrived on the scene there was no longer any reports of active shooting from our dispatchers, besides that those first officers arriving. no further gunshots. >> according to a local tv reports, a brother called the mother saying hernando is going crazy. she identified him as the

shooter as well. in a series of clips on snapchat, fernandez says, we will be shooting up westgate, let's get this done. just before the shooting, witnesses claimed esquivel saw the suspect at a nearby park and said he was acting so odd and threatening, that they left. >> when he arrived home he said several hours later he saw through snapchat that the person who was identified as the shooter was in fact the same person that he saw at the park. >> so last night police search the suspect's home and took out several bags of evidence. one victim remains critical, the other is hospitalized in the third gone home. >> sandra: president trump set to and the president threatens to pull funding from that state. we will have a live report from the white house coming up. plus a war of words heating up

between president trump and china including a rare rebuke of beijing's leader xi jinping. asia analyst gordon chang will join us live next on that. >> we stand up to china and demand investigations of the origin of this virus and china cuts off trader. well guess what, china needs the united states much more than we need them.

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senate is expected to vote on the nomination of john radcliffe to become the next director of national intelligence. the debate is already underway at this hour and, we are posting that right here. >> sandra: we are awaiting president trump's departure from the white house for a trip to michigan. this comes as a threatens to withhold funding for michigan after absentee ballots were set out for registered voters. david sponge is live at the white house with all of that. >> president trump will take off in about 30 minutes in this comes as parts of michigan are literally underwater with flooding. if there is no word if president trump may tour some of that flooding from air force one but, they are not making car parts anymore but ventilators. the president yesterday if the state expands a vote by mail.

secretaries across the country say they are mailing applications for ballots to ease the burden of going to vote in person during this covid-19 crisis. >> it's also a reflection of what will be happening in our state and the months ahead which is an effort to misinform and confuse voters about their rights in the state. we see it happening nationally. >> those comments come after the president repeatedly warned about fraud. >> president trump: we will be finding out very soon if it's necessary. i don't think it's necessary because mail-in ballots are subject to massive fraud. >> the president took aim at nevada and michigan, but republicans a secretary of state to the same thing in georgia, iowa, nebraska and west virginia. 36,000 people could have been saved if the government put in place social distancing orders just a week earlier.

"the new york times" is citing columbia university or numbers. what would have saved the lives is if china had been transparent in the world health organization had fulfilled its mission. the attorney general in michigan sandra also demanding that president trump wear a mask today on his tour and he said he did so in phoenix at the honeywell plant, although no cameras captured him. we will see if he does so today. >> sandra: david spent live at the white house. >> ed: in the meantime the president escalating his accusations over china's handling of the coronavirus, indicating spokesman speak stupidly, and that part and is spread throughout the world. the disinformation of the propaganda attack on the u.s. and europe is a disgrace. they could have easily stopped

the plague but they didn't. gordon chang is the author of the coming collapse of china. good morning. >> good morning. do you see the shift now in the president, not just his rhetoric but his approach to president xi? he's trying to have him as almost an ally and partner in trade talks but now he's not just going after the communist government general, he seems to be going directly at the president of china. >> what americans try to do is try to entice chinese leaders. what president trump has done starting from yesterday was a very corrosive language and, i think this is a good thing because he's becoming much more realistic about what the chinese data. the chinese leaders took steps that inevitably lead to the spread of the coronavirus and

president trump and another tweet called this, and actually i think the president could have gone further and said this was either reckless or malicious. anyway we are seeing a new tone out of the white house and that i believe is a move in the right direction. >> ed: it's speaking of that tone, here's the president on tuesday speaking about the world health organization and china. watch. >> president trump: i think they have done a very sad job in the last period of time. and again, the united states pays them $450 million per year and china pays them $38 million per year. and they are a puppet of china. they are china centric to put it nicely. >> ed: the rhetoric and the shift in tone, is that accountability? >> i think so.

president trump talked about defunding the fhl pending an investigation and the president has also talked about establishing an alternative global health group. both of those things i think are going to be significant and push the w.h.o. perhaps in a better direction and if they don't, it means the u.s. is going to go on a different direction. we got to remember that what china did was terrible, but the world health organization helped them. help them propagate the false notion that this disease was not human to human transmissible when the w.h.o. knew it was but the w.h.o. helps china pressure to countries and that's because of actions from the world health organization's.

how do you square all that? >> i certainly call the failure in china before it has occurred. that's by the middle of the end of last decade and obviously it didn't. what we were seeing right now, are some stresses in the chinese political system. xi jinping with his wolf warrior diplomacy which really has been trying to spread the influence. they see an historic opportunity to extend china's cloud around the world and it's doing so in very provocative ways. actually some of these are in a way which are destabilizing the division, and the east china sea is where they are taking the

position that kazakhstan should be part of china. this is incredible stuff and we have to be concerned where beijing is going because this shows stress inside of the chinese political system. >> ed: and some big news indeed. thanks for keeping that on the radar. >> sandra: for those of you who are still wiping down your groceries and other packages found at deliveries, the centers for disease control and prevention has set new guidelines sang the coronavirus does not spread easily from touching surfaces or objects, or from animals to people. or, from people to animals. experts are warning that that does not mean to no longer take necessary practical and realistic precautions. the cdc says "it's possible that one could get covid-19 by touching a surface or object that has a virus on it, then touching their mouth, nose or possibly their eyes but this is not thought to be the main way

that virus spreads. we are still learning more about this virus. and that is key. we still don't know a lot about the spread of the virus, but these new cdc guidelines mean that perhaps we don't have to drive ourselves crazy. bringing in the groceries and wiping down everything because it's not spread easily. >> it's understandable on one hand, and on the other hand it think it leads to what david talked about. it's going to spread on the surface, it might not spread on the surface. we are trying to balance all that and it's a difficult business. >> sandra: what certainly didn't change in their guidelines, so remember to do all of that. >> ed: thank you. in the meantime chicago

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>> we have a lot of needs in the church. we have a lot of hurting families, and we have peace in our conscience about it. >> sandra: at the churches in chicago are now paying the price for making that decision as a police department now finds houses of worship hundreds of dollars for holding services that defy the governor's order, limiting religious gatherings to ten people. at least three. churches have been hit with penalties. joining us now as a pastor at one of those churches, pastor florin tony a campion.

why did you make the decision to exceed the number of people in your church that was allowed? >> we decided to increase the numbers of dissipation in our services. importantly then for the church itself, it's for the people. the church, i call it constantly a spiritual hospital. people need the church for their emotional needs and spiritual needs, mental needs. so we are doing over 40 services online since march 19 and they increase the numbers which we did it, we very strict guidelines to have in our place for people to be safe, social distancing and the sanitizing and all of that.

>> sandra: so pastor, mary mayor lori lightfoot is explain her decision to go out and find churches like yours for that decision. >> so what we did yesterday is again try to continue to educate people into compliance. we had folks that were out there because there was some concern about counter protests. luckily, none of that materialized. but certainly, there were some churches that congregated in excess of the allowable number and we will be taking action. >> sandra: okay so that was her explanation. i want to get this in here as well. this is willie wilson, former mayoral candidate and businessman who says he will cover the fines for those churches saying that the governor and mayor continue to trample on our constitutional rights while hiding behind a stay-at-home order that treats the church as nonessential.

while liquor stores and marijuana dispensaries and home depot are treated as essential businesses. expand on that a little bit and explain why it is worth it for you to be signed and open your church doors to your congregan congregants. >> so we believe the churches are essentially vital for the community and not only our members, because it offers such vital services. i went to the different place, and it was very safe compared to what we have for all of these places. i think it's not right for the churches, we do not ask for special rights but we ask for equal rights.

and outside, i learned from different sources. we are very safe and what we data. we have about 75 people or maybe a little bit over 75 and that is a small number compared to the services that we have there. >> this is a church in normal days not what it looks like over the weekend. i'm sure you look forward to getting back to these happier days when we can all hear the music playing and conduct your services safely. we appreciate you coming on and

it's telling your to this. thank you pastor. >> ed: a lot of small businesses taking a devastating head of course from the virus but when business is booming. business has never been better. they haven't had to lay off any workers and we will find out why, next.

>> ed: look at this, a minnesota bakery not laying off any full-time employees because a speaking hundreds of cakes for 2020 grads. it is just one of those cakes that vanish bakery and coffee shop made of. bill, good morning to you. >> how's it going?

>> it's going fantastic. talk about this idea that you had to make these cakes and give them out to graduates for free? are you getting donations, people jumping in and helping support? >> it started out as an idea to support our seniors here in redwing and it kind of grew and blossomed. 12 towns and 800 cakes is a lot of baking. >> ed: is that it started out as a great idea, it turned out to be a little more than you bargained for, or is it a labor of love? >> definitely a labor of love. this is definitely nowhere near anything that i bargained for. the support has been absently amazing. >> ed: what was a message he wanted to send it to these grads? whether it was a high school grad or college grad or junior high god, we got them all around

the country. they finish up school on a difficult note where they are taking tests on a laptop, instead of being in there with professors and teachers and then they don't even really get to do that wonderful walk with her family gets to be proud. what message do you want to send to these young people? >> this is just one of the bumps in the road. life will throw you curveballs, and this is a way to show them that the community will support them now and support them down the road. >> ed: a great message to them. what about the curveball that you got as a small business owner, how are you doing? >> our coffee shop is completely closed, and we are doing some remodeling and have lost all of our wholesale business which is a good chunk for us.

and the business has been supported just awesome. it's amazing and great to see. >> ed: our viewers, i just checked the website. do you make coffee kick? >> we make great coffee kick. >> ed: okay because my cohost sandra, her mom likes it. >> give us a call and the girls will be happy to get you an authentic german coffee kick. >> ed: you've done a lot for a lot of young people, we really appreciate it. >> thank you very much. >> sandra: sounds delicious, we look forward to that. meanwhile, devastating flooding in michigan creating a new cause for concern. what officials they are now fearing as the high waters flow downstream.

>> sandra: a new threat emerging in michigan as floodwaters that breached two dams are flowing downstream, heading straight for a dow chemical plant and to hazardous waste sites. mike tobin is on this live in the sanford, michigan. he has the latest from there. hey, mike. >> here in sanford, sandra, they say it could've been worse, only because the water was expected to go 3 feet higher. it's hard to tell owners of

buildings like that that it could've been worse. next to that museum is the village hall that floated down this way and collided with this building. i will show you a couple of things. if we move in this direction, you see some of the guardsmen around inspecting right now. they are looking at the integrity of buildings and looking for survivors or people who may have been trapped inside buildings. i want to point you something out, as you look at that small structure, do you see the white silt on the roof of that structure? that's a high water mark. that is how high the water got here within a 24-hour period before it all retreated out of here. you do have a situation where people are saying it could've been much worse, because i could have been 3 feet higher. so far there have been no reports of injuries, but people are inspecting now building to building. sandra? >> sandra: okay, mike tobin reporting live from michigan for us. some unbelievable images coming from there. our best to that community. >> ed: the president will be on the ground soon. they've already lost several thousand people because of the pandemic, and other historic flooding. they say in hundreds of years we

haven't seen something like this in michigan, sandra. a big story that we will stay on top of. speak to don agreed to be with you for these three hours, ed. we'll be back here tomorrow morning 9:00 eastern. thanks for joining us. >> ed: "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: we begin with this fox news alert. right now the president is gearing up to depart the white house for the battleground state of michigan. he could stop to talk with the press on his way out the door. we'll bring you that if it happens. the president will visit a ford plant that is now making ventilators, and this comes amid this showdown with that state's democratic governor gretchen whitmer, over her coronavirus response. as the president is threatening to withhold federal funding to the state of michigan and nevada over their efforts to increase mail in voting amid the pandemic. the president says the move encourages voter fraud. >> when you send out 7.7 million

mail-in ballots, there are