is my world. [♪] judge jeanine: hello and welcome to "justice." i'm judge jeanine pirro. i hope you are having a great and safe holiday weekend. let's get right to my opening statement. so here we are on memorial day weekend 2020. the quint essential holiday with beach fun and backyard barbeques. the day itself recognizes the heroes who gave their lives so we can live free and do these very things.

weep display the american flag and visit cemeteries and thanking god that there were heroes willing to die for the rest of us. but this halliday is different. america has brought to her knees by an invisible enemy. we buckled and bowed to unknown science and to models that were more wrong than right. i'm not criticizing anyone. they were doing their best to protect us. but authoritarian governors and local officials looking to flex their pathetic muscles to keep us on lockdown, another story. new york city and l.a. are still on lockdown. democratic mayor garcetti says

la will not fully open until there is a vaccine and schools probably will not re-open until kids can get tested weekly. governor gavin newsom in line with him. governor andrew cuomo never figured out seniors needed to be isolated and protected. he did nothing when people begged that covid patients not be put into nursing facilities where 5,800 seniors died. governor deand sometimes criticized mercilessly for not doing enough early on lost 1,000 seniors. but he knew to protect and isolate the seniors. all the while governor k -- all,

governor cuomo pontificated about ventilators. and the mercy ship he didn't need. and the afterits center returned back to a center. last one day three churches were hit with fines for holding services in chicago, while liquor stores, marijuana dispensaries and home depot are wide open because they are considered essential businesses. americans want out of the chains that lock us in our homes. the virtual house arrest on us. it won't let us attend church and seems to punish those of work for their families and

futures. '. doctors raise alarm about the health effects of continued mass cat ought incident from the shutdown. >> for some there will be no business to rebuilt. for others there will be no coming back from the depths of depression, alcohol or drug abuse. canceled elective surgeries prolonged emotional pain and stress and depression. there are 5 to 10,000 deaths occurring from suicide, depression, drug addiction, loss of hope, battered women locked at home with their abusers, abused children not being identified or protected because

they cannot go to school. now even the front cover of the new york post read, it needs to end now. the big apple is dying. its streets are empty. tens of thousands have been plunged into poverty. our leaders have no plans. no answers. new yorkers already learned to socially distance. we are past the danger zone and americans know it. they feel it. in some states they plan to come out and protest. the totalitarian orders of politicians in illinois, california and new york. the questions so many americans ask, was it necessary for government to shut down in the first place? that question doesn't need to be answered now. what's done is done. but the question that does need to be answered now is where any part of america is shut down. we no longer need it.

we know the danger. we know what to do. the elderly can isolate. we got this. there is no longer justify case for this d there is no longer justification for this lockdown. what are we waiting for? don't tell me a vaccine. we don't know when and how that will happen. the left seizes on a nanny state, an authoritarian approach to keep you scared, home and down. that includes hiding joe biden in the basement as they gleefully move toward their siren song of socialism. the right want you to choose your destiny, path and future. we don't want to be told how much we need to live on or how to live. we are a capitalist society. we know the dangers and we know how to live. we won't allow the left to

infringe on our constitutional rights, our freedom of speech, the right to exercise our religion and you civil liberties to peacefully address the wrongs of government. in the words of ronald reagan, the government's first duty is to protect the people. not run their lives. so on this memorial day weekend as we recognize, respect and honor those who died defending these very rights, it's important that we reaffirm our faith in this nation, that it is indeed the home of the free because of the brave. so as we pledge allegiance to the american flag we recognize two things. the flag does not fly because the wind moves it, it fly with the last breath of each soldier who died protecting it, written

by unknown. two, we are one nation under god, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. that means deciding how we'll live our lives. that's my open. let me know what you think on facebook page and twitter #judgejeanine. joining me now is the ranking member of the house intelligence committee, ranking congressman from california, devin nunes. >> great to be with you on this memorial weekend. judge jeanine: what do you think? should america re-open? >> here in california what you have happening is you have a governor in a state picking winners and losers. we saw that a few weeks ago when they filled a skate board park full offed and.

when you saw -- full of sands. and lake tahoe, restaurants are open, napa valley, restaurants are open. people are wondering why in the san joaquin valley where i live, a lot of people work in meat plants and they deliver food to america and all around the world. people are asking why is it the small businesses in our area not open, and why is the governor threatening to withhold federal funds because the board of supervisors in our region said we are opening because these businesses are not going to be able to make it. what people have to look at is common sense here. was it okay to have a mash pit spat walmart while the mom and

pop store was shuttered and shut in. it doesn't make a lot of sense. judge jeanine: they have asked it in michigan and illinois and new york. who is making the decisions. you say the joaquin valley is not open. who makes those decisions? governor newsom? >> that am exactly what happened. our board of supervisors in tulare county voted to open up. the governor came in and said we'll withhold funds from you. how is that possible? napa valley, vineyards, beautiful place, lots of great restaurants. judge jeanine: doesn't newsom own wineries. >> i think he does. and i'm not placing blame on him. i love napa valley, too. but the fact of the matter is,

why in the heart of agriculture in the san joaquin valley where we produce food for the whole world, why would you be threatening the supervisors who say we can't meet our rules and regulations any more. thes have and the have nots, it doesn't make sense to a lot of people. judge jeanine: you can go to walmart and home depot. but if a small business sells the same thing wall part. for example, an ophthalmologist who sells eye glass frames. you can buy them in walmart, but the small business can't open up. you can buy ice cream that walmart but you can't bite at a small ice cream shop.

when we talk about your state, nursing homes. what happened with nursing homes in california? it was a mess in new york. cuomo refused the request to not put covid patients? nursing homes. >> nursing homes are regulated by the state in california. one of the central things we can agree on. let's be really clean. let's try to separate from one another. but most importantly, let's protect the most vulnerable in this country which are the seniors with preexisting conditions. everybody agreed upon that. but the places where we have seen things even? california have been in the nursing homes where it went wrong. a lot of them have been devastated. it's very, very sad. but now the people of the san

joaquin valley, a lot of people who stayed working in the fields in agriculture are being punished by the governor because he couldn't figure out how to secure the nursing homes. it doesn't make a lot of sense. judge jeanine: the supreme court ruling that the democrats are not entitled to get grand jury testimony in the mueller case. not a big surprise to anyone who is a lawyer. grand jury testimony is secret and cannot be used for politics. but in addition to that if the general flynn, and the judge emmitt sullivan refusing to grant the dismissal of the case requested by bill barr. not you prosecution has made a request to a circuit court to

force the judge in the flynn case to dismiss the case as requested and agreed upon by the defense. what do you think will happen there? >> thursday we saw a three-judge panel. they have given judge sullivan 10 days to explain himself. i believe this is a positive development. i would find it hard to believe that sullivan continues on this suicide mission. this is a danger to the court. it's a danger to his legacy. i can't imagine this three-judge familiar wouldn't just throw this out. the department of justice has admitted and there are multiple ongoing investigation on what happened to general flynn. never happened in history and it's wrong.

judge jeanine: it is wrong. i suspect the circuit court will agree. congressman, thanks for joining us on his holiday weekend. charlie kirk still on deck. it's gone on too long, but will the worldwide shutdown go down as one of the biggest mistakes in history.

judge jeanine: my next guest says the worldwide lockdown thanks to the coronavirus may be the greatest mistake in american history. my next guest. dennis prager. thanks so much for being here. you say -- you have written an article where you say the lockdown is not only a mistake, but you say it's possibly the biggest mistake the world has made. >> i wrote that a few weeks ago. now i'm more certain than ever. it may very well turn out and it may have already turned out. but over the course of the next few months and certainly the year. more people will have died because of the lockdowns than

because of the virus. when you realize there were no lockdowns in 969 when 1 -- in 1969 when 100,000 americans died, and a much smaller population, so it would be the equivalent of 150,000. we live in a different age, we do not value freedom because the left is in charge. the left has never valued freedom from marx to today. they may believe in equality and government. but they do not believe in liberty. i wonder how many people on the left, and i distinguish between left and liberal. how many people on the left value the idea on this memorial day weekend that people died for liberty. we are not even prepared to live for liberty. this is the most serious crisis

in american history since the civil war. judge jeanine: there are many people who say that this is a civil war, and it's getting worse and worse. people maybe not raising arms. buff it's -- but it's about as divided as it gets. people are feeling the people we elected in government who have no experience in science and no experience with anything like a pandemic are deciding rules that are nonsensical. you have got thi this whitmer governor in michigan who say you can go to home depot but you can't go to church. religion is under attack. capitalism is under attack. you you can't go to work if you want to, even if you protect yourself. what is their end game here? >> i have spent my life asking

your question. what is the end game of the left? part of the pans lies in something barack obama said? 2008 at a rally. remember he was elected in 2008. and he said, we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the united states of america. joe biden just said that about a week or two ago. if i'm elected we'll transform the united states of america. the left wants to transform the united states of america. the right thinks we should only improve it. this transformative idea, this utopian ideal is the essence of leftism. it overthrows all that is good in its utopian aim for all safe. safe is a mantra. there is no such thing as a safe life. there is safety in the grave.

there is no safe in this life. if you get married it's not safe. if you have children it's not safe. if you go on the road it's not safe. that's the reason a lot of left-wing kids don't get married and have children. it's not safe. that's the end game. the transformation of the united states of america. judge jeanine: let's assume if nancy pelosi has her way with this new $3.3 trillion bill that just passed the house and is in the senate, is she as interested in just printing money ad infinitum so people stay home and don't go to work the incentive they are creating with unemployment. and people whimming to do so working at homes and under the table are making more under this

kind of totalitarian regime than they could if businesses opened up. they are creating incentives for things that are not part of the capitalist system that we belong to. >> the democratic party is no longer liberal. it's leftist. one of the distinctions between left and liberal is the attitude toward the free market. the left never embraced it and liberals always embraced it. there is one other thing you said that i smiled when you said it. and distinguishing feature between conservative and left. the moment i hear somebody ask the questions you asked, gee, what are the consequences? i know i'm talking to a con conservative. there is no asking of the left, what are the consequences of closing down the economy of the world. it was also done by non-leftists, i fully acknowledge.

a liberal regime in sweden did not do it. i never thought i would say god bless sweden, but i do now. if there is a second wave, sweden will be the most prepared society for a second wave in the world. judge jeanine: when is this going to be over? >> it's not going to be over. once you get away with authoritarian practices, they will be repeated. this is a dress rehearsal for a police state in the name of global warming. judge jeanine: wow. dennis prager, always good to have you on justice. new york city business owner just wants to get back to work. graduation, prom, internships, summer jobs. charlie kirk from turning point joins me to discuss the effect on college students across the country.

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gavin newsom is a person, he's not a genius, he's nod a wizard. he's not from another planet. he has incredible power over 40 million people in california. saying not yet, we'll open up a little bit on may 15. you can go to beach, but you can't sit down. you can't tell people what to do like that. judge jeanine: that's joe row began railing against -- joe rogan railing against the coronavirus shutdown. with the shutdowns moving some prominent voices towards the president? so what do you see with people

like joe rogan and likely a vote for president trump. what is that about? >> the shutdown impacted everybody. at continuing point usa we represent an organization on 2,000 high school and college campuses. with total closures we see young people realizing the socialism we are trying to warn them about has come here for a couple months. they can't leave their house. you can't go to a skate park. governor whitner in michigan said you can't have two people in a boat. you start to see crumbs of this with joe rogan. elon musk said he may leave california for texas. you see people going out of their way to challenge the authoritarian narrative. joe biden and the democrats want to continue to say stay at home

endlessly. president trump can be on the side of liberty, freedom and the american experience. we see this as a freedom revolution. judge jeanine: you make an excellent point. you are on the college cam pauses. you have been on those campuses for years. intensely going back and forth with these students. and it's so even b -- it's so id in them that capital up is bad. do you think they are getting it? i wonder, i really do. elon musk says he wants to move to nevada or texas. certainly a capitalist, but not someone taking the right side of things. >> young people have been portrayed as far to the left. but i think we have a total reset.

this virus changed everything. i think it will change our generation's political trajectory. for years william f. buckley said we have to stand atop history and say stop. now we can stand on the present and say no more and never again. our generation is not going to give our power and freedom to some elected politician who doesn't know what's best for us it's a teachable, real moment for a generation that might never have experienced marxism or socialism. now we can say we are never going to accept this again. >> when do you expect to get back on campuses. when you communicate with high schoolers. proms, graduations, internship, all of that is gone. how are you connecting with these young kids? >> judge, it's such a great question.

he part of the population has been impacted by the shutdowns and the virus. but young people with spring sports canceled. proms canceled. graduations canceled. a lot of people i am talking to have thad had their job offers rescinded and internships postponed. ' the president has a massive opportunity to say i am the president of economic renewal and getting your life back on track. huge opportunity. judge jeanine: when do you think the president will end up going back to the rallies and getting out there and getting people fired up again? talking about how crazy this has been. >> it's a great point, judge. joe biden, we didn't take his

rallies away. the social distance guidelines 10 people to a room is perfectly acceptable for people like joe biden. but president trump wasn't able to use his greatest political assets, 50,000 people in a room. i think by mid-summer and early fall be we'll see the juxtaposition of the president rallying versus joe biden. for those of us who love freedom and liberty outside of politic. ask people did you enjoy this? if you didn't, bring us back to prosperity. judge jeanine: shutdown is good for joe biden and the opposite is better for the president. but i'm sure there is no politic involved in this, right,

charlie? >> right. >> we got to the go, charlie. great having you on. re-opening safely and smart. we'll talk about that and have a few laughs with author

judge jeanine: welcome back on this holiday weekend. we are talking about coming together, bringing become our businesses and the economy. let's keep the conversation going with the author of "don't burn this book," dave rubin. until a few years ago i was a full-on leftist. do you admit or deny you made that statement, dave? >> i don't remember if i was sworn in by your staff before we went live. but i was a lefty. you can find videos of me.

i was a bernie supporter. i was on a far left youtube network. i started saying the left, we are no longer acting liberally. we are not defending free speech. we are creaming speakers off college campuses and burning college campuses down. that burst forth into all the chaos we are seeing in the modern left. judge jeanine: does that mean you will leave l.a. and move to a capitalist red state, right state? >> now i'm fully on trial here. i can tell you this. everyone i'm talking to in l.a. i do walk my dog. i don't know if it's legal. occasionally you cross somebody and be we are talking. judge jeanine: i have got to stop you. why can't you walk your dog? people are pooping in the

streets in california. why can't your dog poop in the streets. but keep going. >> most of the pooping in the streets is happening in san francisco. that was gavin newsom our governor. he was the mayor of san francisco. people in california to directly answer your question. everyone is kind of talking about it. do we bail or stay and fight. i am not sure what i'm going to do. there is a part of me that maybe it's too messed up with the budget, the way they ruined everything. maybe it's too far gone. then the other part of me is a fighter. if there is one silver lining to everything going on, regular people who maybe aren't particularly political who don't really care about politics in a big way who are just trying to live their lives. you trap them their houses for two months and tell them they

can't go to work and can't make a living and tell them there is no end in sight. i think regular people are waking up to what joe reach in government is. they are waking up to what free is and individual rights are. we have a right and a duty to live our lives as we see fit. it's not the government's responsibility to keep us safe. a government can't do that. judge jeanine: it's almost like a full court press. they are not just saying you have to stay in your home. what they are also saying is we'll give you money to stay in your home. and you have to do it in order to be safe. it's almost like it's a movie that they figured it all out. remember that movie "wab the dog"? they are creating real fear, it

was justified based upon covid, but now we are at the curve. the hospitals are not joe flowing. now they are saying we'll give you money. it's okay to stay home. people now who are in some states where they can go out. they are like a little worried. it's learned behavior. maybe i shouldn't go out now. it's a full court press by the left, and it's a left-right issue. the fact that americans who may never have been political are now getting it is a good thing as you say, it truly is. >> that is a good thing. this is what the kids on line call red killing. when you see the world for what it is, not what the media hands you and sees you. it's a remembers from the matrix movie. people don't want to live like

this. we all know. everyone knows it. everybody with a couple neurons firing in their brain. you are going to break an arm or twist an ankle. you might be hit by a car. anything you do in business involves risk. you can make money, lose money. anything worthwhile in life is about risk. what the blue state governors are doing in effect, they are saying we are going to reduce all of your risk to nothing, except there is no such thing as no risk. then you see the governors like and not texas and desantis in florida saying we don't know the exact perfect response to everything. but we are going to try to let you live. we'll look at the numbers, the video by desantis where he's talking about the numbers, he said this is what we did, and this is what we are going to continue to do. that's how you should govern.

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judge jeanine: the shutdown has had a devastating effect on business owners in our country. joining me is nick aroyyo. thanks so much for being here. you have salons and schools, you train people on how to deal with hair and egg related to it. you are licensed. and now you are shut down. i'm sure it wasn't good news when you heard new york city is not open. how is this affecting you financially, whether you think be able to come out of it, and what you plan to do. >> so, we have been closed for 10 weeks. i'm literally a million dollars in debt because of the

closedown. we have very little revenue, 5%. hairdressers in the community do not have a voice and i am doing my best to have a strong voice so people can get back out there. it's like we are not being taken seriously, period. we are exercising our votes. or starting a new campaign. called hairdressers for heroes. we'll give too our heroes and first responders free hair throughout this year. we are kickstarting this straightaway so we can practice the new rules that we'll be using our salons and schools and we'll continue to speak and exercise our voice so we can get our businesses back open. the governor is not taking care of us. we have to take care of ourselves.

we are licensed. and we practiced in infection control. that's what we do in our schools and salons. we are sterilize everything. and we are ready to get back to work. judge jeanine: when do you want to kickstart, how much salons are you talking about? how are you going to do this? >> june 1 we want to open one of our salons and actually doing some hair and seeing how we cope in the new norm. what that means is salon owners, about 15 salon owners in new york and long island. they are going to come together to one of my locations, and we'll be inviting in the healthcare workers and give them free haircuts so they can look great, they can feel fabulous, and we can also test, we can test how the new rules are. we know how the new rules are.

we set the new rules literally 8 weeks ago. as soon as this thing happened, i went to my community. i know thousands of hairdressers. we created a client chatter and state charter. it's similar to what the government has been using salons across america. judge jeanine: i have he confidence you are well aware and familiar. but the question is at what cost. are you concerned about your license? you have got some of these governors and local authorities, a judge throwing a hairdresser in jail. what are you willing to risk? >> well, this is what i'm risking, my livelihood. i don't have a livelihood right now. the rent is still going. we are taking the renter day. we are in a stay at home

position. when i go to the grocery store i see what i see and i know my salon is safer and cleaner, and i think my patrons will have a phenomenal time. i do know my clients. we service over 1,000 clients a week. they are looking to get their hair done. it's incredible what's happening. and we know how to do it. we are not going to go rogue. that's not the way we want to do things. we see what happens when you go rogue. we are not going rogue. what we are doing is opening the business on june 1. judge jeanine: nick, i wish you well, and hopefully we'll hear about this after june 1. nick, thanks so much.h.h.h.h. i got this mountain bike for only $11. dealdash.com, the fair and honest bidding site. an ipad worth $505, was sold for less than $24; a playstation 4 for

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throughout the week on facebook, twitter an instagram, thank you for watching, i am jeanine pirro advocating for truth, justice and the american way. have a wonderful memorial weekend, the grade that phil choate is coming right up. i will see you next saturday night. ♪. greg: it is true, our president takes drugs. >> hydroxychloroquine, right now. i was just waiting to see your eyes light up when i said this. when i announced this. >> i have been taken for a week and a half, every day, i take a pill every day. greg: the president did the unthinkable, he told you he was taken a drug prescribed to him by white house doctor. why, he tells us everything. in the medias brains bubbled like crack