tucker carlson is up next, we will see you tomorrow. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." we have stunning new details for you on that horrifying nursing moment attack in detroit that we showed you on friday night. the story is even worse than realized.yiyi it turns out an executive order from governor gretchen whitmore may have played a role in what you saw. first of all, happy memorial day weekend. it's possible you may have spent along with millions of others, months trapped indoorer pro-government orders. so hitting the park, walking the beach for a couple of hours, it's essential. all of us need it.

nature is medicine. happy balance people understand that intuitively. you cannot just sit on the couch all day barking at people on social media. your soul role brought if you do that. and it's too late for a lot of people at cnn. they have not even been trapped inside for months. for reasons no one in authority has never really explained. cable news with gap errors have been classified as essential workers from the very first day of lockdown. that includes us. it also includes the partisan political activists on the other channels. they did not lose their jobs. they have not been quarantined. if anything, they are thriving in theey midst of this disaster. they feel more essential than they ever have, your suffering has been the best thing to happen to them since impeachment when they got to spend a full month pretending to know where ukraine is. you can imagine the rage when they saw you outdoors this weekend enjoying time with your family. the fact that you disobeyed them drove them insane. here is cnn. >> these were not the images

health officials were hoping to see this memorial day. partygoers ignoring social distancing rules impacting this pool in missouri over theol weekend. >> beaches, boardwalks, pools pact with many people who areh not wearing masks, who are not kssocially distancing. even as health experts warned that if they don't social distance, there will be a spike in coronavirus cases within the next two weeks. >> a question about masks, take a look at, there is not a single person on this beach wearing one. >> crediting vacationers on a boardwalk in ocean city, maryland, and at myrtle beach, south carolina. >> its estates bolt to reopen. it symbolizes the floodgates being open. >> tucker: can you imagine? people enjoying times outdoors with their kids, they should be unhappy like we are at cnn! just being cnn, a lot of people did not hear any of that. most viewers are hustling through airports trying to make a flight. that's where the network traps

the bulk of the audience. producers thought of that, diabolical as they are. and he made sure to reinforce their efforts with graphics on the screen. crowds across u.s. ignoring guidelines, sparing fears of spread. spearing. what a verb. and sparking fear of outbreak. then there was this one, americans flocked to public places as death toll nears 100,000. what does thatth mean? cnn never explained. you should be terrified, that was a point, so no explanation was necessary. over on msnbc, the retired cnn analysts and gender studies was terrified. they fear that somewhere out there in america, there might still be people who believe in more than shopping and vacatio vacations. horrifying. it's possible, that people like this dangerous religious extremists might findpe each otr and come together to pray.

not pray tate tim cook, the google twins, or even barack obama, but pray to something called god. and that cannot be allowed. >> the virus is not religious. it won't respond to prayer, i am afraid. it loves congregations. >> aggressive re-openings, warnings from his own cdc and his own advisors. and on the other side, democrats who have hitched their fortunes to science and data. >> regardless of how that plays with separation of church and state and even if the president has no authority to issue such a decree, his insistence on a rushed reopening flies in the face of what public health experts continue to advise that this is not a time to become complacent. >> tucker: there you have it, jeb bush's dimwitted spokesperson, re-emanated as an

epidemiologist, she wants you to know and believe that the democrats put the lockdown orders and placed based on science and data. okay. we will take the challenge. what science and data are you talking about exactly? we will wait as you rifle through your papers in abstract, dr. wallace. that could take a while. because in fact, there is still no science or data at all after two months of these lockdowns have done to halt the spread of the virus.oc sorry. we wish it was otherwise. you hate to think of all of the people suffering for no reason, but it is true. he states that lockdown early and aggressively are no better off today on average then states that never locked down at all. it's a fact. that's the data you are talking about. and by contrast, there is an awful lot of science and data that going outside is vital to your health. and has been for 100 years, we have known that. exercising outdoors, getting vitamin d from the sun makes you healthier and less vulnerable to

coronavirus. it also spreads for a less easily outdoors than it does indoors. this is not speculation, it is fact. of the largest study of the subject ever done looked at 318 separate coronavirus infections in places where the coronavirus spread outward to other people. what did it find? it found that 370 out of 318 customers, that's 99.7%, the infection spread indoors, not outdoors, indoors. and that's where dr. science and data on msnbc claims you must remain. so no, cnn and msnbc are not bringing you science and data, they are peddling panic and reckless moral judgment, and it is having an awful effect on the country. this e illustrates the results come in to a staten island grocery store showing a woman attacked by other customers were not wearing a mask. >> [bleep] you. [bleep] you.

[bleep], [bleep]. >> get out! >> [bleep] lose. loser. >> get out. >> tucker: you hate to see americans treating each other like that. but multiply what t you just saw by an entire country, and you get a sense of what the relentless flow of lies has done to people's minds. and now we have science and data on the subject, a new survey from the census bureau found that more than one-third of all americans now showing signs of exide i.d. or depression, or both. and you think the most fearful people would be the ones most at risk. that's people over 80. but just the opposite turns out to be true. younger people are more miserable, the younger, the more miserable. the most miserable group of people at all our americans under 30, and that group, look at the science and data, face ni risk of dying from the virus. nine. the people on television have lied to them, and it is wrecking

their lives. meanwhile, the people on television themselves are just fine. they don't seem afraid. andrew cuomo's brother works at cnn and had the virus a while back. do not bother to quarantine, and he told you that he didn't. he got in his car and drove to his second home and wandered around with no mask on. then he went back on television and shouted at you for not wearing a mask. in michigan over the past weekend,d, governor gretchen whitmer's to violate the orders by traveling across the state. when the marina told him he could not put the vote in the water, he let them know that his wife was the governor. don't you know who i am? he got caught, and people hate that from their leaders and they should. and when confronted, governor whitmer tried to claim that it never happen. she dismissed the whole thing as an internet hoax, but it was not a hoax. she was lying. now she is saying it was all some kind of joke. yet, pretty funny.

but if you want to know what the people on television think of you, and think of their own prescriptions for you, and if you want to know what all the y huffing and puffing in the moralizing in the judging you is real, watch this clip. it's from msnbc. >> are the people not worried about it? now their own personal safety? >> i have not met anybody who is. people felt like the supreme court made the decision that it was time to open up. you can see. nobody is wearing them, nobody is -- including on the camera. okay. >> half the crew is not wearing them. >> striking images. >> tucker: busted. it turns around, hassled some guy in a packers jersey, oh, that guy is not wearing a mask, and he says, your cameraman is not wearing a mask, dumbo, you fraud. they are frauds. remember that the next time they tell you that you are moral. laura logan host of laura

agenda, you have been on television a a very long time. so you know this. and if you say something on tv, people take it seriously and is amplified by the media. you have to work to be responsible and fact-based in the claims you make, don't you think? >> i do think so, tucker. but i tell you what, i sat was something much more basic even then that which is how about just doing your job as a journalist. the one at that thing is that we have to do is look at the whole context of something, right? so if you selectively take one piece of the story, like in this case, people are not wearing masks, so people are not social distancing, and you only focus on that, what else are you leaving out? what are you ignoring? some of those things you mention, but there is much more as well. no one is talking about the fact that one covid death does not mean that you are not causing a whole lot of other deaths

through those prevention measures. look at the statistics, doctor specializing in cancer, talking about all the patients who are not being diagnosed, who are not getting surgery. who are not getting treatment, i spoke to cardiologist today. all of them said that they have patients who are dying at home, who they are too afraid to come to the hospitals. that is a direct consequence of what you're talking about, what you hear on television when you are isolated at home is what you respond to. and people believe that they are dgoing to die if they go to the hospital, so they die alone at home. if you look at mood elevating drugs, prescriptions for those are through the roof, so people are getting depressed. and that is everybody talking ctout the fact that suicide rates are up, and you don't see as many headlines about that as you do on television. and one of the most significant things that so many doctors and nurses and health care professionals have said to me is that we are not talking about the devastation that the lockdowns are doing to the health care system itself.

if so i find it extraordinary that people keep talking about a second wave and the danger of whatav happens in the fall, but nobody is talking about the decimating health care system. hospitals are laying off nurses. they are laying off doctors.ur they are not contributing to 401(k)s. and at the same time, you have all of the illnesses that people have that are not being treated that arere just backing up. there is a fallacy here that seems to define the press coverage, which is that if you don't prevent every single covid death, somehow you are a mass murderer and an irresponsible human being. and that it's just not true, or that you don't care about your personal safety, we are no longer talking aboutut herd immunity or viral attenuation, which doctors can tell you about. they tell me about it every dayt that is viruses replicate comedy weekend. so as we are heading into the fall and the summer, where viruses as you pointnd out, they don't survive as long in the sunshine, every virus is like that.

doctors talk about it constantly. and i was in the ebola epidemic, a disease that killed almost 100% of the people who get eight did not last very long in the sun. it also lasted more and was more deadly indoors. so what about that? that's what journalists are not talking about. that is the full context. >> tucker: that is such a smart point. and they are cherry picking fact in order to forward an agenda, and it is irresponsible. thank you for that announcement. i appreciate it. well, for years now, if you have watched, you know this. the primary agenda on cnn has not been recording the news. that is obvious. it is something very different. it is dividing america, finding new and inventive ways to split the population into tiny little categories by skin color, nationality,, political party, coronavirus has given scan and new opportunities to do this, and not just cnn, but all the

media outlets that function with the people in charge. here is a fact. coronavirus is significantly more deadly for men then it iss for women. that is science.nd and maybe it should not be a surprise. men have shorter life expectancy is, and things killed them. but for cnn, the fact would not do, because it did not divide people. you cannot make people hate one another, so here's what they tweeted instead. this is a verbatim quote, the novel coronavirus seems to be more deadly for men, but in many other ways, women are bearing the brunt of the pandemic. and the majority of health care workers are women, but they get paid 28% less than men do." hard to believe that that is real, but it is. according to cnn, men are dying a much larger numbers, not a gas, a fact, but it is women who are hardest hit and sexism is the cause, probably your sexism. that's not reporting.

it's an effort too divide that population to keep you afraid and bewildered so that they can do what they will. just so you know. and they do it every day. while, democrats are using this crisis to try to impose something called mail-in voting. they claim that it is safe because voter fraud never happens. you have heard newsmen make that claim. that is a lie. and we have the proof. and we will talk the owner of a new martial arts society, defined the governor by starting classes tomorrow. that straight ahead. t♪ now, simparica trio simplifies protection.

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♪ >> tucker: a lot of people in this country have been suffering through this pandemic. but many of the most ambitious politicians have treated the disaster as a massive opportunity. a chance to implement the political agenda all at once from immigration amnesty to massive censorship. you have probably experienced it. probably the biggest goal is to eliminate every remaining barrier to voter fraud in the country, and they claim to do that by enacting nationwide mail-in voting. the president tweeted this about mail-in voting. if there is no evidence that they will be substantially fraudulent, mailboxes robbed, ballot boxes forged, leaving out fraudulent signed. and sending ballots to millions of people, anyone in the state, no matter who they are or got their will one. followed up with professionals telling all theseta people, many of whom have never thought of voting before how and for whom to vote. this will be a rigged election.

no way. now for the first time ever, twitter.com, the company responded directly to one of the tweets. inserting a link below this one lto declare authoritatively tht the tweet was false. quote "get the thoughts about the mail-in ballot," and taken to a twitter news page, saying that trump makes substantiating claim that mail-in voting will lead to fraud. that is the official story, voting fraud never happens no matter what and it definitely won't happen with mail-in voting. you are hearing trusted news anchors tell you that, a lot. and they say it like they know it. and anyone who disagrees is a conspiracy, not a freak. they are lying. that is alive. and we know it is a lie, because fraud by mail-inau already happened. not speculating, have google,

look it up. ballot harvesting is a problem. ballot harvesting as a process where a third-party collects interns in ballots on behalf of another person. it's only possible with mail-in ballots. you can't do it with and pursing voting. and it varies from state to state, currently legal in 27 states, but they want to legalize it in all 50. and i wonder why. at the most coronavirus relief bill says that all states "shall permit a voter from designating anyone voted and sealed absentee ballot." the only restriction would be that ballot harvesters cannot be paid based on the number of ballots that they collect, but of course, you can easily evade that. paying a canvasser for their time, the distance they travel, that would be perfectly legal. so that sentence could change their country forever. the ways that it could invite fraud are obvious. think about it for ten seconds,

with unlimited ballot harvesting, no chain of custody, no limit on the amount of ballots that a single person can collect, going to people's homes, and they do in california. they pressure them to vote or to vote the right way. oro they help the person read through a ballot while judging -- nudging them on who to vote for. but they could ask or pay a person to turn over a blank ballot or trick them with an unsealed envelope, or simply throw away ballots that don't vote the right way. we're not saying that all of these methods are fraudulent or equally likely. probably preventing some of them with safeguards. but the point of this coming universal mail-in voting with ballot harvesting, massively expands the potential for voter fraud. and it makes a mockery of the secret ballot. i don't care what twitter tells you, that's true. it is obvious. and by the way, it has been documented. in the past decade, most battles

over voter fraud have shown in i.d. to vote, but in some ways that is a distraction paired we should have voter i.d. laws, but that's not the real issue. in 1998 report described absentee ballot fraud as the "tool of choice for those who want to steal an election." it's not a theoretical risk. actual voter fraud has happenedd despite what they tell you all over the country. in north carolina it was i republicans who did it. a republican victory in an congressional race was overturned after it was the politicalt operatives were collecting blank or incomplete ballots and turning them in. in new jersey in 2013, not an 1813, but to 2013, the councilwoman was paying operatives of door-to-door after that ballots were distributed telling people who to vote for and offering them $50. of texas has had multiple prosecutions for harvesting.

why don't they mention that? in 2016, commissioner won a local election by just 16 votes. and later convicted of illegally assisting people in filling out absentee ballots. so a new election had to be ordered and they lost. and ballot harvesting fraud involving political operatives who exploit thet vulnerable. that often means homebound individuals who are too confused to realize that their votes are stolen. you don't think this happens? oh, yes, it does. ask anybody who has covered an election. in california, ballot harvesting is already totally unrestricted. in the midterms, last cycle, 2018, a voter register in orange county describing people dropping off hundreds of ballots at a time. hundreds. 250,000 boats appeared from previously inactive voters who had not voted in at least three years. senate republican candidates were leaving on election night

only to lose weeks later thanks to harvested ballots that were counted weeks later. and this reveals what the real agenda is behind mail-in voting. it's not the improvement in the ballot box. we have had this system in place for 240 years. it is about power. it always is. abas with illegal immigration, e relentless efforts to instill race hatred, that you see every day. democrats saying that hurting america will make it easier for them to get power and keep power permanently. and breaking news, as we speak, nancy pelosi over on msnbc pushing for additional mail-in voting. we are finding that out right now. someone in the control room is watching. outside the council for americans public trustees and attorney general in the state of nevada, joining us tonight. thank you so much for coming onh so you have seen some of this firsthand. to telln us how we should feel

about mail-in ballots and vote harvesting. >> this is a game about winningg elections and gaining power. and here are my swing state, we have a lot of very close elections and you are seeing videos of thousands of ballots that are piled up in apartments, trash cans, hallways, and this is all because we are doing our first mail-in ballot election in the history of our state all under the cloak of the pandemic, of course. and the democrats sued a democratic county, clark county, the greater las vegas in order to get all of these extra things that they want to make sure that they can get their wish list. and what do you think turned out on the latestnk thing? lo and behold, they agreed to all of these conditions in return for the democrats to get out of the way and let this preliminary election go down. and what did they get? they d got inactive voters,

200,000 of them were mail ballots all across the greater las vegas area. and we have no way to know if these are going to lead to massive voter fraud, and they continue to sue to get rid of signature verifications and to enact the california style ballot harvesting right here in nevada. >> tucker: i assume that they call you racist. that's what they call you when you oppose there power grabs. but i'm wondering if there is any way to stop it at this point. it seems like they just come out of nowhere and are overwhelming the media and the system with demands for this. >> i think it is important to raise attention and continue to show, like this video is the reason that we are talking about nevada voter fraud. otherwise, you are right. we would have been ignored when we say that things are going on here when voters all over southern nevada are trying to get on twitter and facebook and

say, i'm getting all of these ballots and my house and people that have not lived here in ten years, so we do need to raise the attention and put pressure on the secretary of state and the local registrars to stop the practice. the interesting thing about this, tucker, the democrat registrar in clark county said, i don't want to mail-in inactive voters, we approach them, because the post office says they don't live at this address. what happened? his county commission, almost all democrats said, you are going to mail inactive voters. and he did it very begrudgingly. and egg on their face that this was right, and he said, where the ballots going to go, there is a postal worker that was quoted saying, i am seeing them everywhere. they are not secure, what is going to happen? we have an election in two weeks and it is incredibly important.

the big gain is the general election. we need to keep our eye on that. >> tucker: people have so little faith in the system remaining, this will eliminate it.th it will divide the country. thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you. >> shannon: america's graduating seniors, maybe just one in your house is entering the worst job market, probably in our lifetime. some of them just sent the president a letter with a simple suggestion for how to help them navigate the job market. stopping them from reporting millions considerably. one of the students who wrote that letter joins us next. and breaking news tonight in the tragic abuse case caught on camera at a michigan nursing home. it is horrible. the developments just coming in. we will have them straight ahead. ♪ bottom line is,

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>> tucker: at the coronavirus pandemic >> tucker: the coronavirus pandemic has wounded the country, but not stopping this spirit of the nation, elon musk space act will attempt to the manned space flight by a private company. a big story. trace gallagher has the latest on that. >> the mission is called demo 2, the first time in history that a commercial aerospace company has endeavored to carry humans in space. the spacecraft is called crew dragon, built to carry seven astronauts, this time just two. lift off the issues for 30

eastern time tomorrow afternoon from historic launch pad 39a, the same starting point for numerous shuttle missions and the moon landing in 1969. but because the falcon nine rocket that will carry crew dragon is 230 feet tall, it had toad be retrofitted a bit. and after lift off when it separates, instead of falling into the ocean, it will reenter the atmosphere and attempt to land on a spacex drone ship. nasa says it will take it 9 minutes to reach orbit, and 19 hours to dock at the international space station where astronauts will join the iss team for between 30 and 119 days. at which point, the astronauts will reboard and point it back towards earth and splashed down in the atlantic though old fashion way. the hope is to use crew dragon at least two or three times. right now the weather at kennedy space center is pretty much 50/50. if itdy does not fly tomorrow, d

the next window is saturday afternoon at 3:22, and then sunday at 3:00. nasa and spacex also believe that this is the first step inun getting back to the moon. hopefully by 2024. and then on to mars. tucker. >> tucker: it's pretty amazing. trace gallagher, thank you for that. america'suc newly graduated seniors are in trouble, if you know, you are aware of this. an average debt load of $30,000. it will be competing in the job market they are about to enter with 40 million americans who just lost their jobs. the situation for young americans is dire. maybe the most in our lifetime. that's why 30 u.s. college student organizations just sent a letter to the president of the united states with a simple suggestion for how to help them. put a pause on companies that are reporting foreign workers to take jobs that they might have. canceling hundreds of thousands of h1b and o ppv says.

these are the ones allowing foreign workers to take jobs that could be given to new american college graduates. simple idea. all of her crowbar it of the san diego students. all of her, thank you so much for coming on. let me just say how sorry i am for you and people in your class entering into a job market like this. it's really tough. so explain what you think this letter will achieve and white can helplp you. >> so this letter is coming at a very strategic time in the administration, and just about a month ago i think all must have the day president announced an executive order essentially banning immigration across the board. but then the very next day, me and many other graduates were made to see that some of the most egregious foreign worker visas were excluded from this immigration ban. so essentially, just giving a signal to the administration

letting them know that there is an appetite especially among what young likely voters to take care of the egregious abuse that is displacing american graduates and professionals across the board. >> tucker: that's exactly right. these are not strawberry picking jobs. these are farm jobs. a lot of these are white-collar jobs, and you can imagine exactly who in the administration was keeping it in place and who took the call from tim cook over at apple to keep them in place. do you think that you can make the difference by appealing directly to the president? >> i think given the nature of the time period that this is coming out, the president is expected to announce new measures ons immigration ban in the coming week, even. so hopefully the timing is not lost on the administration, it is a very strategic timing and that the letter is coming out. >> tucker: you are in the position. s you are a college student will be entering the job market, say

a prayer. how do you feel personally abour the fact that the u.s. government is allowing white collar jobs that you could take to begin your life to go to for nationalist? >> personally i find it unconscionable, especially since it was an essential foreign policy, rather, domestic policy prescription from the president even during his time as a candidate back in 2016, so american patriots going back to the 1990s and even further on have repeatedly sound the alarm on the guest worker abuse that is displacing the american workers. so it is puzzling to see almost four years into an administration that this is an area where action has not been taken decisively. >> tucker: because the president who i think is in favor of stopping these visas w was talked out of it by again, you can imagine. but let me ask you, do you feel like you have been duped a little bit? herere you go to college and you assume all this debt and you

study and do get out, and you find that they are giving away jobs to college graduates from other countries? >> of course, and given the gross tuition paid by international students and things like that, there is a conflict of interest when it goes to american universities selling out their own graduates. and this is an issue across the board for amount -- american politics paid what is best for the market in the gdp is not necessarily always what is best for the american worker or the american college graduate. it seems like there is an incredible lack of incision on issue. >> tucker: i think you are exactly right. and the higher education lobby is a driving force behind this atrocity and they should be called out. thank you so much for coming on tonight. >> thank you so much, tucker. it is an honor. a >> tucker: new details on that horrifying video we should do friday of a beating, and horrible beating that took place in a nursing home, a 20-year-old

man punching a 75-year-old veteran in the face repeatedly. we will tell you the backdrop behind that video after the break. ♪

♪ >> tucker: this pandemic did not cause the appalling state of so many nursing homes in the country, it simply exposed a tragedy that has been ignored for far too long. just minutes ago, new developments out of michigan in the horrifying video we showed you friday from the westwood nursing center in detroit, that is the place where a 20-year-old called jaden hayden beat a 75-year-old man repeatedly in the face.ac just minutes ago we pressed authorities and asked them whether westwood nursing center

is able to safely isolate the cases. we were told "this is an open investigation and we cannot comment." it turns out one of governor gretchen whitmer's orders order them to transfer coronavirus patients into hub societies. and the young man was in a facility specifically because he tested positive for coronavirus. so how did a 20-year-old, clearly a volatile and imbalanced 20-year-old with the virus wind up in a nursing home in the gretchen whitmer state? a michigan health official tells us that he was not on the list of the state's hubs. so that is true, how did jaden hayden get there? we are trying to figure it out, because it is worth knowing. we welcome john james comer republican candidate for senate in michigan. thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you for having me back. >> tucker: i cannot imagine how to have a clearly imbalanced

20-year-old tested positive for the coronavirus wind up in a nursing home, how does that happen? >> it is appalling, and that's what happens when you folks who have never had the experience with lives in their hands making decisions. the elections are not consequential, which is why having somebody like me represent michigan with the experience protecting americans who is dedicated to protecting the vulnerable. i can imagine any more vulnerable than seniors during the coronavirus. the fact that there was a 20-year-old in a nursing facility amongst seniors is -- >> tucker: especially because the michigan residents were not allowed to do buying carpet, and buying paint, congregating with their loved ones, going to church. you can go to get liquor, and an abortion, that is it. how did she miss this? >>di i have no idea. and apparently it is under

investigation, right, tucker, i think that it is absolutely chilling, especially when you consider 42% of all deaths nationwide are to seniors in nursing homes. we have to protect the seniors, there is no excuse, and even when you look at places like new york, new jersey, california, these are areas that have seen the error inn their ways. and we have to do everything we can to protect the seniors and put them in situations where everyone is lumped in with a potential for covid, we have to fight, tcf, the suburban showplace, we have facilities to take care of people who are hurting. but we have to take care of our seniors and leaving them vulnerable like this is the wrong way to go about it. >> tucker: especially the captive elderly who cannot be visited by their loved ones. you never hear politicians talk about it. they clearly don't care. t it is upsetting. thank you so much for joining us tonight. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me, tucker. >> tucker: the state of

new york continues to suffer to strangle under the repressive lockdown order. one business owner plans to defy governor andrew cuomo tomorrow by reopening. he joins us next.

♪ >> tucker: for more than two months, americans by and large did what they were told. they closed their businesses, they stayed inside, canceled the religious services, didn't visit their parents or grandparents in

nursing homes. they put their trust in their leaders. their leaders claim that lockdowns are based on science and data and were mandatory because they save lives.y it becomes clearer every day that that trust we have in our leaders were misplaced. in exchange, americans lost their rights and still being denied their rights were no defensible reason whatsoever. now increasingly,ht americans ae responding by reclaiming thoseow rights. owns a jiu-jitsu academy in malton, new york, right about three hours north of the city. he says he's resuming classes tomorrow no matter what governor andrew cuomo says. thanks so much for coming on tonight. so you are following in a succession of people around the country who have defied governors and the band significantly punished for it. are you ready to be punished for doing so? >> what i'm doing here and in no way, shape, or form am i trying

to entice the government. two months ago, they ordered the lock down and i've done everything in my power to maintain that pure virtual classes, absolutely done everything wee can as business owners around the country who own martial arts academy's. with that being said, i think it's timebu especially in my lol looking me were the curve has been beyond platinum, i think it's time we should reopen with property or precautions. >> tucker: you are far up in the state, as far up as synecdoche, always. what has the virus been like in your town of multi-new york? >> it hasn't really hit hard. we did a good job of containing it. i didn't come up with is on my own, worked with medical confessionals to come up with a preopening preopening strategy and plan and they agree with me. we've been working diligently, they've done a great job. right now, there's not much to say for this.

there's a couple of people in the hospital i know for sure in their specific area and i think it's time for our chance to reopen. >> tucker: how is your business doing after months of lockdown? >> you know, that's the hard part. i've been doing this for two-thirds of my life and i didn't get into this to become a billionaire.. i do it because i love it. every jiu-jitsu academy it run around the country doing the same thing. erturn on my facebook feed and i see another gym owner, jiu-jitsu academy, martial arts, boxing, closing their doors permanently. it would be arrogant for me to think that can't be me one month from now. it's hit hard. i couldn't imagine two months ago being at this point now. it's absolutely unbelievable. we just reached a point where it's time to start making things happen. >> tucker: so this is a virus that hits people who are immunosuppressed, unhealthy, especially hard. it can kill them. does it strike you as strange

that the authorities, politicians are making it harder for people to exercise and get in better shape? >> i do find that strange and without a doubt what we do is one of the greatest things you couldd possibly do for your immune system in terms of exercise,, fitness, in terms of self-defense. it is shocking to me. i can understand it -- in the beginning, i had no knowledge of what this was or what it was going to be, so in the beginning i could understand. let's separate, reduce some contact. i had no prediction of the future. at this point, you know, people need to get back to their lives and need to resume some sense of normalcy. i have 9-year-old kid suffering from depression in my kid's class. military vets that have ptsd that use jiu-jitsu to overcome this ptsd. we need it. we need it but i'm willing to do whatever it takes to allow these people to come back to my gym, whether that means no contact --

we have a plan set in place for maximum safety, super strict precautions. it's a specialized service. that's the other thing too. it's not like walmart where i'm shoulder to shoulder with people with no restrictions. i'm letting onepl person in at a time taking temperatures, filling out questionnaires, taking the most contact martial art in the world and making it no contact. for me to not able to open it and other martial art academies to not open, it breaks my heart, blows my mind. >> tucker: you are so much more thoughtful than the politicians directing your life. there are a lot of smart small business owners, that's what i've learned the past couple of months. godspeed. good luck tomorrow. >> thank you, talker. appreciate it. >> tucker: man. that's the kind of man that governors have been coming down on really, really hard. we are goinge to be following what happens in his life going forward. we are out of time tonight.

wish we weren't, but we are. that means, though, almost 9:00 p.m. eastern and it's almost time for the great sean hannity out of new york. >> sean: i was very interested in that segment. everything you said about the martial arts instructor was dead on. as you know i've been training for seven years. i have not stopped my training. but there is no contact, like usual. none of n this, in other words. but a lot more core, no grappling, obviously. it's been great. doing it outside, doing it on cement instead of a gym. it's working. >> tucker: got to be outside. it's good for you. >> sean: welcome to "hannity." buckle up tonight, tracking multiple big stories all across the country. what is a bizarre confrontation with a man in central park, update about her job status but will also show how an irate mom in one staten island grocery store angrily