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retailers will have to adapt. that means value at a discount. back to you guys. >> sandra: christina, thank you. that's address. >> ed: i'm going to take tomorrow off, but i'll see you on monday. >> sandra: ugh! will see a monday. have a safe weekend. ed, thank you. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: we begin with this fox news alert. chaos erupted in minneapolis as protests have taken a violent turn. demonstrators clashed with police, who fired back with tear gas and rubber bullets. the protests raged for a second straight night. stores looted, building set on fire, as outrage grew over the death of george floyd, a white police officer knelt on floyd's neck for 9 minutes. floyd died later in custody. >> basically, the military need
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to come out here and protect us that dominic against those that are supposed to protect us, man. that's what i'm here for. that's the cement. >> it's almost an everyday thing, it seems like. sitting at home posting on social media is not going to do anything. it doesn't work without action. action is necessary, change is necessary. >> harris: new surveillance video is out, and it shows the moments before police pinned down george floyd. it does not appear to show that he resisted arrest, as police have claimed. the mayor of minneapolis is pleading with protesters to remain peaceful. >> why is the man who killed george floyd not in jail? if you had done it, or i had done it, we would be behind bars right now. and i cannot come up with a good answer to that question. >> harris: the four officers involved have all been fired.
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none charged at this time. the outrage is not unique to minneapolis. violent protests broke out in los angeles and memphis overnight, despite president trump expediting a federal investigation into floyd's death. you are watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, fox business anchor dagen mcdowell. attorney and fox news contributor emily compagno. fox news contributor jessica tarlov. and joining us, fox news contributor guy benson, host of "the guy benson show" on fox news radio. he is "outnumbered" in the center box. great to see everybody today. the six hey, harris. >> harris: dagen, i will start with you on where we are with the protests overnight, this heating up. the calls for justice. >> dagen: i'm not going to call into question anybody's expression of rage, because that is what people feel. it is unfortunate what we've seen. it's not the first time it
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damages communities. i think when we talk about justice people want to see all four officers charged criminally in some way. with the fbi looking at this as a federal crime, certainly emily can speak to this, but the justice department and prosecutors would have to reach a pretty tough standard of proof or a burden of proof to establish that an officer not only was committed murder or was accessory to a murder, but that they would have to establish an officer acted with excessive force and also willfully violated someone's constitutional rights. unfortunately, in the past, those charges have not been brought. these federal civil rights charges. such in the case of the new york police officer who killed eric
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garner, an unarmed black man, in a deadly choke hold. that was in 2014. there was a fatal shooting in sacramento, another unarmed black man. end u.s. park officers killed an unarmed motorist in 2017. when it comes to justice, that will mean criminal charges, but potentially federal. >> harris: you know, guy benson, before we toggle again to the legal -- and, dagen, thank you very much, and emily, i will get you in a second -- i know how video can change the game. we saw it with ahmaud arbery here recently. this is a drumbeat of evidence gathering that citizens are doing, and of course there are questions with the ahmaud arbery case whether the third person who charged who took the video a citizen watching it. what do you see in the reaction we are seeing now? if they were not the hope for justice, as dagen laid it out,
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because we can clearly see it with our own eyes? >> guy: we wouldn't see this reaction absent the video. there is no question about that. one of the chilling elements of this story is you can't help but think and wonder how many times something like this has happened in the past, where there were not ubiquitous iphones present recording what happened. where it becomes a he said, he said, and the other side of that equation is deceased, unable to speak for themselves anymore. how much of this stuff has been swept under the rug? i think that's a really scary thing. what is particularly disturbing about this case, i forced myself to watch the video. i didn't want to watch it. >> harris: it's hard to watch the whole thing. >> guy: it's important to say most police officers are wonderful and they work very hard to put their lives on the land to protect us, but some of these decisions seem like a bang-bang call where a cop may
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feel threatened. this was an officer putting his knee on a man's neck as he begged for his life for 9 minutes, and his life was slowly drained from him, while passersby begged. again, for the police officer to just let him breathe. watch that play out as a horrific thing to witness. >> harris: you know, jessica, guy is right. it's 9 minutes, it felt like an eternity watching it. i've seen interviews with the store owners and his employees who called the police on george floyd, because he had passed a fake $20, they said. what played out in front of theirs was horrific. those passersby, jessica, and i'm certain you watch the tape, too -- >> jessica: yeah. >> harris: some of them are crying. >> jessica: one of them was on cnn last night with chris cuomo. he stayed on air for about 20 minutes and was crying the entire time, talking about the level of restraint that he is a young black men had to show to not escalate the situation where
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it would either be worse for george floyd -- obviously paid the ultimate price for what might have been a counterfeit $20 -- but the rest of the people surrounding the scene that were, as guy mentioned, calling out to the police and translated when he was clearly saying. "i can't breathe." i'm not alone in thinking about eric garner at the moment, as dagen said, that he was in a deadly choke hold in 2014. these issues need to be addressed thoughtfully and swiftly. we've gone through this in the last year. think about the outrage over botham jean, now we have this over george floyd. new cyclist talking about it, everybody was talking about in their home, especially the african-american community. but this is why black people in america have been telling us over and over again, that you pay attention for a little while and nothing substantive changes. not just in officers maybe not
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paying the price and terms of getting charged, in terms of societal change. i think about what colin kaepernick was telling elvis, why he was taking a knee. he was taking a need for george floyd and all the george floyd s who may not have been caught on camera. someone wasn't around to see it. i hope as a society we will be paying more attention to the message of colin kaepernick, and certainly respecting more of the movement that he was setting there, saying that there is a systemic problem in the system that does not mean all officers are bad, but that black people are dying at the hands of white people. and if it weren't for cell phone camera, we might not even know what was happening. >> harris: emily, you heard dagen lay out the justice bar, if you will. but the difficulty was proving these cases. how will the video make a difference, and what do you see as justice in this case? should, as the mayor of minneapolis said, should the
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person who killed george floyd be charged today immediately? should he be in jail? >> emily: right. that's a great question, harris. my answer it ties in with all my colleagues have been talking about. to dagen's point, what is justice here? from a legal standpoint, we know that juries have held officers accountable, that they have confirmed and convicted on the charge of murder of her past like this. we have botham jean, that jessica mentioned, the guy killed unarmed in his own apartment when an officer mistook his apartment for hers. mcdonald, to guy's point about the video, 13 months after he was shot 16 times, dashcam video emerged and the officer was convicted of murder. and we have the person killed by the car was driving away. we have also had a lot where there there've been charges reduced to negligence or manslaughter, or there have been
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acquittals. it begs the larger question to me, to jessica's point about the pattern, we have these isolated incidents of names that we know in the national conversation. but the argument is that they are not isolated. that it's a pattern. that this has been institutionalized. in fact, that the institution has been built on this subjugation. for there to be true justice achieved, there needs to be systemic changes beyond just these individual prosecutions. >> harris: and how does establishing a pattern play out in court? the president has said the fbi, the doj are looking into this. that puts it in a different type of light, i would think. a brighter light. but how does that play out exactly, if you can prove a pattern? is that even necessary? >> i think that plays out in a few different ways. first of all, when the doj investigates individual departments, you can have emergence of pattern proof, and there needs to be a reform
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implemented in that specific department. i sort of meant in that larger context of criminal justice reform. if there is this pattern that citizens talk about that we all see, perhaps the law should reflect that. the articulated standard that dagen did such a great job of talking about, that willful negligence, the willfully violated constitutional rights and the excessive force. if that's not enough, if that's too high of a bar, perhaps we should re-regulate and lower that standard. is that what we need? the answer, i think, lies in complete encumbrance of reform and only starts in the lines of communication. right now we see what's happening in minneapolis. that is being reduced, you could argue, to "riots." but maybe the larger conversation is, how do we ensure this doesn't happen again in this larger, broader context? bringing in laws and incarceration and policy and police training and reform and the like. >> harris: that's what i was pointing to. >> dagen: harris, can add one quick thing? >> harris: go ahead.
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>> dagen: there has been widespread condemnation of what had happened to george floyd from police organizations. that the houston police chief, art acevedo, is also the head of the major city chiefs association. he said, "i haven't heard anybody justify this." he is like, "it is unfathomable." he told "the wall street journal" this. "it is unfathomable for an offer officer to put a knee into a handcuffed suspect neck," is a video show, which cost george floyd has life. >> harris: guy come he pointed this out, and it is so true. this paints all of those who are on the job today wearing blue. and we need them. a society of laws and of peace. this breaks all of the, including police officers trying to do their jobs today. it breaks us. >> guy: is awful. i don't think it's possible to
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watch that video and not feel heartbroken and outraged. as i pointed out, it shouldn't taint the entire profession of law enforcement. when he wears socks depicting police as pigs, that's not a fair message. when we see what plays out in the streets of minneapolis and other cities, i think people are 100% justified and angry, to protest. they have every right in every reason to do so. but it's also important to draw a distinction between protests, righteous outrage, and on the other hand, rioting and looting. demanding changes in order here. going to a target and stealing a big-screen television and bring it home for yourself and letting for her to an autozone is completely inappropriate and counter productive. >> jessica: i know we have to go to commercial, it's important
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to not let the writing become the story in this. the story is george floyd, the police officer the cavalierly held -- >> harris: i'm going to interject here. if you want the writing not to become the story, remember what mlk did. you can grab just as much attention with peaceful protest. okay, we are going to scoot. president trump preparing to take aim at social media platforms. on the heels of twitter fact-checking him for the first time. what his proposed executive action could mean, and what other actions the administration may take. >> we have seen some extreme dog egregious actions by twitter, trying to single out the president's tweet, very truthful tweet. you have to ask yourself, what kind of political motivation was kind of political motivation was there? musica musica personal auto prem. learn more at libertymutual.com/covid-19. [ piano playing ]
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>> harris: president trump is expected to sign an executive order today aimed at curbing legal protections for social media companies, and it would make it easier for federal regulators to argue that companies like twitter, facebook, and google are suppressing free speech when they move to suspend users or delete posts. this comes two days after the president ripped reuters for applying fact checks to his tweets with first time, and as the administration looks into forming a commission to look at a complaint that social media companies are biased against conservatives. meanwhile, facebook chief mark zuckerberg weighed in on the idea of policing content on social media with this. >> we have a different policy, i think, than twitter on this. i just believe strongly that facebook shouldn't be the arbiter of truth of everything that people say online. i think in general private
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companies probably shouldn't be, especially these platform companies, shouldn't be in a position of doing that. >> harris: i do can catch the rest of that interview right here on fox news at 2:00 p.m. eastern. emily, i come to you. what are the legalities of forming a commission and taking a tougher stand as the federal government versus these companies? >> emily: right, that is going to, i think, uncover a lot of information that citizens are really interesting end. what are the policies that these social media companies, specifically twitter, how are they in preventing it? i want to take a step back for a second, if i may come and talk about the commute patience decency act that is the subject of all of this. there are sort of two frames of thought toward it. one is that it requires neutrality as a predicate for the immunity, meaning, if twitter wants to enjoy being immune from being considered a publisher, if he wants to be immune from being held liable for the content that users post, it has to be super neutral.
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the other school of thought is they can moderate as much as they want. no matter what, they will still be held immune. i think the truth actually lives in the fact that section 230 really empowered the social media companies to take novel ways of deleting bots, it comports with their policies to regulate what's on their platform. so, courts have held that they have immunity. courts have upheld this. the answer, by the way, was the subject of the social media summit that happened last july. all the stuff i said, although schools of thought, what that means, and the subject why a commission would be formed. that was all talked about at the social media summit in july, and that's with the executive order is expected to be based on. the conclusion is they are. the bottom line, guys, if we don't like the situation how it is, the answer is either changing regulation, which the courts don't construe that twitter has somehow change something and it doesn't fit in this law, or regulating itself
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in the market. this is a private company. it is publicly held, but as a private company. if people don't like it, start a new one. go to parlay. that's the argument. >> dagen: mark zuckerberg is taking the stance of, "facebook is the arbiter of twitte truth f everything." he's talking about congress removing that liability waiver they back to 1996. that we need to update the laws, perhaps? one issue is this has been a bipartisan issue. i go back to a story from -- i think it was on axios, from a year ago. listen to this, "health intelligence chairman adam schiff today joined a group of policymakers calling to reconsider the legal protections of floor afforded these technology platforms." the government is coming for them. this executive order might not do anything, but if you keep this up, if you've got some guy with a deep conservative bias who is on the censorship committee at twitter, you might
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have a problem, and it's going to be a problem for all the social media companies. >> harris: all right. twitter ceo jack dorsey responded to zuckerberg, by the way. let's pop that up on the stream, it's a quote. "this does not make us an arbiter of truth. our intention is to connect the dots of conflicting statements and show the information in dispute so people can judge for themselves. more transparency from us is critical so folks can clearly see the why behind our actions." be not, what your reaction beyonit tothat? >> guy: i think zuckerberg has largely correct, i'm looking forward to that interview with dana perino later today. there's a pandora's box been opened by twitter with their decision to fact-check president trump. there will now be endless questions about who gets fact-checked when, why, who makes those decisions. we've already seen conservatives online finding some of the folks at twitter tasked with this job who have posted extremely
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anti-conservative on their own twitter feeds, comparing the trump administration to literally nazis. these are some of the people we've seen on the committee for integrity at twitter. that creates a p.r. problem for twitter, and case in point, their very first fact-check of president trump, which was on mail-in voting and voter fraud, linked to a document they had put together which had a few arguable points, debatable points, and one or two factual errors in their own fact-check. >> harris: [laughs] >> guy: i think that's a problem for them. i'm not sure they necessarily fully thought through the implications of what they've done, which seems to be the response and the backlash against president trump. >> harris: guy, i have to say, you are so gentle and filled with his back as you push back hard. have you seen anything like that? "let me slap you with my really nice pinky." [laughter] let me get this income is from
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"the wall street journal" editorial board. "any fact-checking can't help would be wildly inconsistent, and it will inevitably be attacked as arbitrary and partisan. all this means is that ceo jack dorsey is handing mr. trump evidence to prove his point that technology elites are out to get the president and his followers. watch and weep as public support weeps for government regulation of internet content, a fairness doctrine for social media." jessica? >> jessica: i agree largely with what everyone's been saying, and i would add to it that there is a concern then, if there are statements that are in fact-checked, is twitter tacitly saying those things are true when they might not be? there is big concern, as was brought up on the democratic side, that elizabeth warren and cory booker, for instance, calling it up for the breaking up of these technology companies. that is clearly what jack dorsey and meg zuckerberg and others are trying to avoid. but there is this argument that
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conservatives love to make about how they are censored. i went and looked at the facebook engagement data. the top four sites with the highest engagement, number one is fox news. you have the daily mail, then you have cnn and the daily wire, ben shapiro's site, for conservative millennials, i would say. it is false to say that conservatives are censored there. even just look at the fact that there was an appeal for twitter to take down president trump's tweets accusing joe scarborough of murdering an intern. b6 and i talked about this on the radio show, an he's written about this, as well. it's disgusting. the woman's husband has written to twitter, to the president come about this, saying, "please stop discarding the memory of my wife," and they didn't do anything. i don't see conservatives as victims here but i am concerned about the slippery slope of the fact-check function. >> dagen: conservatives were outraged about those tweets, too. if i'm not the president of the united states of america, and not jack dorsey.
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i'm just saying he wasn't censored for it, dig in. this tweets still exist accusing joe scarborough of murdering a woman. >> harris: socks is following, but we don't have time. we will let you go back and forth. i will scoot. the u.s. is hitting a grim milestone in the fight against covid-19. as the new poll shows just how many americans could choose not to take a coronavirus vaccine. that the next. ♪
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>> harris: the pandemic has claimed more than 100,000 american lives in just four months since the first case of coronavirus was confirmed in the united states. this, as a new ap poll finds only about half of u.s. adults say they would get a coronavirus vaccine if one were to suddenly become available. 31% say they are not sure
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whether they get it. a fifth of respondents say they would not. i want to bring in dr. nicole saphier, physician and fox news contributor. you are talking with patience, doctor, every day. what are they telling you are the reasons for why they would not get a vaccine, those who told you that? >> well, harris, president trump has initiated this operation warp speed, the modern day space race in the hunt for a vaccine to covid-19. the truth is we can't trade safety for speed. that is the biggest concern people are having right now. they want to make sure all the is are being dotted and the ts are being crossed. they don't want a step skip that would potentially create a harmful vaccine. that's why these clinical trials are so important. the bottom line is you don't want to rush it. the good news is they are working on it, there are over a dozen vaccines in the works right now, but the reality is we actually know it can spread the slow this virus. that's human behavior. we are not going to wait for a vaccine to save the day.
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those polls are not surprising to me. even though we have proven flu vaccines, less than 50% of american adults actually get the flu vaccine. i would anticipate similar numbers with the covid-19 vaccine once one becomes available. what i want to see is make sure it's safe, i want to make sure it works, and i want to make sure it's a vaccine for our elderly. because all through the sometimes actually with certain vaccinations. >> harris: what will that look like for you, doctor? what kind of timeline would be for you to say it works, it's safe? it's all of those things you just enumerated? >> well, you have in three phases of clinical trials, and the fda looks at it to see if they provide safety, efficacy, d long-term immunity. i'm to see once those come out. i get very excited when i hear about astrazeneca or moderna having their vaccine move into phase 2 and 3, but we're not
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there yet. i am poor people, we know more about this virus than we did a couple months ago. we knew 43% of the people who have died in the united states were in nursing homes. we need to continue to move forward, continue to open things up, but we need to protect our elderly and those who are immunocompromised. a vaccine is not going to be the saving grace. i want people to focus right on what they know. they know it's a respiratory droplets, they know it is potentially aerosolized. do the best you can to protect those that are vulnerable. >> harris: you know, guy benson, i want to get you in here. because i know you do a radio show every day, and coronavirus is one of those things that comes onto the landscape when we hit those milestones. people have a very emotional reaction. what are you hearing from your listeners about getting the vaccine? anything you want to ask the doctor? >> guy: of course it's emotional, 100,000 people dead. i know some folks in the media want to use that as a cudgel for political blame. i think after look at without wt
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number means. hopefully things are going better. my question for dr. saphier is of this. i have a few friends have gotten this disease. they recovered, thank god, and they have antibodies. they've taken that test. if you have antibodies in your system, if you are somebody who has recovered from covid-19, when there is a safe and effective vaccine hopefully very soon, do those people need to get that vaccine? or are they immune? >> that's a great question, guy. one a lot of people are thinking about. we still don't have proof those antibodies confer long-term immunity and we won't know that for a while. the going theory would be, if they have the presence of antibodies now, they would likely not need the vaccine. the whole purpose of the vaccine is for the body to develop antibodies. so, no, i would say they likely won't need a vaccine. again, asked me again in a few months when we have a vaccine and we have more information of whether or not those antibodies are any sort of immunity, short-term or long-term. >> harris: you know what i
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love about you? i mean, there are a lot of reasons why i love you, dr. saphier, but you are so open with it. you know what? come back to me when i know more." it's so true, we are on this roller coaster of information. glad you're along with us to help navigate. thank you, good to see you. >> thank you. >> harris: all right, the virtual couch is standing by for more. joe biden has set a date for when he hopes to announce his running mate. the name said to be under consideration as he gives details on what he's looking for in avp. ♪ here's record-breaking news for veterans. va mortgage rates have dropped to near 50-year lows. newday usa can help you refinance your mortgage and save thousands a year. newday's va streamline refi makes it fast and easy because there's no income verification, no appraisal, and no out of pocket costs. i urge you to call newday usa now.
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looking for, saying, "i think i need somebody who is, in fact, simpatico with me. both in terms of personality as well as substance. that means that they don't have to agree with me on everything, but they have to have the same basic approach to how we handle the economy and how we handle everything." biden has previously vowed to choose a woman. among those under consideration are on the screen in front of you now, take a peek. among those, 42020 rival, senators kamala harris and elizabeth warren, amy klobuchar. jessica, i come straightaway to you. okay, you know it chemically make myself off, we have some breaking news. the mayor of minneapolis, jacob frey, has called to the national guard to come into his city. we do know that. let's watch. >> if you are feeling that sadness, and that anger, it is not only understandable, it's
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right. it is a reflection of the truth that our black community has lived. while not from lived experience, that sadness must also be understood by our nonblack communities. to ignore it, to toss it out, would be to ignore the values we all claim to have. that are all the more important during a time of crisis. i believe in minneapolis. i love minneapolis. in believing in our city, we must believe that we can be better than we have been. we must confront our shortcomings with both humility as well as hope. we must restore the peace so
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that we can do this hard work together. i want to know what george's girlfriend, courtney, said about george. he was all about love and all about peace. he did not receive that love and that peace from our officers on the night of may 25th. but we can still honor him by practicing those values during a time of great strife. that is the task ahead of us. at this time when one crisis is sandwiched against another, this could be the marker. this could be a point in time when, several years from now, we can look back to know that we rose to right the wrongs of the
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past. not just with words, but with action. we will be working with community. we need to be working with community to sort through those set of action steps. a time when we pick up the reb rebelrubble, the glass, and foud peace in our hearts. not an ignorant peace, but i know we can one, where we can truly make change possible. so, in the coming days, and all out effort to restore peace and security in our city. i've authorized a command structure that allows chief arredondo to utilize resources, personnel from other jurisdictions. we have requested assistance from the state, and we are
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thankful to the governor for the support as well as from the state patrol. this is about protecting community. this work is about protecting infrastructure needed to get through this pandemic together. our communities need these assets. especially during a pandemic, our communities need grocery stores for food. we need banks for cash. we need pharmacies for needed medication. let's hold these communities dear by doing right by them, and by safeguarding them, and these community assets that we know they need especially during a pandemic. we need to offer radical love and compassion that we all have
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sympathies are with you in this traumatic, tragic moment of grief. i also stand here to grieve with my community today. with all the black people, all throughout this country, all throughout america, and right here in minneapolis. we feel as if there was a knee on all of our collective necks. a knee that says black life does not matter. to the institutions that dictate what happens in this culture and society. i am a part of this system to help, to take that knee off of our necks, and that is the work
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that i will be doing. as we stand here grieving yet another loss of black life, a senseless, tragic loss of black life, i really don't have many words, but i know that something's got to change. so, i am asking my colleagues, the mayor, and anyone else who is concerned about the state of affairs in our community to declare a state of emergency, declaring racism as a public
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health issue. until we named this virus, this disease that has infected america for the past 400 years, we will never, ever resolve this issue. to those who say bringing up racism is racist in and of itself, i say to you if you don't call cancer what it is, you can never cure that disease. so, in an effort to try and cure this disease, i am stating exactly what everyone else has witnessed, and that is racism. today is a sad day for
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minneapolis. it's a sad day for america. it's a sad day for the world. i want to remind all of the people that are in the streets protesting, you have every absolute right to be angry, to be upset, to be mad, to express your anger. however, you have no right to perpetrate violence and harm on the very communities that you say that you are standing up f for. we need peace and calm in our streets, and i am begging you for that calm. we will be working with black
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community leaders to develop and create a healing space at the sight of the third precinct, so people can grieve, express their concerns, their anger, in a safe and humane way. this is a tragic moment, and like mayor frey, i love the city of minneapolis. i have spent the last 41 years as a resident of this city. this is my home. we cannot allow outsiders or our own a neapolita minneapolitan ro
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destroy our city. we need to work together to make sure people have their voices heard in a safe manner. and that is my commitment. in the words of leroy williams, who was a first-hand eyewitness to mr. george floyd's terrible denies, "we've got to make a change, bruh." thank you. >> thank you, mayor frey. thank you, council vice president jenkins. i want to start first by saying that i'm absolutely sorry for the pain and the devastation and
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the trauma that mr. floyd's death has left on his family, his loved ones, and our community here in minneapolis, and certainly across the country and the world. i know that our community is in trauma, and that they are trying to find ways to heal. from the very beginning, i wanted to make sure and ensure we will continue to do that. that those who are wanting to express their first amendment rights and go through this healing process, that they will absolutely have that from me. that is a guarantee as your chief. with that being said, even prior to mr. floyd's death, we have had a community that has been in trauma for quite some time. what i will not allow as chief is for others to compound that trauma. if individuals, as occurred last night, are committing behavior and acts which are criminal and
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which are looting our businesses, as council vice president jenkins has mentioned are so vital to the health and vitality of our community, if they are eluding those stores, if they are robbing people of essential needs and services for themselves, for their families, and certainly in this pandemic, their loved ones, if they are setting buildings and structures on fire which are harming the safety of our elderly and our youth, i cannot allow that as chief. so, i know that there is currently a deficit of hope in our city. as i wear this uniform before you, i know that this department has contributed to that deficit of hope. but i will not allow to continue to increase that deficit by re-traumatizing those folks in our community. so, i am committed to making sure that we restore peace and security in our community. as mayor frey said, we are going to have a unified command
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system. we are going to have resources to make sure, again, that all parts of our city, from the phillips neighborhood to north minneapolis, to downtown, that all of our sections of our city have that. we want to continue to make sure that our community can come and gather in spaces too, again, to heal, to grieve and honor, certainly, of mr. floyd. but i cannot allow criminal acts to occur and threaten the safety and also, again, compound the trauma that already exists. i have been in constant munication with community leaders, members from our faith community, community healers, and as both mayor frey and council vice president jenkins have mentioned, they want to make sure we have that safe space for those folks to do that. we will continue to do that. again, i want to just acknowledge my condolences to mr. floyd, his family and
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friends. thank you. >> a few questions, i need to leave in a few minutes though. >> reporter: [inaudible] >> what we experienced, which was a different dynamic shift from the first evening of the demonstrations, there was a different tenor last night. there was a different group of individuals. i want to preface this, the vast majority of people who have come to gather have been doing peaceful things. but there was a core group of people who had really been focused on causing some destruction. certainly we saw some of the looting and setting fires. we were certainly prepared and terms of that immediate area, to provide for the safety. if any of you followed, of course, the events last night, the crowds got large and became more mobile. our number one priority is the preservation of life, so we
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wanted to make sure -- i think we were looking at that from those who are gathering peacefully in the area who are also being threatened, neighboring residents and also those businesses. there was a shift certainly occurred last night. >> reporter: in terms of people starting the looting of businesses, all of your social media right now -- [inaudible] >> we continue to fall that information, that intel, keeping the mayor briefed on that as we speak. i will say that it was clear to me also in hearing from our local community leaders that many of the people involved in the criminal conduct last night were not known minneapolitans to them. so, yes, there were certainly people involved in the activities last night who were not recognized as being here from the city. >> reporter: [inaudible]
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>> so, we did have some reports of injuries to some of our police officers. i'm happy to report that no significant injuries. there were some community members who are out there demonstrating who also suffered some minor injuries. again, fortunately no significant injuries that i am aware of. they are frey, in terms of a national guard request, he is the only person that can make that formal declaration. as he mentioned, he has had conversations with governor governor walz. >> reporter: [inaudible] >> well, one of the things i am very proud of also being born and raised here in the city, over the last several days i've been talking to many friends, family, and our broader community who have said they want to make sure, even though we are experiencing trauma and pain and grief in our city, they don't want to exacerbate that. they are going to be out there. you are going to start seeing
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more of our, again, community healers, faith leaders, our elders and even our youth. i think you will see a shift in that today. i am always hopeful, because it's the same community that has supported me throughout my career. >> reporter: [inaudible] >> yes. i have called to the governor and it's been requested. >> reporter: has there been a response back from him? >> of the governor and the state have been very helpful, but i would further direct -- i beliee they will be in contact shortly. >> reporter: would do you see businesses, the targets and the businesses that were alluded? alluded? have you had contact with any businesses? >> i
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