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with all and especially keep the people safe, i hope and pray that we do. we will have coverage all throughout the evening and all throughout the overnight tonight on the fox news channel. please stay with us. >> this is "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight. violence erecting in cities across the country. wheezy anger, some right of us, but lots of it is rated and out-of-control. lockdown has put 40 million americans now out of work and millions of others have been locked into their homes for weeks. you had a racially charged situation like the killing of george floyd in minneapolis, an sadly you have all the ingredients for a combustible night or two or three. we are covering this story throughout the hour from the la enforcement veterans that we trust local minnesota politicians, business owners, and we will break down the media 's handling of all of this.
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we begin tonight in minneapolis a city that finds itself under very tenuous curfew at this moment. mike tobin is on the ground tonight with the latest. set the scene for a. >> i will set the scene for you. minneapolis state patrol in the third precinct area, they were about to be in violation of the curfew order. they gave them that order, and little bit of an exchange of tear gas, a little bit of exchange and then we saw is 8:0, [inaudible] and the national guard back up. the numbers seem to grow. they grew in intensity.
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hours later, they backed all th way up. >> i'm going to get you back in a safe situation. mike, hold that thought. a lot of horns. okay, we've got you, mike. >> let me ask you a question. here out here. tell me what you're trying to get done. why the arrest of derek chauvin isn't enough for you. >> ivillage needed and i felt that at the end of the day, it' like we're not going to rest until they're all for our. >> what they did earlier, they shut the city down. and what they did, rubber bullets and tear gas, a lot of people are tired, they say enough is enough. we can only control so much. >> without the distraction, are
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you concerned? >> yesterday, just right next t the swat team and we looked at them, they put their guns on us. i'm not afraid, it's the principle. that is the reason why. >> mike, mike, i know it's hard to hear you, and it's hard to hear that gentleman you are interviewing, but we are going to attack check back with you i a few moments. maybe we can get a quieter shop there so we can hear it. i'm going to go to atlanta whic is quickly evolved into complet chaos. riots have broken out including outside cnn's headquarters, which was just breached by a protesters. we are live in atlanta and have the latest developments.
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we've been watching this for a couple of hours now, jonathan. what do you know? >> several blocks away from where all the mayhem was unfolding, this is something i've never seen in atlanta. i've lived in this town on and off since the early 1980s. this is a city that prides itself on its civil rights legacy. after the assassination of doctor martin luther king jr., instead of having rights had peaceful demonstration. by people and white people locking arms and marching in solidarity. the people protest, the police here have a tradition of giving the protesters some space, allowing a certain degree of civil disobedience and then whe it gets to be a bit too much, they express what the limits ar and the protesters get back in line and go where they're supposed to be. clearly that did not happen today. this is something i have never seen in atlanta, the mayor is
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trying to appeal to that peaceful atlanta tradition that tradition of peaceful protest. he is calling on the demonstrators to stop doing damage, to stop vandalizing, because this is just not what w do in atlanta. she assembled a gathering of religious leaders, civil rights leaders, rap artists, members o the hip-hop community, to appea to the protesters to be peaceful , to get their point across, and more effective ways then doing this violence. how you get your point across b attacking cnn, by attacking a journalistic organization, i don't know what this strategy i by tearing up your own safety. i don't know what the strategy is or if there was no strategy. a lot of people trying to figur out why now, why is atlanta
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erecting this way like it has not in the past. you did have that high-profile case in south georgia, a black man shot, fatally shot and killed, initially the men involved we're not charged unti the tape of that went public, and then you have the situation in minneapolis. add that to covid 19. perhaps it was a perfect storm. talking about the civil rights liberty. one of those longtime civil rights leaders is in re young, former atlanta mayor and former invested or to the united nations prayed he tweeted tonight and tomorrow night we have to round up the reasonable young people who are part of that group, and let them know that they have made their point and now they hurt their cause. >> thank you so much. we are going to check back into these hotspots throughout the
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hour and again, appealing to everybody, make your voice heard , make your motions known, march, speak, rally, but what happened at cnn, if you are watching it earlier, it took your breath away. there was explosions, we had glass shattered. we had projectiles thrown at th police, we had the police then sending teargas into the crowd. again, for people just tuning in , we have a night of disturbance across the united states and a lot of people are very concerned about law and order throughout the country an the peace of mind of those who were truly worried about the civil rights movements, race relations, and on top of everything else, our health and our economy. but now, i'm going to get onto how i was originally going to short start the show. according chaos, that is the focus of tonight's angle. heartache and anger over george
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floyd's killing runs deep into it should. for his family, his community, and the entire country, and the pain was made even worse last night when protest turned to horrendous violence in minneapolis and then it spirale across the united states. of course we are seeing that tonight. george floyd didn't deserve to die, and the innocent americans around the very place where floyd died, they didn't deserve to lose their dreams either. >> it hurts. it's not fair. it's not right. we have been working so hard fo this. it's not just meet, it's my family. >> it's heartbreaking for me an many members of the community. you can't find a business in every direction that doesn't have damage. >> it looks like a war zone right there. >> in total, more than 170
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buildings were damaged. cars lit on fire, the police precinct burned. for two days in a row, looting was widespread. protest, but also violence and criminality spread across america. meanwhile, the hennepin county attorney third-degree murder an manslaughter charges against derek chauvin, the officer involved. will that indictment, in tonight 's curfew be enough to kind of eventually quell the violence in the coming days? >> mister mac chauvin has been charged with third-degree murde and manslaughter. here reaction just to that fact? >> it's not enough. >> one officer has been taken into custody, but that is not enough. we will not be satisfied until all four of them are arrested and charged with the murder of george floyd. >> peaceful protest is the
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hallmark of a free society. we all know that. but what we are seeing breakout across america, it's only going to make everything worse. there is absolutely zero chance that rioting or looting, destroying the good peoples businesses or homes or property that's going to result in a better life for anyone, especially african-americans. if history is any guide, riotin leads to what? it ends up leading to stronger law-enforcement, longer jail sentences, and stricter rules for everybody. they devastate communities and drive out fearful businesses an residents. the damage that is done can persist for decades. we heard a lot of leaders on th ground saying that. someone who were around in 1968. at 2004 bureau study on those rights in the 60s found that
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they had economically significant negative effects on income and unemployment prayed further, those effects may have been larger in the long run fro 1960-1980 than in the short run from 1960-1970. the riots significantly depress the value of a black owned property between 1960 in 1970 with little or no rebound in th 70s. that means for the twin cities area, these riots could potentially reverse all of the economic gains made by african-americans over the last four years. so, why do people then in authority, at times, actually sound like they are bending ove backwards to avoid calling out those people who are dishonorin the memory of victims like george floyd. they are holding back from actually calling out new acts o
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crime that are kind of co-op of peaceful civil rights movement. why do people even try to excus that? >> i disagree with only one thing that would fit, the word riots, what we're seeing right there is frustration and anger, and rage, and an uprising because when people get good an sick of being killed for nothing , in their own country and treated like subhuman, in their own country, people get mad. and people get sick of it. >> and so much for leadership. the democratic mayor of minneapolis is about as incompetent is they come. he actually ordered the city police to abandon the third precinct headquarters and just let everybody come i give them their space, let the leaders ru wild. >> it became obvious to me that we could take a different route that would better assist both the public as well as the safet
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of our police officers. the building is just bricks and mortar. it's a building. >> apparently this different route he was talking about involves not even trying to enforce the law. it may be bricks and mortar to him, but what do you think went through the minds of residents and business owners when they saw their local police station ablaze and the police just having to stand there and just take whatever was thrown at them , just not move. do you think they felt safer? the residents whose innocent people just trying to take care of their family and make a living with thugs swarming the scene, completely unimpeded? >> there are people out there tonight that were saying things like where are the police right now. where were the police, firefighters, and national guar to protect that third precinct and too protect that neighborhood? >> we are doing absolutely everything that we can too keep the peace.
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>> i can tell you if if it was one of the fancy suburbs outsid of minneapolis, they would be protecting that. there is discrimination going on . a very expanded type of discrimination, by trying to virtue signal at the same time. you would think after this horrifying killing of mister floyd and the violence that has found across the country, that elected officials would act swiftly to bring order to the situation, to protect locals from harm and actual peaceful protesters from harm. instead commitment is owed trie to refrain the rioting into almost a noble undertaking. >> martin luther king said many years ago that right is the way that the unheard to get heard. he didn't condone it, but he said to the nation as a person who ohls always protest
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peacefully, they don't just dismiss that and ignore it and relegate it too just criminalit and bad behavior. actually ask yourself what is going on there. and is it something that we as society absolutely must pay attention too. i think we must pay attention t it. >> people were paying attention you can see the split screen when he was speaking to a building burning down. let that sink in for a moment. i think the nation is paying attention very there watching this closely. they are disgusted by floyd's killing and thank the good lord that they are, and they are disgusted by those who seek to use that pain as a pretext to push an agenda where there is n file or random anarchists who want to cause trouble. violence against innocent persons or property.
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during the obama administration we had riots, and remember in both cases, those police officers were cleared of wrongdoing. but not before entire blocks an already struggling neighborhood were totally devastated. barack obama was the nation's first black president and he remains a global superstar and one of the most respected men o the planet. but he wasn't able to stop the madness. and, i believe it was the fall of his last year in office, it shocked may need to know that race relations had not only not improved in those eight years, they had worsened. eroded trust between law enforcement and inner-city america has led to face it, it' been a problem in our country's of since the civil rights movement. before that, and we've had consent decrees, we've had
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community policing events, we have had fairs and festivals to try to get people together and understand each other as human beings. may be some of it has helped around the edges, but more tha anything when you see the image of what's happening tonight, we need a change of heart, we need a spiritual reawakening, all of us and i mean all of us. we need to foster a greater sense of respect for each other. as human beings, that's sounds trite and cliché, but the human aspect of it i'm talking beyond grace, i know people don't want to hear it, but as human beings. beyond race, beyond political parties, beyond any of that. in that type of reawakening be legislative? i'm sure former presidents including president obama would have tried. that is the angle. joining me now is mark furman,
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retired lapd police officer. also former nypd police officer and criminal justice professor. you see this unrest spreading. and those scenes are shocking t americans who haven't seen anything like this before. obviously the arrest and charge against speed you didn't make much evidence. your thoughts. we will start with what you saw in atlanta tonight. >> i was a lieutenant in the nypd and oftentimes one of the focus is in the department was too assess what the intelligenc in the community is. the importance of that is this riot basically started before what happened to mister floyd. the police department failed to assess the pulse of community and it now became a combustible situation. the leadership amounted to nothing being done as a result of nothing being done it became a more combustible situation. now we need to coalesce with th federal troops, the state of
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police, and the local police an they are going to triangulate and come up with a solution. and fortunately, were trying to rebuild the dam after it's already broken. of the unfortunate incident tha happened with mister floyd. >> that is a very profound commentary. it doesn't happen on a night like this, it's been happening. and the mayor today said well, we are used to giving protester their space rate and sometimes that makes sense because you don't want to unnecessarily provoke people, but that strategy somehow did not work tonight. again, just for the sake of focusing on one place, atlanta with what happened in front of cnn. explosions, cars on fire, the building was breached, projectiles thrown at officer spread finally they had to put on their riot gear because i think a bunch of them got hurt. >> laura, you certainly can't legislate leadership and that i one of the biggest problems here
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. just like the professor said, those are wise words, but when you get down to the levels of minneapolis police chief, he's going to be looking for a new job, so is the mayor. this is something where leadership had to draw a line. it was a trivial event with the police responded to that they escalated into a slow-motion homicide. this is what has inflated this. it was in ferguson where you go a quick movement of several seconds by two people engaged and an officer involved shootin involves occurs where you have two different points of view, two different levels of evidenc and eyewitness testimony. this is on video, a slow and really painful thing to watch o somebody grinding somebody's face into the pavement until they are dead. that being said, it is horrific but you can't dilute the justice by more rioting because
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eventually you're going to run out of buildings and then you'r going to go into an area that isn't so willing to abandon the buildings and those people are going to fight back and then you're going to have a real problem. >> hold on, we just have some breaking news in brooklyn, in new york. a police precinct is now under threat. we will go to that report now o the ground. we will be there in just a moment we have to get our shots there. professor, i want to go back to you before we do that. when you see the images of mister floyd on the ground, i could only watch it a few times. it is heartbreaking. it is infuriating. and then you see the images of american cities in flames tonight. and you think about 1968 and ho it took washington, dc where i live, it took decades, mark you
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know, it took decades for it to come back in dc, these neighborhoods. the sad thing is the neighborhoods that need the mos revitalization or we're just coming out of a deck difficult economic time are then cast bac down into despair because of what happened and the aftermath of a horrible criminal incident like this. >> that is true, but you want t amplify that past ten in the wake of the covid 19 pandemic. resources have been depleted because of that if you look at the african-american community in general, they believe they been recipients of a miscarriag of justice and this is the way that they see to revolutionize how they should be treated by the police everyone deserves quintessential policing. i'm a strong proponent in policing should be proceeded upon an effective way. at the same token, when we
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amplify our unwillingness or ou dissatisfaction with an action that was committed by police, then that is when we need to si at the table and come up with a more let's just say poised leve of engagement between policing community because police are public servants. they are here to serve the public, but the same token a public as a part of that partnership as well. it is a symbiotic relationship. when you see what's happening o the street now so you need to coalesce and have cooler heads free food prevail, sit at the table and devise a solution so we can get back to what we need to because this pandemic is destroying america as a result. >> mark, do you think that covi? we talked about earlier with th staff and i thought is this bubbling up under the surface here, is that adding fuel to th fire? so many people have lost their
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lives, so many minorities have lost their lives and people hav been shut in. they been shut in and a lot of restrictions on them. is that part of this or a smaller part than perhaps one would lead? >> any time you have too much o time on somebody's hands and they are idle in their restless something like this might ignit something, but i think what are we going to blame baltimore and ferguson on? those we're actually situations where there was two sides and people didn't understand and there was evidence that nobody knew about. this is crystal clear. the justice is not going to be given in the right amount in th power that it could when you ar still prosecuting people from the riots that have actually probably taken people's lives and destroyed entire blocks and
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communities. >> we know that unfortunately, businesses flee. they flee chaos and businesses are needed in these neighborhoods. it is really hard to build thes businesses back, they found tha inver ferguson and baltimore an now they will find it in minnesota pride gentleman, so glad we had both of you want tonight to give us some perspective with all of your experience. demonstrators have taken to the streets in brooklyn. we just learned some shocking details. alex hogan is on the scene now in brooklyn with the latest. >> we are in manhattan, but we have cameras around the city, this is where some of the protest started. in brooklyn we are seeing big changes there, far more police officers in the area than we were seeing earlier on in the day. we were seeing just a couple hundred people and now it's
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growing into masses. they are walking around. a lot of people are angry and some of that anger translating to larger energies that were seeing in some of these crowds, so much so that police even had to bring in i have bus to put more people onto those buses periods they are also calling a level four mobilization. basically that means that calling in, any law enforcement in the surrounding area for a backup. a level five would be the most and that would be calling in al law enforcement altogether into the area. again tonight we are seeing a lot of crowds in new york marching there to brooklyn. we're seeing even a car on fire reports of shots fired. a lot of anger and people sayin that they can't stay home. they have to ignore the guidelines and they need to voice this injustice that they are seeing varied of course the mayor is telling people to stil keep in mind that they need to
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practice social distancing, bu it's just not easy. >> i'm not seeing a lot of social distancing tonight. if it doesn't seem to be the to issue on people's minds. >> i want to go across the country to la where rioters are swarming the downtown area and clashing with police. we are standing by in la with the latest. bill, what is happening there? >> laura, things are unfortunately really starting t escalate here in los angeles. we have one very small protest behind us at lapd headquarters that's peaceful and not a problem. just down the street from us, a much more aggressive crowd is starting to take their anger ou on lapd. if we can pull it up, this happened within the last 30 minutes or so. this is part of downtown lap rate you will see in lapd officer goes into making arrest
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on somebody. he immediately gets warmed by the crowd there, badly outnumbered, he continues tryin to make that arrest, the crowd continues swarming around him and eventually some of the people in the crowd start punching him, kicking him. he continues trying to make tha arrest, but eventually, a good samaritan in that crowd is eventually able to protect the police officer and eventually drags him out from what was a very bad and dangerous situation . what we've seen happen nla here tonight is the marchers have been marching peacefully around the city streets and parts of the city they've been trying to get on freeways, police have blocked them in that area. on wednesday they were able to get on the 101 freeway and blocked traffic. for the most part up until abou 30 minutes ago things have been calm and peaceful other than that one incident over by pershing square where that lapd officer was attacked. the protest behind is very
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peaceful. lapd police chief mike moore said we hear your anger, we understand it and we understand why you're mad. we will protect your first amendment right to free speech, however we are getting concerne with some of the reports were getting of our officers being attacked in buildings being vandalized. they say they will draw the lin when it comes to public safety with the officers and the public . they are going to start picking up their enforcement and make more arrests. as the sun starts to go down here, we will have to see how the night plays out. >> thank you. my next guest is laura logan. i have been online tracking wha the role of antifa has been in minneapolis, atlanta, and in ne york. unfolding now, apparently in lo angeles. what can you tell us about how they might be mucking things up
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and making these things very very unstable. >> what they are doing is exploiting the existing conditions and exploiting the local residents, exploiting the very justified outpouring of grief and anger. they specialize and how am asking themselves behind genuin protesters. and exploiting these opportunities to educate and destroy. these are professional antagonize or spread they've been trained, they have manuals on how too do this with their tactics, techniques, and procedures prate if you look at them in the crowd you can start to pick them out. they typically wear black, they have different levels in the hierarchy of structure, but you will see the ones especially in the subculture of real professional antagonist and instigators. they were all black, they often have equipment on their backs.
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the have gas masks, there is ar their expensive ones. they will have cameras which have thousands and thousands of dollars that the average protester doesn't have they wil have communications equipment like radios with miniature grea in tennis. there are repeaters on top of terrorism people, intelligence people, and what all of them complain about is the fact that law enforcement has not been doing anything about the proliferation of these cells al across this country for years now. they have existed for a long time but in the age of social media, they world has become supercharged. they are able to influence an extraordinary amount of people. so you don't need a lot of them. you have them and you have this professional agitators that use and exploit the people around them. what happened in minneapolis is
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that a confluence of black live matter and ironically, the racial divide and the terrible racial injustice, but antifa is mostly white. they don't care about uniting the u.s. they don't care about getting rid of racism. their slogans are about abolishing the police. the use logan's like the only good cops are dead cops. they're not trying to fix the system or anything like that prate you have a black police chief in minnesota. they don't want to support thos people, those black people are not on their agenda. it's the people that can be exploited because when minneapolis is burned to the ground and any other city like ferguson, they move on and who is left holding the baby? who is left with the distractio and who is poor when their businesses have been burned dow and destroyed. the citizens vacate say they care about.
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>> it's about creating anarchy and taking down the whole american system. >> and regime change. >> it is all part of it. >> they are provoking the police . provoking the police, provoking the national guard, they want a replay of can state. one thing i've seen is lots of people complaining about the police station being allowed to be burned to the ground wet and he felt wanted was for the police to defend that building and take a fight with them and capture the images of the evil policeman with their weapons attacking the innocent civilians . they denied them that opportunity. that was strategic and in many ways very smart. now they have to map the cell phone network. >> we have to pull you there. where breaking news in minneapolis prate thank you for joining us. let's go to steve harrigan in minneapolis. telling us the latest. we have more violence and more
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fires breaking out there. >> we will show you what it looks like here. we have several cars on fire. we saw one just go up and explode, the tires melted down on another end gas tank just blew up your. one of many fires burning right now in minneapolis. you can see they draw a large crowd of people who come to stand nearby. you can see some small explosions going on there. there is a lot exploiting exploding their overnight. a lot of these people you see o the streets in cars. you get a look at these. one thing you don't see which i will tell you is pretty startling. many people are on their own here.
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>> steve, hold on you heard 9 millimeters shots ring out? >> it was definitely small arms fire, probably up into the air often celebratory, but there ha been a lot of fireworks as well. it was clearly a small arms fire . we think up in the air. and i guess, there is smoke fro these cars burning, there is smoke from teargas and the crow is gathering. and there is no sign of any police. if you have been in war zones were dangerous places, there is no solstice. there is nobody here to keep things in order. >> our reporter on the scene in minneapolis said that he hasn't seen a police officer in two hours prate you see this scene there. while we understand, we don't want to give antifa the perfect shot and i do get that, at some
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point you have got to save the city. at some point you've got to ste in and save the city otherwise these people will have nothing to go back to. >> a lot of people are out here including and, when you see these cars burning as a 16 -year-old, what do you think? >> noah i think no justice no peace, no stopping. >> instead of slogans, when you look at it, what do you think? >> it's sad, but it's what's go to be done. >> it has to be done. why does it have to be done? >> enough is enough. police brutality, it's enough. >> 's so we've got a 16 -year-old watching cars burn here, he lives a block away and says it has to be done. >> i didn't like the sound of that. steve, you have got to be real
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careful where you are bread. >> i'm going too back away from this car a little bit. >> i would back up there. so, we heard earlier today from minnesota authorities that this curfew was going to be in place that they wanted cooler heads t prevail. they wanted people to protest, but take the temperature down. >> show me a cool head anywhere around here. >> it hasn't worked. the curfew hasn't worked, standing down orders, that didn't work. bringing the national guard and i guess the national guard is doing what? i guess they are protecting vital infrastructure i understand tonight. but the people of minnesota, th people of minneapolis, the are watching the scenes wondering i this cabool, or is this minnesota. we are happy to bring back juli
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who has been covering these riots in minneapolis. julio, you just tweeted moments ago the riot police and nationa guard have completely abandoned the perimeter? they set up earlier. rioters have chased them away? given what you saw last night, where is this going to end up? ticket not anywhere good. they had set up a perimeter around the area of the third precinct that had been torched last night. that was there all day. things got out of hand after th law enforcement told the crowd that had gathered that within ten minutes they we're going to be in violation of that curfew order. they weren't happy with that, s they started throwing all sorts of stuff, bottles, rocks, at th national guardsmen and the righ police. so of course they were firing
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back with tear gas and other nonlethal rounds, but then they started pulling back, and they pulled back completely. where we are right now is we ar so many blocks away from where we originally started. you can see behind me many people are not obeying that curfew order. >> we just showed the photo of where you got hit by the rubber bullets, that doesn't look too fun to say the least. that we did see that photoperio is that in your shoulder? where is that? >> it is right around here. my camera guy is telling me too show it off. it's right there. >> that is not good. >> i am not too happy about it. i was off to the side, i wasn't close to them and i was doing what i'm doing right now. i understand it's a very tense situation, but like i said, i wasn't near them. i was off to the side.
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>> you are a former marine. >> marine reservist. >> we are going to check back with you later in the hour, but my next guest did with the minneapolis police seem incapable of doing. they are just giving up the streets. he's been protecting small businesses from rioters. in minneapolis resident who along with several others put his own safety on the line to keep looters away from businesses. tory, you are seeing all of thi unfold tonight. tell our audience why you decided to take matters into your own hands. >> we are a very close communit here. thank you for having me on. all of this is happening probably about eight blocks fro my home.
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and like i said we are very close community. close-knit, and when we started seeing this progress eased towards a lot of the businesses towards the east because it kep progressing more and more, we decided to start kind of policing the whole area and jus trying to help out as best we can. we were keeping the looters and those things from continuing to break-in and break into pieces. it is literally like a war zone here. it's like nothing i've ever see before in my life. >> what i'm seeing tonight is more of the same of last nights. we thought that order would be brought to the streets tonight knowing that if you don't bring order to the streets, you're going to get spillover effect outside of these five blocks into other parts of the city as we've seen now spilling over across the country. what are you saying about the
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leadership of your city tonight? i know it's a difficult situation. but where's the leadership? >> i think it could be a heck o a lot better. i think we could have done a better job. i literally could not believe that we abandoned the three third precinct police departmen and, i just, i still can't believe it. like i say, i am eight blocks from this area and the whole area by the third precinct literally looks like a war zone. it's like nothing i've ever see before in my entire life. >> this looks like iraq or afghanistan. and we just got this, police chief source, they tried to overthrow the 88 precinct by th berkeley commit numerous cops were hertz bridges so that is from one of our sources in new york. so come out when people who wan to commit criminal mischief see
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precinct as they saw in minneapolis get overrun and destroyed, people feel like if they can do it, i can do it and i can one up them and do it better. you saw cnn's building attack, and it goes on and on and on. i feel sorry for people who jus started their businesses. they had covid to deal with an now they have this to deal with. how that how do they get past it ? >> my neighborhood will never b the same. it will probably take ten years to rebuild. all the stores i shop at in my neighborhood i tried to buy locally just because i like to support those businesses, but honestly believe a lot of them won't reopen and it's going to change the whole neighborhood i live in. 75 percent of my shopping is locally and it's going to completely devastate the neighborhood.
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president obama weighed in on the disaster unfolding in minneapolis today, but instead of condemning any of the violence in the streets, he sai this. for many of americans being treated differently on the is normal. it shouldn't be normal in 2020. america, it can't be normal. we can and must be better. it falls on all of us too work together to create a new normal in which the legacy of bigotry and unequal treatment infects our institutions or our hearts. now obama statement was clearly talking horse for joe biden who only opted up. >> come together as one america. some of those that sit in some position of influence to deal with the of power.
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it is absolutely essential. >> there can be no excuses, talking about our obligations t these people. our obligation to take responsibility. >> our children are listening. >> never has so little and said in so many words. joining me now is mike huckabee. also, cooper comeau cofounder o project 21. horace, shouldn't voters be speaking out or thinking about what has happened not just tonight or this week or last week, but really, let's just look at the last decade. last decade we had eight years of barack obama and joe biden. by the end of it as we showed that gallup poll, reese relations were worse. biden comes along, and now says
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we just need to sit down and listen to people and hear them and validate them and so forth. does that work in connecting with worried america tonight? >> what former president obama said and the statement by vice president biden has demonstrate why after eight years with them having the pulpit, being able t stand up and explained to america what their objectives and goals were, why we started off with such great hope and optimism on the basis of race i 2009, and then by the end of their term, america actually wa more racially divided then we were before. it is these types of incidents, i'm not talking about what's happening in minnesota, i am talking about those who exploit these incidents for their
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political gain. the former president often was willing to do that and many of his supporters are. >> tom bevan, we had steve harrigan on the ground and he was talking for a moment or two to 16 -year-old in minnesota in minneapolis and he said, it's police brutality and we are fed up, we are done with it. so the young people, these see these images and they think thi system is rigged against them and america is a racist country. and you have to turn that around , but that has been cemented in the minds of young people for many years. >> looked look. people look at that video of george floyd commit nobody condones that in any way, but the problem is we should be abl to address that, but also be able to condemn the rioting and
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looting that is going on. you can do both things at the same time. president obama said these things but didn't condemn the rioters break that's the only way to establish the balance. uc shots and stores burning, as you said, it's hard on the communities it happens in, but it also hurts the protesters because. it doesn't advance the cause that everybody wants to see. it is a tricky thing and it's going to be interesting to see how the public views these two things the longer the riots go on, it could produce a backlash. >> governor huckabee, i think americans are just inherently good people and they are optimistic people, they want to think the best of their fellow man and in our last minute, right now as we move forward, are people going to air on the side of we need fun order restored now, or do they want t keep this kind of cycle going until we reach some on's going
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consent decree that will affect every police department in the country? >> you said it right, americans are good people. americans believe in justice, but they also believe in mercy. they felt mercy, they felt compassion, they felt horrible when they saw the systematic intentional murder of george floyd. that is the mark that the justice of us also says, you cannot let people go and destro cities. sadly, i was a teenager in 1968 and this is reminding me of 196 when after the assassinations o martin luther king and robert f kennedy and the chicago riots during the democratic convention , richard nixon was able to let a lot of fears across america and say there's got to be law in order and americans took that seriously. i think this could be another seminal year. we need that kind of understanding. >> 's safety and justice.
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>> we are going to something a little different tonight, raymond's reviews for a look at some of the atmospheric surrounding this minneapolis situation and what it means. i'm joined by raymond arroyo. what has the media been doing t reframe or kind of change the coverage of what most regular americans would see as criminal events. >> if you watch any of the coverage today even this evening , you would have sworn you were watching a march for literacy or the march for life given some of this coverage. it's hard to depict what
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happened in minneapolis as a peaceful protest or what we're seeing tonight while buildings and cars are being burned and inflames in the background. but some tried. >> i want to be clear and how i characterize this parade great this is mostly protest it is no generally speaking unruly. >> we are in a situation where people feel there is no other option but to take to the streets to have their voices heard. >> these people are fighting fo their liberty. >> we talked to a community activist and he said to me, listen, we are tired, according to the people we've talked to, this is all of that pent up anger and frustration coming to a head. >> these are people that would have said the titanic changed its cruise itinerary. this bin here is unbelievable. fear, frustration, a lot of us have felt frustration over the last few weeks, but that is not
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a permission slip to loot, burn and destroy private enterprises as well as lives. rioting is how the unheard are hertford they attribute that to doctor king. doctor king also said violence is a way of achieving racial justice is impractical and immoral. the emerging political narrativ we hear today is that the president was slow to respond t the george floyd case and the fallout. this is cnn. >> at the president has been late on the situation all week long. late to react to the video of what happened in minneapolis. late to respond to the unrest. we are far past the point where the president should be weighin in for the first time on these matters. >> the president wasn't slow to respond, local authorities were. >> look at what they're doing tonight nothing. apparently just standing down
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again, and there will be more destruction and a lot of these people a lot of them are antifa but not all of them. these are people doing real damage to this narrative. make we are entitled because were mad about the horrific killing, i get that everybody's mad about it. i understand that the. >> the media has taken what was a private what was a local tragedy and turned it into national public trial. now joe biden tried to capitalize on it today per at gig i don't know all the facts it warns of full-blown investigation in a civil rights investigation if i were the president now i would have this civil rights investigation goin on right now bright gig.
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gig at the president had also authorized civil rights investigation and an fbi investigation. biden is like the guy who finds a legal paper and reads it as i it's breaking news parade it's amazing what's happening here. >> when cnn and its building wa under attack, and i am watching it, online, and some cnn people were tweeting about it, but it wasn't yet being covered, i guess it's kind of hard to cove your own building. but that was unbelievable. just 1,000 people smashing into the building. >> you don't achieve justice through unjust means. this is no way to make your message heard or focus on polic brutality. these are wilding's going on. we need restraint and we need leaders to come forward and tak control of the situation. inside the community and outside . >> president trump is going to have to speak out new doubt
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about it. joe biden's interview with took an odd turn when craig melvin asked this. >> and light of what is happening in minneapolis, if yo don't choose a woman of color a your number two, what message would that send to the african-american community? >> i've already said i'm going to pick a supreme court justice who is a woman of color. i've already said my cabinet will be full of men and women o color. i also already said there are women of color under consideration. that is not the only criteria t determine who will be the vice president of the united states of america. >> joe biden is captured, he is captured by that. at this point he's going to hav to give up the nomination and allow somebody to take his plac because he's not good enough pristine enough, perfect enough for the nomination. >> raymond, thank you, and we will check back with you
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>> laura: no, no. raymond, thank you. i pray, i pray that cooler heads prevail this weekend. pray for your country and a spiritual reawakening. >> shannon: this is a fox news alert. i am shannon bream in washington. writer is attacking cnn center in atlanta. the white house locked down for about an hour as protesters try to breach barricades there. freeways blocked and standoffs with police all across the country. this is the third night of violence in the wake of the death of an unarmed black man named george floyd. an officer is under arrest tonight charged with third-degree murder and more. those charges not enough for the family of george floyd and many others who are back out on the streets of minneapolis despite what was supposed to be an 8:00 p.m. curfew being enforced by the national guard in the state police. writing and looting has scarred
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