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♪ [shouting] jedediah: violence and raw outrage spreading out from major cities across the country including atlanta, new york ad.e floyd. pete: in oakland a car drives through a store leaving broken glass everywhere. scenes like that everywhere across the country. griff: in dallas destroy a police car violent clash with officers. good morning i'm griff jenkins in washington with pete and jed in new york as we wake up this morning cities coast to coast trying to get order back under control. pete: yeah, guys. jedediah: i was just in the break. pete: go ahead, please. jedediah: just looking at social media and seeing commentary from people around the country saying
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things like i'm scared for my country. looking at this footage. so many businesses that are being burned up in flames, looking at the actions of the rioters. obviously the horrific deaths of george floyd and the way that went down. horrific action from some people in terms of vines ensuing in these communities that will have long-term damage to these communities to their economic and emotional stability. pete: very true and such a disconnect from the legitimate justice that could be happen for what happened in minneapolis four ago. the reality of violence and riots across the country in cities. we saw it right outside the white house, griff. we saw one of our reporters chased by a mob off the white house ground. you saw cnn's headquarters attacked. you saw it in brooklyn. a report there later on. dallas, san francisco, atlanta. this is not just minneapolis. this is across the country and it's become i have lent and anti-law enforcement in a way that seems to me, griff, to be
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very counter productive. griff griff as our viewers are just waking up and tuning in. it's really that point, pete, so important this morning. you can have three things true at the same time. number one, george floyd should still be alive. number two, the anger in the streets over racial issues is legitimate but, number three is the prescient one and that is order must be restored across the country and there is no place that it is needed more than in minneapolis, minnesota. where we have matt finn on the ground. he has been there night after night, morning after morning. matt, good morning to you. what's the latest there? >> it was just another disturbingly violent night here in minneapolis. can you see behind us this auto zone. we have watched it burn to the ground now for about two hours. this bank here was vandalized. basically destroyed. you can see the atm machine was ripped out of the wall and we have seen that happen a lot around this city. we saw a mob of rioters inside a
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gas station a short while ago trying to rip out an atm machine. and across minneapolis there is simply lawlessness and rioters and criminals able to roam at large at will. the governor says law enforcement has been shot at and calls this a very fluid, dangerous situation. >> this is the largest civilian comploiment employment in minnesota history we have out there today. quite candidly we don't have the numbers. we cannot arrest people when we try to hold ground because of the shear size, dynamics and wanton violence that's coming out there. >> the governor says this is the largest deployment of law enforcement in state history. there are 1700 national guard soldiers on the ground right now. the governor also says that he talked to the family of floyd george. he understands their outrage but says that this is destruction and chaos. this is not grieving. back to you.
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pete: i have got to ask you. there was supposed to be a curfew at 8:00. we watched the images throughout the evening. rioters ignoring that curfew. there wasn't really much of a police protest until around midnight. yet, matt, this is the fourth day in minneapolis. so, when leadership there, law enforcement or elected, how will they talk about what will happen today, saturday, saturday night, and what approach or change will they take to restore law and order on the streets? what are they talking about? >> well, first of all, that curfew was obviously widely disregarded. there is plenty of video to show that and we have seen plenty of protesters and looters across the city who were not abiding by any type of curfew. and, you know, yesterday afternoon, the governor admits that this was afailed approach and law enforcement leaders of this state said that there was not going to be a repeat last night into today. but there clearly was. the governor a short while ago
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really just a few hours ago at a press conference said there are simply not enough officers. that they are outnumbered. they cannot start making mass arrests. they don't have the ability to do that. we will see what happens later today and back into saturday night. whether or not this state and the mayor and the governor and law enforcement can get a handle on these protests. these riots. griff: matt, one quick follow-up. this is griff. what is the national guard doing? what do you see them doing? because as you know because if they can't do the law enforcement engagement, what is their role and what are you seeing with their actions? >> we have seen them accommodate and facilitate a lot of the first responders. we have seem then form a perimeter around the fire crews as the fire crews put out blazes like this. because obviously all the fire crews are subject to these very violent rioters and looters. we have seen national guard defend and protect fire crews. we have also seen them set up
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those human perimeters around certain areas to keep the rioters out of certain neighborhoods and try to maybe advance them towards other areas. the guard has been doing a lot of work here on the ground. pete: matt, real quick. the third precinct taken over that was abandoned. do they have plans to reope reoy it rebuild? it? what are they saying about that spot. >> not sure. a lot of illegal activity and riots shifted from the third precinct over to the fifth precinct last night. so that's an area where we saw a post office broken into. we saw a lot of looting in that area. so, a lot of the focus probably now has shifted toward the fifth. i'm not exactly sure what's happening back at the third. pete: got it. jedediah: thank you so much, matt. we appreciate your info from right there on the ground. obviously this is a horrific scene that we're looking at unfold. enormous rift in the community between police and the community not only in minneapolis but around the country as we see
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these protests rise up. some of these protesters upset that former officer derrick -- they feel he should have been charged with first degree murder. there has to be some way to form some unity in the community to prevent these businesses from being continued to be destroyed. we spoke with jack brewer last hour who was calling for unity, calling for honoring george floyd. obviously talking about the horrific nature of you who he died. but also talking about the need for unity. take a listen to what he had to said. >> the reaction to it what really hurts right now. george floyd did not represent what you are seeing on your tv screens right now, ladies and gentlemen. did he not represent hate. he represented peace. you cannot let chaos just continue to run rampant because these same businesses that are being burned down, a lot of the people that were being -- having
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experiencing all of this loss, they agree with the protesters. we are all in agreement right now. as a nation we should be using this time to unite. jedediah: people in the community feel they are not able to trust police where police seem paralyzed in some respects. >> don't know what to do or where to go needing that assistance from the national guard. it's a tough time all around. pete: it reveals the thin line of civility. they call it the thin blue line for a reason. i want to live in a country where a cubs food where this happened in minneapolis you can call police because a counterfeit $20 bill is being used and believe they will be there two minutes later to respond because law and order does matter. of course what happened to george floyd, we are in violent agreement about that. i use that phrase all the time. we all believe that was wrong.
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at the same time, here we are, four days later with a minneapolis police department and leadership total in over their head incapable of responding to any business owner that calls as their business is being burned to the ground. so you can indict what happened with the police officer while also recognizing without that police presence the most vulnerable communities are in a very, very bad spot. griff: you know, as we think about george floyd family the devastation is unbelievable there is a video from george on youtube saying younger generation have got to get their act together. well, his girlfriend talked to the star tribune her name is courtney ross about what george would think about if he could see all of this and here was the quote waking this up morning to see minneapolis on fire would be something that would devastate floyd. he loved the city. he came here from houston and stayed here for the people and the opportunities.
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floyd was a gentle giant. he was about love and about peace. unbelievable. jedediah: absolutely. we spoke with alveda king. check out what she had to say. >> we are missing leaders. leaders with the spiritual understanding and compassion to come ford and guide the people. we have to have peace to guide justice. it's not true. no, bring peace and we will have justice. pete: the challenge here, guys. that's a great statement from george floyd's girlfriend. we heard from the lawyer of his family who is demanding a first degree murder charge. when you look -- first degree is premeditation in order to kill an individual and everyone i have talked to in the legal field and law enforcement feels like that is almost an
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impossible standard to meet. if you set standards too high does that send a message any justifiable sin sufficient if it's not first degree murder? it's a tougher spot because people are calling for peace and justice. also the district attorney, the law enforcement there also trying to make sure everyone's rights are protected in the process. griff: that's a good point. jedediah: lots of questions emerging as to whether -- asking why it took so long to make an arrest. others are saying what about the other officers on the scene? are they going to be charged? others are saying maybe not a first degree murder charge but second degree murder charge. lots of questions remain to be seen and for now though the community awaits and unfortunately many of -- much of that community is reacting in the violent protests that we see across the country which does a huge disservice to george floyd. this is a man who they say loved peace. who had no intent for violence
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whatsoever. that he would be hurt and deeply saddened by what's happening around the country right now. griff: yeah. that's exactly right. you know, don't forget, there are three other officers that this community would also like to see arrested for something at some point. pete: sometimes the gears of justice move a little bit slower than people would like. we will keep following this all morning long. coming up, the former the center of the george floyd death investigation charged with murder. what's next? what happens to the other officers as griff talked about were involved. former federal prosecutor brett tollman breaks down the case next. eir insurance or credit card bills. discover all the ways we're helping members today.
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griff: we're back with a fox news alert. chaos overnight as protesters take to the streets demanding justice in the wake of george floyd's death. this just hours after fired police officer derek chauvin was arrested on third degree degree murder and manslaughter. what do we know about these charges and could more be coming? joining us now to discuss former
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federal prosecutor brett tollman. brett, good morning to you. >> good morning. what do you make of these charges and do we expect more? >> first of all, everyone needs to realize this is definitely just the beginning of the prosecution of this officer and perhaps even more. the third degree charge keep in mind is a murder charge. this is not a manslaughter charge. this is third degree murder. you can see by the statutes in minneapolis that they chose very specifically this statute. they don't want to charge something that when they get down the road they are going to have problems with and imagine the communities, you know, response if they fail to get a conviction in this case. so, i think they have chosen wisely, but that's just one part of it. there is a federal case out there that is potentially very substantial and a section 242 prosecution is nothing to sneeze at. it is a potential life sentence, even the possibility of a death
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sentence, if an officer is convicted. griff: so the fbi and doj are looking into this. that's a very fierce civil rights division. let me take you back just to the charges in minnesota. ben crump the family's attorney. this is a statement he put out about the family's charges. we want a first degree murder charge and we want to seat other officers arrested. we call on authorities to revise the charges to reflect the true culpability of this officer. how high would the bar be set to try and get first degree. that's something you envision being possible and what about the other officers involved? >> yes. so the other officers are certainly being booked at. you can get a sense this is a holding charge. what i mean by that is they needed to make an arrest. and they need to do it swiftly. they have charged. they can go back and adjust those charges at any time. now, with respect to the degree that they are charging.
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keep in mind that first degree, there would have to be facts that show that this officer prior to engaging with george had the intention of killing him and set about action to satisfy that intention. the second degree charge requires an intent to kill, that doesn't have premeditation. what that means is that he still had the intent to kill at some point during the incident. but he hadn't premeditated on it. those two are very high bars. it doesn't mean they can't change and adjust if they find facts that justify that but right now they certainly have facts that justify a third degree murder charge. and, keep in mind, under minnesota law, that also can be up to a 25-year sentence. very little chance of this officer, if convicted, is ever going to see the light of day.
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griff: brett, you know, it has been so difficult for all of us in the nation to watch the video that 8 minutes that chauvin has got his knee on floyd's neck, but we also now are watching, looking at those other officers thinking whyidn't you do something? there was some near three minutes of just completely submissive, unresponsive george floyd. what would be the charges that the other three officers could be facing? >> well, they certainly -- they could be facing similar homicide charges, manslaughter is not out of the question. third degree is not out of the question. it's all going to depend on what was the interactions at the time. it's horrific to watch certainly what happened at the hands of these officers. the one in particular that's been arrested now we know it is charged. the other officers, what did they say? there is some indication in the
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charging document that a cup period of time officers did indicate he should let let george up or get off of him. some of those facts will be important. but, in essence, if a failed to act during the circumstance, they may be facing charges. griff: all right. brett tolman we have to leave it there. fascinating to watch if the federal governments. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. griff: still to come as protests escalate to violent riots. one pastor is on the front lines with officers in minneapolis and calling for peace. that officer will join us live next.
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♪ >> as riots break out across the country over the death of george floyd one pastor in minneapolis praying with police and protesters calling for peace. here with why this leadership is more important than ever is pastor demoss. welcome. >> oh, glad to be on. thank you. jedediah: it's great to have you here. obviously it's a terrible news day. we are looking at protests, violent protests erupting around the country. i want to focus on minneapolis right now. there is a much needed call for unity here for peace. what message can you bring today for people in for both the protesters and the police who need to sort of figure out a way to come together on the ground here and not have this violence ensue? >> yeah. you know, i think the police need to be more, more vocal. they are doing a great job of not injuring anybody. and we are so grateful for that.
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but they have to be vocal that they as well want to stand for justice, that they as well saw what took place was really wrong black and young people. they are out there and you can feel their pain. can you feel the vulnerability that they have, that police officers have sovereign immunity and they feel like they can do anything to an african-american and not face consequences. and this is causing this outcry. and it's unfortunate that in a lot of these communities the only time cameras show up is when buildings burn. we have to work really hard to change that narrative. we have to build trust in the hearts of these young people that justice will go forward. so, it's a tough situation. and when you see these kids, it just moves your heart to
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sadness. jedediah: pastor, who can bring these communities together at this point? because obviously there is this division. is it up to family leadership? is it up to religious leadership? who can actually go into a community that is, as you can see, up in flames, literally and bring these people together? who has that power right now? >> i think it's the combination. it's a combination of clergy being on the ground. it's a combination of african-american leaders speaking to our youth. but it's also a combination of white leaders. targets the ceo should stand and say i don't like what's going on auto zone. i don't like what's going on. the new president of fox news should say we don't like what's going on. there needs to be a unified voice and not just people looking to see okay, you know, did he do something wrong? did he really resist the arrest? the man was handcuffed, no one
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listened to wisdom. the streets were crying, the bible says, the streets were crying for wisdom. while his neck was on him, white and black people was like you cannot see you are killing him? those cops need to be brought in. they need to be sanctioned just like any of us would be sanctioned and that needs to happen quickly. otherwis these young people will not be satisfied. jedediah: yeah. pastor, obviously, people around the world unanimously, people at our network and everywhere condemning all violence that emerges. thank you for being here. we appreciate your take. we will continue to follow the story. thank you so much. >> thank you. jedediah: coming up, president trump and the pentagon calling on the army to have its military police on stand by and ready to head into minneapolis. dr. darrin porcher is an nypd detective and served in the army and says this lawlessness cannot
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of george floyd. griff: take a look in richmond. protesters pushing a massive bus off the road. pete: and in dallas, protesters destroy a police car in a violent clash with officers. here to react now let's bring in dr. darrin porcher, former nypd lieutenant and army veteran. thanks for being here this morning. appreciate all your commentary on. this thanks for having me. pete: when you watch police officers attacked. businesses burned to the ground. a fourth night in minneapolis where law enforcement is overwhelmed. reports of outside agitators there and elsewhere trying to fan the flames. what is the proper reaction to these riots now for law enforcement? >> well, one of the things that we need to look to is we are going to see two separate sets the protesters. we're going to have people that are merely there based on emotion. and then you are going to have other people that are anarchists. the problem is when you have the two groups coexist as one. the influence of the anarchist
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overrides the influence of the people that are there for shear emotion. so, as a result. the police need to come together with a cumulative strategy to address the violence. currently we have three entities in place. we have localized police. we have state police. and now we have the assassination of federal troops such as national guard and as of lately, the president president has introduced the use of army police, so to speak. and so when we look at those, the triangulation of those three forces, that is how we are going to look to present counter measures and fortifications so we can bring the society back to a new normal as a result. griff: darrin, what does this look like you mentioned the pentagon preparing the army to prepare military police and the governor of minnesota say he has been talking to defense secretary esper about this. we of course know with the national guard cannot engage. this comes as the minneapolis
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police say that shots have been fired at their officers, fortunately, so far no reports of injury. but this situation is turning into one we may have never seen before. what does the enforcement look like? >> >> well, we refer back to the teachable moments of the literal 1990s when we had the rodney king verdict that played out into shear pandemonium. at that time the military police pushed -- excuse me, had boots on the ground in los angeles. at the time president george h. bush implemented the same authority. this is merely using that staple strategy here in minnesota. and as a result, it's going to take some time but i give it maybe 3 to 5 days max and you will be able to bring things back to the new normal. it looks chaotic and somewhat of an amoeba so to speak. this is something that will go back to where we were prior to the riot. we need to give it a couple of
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days. >> i want to get your reaction to what president trump has said about the situation potentially getting into more lawlessness. potential anarchy. let's take a listen to what he had to say and get your reaction. >> it's very important that we have peaceful protesters and support the rights for peaceful protesters. we can't allow a situation like happened in minneapolis to descend further into lawless anarchy and chaos. very important, i believe, to the family, to everybody that the memory of george floyd be a perfect memory. looters should not be allowed to drown out the voices of so many peaceful protesters. they hurt so badly it's so bad for the state and for that great city. jedediah: what do you make of the statement? >> well, i understand right now,
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like it or not, president trump is the person that's here to right the ship. therefore, we need to coalesce behind his strategy and implement the solutions that he sees fit to quell the violence in minnesota. not just minnesota. but nationally because this is something that is spread out. so as the result, we need focused law enforcement and also people, meaning the community, to come together behind law enforcement and bring about change. this is a time where we need to pay attention to the leadership in this united states of america to get us back to the normal. it's unfortunate. it's an arduous task. but it goes back to this is not who we are as americans. we are better than that and this is merely a black eye in our society and we will recover. law enforcement is the key to bringing this back to where we need to have it. therefore, we need to follow suit and engage people in a way that is prosperous for us as
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americans. pete: you talk about law enforcement being the key. we mentioned the assets that could be brought to bear. the actual policing on the street which is on a great deal of scrutiny right now is what arguably makes a difference. there were a lot of guests on our channel last night hey in the past policing first person who throws a bottle is arrested. first person who assaults a police officer is arrested. the second and the third. and pretty soon people learn we are not going to tolerate. this yet the opposite approach has been taking in minneapolis. effectively backing away and allowing protesters to have at it. does there need to be a new more aggressive strategy to target the outside agitators you are talking about to quell the violence? >> in my experience as a lieutenant in the nypd, i have dealt with many of these violent disturbances, riots so to speak and the key to this is if you do nothing, the problem exsasser rates. that's what's equating to the actions that are occurring in minnesota. we need to step into this situation and take back our
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country or should say take back minnesota accordingly. we want to acknowledge people's constitutional rights to protest, but, at the same token, when these peoples rights are infringing on others. i should say when people are not acknowledging the laws and they're not acting as law abiding citizens, therefore, it's necessary for law enforcement to do what they have to do to instale level of normalcy in the society. many people will argue that it was law enforcement that created this. i see this as more of an aberration. i don't see it as an institutional practice. but, besides all of that we need to understand that the social contract employs police to maintain order in our society and, therefore, we need to do what's right to get us back to where we were prior to this disturbance. >> darrin, president and former president barack obama weighing in on the death of george floyd. he says, among other things this. this shouldn't be normal in 2020
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america. it can't be normal. if we want our children to grow up in a nation that lives up to its highest ideals, we can and must do better. it falls on all of us, regardless of our race or station, including the majority of men and women in law enforcement to take pride in doing their tough job the right way every day to work together to create a new normal in which the legacy of bigotry and unequal treatment no longer infects our institutions or our hearts. your response? >> police mcconduct should never be normal. i don't believe that that's the norm in society. i see this as more of. anna: aberration we need to lean trust into our leadership to get us to a better place as a result. thank you for being here. jedediah: tough days but we appreciate your input. >> okay. thanks for having me. jedediah: coming up, businesses already hard hit by the coronavirus pandemic now facing another challenge as looters and rioters destroy their property.
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pete: we are back with a fox news alert. businesses impacted by looting and property destruction as the nation grapples with mass unrest and riots over the death of george floyd. how will business owners, most of whom are already struggling with the hardship of covid-19, how are they going to rebuild and how might it effect local economies? joining me to discuss is fox news contributor kings college brian brenberg. thanks for being here. we both grew up in minnesota. you are there right now. when you look at those businesses in hardest hit areas already struggling because of the lockdown restrictions, what's next for them? >> well, what's next is baking question mark right now because the city and the state have been so ineffect actua ineffect actug
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with these riots. you have seen these businesses threessments small businesses minority owned businesses and some of the most vulnerable people in our people when it comes to economics and being hit hardest by this right now. the rioters, the looters don't seem to understand or they are just willfully ignoring the fact that they're hurting some of the pillars of their community and the people who make those communities work for the neighbors they care about. pete: when you look at some of those areas ferguson, couple years communities rebuilt or reopen or is this something that could take years, decades to rebuild? >> it could take a very long time, pete. especially because the environment we are in right now with coronavirus, many of these businesses were already down. they were looking to get back up. they were just starting to see a chance to do that. but now they are knocked down again. and the big problem here is, you
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know, in a city, you rely on some sort of good governance from your mayor. it creates the space for you to operate a business. right now in minneapolis, that is, again, just a huge question mark. dolls the mayor have the backs of the businesses in hematocrit his city that make the city run or does he not? is he with the looters or is he with the businesses and i know he will say he is with the community, but he is not showing it right now and so if you are a business owner can i be here? i do want to rebuild is this the place where that's possible? we need emphatic yes from minnesota's leaders. we haven't got than yet. pete: where then do they go next in an environment where their business has already been closed. it may have been burned down or looted is there a program? is there -- do you declare emergency? what are the options economically for these businesses? >> well, some of these
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businesses are going to be going to there insurers and saying look we have been harmed here and need recompense. the city has to step up and make this right. the city has to number one restore order. the people in a city. there is actually even volunteers on the ground right now trying to help these businesses pick up the pieces. there is community support to rebuild but that can only happen if people feel like rebuild something possible. right now we are not seeing any cessation to this. we are not seeing an end to this. the longer that goes on. the harder it becomes to rebuild. at some point the business owners throw their hands up in the air. yes, there are resources in the community. yes, there is resources in the city. yes, there is resources from the state and insurers. step number one is you have to restore order. nothing matters unless you restore order. pete: yeah, it is a thin line between the rioting we see and civilization that provides for the flourishing of people and just a simple opportunity to open a business and pursue the
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american dream brian brenberg thank you for your time this morning we appreciate it? >> you got it, pete. pete: georgia's governor declaring a sterge as violence erupts. joining us outside the college football hall of fame that was ransacked overnight. mark, give us the latest. >> take a look. the georgia national guard are out here protecting the georgia football hall of fame. can you see why. it was basically looted. that was -- once this bus goes by. that is what is left of the gift shop that was there those looters went in and basically took anything and everything they could get their hands on. we come back out. that's a chick-fil-a that's had its window busted out. this is marietta street through downtown. and every one of these businesses have their windows busted out. if you go back this way. that's the cnn center. and really the first floor of the cnn center. if it's made of glass, it has
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been busted out. and the omni hotel a very similar situation. now, what you are looking at. is centennial olympic park. fairly peaceful protest that was taking place in here for a while. on the other side of the park there is a waffle house that got looted. now coming back this is a starbucks that has been busted out. a ruth chris and this is an embassy suites. this gives you an idea of just some of the damage that took place here a couple of cars or at least the remnants of where they were lit on fire here in downtown atlanta. as you mentioned. the governor has issued a state of emergency. they have every police officer that they can master to try to make sure that they can keep the peace. however, this was completely out of control situation last night. atlanta police still trying to assess how many people were arrested, what, if any, injuries and trying to calculate all of this damage which could take some time for them to figure out. i want to remind you, this is just one part of the city that
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suffered damage. there was significant damage also in midtown. there was damage up in buck head where there was an awful lot of looting taking place of some of the high end stores that are up there. we are hopeful this will not repeat itself again tonight but we will just have to wait and see how things play out. reporting from downtown atlanta. i'm mark for fox news. griff: hey, mark, it's griff jenkins, very quickly a question. last night we saw exasperated go home. this is no longer about the legacy of martin luther king, about george floyd's death. any sense that the people there in atlanta listened to the mayor? >> it depends. there are people out here actually saying a very similar situation, gentlemen we were just talking about before we came out said this had nothing to do with george floyd there were also other people saying there is a lot of anger. and there is anger that they are saying has not been taken care of. because it's the problem that
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they say keeps repeating itself over and over and over again. so, you are getting mixed messages from people as far as whether this really accomplished anything or was just a co-loss sell waste of time and destruction, really. pete: thank you very much. tough to see a city that has peaceful protest. still ahead calling on dr. michael baden to conduct a second autopsy to pinpoint the exact cause of death. a live report coming up next.
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alert. george's family asks dr. michael baden to perform a second autopsy. this as a second officer is charged with murder. todd piro joins us live to explain why the first autopsy is under question. todd? >> jed, great to see you again. dr. baden who served as the new york city chief medical examiner confirming to fox news that he is traveling to fox news today at the request of the floyd family. the prominent forensic pathologist known for his work in the jeffrey epstein case expected to perform independent autopsy of george floyd. dr. baden adding he would discuss his findings early next week. now, the criminal complaint against former police officer derek chauvin claims he kept his knee on george floyd's neck for 8 minutes and 30 seconds including three minutes after floyd stopped moving and talking. official autopsy saying there was nothing to support strangulation as a cause of death including the combined effects being strained. potential intoxicants in floyd's system and underlying issues
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including heart disease like little contributed to his death. the floyd family attorney arguing that talk of a heart condition was irrelevant because floyd was walking and breathing before his contact with police adding that the family doesn't feel they can trust the minneapolis police department. you will recall that in 2014 dr. baden was hired to do an independent autopsy of eric garner who died after he was placed in a chokehold by nypd officers video showing him pleading for his life saying he could not breathe. dr. baden has been a fox news contributor since 2003. back to you. jedediah: thank you, todd. as protests escalate into violent riots. reports of police officers being shot at in the streets of minneapolis overnight this as an nypd van is torched. we are live on the ground want to hour with that
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♪ [shouting] [chanting black lives matter] jedediah: violence and outrage spreading from minneapolis to major cities across the country including atlanta, new york, and d.c. over the death of george floyd. griff: in portland, oregon a police station is overrun by protesters chasing officers out of their own department. pete: and in oakland, california, a car drives through a store, leaves broken glass everywhere. scenes like this, guys, across the country last night. welcome to the third hour of "fox & friends" even though it's 7:00 a.m. on the east coast. we came up an hour early to cover what's been happening across the country all night long jedediah billa here as well
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as griff jenkins. thank you both. it is disturbing to see what's going on fourth day going into a fifth was a protest about police injustice as it pertains to george floyd descending into all out rioting and burning down of cities and neighborhoods, destruction of livelihoods and you saw, you see those split pictures right there. it was outside the white house in washington, d.c. chicago, new york, we're going to have a report from barclay's in brooklyn shortly. in washington, d.c., detroit, oakland, memphis, many cities, dallas not even listed there. i know i was watching rivetted last night as, you know, you thought local authorities, griff, would be more prepared for the fact that this may escalate considering it has taken a while for the wheels of justice to move. but, yet again, especially in minneapolis, local officials seemed overwhelmed and unprepared. griff: that's right. the situation here in d.c. brought an assault actually on one of our reporters. we will talk about that later. but, really minneapolis has been
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ground zero for what has spread across the nation and certainly that early hands off approach caused a lot of lawlessness we are seeing and we continue to check in with matt finn in minneapolis where businesses are still sadly shockingly burning. matt, good morning. >> good morning. another violent and destructive night here in minneapolis. this is an o'reilly auto parts that we just watched burn to the ground. differential from the auto zone not far from here that was just burned. throughout the night we saw several other fires, looters, target, atms, smash into stores and fill their hands with loot and then run back out through chards of glass to escape. total lawlessness in many parts of this major city. a free-for all. the governor says people shot at law enforcement. and calls this a fluid, dangerous situation. >> the absolute chaos.
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this is not grieving. and this is not -- this is not making a statement. our neighborhoods are afraid. people are watching this across and they want to know what's happening. >> that governor says this is now the largest law enforcement deployment in state history an expected 1700 national guard troops on the ground. the state department of public safety says it's reassessed its strategies from protesters to battling armed entrenched rioters here in minneapolis. back to you guys. brian: matt, have you done great reporting for us all night and all morning long. and as has been mentioned multiple times. there was a curfew it was ignored. you mentioned the resistance police are facing, the rioters. how familiar of that is local and how much of that is outside outsidage antifa or other groups there willing to try stoke the flames, if you will, and agitate
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more confrontation of police and in the community? >> i can't independently confirm if any protesters have come from outside places or organizations or groups. but, there is understanding that people from outside of minneapolis have made their way here and i believe state officials drug cartels are trying to take advantage of this situation. so, what often begins as a peaceful protest or a demonstration is hijacked by bad actors. absolutely. jedediah: matt, i just had a quick question, what is the sentiment on the ground among law enforcement about the national guard potentially coming right now? >> well, the national guard has been here. they were here yesterday. and they were protecting first responders and fire crew. and i'm sure that they are appreciate yackettinappreciatin.
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have done an excellent job protecting the fire crews and making those human barriers and shields to keep protesters or rioters away from law enforcement. so, i can only imagine that in many cases the national guard is very much appreciated. griff: hey, matt, what are the people on the ground there saying when you are actually in that community, you know, we saw the local state senator from that third police district. she is a democrat. she was terrified that there was no police. as you are now talking to the people in that community, what are they saying to you. >> there is a reoccurring sentiment where are police? where are fire crews? there is a bunch of neighbors here right now who we just said where are the fire crews? they did finally arrive. they are overwhelmed. the governor said. the officials said they are overwhelmed. there is no way that they could handle everything that is going on in this city right now. so there are neighbors that are terrified. you know, driving around here there are homes not far from
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here. and our crew is saying a lot of people probably feel like if they go to bed with r. they going to wake up to their own house on fire. it's got to be horrifying for people who want no part of this type of defings. and then, of course, there are the bad actors and there is gravity and spray paint all over that say blanket police. don't abuse your power. so, there is a lot of very strong sentiment on both sides. griff: i can imagine. excellent reporting matt, thank you. pete: one thing to take issue with what happened to george floyd which is clear and being done and justice needs to be served. these communities also step back and say we live here and rely on law enforcement just like everyone else does to preserve the calm and peace and prosperity that we want for our lives. and when that's removed, things quickly devolve, and you see scenes like this which you should not be seeing in major american cities in this country. this is where it's come. to say look at those images,
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humvees through streets in burning buildings no police presence or little because effective live the mob is running the scene there. griff: you know, pete, i want to take your question you put that question to matt just quickly, jed, you had asked matt about how much of this group did we see in minneapolis as being from the outside. and until we actually get that from the police, he can't answer that but, in detroit, the police chief there did put out, of course, an individual lost his life in detroit last night. we saw some 47 people being arrested. the police chief saying that three fourths of them were from the outside. so, on top of the challenge that law enforcement has to combat the unrest. you have outside infiltrators coming for one reason. and that is to cause chaos. we talked to darrin porcher a little earlier about law enforcement, what they have to do to combat it. here's what they had to say. >> we want to acknowledge people's constitutional rights to protest. but, at the same token, when these people's rights are
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infringing upon others, or i should say when people are not acknowledging the laws and they are not acting as law abiding citizens, therefore, it's necessary for law enforcement to do what they have to do to instill a level of normalcy in the society. if you do nothing, the problem exsass per rates and that's what is equating to the actions that are occurring in minnesota. jedediah: we are going to head over now to aishah hasnie a planned peaceful protest has turned violent in brooklyn, new york. rioters torching an nypd van as hundreds of protesters storm a police precinct. aishah joins us now with the firsthand look at the damage. >> good morning, guys. yeah. it's quiet here this morning as police assess the damage. there is quite a bit of it. let's take a closer look at what i am seeing here on the ground at the 88th precinct. this is a police cruiser completely smashed to bits.
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the wind doughs have been shattered out. the tireless are deflated. it's been tagged. and basically looks like it was in a car accident. and it's not just a police vehicle, guys. if you walk over this way. this actually looks like somebody's personal car. it has massachusetts license plate on it. and it's been smashed to bits as well. there is another police truck right behind it. so, quite a mess here at the 88th precinct here. now, last night, cameras caught protesters burning a blue lives matter flag as they vandalize police vehicles in the area. hundreds of them moved through the area. now, at that point, nypd was mobilizing at a level 4. meaning that all officers nearby, they have to be here and respond. big crowds were also seen clashing with police outside of barclay center last night. some were throwing water bottles at police. there are lots of videos circulating now pushing and shoving. at one pointe police sprayed pepper spray into the crowd.
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possibly even two new york city officials caught up in. this a new york state senator says tweeting last night that he was handcuffed in all of this. now, nypd says dozens were arrested last night we don't have an exact number of how many folks were taken in. images circulating all over social media. protesters setting fire to a police van. mayor bill de blasio reportedly was in brooklyn last night attempting to deescalate the situation. he tweeted. this he said we have a long night ahead of us in brooklyn. our sole focus is descalating the situation. getting people home safe. there will be a full review of what happened tonight. we don't ever want to see another night like this. and the question, guys, now is what are we going to see today and tonight? there are a number of protests scheduled for today. a big one scheduled for, i believe, about tw 2 oar 3:00 lar
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this afternoon. the first one starts at harlem at 1:00. that's the question i imagine that not only police but folks that live in these areas. this is a nice neighborhood. there is a university right here. there is parks close by. people have families. people want to know what can they expect later on tonight? guys? pete: aishah, thank you very much. we appreciate it. it is all about what happens tomorrow. in the case of minneapolis. we are going to play some sound in a second. this is the fourth day going into the fifth. if you watched the governor and the mayor yesterday in their press conference, they were confused. there was conflicting information. they didn't know in the national guard would be deployed. how many, when, where, what their mission was. it was amazing to watch. last night almost demoralized. the left wing leadership of that city incapable of getting their arms around the issue and backing up law enforcement doing what's necessary to bring peace to the streets which all the citizens of minneapolis deserve. but they also -- the citizens there demanding also justice in this case and there has been
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murder charges brought against the one officer, pending charges potentially against the other three. we had brett tolman on the program earlier. former federal prosecutor, talking about what charges might be brought. and where this may go in minneapolis. listen. >> everyone needs to realize that this is definitely just the beginning of the prosecution of this officer and perhaps even more. third degree charge, keep in mind is, a murder charge. they don't want to charge something that when they get down the road they are going to have problems with. and imagine the communities, you've response, you know, if they fail to get a conviction in this case. they have chosen wisely. that's just one part of it. there is a federal case out there that's potentially very substantial. it is a potential life sentence even the possibility of a death sentence. pete: jed, here is one of the unfortunate parts we are 13 minutes after the top of the hour. we are talking about riots and
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looting until we get to the actual issue of justice in the case. jedediah: yeah. what's so sued about it is nonviolent protests are such a corner stone of our republic. people should be upset about what happened to george floyd. and i don't blame them for wanting to make their voices heard. the problem is that when you turn it to violence and you turn it to rioting, not only is it counter productive but you are destroying some the very communities that keep so many people afloat. it's so completely senseless, it accomplishes nothing. and the fact that it accomplishes bad things. because then you have negative economic impact in those communities and whatnot. so, it's sad to see something that could be so meaningful seeing crowds of people protesting nonviolently an injustice to a member of their community, i would be applauding that to see this violence though, you have to condemn it at every turn. and it's just sad that this is where -- what protest is becoming in so many areas of the country so often. griff: tough condemn it, jed and
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you have to put an end to it. i remember in baltimore corner of north and penn ground zero for riots. cvs, a community trying for years to get it there because they needed it. it was the first thing they burned down. we are seeing that again across the country, sadly certainly in minneapolis last night. all right. guys. still ahead. with the riots across the country, how does our nation move forward? senator marsha blackburn has a message for america. she will join us coming up. it's best we stay apart for a bit,
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cities across the u.s. griff: now the pentagon is ordering the u.s. army to prepare its military police amid the nationwide violent acts. jedediah: lucas tomlinson joining us live from the pentagon with the army's plan to stop the riots. lucas, what's the latest? >> good morning, guys, in a hasty press conference at 1:30 this morning minnesota's governor says he has spoken to top pentagon brass and more help can be on his way to quell the violence. >> contact today and had extensive conversation with. >> jenna: son harrington and general millie chief of the joint staff ways to help assess the situation as they are seeing it on the ground and to put those things in to a plan to operate today. >> as we heard earlier from matt finn violence continued overnight. top general says 1200 additional guard soldiers will join the 500 mobilized earlier this week making it the largest deployment in minnesota state history.
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active duty forces could also be on the way soon. military police unions have been put on. tenth mountain division has been told red to deploy in four hours in needed. deploying active duty forces is not without precedent. 1992, thousands were deployed in rodney king riots in l.a. the part of the 18th airborne corps which also keeps alert brigade ready to deploy overseas on short notice. perhaps now here in the heartland, guys? pete: this could be a detail that i am missing but is there a difference between what federalized troops can do from activated national guard troops as far as helping to keep the peace? >> there is long standing laws on the books including the act which forbids title 10 forces active duty military from serving in law enforcement capacity. this is this insurrection act from 1807 that says that active duty forces can be mobile blitzed if the president says it's an emergency, if he thinks
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that's needed. as we saw back in 1992, up to 4,000 soldiers and marines deployed to los angeles during the rodney king riots to stop the violence, pete. griff: lucas, i don't want to put you on the spot, but the fact that it's military police, does that creates a disa distinction that would allow them to better partner with people like the minnesota state police in trying to restore order? >> absolutely, griff. of course. military police units. this is their job. they train to quell violence when they deploy to war zones. they are not necessarily, you know, taking the houses as did during the iraq war. they are trained to do cordon and police. that is their job. they are police officers in the active duty. so they would certainly augment any kind of national guard forces and local law enforcement. >> as we heard from the governor early this morning in that press conference he said we are outmanned, outgunned, we need help. when the president called the pentagon and told the defense secretary he needs help, these
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are the forces that are being considered. griff: thanks, lucas. pete: great information, we appreciate it. jedediah: thank you. griff: coming up, images of unrest drawing comparison what happened to ferguson six years ago which i witnessed firsthand from events on the ground. business owners still struggling to rebuild after his was destroyed during ferguson. his warning to the rioters destroying their own community coming up. available over-the-counter. new voltaren is powerful arthritis pain relief in a gel. voltaren. the joy of movement.
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at the corner of ferguson and vest -- [chanting] griff: some of the residents here are upset, stolen from this business off the wall. you can see the window where they broke to get in. >> when i got down here, i found out, you know, that the whole riot thing and looting. >> my dad was sitting at home, again, watching his place literally almost getting burned to the ground. >> when was the last time they tried to break in. >> they actually tried to break in last night. >> the looting and destruction in 2014 cost ferguson and ajay kent communities untold millions. our next guest still feels the impact today of the damage to his business. complete auto body and repair. kurt, good morning to you. >> good morning. griff: what are your thoughts this morning as you watch this unfold? >> i spent a lot of the last couple nights staying up way too late watching it. it brings back a lot of anxiety. it reminds me of the continued stress we go through on a daily basis.
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griff: kurt, that began in 2014 in august. we had another wave come fall around november and then a year later in ferguson you still had actions. what is the concern as you watch this spread across the country in areas that were not directly impacted by that law enforcement community? >> so, the impact that lasted year literally has lasted five years. it continues today. i had really prayed that this was in our past and no one else would have to experience what we went through there is a lot of businesses that never came back that lost throughout that time. we were fortunate to have multiple locations. yeah. the financial impact was millions of dollars the emotional impact was irrevocable. insane. griff: it is sure is i talked to the mayor -- i texted with ferguson's mayor last night. he said the sad thing is that even still the underlying issues weren't addressed because of
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this impact all of this damage, was it worth it? >> absolutely not. there was no reason for it the people that came in the opportunist that took advantage of a bad situation like they did in minnesota disgusting. none of our people lived there. they came there to destroy things and almost were paid to be there to destroy things. it was horrible. and, again, the damage it caused to a community that was the largest walking population in missouri that goes to a grocery store. goes to a gas station was pretty much burned to the ground. and it's disgusting. and it hurts a lot. griff: the impact, kurt, i was talking earlier about a drugstore cvs in baltimore that had been needed that community for a long time the first thing burned. is the community there with the businesses, are you worried that you are going to see other communities that are under served already take a worse hit because of this?
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>> absolutely. ferguson is a great community. i love it. i support it heavily. i'm actually trying to only another business there with that community. but the problem being is the income level is not high income level. it's just people that are really working hard to struggle and be middle class and eliminates their ability to do things by taking away their -- they can't even walk to go to a gas station anymore. now they have to drive and maybe they don't have a car. yeah. it's caused a lot of, i would say, fleeing. people have flighted to other cities because the resources aren't there. and the city itself is doing a great job to rebuild. but we are still years away from where we need to be. griff: that is sad to hear, kurt. you are seeing now in minneapolis the law enforcement fully admitting they don't have enough troops. they don't have enough police. they can't get control. that's going to be the fight, sadly for the next at least few days. for business owners in ferguson, how fearful are you that should
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riots begin again that law enforcement can't protect you? >> so, we go through the same thing here in st. louis. i have a lot of friends in law enforcement. and there are a lot of good police officers. and it's a shame that one becomes a label for them all. there is a lot of people that don't want to be in law enforcement anymore because of what's going on. so it's a scary time moving forward. we are very nervous and as st. louis and ferguson and everything goes through the next changes. my heart goes out to everyone that's going through this. i sat up the other night and watched things burn. and it was a very scary feeling. i was 35 years old when all this happened and proud to have a business and proud to do what we do. and it just felt like it just got ripped away from us. and it could be ripped away at any time. griff: kurt, the sentiment and anger in the streets is justified. for those that would come and do the harm. the impact they do on businesses, what would you say
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to them? >> i would say if they are going to do any harm, pick up their signs and go somewhere and make an impact instead of destroying their own community. take their energy and put it towards creating a solution versus creating a bigger problem eliminating jobs especially when people are barely back to work. enough to they don't have a place to go back to work too. these are really bad times. people need to stick together. just a month ago i thought everybody was in it together and now we have all the all this unrest. too much to put up with and anxiety people are going through is completely unfair to the business owner, the community, i tell everyone that's out there if you want to go burn something down. go in your backyard, make a bonfire. leave the businesses alone. let your community rebuild. be strong. griff: we are all in this together. kurt barks, thank you for joining us. we have to leave it there be safe. >> you, too sir. thank you. griff: coming up the fired
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police officer at the center of george floyd's death now charged with murder. how can we bring communities together and change the anti-cop narrative? we will discuss it with the panel of law enforcement coming up. through july 4th celebrate your freedom with our $17.76 oil change... that includes a tire rotation. when you're ready, your car should be too. midas.
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former mpd detective dr. oscar owe item and former nypd officer thank you for being here today. this is a very difficult news day throughout the country. jorge, let's start with you, when you see the footage unfolding right now of this conflict between law enforcement in minneapolis and rioters. what do you think? >> well, i think it's terrible. it's sad. it's a terrible statement on our country as a whole that this is the way that this is manifested. the world is watching us of you who we have handled this. and it's embarrassing. and then you have now so many people that are struggling because their properties are being damaged. vandalized. burned down that had nothing to do with this incident. it's depressing. and when you put on top of that covid-19 and this is already a depressed economy, it's just horrific.
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jedediah: dr. odom, we now have businesses that are being looted. sent up in flames. you have a police precinct that has been torched. so many -- so many of this footage is just so hard to watch. as you look forward and you think to yourself how are we ever going to bridge this divide between the community, a large part of which as rioters don't trust the police and the police who in large part aren't trying to do any harm trying to protect that community and certainly don't align themselves with derek chauvin and his who are hc behavior in that video. where do you start? >> first off, let me say condolences to george floyd family. no words can express the pain that you feel. we also pain inside the law enforcement community dealing with this. one of the things we have to step back and look at our retraining of you who we retrain to extend that olive branch. the public trust and expectation and confidence is hard to gain
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but it's easy to lose. as you stated, all officers across the country are upset with this event that took place. so training is definitely a way that we have to go back and review this because when we look at the individualsio, anvideo. hands on the pocket. knee on the neck. hands in the pocket, knee on the neck. i have never trained or seen a police officer manual that those those type of tactics. this is causing part of the pain. we have to go back and look at our retraining. how do we reevaluate. how do we train officers not to deal with this type of situation. when we say use of force. we look at use of force and looked at perceived threat. is there is a perceived threat with somebody lying down on the ground with handcuffs and then your hands are in the pocket. if it's a threat your hands shouldn't be in your pocket. therefore, we have to go back to extend that olive branch to show them we are going to do the retraining to have them a part of it so we can build this
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bridge together. jedediah: eb, what do you make of the u.s. army potentially getting involved? obviously this is already a very tense situation between community and local law enforcement. now potentially the army comes n large part becauses. of the law enforcement is feeling that they need that assistance right now. what happens now? do those tensions rise? does it deescalate the situation? what's your guess as to how this unfolds next few days. >> deescalate the people community don't want to deal with law enforcement. they are angry with law enforcement in general. so i think also, you have a group of people. everyone is frustrated. this is not something that's new. this is something that people have been voicing their opinions on for years and so now this happens and they are thinking you know what? no one is hearing me. you want me to peacefully protest every time we do peacefully protest it doesn't lead us anywhere. to some degree we will have to allow people to vent and to let this out. at the same time, as my peers were saying earlier, you are only hurting your community. you are hurting people that had
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nothing to do with this. and then also being angry at all of law enforcement. this is not representative of all of law enforcement. so the way we don't want to stereotype people we shouldn't stereotype all of law enforcement. most people that go to law enforcement, the majority, they do it because they want to help. because they want to too good. even going back to training as my other panelist was saying, training is a huge thing, the probable we have with training is that we are not a national police force. we have 17,000 law enforcement entities in the united states. and this is why we keep having this recurring problem. a country like britain has one national police force. one head, one hierarchy, and they can implement those changes. so here we have got all these different 123450ugss operating on their own level. training on their own level, whether they have experience or the right resources and so this is why we see this discrepancy, this drastic discrepancy between police departments and police departments and law enforcement
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entity. so i just think it's going to take some time. jedediah: jorge, one of the concerns from the rioters they are saying we want accountability. they are concerned about this third degree manslaughter charge. they believe it should be second or in some cases they believe it should be first. they are concerned that these other officers that were on the scene will not be held to proper account. what do you say to those who are chosen to act out in violence because that's the means that they think will be effective in terms of reaching a solution that advocates for justice for george floyd. >> well, that's where it's important to communicate and quite frankly we traditionally have just done a terrible job in communicating a process. people need to know. i understand the thought that this should be a first degree murder charge. because that brings the greatest penalty. in minnesota, if you wanted to charge someone with first degree murder. you have to impanel a grand jury. obviously that takes time. you essentially present
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evidence. almost like a mini trial. that takes time. you also only get one chance at this. and so you want to make sure that you are able to build a case that you are going to be able to prosecute in court and get a conviction. because if you go to court and you lose, you have lost your chance. you can't go back and try a second time and if you think people are upset now, can you imagine what would happen if there was an acquittal in the case? so, the state, what they're going to consider is what gives us the best chance to convict this person so there is justice and so people can see that we are going to hold people accountable when they act this way in such a callus manner and take someone's life needlessly. jedediah: i want to thank you all for being here, obviously. this is a very tense situation that will likely remain so for the next few days. we will stay on it and we appreciate your input very much. we will head over now to griff jenkins for headlines. griff: thanks, jed. the wife of fired police officer derek chauvin filing for
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divorce. kelly making the move an 10 years of marriage after her husband's role in the death of george floyd. a statement reading in part she is devastated by mr. floyd's death and yute utmost sympathy h his family. former russian ambassador to the u.s. released. sanctions with sergey kislyak despite him telling the fbi and vice president pence that he did not. flynn telling kislyak to quote make it reciprocal. don't go any further than you have to because i don't want us to get into something that has to escalate. film's conversations with the ambassador were a key concern in the russia probe. and to the high court overnight, the supreme court rejecting an emergency appeal against limits on church services. the challenge was filed by a california church it claimed the state was violating the first amendment by limiting attendance
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due to the coronavirus. judge john roberts sided with the liberal judges in a 5-4 decision. and elon musk and spacex hoping the skies are clear today for their second attempt at launching astronauts into space. african selling 17 minutes before launch wednesday because of bad weather. forecasters giving today's launch a 50/50 chance. liftoff is scheduled for 3:22 presidential ministry p.m. if it goes off it will mark the first spaceflight of nasa astronauts space soil in nine years. those are your headlines. here is hoping for clear skies. still ahead, atlanta seeing a wave of violence overnight with rioters torching cars and looting stores. georgia congressman gary louder milk joins us neck with the situation in his home state.
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pete: we are back with a fox news alert. georgia's governor declaring a state of emergency deploying the national guard as violence erupts in atlanta city known for peaceful protests in the days of mlk. turning violent as riots set fire to police cars and destroying downtown streets congressman barry loudermilk joins us now. thank you for joining us. when you look at those scenes in atlanta. who do you blame and what do you make of the riots that have unfolded. >> riots is exactly right, pete. these are not protests. this is not in the light of martin luther king jr. who is one of my heroes in american history as a revolutionary. he fought for equal rights. what we are seeing is people attacking those and their property that had nothing to do with this. this is a travesty. justice must be served in the
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death of this man in minnesota. but, what they are doing is they are taking away rights of other people, many in their own community. they are destroying their own community. so we have to have law. we have to have justice. we have to have peace. peaceful protest is what martin luther king jr. was all about. pete: you talk about justice. but when it turns into riots, the gaze turns away from the case of george floyd and toward something very different. if you are smashing the headquarters of cnn and jumping on police cars, that does a disservice to whatever cause you say you are doing. also, do you have any sense that this is all people from atlanta or do you have people coming in from the inside or groups that you think may be a part of this as well? >> you know, pete, it's really hard to tell because you and i both served in the military. they are turning into the things that we have seen in overseas countries that we fought to keep from being here in america. and when you look at this objectively, i was in the
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intelligence community. this seems a little too orchestrated to be randomly, you know, -- random protest going on across the nation i think there has to be investigation into this eventually. but, immediately we have to have the protection of the rights of the people in these cities so they don't continue to be violated by these rioters. pete: quickly, we don't have much time left, what should law enforcement do to prevent a repeat of this scene tonight? >> they are going to have to come out in force and show that they are not going to allow -- look, constitutionally, the government is there to protect the rights of the citizens. and that's all the rights. that is the rights of your life, that is the rights of your property. that's your rights to live peaceably. and so the government is going to have to come out not just in the idea of squelching these riots, but to come out to protect the lives and the property and the livelihood of
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those citizens that are in those communities. i can imagine the majority of those citizens and the communities want the police protection. pete: of course. absolutely. congressman barry loudermilk, thanks for being on the program. we appreciate it. >> thank you, pete. pete: still ahead, violence escalating in cities across america. but is what we are seeing protesting with a purpose or have they devolved into lawless riots? we will ask lawrence jones, who breaks down the key difference on that after the break. for all.
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ground. griff: fox news contributor lawrence jones joins us now to react. lawrence, another night. this one now lawlessness spreading across the country. what are your thoughts this morning. >> this is heart breaking because it was supposed to be about mr. floyd what. people condemn as automatic. i have been on the ground reporting on this before. now that i'm at fox i have been in these protests. most of the people that start the looting and start to set things on fire, they are not from the town you look at the arrest reports specially the next day, you realize when the officers take the id and processes them, most of the people are from outside of the city that's why they don't care
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about you will tearing down the cities because there is no imply occasion on their lives. people that care about the cities are there peacefully protesting. this is sad today. this may be the worst week of my career because i have had the balance of criticism of law enforcement the fact that i have had to bring the reality of a black man and some of the experiences i have had and criticize the people not doing the right thing by not doing constitutional peaceful protests. i'm drained, y'all. and i'm praying for america i'm praying we will get peace across the country and the state will stop abusing their power. have you all seen me during this pandemic being very critical of the state. this has been going on in communities that i share with for a long time as well.
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there is such a balance so many angles with. this we need peace but we also need justice as well. pete: lawrence we really appreciate your -- go ahead, jed. jedediah: i'm sorry, pete. i wanted to ask you about colin kaepernick. something interesting that's transpired. he said he is going to set up a fund to pay the legal bills for protesters. he is calling them protesters. i'm trying to figure out is he talking about peaceful protesters or is he talking about setting up a fund to pay legal bills for rioters who are burning down other people's businesses and harming other people? does it make sense to you? >> it depends. i was trying to figure out who he was targeting if he is paying for peaceful protesters, i have no problem with it. if he is paying for anarchist then you become part of the problem. you can't burn down atlanta. why would you burn down atlanta when they are bringing in black
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businesses, bringing in economic development to help the community? there are so many places in this country right now that are developing community. special when there was low tax cuts and people able to get opportunity zone money. that wouldn't make sense. i would like a clarification from collin. pete: if you are a peaceful protester you shouldn't be getting arrested. we will follow that i want to thank you for your insight and passion you have on the channel we appreciate it? >> thanks, guys. pete: you got it, lawrence. jedediah: thanks, lawrence. still ahead we continue to follow the unviolence and unrest acoacross the country as the president calls for the military to be ready in case it escalates more. we are live at the top of the hour.
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[shouting] [[bleep]] chanting i can'[chanting i can'] jedediah: violence and outrage spreading including atlanta, new york and d.c. pete: new video out of nebraska forcing officers to spray mace. griff: rioters in dallas smash ago police car and setting off fireworks as they take over city streets. a lawless problem now across the country. i'm griff jenkins in d.c. where we had protests and riots last night as well. jed, pete, up there in new york where we saw aishah hasnie in
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brooklyn, just an unbelievable night coast to coast in a troubling situation now. pete: yeah, griff. it was riots. you saw what happened outside the white house. one of our colleagues, a fox news reporter chased away from there by a very angry mob of people. and it's one thing to have take issue with what happened to george floyd. but that is not what is happening or not what's being represented when you are burning cop cars and smashing buildings and destroying the headquarters of cnn in atlanta. that has nothing to do with protests. and that's the difficulty we are facing right now, jed. you want to talk about the topic at hand. but, instead, we are talking about utter lawlessness. jedediah: yeah. it's really difficult to see the massive level of destruction going on as you said in cities around the country. particularly in minneapolis. so we are going to go straight to matt finn who is in minneapolis where businesses are still burning. matt, what's the latest? >> just shocking destruction this morning. this is o'reilly auto parts that
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we watched burn and fire crews now have control over the fire there was also a auto zone that we watched burn to the ground. to my left a locally owned garage that was also lit on fire and also just brought under control by fire crews. throughout the night here in minneapolis. we saw several other fires. we saw looters target stores and atms, they would smash the store fronts, smash into windows. fill their hands with loot and they run back out. lawlessness, basically a free for all throughout the night here in minneapolis. the governor says people shot at law enforcement and calls this a fluid, dangerous situation. >> this is the largest civilian deployment in minnesota we have out there today. quite candidly now, we do not have the numbers. we cannot arrest people when we are trying to hold ground because of the shear size, the dynamics and within a done violence that's coming out there.
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>> this morning the state department of public safety says it's reassessed its strategy from facilitating protesters to battling, quote, armed, entrenched rioters. back to you guys. pete: matt, thanks for all your reporting. it's shocking on the fourth night minnesota authorities, the governor, the mayor, jacob frey seems to still be flat-footed and caught off guard. there was a curfew last night that was supposed to take place at 8:00 there was no law enforcement presence as people totally ignored it. the governor mentioned that they can't be making arrests. do you know if any arrests have been made as you see the utter violence and destruction has anyone been held accountable yet are there shifts in strategy tonight to actually take that to the next level? i know there has been arrest. i don't have the latest tally right now. in general, we have crisscrossed large portions of the city on foot and by car. just a few hours ago before the sun rose, we saw, i personally saw people, you know, smash
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their way into a store and walk out with loot. we drove by a gas station and there were people circled around an atm trying to rip it out. so, by and large, there is lots of lawlessness happening here. and basically, anybody who wanted to, you know, perhaps gain access to a store or burn down an auto parts store certainly had the ability to do so. pete: matt flynn, thank you for your time. we appreciate it this morning. sometimes you say stay safe and don't really mean and it then moments like this when reporters are out there bringing us the ground truth story. he was talking last night, people around the corner were baseball bats, totally uncertain what happens next in that situation. and it's almost the worst case scenario when a governor declare as curfew and then ignores it. the people feel like the authority, the emperor has no clothes and the ability to maintain the peace that you are supposed to maintain. we're going to bring this david webb now, fox news contributor and radio talk show host.
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david, you have been watching all our coverage this morning across the country. when something that could have been a protest devolves into lawless riots, what does that do to the actual righteous cause of something you were supposed to be trying to highlight? >> it throws it away. it dishonors george floyd's memory. it dishonors the process in america for justice he deserves justice. we can never bring him back but he and his family deserve that this is now about the riots. it actually doesn't matter from some ways. i know people don't like to hear this. how many people want to peacefully protest at this point. they are not the focus. we saw this in ferguson. and this is what is happening again. the riots have become the focus. they are the ones that are causing the damage. they are spreading through america. they are spreading through the cities. and this is why it is important for the president to take a look at this. and say what do we do to quell this? in 1992, post rodney king
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incident, we have the riots around the trial -- around the trial and what happened around america. so, we need to consider that there may need to be federal involvement and the governor of minnesota just said it. can't get a handle on this situation but, yet, objects to the president saying that we may have to get involved. jedediah: david, we know the pentagon has ordered army to prepare military police. obviously that would not be received well by rioters. what -- how do you see this playing out? if the u.s. army was called in. does that deescalate the situation immediately? does it escalate it? how does this work in a situation with high crisis mode right now. >> it's already escalated. and, frankly, it's not about the rioters. it's about stopping them because you have to protect the citizenry. you have to protect the property. you have to protect the police departments who need additional
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help? flint firefighters union to protect fire and e.m.s. fire crews cannot go out and battle fires when there is a threat against the fire -- the personnel. so, what do you need to do? you need to bring, in you know, a heavier response. you need to deal with the rioters. look, earlier i said. this this is a situation where there is no control or a lack of control, this locate mowive is running. and it's going to have -- be more of a train wreck if they don't do something now. there is a lot of other things we have to watch for. where are these protests starting to spring up and where are they turning to riots? they are being very deliberate in where they pick their spots. they want media attention. they want access to businesses think are going into in the case of miami. there is one now being planned. they are going to coral gables. it says in their notes they are going to the white neighborhoods. now, i happen to know that there are black people living in coral cablegables they let me know thy want to see this in their
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neighborhood and devolve into a riot. you had the miami police chief on. he has addressed this with the commission yesterday in their commission meeting. all the commissioners. all the police cheenks all the leadership in this country should be really concerned about this. griff: david, let me ask you because you are saying we need this heavy response. you and i have been on the ground in places like ferguson and baltimore. we did seat outside individuals come in for one intentional purpose and that was to cause chaos and in many cases burn buildings and cars down. cause massive vandalism. let's call this what this is, these are criminals coming inside i ask you is it time that they round up when they arrest these people to charge them with a heavier charge like domestic terrorism future attacks from happening? >> look, we have seen griff and you are right, we saw this in ferguson they walked by you and me and went on to their rioting. with antifa, they have been classified by law enforcement. we need to look at these groups,
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black lives matter. you and i saw that forest in ferguson that became a national disgrace in this country. and those groups need to be dealt with like that. they are bringing in the enabler. you may not be charging that individual with domestic terrorism. >> but hit them with every other state and local charge you can and it's time to start zip tying their hands instead of tying the hands of law enforcement. >> pete: too intentional instead of spontaneous when you look at all the dots. i want to get your thoughts real quick, david, on the actual source of where this was supposed to be what that was supposed to be about. the family put out a statement in light that the officers was arrested and charged with murder. he said the arrest of former minneapolis police officer derek schawfchauvin for the killing of george floyd is a welcome but overdue step on the road to justice.
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we expect to see first degree murder charge. we want a first degree murder charge. and we want to see the other officers arrested. we call for authorities to revise the charges to reflect true culpability of this officer. they third degree murder. they are calling for first degree murder. dolls that cause for more space for violence, uncertainty, chaos because expectations are high and probably won't be met? >> this is a difficult one. the charge and the higher the charge makes the public feel good i have talked to a number of prosecutors about this who looked at their ability to charge and the type of charges which doesn't preclude that there can be additional charges under minnesota law or under federal law as the federal components come into play. civil rights violations, other things that can come. this is something that we should push pause on watch it carefully.
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if they are reticent to charge appropriately. then people, the family and others should speak out. jedediah: just quickly, shouldn't those other officers be charged with something. >> they should be charged. there is one of the biggest problems right now that is not being addressed by the protesters. some are addressing it to be fair. but you had other officers who had a responsibility, regardless of hot commands officer or the supervisor is on the scene, they had a responsibility to step in they knew better. they failed. one of the other officers, asian officers had several complaints against them. this needs to be looked into and they need to be charged. griff: all right, david webb, a lot more on that to come, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. griff: turning now to your headlines, a planned peaceful protest turning violent in brooklyn, new york. rioters torching an nypd van as hundreds stormed a police precinct.
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more than 3,000 people gathered outside of barclay's center chanting "i can't breathe." later seen thoughin thoughing ot police. 200 people were arrested. more protests are planned for today. >> president trump taking action against china for its coronavirus response. watch. >> the chinese government has continually violated its promises to us and so many other nations. the world is now suffering as a result of the malfeasance of the chinese government. griff: the president is suspending visas of chinese students suspected of conducting research for the chinese country. hong kong status amid protests over a national security law in the region. and a person who attended this ozarks party attends positive for coronavirus. health officials say the unnamed party goer one day potentially.
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thousands of people packed a pool side bar over memorial day weekend. health officials released time line to tell them of the possible exposure to the virus. pete: also worth noting there is a stay-at-home order in minneapolis and many of these places across the country. not a lot of social distancing happening from these rioters either. just saying at this moment. coming up. businesses already hard hit by the covid-19 pandemic, now facing another challenge as looters and rioters destroy their property. how will the violence impact we will ask to former obama economic advisor robert wolf about that fede coming up next.
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jedediah: it's a fox news alert. violence and riots erupting across the country over the death of george floyd. rioters looting, causing damage to small businesses already struggling from setbacks from the coronavirus. so how will this impact their local economies? let's ask fox news contributor and former economic advisor to president obama. robert wolf. robert, welcome to the show today, obviously. very difficult day in news covering what's going on in minneapolis and around the country. i want to focus with you first on these riots and on this destruction. we are seeing so many businesses being destroyed. these businesses are coming off of in many cases a shutdown as a result of the coronavirus. they have lost a lot of business already. so it's -- they are in dire straits to begin with. what is going to be the impact of these riots in a place like minneapolis? >> jed, thanks for asking me, that's a tough day for everyone. let's be clear. income and race inequality, these are american failures, right? these are human rights issue.
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and we are seeing the ugliness right in front of us from who is most impacted of the pandemic and now obviously the loss of life which we have recently seen which was truly a murder. these are making these protests just go viral. i think the question is the following. what does the federal government need to do to, one, lower the crisis but, also, make sure that we're handling this pandemic and the economy the right way. what i have been saying all along and we have spoken about it is one we need a cares act 4.0, why? we have unemployment north of 25%. the two most impacted groups right now are small businesses. this payroll protection program that the federal government has come out with it's nice it's 650 billion and that's a ton of money. only helped about 12% of our businesses which is why we have already had 40 million people look for jobless claims. the other part which talks about minneapolis and where protests are is away from that as well is
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who is actually working on the pandemic. it's the front line workers. it's police, fire, emt, first responders, which is also why cares act 4.0 we need the state's help. remember, jedediah, they need to have an annual budget every year at zero. they can have no deficit. so if they have a deficit because of covid-19, and now because of riots, they are going to have to cut services. what services do they have to cut? it's police, fire, emt, education. so in my opinion, congress should get back to work and make sure we are taking care of the states that need it and the small businesses. jedediah: that's one issue we are dealing with obviously is the economy. the other issue is this divide between the police and the community. and that's going to be something that president trump will have to address. that's something that joe biden will be asked about in terms of how it should be addressed, the historical significance of this and what can and should be implemented moving forward to sort of bring those communities together and where it should
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come from. should it come from federal government. local government and whatnot. former president barack obama weighed in on some of this. i want to read what he said and then we will get your reaction. he said this shouldn't be normal in 2020 america. it can't be normal. if we want our children to grow up in a nation that lives up to its highest ideals we can and must do better it. falls on all of us to work together to create a new normal in which the legacy of bigotry and treatment no longer infects our institutions our our hearts. what do you make of his statement? >> well, jed, obviously i agree with it wholeheartedly. i'm on the board of the obama foundation. and the whole idea of that is about civic engagement. and community engagement. and when we see these protests at the forefront of it, let's not confuse the loss of life versus the loss of property. and i heard one of your -- one of your guest this morning talk about martin luther king. and the fact is, martin luther king would not want these protests to turn into riots. so, of course we need --
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jedediah: robert, and we are running out of time. i think it's also incumbent upon these leaders, be it president obama or president trump to distinguish between a riot or a protest. it's not the same thing. a peaceful protest should not be equated with a riot that destroys people's livelihood and businesses and whatnot. those are two different things. i appreciate you being here as always. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me on. jedediah: still ahead with riots cross the country how does your nation move forward. senator marsha blackburn has a message for america. she joins us live next. it's time for the memorial day sale on the
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alert. outrage escalating overnight over the death of george floyd as demonstrators took streets nationwide, including throughout tennessee. some of the protests in other states escalating into riots as well. pete: many of them. here to discuss marsha blackburn. senator, thank you for being here this morning. >> good to be with you. pete: you see some protests but it's very important to distinguish the rioting and looting and the violence that we are seeing. how do we put this back on the tracks? >> and that is the question i think millions of americans are asking this morning. of course, everyone grieves over what we saw with the video with mr. floyd. and you want to see justice for that your family wants to see justifiable and deserves it. and i so appreciated alveda king's remarks this morning. she is a wonderful spiritual leader and how important it is to focus on achieving that
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peace. and when you say how do you future back together, you are saying how do we achieve that peace? how do we restore trust and faith in our institutions. how do we lead people to opportunity so that they are going to seek a better life. you know, have you talked all morning, all three of you have interviewed guests and talked about the impact on these communities. and how disruptive the rioting and jedediah was just talking about the loss of livelihood. in some of these communities and how impactful it is. so, you will see us at the senate judiciary committee under chairman graham's leadership begin to hold some hearings and look at what is happening with use of force. with policing in cities and working to build bonds. how can we build these bonds between communities to reach a
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time peacefulness of productivity, of opportunity, and of understanding between communities. jedediah: senator, there has been some talk about failures of local leadership in this case, particularly with respect to the mayor. we are talking about minneapolis. but, in your opinion, what should federal leadership look like? what should presidential leadership look like at a time like this? >> well, our police forces and our sheriff's department are at county and municipal level. and then, of course, you have your highway patrol, which is the entity for each of the states. and i think the approach that senate judiciary will take as looking at this policing, looking at the training that is involved. looking at the relationship between these agencies. and then how those different
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agencies look. how they work with the different communities that are under their jurisdiction. now we don't have a federalized police force. and in the united states, we have never wanted that. we liked having those jurisdictions be in charge of their communities. that's why you have the sheriffs and the police forces. but, we will look at the use of force. we will look at the policing and the training and what these police academies how they are approaching some of these issues that are so important to maintaining that -- those neighborhoods that are going to be safe. that's what people -- pete: also look at what appears to be a very orchestrated violent effort from sometimes people inside communities but also from outside. it almost feels too orchestrated to be spontaneous at times. are you going to look at that as well? >> you know, pete, i think.
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so i think -- i have heard some of the reports. and we have had audio connection problems this morning, so i have been scanning different news. there is quite a bit being said about outside influences coming in to these communities. and you think about the disruptions to life and livelihood that that brings and the destruction of property. and it's important to realize peaceful protest is something that is important to us. it is something that the american citizen is allowed. these riots and destruction of property and lawlessness absolutely that is something that needs to be a part of this. a good holistic look at this. because i feel so desperately and some of the interviews that i read are people that have had their businesses destroyed. their jobs are gone. griff: senator, the police chiefs and the police forces
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across the country feel desperate as well. i want to ask you, lastly, do you anticipate if you have these hearings, calling the police chiefs from minneapolis, from ferguson, from baltimore to weigh in on what it is that they don't have and didn't have, perhaps to be ready for a night like last night? >> right. we talk a lot about the thin blue line. and that being what separates us from calm and chaos. and supporting that thin blue line, being certain they have the training and the preparation that is necessary so if there is a disruption and a right riot, t they're able to appropriately respond and keep our citizens safe. because that safety of our citizens is the vitally important. and then that sanctity of life. and appreciate life and defending life whether it is
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george floyd or whether it is the unborn. but that appreciation for protecting life. so, yes, indeed. i think you will see a wide range of individuals that are going to be called so that we know our forces have what they need to keep our community safe. pete: senator, you are right. it is that thin blue line between chaos and civility indeed. senator marsha blackburn. >> and god bless them all. griff: thank you, senator. pete: all right. coming up. his dream destroyed. next, you will hear from a firefighter who invested his life savings into a business only to have it trashed by rioters and looters. where ore-ida golden crinkles are your crispy currency to pay for bites of this... ...with this. when kids won't eat dinner, potato pay them to. ore-ida. win at mealtime.
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♪ [shouting] pete: violent riots spreading from minneapolis to several u.s. citizen cities including atlanta, new york, and washington, d.c. last night matt finn joins us live from minneapolis where businesses are still burning. matt, good morning. >> yeah, we're not far from downtown minneapolis, can you see. so remnants from the overnight riots here. apparently these looters and rioters rolled these large garbage bins out into the streets. placed a bunch of debris in and around them and then let them on fire.
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i was actually in this neighborhood last night. i saw the flames that shot up about a story or two. and there are countless businesses in this area that their windows have been shattered. i saw people personally loot some of the stores here last night. and now these business owners, these homeowners that we talked to in this area, they are cleaning up the glass. they have walked out of their front door with a broom and are sweeping up all of this destruction and this tall black building to my left here is new housing as well. so this would have been area for neighbors to move in and now a large portion of this is destroyed. and how in the distance you might be able to see, i mean, there has just been consistent black smoke lingering over this city for days now. you could smell it. you are breathing it. there are fires everywhere. so just lawlessness, chaos and destruction here in the city of minneapolis. >> matt, thank you for pointing out the impact on businesses. we appreciate it all morning long what have you been showing us. griff, over to you for more on those businesses. griff: all right, pete, thanks.
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in the wake of the chaos. small business owners are left picking up the peaces from the damage. next guest is a firefighter spent entire life basis to dream own a sports bar in his city. before that bar could open, looting and destruction burned the building to the ground. scores sports bar owner and his wife join us now. k.b. and twoina, good morning to you. tell us what's happened to your life savings and your dream. >> good morning. >> good morning. it's been -- yes, yes. i'm here. griff: tell us a little bit of what has transpired in the last 24 to 48 hours. >> the last 24 to 48 hours have been a little bit surreal. it's been kind of -- it's been hard. i started this journey back in november when i signed my lease to this new bar and restaurant. got started getting everything prepared to open at lunch. and was looking forward to it. you know, this was like a dream
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coming true. i was very excited about it in the last 20 to 48 hours, everything just disappeared. it's gone. it's burned and it hurts. it's been very hard. you know, just -- it feels like a dream right now. griff: we are looking at images of the sports bar just being destroyed. entirely destroyed. what would you say to those that committed those criminal acts? >> well, like i was saying earlier, i took my kids out there a couple days ago with the protesting. i'm all for it. what happened to floyd, we are against it. it was tragic. we was out there, you know, trying to explain it to our kids what was going on. you know, so i'm not against that and i don't want to say -- i cannot imagine what floyd and his family are going through.
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rming i'm here with life. what happened with the riot something completely different. this is, you know, talking about trying to prevent the death and what is going on in society. i don't want to get into politics right now. we are trying to prevent what's going on. but you are taking the death and making it into something completely different. when you listen to floyd everyone that really knows him how nothing he wanted all the violence. it's been hard, you know. >> i also want to say as we are stands in the restaurant and we are trying to clean up, people are coming in the back and they're trying to steal as we are in the restaurant. and we are telling them we are the owners of the restaurant. and they still stood there and looked at us and still trying to take a safe out of the restaurant. so, we haven't even opened yet. there was nothing even in the safe. that just showed us right there that there are some people right here that's doing it just to do
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it. just because. griff: just in the little bit of time we have late. let me ask you as a former firefighter how hard was it for you to watch as firefighters couldn't actually get in there and are you still a part of this? >> i was in tears. i was actually at the station when i got the call from somebody at the bar yesterday morning at like 7:00. so i was at the station. and when i got the call, you know, my chief seen me right then. i was crying. i was so emotional. and then he told me, man, you have to go home. just go home and be with your family or go check out and see what you can do. when i got there, being a firefighter and seeing your whole life saving g savings go up in smoke. that was hard yesterday just watching it. griff: k.b. and twanna, our
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hearts go out to you. thanks for fighting fires in this unbelievably difficult time. we hope the best for you. thank you for being with us. we want to tell our audience to go to foxnews.com to find out how to donate to their recovery efforts. thank you, k.b. and twana, we want the best for you. >> thank you. >> thank you, we appreciate you having us on. griff: all right, jed? jedediah: fired minneapolis officer derek chauvin now charged in george floyd's murder this as a criminal complaint reveals chauvin kneels on floyd's neck nearly three minutes after i fell unconscious. todd piro joins us with more on that report. todd? >> jed, good morning. now facing third degree murder along with second degree manslaughter charges in the death of george floyd. the 44-year-old former minneapolis police officer under arrest. the county attorney saying evidence against chauvin includes video from a bystander's cell phone. body camera footage as well as statements from witnesses and a
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preliminary report from the medical examiner. under minnesota law, third degree murder is defined as causing death of a person, quote: by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and depraved behind without regard for human life. if found guilty, chauvin cannot be sentenced to more than 25 years in prison on that third degree charge. but, the floyd family, they want something more severe. their attorney issuing a statement, quote: the arrest of former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin for the brutal killing of george floyd is a welcomed but overdue step on the road to justice. we expected a first degree murder charge, we want a first degree murder charge and we want to see the other officers arrested. we call on authorities to revise the charges to reflect the true culpability of this officer. meantime, kelly chauvin, the wife of derek chauvin filing for divorce over her husband's role. her attorney issuing a statement, quote: she is devastated by mr. floyd's death.
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her upmost sympathy lies with his family, his loved ones, and for everyone grieving. set $500,000. the county lawyer adding he expected other officers involved in the incident but did not go into detail. guys, back to you. jedediah: thank you, todd. still ahead, lawlessness takes over atlanta. rioters smashing wind dose and storming businesses. police forced to use their tear gas to control the crowd. we are live on the ground with a look at that aftermath coming up next. ♪ ♪ [ engines revving ] ♪ ♪ it's amazing to see them in the wild like th--
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violence erupts in atlanta. emily from our fox affiliate in atlanta joins us live from the city with a look at the damage. emily, good morning. >> hey there, guys. i'm just going to walk you through a pat of destruction. after some of those protesters started dissipating the downtown atlanta centennial bark area some came to an upscale area and really business after business broken into. shattered some, set on fire. you will see pieces of an american flag here. we are behind me we have got the corner bakery. next to it maggionos these windows completely shattered and busted through. pan to my left you can see insulation torn out. there is table one of the items used to break through the windows, just to walk down peachtree road which is this major thoroughfare through the buck head area you will get to see some more of the damage there. that's a toppled security camera blocking one of the lanes in
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peachtree road. continuing down peachtree road this is a newly erected building. within the last week and a half it has been completed. and you will see there is shattered glass. tens of thousands of dollars, i talked to the construction foreman with shattered glass that continues to fall with the wind into the streets. you will see it is starting to be blocked off now to clear the area there. and this is just the scene all over buck head. extends about a half mile more down to lennox mall. curves around on to election none road. business after business. a lot of emotions running high this morning as people are coming out for the first time to really get an underunderstanding of the level of damage here. one person i spoke to described this area around midnight last night as a football field. the last thing i want to mention just down the street here, atlanta police say while a number of things have been thrown at police officers, including knives and bottles, there was a cop in the patrol car just up here ahead at the
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intersection that was fired at. we will get more information throughout the day from atlanta police in terms of injuries, arrests and keep you updated. that's the latest. back to you guys. pete: wow, emily, thank you. you talk about half a mile long with that kind of destruction, knives, bottles, gunshots, wow. terrible. terrible, terrible stuff. pete: it sure is it's going to take a lot to get this under control and all of these cities and, of course, as we have been talking throughout the show about the national guard the military request going into minnesota. it's important to point out what this is going to look like. and the act that we talked about prohibits the dod regulation prohibits military assistance to civilian authorities being limited to not participating in law enforcement activities; however, we do know that the national guard is covered by the act only when acting in federal services so if a state like
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minnesota has requested this assistance, we may see them being more engaged, particularly when the mission is focused solely on restoring order and protecting life. pete: griff, it's an important point. if the governor of minnesota calls up the minnesota national guard and puts it on what's called title 32 status, that's state funding, they can be used for law enforcement purposes which would quickly exponentially increase the amount of law enforcement on the city there we will see if that happens effectively in minneapolis. interesting. thanks for that clarification. griff. jedediah: and still ahead, protestprotest devolving into cs across the country. in new york the american flag torched. while in portland rioters surrounding a police precinct, which is just a small snapshot of the violence overnight. jack brewer says people who call for peace while practicing hate are just creating a war with ourselves. he joins us next. can my side be firm?
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pete: back to a fox news alert. chaos, havoc, and even flag burning across the country as riots erupt following the death of george floyd. former nfl player jack brewer grew up in minneapolis and spokesperson for the national association of athletic leagues and is here to discuss. jack, thanks for being here this morning. you have what happened to george floyd and this many days later absolute riots and chaos. i have got to imagine you feel like the latter does a disservice to real justice here. >> it really does. it hits you in your soul. it hits you deeply when you see this. you know, you cannot fight evil with evil. the same folks that are protesting against hate are now the ones acting with hate. this is not how we get anything accomplished here. we need to put a goal on this protest.
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we need to do it peacefully and actually put a goal on the protest instead of just going wildly into the streets and ruining the very communities we have to go back in and live. in. pete: jack, who can deliver that message? it doesn't seem like the rioters are listening. the more rope the police give the more space they take advantage of it. did a report in georgia they went from downtown atlanta to buck head intentionally to destroy businesses. >> it's terrible. it'sed sad. i think alveda king earlier said it best. dr. martin luther king and the are men of god. we had men of god leading protests. we didn't have people funding folks to go out and harass buildings and light things on fire. we don't have leaders that provoke violence. we had leaders back then that walked around with their bibles as alveda king said. that's what we need. this is a spiritual warfare. it can't be fought with flesh and blood. we have to take the spirit. the holy spirit, the spirit of
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love, the spirit of togetherness, to unite this country. we need black, white, green, purple, people of all colors. we can't just blame this on white people. right? there is a lot of good, holy white people. we need those white people to stand up right now. we need president trump. we need people like trey gowdy. if you hear his message, we need all white americans, white leaders speak like trey gowdy. forcefully. let's be against bigotry and evils and the satan that pushes racism. pete: jack, great message. real quick. only about 20 seconds. you are a big supporter of law enforcement. what's your message to them today? >> keep your head up. please. you know, call out the brothers that aren't doing it the right way. 1% of law enforcement officers need to be fixed. in the 99% need to take a stand and demand a new culture across law enforcement. we are brothers and we love each other and let's show the world that. pete: jack, you are the man. thank you for your clarity this morning. we appreciate it.
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>> [people chanting and rioting jedediah: violence and outrage spreading from minneapolis to major cities across the country including atlanta, new york and d.c., over the death of george floyd. pete: in portland, oregon a police station is over run by protesters like what happened in minneapolis, chasing officers out of their own department. griff: and in oakland, california a car drives through a honda dealership leaving broken glass everywhere, just one of sadly thousands of scenes
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playing out coast to coast. i'm griff jenkins in washington, pete and jedediah up in new york , we wake up after the tragic up acceptable death of george floyd, five days later you have major cities struggling to restore order, protect life and property. pete: yeah, griff the problem is that the riots we're seeing here have nothing to do with the loss of george floyd, and that's the disconnect that's being created here. you're going to hear briefly shortly from a great guest we had on the show that pointed out that he was a protester on behalf of justice for george floyd, but then had his own business, has been looted and rioted and he's in tears about it. one has nothing to do with the other. it's lawlessness and chaos and when you look at minneapolis and we'll go to matt finn the leadership has seemed utterly incapable from
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the governor to the meyer of addressing these issues and getting it under control. sad to see. griff: and pete, go ahead. jedediah: these rioters have made it about themselves. not only is it not about george floyd but it does an enormous disservice to his honor. this was not a violent man and yet they are reacting with violence. they are destroys their very own community so it's horrific to see that instead of talking about george floyd we have to address the massive destruction these rioters who have no respect for the community and no respect for george floyd either are engaged in. griff: and jed, the violence still continues there, businesses still burning in minneapolis. we check in again with the excellent reporting of matt finn on the ground there, what are you seeing now, matt? reporter: what you guys are talking about the destruction of businesses and we've got a lot to show you here. here is a row of small businesses that had their
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windows smashed in, their merchandise looted and there are , you know, plywood and board s outside saying please don't burn and this particular business also says kids live upstairs. please don't burn. and there was lots of fires around the city overnight. here in the distance you could see there were large dumpsters rolled out into the middle of this street, the lake street corridor which has been hit hard , and these looters and rioters placed a bunch of debris in and around the dumpsters and lit them on fire and i actually saw that fire last night. it shot up about two stories and it's still smoldering at this hour. you can see this black suv reversing trying not to go overall of the sharp debris and have its tires popped and this scene is happening around in minneapolis and many places this morning. this large black building on my right had its second story window smashed out. the owner of that facility tells us it was a new housing complex, so instead of putting perhaps some finishing touches on that building and welcoming new
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residents they now have to deal with all of that devastation and we've talked to homeowners who say, you know, they walked out of their front door today and began cleaning up the hards of glass all over this neighborhood and there's thick, black smoke penetrating the air in minneapolis really for days now. you can't escape it because there were so many fires continuously burning in this large american city. pete: matt as you pointed out it's block-by-block, not just one location in minneapolis. there was supposed to be a curfew last night it was utterly ignored by the people that were out. law enforcement barely visible. the governor did a press conference and you've mentioned it at 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning today, i caught a portion of it but he also said there were unconformed reports it was white supremities groups and drug cartels suspected in these riots. have you gotten any update from officials about people why they did it or whose responsible?
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>> i have not gotten any update since that press conference, but there is word on the street as there often is in these very large protests that there are people coming outside in minneapolis. there are instigators. the governor said himself that there is an indication that drug cartels are trying to take advantage of this situation, and what began as a peaceful protest , or a demonstration that was perhaps justified, you know, is often hijacked by bad actors and we see them running around cities like this destroy ing businesses and property. pete: matt finn you've done a great job thank you so much. reporter: thank you. jedediah: thanks, matt. we'll bring in dan bongino now former nypd officer and former secret service agent. dan, welcome to the show. we've been watching this unfold ing in minneapolis these riots popping up around the country devastating to see the massive destruction that has ensued and it's really sad because peaceful protest is a corner stone of our republic and
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to see it distorted as such is really painful to watch. what do you anticipate will happen in the next couple days with respect to minneapolis and other cities around the country? >> let me tell you what the real sin here is. the real sin of this whole thing is we had a moment. we had a genuine moment of national unity. people saw this video, with their very own eyes of george floyd and as we usually do, sadly in the country everybody jumps into the partisan corner no matter what the arguments about, nobody even has the facts yet. that's not what happened here. there were no corners. everybody joined in the center of the ring and do you know what they said, jed? i don't like that. that's not right. i can't get behind that. i'm sorry what happened to george floyd, we need justice for this man's family. systemic, honest, real thought out peaceful justice for this man's family because what happened isn't right and that conversation is in the can right now. it's in the garbage it got flushed down the toilet because a couple of a-hole protesters
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and this is what they do. when i was a cop and a secret service agent i'll never forget the 2004 republican national convention when i was there doing counter surveillance with the secret service the nypd had this down before political leadership got in the way and what you do here is these groups of protesters, a lot of them are peaceful but many of them aren't , and they're typically led by one or two moron losers, zeros, dregs on society that get everybody whipped up into a frenzy and do you know what the nypd did? they could come in with mounted units and cord on off the groups into smaller groups and pull those out and you went to jail and let me tell you something it was the old guiliani approach. he wasn't the mayor then but they kept it and the approach to rioting and civil unrest that turned violent was this. the first who throws a rock goes to jail. the second one who throws a rock goes to jail. i'm telling you there's no third rock.
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that is it. it should be and then you move on to the next block and do it again and just let them vent strategy which has been tried before let people vent is nonsense. it's costing people their lives and their business. this is america. this is not bay route. griff: is it time to end what you prosecute those with because it's not just a few agitators this is across the country and from my coverage even in the inauguration of president trump, they arrested some 200 people and they tried to narrow it down to get one or two organizers and charge them with conspiracy to insight riot and that pretty much fell apart. is it time now to start getting these people and charging them with domestic terrorism? >> yes. yes. well said. griff, listen. the people who show up to these riots, not the protesters but the people who show up to riot, they are showing up, griff, with
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chemical devices ready to burn your city down. these are not protesters. these are domestic terrorists. they are stowing up with weapons specifically designed to fracture glass and windows to then go walk in, loot the place, place a chem all incindiary device and burn your city to the ground. they are no different than al qaeda terrorists. that's what these people are. they are terrorists. they use violence, disruption, chaos, theft, and the potential of death. i saw a story about a police officer in california is now dead. they are domestic terrorists. these people should be tracked down. the video should be used and griff, if it takes two years, three years, or five years, anyone involved in this , again, i'm a constitutionalist, it's always a right to assemble but if you showed up with this with on a device to burn someone's business down with weapons to destroy people and property then
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you should be tracked down to the end of this earth and you should do time in jail not for disorderly conduct, where you get out in a day but for a conspiracy charge to commit terror and you should go to jail for a long time and maybe that'll send a message. pete: it just might, dan great stuff appreciate that. we want to get your thoughts also on the president this morning, up and tweeting about some of the things that happened last night. here is a portion of what he tweeted. he said great job last night at the white house, by the u.s. secret service. they were not only totally professional but very cool. i was inside and watched every move and couldn't have felt more safe. they let the protesters scream and rant as much as they wanted but whenever someone got too frisky or out of line they would quickly come down on them hard. didn't know what hit them. the frontline was replaced with fresh agents like magic, big crowd professionally organized, but nobody came close to breaching the fence. if they would have been greeted with the most vicious dogs and most ominous women on weapons i've ever seen that's when people would have been badly hurt at least many secret
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service agents waiting for action. we put the young ones on the frontlines, sir. they love it and good practice. as you saw last night, they were very cool and very professional, never let it get out of hand. thank you on the bad side the d.c. mayor,bowser, always looking for money and wouldn't bet the d.c. police get involved not their job, nice. your reaction, dan? >> pete the greatest honor of my lifetime was to serve in the secret service for 12 years of my life. i was humbled by the experience and when i was offered the job i shed a tear i mean that but i'm telling you protesters listen up i know you watch this channel. i take that back to the rioters. the protesters god bless, your right to protest i support that 100%. to the rioters, you are making a catastrophic judgemental error if you think for one moment the secret service is going to abandon the white house like they abandoned that precinct in minneapolis. you are making a catastrophic, i am not kidding, it's not a joke,
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this is not brovado, i'm not trying out for a stallone movie i'm telling you the truth. this will not end well. i'm warning you it will not end well. you are a bunch of 18-year-old kids pampered in your basement your entire life and you found an opportunity to go instigate a riot because you never do anything yourself because you're a chump. this will not end well. i am not kidding. i'm doing you a public service. jedediah: dan, one of the things -- >> do not try to get in that. it's huge, huge mistake. jedediah: one of the things that's been the most difficult to watch has been the destruction of these businesses. it's just heartbreaking beyond measure. we had a really heartbreaking story on earlier, k. b. balla, a scores sports bar owner and his wife plianna on the damage from the riots listen to what they had to say and then we'll talk about it. >> i started joining back in november when i found this new
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bar and restaurant this was like a dream coming true, so i was very excited about it and in the last 48 hours, just everything just disappeared. it's gone. >> we are standing in the restaurant and we're trying to clean up. people are coming in the back and they are trying to steal as we are in the restaurant and telling them we are the owners of the restaurant and they still stood there and looked at us and they were still trying to take things out of the restaurant, so we haven't even opened yet. there was nothing even in the safe. jedediah: yeah, so dan, these people in many cases who have worked their entire lives. they worked their whole lives to establish some of these businesses. they turn around and seconds later it's just everything seems to vanish from them. this is devastating to watch. >> you know, jed what about justice for them? what about justice for mr. and mrs. balla? tucker played a clip during the 1992 riots in la of an older black gentleman saying the same
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thing. what about them busting their as ses their entire life to build that business and a couple of punks had go and steal everything. you believe injustice you're full of crap if you're a protester and even use the word justice there. it's embarrassing what happens there. this is an abomination. pete: absolutely, great point. jedediah: we appreciate you being here, dan as always thank you very much. >> thanks guys. jedediah: still ahead, joe biden speaking out about the unrest and death of george floyd, calling on white americans to confront racial inequalities. donna brazile weighs in on the former vice president's messaging strategy, that's coming up. wayfair has way more ways to renovate your home,
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nation with the black community, with all minority communities, and come together as one america that's the challenge we face. the pain is too immense for one community to bear alone. i believe it's the duty of every american to grapple with. griff: here to react former dnc interim chairwoman, and fox news contributor donna brazile. good morning it's good to see you but i've got to say i'm sorry i've got to talk to you about this tragic situation unfolding this morning. the tragedy of the death of george floyd but now these riots really getting in the way of what needs to be addressed the underlying racial inequalit ies that caused that led to the death of floyd. what are your thoughts this morning? >> well first of all thank you for having me and when i got up this morning, i still have this heavy heart. as you know, griff, we're in a crisis, and at a moment like this , it's very important that all of our nations leaders, not
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just those who are elected but community leaders, the clergy, everyone coming together. this is one of those crisis where we do need empathy, we need an understanding of why this pain, why this trauma is causing so much grief, and while there are people out there trying to peacefully remember and honor the man who died, there are also individuals out there who are exploiting this. i want to separate those who are trying to exploit it for their own whatever issues, but let's focus on this pain and this trauma, because if we can handle this pain and understand why it is so painful to belong to a community that has been dealing with this program trauma , dealing with the
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terrorism simply because you are black, i understand that it may be difficult for my white friends and i have plenty, to understand that this pain is born from a frustration that simply because of the color of your skin, you're pulled over, you're suspected, you are treated as if you're not an american citizen. your life is not valued, so yes, it is george floyd. we want justice for him. it is also the young man down in georgia. it is also the young woman in tennessee, in her own house, and there's so many other examples that i can give you but watching that video, hearing a man call out to his deceased momma, begging this officer, pleading with him, to remove his knee from his neck. that has gripped us, that has challenged us and that should at least at this moment force us to
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figure out how we come together. this is not a moment to try to s toke up racial animosity. this is a moment to bring reconciliation to the table from the president of the united states on down and from the clergy and the community on up. we meet together as one. the president of the united states and the clergy and the community as one. we are one people. one people with one destiny. we're not three people, four people, we're one. griff: we are indeed, donna. >> i'm failing to understand. i don't want to be angry at the protesters, or those who are participating in peaceful protests. i don't want to be upset. i want to help them understand, we are going to overcome. dr. king walked us over that
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pete: we're back with a fox news alert businesses destroyed overnight as stores are looted and torched during violent riots in minneapolis despite the governor pleading with looters to stop. >> we cannot have the looting and the wrecklessness that went on. we cannot have it because we can't function as a society and i refuse to have it take away the attention of the stain that we need to be working on. pete: jason lewis is a former minnesota congressman and a current candidate for the u.s. senate from minnesota he joins me now.
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jason thank you so much for being here, so you heard the governor there yesterday. he basically made the same plea at about 2:00 in the morning last night after the curfew was utterly ignored. what's your take on the leadership, the state of leadership in minnesota right now? >> well thanks, pete. i tell you i think the whole state is in a state of shock over the total absence of leadership. two nights ago they had no plan and we saw what happened then. the city was burning down. last night they finally had a plan and that was to retreat until after midnight before sending in help. this has been a crisis in leadership the likes of which we never seen in minnesota. you know, week and a half ago i said the idea of putting the infected in nursing homes under the covid crisis we have the highest nursing home rate of fatalities in the country in minnesota while quarantining the health it and destroying minnesota business was the largest policy blunder in history. i should have waited a week. this is a tragedy what has happened denying the very due
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process that was denied to george floyd denied thousands of minnesota citizens, 170 businesses destroyed, lives destroyed, this has nothing to do with the memory of mr. floyd. everybody was on board and getting to the bottom of that but democrats in charge, in minnesota, in the governor's mansion for a decade in the twin cities, the mayoral seats for decades are now trying to push the blame some place else? they're the ones that created this. they're the ones that have been in charge. we all believe there's a federal investigation warranted under the 14th amendment and the color of law that policemen and women operate but that was already happening. these people are deflecting blame for their own negligence and i will tell you, heads need to roll here. this has been a devastating week for the state of minnesota. pete: jason they haven't lived up to the task even close and this is more than just this incident. what should happen next in
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minnesota? >> well that's a really good question. the republicans have control of the state senate and i've been calling for investigations into the covid policy very similar to new york and new jersey about quarantining the healthy while you're shoving infected people in the nursing homes. now they need to be investigations into the negligence of the governor's office on this particular policy first they had no plan on thursday night and then last night, they had the wrong plan, and that was to retreat. there were no national guard, no policemen and women anywhere in the fifth or third precinct in the last couple of nights until it was far too late. no one can figure it out to be honest with you pete. pete: and no justice for those people and those businesses which are changed forever. jason lewis former congressman running for senate. >> and by the way working hand in glove with former governor mark dayton, when these policies were being implemented. other than getting federal funding for planned parenthood under total, smith has been total totally awol.
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pete: absolutely, jason lewis thank you very much for your time. appreciate it. coming up the former officer at the center of the george floyd death investigation charged with murder so what happens next and what should happen to the other officers involved we'll talk to criminal defense attorney and former homicide detective ted williams that's next.
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jedediah: peaceful protests turning violent in brooklyn, new york. rioters torching an nypd van as hundreds of protesters storm a police precinct. we are joined live from that police precinct with a firsthand look at the damage. isha? reporter: good morning, jed well people are starting to ic was up in this neighborhood and a lot of people have been showing up in the last couple of hours just to take pictures we're seeing an increase in police presence too. the crime scene unit for nypd is on the scene now and they are really assessing the damage that was left behind by the protester s. what you're looking at is one of five vehicles that i've counted on just this block here that have been pretty much totaled, damaged this is one of two police vehicles here and really looks like its been in a car accident there's a brick in the back seat so it looks like a brick was used to smash all the windows out and it wasn't
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just the police vehicles. it was also personal vehicles. there's actually up here if you can follow me there's a car that we believe to be an uber car, an uber driver's car and you can see it was so badly damaged that the front of it is completely gone and the bags, the airbags this but it was quite a scene here last night. want to show you some video now from last night where our camera s are some of the cameras that were out and about caught protesters burning thin blue line flag they were vandalizing police vehicles moving through the area, images circulated pretty quickly of protesters also igniting a police van on fire in brooklyn, and at one point, nypd began mobilizing at a level iv and that means all officers nearby have to respond. now, earlier in the night, big crowds of protesters clash with police outside barclays center some were throwing water bottles at police, a lot of videos being
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shared online of pushing shoving at one point police pepper spray ed the crowd. reportedly some city council members were also caught up in this and new york state senator tweeting that he was even handcuffed. now, nypd says dozens of people were arrested last night we're not clear on exactly the number mayor bill deblasio reportedly was in brooklyn last night attempting try to deescalate the situation. he tweeted this out and i'll read just part of it. it says there will be a full review of what happened tonight. we don't ever want to see another night like this. now, the mayor is going to be talking to the media at about 10:00, so in just a little while we'll be on that call. in the meantime the question, guys, is what happens next? i mean, there are protests that are scheduled all across new york city later today, and the question is what happens today, what happens tonight, when the sun sets? jed? griff: thank you very much that was indeed the question.
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former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin now behind bars facing charges of third degree murder and manslaughter in the death of george floyd. but the case is far from over, so what can we expect? pete: let's ask criminal defense attorney and fox news contributor ted williams. thanks for being here so what should we expect in this case as it continues to unfold? >> well, what's going to happen now is the first thing that you should anticipate or expect that derek chauvin will be arraigned and that the investigation itself will continue because there may be very much more charges to be brought against other officers that were associated with this incident, and also, gotten numerous calls from viewers asking can these charges be upgraded? yes they can in fact be upgraded to charges that have been brought against the officer
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derek chauvin. jedediah: ted the floyd family has reacted to the charges. let's take a look what they said abdomen and we'll get your reaction.e and we call on authorities to revise the charges to reflect the true culpability of this officer. what do you make of that? >> well you know, i understand they're hurt, and what's going on with the family, but the authorities have to look at what they actually can get a conviction on. they would never get a conviction in my estimation if in fact they upgraded these charges to first degree, because you'd have to show there was pre meditation, deliberation. there would have had to have been some planning and there's nothing that i know that shows that there was any planning to murder george floyd. i don't think that is with the intent to actually murder this man and you would have to
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clearly show that. griff: and ted, you and i were actually in minneapolis back in 2016 i believe it was, when the death of falindo castillo happened and yet that officer was acquitted and i believe that was secondary manslaughter. how difficult and how much pressure is there on this prosecution now of chauvin? >> well there's a lot of pressure on the prosecutor here mike freeman. griff, this man should have been charged the moment they looked at the video and they saw this man, this officer with his knee on this man's neck, this man is saying "i can't breathe" calling for his mother and he dies there. if you all would reverse this just for a moment, if in fact, there was a citizen who had his knee on the neck of a police officer, and that person,
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that police officer died under these circumstances, it would not have taken days to actually charge that citizen. pete: we got to get your take on the effect of the community as you and griff also have been out in other locations covering the devastation of riots. we had curt banks on the program before, owner of complete auto body and repair that was damaged in the ferguson riots. we talked about what it has done to his community take a listen. >> the impact that lasted a year literally lasted five and it continues today. i really pray this is in our past and no one else has to experience what we went through. there's a lot of businesses that never came back that were lost. we were fortunate to have multiple locations so yeah, the financial impact was million s of dollars. the emotional impact was irrevocable, it was insane. pete: ted you and griff were there inferring you son. how would you compare the impact
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of ferguson to what you're see ing in minneapolis and what they will have to face? >> with ferguson in and of itself pales to what we are faced with here as a result of what has taken place over the last week in these demonstrations. look, nobody is fighting or arguing, people should not have the right to demonstrate, but this was not a demonstration that was about george floyd. this came into personal individuals coming into that community and they were self- destructing that community. this is a community, look. i'm black. that community that was destroyed and all over this country, in 20 metropolitan cities or in the black neighborhood and the black neighborhood, unfortunately, this is the mayor and she said it this is disrespectful to dr.
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king, this is disrespectful to george floyd, and she's absolutely right about this. this should not have taken place i am hoping that the leader within these communities will get together today with these individuals and try to quell this so we have no further demonstrations. griff: well you're right there, ted. you're sure right it is unbelievable the devastation that we've got there and as and i remember in baltimore it was a drug store i've been talking about all morning as cvs that community felt so hard to get it there because they needed it so desperately and it was the first thing they burned down. >> well griff, do you remember you and i in that burnt out drug store, in the black community, and then an elderly black man came up just about crying saying now where do i go and get my prescriptions filled? that has resonated and stayed
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with me all of these years. it's a terrible situation, but it should not have happened and i can tell you, i think the authorities should have charged that police officer earlier and perhaps maybe some of what is going on now may not have happened. griff: that's right. well ted thanks for joining us for that insight. much appreciated my friend. tragically we're seeing it play out all across the country today thanks, ted. >> my pleasure. griff: turning to your headlines starting with a fox news alert a 19-year-old shot and killed at a protest in detroit. police say the gunman pulled up in an suv firing several shots into the crowd. the man was rushed to a hospital where he died. the suspect and victim have not been identified. police believe the gunman was driving a grey dodge durango. >> the wife of fired minneapolis police officer derek chauvin now filing for divorce making the move after 10 years of marriage over her husband's role in the death of george floyd.
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her lawyer releasing a statement reading, "she's devastated by mr. floyd's death and her sympathy lies with his family." >> and elon musk and spacex hoping skies clear for their second attempt on launching astronauts into space today after canceling 17 minutes before launch on wednesday, because of bad weather. forecasters are 50/ 50 chance today and the lift off is scheduled for 3:22 p.m. if it goes off it will mark the first space flight of nasa astronauts from u.s. soil in nine years. and those are your headlines. jed? jedediah: thanks, griff. still ahead the family of george floyd calling in famous pathologist to conduct a second autopsy to pinpoint the exact cause of death, a live report, coming up next. i'm greg, i'm 68 years old.
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news alert george floyd's family hires prominent forensic path all o gist dr. michael baden to perform a second autopsy as a former minneapolis officer is kneels on floyds neck is charged with murder. todd piro joins us live to explain why the first autopsy is under question, good morning. todd: pete good morning to you as well dr. baden who served as the new york city chief medical examiner confirming to fox news he's traveling to minneapolis today at the request of the floyd family, the prominent forensic pathologist expected to perform an independent autopsy of george floyd. dr. baden adding he would discuss his findings early next week and now the criminal complaint against former police officer derek chauvin states he kept his knee on floyd's neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds including for nearly three minutes after floyd stopped moving and talking, and an official autopsy saying there was nothing to support strangulation as the cause of death concluding that the
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combined effect of being restrained, potential intoxicant s in floyds system and underlying health issue including heart disease likely contributed to his death but the floyd family attorney arguing that talk of a heart condition was irrelevant because floyd was walking and breathing before his contact with police adding that the family doesn't feel they can trust the minneapolis police department. you'll recall that in 2014 dr. baden was hired to do an independent autopsy of eric gardner who died after he was placed in a chokehold by nypd officers video show him pleading for his life saying he would not breathe. dr. baden has been a fox news contributor since 2003. pete: coming up as protests escalate into violent riots reports of police officers being shot at on the streets of minneapolis overnight this as an nypd van is torched. so where do we go from here?
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>> jedediah: we are back to a fox news alert. rioters setting an nypd vehicle and thin blue line flag ablaze as clashes turn violent in cities across the country. so where do we go from here? here to discuss the founder of blue lives matter new york city and 14 year long veteran, joseph welcome to the show. thank you for being here on this difficult news day. obviously, very tough to watch the footage coming out of minneapolis, and around the country. what do you make so far of these clashes of these riots that are ensuing what's your take on the events as of now?
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>> like the vast majority of americans i'm sick to my stomach when i first saw that video it was actually inhumane not just as a police officer but seeing humans to do something like that but i also got more sick and anxious knowing there are people in the dark waiting for an opportunity like this to go out there and cause such havoc to one another. you have so many businesses who have worked so hard, the rioting , the absolute disregard for human life for these neighborhoods we're already dealing with covid and people go out and destroy more. this isn't about mr. floyd any more it's about demonstrating and it's about causing more havoc and last night i got really upset. i was laying there with my two- year-old son while he slept and i rubbed his head and started getting tears in my eyes realizing that this is the world that my son has to grow up in. he has to see the hate, the disregard to human life and that's not the human being that i brought into this world, and this is the time in history that people make names for themselves that they step up and they do something to change the course
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of american history, and this is that time that someone needs to stand up, get society back on track and get everyone working together once and for all. jedediah: yeah, you know, you said this isn't about mr. floyd any more and that's the unfortunate reality because it should be. this should be about the growth and justice done to george floyd we should be talking about that and we should be talking about the consequences to those officers, and what's going to happen and instead we're talking about these riots and the unfortunate destruction of property doing a huge disservice to george floyd in fact, so what can police do at a time like this to help heal the relationship with the community moving forward in minneapolis and moving forward in other parts of the country where something like this could potentially happen again? we hope not but you never know. >> there's no sugar coating it. it's not easy on either side the majority of people that you see out there aren't grown men and women in their 40s, 50s, 60s these are individuals that are in their teens and young 20s and 30s and they don't listen to
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authority. this is the group of individuals coming up in this world, we saw it in 2014 with occupy wall street and the riots across the nation and it's not an easy task in brooklyn last night. taking over police precinct to try to light it on fire to block the streets to allow ems workers to get to the aid of injured officers, you know, there's many people that came up to me and sent me messages and a lot that happened in history and all professions whether it's the catholic church whether it's teaching and we don't turn our backs on those professions just because one individual the majority are good. but going back also, we have to remember this is about an individual, i saw a tweet a video from mr. floyd and he's no different than any of us. he was sitting there talking about how the generation how they get out of control and this isn't the right thing to do this isn't the type of society we grow up in and this is coming from the man that isn't even here any more. that's a message that really resonates among all americans and we have family, this isn't the justice we need. yes there's a police officer that stepped out of line and by
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all means, that person needs to be held accountable, but we can't go and do this to one another and the legacy of a gentleman that wasn't too far off to begin with. jedediah: those police officers in this instance clearly need to be held accountable and we want to honor george floyd and the growth and justice on him and also acknowledge there are many police officers out there really great people doing great work who are also sickened by what they saw in that video. thank you so much for being here we appreciate your perspective today. we have more fox & friends coming up moments away. . that's no way to treat a dog... ...you can do no wrong. where did you learn that? the internet... yeah? mmm! with no artificial preservatives or added nitrates or nitrites, it's all for the love of hot dogs. you get way more than free shipping. you get thousands when you shop for your home at wayfair of items you need to your door fast the way it works best for you. even the big stuff. you get a delivery experience
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jedediah: thank you all for joan ing us today. my thoughts and prayers certainly go out to george floyd s family that they may find some comfort at this incredibly difficult time. griff: and to the police, national guard and firefighters on the front lines in these cities as they try and get control stay tuned to fox for more information as we cover it coast to coastal day. pete: my prayers is this is the beginning of the end not the beginning. i hope leadership steps up, less
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stay safe protect the community and arrest the rioters. it really is a thin blue line that keeps us safe and hopefully cooler heads prevail thank you for joining us all morning long we'll be back up at 5 a.m. tomorrow on fox & friends. neil: all right, the nation is on high alert for something good and worried about something bad. on the left side of your screen you're looking at cape canaveral , a live shot right now of the falcon x dragon capsule that's going to make a second go of it today and on the right, riots that ensued last night for the fourth straight night in minneapolis, actually in 30 cities across the country. we are on top of both and what could come next, welcome everybody, i'm neil cavuto and this is kanye west pseudo live very happy to have you. we'll be hearing very shortly from new york city's police commissioner, and this at a time when the city is bracing for protest as well. they had some doosies st
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