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she takes for her depression. usual divisions of the media, td can affect different parts of the body. white and black, left and right. >> i think as the daughter of a - [narrator] in today's trying times, we're here to help you manage td. black man and the mother of black man, this is really too visit talkabouttd.com for a doctor discussion guide much for me today. i'm still rattled by the last to prep for your next appointment in person, story. it feels to me like an open over the phone, or online. season and that it's just - we were so relieved to learn there are treatments for td. sometimes not a place to be in this country for black men. >> i'm having my own -- i'm surprised at my own emotions on tv with you. as a white woman aware of my own privilege in this country, i so angry and i can't even begin -- for give me. >> it looks like outrageous and even perhaps murderous behavior by minneapolis police officers. another black man in police custody, gasping for air, defenseless and a moment later dead. >> being a professional isn't

enough. being educated isn't enough. being reu6 rich isn't enough. when you have darker skin, there is no inches laying insulation e of behavior. howie: it was a smartphone video taken by a 17-year-old girl that showed the officer's neon floyd's neck, even as he pleaded he couldn't breathe, that convinced most of the media and public that this death was an outrage. a second mistreated. howie: omar jimenez a black journalist from cnn was arrested along with liss crew while joining us now to analyze the covering the minneapolis riot, even though he was trying to coverage, mollie a comply with police instructions. >> we're getting out of your way, so just let us know. fox news correspondent and talk show wherever you want us, we will host and fox news contributor. go. so we walked away. in so many cases you have a i'm sorry? >> you're under arrest. partisan media divide where >> okay. do you mind telling me why i'm conservatives black the police and liberals back the black under arrest, sir? person who was either killed or >> i am thankful that it wounded. in the death of george floyd it happened on live tv so that you seems to me you have all sides were able to see it.

i was able -- i lived it. united over this minneapolis and people around the country tragedy. >> yeah, it did seem left, were able to watch and see how it unfolded so there's no doubt right, whatever your political as to what happened. persuasion, black, white, everyone saw that video and were howie: joining us now, griff horrified by what they saw. and that is an important thing jenkins, who has covered many protests as a fox news to note and divisions have correspondent. developed in this story over how sometimes reporters get arrested people have responded to it but when they refuse a request to it seems there is a great deal move. that's not what happened here. of unity on that point. >> it was outrageous to watch howie: richard, how is this it even the second time i story affected you personally watched it. i watched it live the first and given the history here, all time. the police should not be these cases such as the police arresting journalist. chokehold death of eric garner the first amendment is under in new york half a dozen years attack, not only from being ago or the other day a white woman in central park calling caught in crossfire and sometimes being assaulted by the police to frame a black man who police intentionally, we'll get asked her to leash her dog. into that in a moment. do you think the media are but omar jimenez did exactly the conveying that this is a deeply right thing. his episode should be shown in rooted problem? every journalism class in the >> i think the reporting shows nation for years come. they are conveying this is a he was trying to work with the police. that's what we do. deeply rooted problem. where should we be. how can we cover this. there is nowhere, howard, for a we need to cover this to be black man to be safe. you can't be safe in your own transparent for the nation.

home. you can't be safe in your howie: minnesota govern for tim grandmother's backyard. you can't be safe watching walz did apologize for cnn for birds. you can't be safe selling loose what he called the inexcusable cigarettes on the streets of staten island. and that is where this anger arrest. there have been lots of comes from tonight. incidents. on friday night in washington, a and for the past five nights. fox news crew including leland people of color are saying where is our justice? vittert were chased by cursing where is our liberty? where is our freedom? protesters, bottles were thrown and right now, that's what's in at them, leland described it as question. howie: gillian, in this case as a harrowing disturbance. on friday night, cnn many others in recent years, it was smartphone video that showed headquarters were attacked and they defaced the cnn logo. for example the police account that george floyd was resisting what's behind the anti-media anger in this context, griff. arrest was a lie. >> it's been growing for a long without that video, of course it's become so common with time. i saw it in ferguson when of people all carrying cameras, do course there michael brown, they you think this would even have become a national story? got tired of the media being there. they turned on us. >> who knows the answer to that they burned a journalist's car. i had to flee a live shot. but thank god that that woman we saw it in baltimore and now and those bystanders on the corner of that minneapolis it's reached a peak and it's sidewalk had their cell phones and had the wherewithal during become dangerous. thank goodness they are okay and that moment of crisis to whip them out, get the footage that got out of there. it's a combination of police now

america needed to see. i think what hits home for the showing a we will arrest you sign that they never did before and the protesters attacking american people and for you. journalists covering this is journalists need 19 eye balls in that though we're very lucky to their heads because it's coming at them from every direction and have that coverage in this really i think out of all this, while i realize that journalists instance, though we were very put themselves in these position fortunate a few weeks ago to have that cell phone footage, as i have done, it is important again, of the moment that ahmaud that both mayors, police chiefs, ash bring was shot in -- arbery and ultimately all of our leaders help to fight for the was shot in broad daylight as first amendment and the well, these are the horrors we protection of journalists. i was proud of our ceo, suzanne now have on camera. think of the tens of thousands scott, when she put out a statement, supporting omar of murders we don't have. it sort of compounds the jimenez, saying this is heartbreak. a quick note on media unity unacceptable and needs to stop. here. i think it is important that the howie: and a statement supporting leland vittert and sides are united in the fact that the murder of george floyd his crew. last night in pittsburgh a photo is a terrible thing but it's lorn gistjournalist was beaten e hardly anything to commend. i mean, it's a pretty low bar when the media can widely agree said they stomped and kicked me. that the murder of an american on an american street on a group pulled me out and saved memorial day is an egregious my life. when you get out on the thing that upsets all of us. frontlines, have you to worry

it's not really saying a lot about police, you have to worry that we can rally around that about protesters turning the reality. howie: that's a good bit of anger on the media. >> i'll leave it with this. that is, thank you to the perspective. donald trump tweeted -- let me journalists from leland to the just jump in, and i'll come back ian smith, a woman lost an eye, to you. president trump tweeted after the riots began, let me put up she lost her sight in minneapolis on friday night, who on the screen, these thugs are dishonoring the memory of george had surgery, is recovering, thank you to the journalists floyd. i won't let that happen. willing to do this because never he spoke to governor tim walz. before have we needed them more any difficulty and we will and they're standing up for it. howie: they are out there to assume control and when the looting starts the shooting tell the story. great to have you, having been starts. twitter hid that tweet, mollie, in the situation, to explain from a lot of people. that. you had to click on of thanks so much. next on media buzz, twitter something, couldn't easily keeps fact checking president retweet it, saying this was trump and he hits back with an glorifying violence. was that unfair, in your view? executive order that could rein >> president trump's words were in all social media companies. attention guardians of the grass, ill-chosen and historically fraught. he later clarified, he stayed he navigators of the turf and keepers of the green. was making a statement of fact to the rural ramblers, back to the landers, about how looting can lead to head turners and stripe burners. unchecked violence which is run with us on a john deere mower. certainly true. but the bigger issue is what because this is more than just grass. it's home. search john deere mowers for more. twitter did there. this week's twitter's actions

against the president escalated a war there. they began by fact checking his opinion of a future event, adding an editor's note that was factually incorrect itself and then they went to straight-up censorship, not just of the president's twitter feed but of official government communications and they're doing this only against trump and his white house, not against chinese propaganda, not against iran when they call for the destruction of israel and genocide of jews and this is really seems like election meddling and it's a big escalation. howie: we're going to get to that later in the program. richard, i want to let you make your earlier point. first, let me play a sound bite from the president expressing his own feelings about the killing of george floyd. >> when you look at george floyd and his family and you see what that's done to them, just a terrible thing. it was a very, very sad thing for me to see that. howie: and as mollie said, the president clarified the tweet. he said he meant that people get

shot and they die when there's unchecked violence. your thoughts? >> listen, our country right now needs national leadership. what's missing a the white house is just that. we can have the debate about whether or not there's a battle between donald trump and twitter. let's listen to what he said. he said peaceful protesters, he called us thugs and hours after that happened a black journalist at cnn was arrested for covering this story. this is why african-americans and broader than that, multicultural coalition of folks are angry today. they're angry because the president doesn't seem to get it. that while, yes, we know about the case of george floyd because that was caught on tape, there aren't journalists in the car with black men who are pulled over by police and we begin to flinched and sometimes we begin to see our funeral play out when we're in that interaction. >> this needs to be corrected. there is a distinction between peaceful protesters and rioters.

there's a distinction between peaceful protesters and rioters. >> excuse me, mollie. when the president -- when the president of the united states during the middle of peaceful protests comes out and says thugs, who do you think he's referring to. >> these were not peaceful protests. people are having their does that mean they have to grow apart from their friends, or from the things they love to do? businesses destroyed. property damage is happening. >> are you referring to the cnn with right at home, it doesn't. black journalist who was right at home's professional team arrested? >> there's a lot of bad behavior thoughtfully selects caregivers by local governments against journalists. >> people in the streets with to help with personal care, housekeeping, their hands up. >> we need to be -- meals - and most of all, >> who was he referring to. staying engaged - in life. >> i assume the violent oh, thank you, thank you. you're welcome. are you ready to go? rioters. howie: i'm going to agree with oh, i sure am. mollie on that point. i take your point, richard. we can provide the right care, right at home. gillian, i lived through the devastating riots of 1968 which left many urban areas scared for more than two decades. do you think the national media are playing this, the 24/7 media howie: president trump has declared war on twitter this after the company branded two of his tweets misleading for the on that level or is it too soon first time. to say whether this calms down jack dorsey, social media in a few days?

>> the problem with the idea network, slapping a warning label on the tweet's. that this is all going to calm down is that there is still -- here they are, there is no way, zero that mail-in ball lots will justice hasn't been served. the first steps were taken pretty quickly. be fraudulent, ballots will be the officers who were on the scene, all four of them, lost their jobs. that was the immediate step one. fraudulently signed. and this will be a rigged now, one of them has been election, no way. charged. but he hasn't been convicted. trump responded to the move with he has to of be tried first. a threat. he hasn't been convicted and republicans feel that social justice is not going to be media platforms silence served until the sentence conservative voice, we will matches what every american who regulate or close them down has looked at the video with before we can ever allow this to their own two eyes sees which is happen. the president issued an the murder of an american on an executive order that could lessen the legal immunity of american street in broad daylight on m memorial day. that's how you start healing twitter, facebook and other tech giants for questionable content these wounds when people across the united states see that the posted by their hundreds of criminal justice system will millions of users. work in the way it's supposed >> the choices that twitter to, that it's intended to work. makes when it chooses to quick note on the riots, every suppress, edit, black list, time we talk about lawlessness shadow ban are editorial of the rioters, the folks who decisions, pure and simple. they're editorial decisions and in those moments twitter ceases are protesting haven't been peaceful -- we have to mention to become a neutral public

-- okay. platform and become an editor howie: so i want to turn now to with a viewpoint. something that cnn's don lemon howie: joining us now is buck sexton, a former cia analyst and said about the president's comments. i want to remind you mollie, as leslie marshall, radio talk show you know, the president called host and fox news contributor. the family, he spoke out buck, is twitter engaging in a quickly, said he was shocked. here's lemon on cnn. >> no one wants to hear from a double standard by singling out man who wanted the death penalty to come back from the central presidental tweets. park five. no one wants to hear from the >> yeah, people have been man who says there are very fine pointing out that there's been very little fact checking of the people on both sides. howie: so mollie, if liberals iranian supreme leader going on want to criticize president on twitter. trump for what they see as if you're going to get into this wrong, how he handled game you're going to run afoul charlottesville, even the pan of people who are looking at demuck. that's fine. this as singling out, as when -- pa pandemic, that's fin. targeting individuals for political purposes. when he does the right thing, so they also in this case picked they don't want to hear from him a tweet that was about what either. could happen in the future. >> there seems to be a lack of leadership in almost every it's an opinion to say he thinks sector of our society, political, media, otherwise when the election would have a fraud. this tells conservative what it comes to something like this we've known for years, there is where we need people to have a double standard. they do push against us in ways good ideas about how to improve they don't against the other things. we take instances like this and political side and this is the we make them political and make

president finally taking action. them nationally political. if you want to improve howie: leslie, while many relationships between police forces and the communities republican as well as most they're supposed to serve you democrats agree that mail fraud need to have changes. in this type of hysterical has not been a major problem in reaction that's not focused on the past, president was doing a what's actually causing problems doesn't lead to that. forecast in november, i warn, i the media could serve a very good function here. fear that there will be howie: i've got 20 seconds for widespread fraud, why isn't that a response. acceptable political rhetoric? richard. >> listen, yes, i think the >> first of all, if he is giving media can serve a function by an opinion -- the problem is that twitter has to decide who really broadcasting what's happening because what's happening on the streets go far they want to be when they grow up and they haven't defined beyond george floyd. what's happening on the streets themselves. they don't have the staff is pain that has deeply rooted clearly like you said, howie, to have their own fact checkers. in the black community. if they're going to fact check in 1955, emmett till was it's going to be across the board. if it's just going to be a lynched. in 1992, rodney king was beat by platform to opine, to present police officers. one's opinion, then they've got six years ago, eric gardner was to back off and let that go. choked, said i can't breathe. but i do want to jump in on what here we are again in 2020 buck said. talking about the same case and you know, there have been tweet nothing has changed and that's as you remember about nancy why people are angry and the president seems to be missing pelosi or joe biden and twitter that anger and the historical refused to take it down. so it's not always that roots of it. howie: well, i would just point twitter's the bad guy with conservatives. they've done it to democrats, out that --

>> the lawless was coming from liberals, progressive as well. howie: a lot of liberals are police officers. howie: i'll get to that in a not happy with facebook or moment. derek chauvin, the officer who twitter. was charged, had his neon it's doesn't bring confidence floyd's neck for nine minutes. that it's been tweeted that that didn't happen until days of media coverage. recovering the riots that president trump is an orange erupted in cities across america tonight with journalists among nazi. thejack dorsey says there is those being injured, that's next. someone accountable for the employees, that's me. >> the silicon valley giants and the social media space hi. usually share the politics of uh, can you tell me how to get to i-70, please? the overland faculty lounge. it's a far left institution, o-okay, are you -- talking about facebook, talking about twitter and they're going ah, yes. thank you. to have employees who are playing speech police, it's switch to progressive and you can save hundreds. preposterous, if you believe you know, like the sign says. these should be neutral platforms. we get into the debate whether it's a private company, it is a private company, can they do whatever they want. i work in rue.

i'-- radio you can't say whatevr you want on the air. the left wing bias of silicon valley, we see it coming up again and again. howie: leslie, the president's executive order would weaken the legal immunity of the social media giants because they've got all this content from all of us and all kinds of people and they don't really police it very well. you talk about twitter needing to grow up. i think even though the president may be acting at a peak, it raises an issue, why shouldn't they be treated like media companies that are responsible for some of the prop begapropaganda on their sites. >> here's the problem when the internet came around, when the internet first came into being, people were saying first amendment and how of is its going to work if it's not being regulated. that's what we're seeing right now. a question, how o is this handl. buck brought up a point, we're

both syndicated talk show hosts. on radio you can't say certain things but if you have a podcast or an online broadcast which i do as well, you can, you can say switch to progressive and you can save hundreds. tenergy intoll whohelping others.eir to anyone helping and caring in their own way. many more things, you can say thank you. the nasty words you aren't like you, we're always on. we're proud to put our energy behind you. allowed to say by the fcc. howie: don't say them here. >> it's a very different -- southern company howie: i want to get back to the top stories, the riots across america in the wake of george floyd's killing. buck, you're in new york where police cars were set on fire among other things. there was a headline yesterday, the xfinity voice remote will find exactly that.for, the president fans the flame. happy stuff. president trump's first instinct the group's happy, i'm happy. is to look for someone to fight. you can even say a famous movie quote fair or unfair journalistic and it will know the right movie. circle of trust, greg. observation? >> completely unfair. i had the president on my radio relax, the needles are jumping. show last week. you can learn something new any time. we spoke specifically about the education. george floyd case. he said it was horrible, that and if you're not sure what you're looking for, say... the justice department was looking into it, that he expected authorities to bring surprise me. swift justice. he said exactly what i would of what you love with the xinity voice remote. want any commander in chief to say because there isn't a whole

lot of debate or discussion about how horrible what happened in minnesota was. if you're looking for people fanning the flames, i saw protesters on the streets, i walked amongst them several times because they're all over the city, they're screaming profanity at police officers, calling them racist murderers. it's appalling. on top of that, you add the destruction of property, nypd cars lit on fire and the media soft-pedaling this. this is an expression of rage. no it's looting, arson and violence and it needs to be stopped. howie: let me get a response from leslie. you're in los angeles where a state of emergency has been declared. do you see the media as soft howie: television screens were dominated last night by the pedaling the violence and fire riots that broke out from setting and looting which in minneapolis to los angeles, from some cases have caused people's new york to philadelphia and lives. other cities in the wake of >> absolutely not. without media, we would not have george floyd's killing. seen the death of a man through photo journalists for wcco in minneapolis was struck in the someone who fortunately was leg by a rubber bullet and this filming it on their phone. happened to msnbc anchor. look, the president is not being

responsible. he's talked about shooting the >> the police continue to fire. looters. sounds like they're chanting do we having called due process in it, do it, like they're daring this country. second of all, the overwhelming majority of the protesters are the state troopers to fire on not looting, are not being them. >> all right, guys. i got hit. violent and are not shooting yeah, i got hit. hold on. which the president, again, is not doing. a president, a true leader, howie: mollie, i do see the howie, should be trying to make calm. have you to remember, it's not media starting to question the just the death of this man. police handling of these violent they've been disproportionately disturbances. i don't see a lot of media affected by covid-19 and debate about the protesters, if unemployment as a result of you want to call them that, the covid-19 and hundreds of years rioters who are looting stores, without reparations and -- setting police cars on fire, setting police stations on fire except to try to distinguish them from the many thousand howie: guys, we've got to get whose have tried to protest to a break. the president clarified, said he peacefully. was not talking about shooting >> i actually do see a bit of a looters, talking about looters difference between how local getting shot, obviously there's differences of opinion on what media are handling the violent his original tweet meant. after the break, the president riots versus peaceful protests taking heat from some of his own media allies for pushing an and how national media seem to be consistent lat conflating th. unfounded conspiracy theory linking joe scarborough to an we are seeing not enough

attention paid to people who are aide's accidental death 19 years ago. seeing their communities destroyed, businesses burned and the destruction that comes with that in the long term, given the media were so upset when people were peacefully protesting lockdowns a few weeks ago, they don't seem to have the same coverage when it comes to the violent riots that are hitting so many and destroying american cities. howie: when journalists talk about the anger, given the history that you recited in the last segment among the protesters, can that be read as some kind of justification for the looting and riots and the fires or do you think that is not what is intended by the coverage and the commentary? >> i'll say this. i think majority of -- 99.9% of these protests have been peaceful. i know folks that went to one, likely going to one this afternoon, because we're calling for justice. at the same time, there are folks who are engaging in violent acts and that's wrong. let's be very clear and let's

understand that if you saw what happened in st. paul, the mayor said very clearly, all the folks that were arrested for engaging in violence, none of them lived in st. paul. so we have agitators here. doesn't matter what party they belong to. >> that's something that was not true. they -- >> mollie, mollie -- >> i did a fact check. >> i did not interrupt you. >> you said something factually untrue. >> let me finish. thank you. here's what's true. what's true -- go ahead, howard. howie: i was going to say it was reported by minnesota's governor and president trump there were many out-of-state agitators. later it turned out local news organizations found out it wasn't true. please finish your comment so i can move on. >> sure. thank you. listen, i think attend of the day what we're saying here and what's happening is that african-americans have been condemned for every way we protest. when we kneeled with the nfl we were condemned. when we protest peacefully we were called thugs.

what else do you want people to do. howie: president trump has gone coverage saying liberal governors and mayors have to get tougher on the crowds. i'd say the governors have said the violence is unacceptable. how much coverage should the blame game get? >> not a lot. politicses will do poll -- politicses will do politics no matter what. that includes the president of the united states who is running for reelection. what matters is not how the rioters and protesters vote, it doesn't matter right now who people choose -- who the kind of elites in this country are choosing to blame for this. again, what matters is the focus and the coverage going forward of how justice is sought, how justice is pursued. a quick note on the rioters, which came from a source who is a psychiatrist last night, he pointed out to me, the media needs some empathy here when

they -- to take into account that when things go bad, it is in human nature to make things worse. this is why we see things like during the coronavirus pandemic drug abuse is spiking, alcoholism is spiking. howie: i have to jump in. >> people's natural tendency is to make things worse. howie: since you mentioned the coronavirus, we passed a grim milestone this week, 100,000 americans dead during this pandemic. quick answers here, mollie. washington post said president trump didn't have any special commemoration, a moment of silence, no collective sharing of grief. he did tweet the next day about heart felt sympathy and love for howie: president trump is those who died. is that kind of criticism fair? taking flag from some media conservatives but still >> the media picked an arbitrary continued to tweet an unfounded number to have a big shared consistenconspiracy theory aboue media event and they were upset that not everybody else death of a woman who worked in participated in it. what would be nice for the media joe scarborough's office, after to do a better job of accurately calling the morning host a nut conveying of who is most job who might or might not be vulnerable from the virus and get more focused attention on linked to the death of lori that. nursing homes account for more

than half of the deaths. we need to do more there. klausutis, trump tweeted psycho and when we focus on them, we joe scarborough is -- he knows can also understand that what we've done to the general population has all sorts of bad what is happening. >> it's a very suspicious thing effects including some of what we've seen this weekend. howie: richard, quick response, and i hope somebody gets to the bottom of it. please. >> you're suggesting that joe >> this is simple. the coronavirus is scarborough was responsible? >> a lot of people suggested disproportionately impacting that. african-americans, people of >> it is heart-breaking, the color. at the same time we are dying at the hands of police. at the same time, 100,000 cruelty is unspeakable. americans are dead and it's not just donald trump. 40 million americans are unemployed. i'm asking the question, i think it's been happening for 19 a lot of mediaembers are doing the same thing, where is the years. donald trump is right, it wasn't white house. where is presidential his original scummy thought. leadership? howie: all right, i would point out leaders across the country have to be involved in these solutions but thank you all, richard fowler, mollie hemingway other vile people driven by hatred and petty politics and gillian turner. up next, a black reporter for thinking that they were going to hurt me. cnn is arrested while covering howie: buck sexton, forget the the minneapolis riots and liberal media, the conservative wall street journal editorial protesters attack the cnn building in atlanta. page said of the president, ugly i use rakuk in-store and online. or anything i want to buy is going to be on rakuten. even for him, it's a smear. rakuten is easy to use, free to sign up and it's in over 3,000 stores.

conservative washington examiner crazed twitter rant vile and i buy a lot of makeup. unworthy of his office. shampoo, conditioner. these are his allies. books, food. >> look, the president fights travel. shoes. stuff for my backyard. very hard against people and anything from clothes to electronics. sometimes he throws a punch that lands in the wrong place. workout gear. i think this is an instance i even recently got cash back on domain hosting. where you see this and say he you can buy tires. has a very personal feud with to me, rakuten is a great way to get cash back joe sca scarborough. on anything you buy. rack it up with rakuten, sign up today to get cash back on everything you buy. scarborough has been separating out the family for a moment, it's terrible they have to go through this, i'm sorry they have to be dragged through this again, scarborough was effectively saying the president was a tray tore for the -- traitor for the last few years for the country. there's a deep hatred between these men. i think the president is trying to goad scarborough. if you're asking did this one -- was this one that a lot of people that really support this president wish he could take back, i think the answer is yes. howie: okay. leslie, the new york times noted that fox didn't cover the story in prime time but didn't point

to my coverage on this program. my question is the media so innerred to insults, that this isn't that big of a story? >> perhaps for some of his supporters. but i've been a guest on some conservative talk show host's program and they said this was going too far. there's a couple things here. when you are a leader and he's personally president -- especially president, you're going to be attacked. you're going to be attacked by the media and the political party you weren't the choice of. to personally attack an individual and it has ramifications for that family, to dredge that up and when the family says stop, you've got to stop and what bothers me further is somebody around him, maybe ivanka, somebody needs to say, daddy, stop, that's gone too far. right now, we're in a pandemic. there are riots in the street. if he and joe scarborough want to go in the back and duke it out or duke it out on twitter, fine. there's no reason to drudge this

family and make them relive a very painful wound, this man and the loss of his wife. howie: i agree with the distinction between two people in the public arena, scarborough and the president, and the family which didn't ask for the spotlight. one of the media conservatives defending president trump is rush limbaugh. let's listen. >> trump is throwing gasoline on the fire and he's having fun watching the flames and having fun watching the leftist journalists react like their moral sensibilities have been forever rocked. and can never recover. howie: he was sort of making that point. my question is, having thrown the punch, having talked about the conspiracy theory, remember, scarborough was in washington when the woman died in florida, it was ruled to have been a heart problem that caused her to fall and hit her head, why didn't the president stop when

even conservatives were saying stop, move on, the country's in a pandemic. >> one thing about this president, no one can tell him what to do. he tends to double down when there's an outcry, oh, you can't do this. this is part of the point rush limbaugh was making. rush is illuminating at a time when there are far more important things, that's not to say this was all fine and this was a clean twitter fight so-to-speak, but there are far more important things going on in the to country. the outrage from the media over this -- this is about focus and outrage from the media. and also what we see even with general flynn and the revelations that the fbi effectively did entrap this man and hid evidence and all the other things that have come out but there's so much more outrage about this. the new york times piece looked like this was a greatest injustice done to this done any a long time. they need to scale it back a little bit. except their audience i suppose expects it. howie: final thought from

leslie marshall. >> i think in november we are going to see people who are tired of a president not being presidential, who are tired of a leader not leading and not leading by example, and who are tired of the leader, personally attacking whether it's a member of the media or individual citizens who he is the president of even if they didn't elect him to be. howie: well, just remember the media are not very popular, whether or not this particular case was over the line as i believe it was. buck sexton, leslie marshall, thanks very much. the president celebrates the latest media layoff, a clash between two cnbc hosts and final thoughts on the rioting across america. looks like they picked the wrong getaway driver. they're going to be paying for this for a long time. they will, but with accident forgiveness allstate won't raise your rates just because of an accident, even if it's your fault. cut! sonny. was that good? line! the desert never lies. isn't that what i said? no you were talking about allstate and insurance.

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howie: cable news can get pretty heated as you know. on cnbc's squawk box, the hosts

savaged each other in a debate about the stock market and covid-19 deaths. >> you panicked about the market, panicked about covid, panicked about ventilators, panicked about ppe, panicked about ever going out again, panicked -- >> joseph, you didn't panic about anything and all you did was try to help your friend the president. that's what you did. every single morning on this show. every single morning on this show, used and abused your position. >> that's totally unfair. i was trying to help investors keep their cool, keep their heads and as it turned out that's what they should have done. that's what they should have done. >> here's the news. howie: he was accused of doing trump's bidding. he interviewed the president a few times. they made up the next day. president trump is celebrating media layoffs during these tough economic times, great news, the boring but very nasty magazine

the atlantic is rapidly failing, going down the tribes -- tubes and is laying off over 20% of the time to limp into the future. the atlantic which backed impeachment did run a piece headlined, donald trump, the most unmanly president. the editor in chief said we have never gotten more subscribers in a day than we did today. finally, for a nation reeling from the devastating coronavirus and the economic shut down, the race riots that have broken out across the country after george floyd's killing makes it seem like we're living new an endless nightmare. it's a reminder this can be a dangerous profession and for all the media's flaws, my colleagues are out on the streets trying to bring you the story of these terrible clashes. we need to do a better job of capturing the black community's frustration and anger over the years but also to hold accountable those who use tragedy to unleash violence and

lawlessness and we need to minimize the political blame game involving president trump or anyone else in politics. america is burning and we in the media need to rise to the occasion. that's it for this edition of media buzz. i'm howard kurtz, thank you for joining us during these turbulent times. we hope you'll check out my facebook page. check out my podcast, media buzz meter, apple itunes, google podcast, fox news podcast, dot-com, spotify. we're back here with much more. seemed like we had a pretty packed hour today. see you next sunday, 11:00 eastern, with the latest buzz. from farms to backyards, wheels are turning. seeds are being planted. animals are getting fed. and grass is growing. and families are giving their all to the soil because no matter how uncertain things get,

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eric: it is the morning after. after a fourth night of rioting that put the nation under siege, protests continued in cities across the country over the death of george floyd. that in some places have turned into lawless an arc ky.

the -- anarchy. police cars were torched, more businesses looted, from new york city to los angeles. but you know, in some places police and protesters marched together, a reminder that cooler heads will prevail. hello, everyone. welcome to america's news headquarters. i'm eric shawn. arthel: i'm arthel neville. more than 1600 arrests happened