the nation, just individuals who have taken advantage of the situation, but i think the key to solving it is really taking the time -- >> dana: david, i'm sorry. i have to cut us off here. congratulations on getting it all solved there at waller and company. thanks for joining us. bill hemmer, quite a man. >> bill: thank you, dana. a wise message. let's get rolling. good afternoon. i'm bill hemmer. america bracing for an eighth straight night of unrest. the president threatening to deploy the military to dominate the streets. we begin in minnesota. the governor is set to give an update. we'll watch that. demonstrations in minneapolis, mostly peaceful overnight. at this hour, city streets across the nation are filling up again. more nan 20,000 national guard members on the ground there 28 states. we're back live in st. paul. in some cities last night, we saw the violence and the riots

and the looting including too much of that here in new york. more on that in just a moment. right now, president trump receiving an intel briefing as thousands protest, some not far from the white house. we begin with national security correspondent jennifer griffin at the pentagon. how is the military responding to the idea, jennifer, of going to action on american streets? >> defense secretary mark esper has ordered thousands of active duty troops including military police units from for brag and a battalion from the 82nd airborne to stage in d.c. at andrews air force base. this video shows the d.c. national guard arriving at the white house. i'm told that unless the president invokes the insurrection act, which many top pentagon leaders have argued against, the active duty troops cannot deployed legally. military planes landed last night carrying the troops. attorney general barr who i'm

told by a senior administration authorized the u.s. the use of force to remove protesters in front of the white house last night, just issued a statement praising the reduction in violence thanking defense secretariry esper and general milley by name, promising a larger law enforcement presence tonight. bill? >> bill: what are you hearing from the pentagon? >> commanders and recently retired officers whom i have spoken to have expressed anger about the u.s. military being used as a prop by the president in the standoff with protesters. a senior defense official said neither general milley nor secretary esper knew that the president planned the photo op in front of st. john's church yesterday. in fact, you'll notice millie stepped away from the photo op. esp esper's conference with president trump raised eyebrows. >> i agree we need to dominate

the battle state. i stand ready, the chairman is ready, the head of the national guard is ready to fully support in terms of helping mobilize the national guard. >> general tony thomas, a respected army ranger tweeted the battle space of america not what america needs to hear ever unless we're invaded by an adversary or experience a constitutional failure i.e. a civil war. the chairman of the house armed services committee expressed dismay. "i have serious concerns about using military forces to prerespond to protesters. i remain gravely concerned about the president's autocratic rule and how it affects the judgment of our military leadership." he has called for millie and esper to testify next week on capitol hill. >> bill: thanks, jennifer. here's the mayor in new york now. watch. >> we will take steps

immediately to ensure there will be peace and order today and tonight and all week in new york city. >> bill: this was a brutal night in new york last night. there will be an 8:00 p.m. curfew the rest of the week after another night of violence. it was everywhere. so far, peaceful protests but rioters looting businesses and smashing stores. laura ingle back on the streets in new york to give us a taste today. laura? >> hi, bill. what you're seeing behind me is another very large peaceful protest taking place here on foley square. we're in downtown manhattan. you can see, we'll show you tape what it was like earlier. chants in the street. what everybody is hoping is that the peaceful protest will stay this way with a large group. as we have been reporting through the week, police and many others believe that there

are outside agitators coming in at night and changing the tone of what we've seen on these streets. well over 1,000 people were here this afternoon chanting george floyd's name and demanding change with police policy. last night as you mentioned, new york city had their first test of a curfew with this current unrest at 11:00 p.m. something that will come earlier tonight at 8:00. rioters and looters swarm city streets. many believe these are different groups of people from the protesters. i spoke one-on-one with nypd's terrence monahan after we watched the arrest of an alleged looter on the streets of new york. he said that he felt like the curfew worked as they were able to arrest over 700 people overnight according to monahan. still violence and theft raged all night promoting new york's governor andrew cuomo to criticize the mayor of new york and nypd saying they didn't to their job. monahan told me andrew cuomo should come out on their streets with them as they took a look at

what they're dealing with and say this is about a call for the national guard that will come. listen. >> the mayor doesn't know the city. nypd knows the city. we know how to deal with these kids, how to deal with these problems. we don't need people standing in zones. may ex-is ask -- exacerbate thi and make the protests worse. >> we won't see the national guard in new york city. not yet. the protesters are sitting down, remaining quiet. they're saying george floyd's name. we'll bring you more. >> bill: thanks, laura. i want to bring in howard safer, the former new york fire commissioner. welcome back to our programming here today. good afternoon to you. i see you now, sir. >> good afternoon. >> bill: can you explain why you wait until 11:00 p.m. to enact a curfew?

>> i cannot. i cannot explain why it was 11:00 p.m. i can't explain why they waited three days to do it. the fact is doing a 11:00 curfew gives the perpetrators and the vandals three hours to have their way. by the time 11:00 comes around, disorder is in full bloom diss play. something that i just don't understand. the nypd is better than this. i believe what is happening here is they're taking their signals unfortunately from mayor de blasio who is not a supporter of the nypd. i watched him this morning talk more about investigating cops actions in these riots rather than the perpetrators and the vandals. >> bill: sir, just for context, there's corner delis in this city that have not allowed to stay open past 8:00 p.m. because the government told them to stay home and keep the doors shut. you have store owners that have not been to their stores since mid march because of this covid.

they were not even given a chance to go back to their stores and board up. how does this make sense? >> makes no sense. you know, i ask the question, what is the strategy? for the almost five years that our police commissioner, there were no riots in new york. because the mayor made it clear the first perpetrator would get arrested. we used intelligence to figure out who the leaders were. we worked closely with the community leaders to help them calm things down. unfortunately i don't see that happening. what happened last night in new york is very disturbing. >> bill: nothing is open past 8:00. i don't know. do you realize that in your former town? nothing is open. why do you allow a three-hour window for organization? >> absolutely insane. we know there's antifa, other organizations there,

well-organized, providing logistics and bricks and bottles and stones. we're just letting it happen. i know the nypd is better than that. i know chief monahan is better than that. i know that commissioner shea is better than that. they must be getting the wrong signals from the mayor because he's been talking about less policing than more policing. >> the governor said the mayor didn't do his job. the major underestimates the scope of the problem. could the governor have superseded him? >> the governor can. but i don't think it's necessary. there's no better police department in the world than the nypd. if you give them a mission and you give them rules of engagement, they will take care of business. it's clear to me that they're being reactive instead of proactive. one of the things that make them such a good police department and why there's not been riots in new york in the past is that because as soon as something

bares its ugly head, the police department moves, the rest of the perpetrators and then makes sure that peaceful protesters can protest. for 100 years, we have had protests in new york where we actually go and we use segmented areas where protests are told here's where you can protest peacefully and we'll protect you. >> bill: last question here. do you think the 8:00 time makes a difference for new york tonight? yes or no. >> i hope it does. although, you know, they have gotten a taste of very little policing. i would make it 7:00. i would make sure anybody on the streets after 7:00 was stopped and arrested if they were violating the curfew. this requires very proactive policing.

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>> bill: breaking news from minneapolis. the state of minnesota files civil rights charges against the police department for the death of george floyd. meantime from philly today, this happened. >> our country is crying out for leadership. leadership that can unite us, leadership that brings us together. leadership that can recognize pain and deep grief of communities that have had a knee on their neck for a long time. >> bill: so joe biden making the 45 minute trek to philadelphia earlier today, giving his first major campaign speech since march. peter doocy reports live on what he said today. peter? >> bill, that was joe biden's first trip out of delaware since mid march. he used it to pitch major

changes to police tactics. >> congressman jeffries has a bill to outlaw choke holds. congressman put it on the president's desk in the next few days. >> that follows a comment from biden yesterday closer to home in delaware. his first in-person campaign event. different approaches to shooting suspects. >> the idea that instead of standing there and teaching a cop with an inarmed person to come at him to shoot him in the leg instead of the heart is a different thing. a lot of things that can change. >> biden's remarks were less than an hour from his delaware home in philadelphia, the same city that he launched his campaign in and the same city he's head quartered in. that's where there's a primary today. a judge of elections in scranton, pennsylvania said more mail-in ballots than usual today. one of the nine states police d.c. holding a contest today.

there's 479 delegates up for grabs. biden would have to win about every one to mathematically clinch the nomination. but bernie sanders, they're still asking his supporters to cast ballots for him so he has more of a say in the convention process. so it's unlikely that biden will clinch what seems more likely today is that his out of town travel will start to resume in a more normal way for a candidate because lawyer for george floyd family says that biden will attend the floyd funeral in houston, texas. until then, people are voting. you can see washington d.c., socially distant. people are about six feet apart on the sidewalks. all day there's been several dozen people at a time in line waiting their turn. bill? >> bill: thank you, peter. want to bring in karl rove. good afternoon to you today in austin, texas, a couple things to bring to mind here. role the video from the guys last night.

the president and the cabinet members that worked for him crossing the street from the white house over to st. john's church. bear in mind now, this was on fire the day before that. the day before that you had a number of protesters outside the white house setting fires in the alley and also tearing into an apple store, whatever they could find near the white house. roll the video. thank you very much. okay. here's where we go. karl, you can see bill barr, robert o'brien. a lot of criticism of this trip. here's part of that. hillary clinton tonight the president of the united states used the american military to shoot peaceful protests with rubber bullets and tear gas them for pa photo open. this is a horrifying use of presidential power against your own citizens has no place let alone in america. vote. you thought about this today sir? what do you come to mind? >> well, there was a curfew that was about ready to be imposed. maybe it would have been better that the curfewed naturally

cleared the area out. there's a lot of exaggeration in areas. there was no tear gas used. here's the point. the president was trying to project strength. he and his people thought this was an effective way to say we're going to grab control back of our streets and communities. and to think about it. right across from the white house, the night before, somebody tried to burn down one of america's great religious treasures. st. johns episcopal church. we saw violence conducted several nights in washington d.c. where people were breaking in to as you said the apple store. i was taken by -- i used to live in a neighborhood called kent. there was the mcarthur market run by an immigrant family. they got destroyed. what did they do? what caused them to become a victim of mindless violence? the president was trying to send a message that we're not going tolerate in a moment of anguish

and grief. so somebody said to me, we did he walk back with the policemen on either side, two rows, it would have been better to come back by himself. fine. lots of criticism. everybody gets to be a critic nowadays. the fact of the matter is we have the two things going on in america. a desire as a country to come together and reject the kind of violence that killed george floyd and americans want to come together and while we a grieve peace foul protests, they want an end to the violence and mindless violences that we're seeing on the streets of new york, los angeles. >> bill: that's on camera right now. mentioned joe biden. reflect on what he had to say today. politco had this headline. america struggle's for its soul, biden struggles for relevance. what do you think about that?

he had a major speech today. >> the speech has moments of eloquence in it. but it was a campaign speech. that was the problem about four minutes into the speech, he starts going after president trump by name. he says the violence done by the president to our economy. he talks about the president is more interested in power than principle. he ought to care about all of us, not just his donors. what america wanted to hear is a voice of unity. they didn't want to hear campaign clap trap. it was. he accused the president of wanting to quiet our voice. what the president wants to do is quiet the violence that is being done to america's small businesses, to america's communities and in many instances to the most vulnerable parts of our communities like in south minneapolis. so i thought he had a chance to become as politco said more relevant, but he would become more relevant by taking this away from politics, not diving

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>> bill: mentioned this just a moment ago. some pictures from l.a. not this one in particular. there's others. you can see large crowds moving across a four-lane road. this is a part of this in l.a. some economists warning the unrest will delay the economic recovery on top of the coronavirus. charles payne host of "making money", fox business network. let's show the lower part of manhattan there. charles, new york city is not even in phase 1 yet. think about the recovery that is ahead for this town and more.

go ahead. >> yeah, it's -- new york city -- bill de blasio just botched this so badly. the images last night of macy's being looted and the other stores. it's remarkable, bill. i have to tell you, you know, bill de blasio talks about needing money for the city. the longer he keeps it shut down and on top of it allows looters to ransack it, the more money he needed. he's creating this conundrum for himself and the citizens of the city that it's going to be tougher, not easier when it's time to reopen. this will slow down the economic recovery for parts of the economy. for new york and l.a., it's devastating. >> bill: what do you think about the neighborhoods? what is the future for them? what sort of timeline are they looking at? >> i grew up in harlem in the 70s. i had entire blocks that were

nothing but rubble. my play grounds were abandoned buildings. we knew one day they would come back. took about 30 years. you know, some of the abandoned buildings are condominiums. people had to grow up in those places. it was an ugly eye sore that made them feel less about themselves, gave them less hope. new york saw mass exodus before coronavirus, before the looting, before the instability that de blasio can't control. he will make it worse and it will be that way for a lot of major cities. local officials thought it was okay for the better part of valor to let the city be destroyed because it was only "property." it will have a major impact on citizens and kids that have to live there. >> bill: thanks, charles. hope you come back soon. >> thanks. >> bill: been too long. thanks, charles. in los angeles, st. paul,

minnesota, a large group gathered in a park. that's from l.a. we saw new york city as well. washington square park, which is down on the greenwich village area. they're gathering. it is early. meanwhile from last night in st. louis, four cops shot after peaceful protests dissolved into mayhem. also, the former mayor of cincinnati is calling on local leaders to step up to protect the cities. i'll talk to ken blackwell. first, a new york city police officer's plea for unity in a crowd last night. >> it has to end today. tonight. when the sun goes down, people protesters, go home. we'll get rid of those that are ruining your neighborhoods. is mealtime a struggle?

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scan the globe. this is paris, france. riot officers are firing tear gas after fires were set during a demonstration against police violence and racial injustice. they were there at a paris courthouse in homage to george floyd and a french black man that died in police custody four years ago going back to 2016. just watching that around the world as we reflected on the gatherings in the u.s. l.a., protests and looting continued in southern california last night. several cities in the region extending curfews. this was the scene after night fall. william la jeunesse reporting lives in l.a. with the sun up. william? >> bill, we had protests peaceful last night in seattle and phoenix. not so l.a. hollywood and van nuys. 350 arrested including 46 for felony theft or looting, if you will, which has meant a new reality for small businesses.

smoke shops, liquor stores, groceries. they've had to use the second amendment, firearms as a deterrent. this is one of them. they had private security with ar-15s this morning. because of what you saw at the other shop in santa monica, which was burned and looted on sunday. because that was unprotected. now, just down the street from that location was a liquor store. that was looted and smashed and they were basically ready to clean out the place when a neighbor showed up with a long gun and said not here. literally came to the rescue before they took everything. >> just basic community policing. >> absolutely. i'm just fortunate enough to live in a nice community. the people here care a lot. >> happened yesterday in van nuys where owners of a

liquor store were protecting it with their long firearms when a half a dozen looters showed up and tried to hit a golden jewelry store next door. a standoff. the reporter became a witness. >> three vehicles drove up in front of the "buy gold." they told them get away from that. they started arguing about it. after that, that's when we started flagging you down. >> so they were able to stop that from taking place. i think one or two of the leaders were detained. there's two protests going on right now in hollywood. separated by police. this area you're looking at, there's about 1,000 here altogether. a lot of retail, commercial. opportunity for looters. police taking a more aggressive stance. also, bill, the l.a. times did analysis of arrest records. 3,000 people arrested in l.a.

county since friday. let me see. all by 18 were released on the first day. they're still going through records on those. mostly for vandalism, burglary and looting. the curfews are in effect from 6:00 p.m. tonight to 6:00 a.m. tomorrow. bill? >> thanks, william. nice to see you. william la jeunesse in l.a. this is missouri now. >> i don't understand the destruction and theft. what does steal having to do with this? folks came down just to steal, just to destroyed property and just to hurt officers. that was the purpose of them coming. >> bill: that's in st. louis. the police chief speaking after four officers were shot. want to bring in early smith, the missouri a.g. thanks for your time. what happened with the police officers last night, sir? >> well, i think what you saw in st. louis last night is horrific and totally unacceptable. you had police officers being shot at, four were shot. you had firefighters responding to businesses being burned.

they were assaulted and blocked from getting people to do their job to protect us. a retired african american police officer who was protecting property, shot and killed and broadcast live on social media. you had businesses burned. the assault on the police officers last night was certainly i don't know the pale. my job in working with federal prosecutors to make sure we bring these people to justice. >> bill: so you're joining the u.s. attorneys to prosecute illegal rioters. define what you consider illegal. what would that partnership do for the people of st. louis? >> the one thing to make clear here is that, you know, the first amendment, our god given right to demonstrate, to be heard, to express ourselves is protect it. people out there are doing that. last night in st. louis, that crossed the line. there were some folks that took advantage of that situation. we sent a clear message with our partnership with the u.s. attorney's office that we

announced yesterday. if you're in missouri rioting, looting, destroying property, we'll prosecute you. it's unique. it's unprecedented and we're serious about it an intend to prosecute fox. someone shot. this sun acceptable. we ought to expect more. our laws mean something and they need to be enforced. >> bill: one last question here. do you have a curfew in st. louis? >> there wasn't one last night. i think that as the attention grows tonight, we want to make sure we're supporting local law enforcement, the national guard is on the scene. the highway patrol is on the scene. we want to do everything we can. >> bill: good luck to you. eric smith, thank. nice to talk to you.

the former mayor of cincinnati says that mayors have a duty to restore order. at foxnews.com, ken blackwell writes this. writers guarantee the many businesses in their communities will never reopen again. local leaders have a chance to stop lawlessness instead of watching as rioters destroyed neighbors. ken blackwell is with me. we've known each other a long time. make your point. >> your last guest was spot on in terms of what needs to be said. there's those of us that will defend to the death the right of the first amendment, the constitutional right to speak out and to confront. but you have to do it peacefully. now, look, you and i know that there are a number of reasons why poor neighborhoods are poor neighborhoods.

there's capital flight, people are net payers of taxes. they have poor schools and high crime rates. at a time when we were coming out from covid-19, now we see this organized attack on the civility of our cities. mayors have -- mayors are at the top of the spear. they have the responsibility. the president can't do this from the oval office. governors can't do it from their governor's mansion. mayors and local officials are on point and they have to show leadership. they have to speak out against this wanton attack or criminal element and greater than that, intelligence networks indicate that there is a domestic

terrorist operation going on here to disrupt and create chaos. >> bill: i mentioned i had known you a long time. i don't know if you've had time to think about this. put the focus back on george floyd for a moment here. you think about the actions of this officer. you think he tortured george employed because he was african american? or do you believe this officer, that this is the way he conducts his business with too many of his suspects in minneapolis? >> no, i was among the first to come out to say that all of the officers needed to be fired, they needed to be arrested and needed to be aggressively prosecuted. the local officials can talked about second degree, third degree or first degree murder. there for all of us to see was an abuse of power and a wrongful death. that has to be spoken to and

spoken to with authority and spoken to firmly and clearly. >> bill: thank you for your time, sir. ken blackwell back home in ohio. nice to see you. thank you. six warrants issued for six atlanta police officers after video appeared to show cops forcefully arrested two college students that happened in a curfew crack down. the video shows cops firing tasers at the students and dragging them out of their cars. two officers have been fired. the atlanta police chief said this is not who we are, this is not what we're about. the meantime, in the topic of george employed, two autopsies so far have been conducted to find the cause of his death and they different on critical details. dr. michael bahn did one at the request of the family. he joins me live next.

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>> from houston, texas. we have the helicopter in the air. we know there will be a funeral in tuesday for george floyd. a massive service. joe biden will attend that. we got that word a few hours ago. wanted to show you a shot from houston as we canvas the country yet again. the houston police chief says he plans to address the march once it arrives at city hall. stand by for that two autopsies, differing now on what exactly caused george floyd's death. they agree on one thing. his death was a homicide. the medical examiner said floyd's heart failed but the family requested an ain't autopsy which showed that he died as result of asphyxiation. doctor, thanks for being here. if this case goes to trial, if

and when, you're arguing before a jury and trying to prove your christmas. you found asphyxia, lack of blood flow to the brain and underlying health issues. were you able to examine george floyd's entire body, sir? >> yes. the entire body except for some parts that were removed at the first autopsy.

now, my situation is we've gone further in the restraints because my concern is that there were restraints to the neck that was caught on television, the video, which was very clearly, and what isn't as clear is the

restraint on his back. there was one of the other officers that was kneeling on his back. kneeling on his back is what prevents the diaphragms from going up and down so he can't breathe. that's why he's calling out "i can't breathe, i can't breathe." eric gardner couldn't breathe for the same reason. the diaphragms are not functioning because of pressure on the back. in addition, he had pressure on the neck, which causes other problems such as the blood flow to the brain is diminished and the breathing in through the trachea is compromised. so together, they caused less oxygen, insufficient oxygen going through the brain and the heart and that's why he dies. >> bill: can i stop you there? listening very carefully. what you're saying is very important clearly. do you see this as a point of

contention in a court of law? >> i don't think that will be a point of contention. because -- >> bill: because it could be murder in the first degree versus murder in the third degree or manslaughter. these are the distinctions that lawyers get into. answer that. >> whether or not there's heart disease is a question. in my opinion, if he had heart disease, it was minimal, didn't cause or contribute to the death. the press release did say that they found some heart disease. we didn't find it in the heart that was replaced to the body. there may have been some disease in the heart that was kept. if there was such, that could be a factor. but it would not be a factor in my opinion that would question the cause of death. that could come up in

litigation. >> bill: okay. just one last question. i'm almost out of time. very tender topics here. will there be a reexamination on behalf of the state? either the county level or the state level in minnesota? >> there isn't going to be a further autopsy. but i'm sure that the state and the -- a very good medical examiner. andrew baker is very good. i'm sure he will be consulting other people, yes. >> bill: dr. michael bowden, thanks for your time today. thank you. these protests across the country, watching them throughout the hour. raising the questions about the role of social media into this. more on that in a moment as thousands of people return to our nation's streets and we hope for a peaceful night tonight. >> the family has called for peace. the family has called for peace.

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california, we reached out to twitter and facebook, but according to twitter's policy, they say that they have banned hateful conduct saying you may not promote violence against or attack other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, natural and national origin,, caste, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, or disease, and we do not allow the accounts that say their purpose is to incite harming others on the basis of these categories. shielding one of president trump's tweets that they feared it would incite violence. bill. >> bill: thank you, susan lee. i want to show you images now of los angeles, los angeles, california, curfew set to go into effect 6:00 local time, five hours from now. also houston, texas, where we see the growing crowd throughout the past hour here in memorial service funeral on tuesday for george floyd in houston and here

in the heart of it all new york city, as we move towards curfew four hours from now. let's hope for the best. we will see you tomorrow at 3:00 eastern and we will see what we get together as the nights grows older. here is neil. >> neil: we are watching the same city as you are, better than three dozen across the country right now, big crowds developing, the ones getting a lot of attention, new york city, los angeles, and houston, texas where the funeral of george floyd, houston resident before he moved to minneapolis will be next tuesday. all at the same time we are hearing that a number of cities have moved up there curfew times in new york, what was an 11:00 p.m. curfew that was supposed to start will now be 8:00 p.m. watching the time what was 11:00 p.m. will be 7:00 p.m., annan's annan santa monica, california what was 4:00 p.m. will now be moved up to 1:30 p.