>> shannon: trace gallagher continues with our live coverage next. most watched, most trusted, most gratefully spent this part of the evening with us, good night for now from washington, i'm shannon bream. ♪ >> what's his name? >> george floyd! >> trace: nine days after george floyd died under the knee of a police officer, there is new hope for justice and peace. in a country torn apart by hate and anger. word of additional charges against the cops whose actions or lack of action sparked a nationwide crisis hitting americans against americans. hello, everyone. i'm trace gallagher in my sandals with continuing live coverage of events that are still unfolding across our country. it is 10:00 p.m. on the west coast, 1:00 a.m. back east, and on wednesday, we got news from minnesota at three fired police officers will face

charges of aiding and abetting in the death of george floyd. a fourth former officer, the one who pressed his knee on floyd's neck, is now accused of second-degree murder, a crime that could put him behind bars for 40 years. the news has triggered a wave of raw emotion over the thousands who have marched in george floyd's name, demanding equal justice and an end to police brutality. the protests were largely peaceful wednesday, by day, but at this hour, as always, calm remains uncertain. several major american cities, including new york and los angeles, remain under curfew, and the national guard continues to stand vigil in 31 states. in washington, military troops are on standby in adherence to president trump's vow to use what he calls dominant force if necessary. it's a position that has put the commander in chief at odds with his own defense secretary. and barack obama broke his

silence on george floyd's murder, giving his thoughts on how to turn protests into poli policy. while at the flash point in minneapolis, the place where george floyd took his last breath, a grieving son expressed his own thoughts. >> every night with my family, no man or woman should be without their fathers. >> trace: protesters have been calling for officer derek chauvin to be charged with first-degree murder. they did not get their wish, but he is now being charged with second-degree murder, and the other former officers involved are facing charges of aiding and abetting second-degree murder. lets go live to minneapolis were senior correspondent mike tobin is standing by live with the latest. mike? >> trace, it's been a quiet night here in minneapolis, with small police presence. this after a day of big developments. you mentioned the first of the big developments, the upgrade of

the charges against police officer derek chauvin. the other officers connected to this case are spending their first night behind bars. thomas lane, too tired, jl et cetera can come all booked in hennepin county jail on a charge of aiding and abetting. bond is set at $1 million to many demonstrators say they are still not satisfied. >> it ain't enough until they all behind bars for the rest of their life or what they did. >> i can't really say when the right time to leave the streets is. people have to feel -- this is a situation where they are expressing themselves, they are feeling united with the community, you can't put a time limit on that. >> i'm not exactly sure how many things need to be done, how many need to be arrested for us to leave the street, but today, right now, we are celebrating, but it still isn't enough for us. >> there were several demonstrations around town, you can hear sirens off in the distance, but several demonstrations around town, they have gone past curfew, many of them, but police aren't cracking down because there is no trouble. trace? >> trace: mike tobin my for us

in minneapolis, back to you as news breaks, mike, thank you. speaking of breaking news, news coming out of brooklyn were one new york police officer has reportedly been shot, and another officer has been slashed. what we don't know at this point is if it is protest-related, or some other crime. we do not know the details of this, just that one has been shot and one has been stabbed. their conditions are unknown. we will continue to bring you the latest out of brooklyn. there have been assaults on police officers numerous times over the past nine days in and around new york city. the latest as it comes out in new york. not to the west coast come in very compelling pictures cominge thousands have gathered in a mostly peaceful protest against the death of george floyd. correspondent jeff paul is in the middle of it all with the latest. jeff? >> yeah, trace, another night at another display of force from law enforcement all over california. on my right over here, you have

the l.a. county sheriff deputies, and just beyond them, that is the national guard. they are sort of locking down this road that goes into downtown, bad, of course, was the scene of a protest today. and older, just this direction, you see chp is out here blocking the on and off ramps to be highway. therefore, protesters can't get onto the highway, if they were thinking about doing bad. but overall, it has been a very peaceful night tonight, throughout california, and especially the l.a. area. there was a moment where even i dodger stadium they did a thing where they put the flashlight to the sky for george floyd for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. without, of course, is the amount of time he was being held down by police. back in downtown, nearly 10,000 people gathered to not only protest but also to bring to attention some of the injustices that have been done to the black

community regarding police and the use of force. mayor garcetti also addressing protesters, and also talking about curfew. take a listen. >> still more active on safety not coming from protesters, to be very clear, then we've seen, because people exploit these moments. we've seen caches of bricks, a gun hidden. bees are still times in which we need to make sure that we are not walking away from our responsibilities, to keep protesters safe, and our community safe. >> while the protests have been fairly quiet, there was a pretty scary moment in new your port beach today, that's when investigators say the driver ofa mini cooper, according to them, drove purposely into a crowd of demonstrators, a crowd of about 50 people. luckily, no one was seriously injured, and the driver was later arrested. again, curfew started about an hour ago here in los angeles, trace. so far, really haven't seen too

much action. it's probably been one of the more quiet nights, since maybe saturday, but again, it is still very early. trace? >> trace: that marks a couple of nights in a row, jeff paul come alive for us in hollywood. jeff, thank you. onto protest and politics, a former president and secretary of defense both making waves, criticizing president trump's response to the nationwide protest and calling for reform to the criminal justice system. fox news correspondent lauren blanchard is like for us in the nation's capital. laura? >> trace, former secretary of defense mad dog mattis, quite forceful with his words tonight, speaking out against his old boss. mattis criticized the use of military force in the nation's capital. he said this week has left him angry and appalled, riding an article in the atlantic, "militarizing our response as we witnessed in washington, d.c., sets up a conflict, a conflict y and civilian society. erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between

men and women in uniform, and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they themselves are a part." mattis says using force to disperse crowds for president trump's church photo op on monday violated constitutional rights of protesters, writing, "we know that we are better than the abuse of executive authority we witnessed in lafayette square. we must reject those of us would make a mockery of our constitution." no love lost between president trump and the general, he tweeted, "probably the only thing barack obama and i have in common is we both have the honor of firing jim mattis. the world's most overrated general." i asked for his letter of resignation and felt great about it. his nickname was "chaos," which i didn't like him and changed to "mad dog." his primary strength is not military but rather personal/public relations. i gave him a new light, things to do, battles to win, but he seldom brought home the bacon. i didn't like his leadership style or much else about him,

and many others agree. glad he is gone." speaking a former president barack obama, he held a town hall to address floyd's death and the unrest gripping the nation. here is what he had to say. >> as tragic as these past few weeks have been, as difficult and scary and uncertain as they've been, they've also been an incredible opportunity for people to be awakened to some of these underlying trends, and they offer an opportunity for us to all work together to tackle them, to change america and make it live up to its highest idea ideals. >> two hours past the curfew here in washington, a little later than we've seen any time otherwise this week, it has remained pretty peaceful. there was quite a large protest outside the capitol around

midnight. those protesters have moved on from this area, back toward the white house, continuing on their march. the police are monitoring their movements. trace? >> trace: as will be. laura what blanchard, thank you. the death of george floyd on memorial day has brought back a painful debate about racism and police brutality in america. now many are wondering about the perspective of the police officers on the front lines, and the difficult balance they have to strike. and this national debate involves everyone, including the president. >> we have to get the police department -- everybody has to do better. has to do better. this is a long-term problem. this didn't happen today. >> trace: let's bring in chief clarence cox the third, former president may national organization of black law enforcement, executives, and chief, we thank you so much for coming in. you spent a lot of time on the streets. you know this subject better than any of us ever will. is there a solution, are the

recommendations that you would offer to improve relationships between police and african-americans? >> yes, i certainly do. we had a real comprehensive study done under the last administration, and it resulted in a very deep dive, and the findings from that was that the 21st century policing recommendations, it was very clear, and those reforms, had they been put in place, i think would have helped the situation that we are currently in, called for some mandatory training efforts, and you know, i always feel that if you tied money to these type of things, it'll simply work itself out. of these things right now are a voluntary -- chief doesn't have to mandatory do certain training, the use of force, varies from all over the country. you know, one agency to another,

you know, including jurisdictions that are adjoining. we see this as a systemic problem that has occurred, and i think the reason we are seeing these riots is because we always have a moment of science, we always send our deepest condolences, and we often lower flags for these type of incidents, but we never do anything about this problem, that is continuing. >> trace: do you believe the disparities are real out there, chief? i mean, do you think that when you go out on the police are out there, and you are out there in the streets -- and i'm wondering what you think about the protesters, and the way they have -- the way they have carried on these protests for nine days now. would you suggest a change? do you think they were effective? we know the looting has taken away from the message, but what about the protests themselves? do you believe they are effective? >> listen, i certainly agree with the protesting. i'm a little bit discouraged with the looting and folks who

have made this an opportunity to do some things that they shouldn't have done. i'm concerned about the young people, particularly middle school age kids and below, that are out there. i feel that this is an opportunity for them, history, but i would rather them see this on tv at home, though small kids that are out there, because i'm concerned about their health and welfare. and we are in the middle of a pandemic, and somebody somehow forgot about that. but you know, had a colleague earlier tonight to say that nobody in this country hates a bad cop more than a good cop, and i know that to be true, because there are so many of us out there who have done this thing right for a very long time, and we continue to do it right, alongside some of those folks who do it wrong. and i think it's incumbent on us as leaders to make sure that we rid ourselves of some of these folks who are doing it wrong. noble is now asking that the legislators will legislate as we have voted them in offices, and

we ask that they change and make these things mandatory, make the use of force policies mandatory, tie it to money, and do some things that will have some real teeth into it, rather than moments of silence is an deepest condolences. >> trace: yeah, there have been tragic consequences because of these protests and the looting and violence afterwards. we know an african-american home unsecured a police officer lost his life in oakland. another one from a former police officer, a captain in st. louis named david doran, he was shot and killed by trying to protect a pawnshop of a friend of his. i want to play some sound from the family of david doran and get your reaction on the other side, chief rate >> it was senss come over tvs and stuff that is replaceable. thanks for getting the real message for the protest on the positiveness of that is supposed to come out of it, and we get this negative light that is shown on situation that really needed life to be brought to it.

>> my father-in-law, he didn't deserve this, he was a lovable person, never met a stranger, and he was just a good, good, solid man. >> trace: and the sun was compelling to me when he said, you know, television, it's not with televisions. this whole thing was about the life of a black man and absolutely outrageous, we saw that video of the officer with his neck on george floyd, his knee on george floyd's neck, but then you think about this retired police officer, and this police officer in oakland that was shot and killed, and the consequences have been horrific. >> and you know, that is the sad part about it. all of them are sad, whether it is a victim of unjust killing by law enforcement, or law enforcement officer being killed, but this one with david struck me bad because he had served his time and served his community in a very honorable way, and to be killed in an off-duty capacity as he has

retired is even worse. it hurts me to the core of my heart. and, you know, there's so many unintentional consequences with this entire episode that folks are not even identifying. i was there in ferguson after the buildings were burned and the new construction came in, and i saw where there was a mom and pop store before the riots began, and it now has been replaced by a starbucks. and so, as we talk about re-gentrification and those type of things, those things are not being considered as these people continuously tear up our whole neighborhoods. just here in minneapolis the other day, when they burn down the police station, i was sharing with my daughter how i felt so bad about that, and she, you know, millennial, she didn't quite understand and i said, think about the unintentional consequences without one. there could have been evidence to major crimes in that building that was destroyed, and now, some folks that should be in jail will probably walk because

of lack of evidence. there's so many things going on that we have got to get a grip. i grew up in atlanta, nonviole nonviolent, a baptist church, and i've seen nonviolent civil rights has worked over the years. it has done a tremendous job, and some real great things right now because of the nonviolent tenants of dr. martin luther king jr. these young folks, they have a watered-down version of black history, when time of year in february, and unfortunately, we have failed to educate them and to let them know that we can do this without all this violence. you have now removed the narrative of george floyd and others who have been essential essentially -- sensuously killed by law enforcement. >> trace: it is, chief, and you always were in your career over the years, we appreciate your time tonight. we hope there are solutions and you're starting to bring them. gee, thank you again. >> thank you. god bless you.

>> trace: three arrested on terrorism charges were planning to spark violent during recent protests in las vegas. they are linked to a right wing extremist movement. federal prosecutors say their plan began in april in conjunction with protests to reopen businesses closed because of the coronavirus. more recently, they sought to capitalize on protests over the death of george floyd. according to the criminal complaint, they were arrested saturday while on their way to a protest in downtown las vegas, and after making molotov cocktails. president trump's decision to threaten to use military to quell the violence protests in washington is not sitting well with some current and former pentagon officials. was the president within his rights to call in the military, or did it further fueled some anger? we will hear from a former naval intelligence officer about that story next. bottom line is,

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accompanied mr. trump to the church monday night, and the photo op triggered the use of what some believe was tear gas and rubber bullets on peaceful demonstrators, though the white house and park police say it was not tear gas. the president's threat to use what he calls a dominant force has also rattled former defense secretary james mattis, who said this, quoting, "i have watched this week's unfolding events become angry and appalled. donald trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the american people, does not even pretend to try, instead, he tries to divide us." with us now via skype, economist and former naval intelligence officer john jordan. he is also an attorney and overseer at the stanford hoover institution. john, i mean, if you look at what mark esper said, the defense secretary, do you believe that it carries enough weight that because he does not want -- or does not support the use of military -- that it might be very difficult for the president to do so?

>> absolutely. this is advice the secretary of defense would normally offer the president in private. by doing so in public, he was making it politically untenable for the president to go forward with this. let's just be clear about this, the president's response to this and the steps taken with regard to the riots and dealing with the military have been so ham-fisted, it's unfair to hams, basically. secretary esper and former secretary mattis are institutionalists, in addition to following the chain of command and being sworn to preserve, protect, defend the constitution, they also want to make sure the military isn't drawn into a type of political and broglie a which is so consumed the justice department. they're looking out for the military as an institution, as well, trace. >> trace: which is not to say, john, that the insurrection act has not been used before, because we know it has been >> absolutely, trace beer to has been used since 18 oh seven, five

times without the consent or being requested by the state, beginning with rutherford b. hayes -- ulysses s. grant, in suppressing the ku klux klan, once by president eisenhower, and twicey president kennedy. in the south, all of which having to do with enforcing desegregation. so there is -- it's not without precedent, it's within the president the lawful purview as long as certain criteria are met. it's the messaging and the optics which have been upsetting to so many who wear our country's uniform. that said, it's still not unlawful. it's just optically horrible. >> trace: it's interesting, john, that you bring up the fact that mark esper, the defense secretary, said this publicly instead of privately, which would be expected, and that you were saying -- well, it's for political purposes -- and here today, you will need to listen to the defense secretary talking about how this is not supposed to be political. watch. >> hard to keep a department out of politics, which is very hard

these days, as we move closer and closer to an election. remaining a political means there are times to speak of and times not to command as i said in my earlier remarks, what happened to george floyd happens way too often in his country, and most times, we don't speak about these mattersa department. as events have unfolded the last few days, it became clear this is becoming a very combustible national issue. and what i wanted to do -- i had made the determination as events escalated in the last 72 hours that the moment had reached a point where it warranted a clear message. >> trace: any chance that clear message, and he stays in the administration at all, john, or is this about to be over? >> i think he has to. mark esper is a very capable secretary of defense, and to fire him, the optics just makes this a thousand times worse. all secretary esper did was lay down a marker and make it politically impossible for the president to continue to move

those military police and combat engineer units into the city. i don't think that will be necessary. ultimately, local law enforcement and if necessary the national guard can deal with it, but it tells you how seriously the military wants to stay out of political trouble. >> trace: yeah, when the national guard is there, which you see, they are on the ground and a lot of cities around the country. john jordan, thank you for your time, sir. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> trace: i want to kind of focus, we've been showing pointless -- we were -- on the left-hand side of the screen, kind of following, people bouncing around, what we are seeing here is really the same thing we were seeing last night, you have police on one side of the fence, protesters on the other side of the fence, and police are saying the same thing they were saying last night: get away from the fence. we don't know why the fence is so special, but it is a perimeter that is blocking the police access, and so they do not want the protesters to encroach on the fence, and last night, when the protesters did not, they were -- they got the

response of teargas and other, you know, kinds of deterrent weapons to be used there. and i pushed them back. so far, they appear to be staying away, because we have seen no signs of any kind of commotion at all. we'll keep our eyes on portland from cape etv. meantime, nationwide protests calling for justice, and earlier wednesday, they rejoiced, three more officers involved in the arrest of george floyd have now also been charged, and the charges have been upgraded for derek chauvin, who pressed his knee into george floyd's neck. but is it enough to calm the outrage? we will hear from a criminal defense and constitutional law attorney, next. ♪

♪ >> trace: well, a relatively peaceful day for marchers and police in new york city, a strict curfew has been in effect since 8:00 p.m. east coast time and there have been some arrests due to people failing to observe that order. bryan llenas standing by live with more, and brian, we understand things got a little testy tonight between protesters and police. what is happening now? >> trace, that's right, let's first begin with some breaking news. there are three nypd officers who are at the hospital, king county hospital in brooklyn, two of those officers were shot, another reportedly

stabbed in the neck. these are nonlife-threatening injuries. we are told they are expected to survive. what we do not know, what is unclear, is whether or not these were targeted -- whether or not, you know, this was a targeted attack on police, or if this was a response from criminal activity. when we do know, we will let you guys -- we will update you on that story. back here in new york city, though, times square and the rest of the city had 8:00 p.m. curfew tonight, and yes, the nypd strictly enforcing that curfew. we were alive on the air at 9:00 p.m. when 94 peaceful protesters were arrested on the corner of third avenue and 50th street in midtown east in hampton. the police surrounding the protesters, and really giving them -- they were out about an hour past curfew and they started rounding up and arresting the protesters. this is what the nypd chiefs told us right after the arrest. >> we've been walking around for a long time.

8:00 is our curfew. this is the area we had our issues in over the last few nights. everyone knows what has happened here. we gave them warnings. for a while, curfew is in effect, curfew is in effect. no one wanted to leave, so we brought our teams in. >> and that is the scene all over the city tonight. the nypd cracking down on curfew violations at the scene, we spoke to a protester, and this is what he said. >> i asked them to take me. i told them to take me. take me come and let them go. they don't want to negotiate. they just want to take everybo everybody. >> you know there is an 8:00 p.m. -- you know -- >> for my brothers to be let go, yes! let them go! with them go! they don't need to go nowhere. they ain't doing nothing wrong.

>> trace, so again, today, thousands of people marching in new york city, but those same protesters stayed way past curfew. we are chances like "f the curfew" and all of that. the nypd says they need to get people off the street because they need to protect businesses, and these protesters are out, it really serves as an opportunity for looters and other criminals to do that, and so they really want people home -- by the way, we are in the middle of a covid-19 pandemic and they would rather not have protesters out at that time. there's already a lot of talk on twitter, the public advocate here in new york city just said, you know, i can't believe what i just witnessed and experienced at another site in brooklyn with the nypd. going after, you know, trying to -- they are arresting protesters for curfew violations and there's already talked the nypd may be using too much force, but this has been to be a constant topic of conversation in the city moving forward. trace? bryan, we will get back to when we find out about those police

officers wounded, bryan llenas live in new york city, thank you. minnesota officials have charged three more former police officers in the death of george floyd. derek chauvin, who put his knee on george floyd's neck, had already been arrested, but he is now facing second-degree murder charges. the three other former police officers are charged with aiding and abetting. >> i am happy that all of the officers have been arrested. we deserve justice. >> trace: and since his initial arrest, derek chauvin has been transferred from county jail to a maximum security prison. let's bring in ken belk income a criminal offense attorney and a constitutional law attorney. ken, thank you for joining us. lester with derek chauvin first, the charges upped second-degree murder, does it put more of a burden on the prosecutor, doesn't mean this will be much more difficult to prosecute this case? >> well, trace, thanks for

having me on first. secondly, there is no reason why i'm a you know, george floyd had to die at all. there's tons of nonlethal options for officers in this situation, it doesn't appear they employed them. with respect to the murder charge being a second-degree charge, the reality is it does make it harder case to prosecute. they have to prove that the unintentional killing of george floyd occurred during the commission of a felony. now, most felonies have an element of intentionality, meaning that, you know, officer chauvin would have had to intend to commit in a felony, doesn't appear he intended to commit a felony, and certainly it resulted in george floyd's death. >> trace: yeah, why not, can, charge all the way? why not go for the goal in charge murder one, and then hope that maybe you get a plea for murder to? >> look, i don't know that there's going to be a plea here,

because i don't think they can offer anything that is acceptable. this case is probably going to have to go to trial, the reality is, murder one is very tough case to prove, and i know there's a lot of clambering that ag ellison should have charge murder one, but that requires one crucial element: premeditation. now, we can say a lot of terrible things about things officer chauvin did on that fateful day, and what would strain credulity to say is that he woke up that morning and while drinking his coffee planned to murder george floyd. clearly, this was not something that was planned. >> trace: you mentioned attorney general keith ellison, i want to play sound from him and get a reaction on the other side. watch. >> we gathered all the facts that we could. we reviewed the criminal statutes. look at case law. we consulted with each other. and we arrived at these charges, we believe they are justified by the facts and the law. >> trace: he says charges come he's talking about the other

three officers, tou thao, thomas lane, and j. alexander kueng, who have been charged with aiding and abetting second-degree murder. what does the whole case look like? to have officers being pitted against officers, testimony against testimony? what does this try to look like the line? >> i think the aiding and abetting charges -- look, nothing can excuse the fact that these officers acted inappropriately when they did not try to stop officer chauvin. he should have been stopped, morally, they are guilty. legally, aiding and abetting? i don't know that they advised or aided in the commission of a felony. they just sort of looked the other way, unfortunately. and without them aiding and advising, i don't know you can prove it. >> trace: that's the thing is, when you talk about timewise, they are still facing significant time in jail. >> yeah, absolutely. regardless of whether officer chauvin is convicted of

second-degree or third-degree murder, second-degree comes with a maximum sentence of 40 years, third-degree murder comes with a maximum sentence of 25 years. if he is convicted, it's going to be up to the judge to impose that sentence. >> trace: ken belk income a good insight. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> trace: we are learning more about the four officers who have not all been charged and fired from the minneapolis police department. at least two have prior complaints lodged against them. derek chauvin, who used his need to pin down george floyd's neck, had 17 complaints against him. one for pulling a woman out of a car earning a speeding stop. one of the other officers, tou thao, was the subject of six complaints, and one of those complaints led to a 2017 excessive force lawsuit. the other two officers, thomas lane and alexander kueng were relative newcomers to the department. protesters packing the streets coast-to-coast as they demand justice for george floyd, concerns are now growing about a possible spike in covid-19

cases. how concerned should we be, and what does this mean for reopening plans? we are joined now by fox news medical contributor and family and emergency medicine dr. janette nesheiwat. doctor, thank you so much for joining us. would you consider the protesters -- i mean, we see these large crowds, and they are just kind of moving from block to block to block together, sometimes arm in arm, a lot wearing masks, but would you consider these people, the so-called super-spreader's of covid-19? >> exactly right, trace. we have these mass crowds of thousands of protesters in close proximity with one another, and the concern is there going to exacerbate the pandemic we are in right now, coronavirus is still here, it still with us, ao remember, it's a highly infectious and highly contagious and virus, and what we are seeis asymptomatic super-spreader's, so one person can spread this virus to several other people, and those people can then pass t onto another group of people, and so you see an exponential

rise in the number of cases. we see this, for example, in nursing homes, in prisons, in meat factories, it's very common, we can even see it in the community, as well. so you are out in these crowds, next to someone who is shouting, who is screaming, with spewing viral particles in your face, eyes, and nose, before you you know it, picked up this virus, and days later, weeks later, you may show symptoms. earlier today, i had patients come in with symptoms of coronavirus, you know, last week they were out in the protests. even george floyd tested positive on his autopsy for coronavirus, and he was an asymptomatic carrier. >> trace: wow, that's the first i've heard of that, dr. nesheiwat. it's interesting, because we talk a lot about these being young people. by and large in these protests. oh, young people, they do very well with coronavirus, but it's not just them. it spreading it to others, who are older and more susceptible and vulnerable. >> absolutely, you are exactly

right. they may pick it up even if they are asymptomatic and never develop symptoms, they can bring it home to mom, dad, their neighbor, someone who is immunocompromised, and let's not forget, speak trace, the highest death rates we are seeing are in african-american communities, hispanic, latino, so we really need to keep one step forward, because the key is, if you are out in these protests, go get tested, and then, just make sure you are following simple, basic rules of wearing a mask, keep your hands washed and clean, try to avoid these large crowds. if you are out there, trying to keep 10 feet away from you. overall, merrick is doing a good job, we see a decrease in the number of hospitalizations,n e.r. visits, and decrease in the number of deaths overall even though we have a couple of outbreaks in the pacific northwest, we are doing a good job and we want to stick to it and not regress. >> trace: that's good information because we have kind of taken our eye off the whole covid-19 crisis the past couple of weeks because we have been so

obsessed by the whole george floyd case, so things are improving, that is a good thing. i know dr. anthony fauci came on and said, which was encouraging, we could have a couple hundred million vaccine doses by late this year, early next year. what are your thoughts on that? >> i think that is fantastic. i'm really excited about that. astrazeneca with the university of oxford and london, novak, madera now, we've got lots of vaccines underway, so i really think it's going to play a huge role in saving lives, but it's a matter of 6 to 8 months and it should be out on the market, and definitely a good thing to look forward to. >> trace: i want t i don't wantt you in a political mess, but if there is no big spike of covid-19 after these protests across the country, it's going to be very difficult for politicians to say we can't open up, because you can't really get any closer than these people have been for the past nine days, so would it be a good argument -- not politically speaking, but a good argument to

say, well, maybe it is not spreading like we thought it was anymore? >> yeah, sure, it can be, but you know, we don't know. remember, this is a novel virus, new virus, we are learning as we go. what we learned the past couple of months, we will be able to apply that to potential future outbreaks and make sure we don't have any huge spikes like we've seen this past year. >> trace: yeah. dr. janette nesheiwat, good to see you, as always. >> good to see you, trace. thank you. >> trace: three men arrested on terrorism related charges for planning to spark violence, right? these three men were apparently planning to spark violence, tens of thousands of people protesting from coast-to-coast, but as demonstrations the best way to heal the racial division in america? ahead, we will hear from one pastor about his idea to bring black-and-white communities together, next.

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♪ >> trace: well, a look now, we have live pictures coming out of portland, i want to show you quickly, as we were saying earlier, the portland police treated minutes ago they were not going to engage protesters, and minutes later, his dumpster goes up in flames. we are not sure the protesters started this fire, but it's in the vicinity of where they were protesting, although we should note that all night long there has been no -- absolutely no

problems in portland, at all, and the police were just kind of letting the protesters hang out. it looks like the fire is being put out. we will give updates on that as we get them. as we know, anger boiling over across america in response to video showing george floyd, an unarmed black man, dying while in police custody. all officers involved in his arrest are now facing criminal charges. the officer who put his knee on floyd's neck, could come if convicted, go to prison for 40 years. thousands of people from all walks of life making their voices heard this week. protesting all across the country. but the charges and the protests enough to heal racial divisions in america? we are joined by pastor brian gibson, senior pastor and founder of the peaceably gather movement, and pastor, thank you so much for joining us. i know you were also instrumental in getting churches open during curbed 19 pandemic, and now you believe churches really are the answer to this racial divide, explained that for us, sir.

>> yes, sir. it's an honor to be here with you tonight. i believe the church of the lord jesus christ is essential and it's absolutely the answer to get us through this trying time in america. what we saw happen to mr. floyd was despicable, should never be allowed in this nation, nor should any racism, and the church is the healing ball that comes and takes a community and put it back together. i think what we are seeing right now in america, when we took the church out of play for almost 12 weeks, we've allowed a wickedness, we've allowed evil, and we've allowed things to come into our land that wouldn't have been here if the people of god would have been praying together, so what we think we have to do now, and we did it yesterday in louisville and in five on their cities, we brought african-american pastors, latino pastors, white pastors, men and women, all came together and prayed in the face of god, and we saw healing happen. even so african-american pastors

praying for police officers in louisville, the day after a black man was shot there during a protest, and i saw tears flow, i saw god touch people. i really think the only answer is jesus and church. >> trace: just unclear, you plan to go to areas where there is heavy protesting on sunday and have pastors come in and gather people together, and then, what is the hope for these various -- these various services, if you will? >> yeah, you know, the government had a ppe plan, payroll protection plan. what we are going to do is pray for peace, we want to preach peace in those areas, and then we want to partner for peace. the hope is the more we are together, the more we begin to see the world through each other's eyes. i'm a white man. i'll never see the world through black eyes. a black man will never see the world completely through white eyes. but we can all try. and if we all try, just a little bit, we can make the world a better place.

that is with the church does, it makes the world a better place. >> trace: and when these people show up, pastor, to these various locations around the country, what is the message you want them to take away with them and potentially spread to othe others? >> yeah, the message is that jesus heals, jesus helps, jesus saves, and if you are hurting on the inside right now, there is a god in heaven that loves you. and that this confusion that we see right now, this hatred we see right now, the violence we see right now, it's not an answer. it perpetuates itself. see, love is really the thing that casts out fear, cast out heat, so our message is a message of love, it's a message of peace, it's the message of jesus. and it cures all real pains and problems in life. >> trace: yeah, and i know -- i got to go, pastor -- but i think he probably wish you could walk into these protest and start -- and start talking to people. have you thought about that at

all? >> oh, no, absolutely. we plan on doing that. we plan on going to the hardest hit areas. as a matter of fact, i was praying where they were protesting just yesterday in louisville. so yeah, walking up and talking, our pastors need to do that. we cannot be afraid of protesters, and a lot of our protesters are peaceable, right? my organization is peaceably gathering. people have a right to that, this is america, right? >> trace: i hate to cut you, but i've got to go. thank you, sir, for your time. we appreciate it. continuing coverage of protest and looting across the country. i'm trace gallagher. more at the top of the hour.

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>> what's his name? >> george floyd! >> trace: an answer for desperate cries for justice. there is new hope for peace in a country torn apart by hate and anger. word of additional charges against the police officers whose actions or lack of actions sparked a nationwide prices pitting americans against americans. i'm trace gallagher in los angeles with continuing live coverage of events unfolding across our country. it is 11:00 here on the west coast, 2:00 a.m. in new york city, and wednesday came news from minnesota the