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of that community throughout the service today. thank you so much for being here tonight. that's the story of june 4th, 2020. have a good night, everyone. we will see you back here tomorrow. be well. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." for the past week, all of us have seen chaos engulf our beloved country. the violence at the destruction has been so overwhelming, shocking, and awful, and vivid that it has been hard to think clearly about what's going on. o step back far enough to ask even the obvious question. the most obvious of course is what is this really about? what do the mobs want? they can't answer that question, they have no idea, they just want free ipads. but what about apple itself and
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the rest of corporate america which is enthusiastically supporting the riots? what about members of congress, the media figures, the celebri celebrity, what do they want out of it? that's the central mystery. now suddenly, it is obvious. should have been obvious the first day. this is about donald trump. of course it is. we just couldn't see it. for normal people, donald trump is a president. you may like him, you may not like him, but either way, they will be another president at some point and we will move on as we always have. for donald trump's enemies, there is nothing else. everything is about trump, everything. donald trump defines her friendships, their careers, their marriages. donald trump affects how they raise their children. donald trump occupies the very center of their lives. as long as he remains in the white house, they feel powerless and diminished and panicked they
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cannot be happy. and everything they do, their overriding goal is to remove donald trump from office. and that's exactly what they're trying to do now. that's what these riots are about. the most privileged in our society are using the most desperate in our society to seize power from everyone else. got that? that's the some of it. the most privileged are using the most desperate to seize power from the rest of us. they are not seeking racial justice. they were seeking racial justice, they wouldn't be denouncing their fellow americans. what they are seeking is total control of the country. and it goes without saying that none of this has anything to do with george floyd. shame on those who pretend that it did, those who fell for the lie, and those who knew better but played along because they are cowards. there were many of those. you know who they are, and someday, we will look back at all of them with contempt.
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meanwhile, the many promoters of this chaos remain clear. they know exactly what's going on, and they know what they hope to achieve by it. with every night of rioting, they grow bolder. now they are openly defending violence on television. >> people worry about the protesters and the looters, and is just people who were frustrated. >> they are frustrated and they are angry and they are out there and they are upset. shouldn't be taking televisions, but i can't tell people how to react to this. >> i'm proud of the protests and i think it's part of the tradition of new york. the violence is bad, reprehensible, but it is not the overwhelming picture in new york. >> destroying property which can be replaced is not violence. >> many see the protests as the problem. please show me where it says protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful. >> tucker: you are crushed by this, you can't believe it's happening to your country, but
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for the people you just saw, the real problem is that the rioting in some rare places is being stopped by police, and their aim is to fix that. they would like to eliminate all law enforcement for good. today, democrats in dallas took down the statue of a texas ranger from the terminal and stood in the airport for more than 50 years. the texas rangers are cops and cops must be removed even when they are made of bronze. meanwhile, the lego toy company has seized marketing sets that contain plastic police officers. apparently too dangerous for our children. so much of this going on right now. it all seems like another episode of this hysteria that groups our culture out of nowhere, you should know it is not that. this is entirely real, it is being pushed by serious people, and they are deadly serious about it. last night, the press secretary of the hillary clinton for
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president campaign in the last election cycle that we did "defund the police." congresswoman rashida tlaib agrees expecting more soon. in some places, they are not talking or acting. steve fletcher represents the third ward in minneapolis. by this week, his city had been completely scorched by riots, at least 66 businesses were utterly destroyed by fire. at three more vandalized or diluted. doesn't even mention that. instead, he attacked the city's police department for trying to contain the violence. "several of us on the counselor working out what it would take to disband the minneapolis police department. you think people in the city would be shocked by that but everyone else nodded their approval. we did this yesterday, "the minneapolis police department is not reform a reform a bowl. coming. according to the city council and fletcher, all nine members of the city council are now
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considering getting rid of the minneapolis police department. hard to believe, but not just there. in the city of los angeles, mayor eric garcetti looks out across the worst rioting in the nation's second largest city in a generation, and almost 30 years and his conclusion? we need far fewer police. could have been better if they hadn't been there. he has announced he's going to cut funding for law enforcement. >> i want you to know we will not be increasing our police budget. how can we at this moment? our city through our city administrative officer identified $250 million in cuts so we could invest in jobs and health and education and healing. found that those dollars need to be focused on our black community here in los angeles. as well as communities of color and women and people who have been left behind for too long.
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will this involve cuts? yes, of course, to every department including the police department. >> tucker: when democrats across the country start saying the same thing at the same time, you can be certain there's a reason for it. in this case, they clearly mean it. according to the president of the l.a. police commission, city officials make up $150 million from the l.a.p.d. more than 10% of the entire police budget in the wake of rioting. in new york, 48 separate democratic candidates signed a letter demanding a $1 billion cut to the budget of the nypd. why are they doing this? there are reasons, not the ones they tell you. they tell you it's about racism and that cops are racist and must be reined in. most americans don't agree with that. that's not the experience they have. in fact, police departments are one of the most trusted
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institutions in the country. according to gallup polling last year, 53% of americans said they had quite a lot of confidence in the police. that was far more confidence than they had in almost any other institution. thanks, religious leaders, the health care system, television news, public schools, corporate american newspapers, name one. how many americans trusted congress? 11%. and in fact, most african-americans still support the police. the 2016 for found that 15% of african-americans had confidence in the police within their own communities. in other words, cops they knew and dealt with. a study by the bureau of justice statistics in 2011 found that among those who called the police for help, more than 90% of african-americans felt the police behaved properly. so what would happen if we got rid of the police? how would americans feel if they actually defunded the police?
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terrified, mostly. that's how we would feel. things would fall apart instantly. would take hours? don't believe it? spend a few hours in a place with no law enforcement and see what you think. talk to anyone who was in baghdad at the height of the iraq war. ask anyone who stayed in new orleans. they will never forget what they saw. here's the key. eliminating the police does not mean eliminating authority. there was always authority. there are no vacuums in nature. the only question is whether or not the authority as legitimate. whether or not the authority is accountable. whether or not you can do anything if the authority abuses of power. in the absence of law enforcement, the answer is no. it means thugs are in charge. the most violent people have the most power. they can do whatever they want to you. that's the reality. everyone obeys the violent people where they get hurt.
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the mob literally rules. that probably sounds like a nightmare to you, because it is. but the people pushing this idea don't see it as scary because they don't fear the mob because they control the mob. that's the key, and they see violence as an instrument of their political power. with mobs in the streets that they control, they will finally get what they want. donald trump out of office, and a hammerlock on the country. that's what's happening. buck sexton is a radio host and a former nypd intelligence analyst and joins us tonight. so i made the critical mistake of being too literal is always sitting back and watching this destruction unthinking criminals are out of control when we should rein them in. there were a lot of people out there on the democratic left who see this as a new political party forming that supports th them. >> defunded the police is insane, but it's not impossible,
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and you already articulated a number of places including here in new york where i am that are having open discussions about this, and anybody who knows what that means is horrified by it especially given what's going on. that means fewer police personnel on the streets, police resources are always concentrated thanks to some of the revolutionary tactics of the 90s that cleaned up places like new york. police are concentrated in areas where there was the most crime. when you have less ability to put those forces and boots on the ground, guess what happens? people in working-class neighborhoods and a lot of predominantly minority neighborhoods see a lot more crime, violent activity, drug dealing, things go badly. so why would these communities especially where we are seeing right now, benefit from that especially because we are in a decades long drop in violent crime in this country, but right now when we have riots and looting, it sounds like the
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purge outside my window on monday here in midtown. now we are talking about cutting the police? this is madness, but it's real. they want to do it. >> tucker: it's real for a reason. here's a difference between the parties. the democratic party never acts against its own political interests. the republican party hates itself and are constantly appraising themselves before their enemies but the democratic party does not do that. they never make decisions without thinking will this increase my power or not. but in some lawless places. explain quickly to the audience what it's like to be in a place for there's no law enforcement or legitimate authority. >> i served in iraq and afghanistan for the cia and one thing that you learn from doing counterinsurgency is the first thing if you want to control the society and control it by destabilizing them if you want to get rid of the old regime, is he would attack cops and counterinsurgency coming of to make sure that law enforcement is able to provide and protect for the population, make sure
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the people don't feel like they're not safe because if they are not safe, guess what? whoever comes along to your earlier point and provides them that security becomes the new authority, so that's what it's like in lawless places and there were a lot of countries that aren't even war zones where there is no real expectation of law enforcement over criminal matters. go south of the border to mexi mexico. talking about the border controls, it is lawlessness down there, that's bad for everybody particularly the most vulnerab vulnerable. >> tucker: it's great to see you tonight, thank you. he watched american corporations, media outlets denounce this nation as a racist nation and sheer as it is destroyed. meanwhile, many of them african-american by the way are paying a price for this rhetoric, not that anyone cares.
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chief breaking news correspondent trace gallagher has been tracking it all day and joins us now. >> pick any major city, and you'll find heartrending stories of small businesses in predominantly black neighborhoods that got looted. st. louis, philadelphia, chicago, minneapolis. the problem got so bad that black activist groups began arming themselves to protect the stores and remember, these businesses seldom have insurance against looting or man-made disasters because the cost is high and the coverage is low, but amid the wreckage and became a very compelling voice that is gaining attention end. elderly and entrepreneurial african-american woman who offered this. watch. >> i've worked here, plus i am a part owner. you said black lives matter, why don't you choke me? i'm black. look what you did to my store. look at the things you've done.
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here all night cleaning up, all night cleaning. telling me black lives matter. you will live. he wanted to loot a store. >> she ended by saying this is a neighborhood. we are trying to build up. you're tearing it down. finally, we should note the retired minneapolis firefighter who put his life savings into opening a sports bar in minneapolis only to have it burned down in the riots has now raised $100,000 to get it open. dr.? >> tucker: would be nice to spend more time celebrating people like that, trace gallagher, good to see you tonight. as if things couldn't get crazier, we saw today members of congress call on the u.s. military to defy its civilian leadership. this is well above a political dispute of course, it's a threat to you in the entire system and
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>> tucker: mark esper is a former defense lobbyist, he was not elected to that position obviously, was appointed to the president who was himself elected. that the chain of command and democracy. they choose their representatives and those representatives choose their staff, but all power flows through the public to vote in elections from you, me, and the rest of us. when cabinet officials ignore the instructions of elected leaders, they are ignoring voters in attacking democracy. in the case of the military, it's especially dangerous. armed services are controlled by the president who is elected. in many countries, that is not the case. when they do something the military doesn't like, they stage a coup where they threaten one. places like that invariably are violent and chronically unstab unstable. we don't want to be like that. we can give our nuclear weapons to the military on the promise that we are essentially in
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charge when they use them because we elect a president to that call. he probably knew all that. it's basic civics for it was until donald trump. recently, the president suggested he might invoke the insurrection act that would allow him to use american troops to quell the riots in our cities. that is his call. you can agree with it or not, but he's the president. it's up to him. is not up to mark esper. mark esper doesn't like it, he can resign and vote against donald trump in the fall and may do that anyway. what he can't do, but we cannot let him do if we care about democracy is to subvert the order of the president he works for no matter who the president is. and yet, yesterday, he appeared to do exactly that. he gave a press conference in which he announced that he opposes using troops to bring order to the country. american troops in syria and afghanistan are absolutely necessary. we can't pull them out. it's a immoral.
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that is mark esper's position. apparently, he said this at the urging of active-duty generals at the pentagon. now, once again, it doesn't matter whether you agree with their position. this kind of behavior is a grave threat to all of us and to our constitutional system. and that system is teetering tonight. but some in washington would like to see the system collapsed completely. just send the chairman of joyce joe mike joint chiefs of staff telling him to deny the elected president in order to suppress the riot. it can't lead anywhere good. for 230 years, we have been the beneficiaries of civilian control of the military. one of the main reasons this country has always been stable. but when the military becomes an independent political force, it's over.
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democracy dies. we resisted that many times just for the second world war. helping joseph stalin, they didn't want to do that. they understand the moral threat of communism but they were told to do it, and they did it because that is our system. is democracy. in that system has worked very well for a long time. in fact, it's why we were here on military. because we can. they are not part of our political systems. their only job is to protect the country, and they do. but if people like mark esper continue on this path, we will not like our military at all. we will be very afraid of them, and we don't want to be. by indeed right as a democrat, former cia officer and happy to have him tonight. thank you so much for coming on. i'm not going to ask you what you think of the president's idea to invoke the insurrection act to put troops on the stree streets. you served in government,
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bureaucrats decide unilaterally to make policy. >> that's what we've seen the past three years, is in it? all of that is coming out. that's a new phenomenon of course. a horrifying one, but not new. what we have here i think of more specifically is a secretary of defense who doesn't get it. right now, let's just cut to the chase. this country is on fire. we are facing an insurrection by people that we don't quite understand who they are and by all indications, they are vibranviolent to leftist bugs. what they don't seem to get as a nation is panicking. 71% of us want them there tonight. 8% of us want the military in our cities tonight. the people are panicking. the country is on fire. now, who is attacking us? mr. esper should know this.
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is anti-for, department of justice, department of justice, nypd, others are saying this very clearly. these are people who are far leftist, folks who have embraced that ideology. they've allied black panther movement and it takes many years to finally put it down. very dangerous. and now the same group who is allied with the democratic socialist, they are back. they are back with firebombs and suburbs and the downtowns. that is something they clearly don't understand. then we have a media that is feeding this flame, this seditious notice. you have brought this up many times including tonight. let me read a headline from slate magazine just yesterday, said the following. peaceful protests are important tool, but so is violence. so now we have media filling the
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airways full of this. put it all together, and the peace that you mentioned, can't put forward the national guard because of the de-escalation so then you take off the military from the table. where does that leave? let me tell you what it leaves. vigilante justice. everybody watching this program arming ourselves. is that how we run a republic? no, it is not. you do not want a country that goes there. that is precisely with the nation is headed and we need for all of our leadership to understand this. if he doesn't get it, doesn't understand it is to protect ourselves from threats both foreign and domestic then get out of the pentagon and let somebody lead who gets it because that is the oath that he took, that i took, and the people of this country demanded by leadership because we are on fire. someone do something about it.
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>> tucker: i couldn't agree more. just have to wonder why people are encouraging this. really should meditate on that. i have been. thank you. so they come in and they sprayed the effort overall your buildings. you probably want to clean it up. bad news, you can't. cleaning up graffiti is racist. a couple women just learned that the hard way and it's on tape. and drew brees meanwhile loves this country and the mob is trying to destroy him. i'll tell you what happens. ...an independent organization that sets strict quality and purity standards nature made, the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand
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but you can see something very intense is going on in that city. a number of shootings in brooklyn last night, you've no doubt heard. let me go back to new york depending on what happens. a lot is happening. a lot is happening in communities across the country. places where people live. you love the place you live, if you love your city, you wanted to be beautiful. that's one of your deepest desires. but when affluent lifestyle liberals force brutalist monstrosities on our biggest cities, and they are everywhere, you have to wonder do they love them cities? know. they hate those cities and the people who live there or they wouldn't do it. by contrast, when you care about your community, one of the best things you can do is help it recover from a disaster to make it clean and beautiful once again. i want to show you an inspiring piece, three young women in
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washington, d.c., tried to do that. they tried to clean up the graffiti all over the buildings here in washington, all over our monuments. we should praise them for doing that. instead, they were attacked for doing that. watch. >> why are you guys removing black lives matter graffiti? >> we tried over there and it wasn't coming off. >> why do you want that to come off? >> we care about our country. >> so you don't care about black lives that in. >> that's not at all what we are saying. not enough to leave up a messa message. >> we are just trying to clean it. >> right. not a great way to use their white privilege, ladies. that's disgusting. >> tucker: this is what happens when everything becomes a test of political ideology.
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your city has to look filthy and covered in spray paint or else you are a racist. how does this help anybody in this country? how does this help african-americans? to make us live an ugly cities with smashed windows and felt everywhere. that's what is disgusting. hence it was any person who would try and hurt and shame other people for trying to make their city better. beauty matters. we shouldn't discourage it. drew brees is one of the biggest stars in the nfl of course. he is also fairly famous for being a fairly decent human being where he's donated $5 million to coronavirus relief efforts in louisiana and the press lauded him for it. >> group, we love you. sorry. >> he may be one of the most perfect human beings because he
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is an awesome father and husband. he's a great friend of people. he loves his team, he is a great leader, and he loves his city. >> tucker: he's a good man, drew brees. of course, he has flaws. we all do. in his case, his could be a fatal flaw. he loves the country were he was born and raised, america. when he was asked his opinion of the national anthem protests when the nfl resumes the protests in which people kneel and degrade the country, he said this. >> i will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the united states of america. brings me to tears thinking about all that has been sacrificed, not just those in the military but for that matter, those throughout the civil rights movements of the '60s and every one and all that has been endured by so many people up until this point. and as everything right with our country right now? no, it's not. we still have a long way to go.
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but i think what you do by standing there and showing respect to the flag with your hand over your heart is it shows unity. >> tucker: seems fair, but is no longer allowed. you are now required to disavow the nation of your birth, to attack your own country or you can't live here. in his case, that meant some on his team denounced him. >> i'm disappointed, i'm hurt. while the world tells you that you are not, that your life doesn't matter, the last place you want to hear it from our the guys that you go to war with and that you consider to be allies and to be your friends. >> tucker: so you can't be an ally unless you disavow your own country. this is insane, and the fact that anybody is going along with this, the fact that anybody is kneeling before the thugs, the
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mob demanding you disavow your own nation is mind-boggling. unfortunately, some publicist or consultant got to drew brees, and he was basically forced to apologize for the crime of loving the flag and his country. but bowing to the mob never worked. never does, which is why you should never do it. stay courageous, stay strong, resist. you will not be rewarded for cowardice ever. that's the natural law. played in the nfl for years, former super bowl champion and we are always grateful to have him on the show. thank you so much for coming on. you probably know much more than i do, but my impression is that drew brees is a pretty sincere and decent man. why are they attacking him? >> he is a good man, and he gives back to his community. and i will say this. what you're seeing here is exactly why president trump will
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be elected once again. americans don't like bullies. they don't like people who demand that we disrespect our flag in our country. i think what drew did, he was spot on. his first statement was so spot on. everyone of us have a certain part to play andrews part right now is to make sure he does what he can to unify that part of the country, those who understand who he is no he's not a not a racist and at the same time, i will call these people out for who they are. bullies and cowards and marxists period. i'm one of those guys that will never, ever apologize for pride of my country, and i'll say another thing. i will always say all lives matter. i don't care what the bully say what we have to say is between the messages of those who truly do what they can to unify in a way that is more soft and those of us that tell the truth, one thing is for sure. we need to understand that we
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are under attack and if the evil of trying to destroy her middle class. you understand that, i live in the middle class. i grew up with it. to 40% and the ones that you see on tv blasting out. cannot tell young people this is what i did, i worked hard, respected people and i paid the price instead can't do it like i did because white people are going to let you get it done. these are enemies to a nation and in particularly, enemies to our race and it's time to stand up against these guys and say we will not be used anymore by you people. tell these people what it really
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is. >> tucker: if they can make you disavow your country, will they make you denounce your spouse, your parents, your children? serious, don't go along with it. great to see you tonight. thank you for that. the push to defund the police is being backed financially by the most powerful corporations in this nation and we will name them for you after the break. the video just ahead.
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>> tucker: the mayor of los angeles has threatened to slash the police force, l.a. police are continuing to battle looters. following for us live tonight. joins us now. >> good evening. that's exactly right. is a pd could be facing some very monumental changes to its budget. keep in mind, this comes at a time when parts of the city were absolutely ransacked this past week, this is from saturday on
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melrose avenue, very popular area from a very popular shopping area, and this is a popular art store there, very high-end art store that got hit by a big group of looters, just busted through the windows, went in there and started ransacking the entire place unfortunately we saw that was several businesses on melrose. several were looted and burned to the ground completely. what police, l.a.p.d., and fbi are trying to do now is you surveillance video as well as civilian footage try to identify some of the people you are seeing in this footage here. they're going to try to gather as much of that video as they can to do some facial recognition, ideas many of them as they can to arrest them further down the road. now, that revolves around police work, so let's talk about that. the city council now proposing slashing l.a.p.d.'s budget by up to $150 million, caving into what some of the activists have been demanding when it comes to
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defunding the police department. originally, they were going to at a big boost going from 1.18 billion to 1.85 billion but now instead, talking about slashing that by up to $150 million. tucker? >> tucker: in the city of los angeles. thank you so much. the city that's been turned upside down by the riots. but we've heard this a lot recently. a riots or the voice of the unheard. you are hearing that message from virtually every american corporation right now, every university, every major media outlet. the writers burning down your city with the support of virtually everyone are unheard, you by contrast are the oppressor and if he would disagree in any way, we are going to fire you and wreck your life. corporations aren't simply tweeting their support for the riots. they are paying for them too. recently, the ceo of cisco announced his company is donating $5 million to the black
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lives matter foundation. airbnb is donating half a so is drop box. intel has pledged a million dollars to assorted antiracism groups and is pressuring its employees to donate more of their money to the foundation, the black lives matter foundation. and then there's pepsi. pepsi is donating and this local revolution has brought to you by your pepsico bottler. tired after a long day of looting? try to pepsi. now what exactly does the black lives matter foundation believe? less than a week ago, the group launched a petition to defund all police departments nationwide. the groups cofounder says we should abolish all prisons. so does intel want 1.7 million felons released onto america's streets, all 700,000 cops fired tomorrow? it's not clear what they want. but they are paying for that.
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they think they can look good for the mob by funding the cause. who knows what they want, but they are responsible for this. on the other hand, the foundation says that one of its other goals is to disrupt the western prescribed nuclear family structure. well, that is certainly hook all major corporations can get behind. people who weren't encumbered by families won't be distracted from being the beautiful worker bees they like most. married with children, stop, get back to work. some companies are donating to or encouraging employees to donate to the naacp legal defense fund. right now, that groups twitter page denied that the riots even exist and instead are blaming police for the violence. the naacp fund is also promoting bale funds, those get violent rioters out of jail immediately. so with all this money flowing out of this country's most profitable corporations, might
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be a nice gesture to donate some money to rebuild some of the small businesses that have been destroyed over the past week. there are a lot of them. they desperately need the help, but they're not going to do that because for a lot of big corporations, the total annihilation of small businesses is one of the best parts of this new revolution. there's always an angle. someone is always getting more powerful. tomorrow, we will name the celebrities who are donating to get the looters, the destroyers, the violent thugs out of prison so they can keep doing it. be sure to catch that, we have a list but up next, amazon has benefited more than anyone else probably from the coronavirus lockdown on the rioting, so obviously, doing whatever they can to censor any of their critics. we will talk to one of them after the break.
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distinguished himself for his relentless skepticism in the face of coronavirus lockdown's and has a new e-book called unreported truths about coronavirus and lockdowns but amazon who has greatly benefited tried to ban the sale of that book until billionaire elon musk tweeted this, "time to break up amazon, monopolies are wrong." they tried to stop this book to read why? >> they did. they told me this morning they weren't going to publish it and then some people with loud voices said that was wrong and they backed off. it's a good day. >> tucker: on what grounds what they do that? did they tell you? >> no, they just sent an email saying -- i have the exact tweet but something like it didn't conform to their standards and were encouraging people to use official sources. they have said publicly but not to me that they made a mistake. people can judge that for themselves but i think the mistake they made was picking on
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somebody or trying to censor someone who had a big enough megaphone to shout back. the booklet is selling incredibly well right now, and i think that's because people really want information that they are not getting excepted from fox, and the mainstream media is not really giving to them. is all facts and data, no conspiracy theories in there and it has information people need and they seem to want that. >> tucker: i am getting a copy, i would encourage her audience to do the same. very quickly, how many others are being censored by amazon, do we know? >> of the great question. we don't know. they can censor on the way in and i have heard from people already emailed me saying it's happening but we don't know how many and we don't know what the standards are. >> tucker: you've got a lot of bravery. you're a novelist, written ten novels and selling them on amazon so to fight with amazon is a bold thing and we are rooting for you.
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congrats. that's it for rest tonight. we are out of time, sadly. but into the capable hands of sean hannity we send you. here he is. >> sean: great show as always and welcome to hannity. we are glad you're with us. tonight, violence, chaos, reigning supreme, stabbed in the neck, two others were shot, and got a mayor in new york city that continues to deny all reality of what's going on around him and listening to repeats of let's imagine by john lennon. looters continue to wreak havoc on the story after story after story, thousands have been arrested, lacks liberal bail policies have to put it right back on the street so they can join their fellow anarchists right back in the action. the people of new york are now holed up in their apartments, prisoners and their own city and to top it off, prominent
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