worked as special counsel for robert mueller's legal team. she worked on the russian government disinformation probe and on the hillary clinton email investigation. lucky for us,making a better coa better future. remember that. >> jesse: hello everyone i'm jesse watters, along with juan williams, greg gutfeld, martha maccallum and we are here in new york city, this is "the five." another day of unrest in america as massive protests over the death of george floyd continued to sweep across the country. you are looking live in new york city where there are over a dozen demonstrations and washington, d.c., is bracing for a weekend of major protests. president trump is stressing "law & order" while addressing the death of george floyd

earlier t today. >> president trump: we can't let what is happening, happen. equal justice under the law, and that's every encounter with law enforcement regardless of race, color, gender or creed. we also what happened last week. we can't let that happen. >> jesse: ahead of the big protest in d.c. the liberal mayor feuding with president trump over how to keep the peace. trump blessing mayor muriel bowser for trying to kick out the national guard. okay. greg gutfeld. i don't see the problem with a national guard for this reason. when you use the national guard, the national guard seems to work to stop the and violence.

so i don't know why you want to kick out the national guard before the violence has been quelled. >> greg: we are in a weird situation in that we are being told everything is great and peachy but i just heard this phrase yesterday, or was it today, called measure management. that's how the media treats the public. they keep us in the dark and they keep feeding us. anyway, i don't know what's going on. i have a question. we are seeing the stock market go up and we are seeing corporations and businesses go back to work, it seems like the economy is getting back to strength. is that because america is so strong that it can endure a pandemic as well as like insurrections, or, have the riots in the chaos and the insurrections made everybody in power a bit relieved.

and, if the public is at odds with each other, it's not going to be black versus white, and that's the people who hold power. you ride and loot, but the movement goes back at that game. >> greg: that's a great point. if you keep everyone divided. maybe greg mentioned it about the relief of all this, people say that maybe this pandemic will be over pretty soon. what do you think? >> that's maybe one of the sidebar stories that is the most remarkable of all. we just went through or were in the middle of the month of june where you can't have a graduation.

you can't have a high school graduation or college graduati graduation, and in the summer of events, no weddings and no funerals, some of these things are starting to reemerge. but it is striking to me. don't worry about the spike that we saw in the cases today because it is not related to what we have seen over the protests. now he's referring to the incubation period but it's just a lame excuse for why you can't do all of these other things, that at least it's possible to pull off these protests. >> jesse: we saw that governor of michigan gretchen whitmer telling people not out t to go outside of the house, then she sitting right there kneeling next to people for protest. so i guess the rights of assembly depend on what you are

assembling for. what do you think about this national guard controversy. i would welcome the national guard, this is the capital of the united states of america and it belongs to everybody, to keep it in order and the world war ii monument and the national mall because millions of people hav from arod the world every single year come here to see these things. they are shared by everyone in america and shared by the capital of this country and the president has every right to want to protect those things. i went down to d.c. the other day and everything is boarded up. there is graffiti everywhere with the f word and threatening messages to police, and after

one night of peaceful protest the mayor now wants to take up the national guard. let's flash back to what happened last weekend with burning and rioting and the lincoln memorial being defaced count of the world war ii memorial being defaced. the national guard is a response, it's cause and effect. they should stay as long as they need to to make sure that the city that belongs to all americans is protected. >> jesse: i think everyone agrees with that. i do understand i think why some people are against the national guard. my parents, the 60's, kind of a hippie generation when they were out there protesting the war for civil rights, they didn't like the idea of the national guard coming in. there was a lot of violence, a little hangover from people of that era from the 60s and early 70s about having the national guard on the ground. do i have that right, or not? >> juan: i think that's right, jesse. i do think there are some people

that feel that it is escalating the situation and it puts them on the street and makes it look like we are a militarized zone. that's when the defense secretary talked about the city is a vital space. even former defense secretary jim mattis says, it's not that. this is a divisive tactic and people don't like it for that reason. in fact we have several police forces. we have secret service, homeland security. i could go on. they are getting the job done. i think a lot of times what you get is people, especially today. we shouldn't be talking about anything but the reality that for the last few nights, what we've experienced here in america is overwhelmingly peaceful protest. people who have a legitimate

grievance and are peacefully protesting. so i think you have to say, thank god. we don't want looters or rioters, we want to peaceful protest and we are getting that. i think that has to be saluted. no one is calling for the use of violence with the possibility of some of these white supremacists who are posing as antifa online, nobody is calling for violence. i would say that what gets lost here is this. this is bigger than one incident. this is about a mind-set that allows policemen to put his knee on the back of someone's neck for almost 9 minutes until that man is dead. we have up to deal with that mind-set. today would have been breanna taylor's 27th birthday. no one arrested in that case, nothing. that just happens in america. that's what we have trouble in

the streets. >> i agree. the reason it's become more peaceful is because there has been more national guard on the streets because the local police were getting the job done, they were letting them get that job done. coming up, calls to defund at the police and we have calls for the firing of police captain david dorn. after my dvt blood clot, i wondered.

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>> martha: back with this fox news alert, and major developments in the murder of former st. louis police captain david dorn. trace gallagher standing by with the latest for us. >> david dorn was shot while he was inside lee's pawnshop protecting it from looters and police have now released surveillance video from inside that punch out that shows seven people crawling from one to another. if one of them points a gun at the door. it's unclear at what point david dorn was shot but police say he was hit by gunfire inside the shop and was able to make it outside where he collapsed on the sidewalk.

the suspect as you can see were wearing masks about the video is very clear and police are hopeful that somebody will recognize them and if you do, call st. louis police. st. david dorn was police captain and taking a job in a small town police chief. he was also instrumental inventory numerous young people who were interested in pursuing law enforcement. i just want to note that lee's pawnshop is on martin luther king drive. martha? >> martha: indeed it is. a trace, thank you very much. that coming as calls to defund across the country and some leaders in minneapolis taking things further. they want to completely dismantle the police department in favor of a new transformative force that would protect people apparently after the death of george floyd.

the city council holding an emergency meeting and they reached an agreement with the state to ban police from using choke holds along reforms. one of the things that i find disturbing in this david dorn story, we all are sympathetic to george floyd, horrified by what we saw on the video, the evil in the offices fac officers face. but my question is where is a protest across the country? why do we not see a similar outcry for this man who was 38 years on the police force and as trace pointed out, father of five and grandfather to ten people? where is the outcry? >> i think these criminals should be prosecuted with the full force of the law. i don't think you will see any hesitation about that coming not only from the st. louis police

department but from the people of st. louis. black, white, asian and latino. it's a horrific thing to see a man lose his life to the community of criminals. so the police department, and the politician in st. louis don't have a voice, while of course they do and they have the power to exercise it. and the other case you are thinking about people who feel like it has been ignored, and they are taking to the streets in peaceful protest, saying we need to deal with the problem. the problem of course which you properly depicted. just a quick note here, i think that these calls to defund the police, i don't have much respect for it to be brutally honest. to me, for communities need

access policing. and we don't need it looking like the police or military force but we do need a strong policing, sometimes maybe more money for better community policing and better outreach. so to improve the quality of what we had in terms of police and community relations. >> martha: greg, about the idea to defund police department's in some places, you have jeremiah ellison who is the minnesota attorney general attorney general's son saying he wants to dramatically rethink the way that we keep people safe. what do you think? >> he is a fan of antifa, so his open yo, opinion means nothing. if you want to defund the police, go for it. any celebrity who endorses it,

911 should block their number. and in a gun dealer, every gun dealer should never sell a gun to someone who wants to defund the police. what they are doing when purchasing a weapon is getting security for themselves while denying it from you. so i would say, go for it. how do you think gun control as an issue is going to fare after the democratic national convention hit the streets? right? that spectacle of lawlessness effectively did more to end gun control than anything the nra could ever dream of. you are watching more people buy guns than ever before and i include myself in that. so that gets to my last point that i wanted to say at the end of the letter a block. when trump does something considered good, what is the criticism? well he should have done it sooner. he should have shut down travel center. he should have shut down the

city center. well, then my neighborhood wouldn't have been destroyed and decimated and i wouldn't be looking at people trying to rebuild their lives. media could have been done sooner, and how would you feel if your neighborhood was destroyed? you know what, great example, chris palmer. he tweeted, while rioters burned it down low-income housing, he tweeted burn it all down. and then when the rioters got to his gated community, he called the cops. see the shift? everybody can talk about and wax romantic about the movement and how we need systemic change, because it means nothing until they get to your door and then it all goes out the window. >> martha: that's a great

point, i hear a lot of people have never -- who have never owned guns in their lives are not thinking about getting them. this will be good selling point for those in favor of more gun control, it will be a tough argument in its environment. >> you know that gun control issue and the gun rights issue and the role of the second amendment during the pandemic and during the recent spate of riots around the country is one that we don't have fully time to discuss here but it proves again that we have a lesson to learn. when the police are dealing with criminals, you are your only defense and the last offense. so welcome to the club. congratulations, i'm glad you've now joined. but in your question about democrats and the selling to the rest of the country, politically this is a very tough issue for them. there's a poll that came out today that shows that 56% of

registered voters, not just americans but registered voters said that they believe that police have responded to those situations either correctly or not aggressively enough. so this idea that you are going to defund the police which comes from far left people, it's an elitist argument that punishes the most vulnerable people that they claim to be standing up for and that is the bottom line. >> martha: i think for the first time in most of our lives, we got the feeling of not having the potential for any protection out there. then you talk about potentially defunding police departments and making them weaker, and we know that police back down in certain actions which is a dangerous thing. >> jesse: and now that i know that greg is packing i will be much nicer to him the green

room, that's for sure. [laughs] people are slashing the budget, and you think let's pop the champagne, let's start the crime spree. that means less squad cars, less firepower, less drug sniffing dogs, less task forces. we are just going to run wild. because now you are going to arista possessed mor resist arr, and most of the police in the inner-city are not shooting it out with gang bangers like you see on tv every day. you know what they are doing? they are helping the homeless guy who has fallen into the subway. they are breaking up a fight outside of a bar. they are helping a child that has injured themselves. they are responding to a domestic disturbance where someone is getting hurt. they are actually trying to help

people and answering calls from people who are saying please come and help. so everyone go watch live pd this weekend, and you can see they are not there to be mean bad guys, they are there to he help. >> greg: jessie, that's on against your show and my show. >> jesse: dvr! x mark >> martha: straight ahead to come up with this become joe biden's deplorables

>> joe biden insulting even more voters, take a look. >> do we really think this is as good as it can be? i don't think the vast majority of people think that.

probably ten or 15% of people out there are just not very good people but that's not who we are. the vast majority of and we have to bring them together. >> so greg, i'm wondering exactly who he's talking about especially given the events of last week. >> is absolutely a comic genius. the fact that we really need to unite people, except, there are 30 or 40 million people who i just set are not worth having around. i'd like to know who he's talking about, are they all white people or male or female or are they handicapped or our children part of it? this is the same guy who decides how black you are. after putting enough blacks behind bars. the worst part is, he's just an appeaser he's an appeaser to the hard left because he likes being

in power. like i said, this dissent and divisiveness keeps people like joe biden safe in power. he will be in his sunglasses and aviator jacket throwing the first ceremonial brick. >> he needs as many voters as possible, doesn't he? >> i don't know who he's talking about. >> he said they are not good people, he just didn't say who they were. to my mind i think politicians should be pungent. so to my mind it stirs up the opponent's base. if you can imagine that that sound bite is going to be repeated in the trump echo

chamber for days to come and say it's about trump people, but to my mind it's not going to change any votes pro or con. i don't think anyone will necessarily say i will vote that way because of the statement but some people will try to exploit it. >> it's the people who else. >> the bouncers. the bouncer has of the pouncings commenced. >> joe biden is dead wrong. i think it's probably around 20 or 25% of the population. i mean, come on. watch tv. it's much higher. and if trump said he wouldn't be a scandal.

and, i'm not that worried about what joe biden says on a podcast or live stream. and, who's going to be a man of action and, it seems like that's how people -- what they said about him. as we often find with some things that the former vice president says, and i think that has led to some confusion with this comment.

i'm trying to figure out the people were committing violence during the protests, and, there's probably a larger number than that, that might fall into the group of people that you might necessarily want to hang out with, and i guess the people that you would be directing, that would be a good group. i agree with jesse that it doesn't really amount to -- one of the things i think is very clarifying about this moment between the virus and watching the incredible violence and unrest that we seen in the wake of the killing of george floyd, it makes us not sweat the small stuff. i think joe biden is trying to register, and he's trying to say something sticks that matters

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>> juan: it's could this be a 2020 game changer? the economy adding a surprising 2.5 million jobs last month, it's the biggest monthly increase in history with more businesses reopening. president trump and joe biden fighting over who deserves the credit. >> president trump: today is probably, if you think of it the

greatest comeback in american history. >> i was disturbed however to see the president growing this morning, basically hanging on mission accomplished banner out there. there is so much more work to be done. >> president trump: this is a rocket ship, this is far better than a v. we are talking about, will it be a v, u, l? they had no idea. >> it's time for him to step out of his own bunker and take a look around the consequences of his words and his actions. >> juan: and martha, this is good news for america, what can president trump do to keep it going? >> martha: well, i think it's an interesting assessment on the lockdown rebellion. a lot of people fought back and they want to get back to work, they wanted things to reopen every scene in cases all across the country that come up where that happened and those governors were vilified for the

most part, and even in the ozarks where all those kids were partying and everyone was concerned about the proximity that they were in, at least at this point it does not appear to have registered an increase in cases in that area. it is at least t held movement across the country, i do think it's obviously a boon for president trump. he's in a much better mood than he was, and the energy that he lacks when he talks about the economy on the future is a problem for him. that's a little bit about bunker contest, joe biden was in his basement for quite some time, and now he is the guy that is in the bunker. i think things will intensify and i think that the economy, all indications in terms of what we were seeing indicate that it will continue to go up. there will be some jobs that

never come back, so there are more layers to this story that will be tough for the company in certain sectors but, this is obviously really good news, asked surprising news today. >> juan: jesse, does a lot depend on whether there is a second wave? >> jesse: sure, but i'm not worried about a second wave. that was a great montage of the producers just did there because it shows joe biden listlessly reading words off of the teleprompter boards that he not write himself and then the president speaking off-the-cuff with a lot of energy. so it was a dramatics snap back, looks like it's not as big of a recession as i thought it would be in the american people will have the confidence to get back out there, and the american spirit is coming back. but trump is in much different position, and energy and trade

deals, then just shut the switch off, then he switched it back on. so american people are going to come out of the gate really strong. biden is watching it from the sidelines, he can't really do anything except complain. so the good news is bad news and that's not a great position to be in politically. >> juan: it's oh greg, i guess the naysayers would say we still have 13% unemployment, as this to prick of a celebration? >> greg: what obviously if you are a democrat, your route again success because that's what you do. you need people to be miserable in order to win office. i hope this is a glimpse of the rainbow and gets us out of this bizarre because i'm tired of people telling that i look miserable. my wife wants me out of the house. because i will tell you this, workplace behavior does not work

inside the home. i am learning this, that you can't talk to your wife the way you talk to your cohost. you can't say, i'll be right back. or you can't start talking incessantly or give an opinion about her food. i am driving my wife crazy and i'm actually feeling a lot better but, getting all these millions and millions of jobs, it's fantastic. they will not give trump any credit for it but better those jobs go to the looters because they got their ppp, they got their product, puma and panasonic. this economy has to explode and it's a shame that anyone who looted is not going to be part of it because that will be on your resume forever, that you took advantage of people in your neighborhood. >> jesse: round of applause for greg's wife. [laughs] >> juan: while i wanted to volunteer to offer him marital advice but we will have to do that over the weekend.

katie, the stock market soared, kept correct me if i'm wrong but i think it went up like 900 points today or something like that, so it's an amazing performance. people say, it's like the top 10% own 80% of the stock wealth in the country. so jobs is great. so what does it mean when the stock market goes up like this for most americans? >> katie: well first, i was worried about greg when he wrote a self-help book during the lockdown. i'm glad things are getting better for him. [laughs] >> greg: you know, bad timing. [laughs] >> katie: bad timing or good timing. argument was made a lot that mean street and wall street were different. they have 401(k)s and retirement plans that were completely crushed in th the moh of march that have come back.

>> juan: wait to go katie. thank you. straight ahead, cancel culture in america. "new york times" employees in an uproar over and

>> greg: two examples of speech intolerance. apologizing after employees complained about tom cotton's op-ed on sending in the military to stop the riots. wrong opinion. and nfl quarterback or breeze forced to apologize once again after saying he didn't agree with protesting during the national anthem. and you know what i love about this story martha? the media has told us again and again that it would be trump would be the autocrat who would come and take away our rights and try to ban everything but it seems to me from the riots to the speech, every attack on our rights is coming from the left. >> martha: well, you know this

"new york times" story i think is an embarrassment for the newspaper. the idea for this editorial came from the newspaper. they were talking to tom cotton about doing a piece for them and they encouraged him to write something about the insurrection act which has been used by i think seven presidents over the course of history. there is no reason why it shouldn't have been considered when you look at what was happening especially in especially in the cities, washington, d.c., and at the new york city, just the absolute rampaging and ruining and destruction and spray painting that was absolutely intolerable. the question of whether or not you might want to have some military help in that situation is a perfectly logical conversation to have. the president has moved away from that position but, we stand up from senator cotton and that's a place where you are going to see diversity. our own stupid idea was just a rush to judgment.

>> greg: jesse, apologizing to people who already smell blood is pointless. >> jesse: he's already thrown more yards than any quarterback in nfl history, i would tell people to step off. i am a winner and i don't meal for the anthem. so what if you are going to complain? and why don't "the new york times" bosses act like bosses? so like a bunch of 30-year-olds in the newsroom get hysterical over an op-ed? they are lucky they have jobs. did i freak out and walk out of the building when fox hired a karl rove. no, i accepted that we hurled karl rove, and i felt that way

when they put you on "the five." i was like what are we doing? anyway, katie. he makes a good point though. are we in a generation of writers and editors who don't understand the first amendment? >> katie: most people that come out of college these days think that words are actually violent and there's a big difference between leftist and liberals. and these people who want to pull free speech because i feel uncomfortable are leftist, they are not open minded liberals. >> greg: i want to ask a question but at the same time i want to withdraw the question because i would disagree with your opinion. >> juan: okay, all right, what's the question? >> greg: i'm kidding.

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bethune time now for "one more thing." 8:00 p.m. eastern we went down to washington, d.c., with the vice president mike pence. again, do not watch live d-day. watch waters world government

janine and greg and you will have a great night. >> juan: don't ask before 10:00 tomorrow night we have a great show for you, and we have dave rubin, the, he was a read reader. and that saturday, tomorrow night 10:00 p.m. watch it. >> jesse: martha maccallum, you are up next. >> martha: so just a reminder with everything going on tomorrow is the 76th anniversary of the invasion of normandy, d-day. i sat down with tom rice who is 98 years old. he jumped out of a plane on that day on june 6th. there is some video from an amazing trip last year. you will see my interview with him tonight. here is a piece of it. >> this is one of the closures for that jump. i will keep on going. >> martha: keep on going, thank you, tom. >> i'm not a dead man walking.

>> martha: far from it. >> d-day, very difficult time, and seized in the night but for the most part, our rescuers. >> jesse: that was a great jump. juan williams. you are up. >> juan: hey, josie, do you remember that movie "back to the future"? take a look at this video, take a look. here you go, that is a 24-year-old british man who built a hoverboard and a jet that made marty mcfly come to real life. as you can see sam rogers we created a classic movie moment by harv -- hovering next to a delorean. it is unbelievable. he is a test pilot for an aeronautical company. no word yet whether the new technology will take us back to the future. >> jesse: what were people say

again? if you go back to the future, never go to 2020. just get that-year-old together. [laughter] all right, everybody. we will ♪ >> how dare you. how dare you. how dare you. how dare you. how dare you. >> we begin with a fox news alert. today the nation's capital preparing for its largest protest yet over the death of george floyd. griff: overnight demonstrations remaining mostly peaceful in new yorlouisville, new orleans. pete: several cities under the curfew this as calls grow loud tore dismantle and defund police departments across the united states. wow, that is