arthel: this is a fox news alert. tropical storm cristobal ripping towards the louisiana cost, expected to make landfall within the next few hours. winds hitting 50 miles per hour as forecast ors warn of flash flooding and life-threatening storm surge near the mississippi river. we have a live report on the ground in new orleans and the latest forecast in just a few minutes. eric: meanwhile, nationwide protests over the death of george floyd, well, they are continuing today as hundreds of thousands of people are taking to the streets across the country demanding police reform and an end to racism in our nation. yesterday's demonstrations remained mostly peaceful,

although there were some exceptions as emotions on the street still running high. meanwhile, congressional democrats plan to introduce a package of police reforms an capitol hill tomorrow. this is "america's news headquarters," i'm eric shawn. hi, arthel. arthel: hi, eric. and hello, everyone, i'm arthel neville. here in new york city mayor bill de blasio lifting the citywide curfew after another day of peaceful demonstrations, and as the city gears up for phase one of its coronavirus reopening plan which starts tomorrow. fox team coverage on the story. dan springer's live in seattle, and lucas tomlinson has the latest from washington, but we begin with jacqui heinrich. she's live in new york city. jacqui? >> reporter: good afternoon, arthel. we are at one of about 30 demonstrations across the city. this group just walked all the way from sixth avenue, in front of the u.n. building right now.

the crowd is actually blocking some traffic. they've been marching, repeating calls for justice and also to defund the nypd. mayor bill de blasio announced they will be moving some funding to support local youth initiatives and social services. they called it art above deeper reform -- part of deeper reform. he's also call forly e form to -- for reform to state privacy laws. the curfew was lifted this morning a day earlier than originally poland. city leaders were or urging de blasio e to end it saying it was being used to justify arrests, using night sticks and pepper spray on proprotesters. however, last night police did not enforce the curfew, and it was largely peaceful. around 11:00 at night was when the last group dispersed and went home, sharing snacks and water bottles, other times

riling up the group. yesterday police were largely not having any incidents with protesters. however, there was one man who was arrested after making a violent threat on our air suggesting that manhattan's diamond district should be torched if mayor bill blahs owe and governor cuomo didn't meet demands. that demonstrator was identified by the name of us israel burns. he was being interviewed in brooklyn when he said this. >> de blasio e and cuomo come out and talk to us and give the youth some direction. but if they don't, the next stop is the diamond district, and gasoline is awfully cheap. we're giving them a chance to do the right thing. >> reporter: fox news denounced those comments x police later identified him and brought him in for questioning. burns is under arrest and charged. burns is facing three charges, three counts of making

terroristic threats, aggravated harassment and false reporting as a result of what he said. he's currently in police custody and has not been released. more than 2,000 people have been arrested since the protests began over a week ago including 467 people for felonies, 292 officers were injured since these demonstrations began a week ago. the majority of those people were from new york city. so after tonight where there is no curfew in place and the demonstrations were allowed to continue, the hope is that the number of arrests continue to decrease as these demonstrations really turn mostly peaceful with the exception of that person on our air yesterday. arthel? arthel: yeah. and that threat is completely not tolerated. period. thank you, jacqui heinrich. eric? eric: yeah, we condemned what mr. burns said yesterday on our air, and many people on twitter today are saying they are glad

that law enforcement authorities have brought charges against him. meanwhile, we were told about 200,000 people took part in street protests in washington, d.c. yesterday. that number believed to be one of the largest crowds so far in that city for weeks of protests that have been continuing. demonstrations again taking place today, and we're learning new details about internal deliberations within the trump administration about the possible potential deployment of troops as the national guard is being withdrawn. that troop deemployment never happened. lucas tomlinson is live in lafayette park which has been the center of that controversial clearing last week. hi, lucas. >> reporter: hi, eric. well, it's a beautiful day in the nation's capital, and it appears the national guard have already left their positions near the white house on a very peaceful day. as you can see here, the protesters have gathered but much smaller than yesterday. it wasn't so peaceful last week when the army secretary

announced that five national guard troops were hit in the head with bricks next to the white house. there was a scene last monday where president trump allegedly ordered 10,000 active duty soldiers deployed on city streets, a report that the attorney general denied this morning. >> that's completely false. that's completely false. sunday night -- >> the president not demand that? >> -- did not demand that? >> no, he did not. >> reporter: president trump confirming the national guard is pulling out. quote: i have just given an order for our national guard the start the process of withdrawing from washington, d.c. now that everything is under perfect control. they'll be going home but can quickly return if needed. far fewer protesters showed up last night e than anticipated. army secretary ryan mccarthy said today all out of state national guard troops will be withdrawn within the next 48-72 hours. some will begin leaving this afternoon. yesterday thousands took part in

protests across the nation's capital. on "fox news sunday," d.c. mayor said there were no plans to defund the police as some black lives matter leaders had demanded as well as hillary clinton's former spokesman. >> what i know is public safety in washington, d.c. and what our needs are in washington d.c. and we have invested not a penny more and certainly not a penny less than what we need for safe neighborhoods in our communities. >> reporter: but two days after a black lives mural was painted here on 16th street, the words defund the police was added early this morning. eric? eric: yeah, the president harshly criticizing people who are calling for defunding the police. lucas tomlinson out on the streets this afternoon, thank you. arthel? arthel: eric, meanwhile, improvised explosives injuring several police officers in seattle. the clash happening last night with demonstrators. dan springer has more now from

seattle. dan? >> reporter: yeah. hi, arthel. a very small, calm group behind me, maybe a couple dozen, but we're expecting that to grow as the afternoon and evening progresses, because that's what's happened every night for the last nine nights. but you're right, last night's peaceful protest ended in violence here just outside the east precinct in seattle's capitol hills neighborhood. yesterday we saw several separate demonstrations put on by different groups, a big one involved health care workers, some of whom say racism and police brutality are a public health crisis. but then around 7:30 last night the violence broke out, and it was really something. police say people in the crowd started throwing rocks, bottles and incendiary devices. all this while other protesters broke through the fenceline. police responded with pepper spray and blast balls. six officers were injured and two had to be treated at a local hospital. several city council members

attended the protest. one put out her own list of demands today: defund the police, put the money into health care and don't prosecute the protesters. the city has already told police they can't use tear gas to control the crowds. it's a very similar scene in portland where they've had ten straight the nights of protests, mostly peaceful but almost always ending in some violence. last night police photographed some of the items thrown at them; bricks, bottles, ball bearings, motors and batteries. police eventually used stun grenades to push the rioters back, but they gave in on agreeing to remove police officers from all schools. mayor ted wheeler tweeted today, quote: leaders must listen and respond to the community, we must disrupt the patterns of racism and unjustice. i am -- injustice. i am pulling police officers from schools. and the same action was taken in minneapolis.

now, there are people who oppose that. a lot of parents have said e that school safety will suffer by having these measures in place. right now portland's pulling their police officer, no word yet on seattle doing the same thing. but we are going to see probably more protests tonight here outside the east precinct. back to you, arthel. arthel: dan springer, thank you. eric? eric: well, arthel, right now watching closely as tropical storm cristobal pushes toward the gulf coast. everyone living in the path of the storm has been told to take all necessary precautions. you've been through this drill before. you have a few more hours before the storm expected to make landfall. jonathan hunt on the ground live in new orleans where the mississippi could potentially crest, and there's always the fear of flooding. hi, jonathan. >> reporter: hey, eric. the rain has been coming down for more than 12 hours now, pretty consistently. we're in something of a pause at this moment, but the rain is expected to be coupled with the

storm surge that will come along with high tide later tonight. and you talk about the mighty mississippi, there is the right behind me there, and we're expecting the eye of the storm to pretty much come up from the louisiana coastline right across very close to new orleans later. but the residents, as you say, of this city know what to do, they've been out boarding up their properties, they've been putting sandbags out, are prepared for anything. and a lot of them say in this city you just have to do it. it's all about getting ready. listen here. >> i'm going to stay here and be, when it's over, go about my normal duties. >> water, food supplies and medicine and try to provide my animals with everything that they need. >> i've been worried about my general with rater. generator. >> reporter: and governor john

bel edwards issued a warning on twitter today asking everybody to stay, as he put it, weather aware throughout the day. even if we get moment like this where the rain has eased. also associated with this storm, eric, is the possibility of tornadoes. and one, again, associated with cristobal actually hit in the orlando area yesterday. thankfully, no serious injures associated with that. and as you come back to us live here in new orleans, iconic jackson square, i can tell you that the national guard is also on standby. they have 88 high-water vehicles available and 35 boats should flood rescues become necessary. so -- and it's not just here in new orleans, obviously, as well, eric. this is a large storm stretching right along the coast of mississippi, alabama, the florida panhandle. all of those areas under threat from flooding and what may be

with most dangerous is if this storm stalls. as we well know, if it slows down, as it sits over the coastal areas, then the threats from flooding becomes much greater. is so while we're in a little wit of a lull -- bit of a lulling now, eric, nobody is letting down their guard. eric: that's for sure. is glad they're prepared. arthel? arthel: for more on where cristobal is heading next, we're going to go to meteorologist adam klotz. adam, what can you tell us? >> reporter: hey there, arthel. the storm at this point still currently sitting about 20 or 30 miles just south of the louisiana coast. it's moving at a 5 miles an hour, so it'll be making landfall before too much longer, but this is a large storm. the story really isn't where the center of the storm is. let's take a look at the graphic, bringing you in right where this storm currently sits, moving to the north at 5 miles an hour. this isn't a well-defined storm. the larger story is what's

happening hundreds and hundreds of miles away from this very large system we're currently seeing. those are the wind speeds currently across this area, mostly in the 20-30 mile-an-hour range, we saw wind gusts up to 45 miles an hour in gulfport, the winds have been locked in at 50-60 miles an hour at times. this is a large storm system, continuing to see heavy rain from the florida big bend stretching up into southern georgia, that run all the way along the gulf coast from the florida panhandle through alabama, mississippi and into the new orleans area. we're going to continue to see the heaviest rain on the eastern side of this storm, that's typically where you see the worst weather, where the tornadoes could spit up, small tornadoes if we see anything in that area. the motion of this going forward is going to be lifting to the north over the next several hours. we're going to be talking about flooding running all the way up the mississippi river as this rain just continues to fall over

the next couple of hours, arthel. again, this is something that's happening to the new orleans area, but it's a large system. people across the southeast are going to need to watch this running all the way up into the plains from now over the next couple of days, arthel. arthel: yeah. trust me, they're watching. adam klotz, thank you so much. eric: new details about china's response to coronavirus. one u.s. senator accuses beijing of trying to hamper the search for a vaccine. what about that? they gave it to us and now they want to cure it? we'll be right back with the latest on that. rdinary times, and we want to thank the extraordinary people in the healthcare community, working to care for all of us. at novartis, we promise to do our part. as always, we're doing everything we can to help keep cosentyx accessible and affordable. if you have any questions at all, call us, email us, visit us online.

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thereabouts. >> that's right. eric: jim, what, they gave it to us, right? now they're trying to keep the information to cure it and are playing more silly games? what are they up to? >> well, let's not get too far ahead of ourselves, eric. and, by the way, it's good to see you. your hair looks better than my hair, i've done the best i can. [laughter] it's good to see you. so they put out a report that says they did a perfect job. well, they didn't. you'll remember that courageous young medical doctor in wuhan warned the local and national officials that something was happening, and he was arrested and then, unfortunately, eye onically -- ironically, later died of the virus. so they did not respond well though they said they did a great job. but i don't think it's a chinese views. the virus can pop up anywhere, and once it pops up, it can go anywhere. so this is a problem -- the scientific community is already on this. scientists from around the world are cooperating, working on a

vaccine. medical researchers have been on this from day one. the governments, i hope, do not play games. our best way to get a vaccine is through scientists cooperating, mar martialing all those resources and sharing it with everyone. that is the only legitimate path forward, and i certainly hope no one would interfere with that. eric: well, you know, some like senator rick scott are accusing the chinese of not doing that. here's what he said in an interview with the bbc saying, quote: china does not want u.s. and england and europe to do it first. they've decided to be an adversary to america and democracies around the world. do you think that's the case, or do you think they have now seen the light and have got, you know, they're going to come up and cooperate? i mean, there are partnerships, business partnerships with chinese scientists, but it's not enough of to cure this and to make sure that they don't do this again. >> well, i think there are two issues here. you know, one the government

trying to inhibit another government from getting a vaccine, somehow trying to muck things up. if that's true, that's a super serious charge. i hope it's not true. but when asked for evidence behind this accusation, the senator said he didn't, he thinks he heard it in an intelligence briefing. now, he's not on an intelligence committee, and he didn't have anything else to back it up. so i would be cautious about runaway accusations during a time of a pandemic. you know, number one. but, you know, china has to be more transparent. our best way to beat this is if people present their data as soon as they get it, share it with everyone, that's the scientific method, atlas what is going to get us -- that is what is going to get us through this. and countries that try to play games, they're going to be losers. the world together is going to come up with a advantage -- vaccine faster than any one country. erin e eric can we trust them? >> you know, i think the chinese

scientists, some of them have been quite good, and i think we can trust some people and not others. but, you know, at the end of the day, i think the proof of the pudding is in the eating. and if we all work together, medical researchers from all around the world and we come up with a vaccine, we'll know whether it works or not. we'll test it, we'll know it, we'll apply it, and the proof will be can we protect people from this human threat that affects all of us regardless of where we live, regardless of our party and regardless of state boundary. this is about beating the virus, and we're much more likely to be successful if we do it together. and if countries play games, they should be condemned and pay a price for that. eric: and finally, we usually talk about terrorist, you're a specialist at mit, what failed? you've got the world health organization, they apparently were lied to. you had the centers for disease control, you have this whole global infrastructure to try and stop pandemics before they

start, and they've been successful before. you know, why did this one fail, how do we prevent it from happening again, if that's even possible? >> yeah, great question, eric. we can always do better. i think the first thing is we don't know the answer because we're doing it in the minute, you know, we haven't had a time for reflection and evaluation. so job one is to assess. and i'm glad the world health organization has agreed to do a fact-finding study on the origins of it. and each government has to look critically at how they've handled out. everyone's going to have made mistakes, everyone's going to have gotten some things right, and we've got to learn because it may be coming back. it could. i'm not predicting it, but it's a possibility that it will returnment and so -- return. so we not only have to deal with consequences today, but we better follow your question, eric, we better answer that question so we get ready for round two if there is a round two. eric: yeah. we can't let our guard down. probably will be some type of

round two with the influenza and flu virus coming by. jim walsh up in massachusetts, good to see you. >> good to see you, my e friend. take care. arthel: erik, thank you. well, there is an absolute tragic incident in the area of santa cruz, california. a sheriff's deputy killed and two other members of law enforcement wounded after being ambushed with gun tour and, employees is -- gunfire. last night. christina coleman is live in santa monica with the latest. >> reporter: hi, arthel. well, the fbi is now investigating this deadly attack. deputies say that the suspect had guns and explosives on him during this ambush yesterday. flags will be flown at half staff today in the state capitol in honor of 38-year-old santa cruz county sheriff's sergeant damon gutswiller. he was killed in this attack. the government called the sergeant a hero. he had been with the sheriff's

office since 2006. hedescribed as an officer who dedicated his life to protecting the community. he leaves behind his expecting wife and a young child. >> somebody who truly loves his job are, he wants to help people. that's what damon was. he was a good man. >> reporter: this attack on deputies took place after a 911 caller reported seeing a us pushes -- suspicious van with guns and bomb making materials inside. deputies found the van at a home and were then ambushed with gunfire and explosives. the sergeant was shot and pronouncedded dead at the hospital, and a second deputy was injured in the attack. >> another deputy was either shot or struck with shrapnel from the bomb. he was also struck by a car that

the suspect drove out of the driveway. >> reporter: the suspect has been identified as active duty staff sergeant steven careo assigned to the military police unit at travis air force base. deputies say they found hum yesterday after he attempted a carjacking. this was a shootout during the arrest, and he was shot and suffered non-life threatening issue, and an officer was reportedly shot in the hand. the motive for the attack is under investigation, and he was arrested for murder and the county sheriff says careo will face many felony charges because of all of this, and the d.a.'s office is investigating. arthel? arthel: heart-wrenching and horrible. christina coleman in santa monica, thank you. eric: yeah, arthel, another tragic reminder of the courage and professionalism of our police and those who end up making the ultimate sacrifice protecting us. our country's law enforcement

officers deserve a thanks really. well, coming up, you know, there are going to be some changes to the paycheck protection program as congress attempts to rectify some of the concerns that small businesses -- [inaudible] gene marx is here to explain what we all can do, straight ahead with great advice. ♪ ♪ s or total?... eh, not enough fiber... chocolate would be good... snacking should be sweet and simple. the delicious taste of glucerna gives you the sweetness you crave while helping you manage your blood sugar. with nutrients to help support immune health.

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the time period to use those funds. joining me now, gene marx, cpa with the marx group and a small business consultant. always good to have you, let's walk -- >> bring it on, arthel. [laughter] arthel: i love it, gene. all right, well, the loans through the paycheck protection program were always forgivable, but now instead of two months to spend the money or forfeit full forgiveness, business owners now are six months to cover payroll and other expenses, so this is great news. how would you say small businesses can take advantage, owners can take advantage of this? enter firstly, arthel, there's still $50 billion in the fund, so a lot of small business owners were holding back on borrowing this money or participating in the program because they were afraid that they wouldn't have enough time to bring their people back and generate those expenses and, therefore, get forgiveness. but now, you know, now we've got

six months to pay forgivable expenses which means if you had any hesitation as to participating in this program, you really shouldn't be. i'm sure you can generate enough expenses in six months to be eligible for the loan and for forgiveness as well. so go for it. arthel: and then in the original ppp model, you had until june 30th to retain or rehire a certain number of your employees. now, that has been extended to the end of the year. so why is this -- >> yeah, so when businesses were just starting out, the big rule with the paycheck protection program, arthel, is they want small business to rehire employees. so there was a period that you start off a period right before you got your loan, and then you had really just eight weeks, the term of the loan, to bring all those employees back. that wasn't enough time for a lot of small business owners. that has now changed. you now have up until december

31st to restore your head count and your compensation that you were paying from before the whole pandemic happened. so it gives you a lot of time to do that. and then you've got ten months a after your with loan ends where you can actually apply for forgiveness. so you've got plenty of time to wait, you've got time to have those expenses, bring the employees back by the end of the year, and then you can apply for forgiveness and, hopefully, get the whole loan forgiven at that time. that's also great news. arthel: that's what i was going to ask, if you had to apply. i understand, gene, that whatever portion of your ppp loan that is not forgiven, you now have five years to pay it back. is that so? >> that's right. so it used to be two years, now it's five years. and, arthel, the interest rate is 1%. which effectively means it's like free money, almost a grant from the government. some business owners are concerned that even if they have nonforgivable expenses and they

can't pay it off in five years, what to they do about that? because these loans are being given by financial lenders, banks and other sbas, small business administration members, many of the bankers i've spoken to are quite happy to say, listen, after that five-year period, i'm sure we can refinance this loan is if it's something you do have the ability to pay back. more time at a very low interest rate, but i know the banking community's interested in making sure small business owners are able to pay back the loan even beyond that. arthel: that's good too. so this makes the ppp more user-friendly. >> yeah. arthel: but will this make ppp more accessible and easier to apply for? i know you said e the government has the money there, and the money's waiting for the business owners to apply for it. but is accessing that money easier? >> you know, arthel, we've had this conversation before. because the ppp itself, it's still complex. out still takes your time and

your diligence. you have to work with a banker, you have to fill out the applications, you have to supply the documentation and go through the calculations to apply. so although there is still -- that hasn't changed at all. we've been encouraging our clientses and if you're running a small business, this is a good exercise to go through. you can do it if you're working with a good banker. they can walk you through that process. and, honestly, if you never had a relationship with a banker before or you've never applied for a loan before, this is just a great opportunity to begin that relationship and truly understand the numbers behind your business during the application process. so not easiered to do, but i'm putting it on my e clients and other small business owners, you can do it. there's still $50 billion out this to apply for. work with your banker and go true the process. -- through the process. you can do it. arthel: good, good. anything else we left out? got 30 seconds left. >> oh, just the only thing i just also wanted to mention is that you can still apply for

other forms of financing if you need to do that. and there are some from the state and there are also some from the federal government. the economic injury disaster loan program, it's very slow right now and there's been a lot of bottlenecks, but there's money available there for very low cost loans for you as well. hopefully, as we're now recovering and getting back into action again, arthel, hopefully all this will get us through the summer, and hopefully good things will happen for small businesses in the fall. i'm optimistic. arthel: i'm hopeful myself, and i really know they need it. with we need -- the economy needs small businesses. we have to have our mom and pop stores. okay. well, gene marks, you're the man. thank you very much, as always, gene. see you next time. >> thanks, arthel. take care. arthel: take care. all right. eric. eric: yeah, explains it so you can understand it. that's just terrific. well, congressional democrats are responding to the nationwide protests. tomorrow the congressional black caucus will unveil a new bill on

police reforms, legislation that has been prompted by the death of george floyd. chad pergram explains. >> reporter: it's a sweeping bill written exclusively by democrats. it aims to bolster accountability, eliminate racial profiling and fundamentally alter some approaches by police. here's what the bill does. it makes it easier to take officers to both is civil and criminal court. it lowers the bar for what's called qualified immunity which often shields police from lawsuits. it also forms a database to track some troubled officers who bounce from department to department. >> with the legislation, with accountability and with the transparency and the emphasis on training, we believe that we'll be able to address those type of situations. it's time for police culture in many departments to change, and we believe that the legislation will make a major step forward in that direction. >> reporter: appearing on cbs, attorney general bill barr

worried that too many regulations would undercut police, and barr asserted most police aren't racist. george floyd's brother will testify at a house hearing wednesday about police abuse. there's also concern about deploying the military to quash protests on american streets. >> we have a military to fight our enemies, not our own people. and our military should never be called to fight our own people as enemies of the state. and that, quite frankly for me, really tipped it over. > reporter: house democrats want esper and millie to explain their efforts to ban the pentagon from is sending equipment to police. chad pergram, fox news. arthel: some small businesses hit with a double whammy, first by the shutdown, then by looting. is so how can mom and pop stores

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story for most policyholders and business owners because, you know, after the covid shutdown, they were so used to the insurance industry saying there's no coverage whatsoever for that, there's a happy story here. riots are directly covered under almost all property insurance policies. they should be able to collect for those x they should be able to collect for their lost income. and so i think this is going to be a much better story than what we've been hearing from the insurance industry in the past. eric: so you're saying it's easy for flo to come over with a check, a little gecko to cough up some dough for you? [laughter] >> i wish it was always that ease i, and it's not. the devil's in the small print with insurance policies. let's face it, nobody reads their insurance policy until the loss happens and then going through it and finding out exactly what you have to do, obviously letting your agent know so the adjustor can get out there. but, you know, for businesses they're going to be going new their inventory, their records,

they're going to be getting their accountants involved to make certain that the sales forecast -- and especially now that most of the businesses are up and running or at least up and partially running, they expect to get better, so long as the insurance companies don't get too stingy, i think we're going to see a lot of business owners getting paid not just for their property damage, but also for their business income as well. eric: so you can get paid for loss lost business income for this period? >> yes, they can. and not just for those businesses that were damaged as a result of the looting, the theft, the vandalism, the arson that goes on. obviously, those are paid for. but there are also some businesses who are just on the periphery that they never got damage, but there were civil authority orders, curfews that were shutting down the businesses. it's possible that depending upon the exact policy, even those businesses who didn't suffer the actual property damage might get under the civil

authority clause lost incomes because they were forced to shut down as a result of these curfews. again, the devil's in the details, and what everybody should do is go back and read through the details of their insurance policy. you'll find there's a lot of benefits such as even the protection of your property might be covered under your insurance policy. eric: like having a security guard. i mean, who knew that, you know, they'd put a curfew down? you know, the restaurants here in new york city, a lot were doing takeout, but who knew that maybe you could get reimbursed for that from insurance. >> well, you know, i mean, some of those restaurants and the other businesses that were shut down and were just barely opening up, and now all of a sudden they're damaged from the looting, i'd say, boy, if they didn't have bad luck, they wouldn't have any luck at all. and the truth of the matter is the insurance product is bought to provide benefits when you do have damage, something that that happens that's out of the ordinary, and certainly riots

are directly contemplated by the insurance industry and covered by that. so when people go back and they're starting back into business just as they were doing there, all of a sudden get hit again, you know, that's what the product's there for. and frankly, the insurance industry should be stepping up, giving those owners, you know, money right away to they can get cleaned up, get back in business as soon as they can, keep their employees hired. because it also pays not just the lost income, but the continuing expenses that you would, you know, have that you need to get the business up and operating again. eric yeah. well, you know, hopefully they'll get through this. as your book behind you says "pay up," this really is is something. chip, good to see you. >> eric, thanks a lot. eric: of course. arthel? arthel: well, eric, as police hunt for the suspects who killed a retired st. louis police captain, that captain's family is warning of scammers trying to profit from their tragedy. this story is next.

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looters. jasmine from our st. louis affiliate ktvi explains. >> shameful, despicable. who would actually put a man dying on the cover of a gofundme page? >> reporter: that is the question brian powell wants answered. someone had the nerve to post a go fund maine page to profit off the name of a murder victim, his father, david dohrn. dohrn was a retired police captain in st. louis. he was culled monday night while trying to protect this pawnshop from looters. as if the tragedy weren't painful enough, this page and others began popping up. >> my stepmom, she was like all these people saying go fund maine pages, and, jasmine, it was one page that was just really despicable. it had my father laying down in the street dying. all the other pages at least had him in his police uniform and everything. but who would even think about doing that? >> reporter: we don't know,

but we do know st. louis police are getting the word out that these accounts are bogus. >> we are so happy that they're work to get those false pages taken down. >> reporter: in a statement the, gofundme tellings us, in this case our team has reached out to the local police department. all the money is safe and will be transferred to and accessed by the family. if the family would like to refund these donors, we will immediately process those refunds. the family are accept donations to two organizations, crimestop orers and backstoppers. backstoppers announced wednesday that it was pledging to assist the dorn family. >> he loved backstoppers, and he did whatever it took to support the group. it made me feel so good. they do have our back. >> reporter: the dorn family says it is grateful for the outpouring of support it's gotten from the community, and it's hoping that those who do want to help do it in the right way. >> we just want his platform to

be utilized. it's a man who loved the community, who reached out to the community and who gave his life protecting and serving the community. so, yeah, those fake pages, we just try to get the word out, do not support those fake pages. >> reporter: fox 2 news. arthel: and as jasmine reported, the dorn family is requesting donations be made to the backstoppers or the st. louis regional crimestoppers. the backstoppers have pledged $50,000 to dorn's family, and crimestoppers is offering a $40,000 e ward for information -- reward for information leading to an arrest in the death of captain dorn. to support those groups, you can visit their web sites, backstoppers.org and stlrcs.org. what is wrong with people? we'll be right back.

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i'm eric shawn. arthel. arthel: hi, eric. i'm arthel neville. president trump tweeted the national guard will leave washington, d.c. less than 24 hours after the capital saw its largest demonstration yet over the death of mr. george floyd who died in minneapolis, police custody, after an officer kept a neon his neck for nearly nine minutes. the mayor of d.c., muriel bowser, says president trump's rhetoric combined with federal law enforcement's response to protests encouraged more people to hit the streets. >> we've had about a week of demonstrations in washington, d.c., people gathered at various locations and walked down to black lives matter plaza where you saw a lot of people coming together, healing, organizing, strategizing and thinking about how to make real the frustrations that they brought with them to these

demonstrations. arthel: meanwhile, mike tobin is live in minneapolis where protests have remained largely peaceful over the past several days. mike. >> reporter: they have, arthel. right now we have people gathering in a park, as the dialogue has shifted away from reforming police to discussions about defunding or disbanding the police. that was largely the focus of a major demonstration downtown last night where people gathered and marched by the thousands. they went to the mayor's residence, they were joined by minneapolis mayor jacob frey. but it didn't go very well for the mayor when an organizer of the march got him to commit to -- tried to get him to commit to disbanding the police. when he refused, the demonstrators ran him off. >> we have a yes or no question for you. yes or no, will you commit to defunding minneapolis police department. we don't want no more police.

we don't want people with guns going around in our communities, shooting us down. you have an answer, it is a yes or a no. it is a yes or a no. will you defund the minneapolis police department? >> reporter: frey said only that he doesn't support the complete abolition of the employment. the president of the minneapolis city council and jeremiah ellison, the son of the lead prosecutor in the floyd case, have both been outspoken particularly over social media about disbanding the police. they are expected here today. and what we're told by event organizers, there will be a major announcement as relates to police reform. arthel. arthel: mike tobin, thank you very much. eric. eric: arthel, here in the big apple as many protesters broke curfew last night, the majority of demonstrations we saw ended

peacefully. mayor bill de blasio today lifted the curfew. it was supposed to go into effect tonight at 8:00 p.m. but now will not, as the city prepares for phase one of the reopen phase one tomorrow from the coronavirus pandemic. jacqui heinrich is live with details. >> reporter: this is one of 30 demonstrations happening around the city. there are a couple hundred people marching in the street. there seems to be really no formal organization. unlike in d.c. where there is a stage for speakers, here in new york groups seem to be making plans on social media about where to meet up and then marching through the streets, sometimes converging with another crowd. the calls for justice are growing louder including calls to defund the police. mayor bill de blasio announced they've been moving funding from the nypd to support local youth initiatives and social services, called it part of deeper reform to address disparities in the city. de blasio called for a -- the

curfew was lifted today, a day earlier than originally planned. city leaders and community activists urged de blasio to end it, saying it was being used by police to justify arrests and causing unnecessary interaction was the criminal justice system. de blasio said the curfew was necessary to prevent protests from spiraling out of control, to looting and riots that we saw earlier this week and put in force to avoid deploying the national guard. de blasio upon lifting the curfew said he hopes it's the last time we need a curfew in new york city. yesterday police did not enforce the curfew, crowds continued marching through the streets well after 8:00 p.m. many of them chanting "f" your curfew. it was a largely peaceful night. the crowds disbursed around 11:00. this is happening as new york city prepares to reopen tomorrow

for phase one, which includes manufacturing and construction. city and state officials are very concerned that the virus will be spreading considering the number of protesters demonstrating in the streets for days now. the governor, andrew cuomo, practically begging protesters to get tested, saying they're planning on opening 15 sites dedicated to protesters, aiming to do 35,000 tests a day to track the virus for a spike. >> but please get a test. my opinion, not a fact, i would act as if you were exposed and i would tell people who i'm interacting with, assume i am positive for the virus. because you could be infecting other people. but please get that test. >> reporter: demonstrations haven't all been peaceful. yesterday, nypd reportedly said it's been looking at messaging from al-qaida and the arabian

peninsula, isis, political extreme itextremists, includinge extremists and neo-nazi. all of the groups seem to be unified in a goal of opportunity is particular propaganda to accelerate conflict and incite violence. since the demonstrations began, we've had more than 2,000 arrests in the city, a number of them for violating curfew but 600 -- excuse me, 467 of those arrests were for felonies. so this group is largely peaceful. they've been marching through the streets, at times blocking traffic. police have been allowing them to go wherever they want, not really holding them off from even areas and corridors that we saw yesterday where police tried at times to corral them when we were in brooklyn, keep them from crossing bridges. the groups have been kneeling at times, chanting and they're continuing throughout the day. eric and arthel. eric: jacqui, quite a scene out there, loud but hopefully

continue to be peaceful. an update now on the protester that jacqui interviewed yesterday, made apparent threats, basically suggesting that manhattan's diamond district, west 47th street, well, it basically should be torched if bill de blasio and andrew cuomo did not meet the demonstrators demands. you may recall the protesters identified by police as israel burns, goes by the name of ace burns. here's what he said. >> hoping de blasio and cuomo come out and talk to us and give the youth some direction but if they don't the next stop is the diamond district and gasoline, thanks to trump, is awfully cheap. we're giving them a chance right now to do the right thing. eric: well, fox news denounced and condemned those comments by mr. burns, the police then later on arrested him. burns is now facing three charges of making terrorist

threats, aggravated harassment and false reporting as a result of what he said. he is currently in police custody and has not yet been released. arthel. arthel: despicable. protesters marching in the name of george floyd in major cities around the world, taking a live look at london where police are lined up near the embassy, the rallies have been relatively calm but some arrests were made last night when things got out-of-hand. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot is live in london with more. greg. >> reporter: hi, arthel. yeah, this is the fourth day of black lives matter protests. just in the past week here in london, yes, we're tracking tonight some more skirmishes, police and protesters and also the police throughout this day have been defending from protesters an already well-fortified u.s. embassy

building just south of the river thames. several thousands have come out today, marking the death of george floyd, showing solidarity with americans and pointing to instances of police brutality in the u.k. today's protests began at the embassy and stayed here throughout the day. some groups marched across the river to the center of british government, that's where they also are right now, gathered late in the day. they're massing in front of government buildings like the 10 downing street office and residents of u.k. prime minister boris johnson. we've seen skirmishes, police seem to be holding their ground. here's what we heard from some of the protesters earlier today. >> you just have to support people who need the support right now, you know. i would hope that if i was in this position that someone would be out there marching for my lives. >> we can make a difference, we make a difference by coming together in numbers, in unity in numbers. >> it's about democracy, to

exercise the freedom to protest. so we have to do this. >> reporter: of course, all of this, arthel, is in defiance of u.k. bans due the covid-19 pandemic here too against public gatherings which people pretty much defied that they're wearing masks but very little social distancing, as i suppose suppose states as well. people here making their priorities, this issue over health risks. back to you, arthel. arthel: greg palkot in long donning. london. thanks, greg. eric: besides london, the protests are continuing to spread around the globe. thousands taking to the streets in a global display of solidarity for the black lives matter movement. tracee carrasco joins utray yin. >> reporter: protests continued around the world in sport of the american led black lives matter movement. in rome, thousands gathered

today, calling for accountability in the death of george floyd, protesters held signs that said i can't breathe and no freedom until we are equal. most wore masks and stayed socially distanced due to the coronavirus outbreak as they held their fists in the air. neighboring france yesterday, similar scenes unfolded in front of the u.s. embassy in paris. france's foreign minister commented on the u.s. unrest this month, calling violence against protesters and journalists, quote, unacceptable. spain saw demonstrations outside its embassy in madrid earlier today. participants held signs that said i'm black, so what. many protesters with the signs are feeling the same pain that those in the united states are experiencing. >> what brought me here is, first, when i saw just the video, i was feeling a little faint and i was like i have to do something, you know. and then my mom and the group organized this and i said i have

to come here. i have to fight for my rights, i have to fight for my people. >> reporter: from hong kong to thailand to france to australia, we saw similar acts of solidarity, people voicing their own experiences with police, hoping these protests can spark some lasting change about serious systematic issues. eric. eric: all right, trey. thank you. arthel. arthel: well, eric, the gulf coast is bracing for tropical storm cristobal. it is expected to make landfall in louisiana this evening, bringing the threat of flooding, tornadoes and storm surges. the storm already claiming the lives of two brothers who were caught in a ripcurrent on friday. jonathan hunt is in new orleans with the latest. jonathan. >> reporter: arthel, as we overlook new orleans' i consistentic jackson square, the bands of rain have been coming through here for some 24 hours

now. we're in something of a lull but we're still expecting the eye of the storm to hit coastal louisiana in a few hours. this city knows all too tragically well what the slow-moving rainstorms can bring as a result. so everybody here is prepared for flooding, they have been warned about flooding and they are doing what they can to mitigate the worst effects of that potential flooding. listen here. >> coming out three and-a-half foot, the tidal surge is going to come up and this is a bad area for flooding. >> we come together as a family, we are all from down here, we're like brothers. >> as the storm moves on we ride along and check the spots where we put sandbags and barricades and we'll reinforce them.

>> reporter: louisiana governor john bell edwards tweeted today, appealing to the people of his state to remain what he called weather aware, as cristobal moves across louisiana. mississippi coastline being hit hard, through the florida panhandle and also associated with this storm system is the danger of tornadoes. one in fact that was indeed caused by cristobal hit in the orlando area last night. fortunately, no serious injuries. the national guard as you look across the mississippi there is on standby in new orleans and throughout southern louisiana, arthel. they have 88 high water vehicles available and 35 boats for any flood rescues, should they become necessary. arthel. arthel: let's hope they don't become necessary. but i'm glad they're prepared. jonathan hunt, thank you very much. yeah. eric. eric: yeah, arthel.

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eric: family and friends of george floyd will say their final good-byes this week after the two memorial services were held in minneapolis and raeford, north carolina. floyd's body arrived in houston this morning, that is where a public viewing will be held tomorrow. the final funeral services and burial will take place at afternoon invitation only memorial on tuesday. former vice president joe biden, he is set to meet privately with the floyd family tomorrow in houston to offer condolences. he'll do that in person. we're told he taped a tribute that will be played at the memorial. we will be reporting on and broadcasting the george floyd memorial service in its entirety tomorrow, that starts at 1:00 p.m. eastern in the afternoon, right here on the fox news channel.

arthel. arthel: well, eric, meanwhile it looks like the three former minneapolis police officers who were also criminally charged in the death of mr. george floyd could break rank with derek chauvin after prosecutors upgraded one of the charges against him to second degree murder. two of the officers were rookies with just days on the force. their lawyers saying they tried to intervene. richard st. paul is a defense attorney, a member of the republican lawyers association, and eric little, a defense attorney, a former assistant u.s. attorney and now a partner at burr and foreman llp. the two rookies a few days on the job, their lawyer's claim thing tried to intervene. how does this help their case and how does it hurt the case of derek chauvin, especially since chauvin was their training officer. >> i think the training officer piece is one of the things they'll rely on, they did that in the preliminary hearing.

for those officers who weren't the ones that physically caused the death, this sort of splitting of officers is what you see in a normal civil case, you have a murder, people that were there and are charged and cooperate. it makes the case for chauvin better for the prosecution if the other folks decide to participate. they have different levels of culculpableity and you'll see tt if they take a plea or cooperate. arthel: what about officer tau. he had 10 years on the force. his lawyer says he is cooperating. what information could he provide and what's their defense. >> so you look at the attorney general ellison who upgraded the charges, put more meat on the bone. the charges of second degree murder carry up to a 40 year sentence. this was done because, one, it does not require intent. murder in the first degree requires intent, murder in the second degree does not require intent. here, the prosecution can try to

move the case forward t max they can charge and hopefully get a conviction because they don't to prove intent here. with the other police officers, there were two police officers who were already on mr. floyd when they heard he could not breathe. they can also be charged with aiding and abetting. once they heard mr. floyd say he cannot breathe and they took no action, regardless of whether chauvin was the training officer or not, they participated in helping to terminate mr. floyd. the other officer that was there, that had 10 years experience, did nothing at all, did not render any aid. officers have a duty to uphold the law. they cannot break the law and when mr. floyd was on the floor, he was not a threat, and mr. chauvin still had his knee in his neck and the other officers were on him and nobody did anything, they were aiding in the termination of mr. floyd. and that's what i believe the

state attorney general is thinking, that they can prove to a jury. arthel: alex, what could these officers, these cooperating officers tell prosecutors that could prompt them to further upgrade charges against derek chauvin to first degree murder? >> one of the things we don't know, we have this tape and the tape is horrific, shows the death of george floyd at the hands of officer chauvin. we don't know what was said afterwards. we don't know how he responded. i think if the other officers have interesting information about what chauvin said happened, what his thought process was, it could be used to defeat his defense. he's going to -- at this point, he knows there's a video, he can't contradict that video. anything else that he's going to try to do, i think to defend himself so if the other officers say that's not true, two minutes after this happened he said x, y, z, that's the sort of information prosecutors i think will find helpful from the other officers on the scene. arthel: richard, because the other three officers are cooperating, does that mean they

could get off with serving no jail time? and should chauvin be kept on suicide watch? >> yeah, i think ultimately like any prosecutor, most cases are pled out. and like any prosecutor, you want to bring forth the strongest charges to try to get a plea deal. and that is having the three officers testify against chauvin, if necessary, and saying to his defense attorney, i have three officers who are willing to testify that mr. chauvin meant to kill him, he said something that gave us the thought that he intentionally wanted to hurt him. there are missing facts here. but you don't want three officers to testify against your client if you're a defense attorney. you're likely going to take a plea deal. i don't think any of the officers get off without any jail time in this situation. and to that thought, they shouldn't because they -- again, we entrust the police officers to enforce the law and not break it.

arthel: well, you know, we'll keep watching. we have to leave the discussion there. it is worth noting especially given the high tension that's in the air that we all recognize that there are many good police officers out there who are trying to do what it is they took an oath to do, which is to protect the communities in which they serve. so we thank them for keeping it right. richard st. paul and alex little, we thank you for this legal discussion. take care. >> thank you. >> thank you. arthel: eric. eric: arthel, a new report says some prominent republicans are on the fence, even have jumped over it on whether or not to support president trump for re-election in november. the trump campaign is responding to this and whether it will have any type of impact. ♪ ♪

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arthel: the new york times dropping a bomb shell of an article, suggesting prominent republicans like former president george w bush and utah senator mitt romney are not going to support president trump for re-election in november. the trump campaign is now firing back against those claims. mark meredith is live outside the white house with the full story. mark. >> reporter: arthel, president trump prides himself as someone who shakes things up but it appears three years into his presidency he has not won the old of guard of the republican party over. the new york times reporting that former president george w bush does not plan to support the president's re-election campaign. now, we should say, bush has not released any campaign statement himself and the times does not name their source. you may remember then candidate trump defeated jeb bush in the 2016 gop primaries. meantime, colin powell says he will support joe biden come november. president trump blasted powell

on twitter, blaming him for the war in iraq. powell says the decision to support biden is personal. >> i'm close to joe biden on a social and political manner. i worked with him for 35, 40 years. he is now the candidate and i will be voting for him. >> reporter: we got a statement from the trump campaign. they say president trump has the support of a record number of republicans across the country. he leads a united party and will win in november. we have started to see, though, a few lawmakers up on capitol hill start to break ranks with the president on a certain number of issues and they do include some high profile senators, lisa murkowski of alaska and chuck grassley of iowa. he is demanding information about why some inspector generals have been fired. lisa murkowski said she is struggling to decide who to support this year. the president decided to fire back at murkowski, tweeting, quote, few people know where they'll be two years from now,

but i do, in the great state of alaska, which i love, campaigning against senator lisa murkowski. it's the president who is up for re-election first. he has not been holding campaign rallies lately because of the coronavirus. there is a lot of questions about what the summer could look like as the gop convention is still looking for a new place to host the majority of its events. arthel. arthel: mark meredith, thank you very much. eric. eric: arthel, for more on this, let's bring in the editor in chief of the fulcrum, david hawkins. david, is this a republican revolt against the president or really much ado about nothing because it's the usual suspects. >> i would say somewhere in between. i would say there's definitely a republican split. i don't think it amounts to a revolt just yet but it's a clear split and i think what you see is a split between sort of the old guard and the new guard. the folks that you started out talking about led by george w

bush, colin powell, these are people who they have made their mark in politics. now they're just trying to secure their place for the history books. they don't have political careers to look forward to. they don't need to make anymore money, don't need to benefit from the president's support. the folks that are sticking with him -- it is true what the president's campaign said. he has done an astonishing job of holding elected republicans behind him, no matter what he said. republicans, elected officials almost all of them with the exceptions that you've been mentioning have stuck with the president time and time again. i would say the ones who haven't are doing this for their own reason. we should remember that lisa murkowski was denied the republican nomination four years ago when she ran for re-election. she was elected as a write-in consistent date because the conservative republicans in her state revolted against her. chuck grassley is an icon in iowa who probably feels like he doesn't need the president anymore if he runs for re-election again. that's the split, it's between people who feel like they have a

future in office or they want to have a future as lobbyists or want to make money or make careers and need the president, and those who don't. eric: here's what axio wrote about some of those you just mentioned. former president george w bush will not support trump's re-election. his brother, jeb has not made a decision on how to vote. pullinpaul ryan and john boehner failed to say how he would vote. john rooney said he is considering voting for biden because trump is driving us all crazy and mishandled the u.s. response to the coronavirus and here is colin yo you powell -- colin powell again this 340r7bg. >> the one word i have to use with respect to what he's been doing for the last several years is a word i would never have used before, i never would have used with any of the four presidents i worked for. ellie car -- he lies about th.

i couldn't vote for him. i could not in any way support president trump this year. eric: it didn't work in 2016 so why should anyone listen now? >> well, i think it's a good question. it is a good question. it is more -- it's one thing to break with the president's -- before he's the president, in other words, in 2016, these republicans who declined to support the candidate or were much more numerous. you remember especially towards the end, after the access hollywood tape there were a number of them who didn't. refusing to back the president of your own party who is running for re-election, a bigger deal. have you to say to yourself i inthink, why they are doing thi. they have a choice between trusting electioned officials who work with them every day and have their own agendas on the line, their own futures on the line and a small number of republican whose are out of the

game who have the license to commit candor and who are in their views speaking their mind. which one do the republican voters view as a little more trustworthy? eric: speaking of candor, typical trump-arian, is that a word i can use? you see the treat from the president. quote, colin powell, a real stiff who is very responsible for getting us into a disastrous middle east war just announced he will be voting for another stiff, joe biden. didn't powell say that iraq had weapons of mass destruction? they didn't. but off he went to war. he later tweeted, somebody please tell highly overrated colin powell that i've gotten almost 300 federal judges approved, he goes on about tax cuts and his record. doesn't -- wouldn't these endorsements in a way finally boomerang because then he can come out and say what he just said. look, these are creatures of the

swamp, they're trying to protect their retirement plan, this what is i've been running against, folks and this could end up helping his candidacy? >> the president has had extraordinary success trying to frame criticism in a way that is going to do a little bit of a reverse engineering of criticism and make it represented in a way that he thinks works for him so my guess is that he will try. i sort of think it's the opposite. colin powell is no longer a creature of the swamp. colin powell is a retired american icon. george w bushies a retired -- bushiebush is the only formerg republican president we've got. mitt romney perhaps might serve one term in the senate and then retire. we're also looking at cindy mccain, the widow of the other most recent republican nominee, she is on the fence. these folks don't have much to

gain other than as i say sort of their place in history, their stature, and so the president will attack them. he clearly does. he wastes no time. and this is what keeps many people who are currently in republican politics who are going to be responsible for continuing the republican party, building the republican party, rebuilding it if the president is defeated this fall or building it in a new post trump image four years from now, these are the folks that are standing aside. eric: all right. we'll see as it rolls on. david, always good to see you. you win the award for the most serious home office of anybody. that is really an office of a diligent journalist with whatever that official thing is on the wall that we can see, just terrific. >> that stuff all belongs to my spouse. but thank you. eric: you just said the right thing. david, thank you. arthel: best answer. best answer, david. best answer, david.

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seeing a seed change in attitude and behavior. let's bring in ted williams, a former d.c. police detective and defense attorney ted, good to have you. we'll jump right in. first question, must law enforcement and local communities work together to foster reform and real change? >> you know, let me first say hello to you, arthel. and secondly, that president obama has it right squarely on the mark. there has been a change within the community when it comes to law enforcement and police and the community itself working together. to answer your question, yeah, i think that you're going to see a metamorphisis in law enforcement as we go forward. law enforcement realizes they need the community more than ever and the community realizes

they need law enforcement more than ever. because as long as we live, there are going to be crooks out here who are going to try to take advantage of us, the citizens and we're going to definitely need law enforcement officers. arthel: so you agree with president obama's observation that these protests now are more inclusive and they're well-organized, he says, because of social media. so what does that mean, ted, for progress? >> well, it means a lot. you just said it and articulated it very well. social media has made the difference. in the early '60s we did not have the social media sites and the social media engines we have now that can get and galvanize and bring people together and what we've seen is black people, white people, are coming together in these demonstrations, knowing full well that what law enforcement did specifically when you look at the tapes of george floyd, that this man, mr. floyd, was

killed at the hands of law enforcement officers. they can see that with their own eyes. and it makes a difference, arthel. arthel: yeah, and you see that around the world. not just here in our country. moving to the next point, some of those of protesters, not all, but some of them are demanding to defund police departments. what's your take on that? >> that, look, that's a no-brainer. you don't defund a police department. as a matter of fact, if you can, you add funds to law enforcement because they are there, arthel, to protect us. tomorrow, if something happened in your house, who are you going to call? a police officer. and so you need law enforcement and you need them to be out there working for you and not against you. arthel: maybe more money to have better training, better pay, better background

assessment. a lot of things to beef up the police department to make it even work better for the communities that they serve. >> absolutely. there's something called police community relationship that come together within a community between law enforcement and that community, where they are married, they're joined at the hip, where they're helping each other. and again, redundantly. you're not going to be able to call johnnie down the street when in fact there's something criminally happening in your home. you're going to call the police and you need to be able to call on them. arthel: right. ted, before i go, i've got 30 seconds. also, the police have to police the police as well. >> oh, absolutely. and that is the problem. law enforcement officers for too long have stuck with bad police officers. they need to weed them out, get them out, and move on. arthel: well-put, mr. ted

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eric: the death of gored ' george floyd and -- the death of george floyd has caused some major corporations to encourage nor diversity in the workplace. we have details. >> reporter: seeing a lack of diversity in the workplace can feel isolating. >> you deal with always being looked over of and not knowing your true worth. >> reporter: this doctor left a corporate pharmacy job to open a restaurant and lounge in ybor city. he says inclusion is a step toward understanding and empathy. >> creating a diverse workforce is incredibly important because those shared experiences, you're able to talk to the people. >> reporter: racial injustice is the focus of dozens of companies supporting black lives matter in

the wake of george floyd's murder, many brands are also remaining silent. but as communities call for change, they say it includes workplaces and leadership boards that don't all look the same. >> the first step is to acknowledge and normal eyes diversity. >> reporter: usf business professor says just hiring minorities doesn't completely address inclusion issues. she says employers should have conversation was employees and cultural workshops. >> unconscious biases are not challenged if there is no diversity. have training that is more based on unconscious biases. often we make mistakes, we make assumptions because we don't know. that is not the right assumption. >> reporter: she also says being aware of how words and actions can affect marginalized groups makes a difference and business owners like glen agree. >> maybe then you may not end up with your foot in your mouth when you say something that's

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eric: , well a -- now we're back. well, sad news in australia, a surfer was killed after he was attacked by a great white shark. officials say the ten foot shark attacked a 60-year-old man who was killing in king's cliff, about 500 miles south of sydney. they say nearby surfers desperately fought the shark off and they got the swimmer to shore but he died on the beach a short time later. local media reports say authorities were granted permission to kill the shark but they couldn't find it because it disappeared right after the attack. this happens to be the third deadly shark attack in australia this year. in our country there are an average of 16 shark attacks a year, a death every two years, the last one just happened sadly last month in california when a 26-year-old surfer was killed by a shark off the coast of california. arthel. arthel: it was one of the most consequential moments in history, dropping the nuclear

bomb on hiroshima during world war ii. chris wallace tells the gripping true story of the turbulent months that led president harry truman to give the order. it's tonight, 10:00 p.m. eastern. jon: nationwide demonstrations against police brutality maintain their momentum but the mass gatherings are sparking growing concerns over a possible resurgence of coronavirus. good evening, i'm jon scott and this is a special two hour edition of the fox report. ♪ jon: the number of confirmed covid-19 cases in the u.s. now approaching 2 million with the death toll topping 110,000. the rate of infection now slower than when the virus peaked in april but white house coronavirus task force member dr. anthony fauci is warning of a possible resurgence, thanks to the mass protests that continue tonight all across the c