police officers. that's about the story." we will see you back here tomorrow night at 7:00. good night, everybody. tucker carlson is up next. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and while welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." hohow are things in our republi? black lives matter rioters created their own country in downtown seattle. by the way, thanks to the arrival of the coronavirus, mark steyn has been absent since march, he's been stuck in quarantine many miles from a tv studio and we missed him. tonight, his triumphant return to cable news, he joins us in just a minute but mark steyn is not the only one who has been locked down in this country.

even now, millions of americans remain subjected to unprecedented restrictions on their personal lives, daily lives, family lives. the lockdowns continue in many places, if you're living on it you definitely know. as a result of this, tens of millions of people are now unemployed, a huge number of them have no prospects of working again, many thousands of small businesses are closed and will never reopen. americans have seen their marriage is dissolved, became clinically depressed. some have blamed their wedding, others were banned from the government by from burying their loved ones and funerals. an unknown number have taken their own lives in despair. others have gone to the streets to riot because bottled up rage and frustration take many forms. the cost of shutting down the united states in denying our citizens desperately needed contact with one another is hard

to calculate but the cost has been staggering. the people responsible for doing all this, we faced a global calamity, the worst pandemic since the spanish flu, that flu killed 50 million people. we had no choice. we did the right thing. that's what they're telling us. is it true, the answer to that question matters not just because the truth always matters but because the credibility of our leaders is at stake here, this is the biggest decision they made in our lifetimes, they were able to make it, they ruled, because we let them. their power comes from us. so the question now and always is, are they worthy of that power? it's not a conversation they want to have an right now they don't have to have that conversation because right now all of us are distracted and mesmerized by the woke revolution underway outside. they created a separate country in seattle. as we said, we will bring you the latest on that in just a minute but we think it's worth

taking a pause to assess whether or not they were in fact lying to us about the coronavirus and our response to it. the short answer is this, yes, they were definitely lying. as a matter of public health, conclusively, the lockdowns were not necessary. we can prove that and here's the most powerful evidence, states that never locked down at all, states where people were allowed to live like americans and not cower in indoors alone, turned out no worse than they could states that had mandatory quarantine, the states you probably live in. the states that did lock down and were quick to reopen have not seen explosions of coronavirus cases paid all of this is the opposite of what they said would happen with great confidence. the media predicted mass death in places of lake of the ozark, new york city, maryland, but those deaths never happened. in the end, the coronavirus turned out to be a dangerous disease but a manageable disease

like so many others. far more dangerous where the lockdowns themselves. for example, in new york, pennsylvania, new jersey, panicked and incompetent governors forced nursing homes to accept coronavirus patients. the media would rather tell you why you need to hate your neighbor for the color of his skin. the media definitely don't want to revisit what they were saying just a few weeks ago and they were acting as press agents for power drunk democratic politicians. news anchors were ordering you to stop asking questions and obey. >> while most americans are staying inside, if they are not protesting -- they are not happy about being told to stay home. staying home saves lives. >> the rest of us should be staying at home for the people we love and to keep us farther

apart will ultimately bring us closer together. our collective conscientious actions staying home. >> tucker: if you love your mother you will do what i say. turns out cable news anchors don't make very subtle propaganda. and then memorial day arrived and some states started to reopen, millions of grateful americans headed outdoors for the first time in months. and the media attacked them for doing that, called them killers. swimming with your kids, they told us, was tantamount to mass murder. >> jam-packed pool parties at the lake of the ozarks resort and other places, few if any people were wearing masks or practicing social distancing. >> overcrowded pools despite the ongoing pandemic. bunched up in what looks like a kind of humans do. >> a lot of people in those crowds thought they were for

what the president believes in and that is not to care about the public safety part of this. >> look at this, it's kind of crazy considering we were in the middle of a global pandemic, that is curving the curve, that's not flattening it. >> massive crowd of people crammed together as if it were an ordinary holiday weekend despite the risk of a virus that has killed more than 98,000 people. >> that montage was the opposite of a mensa meeting. the last clip you saw was from may 25th, over two weeks ago, 98,000 people are dead, how dare you leave your house? you don't work in the media, you're not essential. but it didn't take long for that message to change completely. it took precisely five days. here's the same brain-dead news anchor you just saw a less than a week later, he's no

longer angry about americans going outside as long as they are rioting and burning and not doing something sinful like swimming with their children, he's delighted by it. >> if anyone is judging this, i'm not judging this, i'm just wondering what is going on because we were supposed to figure out this experiment a long time, our country was started because -- this is, the boston tea party, rioting, so do not get it twisted and think that this is something that is not ever happened before and this is so terrible and where are we and all of that, this is how this country was started. >> tucker: yeah, don't judge, this is how this country was started. by eluding cvs and setting fire to wendy's. you took american history, you knew that. andrew cuomo's brother must have been in the same history class because he had the same reaction. >> america's major cities are filled with people demanding

this country become more fair, more just stand please show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful because i can show you that outraged citizens are the ones who have made america what she has and led to many major milestones. they are here to yell, criticize, blame, and shame. citizens have no duty to check their outrage. >> tucker: so lau, one minute they were mass murderers are going outside, now they are sam adams, they are patriots, american heroes. if all of this seems like a pretty abrupt pit it, rioting is not a health risk, as long as it helps the democratic party's prospects in the november election, rioting will not spread the coronavirus. we can be certain of that because last week hundreds of self-described public health officials signed a letter saying something. they announced that the black

lives matter riots are a vital contribution to public health. that doesn't mean you get to go outside, you don't. thanks to coronavirus you do not have the right to resume your life and if you complain about that it's "white nationalism," that was a professional conclusion. does a single american believe any of that? no. of course not. it is too stupid even for cnn to repeat so they mostly ignored it. that's an ominous side if you think about it. these people are done trying to convince you, even to fool you, they're not making arguments, they are issuing decrees, they think they can. they no longer believe they need your consent to make big decisions to run the country. once the authority stop trying to change your mind, even by deceit it means they decided to use force, and they have. during the lockdowns, people who loved ones died were not allowed to have funerals for them. think about that, it's hard to think of anything crueler but it happened to a lot of people,

they claimed it was necessary. it was not necessary and we know that they because now that a man has died whose death is politically useful to democratic party, the authorities have given him three funerals and not a word about a health risk. or consider king county, washington. restaurants in king county are operating at 25% capacity, that's the law now. nonessential businesses are allowed 15% capacity. the effect of that is economic disaster, most small businesses run on very small margins, they can't survive for long and many have failed. what should they do? they should join antifa, obviously, because in king county, washington, antifa can do whatever they want to do. they've taken an entire six block section of downtown seattle and that's fine, no social distancing required, they are essential. is this adding up to our message? yeah, the messages you were played, we were all played, corrupt politicians scared us into giving up control over the

most basic questions in our own lives. in the same time they gave more power to their obedient followers while keeping the rest of us trapped at home and censored online. they used a public health emergency to subvert democracy and instill themselves as monarchs. how are they able to do this? the sad truth is they did it because we let them do it. we believed them, their therefore we obeyed them and if there's anything good to come out of this disaster it's that none of us will ever make that mistake again. dr. dan erickson is an emergency physician and co-owner of accelerated urgent care, you may recognize his face because he saw him on youtube, he made the mistake of questioning the coronavirus lockdowns. we are happy to have them on to join us tonight, thanks so much for coming on. i have to ask you for about 48 hours you are the most famous physician in america as many of

people watch do you explain the coronavirus lockdowns and then big tech sensors you, do you feel vindicated by these numbe numbers? >> i don't know if vindicated is the right word but i think a lot of different institutions, seeing about 4% positivity rate for the immune testing so whether it's stanford, were all getting similar numbers so when we first came out with our data they said these are wildly inaccurate and they were raw data and we are putting our data in a more scientific format so they can analyze it and we can sort of review the data in different formats. the first time was just some raw data but it turns out that raw data was pretty accurate to what was a more sophisticated studies are finding. >> tucker: not only was it pretty accurate, the data you presented in your now famous youtube video, they turned out to be far more accurate than the date of the media bombarded us with, the world health organization gave to us in the beginning, you turned out to me

much closer to the actual outcome than they did, why do you think that is? >> we've done over 11,000 tests and we were using raw data, we were not using academic modeling, for an academic purpose to try to have sort of predict certain outcomes but they don't often give you a very accurate numbers, we saw millions of cases predicted and that didn't come out to be very accurate so my goal was to present raw data and say here's where i'm at, we've tested this many people, this many are positive, it wasn't supposed to be a technical analysis but the raw data we've been following from everybody else seems to be about the same so i think instead of using the academic modeling i think next time we go through a pandemic we ought to just look at our raw data and maybe make decisions that don't cause $22 trillion economy collapse. >> tucker: we should follow the science, in other words. what is it tell you about the state of the country right now

that you are attacked, vilified, censored for trying to do science? >> i think what's interesting is what makes this country great is a variety of ideas, and often competing ideals, part of the beauty of it is we can sit down, reason together and come up with solutions even if we disagree with one another. and i think we are in kind of a dangerous position if we say, some of it needs to be shouted down and buried as opposed to discussing, i know youtube, facebook, companies are privately owned and are free to do that but i think it's not the best policy and i don't think we get the strongest opinions and the stronger solutions to come to the surface if we just shout down and take people off the air that have opinions that differ from what the masses are saying. >> tucker: i'm smiling because you're making a powerful case for what we used to call diversity which is no longer allowed. the ironies mount. it's an honor to have you on, thank you. >> thank you.

>> tucker: speaking of vindicated, one of the only reporters in america who was brave enough to follow the data from the beginning, now the author "unreported truths about spigot-19 and locked down." initially the company refused to sell it. we have more data than we had yesterday and certainly much more than we had a month and a half ago. what's the conclusion you'd come to? >> it's actually clearer in europe than it is in the u.s., ending lockdowns does not seem to make much difference at all. and you can see that it's great to look at europe because europe doesn't have the red state/blue state problem in most of these countries are pretty politically liberal so if you look at norway at where the head of the health authorities at a couple weeks ago, were not sure that lockdowns made any difference because it looked like moderate social distancing made all the

difference we needed and possibly the virus is on the way out even as we close the lockdown. in switzerland they basically ended all their lockdown restrictions i think about a week ago. denmark, same thing. these countries which have no political ax to grind here, which are not trying to get donald trump reelected and could care less about that have all moved quickly to end their lockdowns and they really haven't seen any spike. in the u.s., it's a little more, get it because we have so many states and we have places where there might be a transient increase in cases, cases gaining positive infections by tests, that does not mean people are dying necessarily. georgia, for example, the number of people hospitalized, is half what it was six weeks ago, in wisconsin where lockdowns were essentially thrown out all at once, although some counties try to put it back a little bit, that was a month ago.

hospitalizations are down, deaths are down. it's hard to paint a picture that ending lockdowns are meaningful in any way. you helped get the news of the book went out last weekend without you it would not be where it is. and you've been a strong voice in this and i do appreciate it. >> tucker: well it just bothers me because in a moment where you are making huge, history-changing decisions about a country of 325 million people, if you try to shut down certain points of view you are a bound to reach bad conclusions. the fact that you were censored, what does that say about how these decisions were made? >> it's even worse than that because amazon is the company that has profited the most from the lockdown and amazon has a lock on publishing right now silver amazon to deny me and they've denied some other people, those people have been able to get their censorship restricted but for them to deny

me a chance to put out a book that sold 100,000 copies in a week which is a massive number, it shows how eager people are for the truth. for them to do it. is censorship even if they are not a public company, they are a basically a utility for bookselling. >> tucker: it's totally wrong and by the way it's just the beginning, you think jeff bezos wouldn't shut this channel down tomorrow if he could? of course he would. good to see you tonight. >> tucker, thanks. >> tucker: black lives matter activists have seen several blocks in downtown seattle, they say they won't leave until the entire police department is fired and created an autonomous zone, their own country. we will take you there. also, historic moment in cable

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♪ >> tucker: an army of black lives matter activists have taken over six city blocks in downtown seattle, surrounding an abandoned police precinct. they gave themselves the name the capitol hill autonomous zone. they say they will not leave and disband their new nation until the city's police department is abolished completely. dan springer is at the zoning seattle. dan? >> this is the first night of what can only be described as a complete takeover of a seven block area of a seattle neighborhood and we don't see a single police officer or city official anywhere so it doesn't

appear as if the protesters are digging in for the long haul. they call it the capitol hill autonomous zone and right in the center of it is the seattle police department's eighth precinct. police said they are boarded up and abandoned the building on monday after receiving a credible threat that criminals in the protest group were planning to burn it down. as we look around the police-free zone today, we looked at tense, lots of graffiti and barricades at the entrances. there's also security guards, and one of our find protesters here showing his ignorance. a local station got video of several armed with assault rifles, they are asking for identification before for letting people in and police have seen seen reports of the armed guards demanding money from some of the businesses in their area.

they made a long list of deman demands, at least some of them. among them, abolish the seattle police department and the court system, disarm all caps until they are all fired. the mayor's office did not respond to our request for information about what they plan to do next and how this all ends. and you can see one of our protesters here yelling to hear himself yell. yes, very good. we will send it to you. this is what we're dealing with out here. >> tucker: be careful, dan. well, that's america right now tonight, totally cool, not a big deal. the demands you heard, a couple of them, abolishing the police, they are also demanding the immediate retrial of all nonwhite violent felons currently in prison, people convicted of a violent crime who are not white, they all need new trials but they are also

demanding abolition of all prisons, not just those for young people, they demand a ban on disturbing homeless encampments in any way, an end to all evictions. they demand segregated hospitals, something we were pleased to get over but they want them back. they want black doctors and nurses exclusively hired to care for black patients, they want segregation. are you cool with that? of course they demand immediate amnesty for all rioters in the past two weeks. i wanted to share those demands with you and be honest about them because nobody else is going to tell you. the left's preferred responses much like their response to rioting around the country. the governor of washington was asked about the mob that took over the center of his state's largest city. his response, never heard of them. >> i'd like to ask you about what's going on in seattle and the capitol hill autonomous zone, what's your thoughts of the fact that protesters have

taken that over? >> well that's news to me so i will have to reserve any comment about it, i have not heard anything about that. >> tucker: not a big deal, a group of racist lunatics with semiautomatic created its own country in the middle of your biggest city. what happens when leaders behave like that? and they are so weak they can't even criticize lunatics with guns creating a new country in the middle of their biggest city? what do you think it does? it's a message to predators of pure ambition. as long as we have leaders like that and as long as they refuse to stand up to extremists, were going to get more extremists and that's happened. even republicans in washington are standing aside as police nationwide are denounced as a racist. all of them. yesterday the head of new york's police benevolent association begged for support.

>> mothers are worried about their children getting home from school without being killed by a cop. what world are we living in? that doesn't happen. it does not happen. the legislators, the press, everybody is trying to shame us. into being embarrassed about our profession. well you know what? this is insane. it's still got a shine on it, stop treating us like animals and thugs and start treating us with some respect. >> tucker: poignant. a senior fellow at the claremont institute, just wrote an extraordinarily insightful piece, thanks so much for coming on tonight. i just want to be clear that the people doing this are democratic voters, the people making it possible are democratic officeholders but i still reserve my greatest frustration for the republicans and capitol hill who should be protecting the country from all

of this and they decided to take a pass because it's controversial and they are cowards. explain to us if you would, as you did in the piece i just mentioned, what happens when nobody pushes back against insanity? >> well thanks, tucker. you're exactly right, what happens as you see a total breakdown of order, weakness does become provocative, i worked for many years with ronald reagan secretary of state, ronald reagan sort of emphasized peace through strength and his foreign policy and negotiations are a synonym for capitulation within the shadow of power is not cast across the bargaining table. right now we are casting a shadow of weakness and everybody can see it. black lives matter can see it, and t4 can see it and it's a huge problem. and so we look weak and that is inviting the sort of things you see and capitol hill. i used to live in seattle, one of my best friends, ran a

restaurant and capitol hill and i use to help him clean up afterwards, you know, after a hard night shift working on very low margins. what does that sort of behavior due to his business? back then and those of the people we are forgetting when we are being cowardly in this way with respect to antifa and respect to black lives matter. >> tucker: that's exactly right and people like that make this country possible and how long until they decide, why am i paying my taxes? people are going to start to think like that and i can see why. republicans think, on capitol hill. i think most are republicans are horrified by this but our officeholders decided, we will let this go and be the beneficiaries of it. do you think they will derive political advantage from ignoring riots? >> a basic emphasis on law and order and allowing normal people tto do things safely is

absolutely a winning message for the republican party and i think if we think we are just going to let things go out of control on our watch and everybody's going to say well, it's all democrats, i think the polling is certainly not showing that right now. we need to be for basic order and civil society and when we have folks like mitt romney saying black lives matter as if by him saying that the rest of republican voters somehow don't think that, don't think people lives matter unless they have a certain color of skin, it's a slander on our own voters. instead of being for the middle class we are slandering our own voters implicitly and our voters are getting that message and they are discouraged. >> tucker: the republican party will not survive this if they allow it to continue, they will be replaced by something far more radical and i don't want to live in a country with a really radical politics but we are going to get it if we don't step up and take her spots ability for the nation we are sworn to protect, i believe th

that. jeremy crossan, great addition to our conversation, thank you. >> thank you so much. >> tucker: in some places the coronavirus lockdowns are easing up but top democrats think joe biden should stay in his basement as long as possible. that's really the best strategy. but what does it say about the cynicism behind his campaign? that's next. bottom line is,

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he's not a governor, he's not the president, he needs to come out strategically like he did on racial issues a few days ago, it needs to have a big impact. >> tucker: dana perino, she joins us tonight. as i listen -- thank you for coming, i thought -- if someone ever says that about me my feelings are going to be hurt, i can't imagine anything more patronizing than someone saying, he's great, just don't let them talk. defund to >> if you were in a presidential contact stand in the last month you had seen your opponents numbers go down by the numbers that president trump tab and you haven't really come out of your basement except for the last week -- you might not want to change it either. don't fix what isn't broken and i think that's what he saying, he's a strategist who wants to

see biden win and for right now it seems to be working for him. "the wall street journal" poll, 80% of the people in the country think things are out of control and if you have an incumbent president who is going down then why would you do anything different? the good news for the trump team is that there's four and a half months to go, joe biden is not only going to have to come out of the basement buddies going to have a heck of a lot of media run against him, the trump campaign is well-funded, they are going to be able to go on his record, on the crime bill, he's going to be pulled to the left and he's going to have to debate. those are all things that are going to pull them out of the basement but for right now i think terry mcauliffe is right. >> tucker: my view is the president's numbers are down because the republicans have decided not to do any thing about the riots because they are afraid and people don't appreciate that. whether i'm right or wrong, i still wonder whether biden will

consent to a debate, why wouldn't biden just say the president is a bad person, coronavirus, black lives matter, i'm not debating. can he do that? >> i guess he could, i don't think it would be smart of him but you can also see president trump, he's already hinted in the past that he thinks it will be rigged against him, he doesn't like the presidential debate commission and if you are an incumbent president and your numbers are really high then you wouldn't want to debate either. i just think that americans deserve a debate between the two candidates if you're going to go into a presidential election. he also has another big thing coming, even though it's usually just the media that cares about the vice presidential pick, this time it really matters, whoever is going to be the vice presidential choice is going to have to pass the, could this person be president test more so than anybody in the recent past. >> tucker: this is the most cynical thing i've ever seen. normally people at least pretend they have a vision that they

want to bring to america. this is like, we want power, we don't like this guy, but is in charge. >> he's going to have to think figure out a way -- he doesn't have enthusiasm on his side. president trump has all the enthusiasm you can imagine from his voters but is not enough? and then joe biden doesn't have much enthusiasm but he has enthusiasm from voters that want to vote against trump. talk about cynical, voting against somebody rather than voting for somebody to me is not very satisfying but in this case, that will be part of the equation going into november and we are only four and a half months away, talker. >> tucker: i hate to admit, i always vote against people. you're a nice person. dana perino, thank you so much. i would definitely not vote against you. good to see you. for the past couple months, we've been flooded with cards and letters electronically asking one question, where is

mark steyn, where is he been, is he okay? proof of life after the break.

♪ >> tucker: yesterday hbo pulled "gone with the wind" from its lineup of movies. now forbidden. in dallas, the city government removed a statue of the texas ranger. meanwhile, npr, national public radio would you pay for briefly promoted a piece urging readers to "decolonize their bookshelves." so here we have censoring movies, ripping down statues, encouraging book burning, what is it up to do with police brutality? nothing, these are attacks on our shared history and our culture. this is a topic worth discussing on their small no one worth discussing it more width than the great mark steyn. mark steyn, would you mind holding up today's newspaper to establish that it is in fact you and not a hologram? >> i love to hold up today's newspaper but it went out of business six weeks into the

pandemic when they quarantined all the newspaper boys because the best way to get covid is by throwing the infected newspaper on to your neighbor's doorstep so that's all over, talker, you've got to keep up. >> tucker: we've missed you. you're watching all of us from seclusion, none of this seems to have anything to do with police brutality. what's going on? >> to go to what we've been talking about tonight and last night, where other people who will defend this? you can't have a culture war if one side refuses to turn up, the politics on the looting, the rioting, the republican party and conservatives have been largely silent and similarly on the culture war they -- the other side has been largely silent. it's not the young snowflake generation who are easily triggered, it's the middle-aged

guys running hbo and these other corporations, why are they not defending this? they've made millions off of "gone with the wind." if people don't like it, fine. make your own movie, write your own novel, do your own play about the antebellum south but don't demand that things be abolished simply because they weren't made with the peculiar narcissistic sensibilities of 2020 in mind. >> tucker: so our entire culture exists digitally now, it's very difficult to get rid of all copies of "catcher in the rye." it's very easy to eliminate an e-book, should be worried about erasing our culture, our past, our civilization? >> absolutely. you say digitally -- i'm not so sure. we may be at the beginning of one of those dystopian tales

where in a few years' time, somebody stumbles across the last videocassette recorder in the woods and that happens to be a tape of "gone with the wind" and they marvel at it because they've never seen this before. this generation is a hypertense per generation and unfortunately it's determined to destroy everything it doesn't understand which is quite a lot. >> tucker: i've got to ask you about your whereabouts, you sent word to our staff that you are in a cave in kandahar but i don't think he really were, where have you been? >> you can get a great tan in a cave in kandahar. i didn't qualify for the executive but property is incredibly reasonable. you know, let's be honest, when

the powder keg goes up, the cave in kandahar will be looking pretty good. if i come back last month i would've done lockdown shtick. if i'd come back last week i would've done looting shtick but i'm looking for than either or about box because the choice between being locked down in every aspect of your life are being allowed a run of the streets because white supremacy is an even greater public health thrice crisis than covid, i'm looking for then either of the above box in those two choices. >> tucker: i'm not surprised to learn that unlike the rest of us you figured out a better way to live. mark steyn. again, we are very glad to have you back. thank you. >> thanks a lot, talker. >> tucker: cnn, you will not be surprised to learn, just won an award from the white house response association. not for covering a critical news

event, an award for doing what people in washington actually care about which is humiliating and crushing their political opponents. that's next. ♪

>> tucker: these are live pictures of st. paul in minnesota as the mob is tearing down the head of the statute, not sure who the statue was of. this is metastasizing as a direct assault on our culture and western civilization itself. tomorrow we will take you where it's breaking out across the country. in the meantime, the democratic party doesn't care about policy or issues, and for decades, they made fun of democratic leaders and they are sending them to prison for it. the press is applauding this

abuse of power. they enjoy a man almost 70 being handcuffed at the point of an automatic rifle. of course they didn't "break the story" that was a lie they are telling you. at the scene and was tipped off by corrupt officials of the fbi. it's a measure of how corrupt the white house association is if they ignore this intended they didn't know, but of course they knew. everyone knows. the press release claims cnn even stones on lawyers, and cnn only call for comment. he is convicted of not recalling relevant emails and they are sending him to prison for the rest of his useful life if he

goes to prison, if he is not pardoned to do, we are all in big trouble. if they can do it to roger stone, they can definitely do it to you. >> 29 guys in tactical gear and frogmen, the cnn chemist just happened to be there and i don't believe it either. if you are right, a process crime and now we know that the jury foreperson had already spoken. he should not go to jail. >> that's well said. thank you, tucker. welcome to "hannity," we have so much to cover including these pictures of the statue coming down. we don't know exactly who it is and, we have a lot more and we will keep that up on the screen for a while. we will have more later.

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