june 12, 2020. we will be continuing at light t along with you. monday night from new york. have a good weekend, everybody. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight," we are going to have a live update for you in just a moment on the nation of chaz, the new breakaway republic forming in downtown seattle, washington. but first, on wednesday, senator elizabeth warren of massachusetts proposed and amendment to the annual defense funding bill. her wording would order the pentagon to rename all military bases that are currently name for confederate civil war generals. including many of the most famous in the country. fort benning in georgia,

fort hood in texas, fort bragg in north carolina. you may have trained on one of those bases, the men who fought and won world war ii coded. but warren's amendment goes farther. warrant would also require the desecration of war graves. this country is filled with national cemeteries who honor americans who died in our wars and many of the cemeteries hold civil war soldiers from both sides and contain monuments to their sacrifices. those soldiers, blue and gray, confederate and union are buried alongside one another and they are for a reason. one side and that conflict was right, the union side. and the other was wrong, the confederate side. but when it was over they were all americans again and allowing them to lie in the same cemetery next to each other allows this country to heal its deepest for sure. but healing is the opposite of what elizabeth warren wants to do now. she has no time for healing. she profits from hatred and division, particularly racial

division, no matter how mindless. how many dead confederate soldiers owned or even supported slavery? elizabeth warren doesn't know, she doesn't care to know. she wants to humiliate them 150 years after they died and more to the point, their descendants now. in arlington national cemetery there is a memorial to confederate troops, warren's amendment order's army to tear it down. this is vandalism, obviously. but it's worse and deeper than that. healthy societies do not destroy their own history, a country is the sum total of what has happened within it, good and b bad. without history you have no country, you just have a collection of banks and check cashing outlets and retail stores. all of us may have iphones but that's not a country, it's obvious. but somehow it's not obvious to senate republicans, they support elizabeth warren's amendment, the amendment easily emerged from the by bipartisan services committee.

if the president doesn't veto it, it will become law. the republicans are fine with that, they assume if it does become law it will be enough, the mob will be sated, the destroyers will of god and what they wanted and the g.o.p. can return to its preferred agenda, carrying water for big finance. they are mistaken in this because it's never enough, extremists are never placated. every success makes them stronger and makes the more radical. we're watching it now, that's why around the country mobs are not waiting for a vote to destroy history, they watched rioters looted and burn without being punished and they took to the queue, now they are destroying history in many states. enrichment, for example, they ripped the statue of christopher columbus from its pedestal and threw it in a lake. these explain what that might have to do with police brutality. in philadelphia they vandalized statue statue of an industrial industrialist named matthias baldwin. before the civil war, the southern railroads refused to

buy his engines. he was on the right side. it doesn't matter. baldwin lived a long time ago and the statue of him was old so they wrecked it. year zero, nothing that came before can remain. for that reason, dozens of other monuments have suffered the same fate, often with the encouragement of our professionals, they are cheering it on. aaron thompson is the professor of art crime at new york's john jay college of criminal justice. she says her expertise as "the damage done to humanity's shared heritage from looting, theft, and the deliberate destruction of art. professor thompson is herself an enthusiastic supporter of destroying our shared heritage. "use chain instead of rope and it will go faster" then she shared even more tips for effectively destroying our monuments. nowhere does anyone in authority seem interested in protecting our history in protecting our

public spaces from nihilists like professor thompson and the mobs she commands. the police memorial in richmond, virginia, commemorates the sacrifice of officers killed in a line of duty, nothing to do with the confederacy. you'd think our leaders were defended but no, they didn't. the other day i mopped a face that memorial and authorities did nothing. what are our leaders telling us by their negligence in the face of the mob? they are sending a very clear message that says we don't care about you, we don't care about the country, we don't care about your history, your monuments, your rights or your safety. meanwhile forces of hate and repression are destroying all of these things. as far back as three years ago, cnn employees were calling for the destruction of the washington monument and the jefferson memorial. >> american history is not all blurry. i couldn't disagree more about george washington, george washington was a slave owner and we need to call slave owners out for what they are whether we think they were protecting american freedom are not, he was in protecting my freedom, my ancestors weren't

deemed human beings to him so to me i don't care if it's a george washington statue or a thomas jefferson statue or a robert e. lee statue, they all need to come down. >> tucker: thanks for the lecture. it may happen, at this rate it will come of the washington monument will be torn down with chains, not ropes. the jefferson memorial, too. how many lives will be improved? how many people will be happier, will get better jobs? how many will be improved by the desecration of war graves? none. it's not about improving the lives of anyone of any color, it's about political power. it's an attempt to legitimize you, who votes the wrong way, and the society you live in which they hate and want to control. you think you live in a country with freedom of speech, freedom of the religion, quality guaranteed under law. no, the documents that celebrate those rights were written by bigots. we tore their statues down, now we are in charge. is anyone for this, exactly?

anyone? to the american people want this? no. even now in the middle of our cultural revolution, only 32% of americans say they want civil war statuary torn down. how about desecrating war graves? it's hard to believe there is a ground well of support for this. millions of people don't have jobs, why are we spending time on this? let'it's happening because of violent mob is forcing its agenda down the throat of our country. mitch mcconnell and other a republican's in the senate are too cowardly to resist them. when asked about the bill to desecrate national cemeteries, one congressional republican told journalist "this isn't the hill to die on." okay, so where is that hill, exactly? what won't you let them do to the country? let us know when you find out. to be clear, because there's no question this will become trending on twitter, we are not defending the southern confederacy. we abhor it.

few americans would defend the southern confederacy and again, we certainly wouldn't. the confederacy declared war on the united states, we are grateful they lost and their cause was discredited forever by losing. and it was discredited but that's the whole point, the civil war was the turning point in american history. it shaped who we are now, eliminating the past leaves us unable to say who we are and that's the point of eliminating it, it's exactly why they're doing it. joey jones is a retired marine staff sergeant who joins us tonight, thanks so much for coming on. just to be completely clear, this is a form of moral blackmailing which they used the term confederacy and people are paralyzed by the truth is they are trying to destroy evidence of what came before of our history, good and bad, what is that due to the country? >> i served eight years in the marine corps and i never thought twice about what our bases were named after other than the one

that was named after her, down in the marine corps. and what i'm trying to say there is what matters to day is what effect things have a mess today so i don't care about these confederate generals, i care that fort benning is where you go and you learn to be an army infantry and i don't know what kind of future you are building by tearing down statues so you offend one half of the people well appeasing the other but what you can do is bring communities together and build new memorials and new statues and a future that looks more like who we are and i'm okay with that conversation. but to just offend half the people so you can appease the other half divides us and what it really does is gives a whole group of politicians an opportunity to say look, see what i did do you there? go vote for me. while their minions go and say, see what your politicians didn't do for you? come to our side. that's what this is all about, you start people's emotions and get them to think about stuff they haven't thought about for

100 years so they can divide them and win votes. >> divide them. i guess what you're saying is it isn't really an effort to bring us together as a nation, it's an effort to divide us along tribal lines. >> that's exactly right. i live in georgia, i was raised in the south, there was a certain perception for the rebel battle flag that i grew out of because i joined the united states marine corps and learned there's only one flag available for my heart and that is a american flag. you don't get there through taking things out of the middle of the night, you'd get there through dialogue and communications. they are trying to draw lines, where are the leaders that understand building a future together isn't tearing down our past? i don't care what you do with the statues and the rebel flag but i do care how you leave and where you're going to take us, that's what's more important to me and you don't go in the future of rebuilding our communities by tearing down

statues, that's not how this works. >> tucker: i strongly agree and appreciate your point about one flag, it's the american flag under which we all stand. they are against the american flag, though, they have no problem with people flying the flag of foreign countries, the mexican flag at political rallies, i find that repugnant, that's not mexico, it's america. i don't understand how they are banning -- it's fine, ban all the flags you want but why are they trying to ban the american flag? that's the one you shouldn't band, correct? >> we don't need to ban anything, we need to look forward and say who are we and what we stand for? when they came after the betsy ross flag i had it tattooed on my right bicep. that was the first step towards a country we have today, we're only going to get better along the way and i don't know one person that feels like we are a better country because we are taking down a statue but i know a lot of people that might feel energized and inspired for the next memorial and monument we

put a band of the leader that comes forth because right now that's not what we have. >> tucker: why don't these people build something once in a while? i can't remember the last thing elizabeth warren built, they are incapable of building, they are totally incompetent, good luck finding the power grid. joey, we are looking at pictures live of a statue, i don't even know what statue it is, something old being pulled down, wilmington, delaware. >> what are we doing there? let's build a statue for the corporal that died saving my life, how about that? >> thank you. >> there is a new country on the continent, it's called chaz. what is life like? no police, no laws, no industrial base but it's a paradise and earth, we will go deep inside the borders of the new nation. but first, a word from our sponsors tonight, the chaz board of tourism.

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>> tucker: last night we introduced you to the latest addition to our global family of nations, the hundred and 96 country on earth, where keeping track, it's called chaz, the gleaming capital arises from land that once belonged to an indigenous but now nearly extinct tribe is known as the seattle police department. as with so many great nations, the creation story holds innumerable lessons for all of us, in a tale of unlikely good fortune and the triumph of perseverance over hardship. how do people with no useful

skills, no record of achievement or personal hygiene, a group capable of smashing windows and setting fires but nothing else, how do a group like that create an entirely new nation? that's a question we may soon face here in the united states in fact given our current trajectory. it's never easy to build things that people can only destroy but chaz pulled it off with grit and determination, this plucky little nation managed to give birth to itself and in the process a whole new era of democratic self-governance. okay, that's overstatement, they haven't actually built anything, it's still mostly graffiti and discarded starbucks cups. nor is it folio democracy, the country is run by a world war class wrapper, he is in other words work in progress. but chaz does have one functioning institution, a department of agriculture that's up and running, proud, independent people and they plan

to see themselves. take a look at chaz's first collective farm. it's not kansas at harvest time but it's a start, the farmers of chaz have big dreams, they imagine several more square feet of kale and organic scallions planted in dixie cups and of course cannabis, lots and lots of stinky indica buds for the people. they have heart, as they often say, if they could do it in jonestown, we can do it here. naturally officials in nearby washington state have become bitterly jealous of this thriving breakaway republic. two days ago, the small minded governor of washington pretended he had never even heard of chaz. >> i'd like to ask you about what's going on in seattle, the capitol hill autonomous zone, what's your thought on the fact that the protesters have taken out over and are not allowing people to come in?

>> well, that's news to me so i will have to reserve any comment about it, i have not heard anything about that. >> tucker: never heard of chaz? as if. come on, governor, show us the search history on your phone, every idealistic young pioneer in this country has been compuly googling chaz for days and you haven't? ridiculous. the media, meanwhile, not surprisingly, have missed the story completely. they are pretending that chaz isn't even a real country, they are calling it a street fair. >> hundreds of demonstrators are being gathered and what is being called part street protest don't come apart street festival. >> you could call it a community takeover. suggesting that the u.s. military would use force. this is the capitol hill neighborhood in the heart of seattle, were talking about a six block area. it's much more of a pedestrian street fair type atmosphere, the

food trucks are open, the favorite taco shop is open, there's couches out there. >> tucker: food trucks and a taco shop. the people on television pretend this proud, independent nation is some type of ethnic food festival. no corporate stooges, this isn't about pinata's and dunk tanks, this is nationhood. chaz has teeth, chaz can bite back. >> they want to see the police department defunded or even abolished. short of some type of major concession they're not going to leave voluntarily and we should point out that washington is an open carry state and no doubt some of these protesters are arm so you have to worry about the potential for bloodshed, the potential for violence. >> tucker: hear that, chaz deniers? chaz has guns. crack special forces teams will emerge like ninjas from the

shadows, you may not even recognize the soldiers, some may look homeless, others may be injecting narcotics or shoplifting but make no mistake, this army means business. they rolled over the seattle police department, they'll do it to you, too, cnn, watch out. our man on the ground across the demilitarized zone, he joins us. jason, thanks so much for coming on, were you able to cross the border today? >> well, i have to tell you they actually realize that their border was quite porous, some cops were able to get through so they re-fortified the borders that are there so they can keep some of these police invaders from coming into their nation so it's a little bit more difficult than usual to get in but they have actually confirmed that they are in fact armed and are keeping track of people who are coming in and out of their nation so they are taking their security very seriously but they are obviously also having some

problems as you just showed, what appears to be a farm that was put together by michael bloomberg, it literally looks like topsoil on top of ground that they haven't even dug up and they realize maybe it's going to take a little bit longer for them to grow some of the food. they have some requests. they're looking for some food, gatorade, also cigarettes of course and are realizing that maybe they don't have enough residents who are willing to do some of the cleanups of the city came in and clean some of the porta-potties that were delivered by the city to this new nation so seattle is stepping up. >> tucker: it sounds more like a refugee camp than it does a proud independent nation. >> look, what independent nation hasn't gone through some of these growing pains? they don't really even have a leader, now i know we mentioned, there is some concern that he doesn't actually represent everyone and it turns out there hasn't been an election, maybe there will be. perhaps they will ask for ids.

we will see. >> tucker: you said at the outset that chaz has fortified its borders. did anybody point out that that's racist? borders are racist, right? >> borders are racist but they are progressive seattleites and they are woke. >> tucker: you think you be able to get in tomorrow, over the weekend? >> that's your privilege. i'm going to try to not get contact high as i'm walking through, someone actually walked up to us and said, where can we smoke? and i said, it chaz, i think you can smoke wherever it is you want. >> tucker: that's the america that they are planning for us. outside chaz, good to see you. >> good to see you.

>> tucker: scott adams, the author of a new book called "loser think: how the untrained brains are ruining america," great to see you tonight. what do you make of this? you've lived in this country a long time, were you aware that you could create your independent nation within its borders? >> aware of it, i was inspired by it. i turned my house into an autonomous zone. two days and i'm having problems, running out of food and the u.n. wouldn't accept me unless i denounce israel and take my name from scotland. apparently that's taken. i'm quite interested in their experiment. in all seriousness i am completely in favor of them trying this out because it's going to be the world's greatest learning experience. the first thing they learn is hey, i think we need some kind of a police force. then they learned, may be some kind of a border and you know what would really be good? food and some kind of a system to make money to get that food. i think we should be looking for

reproducing little tests around the country. this is a bad one because they took over other people's stuff in their territory. i think they can kind of say some reparations later. if you did a test and picked a place, planted from the ground up and build a system that's not racist, that gives us every thing we need, i'd love to see that. because some of the experiments about getting rid of the police are changing into a police-like structure, a little less of the gun stuff and more of the service of stuff, i'd like to see how that works, how do you move forward unless you test stuff? i'm quite open-minded about it. >> tucker: let me ask you, i'm struck by the people building this new society and the ones marching through our streets demanding that we all build a new society. almost without exception have no skills. these are people who have never

created anything, never done anything, many don't have jobs, they seem like the most helpless and least impressive people in our society, shouldn't your society kind of defer to the people who are creating things and adding to the sum total or no? >> that's the learning experience. there is some things you can't learn from listening to people and watching tv and reading a book, the fact that they are living there and are actually building their own little city or town or country, whatever it is -- they had to figure out how to make it work and it is slowly dawning on them that they would end up recreating all the systems that they oppose. because nobody has a better idea, that's how they evolved to where they were in the first place but i'm all in favor, like i say, a lot of our systems were designed before the internet. are you telling you we can't design a better policing system, still with some police, you still need some muscle sometimes, you can design

something that's better using all the technology that's been designed since the first police officer or a badge? >> tucker: i guess i would just say, this isn't really that, it's not an experiment because the infrastructure and the food, everything one needs to live is being supplied by the adults outside. this really is like setting up a model country in your parent's garage. right? why don't they go out into the desert of nevada and build a country? >> i think that's where they should go. what they learned from this is that you can't take over something that was built for some other purpose for all kinds of reasons. it doesn't work, someone else owns it, somebody's going to kick you out eventually so -- i think that's exactly where they should go, they should propose, let's build something, maybe we can get people to leave us alone and see if it works. but i don't think you would try those same things.

there is some amount of creativity that could lower the clock do a of living, maybe security camera systems, some kind of organized neighborhood watch. in fact, my neighborhood is doing that now. my neighborhood is putting in cameras and organizing neighborhood watch. >> tucker: scott, great to see you. thanks so much. >> before we go to the break, we have been tough on the rioters and looters but we want to be fair and give you both sides. this is a photograph i our friend, a frequent guest on our show, spray-painted in downtown manhattan that says "david deserve scorn." yes, it's vandalism, obviously, we are against that but it's also true. david fro from the "atlantic"

magazine does deserve scorn, a lot of it. the awfulness may be the only thing the left and right still agree on in this country, we will be back. ♪

>> tucker: increasingly, american police are treated as an invading army. in minneapolis, rioters invaded and burned down a police precinct building. in response to the scum of the city council did not support the police, they blame to the police and vowed to disband the entire police department. police shows "live pd" and "cops" have been canceled and berklee music has issued a formal policy for the crime of allowing uniformed police officers to use the men's room. at berkeley college of music the bathrooms are segregated, it

turns out. the mostly peaceful protesters made it clear how they felt. [sirens] >> no! >> tucker: miami, by the way, is one of the few remaining american cities where the city leaders don't hate their own city and themselves so they allow to the police to respond with force to force as they ought to be allowed to do. but it doesn't change the fact that police everywhere are getting an awful lot of hatred directed at them and under these circumstances you shouldn't be shocked to learn a lot of police are thinking of doing and something else. police major travis he ate wrote a very moving essay about that. he joins us tonight. thanks so much. >> thank you for having me having me. >> tucker: you wrote a piece that has gone around it, some of

our viewers have seen it, i found it really bracing and essentially you said, why would people want to continue doing this? summarize what you wrote if you would. >> it's pretty wild, i wrote that monday night late and it was almost like god was with me when i wrote it, it just flowed in about nine or 10 minutes and quite honestly when i got done with that i wasn't sure i liked it and i uploaded it and i called my editor the very next morning and said, we have to think about maybe taking that down, right? and of course he didn't take it down and the rest is history. i think i was pulling the emotions from officers around the country and what they're feeling. officers are afraid to speak out, they are afraid to talk. you are your next fall away from being canceled or destroyed, officers feel very limited. i think citizens do, too and we had just as many citizens comment on that article and send us emails. >> tucker: you say in the piece, i'm sure there are clearly cops who shouldn't be cops and are there for the wrong

reasons but your profile seems more comment to me, the son of a cop, you always wanted to do it, you really believe in the job but you're not getting rich doing it. are you going to continue doing it? are your friends who are police officers going to continue doing it? what effect does is going to have? >> as everybody knows, they found no evidence of wrongdoing and ferguson even though the narrative is right you are quite different. morale was low during that time period and we kind of came out of that, we were making a resurgence in recent years ends and this has been devastating, every department, every officer you talk to is looking to leave. some of them can't, they have families and jobs. the officers with 10-550 15 yeas that can't leave yet. i've heard from hundreds of people that love the job, they love the community, they love the people but all the chaos is wearing them every single day. >> tucker: what kind of people

are going to want to become cops? if we did this to the navy seals, the navy seals are evil, presumably impressive people wouldn't want to be navy seals. only the worst people will want to become a police officer. >> it's really, when you think about it, the only profession that is still kind of cool to discriminate against. we are supposed to just sit there and take it, the article talked about that and it's really amazing what they expect, human beings to put up with and it takes a toll on our men and women and i've seen that in our eyes and there's only so long you can do that so we've got to have the risk enough to do it and right now the risk is too high and it's a struggle because they want to's day, they want to have a job but they have to look at the risk that the very next day they could be destroyed for doing everything right. >> tucker: yeah, people calling you racist for no reason? the police are important, we need good police, we should do everything we can to weed out the bad ones but support the

good ones and make sure good people want to become cops. last question to you, major yates, are you optimistic at all about the future of law enforcement? how worried are you? >> i'm extremely concerned, you mentioned racist earlier and the bar has been set so low and that's really concerning, it's the worst thing you can call a police officer. i could be the most hated police officer in america right now because i had the audacity to talk about, i did not believe there was systematic racism. i have the data to show it and what happened was because that narrative was completely against what other narratives are, they twisted what i said and said i think we should kill more black people. it's just outrageous. it's absolutely outrageous, they destroyed me and my family so the risks are so extreme, it's very much struggle but i pray that the profession can come back, we came back once before about this almost seems like too much. >> tucker: feels that way to me, too. we are proud to have you on,

you've taken a lot of criticism, i think it's unfair and we are happy to have you on the show. thanks. >> thank you. >> tucker: much of america has reopened now from a coronavirus and in some states cases are rising. is that a reason to panic? you may have heard it is. dr. marc siegel assesses this after the break. ♪

♪ >> tucker: coronavirus lockdowns are ending and in some states new cases are rising. is that a problem for the country? what does it mean, exactly? fox medical contributor marc siegel joins us tonight. hey, doctor. >> hi, tucker. two months ago today, april 12, 2020, was a dark day for america. that day, we first went ahead in italy and the number one country in the world in terms of deaths from covid-19, we became number one. that day was also easter sunday, a very dark day for america. luckily, it's in the rearview mirror and we can look back at it and hopefully and i believe tonight i can tell you, i think

the worst is over but we have to look at lessons learned. what have we learned? we learned that hospitals can't be overwhelmed, we learned we need a lot of testing for covid-19 in the united states, that our contact tracing that we had to track who is in contact with the people that get it and we learned about not to overreact to a single positive test, we learned to protect our most vulnerable populations. i want to tell you tonight, i think florida seems to have learned those lessons into your headline, the number of positive tests are going up in florida because they are testing more. the percentage of positive tests is not going up, i think that's reassuring in florida where my parents are but arizona i am concerned about, arizona has some problems, there's more hospitalizations going on, bars and gems that are open, not enough social distancing at pools, not enough social distancing at restaurants. the native american population is at risk because of diabetes

and other problems and not being looked after enough, nursing homes, we talked about that on the show here tucker, nursing homes in arizona worried me because there is not enough infection control so i say to arizona tonight, learn from where new york went other than the nursing home which was a horrible blight here, learn from wisconsin which has been open for a month, tucker, and has done very, very well because of social distancing and testing. learn from wisconsin, arizona, learn from florida and i hope they learn those lessons because so far they haven't reached to the surge capacity at the hospitals and i want to keep it that way. overall, the news in the united states stays good. finally, a message to my parents tonight down in florida, you heard me talk about my father on the show, they are doing well, hunker down. i'm going to send them a message. we are coming for you soon, it's almost time. tucker? >> tucker: marc siegel, thanks so much for that.

good to see you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: america cities have a lot of problems, rioting, homeless encampments have been there for a while, coronavirus. soon they want to police. why live there? the revival of rural america is on the way. that's the answer. ♪

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>> tucker: if you lived in a big american city over the last year, you might feel want to get out now. people are miserable and matted, you may be dreaming about moving out of the city to somewhere past doral, rural america. he was a star of apprentice, he ran for congress, thanks so much

for coming on. your story is the story that i think a lot of people are dreaming about, i want to get out of manhattan but what is there for me to do? what is there for people to do outside of the city? >> tucker, there has never been a better time to move to rural america. i think people have a conception that moving out of the country reduces opportunity, but if you have an optimistic revival, positive mentality, you can find a niche like i did, and whiskey for example where you can take advantage of the immense bounty of this country, from sea to sea and the china coast where you can have happiness and community in all these good things. this is an opportunity to reassess that. you can move out and you can

find a niche in rural america. >> people are thinking, there is no workforce. you built this company was opaque and you hired company to work for you, how hard is that? >> it's a challenge in the city, and again i go back to the revivalist mentality, and if you have the right mentality will attract the right people. you are able to coalesce them and bring them to bear on the project at hand. so it starts with the mind-set. if you have the positive mind-set, and you are going out and have come to the country. >> would you ever move back to the big city or move back to manhattan or san francisco? >> for basic health and safety there is no way i would move back to a big city, no question about it.

>> so you are not surprised that real estate places, >> they are coming out and it's a great thing. it's a much better quality of life, for raising families, to homeschool your kids if you want to. if you get a little dirt under your fingernails and again, find the opportunity. find the opportunity like the brandy that i'm launching which is phenomenal, and it sold out at its first release. if you look and you pay attention, you stay open to the signs where the opportunity is, it's all over this country and it's the greatest country in the world. >> tucker: i believe that, you don't have to live like this. people are waking up to that fact. >> and i want to say as a minority, i was a little afraid to come on your show but i wanted to tell you and other

white people that i remain friends is a minority. >> tucker: [laughs] rate to see you, thanks so much for that. that's it for us tonight. we will keep tabs on chaz over the weekend, see you monday. ♪ >> sean: welcome to "hannity" live on this busy news breaking friday. tonight so much to cover, including forgetful joe's shifting recollection on civil rights issues. also we will bring you a hannity history lesson on the real democratic party and the disgusting hypocrisy on the issue of race in america. and, we have shocking new footage, violence against police and the chaos continues and all big cities across america. first, we turn to breaking news