>> hello everyone, i am dana perino along with juan williams, greg gutfeld, jesse watters, it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the fiv five." president trump telling seattle leaders to shut down the police free zone, he will. if the president calling out democratic politicians after hundreds of protesters took over a section of the city and after police abandon a precinct. >> we are not going to let seattle be occupied by anarchists and i'm not calling

the protesters -- i got to see a performance that i've never seen, you think he was a weak person in minneapolis, the woman has she ever done this before? if they were tough, they wouldn't have the kind of devastation that you have in minneapolis and in seattle. see what's going on in seattle, i will tell you if they don't straighten that out we are to straighten it out. >> his comments coming amid reports of armed guards and extortion in the so-called autonomous zone. the protesters making a list of demands including defunding the police, degentrification, and free college. at the mayor is pushing back against criticism. watch. >> gathering and expressing first amendment rights, demanding we do better as a society and providing true equity for communities of color is not terrorism. it is patriotism.

we've got four blocks in seattle that you just saw pictures of that is more like a block party atmosphere, it's not an armed takeover. we have block parties in this part of seattle all the time, it's known for that. we could have a summer of love. >> i got to go to you, kennedy. you know this part of the world for. what do you think? >> i grew up in portland, i lived in seattle, i love the weirdo atmosphere but this has gone so far beyond that. what you're seeing is totalitarian takeover of people who want a one-party state, there is no longer a freedom of expression or free exchange of ideas. and it's interesting because you talk about degentrification what does that mean? how do you write something like that down if you're passing something through the city council? how does a local government

mandate something like degentrification? that's the problem with the broad term, they ultimately have fascist outcomes and it actually reminds me of greg's second book "not cool" where people are beholden to the mob, and they no longer think for themselves. it's no longer about individual rights, freedom of expression or anything like that. you're really just doing everything to appease a group of people to whom you want to appear cool and that's what seattle's mayor reminds me of. >> greg, you are not necessarily a reader of crystal balls but you did see that coming, now all of a sudden this theory of what could happen if they got their way is now happening in seattle. >> i might blow my horn now, predicted council culture, not cool predicted this kind of revolutionary change.

you can't make demands when you are succeeding, this is not a divorce. you are leaving the country, the demands are off the table. i'm going to be fair, the bad thing about this if they are doing it on other people's property. that's wrong, the good thing is they are experimenting, they are putting their money which they have none where their mouth is. so if they actually do okay, maybe they can get some land and leave us alone. i respect them more than the people like john legend who are pushing for defunding the police from their gated mansions, at least these freaks are going out and giving it a shot. the thing that is lost on the left and kennedy mentioned it, places where there is little order is not freedom, it's actually the least for you could be. if you go to sudan, it's ruled by criminals and warlords because they have no security. by the way, an update, i haven't

checked in with human resources about the fox news warlord. i'm waiting to see the health benefits, it's hard and you are pillaging and the 401(k) package which i am investing in hemp and tech ttattoo ink. >> keep us informed on warlord negotiations. i'm curious about the idea, some of the things that they come up with like a demand for free college, everybody's demand. somebody like joe biden is already said we will head in that direction, i don't understand how the whole free college thing works in this scenario. why would the mayor be able to give that to them. >> i don't think the mayor can give that to them, dana, i think this is an expression of young people who are frustrated at the high cost of higher education in this country.

this is all, to me, just a political play and it's morally selective outrage by a president who wants to paint these young people as anarchists and terrorists and they are terrible people, and in fact they are young people as the mayor said are engaged in things like poetry readings, free speech, art, in seattle and the mayor said it's lawful. she is supporting it, as you just heard. trump wants to turn them into bad guys, and you know why? then he can play dirty harry, he can dominate them. these are a bunch of kids! but he needs something at this moment, i didn't hear the right wing echo chamber go off in 2016 when you had actual armed men takeover federal property in oregon and threaten people and interfere with federal workers, then there were crickets. i think there's a lot of hypocrisy here, i think trump

knows he's not doing well in handling these. >> you also play down what was going on, whenever there was like there is largely a protest, just a few bad apples, the hypocrisy can be spread evenly. >> wait a second, i do think this has been overwhelmingly peaceful, legitimate protests about outrageous situations. >> jesse, did you know that this idea for an autonomous zone apparently they are going to try it in nashville? the governor saying that's not happening, but the mayor i don't know what he said so far, but he's been out there with protesters but won't let someone like john rich's little kids play in the little league game this weekend. it's not just this little six block area, it could actually spread. >> i don't see john rich tolerating an autonomous zone in nashville.

no, i don't think it's going to go over too well with people in tennessee. coming back up for second? if greg is a warlord at fox, that is the softest coup we've ever witnessed in world history. why is everybody kissing his so badly? his ego is as big as trump's at this point, does he need more stroking? he does not. and to juan's point, i've never seen a peaceful protest injure 700 officers, and cause hundreds of millions of $ in property damage. as someone who does not consider themselves that mature, when jesse watters feels more mature than elected mayors and governors of state, we have a real problem on our hands. you would let your children lock themselves in a room in your

house and start making demands of their parents, you'd kick the door down and they would be grounded for the rest of the summer. this is not sleepless in seattle, this is spineless in seattle. this might be the worst thing to come out of seattle since grunge. i don't say this lightly. >> walked back jesse watters. you do not have the right to talk about seattle music, grunge or anything in the 90s. this movement allows the city council and the mayor who is conveniently not paying attention to the homeless crisis, homelessness and in a wealthy city like seattle has gotten out of control and now they don't have to address that because they can talk about the summer of love. i guess homelessness is just camping, never mind the women and the vulnerable who are sexually assaulted in situations like that, according to the seattle chief of police talking

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>> the media keeps making excuses for anarchy, watch as they downplay coverage of the chaos in seattle and attempt to spin the radical takeover of the area. >> the so-called autonomous zone now complete with barricades, a clinic, and free food. almost a street fair like atmosphere with free food, art displays, and outdoor movie nights. all these people in the street, food being served, there's a medical tent, people are camping out. there's live music at night. they are watching movies. >> but the seattle police chief is painting a much different picture, watch. >> these are the responses to the emergence of robbery, all

sorts of violent crimes have been occurring in the area we are able to get to. >> greg, this is an interesting opportunity to look at fake news because during the whole russia scandal they could say what ever they wanted about collusion and you couldn't see it. now that we are seeing live pictures of not so peaceful protesters, or chaos in seattle, to watch the media tried to say you're not really looking at this, you're looking at something to the different is a little drawing. jarring. >> saying the riots in new york city were a big light, the garbage can was replaced the next day so there were really no big riots or anything because it's just a blip, forget about the fact 45 450 businesses were destroyed, anything that undermines their profit design

which is profit, i.e. conflict. riots are played down in demonstrations, looting has a racist connotation according to an old white male at the "los angeles times" which is an example of the bigotry of low expectations come up when you assume that looting means black. i wonder if the media wants a race war, one chris cuomo claims that trump supporter's are looking at the people begging for change should be put down, when you say put down what does that mean? i don't think he means insult. >> that was a little over-the-top. what do you think about greg's point was to mark he referenced the "los angeles times" executive editor, he says leader is racist as a word. should be called a liberating someone else's property? >> it's criminal call it for what it is. i'm not in that conversation, i

am in this conversation. we saw the images of a local reporter in the middle of that seattle processed. no violence, no chaos, and you said to the viewers you can see for yourself cared what they see for themselves is peaceful activity. >> look for yourself. >> i kept getting interrupted by people. >> i don't see anything, i didn't read or heard of any craziness. to my mind, look, the big point here is there is no evidence of antifascist groups being organized in any of these movements, all the arrests all over the country after all these protests two straight weeks, no evidence of any organized political effort except for white supremacist posing as an tivo to try to start up trouble.

>> that's not a good look. >> men were beating up women. >> hang on greg, he's looking for a boogie man, he thought he had it with that 75-year-old in buffalo which he tried to paint as some kind of terrorist, this guy -- >> -- >> one says he hasn't read or seen anything that is troubling in this autonomous zone, there have been multiple reports about armed guards shaking down business owners, there's been fires, they won't let police in, i have a feeling if they took over a section of seattle, there would be tanks rolling in.

>> it would become a lester holt would be there to cover for su sure. that's how big the story would be, the networks would send anchors to cover it. i don't know if you will remember a book a few years ago there was a journalist who took a leave from her job to do a book, she called it nickel and dime, she worked low-wage jobs for a year and wrote about the experience. so perhaps some of these reporters think that it's no big deal and the summer of love, maybe they should go and live amongst them and get a book contract and tell us how it goes at the end. the other thing i would say is seattle is a beautiful place in the summer. it has the most wonderful place to visit. who in the world would go and buy a ticket to want to go to seattle right now? it's not just that they are having a block party, i think

it's hurting the entire city, the region, if you are thinking of expanding business why would you do with their? i think the imprecations of this will be greater than we know from the summer of love. you can downplay it all you want, but you just saw the police chief on tape saying call times are delayed, they can't respond to assault or burglaries or battery, i don't see a lot of love there. >> how are they protecting certain people in the city who are in the autonomous zone? i think we should be listening to the chief of police in seattle, because here is an intersectional woman, she happens to be a woman of color, a woman and a male dominated profession where a lot of her white male counterparts have been videotaped bringing harm and death to primarily black m

men. those are the catalyst for a lot of these protests, and the climate hasn't gotten any better. i think she comes from an interesting place, and i think maybe we should put a little bit more weight in her words right now. i still don't understand how this resolves itself when you have the left essentially cannibalizing itself. you have a media that is now being populated by college kids who are bubble wrapped in their own safe zone and now they are adults working in journalists the vmax journalism, the truth is compromised and has become a subjective narrative and will ow more and more subjective. if you have the black lives matter movement being overtaken by this, where does the media put more importance as the left cannibalizing itself? >> great name. up next, americans pushing back

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>> welcome back, the majority of americans not on board with calls to defund the police. 64% saying they opposed the movement in a new poll. president trump slamming the idea will also backing the idea of police reform here to take a look. >> i want to see really compassionate but strong law enforcement, police force but law enforcement. i don't like choke holds i think the concept sounds innocent and perfect but then you realize it's 211 and that is a different

story. with that being said it would be a very good thing that should be ended. let me begin with you on that point, you saw in the interview with harris faulkner the president saying he thinks that choke hold can be innocent but he thinks they should be ended. what do you think? >> i think he's totally right, i think this president has a very firm grip on reality. you don't obviously want to come up from behind and slap a joke on someone until he passes out. if you are in a scuffle with a guy, you might just need to gain a little leverage in like a wrestling move scenario until you have backup. it's obviously a case by case basis, but yes you don't want to use a choke hold in general. i had four police reform ideas. defund the traffic police. they need to stop with the tickets, there's too many people

walking around this city handing out parking tickets. enough. the second thing is mandatory body cams, they pay for themselves, i don't care how expensive it is. three, beef up internal affairs, tripled the internal affairs budget. that way you can smoke out the bad apples. you can sued the police officers but you're not allowed to sue the teachers or the mayor or the guy that's running the subway, if the police can be sued everyone working for the city can be sued. instead of that, when you appoint an arbitrator to make sure someone gets a step back a disciplinary action make it shown that the police union can and point thei appoint their ow. >> greg, as you said the post saying most americans don't buy into the stuff, what they do like is police reform of the

type that jesse was just talking about. where are you on police reform? >> like jesse, i have three solutions. the broader criticism of the police if that it's a monoculture. the monoculture, it lacks different perspectives and so you focus on the crisis point it's police and young black men. the solution isn't police versus young black men, it's police and young black men. black men shouldn't take the police, they should be the police. and the only way to kind of like undo a monoculture is to introduce unique perspectives. and what unique perspectives young black men would have in the police force because they would be able to communicate better in their own community. nypd has done a good job with this, minneapolis not so good but they were trying paired i also like number two the national placement misconduct

database, it introduced statistics to people who avoid them. the media, democrats, what happens if those numbers undermine the narrative. i'm interested in seeing that, my final solution was we need to decriminalize all drugs. legalize, monetize, quantify because so much crime is due to suspect and cops resisting arrest because people are high, they are victims of their own substance abuse, if you can create viable products that are quantified so people could handle the oblivion if they choose, executives have and should be able to understand what he is putting into his body so cops don't end up in violent confrontations because they can't control somebody and the person isn't aware of what he's doing. those are three constructive solutions.

>> thank you, thank you. hey kennedy, one of the things that surprised a lot of people this week is the tremendous rise in support of the black lives matter movement. and i wonder if the president is not missing something in terms of a huge cultural shift taking place in the country right now and risking that he gets left behind. >> there is a shift, a much larger conversation happening and part of that is layers of frustration because the once of the protesters has not been met and we seen it in instance after instance. right now what both sides need and what both sides are lacking is curiosity. you have really a straight up fascism going throughout the far left where they want to shut down any opinion that's not theirs, the president has been getting other aspects of criminal justice reform and i think when he looks at this

issue this larger issue through that lens and has a conversati conversation, and does a little bit more internalizing that would be good. but also in terms of defund the police versus police reform, police reform and talking about reforming public-sector unions is a great conversation to have. when you have a series of specifics that people are putting forward like jesse and greg, the mayors of waters and got filled, if you have that versus something as broad and nebulous as defund the police that is bad, specifics are good. that's where we need to go. >> i want to go live in mayor danaville. his trumpet missing out? >> in danaville, dogs would have leash free policy in the park which would be something.

no more tickets for dogs being walked off the leash, that would be one thing. the president doesn't understand there is a possibility like nixon goes to china moment, he has that ability. he is not ideological. not a typical politician, we keep hearing that and i feel like sometimes he should trust his instincts to go ahead and listen. he is a great convene him he has the power to convene and some people have the client to meet with him. he is willing to listen, he once to get things on. done. i feel like if they could do a do over they would try and do that, after we come to an end we can all remember the memory of george floyd and think about moving forward together as americans united in the ideals of this country that our founding fathers established for us. >> you're the best, dana peered

straight ahead, democrats being accused of hypocrisy for condemning trump rallies after they backed the protests. stay with us to hear that story on "the five." (music)

♪ >> democrats in the media who cheered on the protests over george floyd now say trump rallies pose a coronavirus risk. and joad biden fumbling while trying to attack president trump for holding a riley. watch. >> he's going down on juneteenth, first major massacre literally speaking of the black wall street years ago. he's going to have a rally. >> all right, president trump with some words for sleepy joe biden.

>> joe is not all there, everybody knows it. and it's sad when you look at it and you see it for yourself. he's created his own tension where a city in the basement of wherever he is, he doesn't come out. >> one, obviously joe biden is going to continue to have these problems and these gaffes becaue these are two critically important events. and he is jumbling them into one thing. what can you do with your biden problem? >> i don't feel like we have a biden problem. i don't think the american people think there is. if you want to create a problem, i can try to help you out but i don't see a big one here. i think lots of people might get confused about what happened in terms of tulsa and the riots in the early 20th century, i don't

know. but i do think when it comes to this argument about trump in his rallies, versus the protest in the streets and the common threat of coronavirus is an important distinction to be made which is that i think the protests were organic, what trump is talking about is something that is planned and you would think that he wouldn't want his people to get sick. i understand they haven't laid out all the terms yet, maybe they'll have consent forms and the like for people who come to attend but we know the president doesn't like to social distance, he doesn't like the mask, we know this was the problem with north carolina, he didn't want social distancing and the governor there said there has to be it. it's going to be a problem, i imagine they will try to keep their people safe. >> jesse, the democrat party is obviously the party of science. except the part when it comes to the coronavirus and transmissi transmission, the coronavirus

now has its own intelligence. and it can choose to attack people who go to republican rallies and it can choose to abstain from hurting people who go to protests because that's clearly what the science is saying if you listen to the hypocrisy about public gathering. the coronavirus really that picky? >> it's an invisible enemy and an intelligent enemy. to his point, a three week protest is pretty plan. people plan to leave their house and go outside with 20,000 people. maybe organic the first night but the next three weeks after that it's pretty planned. are we really doing this, are we really going to pretend like we didn't just have three weeks in the media of people saying it's okay to get out there in the crowd? and then literally 24 hours later, it's not okay?

one trump does it? like what? you can't get away with that, are we serious supposed to believe that they are now really concerned about transmission? no, it's because they know these rallies are blockbusters and it's how trump and the base gets the juices flowing and they're not going to look very good next to joe biden's little sleepy rallies. so they are just trying to kneecap them and pretend it's in the interest of public health. we are not falling for it. >> i think that's what happened, a lot of people saw protesters out unmasked close to each other and you could be attacked with tear gas, what do people do when they are faced with tear gas? that cough, cough all over each other and talk about super-spreader's, that was the perfect storm. now what do you have come up what you have going forward? was the lock on simply a political tool to harm the

economy so the president is not reelected, if there is no lockdown and they show we can all interact and hire people and spend money, isn't that good news becaus? >> i think the irony of it is i can't remember the first day of the protest, it might've been last week monday. i believe i said this on the show of the shutdown is over because once everybody saw everybody going out my we knew that was the last day. you could not explain this logically to everybody else, who was held captive under house arrest. one of the great things the protest did was open the doors for everybody, once they took off the shutdown was over so the protest had a lot of good things, a lot of bad things like riots and looting but the good thing was it allowed all of us to leave. the protests are good, the rallies are bad, according only

to the media. the protests energize to the media, but the rallies make the media feel really bad because at something they can't control, they can't control the narrative. >> dana, what is the good news here? >> i would point to something the media really focused on the fact that there will be a waiver that you sign if you want to attend the trump rally, you can sign a waiver that says i could get coronavirus if i come to this rally. when they move forward to work with congress on the stimulus bill, that they do offer litigation protection for businesses because that is what the president is going to need at his rallies and i think it's obvious to everyone that in order to get the economy going more quickly, you have to protect these businesses. >> very good. fan mail friday, that's up next. stay with us. ♪

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fan mail friday, a question from heidi. who is your favorite sibling music group meant a band that has siblings, not your sibling. i know you have on kennedy. >> hansen. >> terrible choice but okay. how about you, jesse? >> jackson five. >> that's okay. kind of strange, but did and well. >> jesse took my answer, that's what i was thinking. i don't know who else i would call on. i guess sister sledge or something like that. >> i saw you as an everly brothers but maybe i'm wrong. >> i like the everly brothers. >> i couldn't come up with one, i was going to say milli vanilli because i couldn't pick up anything else. i know that they explained that come at pointer sisters.

>> that didn't end well either. kennedy i think you will be impressed with my choices, i was going to say but you know what, and mary jane. boards of canada, the replacements kennedy. the stinson's. from french firecracker, there is an old friend. what has someone borrowed from you but never given back, keep it clean dana. >> i can't think of anything. i don't have anything worth borrowing. >> that's a terrible thing to say. >> my answer was going to be people take books and i never see them again. they say they're bringing the back, i don't care take the

book. >> movies too. jesse, your the power to the mic to thyou are the power.i don't u should see my basement. >> i just may. kennedy? >> my loyalty and undying infection. affection. somebody stole my golf clubs and i'm not going to say who it is because it's not worth mentioning your stupid name, my dad's golf clubs. not my dad but the guy who stole them. "one more thing" is up next. we learned so much.

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tried to open up the economy. greg. speak of "the greg gutfeld show" tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. i have a very good show. the guy who predicted "the greg gutfeld show" would be canceled in a year on the second show, we are having him on. let's do this quickly. ♪ ♪ animals are great it's been a pretty stressful time, maybe we need a little massage. pick out this little guy giving his other furry friend a nice back massage. i think that's a swedish stage, doesn't like it. you have to figure out the tension level and just keep at it, pretty soon it all works o out. >> super cute, i need a cat like that. >> jesse. >> i don't think jasper can do

this, dana. take a look at this talented dog. i don't know who is walking who. >> that's crazy. that's so wrong. that's a trick, i don't know if i can teach. speaking of tricks, waters world at 8:00 p.m. saturday night we have rudy giuliani who i will not be busting, and someone from chaz who has been reporting from the new country in seattle to tell us what it's really like there. tonight on waters world and saturday. we've got a little over time, about 20 seconds for you. >> do you guys believe that a 6-year-old can fly? take a look at nicholas, the arizona boy started putting together wooden airplanes for fun during the pandemic and then he started selling them around

the country at creations by nicholas. it went great, way to fly nicholas! >> all right, kennedy we owe you a drink. ♪ pete: we begin this saturday morning with a fox news alert. the minneapolis city council unanimously votes to abolish its police department in the wake of george floyd's death. >> council members deciding to dismantle the force and replace it with a community led public safety system. jedediah: similar calls growing nationwide as leaders in new york city push their defunding plan that would cut nypd's budget by $1 billion. that's $1 billion, guys. welcome toe "fox & friends" this 6:00 a.m. hour. we are here, obviously with pete hegseth. griff jenkins. can't see you yet but i will in a second. we will be breaking dn