>> really? five seconds, that's okay. >> sean: i like to hit the post. >> hannity, i cannot wait until the debate. don't you get the sense -- >> super bowl ratings. >> i'm not sure they are going to happen. >> sean: joe is going to try to get the debates. he is a two body men?

>> lauren: i'm just saying, something will occur that will make it less likely that multiple debates happen, if any debates happen. that is my prediction, but i could be wrong. >> sean: that would be unfair to the country, that can't happen. >> lauren: as if they care about that, at this point. it was a fascinating interview, because i missed the last 10 minutes, but i go back and listen to it. >> sean: have a great show. >> lauren: i'm laura ingraham, this is "the ingraham angle" from los angeles tonight, and a shockingly political speech, the fulton county district attorney charge former atlanta police officer garrett rolfe with 11 counts in the death of rayshard brooks. the charges include felony murder and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. that has convicted, carried the possibility of life in prison or the death penalty. tonight, in an inclusive interview, rolfe's lawyer will be here to present his case and explain why the d.a. was not telling the truth. also, raymond arroyo will bring a shocking crime caught on tape,

plus, who is the bravest celebrity in hollywood? "seen and unseen" has the answers. but first, four years of punishment. that is the focus of tonight's "angle." all right, never-trumpers and mainstream democrats have tried to convince independent voters that a joe biden victory in november -- it will just get us back to some sense of normalcy. i'm here tonight to tell you, nothing could be further from the truth. now, all you need to do is watch, i don't know, three or 4 minutes of biden speaking live on almost any subject, and you will know he is extremely weak. at best, he will be a figurehead president, and without the physical, mental, or intellectual strength to stand up to the radicals on the left, whatever sense he had will be quickly overwhelmed. right now, the most extreme

elements on the left are emboldened, you can see it and feel it, they have cultural problem, straight energy, now they have money. almost 30 years ago, bill clinton stood up to them. he had his sister soldier moment, remember 1992? 1992? any cultural marxists were kept at bay during the obama years by the sheer force of his place in history. biden has no such aura. they are going to treat him as they treat someone like, i don't know, ralph northam. you either give us what we want, or we are going to make your life miserable. and biden will give them what they want. that's the bad news for the rest of us. now, more than ever, we need a president with courage to stand up to the hard left. because if they get power, they will make americans suffer through intimidation and bullying campaigns. disagree with them, and you'll be branded a racist. and if you're black and you disagree with them, you are just

an uncle tom. it's disgraceful, what is going on, and it is already happening. the idea that a president biden would return america to some quaint, imagined past, is a dangerous fantasy. if he wins, the hard left wins. and that means that the culture wars are going to get a lot worse than they are right now. his administration will use the full reach of the executive branch to torment all political and cultural enemies. anyone who has a traditional view of american history or, let's say, christians, jews, muslims, all will be marked for publish mend. statues coming down, that will be the least of our problems. their aim is to pull down our whole culture. the american founding, western civilization, and everything that sprang from it. remember what reverend jeremiah

wright said? >> no, no, no! not god left america, god damn america! >> laura: from their way of thinking, anything you earned is the product of a oppression, the poisonous fruit of the deadly american tree, "you didn't build that." now, it was foolhardy of colleges and universities to give so much power to these marxist, anti-american forces, but they did and it has happened over decades. but now, we are all going to p pay. look out, washington monument. that's likely to happen, the the washington monument is not going to come down. oh, really? it is starting to happen, any self-loathing, anti-americanism is infecting even high schools now. like the all girl school near nashville that announced it was ending its washington celebration

demonstrate the significant role women, people of color and other unrepresented group play in the nation's history and a growing number of students, faculty and staff and alumni are expressing their comfort with this tradition." discomfort with this tradition. this line of thinking is going to spread under president biden. many of his backers are embracing the historical view of what is called the 1619 project. it was published in "the new york times" magazine. now, the goal of the work is to reframe american history as beginning not in july 1776 when we declared our independence from britain, but from the year of the first were brought to virginia when it was a british colony. slavery is sometimes referred to as a country's original sin, but it is more than that. it is the country's very origin. out of slavery in the antiblack racism it required a grew nearly everything that has truly made america exceptional.

welcome of course slavery was an evil, horrific chapter in american history, and we should teach our children it's full, gruesome story, you bet, along with the fact that the republican party was founded as the abolitionist party. but instead, educational arsonists have agents inside powerful teachers unions and school boards and it's happening coast to coast. educators who contend the founding fathers were heroic and brilliant men are liable now to be shouted down as a racist or even apologist for segregation. now this is a deeply, cynical and dangerous view of american history. the office of the 1619 product or entitled to their own opinion about america for sure but not their own facts. prominent historians raise objections to the presentation of history by the time accusing the project of "a displacement of historical understanding by ideology."

here is another gem from them, on the american revolution the project asserts that the founders to clear the colonies independence of britain in order to ensure slavery would continue. this is not true! it is supporting the allegation would be astounding. some of the other materials in the project is distorted including the claim that "for the most part, black americans have fought their freedom struggles alone." again, this is all from the renowned historians. despite those very big, bold, red flags, school districts in chicago and washington, d.c., and newark and beyond or completely overhauling the curriculum to incorporate the 1619 project and here is what is going on in buffalo, new york. the buffalo public schools will infuse 1619 project resources into the mainstream english and

social studies curriculum via new york state standards and alignment at grades seven through 12. these efforts will in turn render a true history of the institution of slavery for all students. a history which is often silenced in mainstream curriculum and textbooks. if biden wins in november, now this won't be relegated by the way to democrat-controlled studies to places like buffalo, no, it will be mandated nationally. biden's are soaking it in and already trying to level everything that came before us to settle scores. >> the united states didn't inherit anything from anybody we created it. >> the communities of color and indigenous communities are facing today is the direct result of 400 years of intentional decisions to create and sustain systems. >> through 400 years of american history, black oppression has always existed in this country,

just in different forms. >> vice president biden, we have to treat the wounds and we cannot just allow to scab over at. >> laura: remember this worldview is quite simple. there really is no revolution for america, only punishment and reckoning is coming. now, imagine the department of education going after schools and teachers who disagree with the 1619 project even though those were renowned historians who did. imagine the department of justice using the ideas of the project to decide who goes free and who gets prosecuted. imagine all the immense resources of the executive branch being used to but punish anyone who stands up to the hard left with an angry left wing media cheering all the way. if joe biden wins in november, you won't have to imagine much longer. but i'm here tonight to also tell you it's not too late.

we can and we must defeat these radicals who use biden as figurehead with anti-american agenda on the rest of us. and we have to teach american liberals to stop this crazy, radical program that captures the democratic party. the american people want peace and prosperity for people of all races and creed. they do not want poverty and punishment. we cannot only win this argument but in the process we will save our country. four more years of this worldview of joe biden will not only mean a lousy economy, it is going to usher in a period of prolonged antagonism toward each other and to the principles that made us the freest most prosperous nation on the planet. and that is "the angle." joining me now, dinesh d'souza and author of "united states of socialism" and also a new film called trump card. also with me cynthia garrett,

the founder of cynthia garrett's ministries and author of "i choose victory." dinesh, we were told for years the culture wars were a waste of time and a lot of economic conservatives, fiscal conservative said just focus on the free market and capitalism. but at this moment in time, we see why they were so important, just focusing for a moment on education and what is happening to our education system, explain. >> a lot of the thuggery, the gangster and knocking down of monuments, they unlawful occupations we see around us, this is all reflecting the radicalization of academia over the past couple of decades. one could almost say academia is the theory and antifa is the practice. and initially, they were the attacks on the federal monuments and people kind of look the other way, but it is really interesting to see how quick

they metastasize on washington, attacks on jefferson and most tellingly attacks on abraham lincoln. because right away we have a puzzle. here is america's greatest puzzle, the guy who freed the slaves and white pulled down his monument and go after him? i think the left secretly hates lincoln because lincoln was actually very effective in unmasking the democratic party. lincoln said very significantly about slavery, it is you work and i eat. for lincoln slavery was kind of an economic confiscation. lincoln saw that that is the core principle of the democratic party. well, fast forward 150 years and what is the core principle of the left and the democrats today, economic confiscation, if you work i eat. so lincoln had the number on the left. he had the number of the democrats, and he represented in some ways not only the republican spirit but the american spirit. >> laura: cynthia, you have seen what is happening in recent days and weeks.

i think a lot of people, i think righteous anger and i don't blame for a lot of people for being angry at what they are singing. i don't blame them at all, but the education system and what happened inside the education system, especially to young and under and underprivileged kids. i know you wrote about school choice and how that is lost in this equation. tell us about it. >> well, it is completely awesome and the reality is the whole 1619 project is a red herring. i think the real issue is that they want to give us african-americans miseducation, and what we need is good education. and that is why i write so much and passionately about the fact that we really need to focus on dismantling this mess of a public school system that for black and brown communities have and think if the parents the choice. let parents invest in their children's lives. our mind is our capital.

blacks want to own businesses and want to participate in this great country. and i think that focusing a bunch of energy on getting rid of a bunch of statues as if that will validate and help anyone to learn to do something that advanced himself is ridiculous. other than look at the victory. as a matter of fact, if we are to be dealing with education and getting rid of statutes, why don't we put the issue into focusing on more adam dj walker's and more jesse bingham and more reverent william brown, a former slave in 1888 started the first black bank in his home and in 1899 washington, d.c., given the charts, the bank charter. why don't we learn what we can do? why don't we focus on educating blacks and whites about what we have because then young people wouldn't be so hopeless.

because all i see, it's not anger and rage, laura might see hopelessness when i look at it. it is hopelessness and why? if you don't think you have a life. >> laura: i think you raise a good point. there are so many wonderful stories about the american experience. we are not perfect. nobody is. no country is, but you have written about it and sent and cynthia extensively about it and yet it is all spray paint land, burn, smash someone in the head, a bad cop story. that is what is seething inside young people instead of this is what i can do if i work hard, stay out of trouble, and some common sense which i could use some it sometimes, common sense. i want to read something from the fairfax school and very important school district outside of d.c. headline we need to have radical transformation, okay? there plans for antiracist curriculum.

we need to have a radical transformation of paradigm shift is a said many, many times yesterday against antiracist philosophy as opposed to all of us constantly saying we are not racist. and that is the chairperson sujatha hampton. this is the kind of education, you know, mumble jumble that satisfies people but does it create a single educational opportunity or business opportunity for young, underprivileged kids? >> they are not even serious about what they say. one figure who could teach them a lot about racism is in fact the greatest black american of our history and that would be frederick douglass. but frederick douglass name never comes up and why? he was the champion of the self made man. the best idea you can do for blacks is to leave them alone and watch them build up their own industries, their own families and so one. interestingly in chicago there is a tall statue to a man named

steve douglas, abraham lincoln's arrival. douglass was a champion of slavery. in fact, he made slavery the ideology of the democratic party. his statue and touched but lincoln is under attack. that is because the democrats ultimately referred douglass' ideology of enslavement to lincoln's ideology of liberation. >> laura: 15 seconds, cynthia and a short trip to have you back. are you hopeful about the future given what you have seen over the past month? are you still hopeful? look, i'm hopeful because i'm a woman of faith. at the end of the day, i thank god i'm in america because i travel all over the world to countries all over the place that have so much less than we do. but again that is about education. we need to really and truly wrestle out of the hands

people -- i mean, look, they have failed. all of us. and something has to radically change. >> cynthia, we will pick up where you left out because we will go right here l.a. unified. of thank you both for joining us. the left just doesn't want you to overhaul education but make less safe as it turns out. activists in l.a. and students are taking the lead in demanding an end to school safety and police officers. watch. >> i think a lot of the students at the lsu stool still targeted. >> i don't think we need police on campus. any sort of issues, i think the teachers and administrators can result. >> what we need is support. we need psw. we need courage counselors. we need space to create domain creative expression. >> laura: rudy perez a officer for elite school police department and vice president of the national association for resource officers. sergeant perez, is the plan really to protect kids with what?

social workers? what about all the schools with gang violence? >> that is absolutely true. thank you for having me on tonight. that is absolutely true. who was going to respond to the thousands, 153,000 calls of emergencies we received in their organization alone, but like i tell you the vice president of the national association for police officers, i keep asking the question, who is going to come? who is going to be responding to the emergencies? who will respond to the guns and the things we have to deal with with properly trained officers, properly selected officers? this is definitely a word. all of a sudden, we became the money after feeding 60 million meals in a unified district. it is very disheartening to see where we are out. >> laura: sergeant perez, if you could point to one reason why this is happened, and it seems to have happen quite quickly with this attack on

foundational institutions in our country, such as the desire to keep schools safe with resource officers. these are not l.a.p.d. but resource school officers. what one thing do you think is to blame? >> i have to tell you this, i will say this, there is a bunch of amazing teachers that have called this a better standing with this radical, moral that we are living and in the teachers union. i'm talking about the ut l.a. to come and attack us and take our budget is absolutely ridiculous. once again, i just say, who's going to do the job? everybody keeps saying hope and opportunity. hope and opportunity will not stand in the front while i hold somebody's head because they have a bullet in their mind. grab them and put them in the ambulance. thank god we save them. >> laura: sergeant, didn't you just hit on it. the last question here. there is a $70 million budget.

and these teachers unions and these other groups, they want that honeypots. they think that is their honeypot. it will be used for social justice, various causes and other affiliated groups. what does that mean? how does that keep someone safe, or how do you become the mentor and many of you are because i've had a chance to talk to you, many of you are mentors to these kids. they want the honeypots. they want the money. >> it is sad to me because how quickly did we forget parkland. how quickly did we forget, you know sandy hook, virginia tech, columbine? how quickly do we say, okay, they don't matter anymore. all lives matter just like the 53 lives that the officers in los angeles won medals for life-saving. all of those lights have mattered now. now my question goes back to it is disheartening. but i can tell you this and i hope the media is captioning it. i hope the media is looking deep

and if we talk about funding, i hope they come in and see what the teachers union with leadership. >> laura: i will come if i'm allowed to come, i will come and we will continue the story. thank you for telling your story tonight. keep schools safe, the shooting death in atlanta up next. ♪ as you get older,

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♪ >> laura: earlier today the d.a. of georgia former police officer garrett role for with felony murder intent of their charges on the death of rayshard brooks. and also charged a second police officer who was at the scene with aggravated assault and two counts of violation of oath by an officer. and also my shot and killed brooksat a black man. as part of the shooting occurred after he failed a sobriety test after handcuffed brooks overpowered the two police officers, stole a taser, run away and pointed back at rolfe with it an open fire. despite brooks is action caught on a body cam, this is how the das counted the behavior.r >> mr. brooks on the night of the incident was calm. he was cordial, and really displayed a cooperative nature. we concluded and considered it as one report in consideration

that mr. brooks never presented himself as a threat. >> laura: joining me now and ined the exclusive is lance larusso former officer garrett rolfe's attorney. lance were you surprised to hear that he never presented himself as a threat but a cordial conversation. >> it was shocking to hear that because it's not true. >> laura: the altercation was obvious to anyone who saw the video. it went on for 20 minutes, the conversation, do you want to come with us? that went on for some time. but then it is clear he struggles against both officers overpower them. so why do you think the d.a. is emphasizing only the nice conversation part, which the officer demonstrated professionalism, i thought. >> i have no idea why he's doing that. there's a lot of things i have no idea. he is saying one of the officers is cooperating with the d.a.'s office. that lawyer for that officer

said that's not true. what they should be focused on is why it changed from a cordial conversation to a violent assault into law enforcement officers at the moment that mr. brooks knew he was going to jail. >> laura: he went after the client with a taser. >> [inaudible] >> i don't know if you can see it clearly... he admits there was a taser shot at your client, although it went at his head, he said. i want to get to that in a moment. i want to describe the use of a taser two weeks ago.

>> as many of you under georgia law, a taser is a deadly weapon under georgia law. >> laura: okay, lance, educate me. is a taser no longer a deadly weapon if it misses the head of a police officer? >> it went over his head, it is because it went into his face. that is the exact problem with a person who is not trained and why it becomes a deadly incapacitated weapon especially in the hands of somebody already committed a robbery and forcibly disarmed when uniform law enforcement officer. when a law enforcement officer uses a taser in the course of a lawful arrest, it is nonlethal force because the officersnf trained how to shoot it, where to shoot it and one of the things they say is nonlethal, less lethal are taser, taser,, taser. that is done for two reasons so that officers around them know they are not shooting a weapon and that the suspect is not

shooting back at them because when a taser when it goes off sounds like a firearm. >> laura: well, here is how the logger for the brooks family described the deadly encounter with your client. watch. >> what we are looking at is what is it reasonable, proportionate and necessary? you can see the officer reached for the gun before mr. brooks around with the taser. i mean that is clearly visible in the video. he was already going in that direction, going to the lethal force direction before that taser was planted in his direction. >> laura: lance, doesn't matteror that you had his hand n his gun? >>nc at that point the officer rolfe should be wondering what's going h on behind them. it is for somebody with another type of weapon that we didn't see? is he trying to carjack something? everybody in the area is danger. the problem is when we saw this in the video the d.a. broke this down and said look here, we enhance the video 12 feet apart. look here the officer was leaning against the car.

he's leaning against the car because he thinks he's going to get killed and the officer's mind, brain and ability to see doesus not have the ability to enhance video. he is saying all of this happening quickly. he's reacting to what's happening quickly and i'm tired of getting people say mr. brooks was running away. mr. brooks was not running away. mr. brooks turned and offered extreme violence towards a uniformed law enforcement officer. if he was able to deploy a taser it would incapacitate officerr rolfe through his body armor and at that point if you decided to disarm another officer, he would be in possessionol of another firearm. >> laura: the d.a. gave another view saying that immediately for 2 minutes and 12 seconds after the shooting, he said this happened. >> there was no medical attention applied to mr. brooks. when we examined the videotape and in our discussion with

witnesses, what we discovered is during the 10 minutes and 12 seconds that officer rolfe actually kicked mr. brooks while he laid on the ground. >> laura: want to play this moment that was also caught on body cam and get your response. >> mr. brooks -- mr. brooks, keep breathing for me. >> laura: lance, we just saw that there was cpr administered, but the d.a. said it took 2 minutes and 12 seconds to happen. tonight, can you tell us, is the d.a. stating that correctly? >> my client never kicked mr. brooks. if there was a video of my client kicking mr. brooks, you would have seen it. you show him still one leg is bent. he could be leaning down to give first aid and may be trying to evaluate whether he needed handcuffs. this officer gave him cpr,

monitored his pulse prior to that, talk to him to keep him breathing, and called for the otherri efforts on the scene. the other thing that the d.a. said, he's never seen an officer agreed to testify against a bad officer. my client testified against an atlantar police officer in the grandad jury when that officer d done something wrong. so this is an officer who is known to the law enforcement community. he's known to the d.a.'s office. he was actually cleared of another use of force, and he testified on behalf of the d.a. to prosecute a bad officer. >> laura: it is a question whether he will get a fair trial in this climate, certainly, in the atlanta area. i know you have a lot of defense motions that you will be filing, lance. we appreciate you coming on to give us a different perspective, thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. >> laura: coming up a shocking

assault caught on tape and who isti perhaps the bravest celebry left in hollywood? raymond arroyo reveals it all in "seen and unseen" next. ♪ i see your light in the dark ♪ ♪ smile in my face when we all know it's hard ♪ ♪ you're doing a good job a good job ♪ ♪ you're doing a good job ♪ don't get too down ♪ the world needs you now ♪ know that you matter

>> laura: it is time for the "seen and unseen" with the cultural stories of the week. the fox news contributor raymond arroyo. all right, raymond june 12, 31-year-oldal rasheed ramage randomly attack 92-year-old new york native gramercy park and you can see the crime here. everybody has seen it by now. the main thing is he's been arrested 104 times, a registered sex offender. how can this possibly happen? >> how is this ground the street? his past offenses include rubbing his body parts against a 13-year-old, groping sexual abuse, on and on and on. for his last three offenses, laura he was given a court date

but not held in custody. this is the result of new york's bail reform laws. for misdemeanors and even felonies, cops are required to give a desk appearance ticket, a court date. this is outrageous, given this guy's criminal past and the heinous attacks on the innocent, but you know, i was thinking today, laura, they are more focused on toppling statues. we want to focus on the toppling people. it is always easy to condemn the past and confront the present. a guy like this, 104 arrests, something is deeply wrong in our society and in our criminal justice system that allows us to go on to. >> laura: it reminds me of urthat old knockout game, remind me of people knocking each other out of the way and randomly attack. here a 92-year-old woman that she never felt afraid walking in new york. she grew up in native new yorker.ar she said she hopes he stays in jail a long time and tries to make himself a better person. so she is 92 years old.

what else? >> that s is the media too, tras young people to the spurge mentality to strike and hit and destroy anything you want. you can't and you shouldn't and we should not allow this as society. from the phil donahue show, making the rounds on social media. courtesy of celebrities. in it a minister describes whether racial prejudice will ever be overcome. some stores were so impressed over the weekend that they share the video on instagram-like chelsea handler who wrote "i s learned a lot from watching this powerful video and then jamil wrote, someone please tell me the name of this extraordinary man who is so perfectly subtle with white fear. and under a minute. i'm here to tell you that extraordinary man from his name is louis farrakhan. he's head of the nation of islam. this is that kind, loving extraordinary man in action. >> farrakhan by god's great has

pulled the cover off! of the satanic powerful. >> white people deserve to die. call me and anti-semi -- stop it. i am anti-termite. >> he is viable. the amazing thing here, laura, and this tends from a racial moment, that video clip was liked by michelle pfeiffer, not the one you saw but the one they passed around. likedut by michelle pfeiffer, jennifer aniston, jessica chastain called the phil donahue, perhaps, farrakhan anti-semitism somatic views took form during his own oppression. we know that oppression when race leads to an oppression of

all races. after tell you i was a little sick when i read that comment because you don't fight racism with racism. you don't fight bigotry with bigotry. this kind of hate, it is the last voice we need on the scene. >> laura: as interesting as that is, how about the fact that didn't know who he was. these people are forever lecturing america what is right and wrong. they k have every right to speak out, but they are lecturing constantly. and they don't even know, louis farrakhan is only the most well-known figures and religious cultural figures and i don't know the last 40 years and they don't know who he is? that is bizarre. what else? >> there is a celebrity trying to offer constructive solutions, laura during this time, tara cruz to the "brooklyn nine-nine", he tweetedut this, defeating white supremacy without white people creates black supremacy. inequality is the truth, like it

or not, we are al talk" to expl. >> because of the suffering of black people, they decided that we are not equal, we are better. and i think that is a mistake. we havee people who have decided who is going to be black and who is not. black people have different views. it's not just when you are white. you can be republican or libertarian, democrat, you can be anything. but if you are black, you have to be one thing. joee biden said if you don't voe for me, you ain't black. >> laura he is brave as can be. what i love in the same interview, he said supremacy is a spiritual problem. and he's right. it is when we all have to confront and spirituality is a good place to start. >> laura: did you see the faces of everybody in the brady bunch box? that is not allowed. you cannot say certain words,

certain words cannot pass her lips. you can't say certain things, otherwise -- >> we need to come together, laura. we need to come together and it starts with god. >> laura: unity, a quality whom i respect and every now and again you can have fun and try not to be too vindictive. that would be nice. we have to do better, raymond. we need a laugh every now andld again and not take folks so seriously. thanks so much. good to see you tonight. victor davis hanson and i will break down the literary strafing going on with warmonger john bolton. and explain how even "the new york times" take away makes trump look pretty good. stay there. ♪ nobody likes a tight squeeze. leanfire supplements from force factor contain ingredients clinically shown

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♪ >> laura: experts from john bolton's temper tantrum, well, i guess the book were released to various outlets today.tr i guess we now know why mr. bolton is so angry. trump didn't want tory bomb everyone like neocons want. here is an example, in june 2019, iran shot down a drone and bolton pushed trump te approve a series of military strikes in retaliation. trump decided to call up the strikes at the very last minute aftermi learning they would kill as many as 150 people. too many body bags, trump told

him, not proportionate. bolton still seemed incensed at this unexpected display of caution and inhumanity on the part of trump, deeming it the most irrational thing i ever witnessed any president do. okay, so that was "the new york times" account. joining me victor davis hanson who is a senior fellow. victor, this is one of the supposed smoking guns that democrats that would what, insure trump's impeachment? that he didn't want us to get involved in some tit for tat because of that drone? that is amazing. >> i don't understand the constituency to which he is appealing to because if you are a "new york times" reader, oh,zd my god, i want to be shot by donald trump and john bolton showses me he's a warmonger. all of a sudden, you think, he didn't go to war over a drone and that is bad? well wow, trump might not be all that bad. when you look at the conservative constituents is

bolton saying to them, look, he's not tough he didn't go to war. wait a minute, he got out of the iran deal and nobody dared to get rid of soleimani, them own military, that daring action and that had positive effects on the middle east and he got rid of isis and syria and the person to recalibrate against china. what do you mean, he's been half, tracks on the end. so there is a neoconservative preemptory community still that exists. its is sad and a tragic situatn because they want to use john bolton as a useful it of it it but to do so you have to go down the bill kristol never trumper line. he is an orphan. and i don't know what the purpose was. then you get the question of timing, laura he was valuable during the impeachment because he spilled the beans on your crane but he didn't do that, i fear he doesn't have anybody

left who wants to hear about it. >> laura: i want to play this, by the way. this is what bolton said about trump in an interview with abc news that set to air inis fl on sunday, watch. >> donald trump as we say sees himself as the dealmaker. what happened with the dealmaker in the situation? >> the president may well be a superb maker when it comes to manhattan real estate dealing with arms limitation treaty on strategic weapons, dealing in many, many other international security issues are things far removed from his life experience. >> laura: victor, bolton experience has been encouraging the wasting of american lives and treasure and endless wars as far as i can tell. >> yeah, it is baffling because he says he's going to give an example, and he only gives one and it was about missile treaties and trump did very well.

he got out of that crazy russian treaty on short-term missiles. that was pretty good. i'm waiting to hear the other examples. i'm thinking though iran deal he got out of that.in nato, the contributions of the europeans up. that was pretty good. north korea, a greater console so where is the evidence promised that he doesn't know how to negotiate? he's done a good job. >> laura: victor, doesn't it remind you of what the generals are doing too? it is the old eisenhower military industrial complex warning that when you have someone like trump that comes in and says, wait a second, you know how much that cost we have alll the troops in germany? what are the american people getting from this now? is it wise or not wise? they can't stand anyone questioning their failed policies. they can't stand it and they lied about the train experience. >> i don't understand what theyt thought donald trump was. he was clear he wanted to get tough on china and bring and

re-industrialize the hollowed out united states. he wanted to close the border. he question of optional wars and cost analysis did not pay off. everybody wanted to convert him forop what he got elected for? we have all these military people and john bolton with a distinguished record and angry they don't listen to me but why did they go to work for him? >> laura: wait, victor, how many votes did john bolton get? when john bolton ran for president. i must have missed all those primaries that he won. i mean, if you don't agree with the president's policies, why do you think that your views are going to prevail over the commander-in-chief's on key issues? maybe sometimes you will be able to convince them, but he didn't win the presidency and he seems likekel he stamping his feet go, oh, why didn't he do everything i said? he's president and you are not, and he gets to make the calls. it's unbelievable.

>> i think it is a frustration. i was trained with these languages so when i hear trump violated the constitution and made a mockery, i want to hear what the examples are. they never give an example. well, he used federal troops. and john cannot negotiate, give me examples, but it suggests there is a larger frustration that trump's style is who we is. it's not about the issues. >> laura: they were her coming to those days to drop 50,000 american troops in some godforsaken place. victor, thank you so much. great to see you. in moments, a sneak peek of something we will bring you tomorrow night. raymondee arroyo on the streetsf santa monica, i was with him, talking to business owners whose lives and businesses were destroyed in the looting. are you sick and tired of looking and

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>> laura: our own raymond arroya hit the streets in santa monica where he spoke to the left radical violence. >> for us, we work really hard to build up this business 30

years and for me, watching what they did is not acceptable. >> we are the innocent here. we are a small business and her. we are a small business and how are we going to recover from this, i don't even know. they won more on that tomorrow night. that is all the time we have tonight, ramen and the fantastic "fox news @ night" have all the details, take it from here, shannon. >> breaking news, thank you so much. in atlanta we are trying to run the reports of scores of police officers refusing to show up for work and protests on the 11 charges including felony murder against fired police officer garrett rolfe who could be sentenced to life or even of george floyd.