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supreme court set to rule today on whether to delay the event. meanwhile the arena that will host the rally is asking the campaign for a detailed written plan outlining how it will incorporate health and safety steps. the term campaign tamely take this seriously which is why wer doing temperature gems for everyone and providing masks an hand sanitizer. this will be an trump rally, which means a big boisterous excited crowd, we don't recall the medium shaming demonstrator about social distancing. the media was cheering them on. today, melissa francis, attorne and fox news contributor. joining us in the center, fox news analyst and host of keepin up with joan, florence jones. get it come, but we tried to kept keep up.

it is great to see everybody on our fox friday. >> to kind of lines of thought, where do you fall on the covid concerns and the rally. >> when the government initiall shut down the country both federally, local municipalities i was against it. the libertarian aspect in me is very eerie when government take away citizens rights. i don't think these local municipalities could have predicted that there would be a national movement across the country pushing for a change in policing. you cannot govern strictly by your emotions. it has to be legal and it has t be consistent. when you hear people crying across the country saying i didn't get to bury my loved one i didn't get to open up my business, i didn't get to go to church, and there was a

different standard. now you see the outcry. i think any fair-minded individual could question the consistency now that people criticizing the president for having this rally, even if you disagree with his politics. just to follow-up on that, i think it's very concerning and think this is why people are eerie of government out of control to have the mayor to impose these standards of getting rid of the people that were standing outside of the arena is concerning. this curfew should have never been in effect and it seems as if it was punishment. that's just not fair. >> you know, we will come to you , and as i do, there is an article by wired, and other publications are writing about this, what minnesota's princess are revealing about covid 19

spread and these our initial sort of looks at this. scientifically looking at what is real. there is a hand point of finger point too moral day part years as things began to open up on that holiday weekend and people not wearing masks and it was crazy beach scenes and boat scenes and all that kind of stuff in the testing dates to g back to that. but actually what they're finding is that the testers wer print protesters were pretty responsible with wearing masks and it was all outdoors. they think that may have helped to keep this bread down on thes early looks. statistically, very tapped down. so when you hear, the protest, the protest, actually there is science coming that shows it wa outdoors, maybe not. >> you're absolutely right there . i think it's important that the tracking of this goes back to memorial day. the beach parties that were hel at the bull into in the ozarks, those were floated around everywhere. hundreds of people in the pool

together, very different than what we saw from the protest. in manhattan there were protest going by my area constantly. they were trying to keep their distance and they were wearing masks. this science is speaking for itself your. we are seeing fights and places across the country now and tuls is almost one of them with the most a 50 percent rise in baghdadi covid cases. i feel for the governor of oklahoma who spent on a press circuit trying to talk about this rally in tulsa. present pressure from the president to say it's all okay. he says what is a concern, how about when you're not having a 60 percent spike in your city. so this isn't about people not being able to go to a trump rally, and i certainly feel for those who couldn't bury their loved ones and who have lost their businesses or are on the brink of losing their businesse because of the shutdown, but th health and safety experts our clear about this that it is too

dangerous to cram people into a arena and giving out masks and hand sanitizer is one thing, bu mandating them is another. i think the drum campaign shoul do that if they're going to hol this rally tomorrow. >> as you're looking at this legally, we have heard reports and disclaimers that people wil find those releases that say if you get covid 19 you can hold entities responsible like the campaign. what do you think makes this work? i've also read that parts of it will be outside, so the president reportedly will have two-stage areas where he will b able to address crowds. >> that is right. across the legal the inscape in the country, we have seen disclosure forms being disseminated and as essentially a essentially a type of protection that undergoing that they're not held liable, and i think it all boils down to the elective nature of this. people can choose whether or no to attend this rally, people ca choose whether or not to the

campaign has been quite clear that they are suggested, strongly suggested that you wea a mask, but if you were in that vulnerable population or live when someone in a vulnerable population or have to come in contact with them, that you sit this one out. trump came on earlier and talke about the outdoor section, they really tried to provide that fo people all different arenas while understating the fact tha this is all elective. and point out the fact that for example the national guard did not have an election in responding to the riots in washington, dc who have since suffered their own spike in covid transmissions. >> that's an excellent example of where it would've been voluntary as you put it. they are dedicated to serving the rest of us. >> when i look at this issue in particular, i am reminded of my very basic training and learnin on politics. it remind you that the left

values the collective and the right values freedom amongst other things. on the left they believe in the wisdom of government, in the right they believe in the wisdo of the individual. i can respect both sides, and until someone in government tells me that it's okay for me to risk my health to protest, but it's not okay for me to ris my health to rally and that reminds me that freedom is very important to me and that i don' trust government. there are flawed human beings o every side that are in government to really be impartial about things and not impose their politics in their beliefs on things. they have told us time and agai that with everybody who has wen before me, government has told us when it's okay for us to ris our health in this situation an when it's not. not all of us agree with how they've made those decisions, and that is why it should be up to me. no one is being forced to go to

the rally, and i don't think they should be forced to wear a mask. i think they should be told of the danger, and we're all aware and then you decide whether you want to go or not, whether you want to protect yourself or not before they use the idea that b going in doing these things you are risking the lives of our healthcare workers, your being selfish, because that's where libertarians it's not about your freedom anymore, but then the protest came along and suddenly it was okay to risk the health of our healthcare providers for the rights of protesters. no, the hypocrisy as something we all hate more than anything and this issue more than anyone we've seen recently, has really highlighted the hypocrisy, especially on the left. >> you know, i would say this because i think it's important to point out the difference between all of the things

religious liberty in those things that we are allowed to g do it make choices for ourselves , when a government then admits like happened yesterday or the day before tha you know, when it comes to masks , everybody should be wearing them, and i guess they misled everybody in the beginning with their professional where their medica professionals said because they wanted to be able to keep them aside for medicine purposes, medical purposes. it is frustrating for people to be told what they can and canno do. >> we are having some technical difficulties. i'm going to let our audio team get on that. >> my microphone has mia. >> i will take it. that's okay. former atlanta police officer charged with felony murder in the death of brooks, could face

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life in prison. in the meantime, local official are trying to boost morale amon law enforcement and ensure city residents that they are safe amid a higher than usual number of police calls. >> there are thousands of peopl marching in downtown atlanta right now, they are making thei way from centennial park to the georgia state capitol on this day. it happens to be by garrett wil come a former officer garrett wolf who waived his right to a court appearance today. he was supposed to appear and h did not. he has been accused of kicking brooke says he's laid on the ground saying i got him, his attorney denied these allegations for the other officer also turned himself in

yesterday, he is free on bail and plans to cooperate with the investigation he faces for charges including aggravated assault for standing on brooks. also, he said in an interview yesterday that brooks was a total tragedy and he said brook was friendly and respectful in the initial encounter. meanwhile, while morale at the atlanta police department and said to be edited and all-time low, eight officers have joel resign since those charges were filed. an unknown number of officers have walked off the job or called out sick. many officers believe the charges were filed by the da to quickly and without due process. >> what we are seeing as an increase in officers taking off. we don't believe that is a coordinated effort. officers our working 12 and a half hour shifts, and sometimes even more.

being out on the front line, being spit upon and items throw at them, so at some point peopl get tired. >> meanwhile, a video has surfaced online of rashawn brooks and his after serving a year in jail. >> some of the system could loo at us as individuals. we do have lives, where it's just a mistake we made. and you know, not just u.s. as if we are animals. >> the fulton county commissioners have already vote to and are limiting the scope a to when police officers can use deadly force. and pride organization has donated $500 too every atlanta police officer in an effort to boost morale. >> thank you so much for that.

jessica, i want to start with you because you know, as we heard that video there, and we heard what rashawn brooks had t say. it reminds me that one of the very few things that we've all come together on a recently was criminal justice reform. i wonder if this idea of reforming police practices and all the different things when they say there's a 70 percent crossover between what those on the right and the left or the too different houses are lookin at in terms of police reform, does it seem like this is a potential issue that americans could come together over or as were seen in the protest and rioting, is that too hard right now. >> i don't think it's too hard right now and we've been talkin about this for a few weeks sinc the murder of george floyd. this is a unity moment in america, we have seen 20-point

bump in the support for black lives matter and what the organization stands for. the 7 percent commonality between what republicans and democrats think as heartening a well. my concern is that democrats ar going to hold tight to which i agree with getting rid of qualified immunity and getting rid of no knock warrants. we note breanna taylor murderer are out there and haven't been charged at. and then you have stim scottsdale on the other side th isle that doesn't address those issues. i'm worried that the friction will continue, but what you're saying about that video they just got released about how he talks about not being treated like an animal, we send for his people to prison because they did something wrong but then they should have faith in the system when they been rehabilitated. it does create a perception of them and they're not going to b good at their jobs, that they'r unreliable, that their criminals , and i hope going forward considering how brooks

met his end, treated like an animal. he is ready for reentry. >> what do you think? as there a way to negotiate ove these issues where there is an agreement if you start from the point is there is an agreement on so much. >> i always believe there is a way to get to that juicy middle of the issue and to try to come together in a way i am very optimistic. i do truly believe in that, wha i also believe his personal responsibility and accountability as well. so i don't know, and jessica, i kinda i don't know if there's enough cohesiveness among the people protesting in the street to figure out exactly what will quell their concerns and their fears. let's talk about this for what

it really is. it's one thing to be angry, but when you are fearful of an entity that something may go wrong if you're stopped or whatever, that is a different place where you come from, so i think you need advocacy, i thin you need leadership for that group, we are all americans, an i wonder who you gather at the table as leadership because we need it. the issues in louisville, kentucky with breanna taylor ar very different from what we see in atlanta, georgia with rayshard brooks and with george floyd in minneapolis, minnesota. just in terms of how they cases layouts. the underlying issues are building that trust in that community among all sides. just this note though that came out and just the last few minutes, they have fired the police officer in the murder of breanna taylor, in the shooting of breanna taylor. louisville police have just announced that, so that is

something that has happened. in that case, versus all the others, and there have been so many others. , if there are underlying issue that need to be touched on on who brings all of that to the table? it's not like you can go to the streets and talk with millions of people. >> if i could bring in we were having some technical issues at the beginning. sorry, jessica. lawrence, we are talking about this idea that there is 70 percent kind of agreement and overlap in terms of what is on the right and the left in terms of what we need to do going forward with police. one of my concerns is that ther are those who get their political power from where ther is an agreement. a lot of times to me it seems like it stands in the way of progress the fact that they are dimming up where there isn't agreement and sort of using tha

as a way to raise money and a way to gain support, rallying support as they run for reelection on either side. can we get something done with those factions not really helping necessarily? >> i think that is the danger o doing policy on the federal level is that many times, it gets put in the categories of the same back and forth between democrats and republicans, and don't think that is helpful for the debate. if the federal level wants to get some kind of guy done and i believe it could help some, go ahead and pass the 75 percent that you agree on, but many of these changes that need to take place have to go on the local level. i understand the federal government and the need to do something, but just because you want to do something, doesn't mean you have the power to get it done. when it comes to the no knock warrants, when it comes to police accountability, when it

comes to the external boards an conditions to monitor these shootings as well as a separate use of force claim, the federal government cannot monitor that. so i understand this debate, bu you've got to bring local community members in. you have to bring local city council members and you have to bring the county and the state into actually get policies and procedures to get this done. melissa, i have heard you on this program numerous occasions saying what are the actionable items? the local community has to sit there because it's not the same for every single community. some communities don't even hav these issues. >> jessica, i will give you the last word before we go. >> i just want to have my agreement to what lawrence is talking about about the importance of doing this on the local level. that is also where morale for local law enforcement is going

to be for those that are good a their jobs. one of the best things that i have heard as that pervasive conversation about reimagining the duties that police officers take. and they are really being asked to do too much. it is too broad of a spectrum o duties that they are being aske to carry out great i think that is one of the ways to move forward on the local level, on the state level, having these deep conversations about where you should actually have a police officer or somebody who is coming to in event of armed versus someone else like so san francisco where they're sending out more social workers. i am in agreement with lawrence there and hopefully we can get agreement on the federal level and have the deep conversations on the state and local level. >> joe biden has one less perso to consider for running mate. why the senator took herself ou of the running and who she says biden should choose.

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>> senator amy klobuchar has taken herself out of consideration to be joe biden's running mate and said this abou the kind of person that biden should pick. >> this is a historic moment. america must seize on this moment, and i truly believe as actually told the vice presiden last night when i called him that i think this is a moment t put a woman of color on that ticket. >> of the six women considered to be the top contenders, all but one is either african-american or hispanic. lawrence, what you think about even saying that you are going

to pick someone based on the color of their skin? how does that make you feel? >> let's first start off with senator amy klobuchar. you didn't take yourself out of the running, you were no longer being considered to because of your position back in minnesota when you decided not to charge corrupt cops, so you are having a battle with the community right now. you still want to be vp, the people have decided they didn't want to end biden knew that he would be political ramification for him to choose you on the ticket. i don't like the idea of anybod being considered for a job base on their color. but i do realize the politics that democrats are playing righ now, they need black women to show up, and right now, the party as being put on notice to represent lack of voters when they haven't in the past, to ge the votes every single year, bu they don't fit the agenda for

black america, so black voters are saying they want something great this happens to be the vp pick. i think he has boxed himself in and so it's going to be problematic. again, biden is going to have t win this on his own, he can't depend on a vp pick to be woman of color to energize the party. >> jessica, as it hypocritical to say you're going to pick someone based on the color of their skin? >> i don't think it's hypocritical, i think it indicates that the democrats priority as to make sure we hav a representative government. we're a diverse party and are extremely proud of that. i think it's important that people see themselves reflected in leadership. republicans desperately want to diversified. i think there are only 13 femal republican serving in congress right now, they want to recruit

more women but women don't want to do it, if you look at what's going on this week with the police reform bill that does come out that is being steer headed by the only black republican member of the senate he has been the face of that, the president appointed him on that issue, and that is because his black and that representation matter sprayed i don't think it's hypocritical a all. i think it speaks to our values. amy klobuchar was out of the running. by, but the swipe at elizabeth warren is out of the running. >> okay. so maybe if it's not hypocritical, do you risk then, if that woman as vice president that people say, she was only picks because picked because of the color of her skin if she wasn't black and she wasn't hispanic she wouldn't be the vp right now. even if she would have been, some people will always think that. is that the danger you run when

you say something like this tha we're going to only consider african-american or latino women ? >> i'm going to take that with raw honesty. ever that my whole career. so if people weren't right abou me. so i don't think that they are probably calculating that as much as you think, but i do say this, let's talk about that candidate for as i can. do you believe that amy klobuchar was blocking the way of a talented woman of color or is anybody else? she was from minnesota she was having problems behind the scenes is a candidate already with questions about when she was in the das office, what was happening with certain police officers in the minneapolis police department. she was already dealing with some issues. her stepping aside just seems, it's interesting, but i don't think she was blocking anybody' door.

>> it was also very minnesota nice the way she did it which people should be noted that biden is performing a lot bette in minnesota and that his focus may have to be more on the sunbelt which would open up the door to other candidates for vp. >> day of both joy and now national action is the holiday marking the end of slavery take on new meaning this year. we have live reports next. saturdays happen.

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>> you've heard lawrence jones said the top of the hour, and i will get into a more varied events across america celebrating juneteenth marking the effective end of slavery in the united states in 1865. these year, juneteenth has take on a new and special meaning.

texas senator says he will introduce a bill to make it an official national holiday. it's been a holiday in texas since 1980, that was the last eight on june 19th 1865 where emancipation was announced in that state, so then everybody came on board, that's why it wa in texas right now he wants it for the whole nation. there are rallies planned including one at the sight of george site of george floyd's death. mike? >> let me start off by showing you the evolution of what some people have taken to calling george floyd's square. this is the intersection where he was killed. so many people from all over have been bringing flowers to this intersection, even dried flowers are part of the declaration as traffic has been blocked off in every direction. here at the center of the intersection where people used to have students, this has become a garden. people are putting mulch down and one of the things to note a you have white people and black

people working side-by-side. one of the gentleman i talked t out here, an african-american gentleman noted many white people coming out to this moral as black people. many white people are learning what juneteenth is. he thinks the death of george floyd because that. the death of george floyd impacted that. legislation in the now as the session is scheduled to wrap up that measure is before the stat senate. it would be in the use of toeholds and make that would make police more accountable, that is part of the legislation that is before the senate right now. >> if destiny and history as no raining down on minnesota, toda and tomorrow, i don't know what is. the image of us in the senate, walking away from systemic change on juneteenth adds to th

legacy of what the rest of the world is looking at here. >> they are supporting legislation that remove the ability of an arbitrator to intervene and block disciplinar measures that would otherwise discipline bad officers. if you look around, you can see that there is an event being held at the end of this road. this is the one of the first of events of about 13 events recognizing juneteenth and the death of george floyd in the twin cities. >> thank you very much. lawrence jones, i come to you first because you had wished everybody a happy freedom day a i call it a happy juneteenth. it's interesting where having the conversations we are they share at this time. it has taken on that significance that i spoke of. what are your topline thoughts? >> i have been spelled celebrating this holiday my

entire life. the interesting thing about that , i'm from texas, so it hits close to home. >> you heard me talk about that. >> exactly. i'm not going to rehash the history because you gave it, bu what is interesting about this is the reason it is celebrated as not because i learned about it and some history class. i was taught about this from my mama and daddy. and i think there needs to be a larger conversation because so often, we separate things as black history, and then america history. this is american history. the fact that it is 2020, and some people are just now discovering what juneteenth is, is kind of sad. it is an indictment on our current education system that this history isn't being taught. part of the reason that we are not understanding each other as an american family as because w don't know the history. and we don't know where certain

sin fears come from. i would contend, while we're having this national conversation, that there needs to be a deeper look and deeper dive into the history books tha are kids are reading today. because if we are going to move forward is a country, and we're going to love each other. one of the main people that i listen to and reviewed as speec july 5th, 1952, he talks about what the fourth of july means t the slaves, because during that period of time we weren't free. so again, if we are to move forward, and we all want histor to not repeat itself, i think w should learn it. >> it is so interesting, and if you guys will allow me to stay with lawrence for just a second because you and i have real conversations on and off the air . this talk about taking statues down and taking plaques down, m

main concern is that some peopl will only get their history lessons from the things they walk past for the very reason you're giving. i don't know that were doing a good enough job in our school system. i don't mean to indict teachers both of my parents taught, but it comes down to let's talk about everything. i'm not saying that i want people to fly certain flags or do any of that. none of that. of not getting into that, but i we take away too many reminders of where we've been, i am more concerned about the fact that w will forget, not just repeat, but that we won't learn the lessons that have made us great to this point, and we are in this together. we can do better and we will do better. the people marching in the streets know we must do better. all of us together. we get one today and we get one on july 4th. that is what i tell my biracial children, you guys get it twice. >> you know, it's interesting

because there have been large debate about the statues and i think that's up to local communities to decide what they sense is best. i don't believe in anarchy and just tearing them down. you can be like tyler perry and by an entire confederacy base and turn it into a movie studio. i like to tell that story, but also like to tell the story of in texas, our capital we had a monument of the confederacy. on the plaque, the history was wrong. on the placket said because it was because of slaves rights. that's not what it was about, and we corrected that history. so if we're going to leave the statues there, let's put a plaque on it until the people what it's all about. >> everybody on the panel, than you for letting us lean in together today. i appreciate it. the white house press briefing set to begin minutes from now. we will take you they're live a soon as it's happening.

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>> we are awaiting the start of the white house press briefing. we are going to bring that to you live as soon as it gets underway. in the meantime, president trum says the supreme court needs ne justices after the court yesterday ruled against his efforts to end obama era daca protections for immigrants. a list of conservative names will be out by tweeting based o decisions being rendered now, this list is more important tha ever before. the second amendment, right to life, ridley just liberty,. the gremlins have been worked out of amy system over there, since you are the lawyer on the panel, what is your response to this? >> i think it is always important for citizens to have the benefit of a judge whist being published by incoming potential candidates. i'm not a fan of that knee-jerk

response to this decision in that forum, but i do have to point out that what therscore a illustrate the important of the ministry to procedures act. this was about the justices saying the administration has failed to articulate acceptable policy and reason why we should make changes to this, and i think we should all be concerne with the fact that four bills were ignored so there wasn't a permanent legislative reason or emperors permanent recourse for these daca recipients to have. that being said there's a trend with this administration and that they have a higher percentage of losses in court based on the administrative procedures act. in layman's terms, their failin to articulate and acceptable reasoning or rationale for the courts to accept for some of th decisions that they're making. it doesn't mean that that merit our what is being litigated here . i think moving forward, the tak away for viewers are that if they care about these issues, it's important them for a lobby

of their elective officials to make legislative changes and also to yes, be involved with and look to see what judges and potential justices they are names are being put forward for those reasons that the presiden articulated like religious liberty and everything else tha is so crucial to us. >> so, jessica, it is one major rallying cry for beat folks on the right, it gets amount of vote, the idea of judges. it is a big one. there are issues on the left, but it seems like the idea of being in a position where you get to nominate judges as a bigger deal to folks on the right than on the left. >> i would say that there are n equivalent issues on the left and it is something i struggle with with my own party that we don't have meaning issues like court appointments come out right to life, as a second amendment quite frankly. people are more democratically diverse about what gets about t

the polls, this president as absolutely correct if he is trying to win reelection to put this list out there. he's having a bit of buyer's remorse. and i bet he is thinking why didn't i nominate a name that's been thrown around a little bit brett cavanagh has voted exactl as the president wanted. we will see if we will hear about roe v wade in the coming years. they judge issue, when you thin about what mitch mcconnell has an edge to accomplish great he' overseen hundreds of appointments, that is what this is about. trump will be gone, but the judges will be forever, or unti they pass away. >> very much so. thank you to our panel, we have more outnumbered in just a moment. 300 miles an hour, thats where i feel normal. having an annuity tells me my retirement is protected.

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>> thanks to everyone here on the couch. now over to harris. >> we are now awaiting the whit house press briefing to begin a any moment now. president trump as gearing up for his first campaign rally since the pandemic, and the big event is growing at this hour. this at briefing is getting set to begin with kayleigh mcenany . we will take you they're live. president trump supporters are lining up and have been all wee to get a ticket for tomorrow nights rally in also, oklahoma. they have been there for more than a million request deep as you can imagine