take care, and be well. to learn more, call one eight four four cosentyx or visit cosentyx.com howie: this is media buzz, i'm howard kurtz, we will get to the oklahoma rally shortly. one brief section in bolton book, president trump reportedly to have said that journalists should have been jailed to reveal forces, these people should be executed, they are scum bags, let me say i'm strongly against execution of journalists, former national security adviser charges that one-time boss did pressure ukraine as democrats charge during impeachment and asked chinese president xi to help him

get reelected. bolton and his publisher simultaneously leaked copies to new york times and washington post, placed excerpt in the wall street journal and taped interview airing tonight with abc's martha. >> you describe the president as erratic, foolish, behaved irrationally, you can't leave him alone. >> i don't think he's fit for office. i don't think he has the competence to take out the job. there really isn't any guiding principle that i was able to discern other than what's good for donald trump's reelection. >> trump didn't want to bomb everyone like a lot of neo cons want. >> you are basically saying i will do what i can to get joe biden elected. that goes against what john bolton has done in his career. >> every bit of donald trump's disgrace in office is also john bolton's disgrace.

refusing to testify to inquiry, john bolton violated oath of office to support and defend the constitution. if john bolton could spend the rest of his life, trying to wash the blood of his hands, it would be there here and bolton attempt to go cash in on the trail of his country. howie: joining us to analyze ben domenech, susan for echo and -- ferrechio, capri cafaro, ben; do you think it's a pretty big story for the press? >> of course, it's a big story. it deserved to be published and reveals a bolton that vindicates assumptions and critics have had for a long time, someone who is

catty and never go over grudge, you have meeting notes and john bolton's description as to why he was right and everyone was wrong. he criticizes nikki haley and everyone around him. bolton is always confident that he's 100% the honorable person in the room and people can take what they will with attitude of the president who frequently questions assumptions and didn't want to go along with the agenda that he had. i also think it's big story the fact that the president hired him in the first place, someone so inconsistent with the approach he had in running in 2016 and that raises questions about the team that he had. howie: capri, in the book, president trump asked xi that they were fine with bay gin building concentration camps

with the persecuteed uighurs muslims. >> capri, what we are seeing is very pointed views on this, it's not about the veracity of john bolton, it's about whether or not individuals believe that president trump could have done or said things that john bolton said that he did in his book. the press if you're on the left and you don't believe -- you believe that president trump could have said, yes, china help my reelection, yes, i support concentration camps, that's the angle that you will go with. and if you're on the right, you will say john bolton was fired, it's; you know, sour grapes, you know, he's an opportunity, 2 million-dollar advance; we need to take what he says with a grain of salt. the american public is in the same two camps as well.

what we are missing from the analysis is an analysis, we are not seeing critical thinking and credit sal analysis -- critical analysis. howie: also that trump saying he wasn't show finland was an independent country. the president tweets that bolton is a wacko, disgruntled fool and sick puppy and yesterday despicable. isn't he pushing the coverage and help drive book sales? susan: that's what he always does. he punches pretty hard, he does not let things go and gets down in the dirt with people and in this instance a book like this is obviously going to drive someone like president trump completely batty and he's showing it on twitter. i think in this instance,

though, it's probably a good idea for to president refute claims that bolton is making rather than saying absolutely nothing. he has others like pompeo were in the room and none of what bolton is saying is true. i think try to push back without the insults and at this point it's all baked in with the president. he does get in down the dirt with people, he fights pretty hard, his base loves it, so nothing new here with the way he's responded. howie: now i mentioned a judge refusing injunction saying the book is potentially criminal but ultimately allowing publication. i've been saying all week given the supreme court rulings against prior restraints that the book was unlikely to be blocked. here is the president's take on the ruling, let's watch. >> the book is out. i would say -- i would have said

even a week ago pull it back because you probably had your copy, he leaked and he gave -- did a very bad thing. it's really treasonnist what he did but the book is out. howie: president speaking in fox news john roberts. ben, i don't see any classified documents or intelligence, but the president said the conversations they had should be considered classified. does it go too far to call john bolton's actions treasonous? >> i think it goes too far. my big question about this book, is the better position to take with this is to put forward people refuting the claims he makes in the book. there's factual problems in the book, spelling of congressional members' name that would have gone over with fine-tooth comb.

howie: the book is number 1 on amazon. capri, i think it's aimed at the president trying to make sure that the proceeds from the book are frozen and john bolton doesn't make a time on this, your take? >> capri: i totally agree with that howard. that individual had to give the proceeds back, and i think that by in large a lot of people democrats and republicans alike see this john bolton book as essentially as a cash cow for john bolton or else he would

have testified if he was this concerned and had all of this information, he would have testified without a subpoena, this is the kind of criticizing we are hearing from adam schiff and speaker pelosi and so i think that president trump is trying to hit john bolton where it hurts and that's in the pocketbook. howie: susan, the judge also said well, the horse is out of the barn as far as the book. here it is. by leaking copies obviously to "the new york times" and washington post, by putting excerpt in the journal, didn't bolton essentially render the suit moot because the consent is out there already? susan: it's all out there. all the juicy parts have been fully exposed and written about and chewed over by everybody. we have all seen it. it would be on principle now to continue and block the book and set a precedent for future books that others might try to write about the president. i think that's an important point here too.

there have been a string officials that have come out of the white house with negative things to say about the president and bolton is setting a pattern here where you can make a lot of money if you write a book about president trump while he's still in office. howie: right, now bolton's position he complied with the security and took things out of the book. let's start with ben, how sit -- i'm sure that you will enjoy the question, media liberals praising him as courageous truth-teller. >> it's predictable and has happened with many officials in the administration. i think with bolton it's particularly amusing just given the level of rank that he inspired among the press and how he's being received in open arms now that he's telling a different tune. howie: ratter, capri, you touched on this earlier m on the right are angry at bolton for not testifying and saving it for the book and a man without a

country politically speaking? >> capri: he certainly is. i hope he didn't pay -- or sent 2 million-dollar advance because he could pay it back. howie: he could make the money as best seller. susan, in the book, trump told turkey's erdoga, in that he would try to get corruption charges dropped, now it so happens that friday night attorney general barr fired the u.s. attorney now geff berman, berman refused to go and president said you're fire, "the new york times" said it's a crisis because the southern district of new york, is it a crisis? susan: you will see congrats, democrats look into this and maybe chuck grassley wanting to

know more about what's going on here. the timing is -- is not helpful for the president, so i fully anticipate congress is going to want to learn more, they'll be sending requests for information or potentially subpoenas to find out what's going on. so it's serious, yes. howie: as the media keep pointing out the office in new york has been investigating, he certainly has the right to do this. when we come back president trump's rally yesterday in oklahoma why the media made it largely about coronavirus and lately the coverage of president ial order by the police ing to bg for this for a long time. they will, but with accident forgiveness allstate won't raise your rates just because of an accident, even if it's your fault. cut! sonny. was that good? line! the desert never lies. isn't that what i said? no you were talking about allstate and insurance.

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howie: president trump held his rally in tulsa arena last night and the media's main focus that there are thousands of empty seats as the cameras kept showing. this followed criticism, blatant double standard by the press. >> i've been watching the fake news for weeks now and everything is negative. don't go, don't come, don't do anything today. i've never seen anything like that it. >> i've talked to people who are terrified and scared for their life. >> if you go to a trump rally you will die but if you go to a protest you will live. >> the trump campaign is not interested in protecting your health. the rally is strictly about president trump and his need to be the center of attention before during fans. >> by the way, some in the mob in the media and others, they don't want the president to have a rally. i said, okay, it's a simple

solution, call it a protest, nobody will complain. howie: ben domenech about a third of the arena, plans to address folks outside, there were people outside, most of the coverage in line with new york times, trump rally fizzles as attendance falls short of expectations. i have to say pundits are enjoying this. ben: absolutely they are. the spent the last couple of weeks putting all type of scary headlines on how the event would be a super spreader. what's interesting, howie, i was at the last trump rally that he had before all of this happened in south carolina, he had roughly the same amount of people there that he actually had in tulsa last night in terms of that arena. this is a normal size for them but i think that the campaign made a mistake in terms of boosting up the expectation that is they had for the size of this event beforehand and frankly the

president looked a little rusty with terms of ability connecting with the crowds, he does enjoy events but he always wants to have dominant show of force in terms of supporters. i think the media got what they wanted here and scared a lot of poem away. howie: susan, cnn and msnbc were covering but when trump came out, they covered 90 second, can you tell me if the story was all day long? susan: i think ben is absolutely right. the way the media has covered the president's rallies even prior to the pandemic it's been about whether he can bring a big crowd, the size, the energy, the way he draws from the crowd and so as of yesterday the story shifts a little bit because there were huge expectations;

they thought there were going to be a million people, people were buying up tickets or making phoney reservations to go -- to go to the rally and i think the pandemic issue is another thing that the prez really we wanted to cover here. how many people were going to show up to go to an indoor rally, that's not outside protest, in the middle of the pandemic, that was the story more than president stump speeches which tend to be similar from one speech to the next. howie: capri, the trump campaign blamed the media, there weren't many protestors at the entrances, the president had blamed the far left fake news media for trying to covid-shame him on the rallies. during protests you heard very little and almost all you heard about the oklahoma rally. >> capri: right, this is an

interesting dichotomy. two things going on, one are aspects to have media whether you want to call them mainstream media or left-leaning media who have made a moral judgment call that the rally -- president trump's rally is about president trump and selfish action to bring people to fuel his ego whereas the people that were going out to protest, they had a futuristic goal and putting themselves in harm's way for the greater good. i noticed that cnn is sensitive to the fact that they were getting called out on this kind of dual coverage and both breonna and jake tapper actually mentioned this i know the people are going to say that we are covering the proests -- protests differently but one is indoor and one is outdoor. people are waiting masks outside and no requirement for masks on the inside. there are aspects to have media

recognizing that they are getting called out and they are trying to address it with i find interesting. howie: yeah, i'm concerned of mass gatherings at all kinds whether protests or at the rally. media try -- tried to scare the american people. do you think the media is fear-mongering about this? ben: we have seen both sides. the fear-mongering that's irresponsible. to the point made by capri, think about the fear-mongering from the outdoor events, beaches and the like who have clearly not shown as they are saying at some point. i do think that we can be optimistic and we have to take this seriously. pence is making an argument that none of the rest of the media will run with but actually right here. howie: in the journal op-ed,

capri, briefly, is it fear-mongering when 111,000 americans have died in covid-19 and ten states are seeing highest averages? >> capri: the facts are not fear-mongering and how they are couched that could be potentially fear-mongering, ultimately americans need to be making their own decisions. as far as vice president pence he was lambasted particularly on the left for having to post with others saying that he was irresponsible and setting americans to slaughter of covid-19. i myself, you to be careful, wear your mask, that's just me. howie: god advice, i think americans are still concerned about coronavirus, does tend to be a partisan split. capri and susan, thank you very much, ben, stick around, is that truly ideological, two supreme court rulings that went against

the white house.

howie: the federalist have been fighting back threaten by google that will cost advertising revenue. nbc tried to blow the whistle that appeared to center on federal speech headline, the media are lying to you about everything including the riots, but google never actually imposed penalty and we are back with the federalist ben domenech, do you see google all too willing to stick it to conservative website and given the way it dominates the online end market, how seriously would this have damaged the federalist if google imposed penalty? ben: significant hit, we could have survived it but it would have been significant. silencing and deplatforming effort that is we have seen happen in academia and now that

has migrated in halls of media corporations and in the case of google, the most powerful company in the world. this -- in this story we saw a left-wing reporter at the behest of left-wing organization trying to get the federalist deplatformed for our content. now as happens because we were able to intervene in different ways, pushed back against it this didn't end up playing out and got closer than expected and these can be manipulated which you can't have any platform for view. howie: nbc was open, far right side, what do you make of news organizations trying to stick it to a news opinion and commentary outlet that happens to be conservative? ben: the reporter in question

tweeted out thanks to collaboration to left-group in question clearly indicating that she was trying to blow the whistle on something that shouldn't be allowed to exist in terms of our publication, look, i think this is just a huge warning and the reaction that we've seen from politicians both on the left and the right to this has been one of significant frustration and concern about these new ramifications for potentially lots of different media outlets that survive thanks to the google ad platform. i think you are going to see additional questions brought in hearings that google participates going forward. attorney general barr spoke about it with maria bartiromo this morning, their own concerns about section 230 reform, potentially opening up a lot of the aspects. i think that we are going to see a real reaction from government and this was a warn shot for everybody who has views contrarian to existing corporate media narrative. howie: i've got half a minute. nbc and your side seem to agree

that it was about a piece criticizing the media coverage naming nbc contributor of the protest to have riots, google came back, this is about your comment section, which was it? ben: i think that this might have spin on google's part and try not to make it about content. we removed our comment section for the moment but we will be bringing it back, we do not believe that people should be prevented from sharing their views just because internet, big-tech giants think it's inappropriate. next on media buzz, mixed media reviews, coverage of the protests after atlanta officer is charged with murder in the fatal shooting of a black man.

howie: as the country struggles through another week of racial

protest and violence the president signed police reform. >> to all hurting families, i want you to know that all americans mourn by your side, your loved ones would not have died in vain, we are one nation. americans want law and order, they demand law and order. they may not say it, they may not be talking about it but that's what they want. >> donald trump did something that he would not have done but for these protests. he took some government action against police brutality. >> we are winning. donald trump had no plan a month ago to work on this issue at all. >> president trump did not address the issue of systematic racism in american police -- policing because he and apologist and top aides don't believe it exists. >> pay no attention to trump's

actual accomplishments, the outcomes. none of it. just ignore it all. instead stick with the twisted fantasy that president trump is really in heart of hearts wants to work against people of color. howie: joining us to analyze the coverage in new york kat timpf, and here in washington richard fowler, radio talk show host and fox news contributor. kat, some liberal commentators crediting president trump for at least taking a first step on police reform. kat: i think that's really great to see because personally my views on criminal justice reform have been for years, been a huge issue for me for a long time are not really represented by either major party. ii would like to decriminalize all drugs, but at the same time, when i see progress, you have to be happy about it. if i looked at every bill and every piece of legislation that

came out of major parties and just got mad about what was u.s. stock market futures -- wasn't in them and i would be mad all of the time. howie: we don't want that. kat: it has more than we had before and that's excellent. howie: richard, the trump order about using federal fund to create incentives and national database that doesn't plan police chokeholds as the democratic bill does but it's impossible now to say that the president has done nothing or is doing nothing? >> richard: you're right, i think it's good first half step maybe. i'm happy the president made reforms on action policing, it sort of has the -- i wouldn't call it a loophole but a gaping hole, an officer can use a chokehold if and when they feel life is in danger and with the

problem with the doctrine is this, every time we see the cases come up whether alton sterling, the case of eric gardner, whether it be the case of george floyd, whether all of these cases, you hear officers repeat over and over again, i felt like my life was in danger. i didn't mention the case of mcdonnell, multiple officers and one young man with a knife. multiple officers, their vehicles were there and they said their life was in danger and they chose to shoot him. we have to figure out how we do it right. howie: doesn't solve the problem. again, how much the overwhelming media coverage of police brutality and racism create an atmosphere that we see republicans have a bill, mitch mcconnell came out and said this is not just messaging, we want to pass a law, is coverage a big factor there? kat: i think it certainly is and it's not just -- it's not just on the federal level, either on the local level, for example, in tennessee, this is something i've been writing about for

years, draconian drug-free school zone laws, for years you could get huge penalties just happening near a school even if you were at your own home and these laws, mandatory minimum that is put you in prison for a long time, look at calvin, for example, he's free but spent too much time in prison and intended to punish people who were having drugs around kids. if someone is in their own home, they are not going to be -- it's not going to affect the kid, so now they have to -- in order institute mandatory minimums -- howie: let me jump in. all right. just briefly, richard, i want to get to atlanta. haven't we seen the media waves before after mass shooting where everybody talks about reform and nothing happens, the press moves on and the issue phase?

>> richard: usually. after people watched the tape of george floyd where the police officer had his knee in his neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds, we are in a different lexicon. covid-19 has impacted african-american households more so than subgroup population, we have a -- disproportionately rather. there's a real moment here that the media will continue to have to cover because people will continue protesting until they see action, both on the state and local level as kat pointed out. howie: all right, so let me turn to the charges filed this week by county prosecutors in atlanta in the shooting death of rayshard brooks, one of the officers charged with murder. i still can't believe that finding a drunk guy in a car escalates where he ends up dead. at the same time you look at surveillance video that everybody seems, brooks did get into the scuffle, was fleeing, turned back and fired it at one

of the officers, kat, are the media kind of dismissing the argument that this officer might have been fearful for his life? kat: i think that nothing really shows the desperate need that we have for nuance in discussion than a case like this. you watch the video, it's absolutely awful for a dui arrest end up someone dying. you see him being shot in the back, it's horrific. awful, i've said that, maybe you shouldn't drive drunk and take a cop's taser. i agree. how are those mutually exclusive. we need to focus on solutions because that's how we stop things from happening again. howie: of course, he wasn't driving and he was in a parking lot. the president talked about this case. i want to play the sound for you. >> i thought it was a terrible situation but you can't resist a police officer and if you have a disagreement, you have to take it up after the fact.

it was a very sad, very, very sad thing. i hope he gets a fair shake because police have not been treated fairly in our country. howie: so richard, some in the press are saying the president is so propolice, he doesn't care about rayshard books, your quick thoughts? >> richard: it was a terrible thing but when i disagree with the president is where would he take issue after the fact. record of misconduct, record of excess i have use of force, clearly wasn't taken after the fact, not the mention the fact that he opened door where two people's vehicles were hit. he endangered the lives of citizens in the parking lot. it speaks to the problem, we have to condemn wrong when it's wrong. when police officers do wrong and when other folks do wrong, we have got to condemn it and not only because of them but ensure that we act upon it because we are a country of rules and laws. howie: some on the right unloading on two conservative

justices after the supreme court rulings on gay rights and dreamers and along with presidential tweet storm, we will look at the coverage next. my age-related macular degeneration could lead to vision loss.

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administration didn't take adequate steps to end daca program which protected dreamers from deportation. president ripped the rulings and called them shotgun blasts as for people who call themselves republicans or conservatives. >> the violent rhetoric is the sort of thing that you would expect from authoritarian leader. >> jeff justice john roberts joining liberals taking argument that benefited the obama administration. howie: and the president made personal tweet, do you get the impression that the supreme court doesn't like me, kat timpf, some conservative commentators harshly criticizing neil gorsuch and john roberts. didn't they pledge to review everything on case-by-case basis, roberts call it balls and strikes, should pundits be slamming them as betraying the

cause when they're supposed to act as justices? kat: right, the supreme court is not supposed to be political one way or another. they are not supposed to like you or not like you. it's not suppose to be about that but the whole discussion was political on someone who stands with dreamers, the people are not criminals, they came with kids, if your parents say you're moving, you have to move. at the same time you look at it this was done by executive order, why couldn't it have been done by executive order. that would be better than making it political than we see both sides doing when we discuss these things? howie: the case began with much-criticized obama executive order. richard, impressed with gorsuch and roberts because they voted the way they prefer?

>> richard: i think the american people are covering where the people are. if you look issues, they are in support of gay folks, lgbtq not being fired and protected by the law and kat pointed out, people who came to the country at no fault of their own staying here you read the resultings of justice roberts in the daca case, he's very clear, this is not about the political nature of daca, this is about how this administration operated and the media i think has missed that coverage because this is a larger problem whether it's john bolton's book, whether it's other issues. the problem here is how donald trump and his administration operates, do they abide by the law, do they follow the rules and a lot of times they don't and this is why the supreme court ruled against this in this particular case. howie: it is true. this was a procedural ruling, trump said it was a victory because they yourself have to refile the paperwork but it was a setback no question about it. kat, immigration faded as point

and do you think that they will make it hot campaign issue going into the fall? kat: it may, i never try to guess anymore because things change quickly. howie: take a guess. kat: some of the reporting, new york times headline, supreme court says trump can't end daca and changed to can't immediately end daca, so it was more complicated. we have to focus on the law and not just political. howie: and richard, you talked about the dreamers and the media loves this controversy but i think the reason this may not go on forever is that nobody actually really whether it's donald trump or the republicans and democrats wants to kick 700,000 or 800,000 dreamers out of the country as you say they they were brought here as kids and you can certainly criticize the parents for breaking the law. trump ended the program but he says he wants to forge a

compromise. >> richard: i hope there's a compromise, but let's be very clear. this president tweets every single day law and order and here lies the problem, he's a hypocrite because he doesn't abide by the same law and orders that he tweets about because if he did his decision on daca would have stood, right, if he did we wouldn't having every time we go to supreme court ruling against the president because he's chosen not to follow the rules even though he's asking the american people to follow those rules. howie: kat, i have 20 seconds, i don't think that makes a person a hypocrite that he tried to end the program that was imposed by executive order and of course, the supreme court has final say, your thought. kat: i think for the dreamers they need the protection to be done -- that can only be done through congress. i think they should legislate something here rather than get in the political fights over executive order here, executive over there. it doesn't make sense. he couldn't undo it because obama could do it.

it's congress' job to do that. >> richard: i agree there. howie: got to go, still to come, trump campaign wants to pick the debate moderators and twitter clashing with the president again over a bogus cnn video. stay with us.

♪ ♪ >> it's no secret president trump wasn't especially happy with the moderators of the 2016 debates who were tapped from nbc, abc, cnn and fox. now "the new york times" reports his campaign is asking the commission on presidential debates to let him and joe biden pick the 2020 moderators. that's contrary why the bipartisan commission was

created to take politics out of such decision, we will see, and the trump campaign wants 4 debates not the usual 3, requested a challenger usually makes to get more exposure. twitter has, again, slapped a warning label on a presidential post in which trump used obviously doctored video to take a whack at cnn and the media. ♪ >> why do stars fall down from the sky every time -- [music] howie: twitter said that violated policy between manipulated media and facebook and twitter removed on copyright grounds after complaint from one of the toddlers, cnn covered the story, two toddlers embracing each other and urged the president to be better. press secretary kayleigh mcenany defended the video when pressed by cnn's jim acosta.

>> seems as though he's exploiting children to make some sort of political point, why is he sharing fake videos? >> he was making a point about cnn specifically. he was making a point that cnn has regularly taken him out of context. i think the president was making a point that was quite funny. howie: well, whether you find it funny or sad, trump knows how to get attention. the fathers of those kids are pretty upset. abc news has suspended barbara after huff post reported that she made insensitive and racist comments. the site says during contract talks with roberts, for example, it wasn't as if the network was asking her to pick and candice gibson, abc spends more on toilet paper than on him. spent millions of dollars on

settlements with former staffers. >> i was disappointed and saddened and hurt when i learned about the racist comments that were made allegedly about me and my colleagues and my dear friends. >> i don't think she's a racist. everything i know about her doesn't say that she has this in her. howie: abc says they are serious allegations and does not present bios and fedida is proud of work, unlike heartbreaking and misleading claims about me that track record is well documented and undeniable, very unfortunate situation that abc is taking seriously. that's it for this edition of media buzz, i'm howard kurtz, happy father's day, let's

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eric: well, noon east, 11:00 a.m. in tulsa but you know everywhere across our great nation it is father's day, happy father's day everyone, millions of people stayed up last night to watch kickoff rally. he roared in tulsa, oklahoma holding major event in months because of coronavirus pandemic. the president addressed all all the key issues of the day and then some before thousands of cheering supporters but, you know, the campaign was stung by a lot of empty seats in the nosebleeds section and the planned outdoor event was scrapped. hello, everyone, welcome to