will see you next fox news sunday. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> hello america i'm mark levin. this is life, liberty and levin. see this, this is my mostly peaceful protest. i'm sick and tired of this country being torn down. i'm sick and tired of hearing from people in the streets about how awful our history is, i'm sick and tired of pampered multimillionaire athletes telling us about systemic racism, i'm sick and tired of the media which just

repeats the same propaganda as the left and so are millions and millions of you. we are hard-working americans, we are good people. we've gone all over the globe to protect people. we have people all over the globe right now who are putting their life on the line to protect people of different religions, different races, liberty, i'm sick and tired of our flag being disrespected, of the national anthem being disrespected, three members of my family fought in world war ii. three of them. they are my hero. not colin kaepernick, a third-rate quarterback. three members served in the philadelphia police force. they're all gone and they served honorar honorably. i stand with the cops, not against the cops. i don't stand in with anyone who is a racist or a bad anything. whether their lawyers or doctors or professors or teachers or cops but this is a

great society, and imperfect society but it is a great society. this flag is my peaceful, mostly peaceful protest and that's why it sits right here nobody's going to knock it off. take a knee now i'm being told know that has nothing to do with the military. nothing to do with the flag. don't hand me that. were pulling down monuments whether or not their part of the confederacy or part of the union. were trashing monuments, abraham lincoln in washington with all the others, this is an attack on the core values and principles of the society. nothing less and we the people need to stand up to this and we need to object to this because this doesn't represent the vast majority of americans. it does represent the vast unme majority of the media and academia and students, but that not the rest of america. that's a fact. so tonight what i decided to do is look at two areas.

there are two outstanding scholars. the first person i want to introduce you to come a distinguished professor of university of california santa. [inaudible] he wrote a breakdown. [inaudible] professor ellis, i want to welcome you and i want to read to the audience just th the way this out and then throw it to you. one of the paragraphs at the beginning of your first chaptechapter of your outstanding book. you write the assault on freedom of expression in the public sphere is best regarded as a relatively superficial symptom of much larger problems that need to be understood and dealt with before we will ever be able to restore general respect for freedom of speech on our campuses. if tomorrow every campus in the nation were to start ensuring that visiting speakers are never again shouted down, the underlying sickness of higher education

would remain untouched. we cannot understand the nature of the sickness until we ask why is free-speech constantly under threat on campuses. why do shutdowns and near riots occur with such regularity. these questions lead to the broader subject of how higher education has been so thoroughly corrupted and diverted from its real purpose. this book came out this year but before a mostly peaceful protest in the riots we've seen in the past couple weeks. let me through throw it to you. what exactly are you talking about that's taking place on our college campuses. >> what i'm talking about is the fact that the public sees the shutdowns in the near riots with regard to visiting speakers, but it doesn't think about how that could happen and you've got students who are actually doing it in those

cases, but they're taught by a radical professor so that the real source of the problem is not the shutdowns. the source of the problem is in the classroom where those kids learn the contempt for ideas that don't fit with what their professors are teaching them so you are seeing a superficial symptom. the real problem is in the classroom which the public never sees and the faculty. >> it strikes me professor, if you disagree, it's very incestuous when you have a faculty member from the same university or ideology, you can see today you have certain faculty members that don't fit in with the hard left ideology , there being pushed out of the universe, there being boycotted by the students, there's all kinds of pressure and threats, how did it come to be. how did it come to be that what we used to talk about academic freedom really doesn't exist and we have really one ideological mindset at this point.

>> well you've had a very long campaign of converting them into one party campuses. if you go back 50 years, a study done in 19693 left. [inaudible] by the end of the century 1999 another study finds that ratio of three to do which was very mild and now it's three to two, that's consistent with a very healthy debate between left and right on campus but by the end of the century 1999 a study shows five to one so you've got a very great concentration building up. another six years later it's gone 821 and the current studies being done are coming out showing something like 13 to one. now there's every reason to

believe that's getting more extreme all the time because one of these studies looked to the junior rank, the assistant professors, associate professors and found that the ratio there of left to right is 48 to one. so another words the hiring being done now is at the rate of about 50 to one, not five to one or 81. so you're gonna wind up with a complete monoculture. now, everyone can see, anyone with a brain can see that's very unhealthy. you can't have a serious debate about the issues of the day when one party is missing. now what i find really, really strange about this is this, that everyone can see that it's wrong, that it's unhealthy and no one does a

thing to stop it. professors, administrators who see this happening and they don't lift a finger to stop progressing toward a complete one party campus. a one-party campus is a campus that's dysfunctional. >> bernie sanders said everybody ought to go to college free. i got to thinking why does he want everybody to go to college. is it because it's indoctrination and brain washing with groupthink, i think so, and when i watch the so-called peaceful part of the mostly peaceful protests, i see what appeared to be a lot of college students, so probably some college professors and members of the nea and the. [inaudible] since school is out in the end it's been out for very long time. what are these professors, as an aggregate, what are they teaching them about economics,

what are they teaching about history. is it similar to the new york times project that america began in 1619 with slavery and that's in our dna, there's not a damn thing we can do about it, is that the kind of indoctrination that's going on? >> it is indeed. i think you can bet on the fact that most of, almost insane left radical ideas that are floating to the surface in the wider world, ultimately from the campus. the campus is, the campus is so far left, so irrational now that it is poisoning the culture. one profession after another is being essentially corrupted. >> you know professor, i happen to know a few young people who are going to universities, one of them is a law student, one of them is a medical student, one is an undergraduate student, and they all told me if they don't

keep their politics they're not necessarily concerned but they're not radical left, if they don't keep their politics to themselves they are literally shunned. or worse, they're not invited to any events and we keep funding these institutions. there is really no oversight, they have massive endowments from corporations and nonprofit organizations, congress never looked at them, state legislatures never look at them, and they have enormous costs as they keep expanding and getting bigger and bigger. there has to be some kind of oversight on this, or some kind of competition, don't you think? >> that's the problem. academia is a very fashion driven place. you can bet that if a new politically correct folly rises on one campus it will

spread to the other campuses very rapidly so you don't have competition in the sense that you have a rational institution competing with an irrational institution. they all essentially adopt the same rationality very quickly. with competition it can be very difficult thing to do precisely because the contagion spreads throughout the academia so rapidly, but if you have a one-party campus, that is by definition an irrational campus. you cannot have a one-party system that stays sane. my favorite court on this is john stuart mill who said you will always need to have a healthy political state you always need a party of order and stability on one hand and a party of progress and reform on the other and then he said that it's precisely the opposition of the one to the other that keeps each one of

them within the bounds of reason and sanity. now that strong language. what is really saying is you take away one of those parties which is what you've done on the university campuses, you take one party away and the other one goes insane for lack of discipline of having to answer to the arguments of the other. and that's where we are. we have a completely irrational campus. >> there's no end in sight. if anything it's getting worse as the ratio of left to right professors increases and we've reached a point now where even though there is still a few left, most of them stay silent and you see the occasional example of one that doesn't stay silent and he's usually made an example of which keeps

the others quiet. >> so we don't have academic freedom, we don't have free speech, the tax payers keep subsidizing this and maybe the taxpayers should start taking a look at this. we'll be right back. tinopathy. serious side effects mayy. include pancreatitis. taking trulicity with sulfonylurea or insulin raises low blood sugar risk.

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welcome back. professor ellis, before the break i was talking about we seem to be subsidizing our own demise, whether it's our federal and state tax dollars going into the schools, whether it's paint parents paying tuition or other people paying tuition, and you send your kids into the schools and many come out quite differently ideologically. why do we keep doing this and is there something else we can do about it. >> you're right, part of the problem is that old habits die hard. parents have a very fixed attitude from the past that sending their kids to college is a first-rate way to launch them into a life in a career, and then there's the fact that the great names of institution, harvard, yale, columbia, the buildings, everything it's all very, very

impressive, it's also kind of a spell over the public. they really cannot believe. [inaudible] now, there are some signs though that the public is changing its attitude. there's a study done of children in higher education, nine years ago 2011, there were 20 and a half million students in higher education. today that number is down to 17 and a half million, but if you're just for the increase in population, actually that should be, there should have been again so there are 4 million students missing. it is true that the public is becoming more skeptical, but

the simple outline of the situation is this. parents, through tuition, students through life in college, donors and state legislatures all contribution vast sums of money to higher education and they're not getting it. what's happening instead is a good chunk of that money, the majority of it is an involuntary campaign contribution to the radical left. the public has to wake up and realize that it is paying lots of money to support something it doesn't want to support and state legislatures need to get busy on looking very seriously into whether the appropriations that they make for funding higher education,

whether they're really supporting that or not. >> and professor if you dare to touch it they say your attacking academic freedom which, of course this ideology is destroying. this ideology were talking about, i'll just lay it out. you can tell me whether you agree or disagree. if it's not flat out marxism, it's some version of it, i mean when i see the protesters in the street, what they're talking about, if they burn down what exists, everything that must exist, the present moscow, the history must go, pull down the hot statue, chills all out the name and then will start new. that comes right out of the communist manifesto. destroy the society that exists, family churches and everything else and start with this clean slate. is that what they're being taught. >> i'm afraid so. some of the professors, a quarter of them maybe at least

in some areas, sociology for example that's certainly true, some teach what are marxist ideas but wouldn't call themselves marxists, they would call themselves socialists or activists but the end result is certainly the majority opinion on campuses is to re- make the society into something it isn't. to abolish the current capitalist system, what intelligent people call a free market system, and to remake it in the image that these radicals have. if you asked them what that image is, you still will get very bag replies because in fact, once you've described the conditions in a socialist country, they know very well that doesn't go over very well, but there is an angst

against the way the country is and has been for some time and the radical left is seizing the opportunity now to press its case and it feels, it's essentially taken over the academic world. it is now both camp for political radicalism. it's no longer a place that prepares children for the careers they're facing come the lives they're facing, the mental equipment to face new challenges, to analyze new situations, to respond to new challenges that they face. that's not happening. i mean when a political activists tells you to get in line behind them and join the cause, higher education is stuck dead. there is no development of mental capacity involved in that. on the contrary it's the other way around. they're telling you to stop thinking, just do as you're told. >> professor, a society can't

survive very long when it's children and grandchildren are taught to hate it. to hate every bit of it. this is becoming ubiquitous not only in universities and colleges but you can see it in the media, you can see it in hollywood, you have people who live in the lap of luxury in the society, whatever the race, who claim to be joining these revolutionary movements. it's almost chic, it's almost the cool thing to do, but were doing, we were losing the culture. >> i'm afraid so. the academia is poisoning one profession after another. it totally poison journalism, it's poison the teaching in high schools because high school teachers are all trained on college campuses, and the society needs to wake up and decide whether it

really wants to pay these vast sums of money to support this apparatus. now one has to face the fact that the one-party campus is made precisely because those ideas don't stand up to challenge very well. it's the radicals allowed of faulty debate on campus they'd lose. they'd always lose. the only way they can win is by shutting out people with other ideas and that's what they're doing. the public has to throw off the spell created and face the fact that that's the past. the present is quite different. >> i agree. maybe great names like hillsdale and grove city. professor ellis, fantastic book, the breakdown of higher education, hugely important and i want to thank you for your bravery in coming on this program. a blessing.

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live from america's news headquarters. the coronavirus infection as the u.s. adds more than 31000 cases on saturday. the total number nationwide

now stands at more than 2.2 million with almost 120,000 deaths. the new york area has been able to flatten the curve on a daily death toll is down. outside of the epicenter hotspots are merging all over the country and places like florida, georgia and arizona. eleven people were hurt and one killed in an overnight shooting in minneapolis. witnesses say at least two groups of people were shooting at one another. suspects remain unknown. it took place in the uptown section of minneapolis at a popular destination with bars and restaurants. i'm ashley, now back to life, liberty and levin. >> welcome back. we have covered half of the problem, maybe more than half in there's many parts of the problem, but that's academia and the ubiquitous brainwashing that's going on

and how it affects the entirety of society. the other half of this is the media, such as it is and there's nobody better. tim is a professor of economics at george mason university, chair at the marquita center, and he's written a fantastic book and i even cited in my book, unfreedom of the press. it's called left turn, how bias distorts the mind and impart it says, what happens when our view of the world that's filtered through the eyes, ears and minds of such a liberal group. he says as i demonstrate using objective scientific methods, it prevents us from seeing the world as it actually is. instead we see only a distorted version of it.

it is as if we see the world through a glass, a glass that magnifies the facts that liberals want us to see and shrinks the fact that conservatives want us to see. he writes later perhaps worst of all media bias feeds on itself, that is the bias makes us more liberal which makes us less able to detect the bias which allows the media to get away with more bias which makes us even more liberal and so on. all of this means that the political views that we currently see in americans are not there natural views. we see only an artificial distorted version of those views. professor, welcome and let me suggest to you i'd like your take on this that it's worse now than ever, particularly given the fact that we have donald trump as our president. do you agree? >> i agree completely. yes. this whole point about tom cotton, you remember when the new york times said we can't run that op ed, do you remember who protested, it wasn't the opinion writers of the new york times, it was the journalists, it was the news writers. the point in my book is that i ask the thought experiment. say you read the content from journalists and you asked the content that instead of knowing it was a new story,

what if instead you thought it was a speech by a politician. what would you guess is the ideology of that would be politician and one thing i found my book, i said all the major media to the left, but not quite as left as a mainstream democrat. but the new york times journalist did, i would argue was even less, more left what the average democrats in congress are doing. just watch anytime on c-span whenever there's a major bill, nancy pelosi, steny hoyer, whenever they introduce a bill the democrats will say two hours from the day, the first thing they do is say i give half my retirement to the republican. new york times journalist, that was just beyond the pale, they wouldn't even think of giving any time to someone like tom cotton. so i would argue the new york times journalist, although maybe when i wrote my book they acted not quite as left as the average democrats in congress. now they're acting even more

left than the average democrats in congress. >> but doesn't that demonstratunderscore one of the points in your book edits eating worse and worse, less in terms of diversity and tolerance and more ideological? >> yes, i agree so people are getting their information from the mainstream media but they have no idea what's going on on the other side. >> one little anecdote on this, there's a scholar named john who is a professor at columbia university, i would call him something of a right-leaning moderate. he's an afghan american man and he wrote about the police killings and he said yes, i'm not sure the police are racist, but where are the names of the white people being killed. he said i think there really is a problem. after he said that though, people sent in here are the white people killed he got this list and he said wow, i didn't know of this because we

only hear about the black people that are killed and sure enough, some that have been reporting these statistics by the washington post, they gathered this database from 2015 commented 2019 of all the police killings and you look at these numbers and it's actually white people have been killed, of all the police killings, about 50% are white. only about 25% are black. but the news is incredibly disproportionate. you only see the black killings so if your information only came from mainstream media you would think only black people are being killed by the police when that's not the case at all. so it's one more example of media bias. >> let me just interrupt you there and what the statistics actually show is that police are not running around killing people so we need to be very

clear about that because in this movement that's talking about disbanding police and so forth, people were running around killing people are the people in the streets, people in neighborhoods, people and communities who are running around killing people but the police are not running around killing people, and back to your book, so we have this false reality that's fed to us each and every day, congress acts on it, they can't act fast enough, they want to create new holiday holidays, they want to nationalize local policing, the fact that these cities are run by hard-core left-wing democrats and many of these states are as well and they take no responsibility for it whatsoever, how does the average person out there get factual information? there certainly not getting it from newsrooms in this country. >> that's part of my book, to try to actually give numbers and say this is the extent to which this media outlet is left or this is the extent that it is rightward and i put

numbers on these so lots of people say if you just watch fox news. [inaudible] part of the point of my book is that is not quite true. at least it's limited in the data that i had but i only analyzed one fox news show, the special report at the time and i found that yes that show was rightward leaning, it had if anything a conservative bias, but it's conservative bias was less, something like half of the liberal bias of the mainstream media so it puts numbers on this, i found new york times was about 25% biased to the left whereas special report was only about eight points bias to the right so if you wanted a balance set of news, what it means is you would have to watch special report about three times as many minutes in special report

as you would the new york times if you wanted to get a perfectly balanced version of the news. >> when we come back, my question to you is this. that's the new york times. cnn, msnbc, to me i don't break it down the way you do with your models it is a never ending drumbeat. we'll be right back. air. [ chuckles ] whoo. i'm gonna grow big and strong. yes, you are. i'm gonna get this place all clean. i'll give you a hand. and i'm gonna put lisa on crutches! wait, what? said she's gonna need crutches. she fell pretty hard. you might want to clean that up, girl. excuse us. when owning a small business gets real, progressive helps protect what you built with customizable coverage. -and i'm gonna -- -eh, eh, eh. -donny, no. -oh.

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i think it used to be they would say were balanced but after trump they would say of course were not balanced. we have to oppose trump. that's what we should do, that's the proper and moral thing to do. so at least now they admit it. >> what about this diversity in newsrooms. i don't see a whole lot. i can name a lot of left-wing posts and big-time contributors. basically what i see is they have a dancing conservative go across the stage every now and then but it's about it. what can be done about this. these are private corporations. >> what can be done come about the hard one. the diversity isn't there come about as true so statistics, it's the newsroom, anything

that has to do with politics it will be about 93 - 7. they asked the journalist how you voted in the last election, only 7% republican. i think 7% is actually a little bit artificially high. i explained in my book, if journalists are lying, even a small degree to the survey, the pollsters come about 7% will be too high. you look at campaign contributions in the numbers like two or 3%. the newsroom is only two or 3% people who vote republican. here's how low that number is. here's one example. if you watch the view on abc. >> i don't but go ahead. john mccain's daughter, she's the one conservative and it's

so unfair when you watch the debate. i can't stand to watch it. now those numbers are for - 1. now to get what would actually be in the mainstream newsroom it would actually be 12 to one so take the view, take all those for liberals, clone them two times so you get 12 liberals versus that one megan mccain. that would be what a typical newsroom would be like and that 7% number, it's more like 40 to one. in the newsroom it's just overwhelmingly left. what can be done about it? i'm not sure except that people are onto it. i think the average voter no longer thanks the new york times is the paper of record, that it is fair and balanced. that they realize it is the voice of the left and i think

because of this and other factors, i think a lot of these mainstream outlets are just going to start dying off. it will take a long time, i've calculated the half-life of journalists out of mainstream newsroom is something like 15 or 20 years. if you go out 15 years, the new york times will have only half its journalist so it will gradually wither away, but i think it will be here for a while and i don't quite have any answer of what to do about it except maybe just make people aware of the bias and then at least then moderate voters and conservatives will say well yeah but there is a bias to the left but at least we can discount it. i know they're not telling me the whole truth. i think that's about the best we can do. >> when we come back, my question professor is this. we actually have a free press in america. i don't mean government

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>> in the strictest sense, i don't think government will be involved. there is a self-censorship, a mob censorship. i would've never imagined the nongovernment entity could do this. if you are a conservative, i'm sure the pure pressure on them to squelch their views, i see it in academia. some things there are just things you won't daresay. professor at the university of chicago who just lost his job or was being pressured to quit as the editor, basically all he did was rude to tweet criticizing, basically only

saying that he was against black lives matter, there was a mob that rose rose up against him. his career will be hurt. everyone kind of understands this, everyone is walking on pins and needles and i have a feeling in journalism. so given that there is no freedom of the press. the one hope is talk radio. there are still a few outlets out there. the internet and social media will be a savior. i am very skeptical about twitter. i am on twitter and i will sometimes look at tweets and then i'll look at my search engine and i can't find them.

i've talked to other conservatives and same thing. i think something weird is going on with facebook, google something similar is going on. so given that, the social media is not allowing us to have a free press. even though strictly speaking the government is not cracking down, these other forces that i would not of imagined, i think we are in a sad situation. >> i think the radical progressives have done a hell of a job in academia and devouring the media and you look at journalists, professors, people come to mind like jay rosen and that whole breed of thinking your social activist community to advance a cause, john dewey, name thing you gotta change education and media to advance a social agenda, it's taken

hold in this country in a big big way. these institutions of higher education, academic freedom, there's very little academic freedom, very little free speech. you expect the media standing up for free speech, standing up for civil liberty, they don't do it. when you look at the russia collision that took place when you have the fbi going into a campaign and have other things going on, wet rather than reporting on it there participating on it so this is why i say we don't have a free press and of course we have a free press in the sense that the government isn't slapping down media organizations although obama did that and fdr did that, no, what we have is the complete lack of professionalism, the diversity of viewpoints. i want to thank you very much. i want to strongly recommend people take a look at it.

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horrible country, then why do people want to come here. the hard left as a political party that is the vessel through which they operate it's the democrat party. whether it's during the civil war in the 1960s and today, it can be found mostly where, i'm telling you the truth, the democrat party is the counter revolution party. we should embrace our liberty. we should embrace our constitution. that is what stands between us and tierney emanuel give a damn what football players in nba players or overpaid media personalities that cnn have to say about it either and i sure don't give a damn about a president who seats in his basement all the day like he's in a padded cell pushing out statements left and right.

we need to push back when we see it. i will see you next time on "life, liberty & levin". good evening everyone and welcome to the next revolution this is the home of positive population. pro-work, pro-family, pro-community, and especially pro-america. well, the 2020 campaign is back on a vote for republican is about for better schools, better jobs, safer families and stronger communities for all americans with your help we will lift millions of our citizens from welfare to work, dependence to independence and poverty to prosperity.