all-time highs today. optimism about the economy and everything opening up and that will continue. we shall see. here comes of what the five. ♪ >> greg: hi, i'm greg gutfeld with jesse watters, dana perino, juan williams, and katie pavlich. "the five." turn on the news and what do you see? destruction of public property after destruction of private property. but it makes sense, if you've grown tired of human victims, why not turn to the inanimate to satisfy your violent urges? know monument is safe, even though statue of a famous abolitionist was defaced by the being turned out by politically correct universities after

entire cities overgrowth violent occupiers and people get pulled out of cars and stopped. the media sees evil in trump and his supporters who are doing this at all. so 2020 offered two events. the pandemic and this unending chaos. the first revealed a profound unity, a country banding together at great risk to its economy to fight killer. we all put on our masks. what's the opposite? you're seeing that now, the mob. mindless indulgent rage camouflaged as protest. instead of banding together to solve a problem, the mob celebrates the idea of no solution, only turmoil. hence the daily distraction. and the media, which is irredeemably stupid, encouraged this by promoting the idea that america is irredeemably racist. two movements. one is about protecting the vulnerable. the other tearing down anything in its way and of the two, who

is the manipulative media backing? those who destroy. it's not really about statues at all, it's about the great unraveling. we are watching the left get a hold of that loose thread and pull and when the adults are too scared to respond, the sweater dissolves right before your very eyes. let's go to president trump, some thoughts on the statue-taker downers. that's a word. >> long-term jail sentences for these vandals and these hoodlums and these anarchists and agitators, call them whatever you want. some people don't like that language but that's what they are, they are bad people, they don't love our country and they're not taking down our monuments. we will have an executive order very shortly and all it's really going to do is reinforce what's already there but in a more uniform way.

>> greg: dana, i want you to comment on what president trump said but also i have a solution for all of this. why not put a term limit or something on the sins of the monument? statue of limitations? what do you think? >> dana: i like it very much, you've always had a great way with words and that's a good one. a couple thoughts, i don't think the president needs to do an executive order but i do think the prosecutor is absolutely must follow through. i am concerned about a place like new york city if this continues, you have a situation where there is no bail, people that are booked get turned back out on the street with no care and it doesn't matter what they're doing so there's that. the other thing is i think this is a tipping point where you might see some people who don't want their churches to be vandalized.

what if they decide to fight back? and i think that is a possibility. the third thing i would say is that this is an opportunity for former vice president joe biden to give a speech of some sort. where he says where he stands on this issue. and i'm assuming that he would probably agree with president trump on a lot of this. that actually might be quite a unifying thing that we need at this moment. >> greg: i could see joe biden going outside and making a speech and the protesters try to tear him down, mistaking him for a monument. dana made a really good point about the churches and you are assuming like activist shawn king moving now from the political or historical figures, religious figures, mentioning jesus christ as the next monument or stained glass that should be taken down.

>> jesse: i don't think he represents anything more than himself and he's made some very provocative statements in the past and i wouldn't focus on that. let's focus on what the president said, the president is trying to demonize protesting in this country and i think that what the president is doing as a guy who is politically at sea end looking for somebody he can beat up on and say he's the man for law and order. i will agree with your monologue in the sense that i think mobs should not be tearing down anything, that's an invitation to anarchy and i think we can have acts of protest and civil disobedience that are orderly and allow us to express any grievance we have with the policies of our government but i think there is something to be said about the statues and i really want to drive this home. one, most of the statues to confederate generals and the

like were put up during the reconstruction period when there was a big effort, and much of the self to go after the newly freed slaves and the big majority was put up in the '50s in the course of the civil rights era in objection to brown versus board of education and school integration being ordered by the supreme court so to me you have to put these things into context and understand when people talk about these monuments, our heritage, our history, they were put up there as symbols of white supremacy right from the start and this is distortion to say people are trying to go after history. i think people are going after symbols of white supremacy. >> greg: what do you think, jesse? if one is right about this there are a lot of other places that could be under fire, look at the

universities, like yale or rice. >> jesse: exactly, is not just about confederate statues, we said it wasn't going to stop there and it hasn't, this is about a mob that's been indoctrinated to believe the united sets of america is permanently polluted with the stains of racism and slavery and that all of that needs to be demolished. these aren't cultural anthropologists going through and differentiating between grant and jackson and lee and columbus, this is willy-nilly distraction and like you said it, if you want to follow the logic, you can tie anything to slavery. duke university, get rid of madison avenue, the apache helicopter, the masters golf tournament, do you know how many thousands of streets and buildings and cities, will in washington, d.c., are named after people that you can tie somehow to slavery or the

founding of this country? you can't learn from history if you erase it and part of what history is about is learning where you've been, who you are and where you're going and the united states of america, you want to compare the united states to some other countries, the europeans on the look what they did during the imperial era, the japanese did to the chinese, look what china is doing now, look at some muslim countries are african nations, the atrocities they are committing amongst themselves, the mayans and aztecs. it's not a pretty picture, there's a lot of really horrible things that happened, the human race is a violent, violent race. the united states of america is an exceptional nation, and anyone that looks of the history of this country knows why it's exceptional so we should be celebrating why were exception exceptional, not trying to destroy that.

>> greg: katie, last word to you. where do you think is going? >> katie: i think it's going right to the points, you start with the monuments and the memorials and go to the universities and straight to the founding of the country and you have to get rid of the country because of course, it's founders were white supremacists and racists according to the left are today. but i really want to go back to what dana said about people wanting to defend their churches. this idea that these are just protests is devoid of fact when you are rioting and defacing and vandalizing places of worship and lighting fires in the streets outside of those places, it gets really personal for a lot of people very quickly and they will want to fight back and defend what is crucial to them and want to defend what is special to them and they're going to want to defend their country under the first amendment right to worship without feeling intimidated so this is going to a very bad

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sooner. here is the mayor. speak of the continued disorder, the violence and the impacts on residents and businesses are not just at odds with the message of justice and equity, they cannot continue to occur. we are working with the community to bring this to an end. >> dana: greg, who could've ever imagined that violence could have broken out and somebody could end up losing their life? who could have ever imagined? >> greg: she was mocking the people that were predicting this as this was going to happen, no, no, no, this is just a block party. here's what's wrong with this whole thing, they should try it again but they should pool their money together and buy back some cheap land in the middle of nowhere because people used to do this all the time, they were called communes. try to create a commune on other people's property, you don't try to enforce rules in front of

somebodies at store. it is the least persuasive commune in history and it shows you that it was never really about protests, it's about power, they weren't able to persuade anybody of their own ideas they resorted to a kind of force and that's what this was, a few blocks of people trying to impose themselves on other people, just form a commune somewhere, i will help pay for the land. >> dana: they should take you up on that offer. do you think anyone will learn a lesson out of this? >> juan: i'm not sure what the lesson is, dana, i think those young people were involved in an experiment and i think some folks got in there who are agitators and violent and ruin the whole thing so to my mind protests and the whole idea of civil disobedience is so quintessentially american, it's in the constitution, it's our first amendment right, think

about history, everything from rights for women to vote in the 20th century to the civil rights movement, to the march on washington, vietnam tmac anti-vietnam war protest, this stuff goes on. i think when you have encampments like this one in seattle or occupy wall street, at some point if there is violence, the government has every right to step in, i think it's necessary and that's why you saw the mayor, who was open to this, say at this point we've got to stop it. i will make this statement, it's not necessary as we saw here in washington for the police to engage low-flying helicopters, pepper spray, smoke bombs against people who are protesting, that is an overreaction and i think it's provocative and make things worse.

>> katie: they burned the church. >> dana: i think you can separate what happened at lafayette square which was worse than not good from what was happening there, katie, where you have a situation -- i do think everybody saying that you can't have a peaceful protest, they're suggesting maybe you can't do it where you block off all the public property without a permit and don't allow the police in and then laid off fire and call the police department -- it's insanity. >> katie: it is insanity and protesting is not taking over blocks and blocks of public and private property, threatening people with firearms and then refusing to allow the police and medical personnel in when somebody gets shot inside of your commune, it's kind of a fake commune because there asking for capitalist resources like shoes and food and water that comes from the very society they claim to be getting out of but they weren't protesters.

from the beginning they took over unlawfully blocks and blocks of property that they don't own and don't have a right to end as far as the mayor, as far as the mayor, she was endorsing this movement from the beginning. president trump said you need to get it together, this is going to turn out to be sending very dangerous for your city, she brought snark into it and said, well, why are you so afraid of democracy? her job as that mayor is to protect all the citizens of seattle and instead she's been married to this far left marxist narrative of which has gotten people killed now and so that's something she's going to be responsible for about to say this is just a protest is detached from reality. >> dana: there are already longer term consequences, you've had big firms, companies that were planning to either locate or expand in seattle turn tail

and head to arizona because they don't want to put up with this kind of thing. >> jesse: these were largely peaceful shootings, dana, let's be honest about this. and i'm pretty sure they were white supremacists doing the shooting. there were some largely peaceful shakedowns and assaults as well and some of the 911 calls that came in for people that wanted to report crimes, the police couldn't get in there and that's probably a good thing because we don't need more police brutality in the area, i'm just glad the summer of love is over right now, sometimes love is quick, sometimes quicker than you think but that mayor is going to clean this up now. when donald trump offered to clean it up a week before the peaceful homicide, he was just trying to do that to divide and distract, that's the difference. >> dana: i see. i'm glad we came to you last so you can help explain all of that to us. i do have to say that i -- if we

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world, our tests are the best in the world and we have the most of them. by having more tests, we find more cases. we did 25 plus, 25 million tes tests. >> dana: and dr. anthony fauci was on capitol hill today, he was asked if president trump had told task force members to decrease testing. watch this. >> i, as a member of the task force, and my colleagues on the task force, to my knowledge, i know for sure, to my knowledge, none of us have ever been told to slow down on testing, that just as a fact. in fact, we will be doing more testing. >> juan: i just thought, look at the timeline here, the president made a statement in tulsa, then the campaign issues a statement and says he was joking on the president says he

wasn't joking, the media, the democrats, do they tell him to make that statement? what's going on here? >> jesse: i think when the president said that "i told them to stop doing testing," that's going to be in joe biden ad in the fall. obviously were doing more testing than any other country, all of them combined and you understand the president's point is that when you do more testing you get more cases, over 99% of those cases, people fully recover and the media has prepared us that there's going to be new cases, we all expected that but the way the media frames new cases now seems to indicate that we should all stay locked down and the president screwed up and that's just not fair because it feels like politics when they repeat the phrase "new cases, new cases,

new cases" after there were millions of people in the streets over the country, it seems suspicious. we started out with the phrase "cases" and then there was the word "deaths" over and over and then there was ventilators and now we are at "new cases and spike" and i predict in the fall, the phrase of the day is going to be "second wave" and that's just how they play it. >> juan: greg, in fact, if you look at the numbers the president said, we are now per capita on testing where much of the world's, europe, but in europe they are having a declining cases, we are having an increase. what's going on here? what's the difference? speak of the differences, the increase in cases, there are a couple of variables, they are not actually separating the

cases they've already cleared up or healed. they are now at 150,000 cases, it's natural that that will be more than the month before, why isn't anybody talking about the death rate? why isn't anybody talking about the hospitalization rate and instead they are talking about more cases? it's kind of interesting, what you're seeing with the testing, you're going to see the death rate go down. the good news is, obviously it's a percentage of the cases that -- of people being alive is going to go down, the deaths but nobody's telling you what the death rate is. it's weird but the good news is hospitalizations are declining so that cases not important, it's hospitalizations and deaths and i don't know why we don't lead with that information, that would be pretty interesting.

>> juan: i think hospitalizations are down but no one wants to get sick and be in that possible positions are dana, when you hear all these comments from the president about it, i think it invites people, does that mean you are trump supporter or not, is the president here politicizing what should just be a public health discussion? >> dana: i wish the mask thing had not become political and i don't necessarily think it's the president alone that's suggesting that, i do think that if we all want they economy to put back more quickly, and acceptance of masks should be something we are willing to consider and if you don't want to wear one, you don't want to go out, that's okay. buy things online but we've got to get this economy moving on masks can be one way. i want to comment on the communications angle, when the president said on saturday night, i asked my team, so down on testing -- i immediately thought it was a joke, the

white house podium, they put that in a nice little box and jesse suggested that the biting campaign would run, everybody would roll their eyes out, the president was joking, but now is not joking? he wasn't joking that the testing is better and that were doing more testing, the joke was that he told his team to slow down on the testing so his numbers would look better and i don't understand why he felt the need to rub that spot on the wall and i paid a price for 14 years now for telling a joke that was clearly very funny to me but it didn't come across funny and i didn't have anybody defending me telling me, saying that it was a joke for a while, it happened on npr and i've regretted it ever since. when he's going to go forward and have these campaign rallies and he's going to risk, he just has to think about that a little bit.

so he can signal when he's actually joking and let it sit. >> juan: that was really interesting. i'm not sure what to make of that, he's the one that said "i wasn't joking." dana can't get it, i can't get it so we turned to katie pavlich. >> katie: this is one of those situations where you have to look at the results rather than the president did or didn't say whether he was serious or he was joking. the month ago, the complaint was that we had too much testing, now in the president says this, told his team to do fewer tests, it's become an outrage after they cleaned it up. the facts on the ground show that the federal government has followed through with their obligation to get the testing they need through those private and public partnerships,

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♪ >> jesse: contrast between the campaigns, president trump on the road again touring the arizona border and holding a campaign event days after restarting things in tulsa, oklahoma. joe biden, on the other hand,

still stuck in the basement. the former vp leaning on his old pal barack obama to help them out with a virtual fund-raiser that's going on right now. all right, i know you're not going to believe this, he's down in arizona and guess how many miles of new border wall has been erected? you're not going to get it right, i will tell you, 216 new miles of border wall and six different sectors so promises made, promises caps on what you think about all of this? >> juan: that some kind of dream. i was stunned that he's making this claim of 200 miles and what politifact said was about 180 of those miles is simply reinforcing existing wall that predated trump's selection. predated it.

speech you i knew you were going to say this. >> juan: way to! >> jesse: i knew you were going to say this. it >> juan: you had your chance, you made your point, jesse. and i want to -- >> jesse: i will correct you after, you have the floor. >> juan: i appreciate it. my other point to be made is the president is off to arizona, previously he was off to oklahoma. i must say it looks to me like desperation, these are not states where he should be campaigning, he's going back to states where he won an '16 and it looks to me like this guy doesn't know what to do. maybe he should follow joe biden's playbook, maybe that would help him? >> jesse: biden's playbook is

hide in the basement. when one talks about the wall that's already there, the little lean to what structures you can kind of duck under, that's the wall that juan is referring to, that's not an actual wall. what do you think about the difference between the way these guys are campaigning? >> katie: the president visiting the border fence today sends two messages, one is at ease out on the campaign trail and it also shows that he's willing to revisit his campaign promises and say look, i promise this would be built in 2016, here we are and you can count on me to follow through with my campaign promises in the future but the other thing is the biden campaign continues to say that we are virtually campaigning, that is good enough. 7.7 million viewers on fox news and 4 million people tuned in online, 12 million people

watching, close to 13 million. if joe biden wants to talk about virtual comparison, the president is still beating him when it comes to the virtual campaign. speech of that was the highest rated saturday night in the history of fox news, thank you very much. >> greg: congratulations, jesse. could biden be the first virtual presidential nominee? let's say he won, he will probably be the first virtual president because he is actually not really going to be president, we know that. it's going to be whoever the vp is but when you compare the campaigns, donald trump goes to the people. joe can't. we know that, trump is kind of like an outdoor dog at your buddies ranch, like that little canary in the cage at the grandmother's cottage, is trapped there, i think trump

enjoys going out, he likes being around people, he is closer to the street than almost any liberal politician and he's a billionaire and i think it drives him crazy that he knows what the average person's thinking and the average person wants. biden has no idea what's going on in the outside world, one of those guys that thought the war of the worlds was real and hid in the basement for three days and is still there. >> juan: who went in the bunker, greg? i think i saw somebody run into a bunker but i don't think it was joe biden. >> jesse: okay. thanks, juan. dana perino, you think democrats run the risk of pointing the polls right now, do you think may be november 4th, they are going to totally reconsider -- was it a good idea for joe to

spend four months in the basement? maybe that wasn't such a great use of time. >> dana: and it's not just me that thinks that, a lot of reporting this week, from anonymous democratic sources concerned about democrats being over confident, over secure, they don't have the finger on the pulse and i just want to remind people, we've talked about some thing major, something different every single months, january, president trump beat impeachment, if the election were held today he would win they be in a landsli landslide. june, a month from now we could be talking about some thing totally different. there is still a long time between now and november 3rd. and i think the other thing democrats are really worried about is how are people going to

vote? there is a primary in kentucky where you've had very few polling places, a little bit of mail-in balloting and all eyes are going to be looking at that. maybe for both parties but certainly democrats i know are worried about that. >> jesse: all right. wild video of people shooting off fireworks in liberal cities. what are we going to do about that? ♪ tv announcer: come on down to our appliance superstore

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>> katie: crazy scenes of people shooting off illegal fireworks, police complaint skyrocketing in several cities across the country. in new york city, mayor bill de blasio is promising a crackdown after fed up residence protested outside his mansion. looking for a suspect who attacked a sleeping homeless man with a firework, the man reportedly suffering minor injuries. this is i think a combination of criminality, boredom, bad behavior, bill de blasio is

doing something about it now because it was loud outside of his house for one night. >> greg: it's always a horrible story when you see what's happening to the homeless in new york, there basically -- if we actually tackled that problem with the $800 million we gave to the mayor's wife to supposedly tackle this problem you wouldn't see the homeless being murdered or attacked. about fireworks, you know you're old when this bothers you and you know you're young when you want to buy them. i remember when i loved illegal fireworks, the smell of firecrackers with that rice paper and that gunpowder -- i love that smell. and i loved the excitement of buying them illegally from that one guy at school, the one guy at school who would sell them, it was the best. >> katie: always always too afraid to let off fireworks because i was afraid i would

blow my hand off or start a massive forest fire so i avoided both of those things by not buying them. >> dana: you grew up in arizona. i spent my summers in wyoming, yes, we would have some fireworks but only my uncles were the ones that set those off. i like to the safety of the snakes. anybody remember the snakes? you can make them like that, that's my kind of firework. i also realize i'm old, one, they scare me, scares dogs and it does keep people awake and i have been really upset all day about the homeless man being attacked. i very much hope they find and when they catch the guy they better not just let them out. >> katie: which is probably what they're going to do based on their new veil reform and the lack of police now that they have on the streets of new york.

>> juan: i think that's a vicious crime, i think the judge should exercise some discretion there. let me just say, though, you know, we have to thank john adams who wrote to his wife abigail way back when at the founding of our country that this time of year as we celebrate the fourth of july should be, the whole sky should be filled with eliminations, there should be bonfires, there should be parades. now we've got it by the thing about our moment in history is that due to the coronavirus we are not going to have big gatherings to watch fourth of july fireworks so the supply -- there is no demand from the big manufacturers right now so the supply fireworks is over the top and so they are cheap and people are going to states where it's legal and bringing back the fireworks to places like new york where they may be illegal but they're cheaper now for the kids, kids like me and i guess from what i just heard from greg, kids like

greg, to go out and have some fun with fireworks but it does bother people, scares people, scares her dogs. >> katie: i think every buddy should go out and celebrate the fourth of july and call it a protest and then they'll be fi fine. >> jesse: i am with juan and john adams, these are roman candles, roman candle wars on the street, maybe not the best idea in downtown brooklyn or whatever that was right there but i don't see a lot of harm in it, these are people having fun. i don't know if they're doing this, juan said they are getting ready for july 4th to celebrate our independence from great britain. i think it's warm outside and they're having a little fun and you know the guy that sold fireworks in high school? that was me. >> greg: that was you? >> katie: i thought it was, i had a suspicion it was you. you're the guy who has the goo

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super creator stomach creative but i have a better singer. collette holly has been volunteered singing on nursing homes but had to get creative recently because of distancing. check it out. ♪ so that's of her singing "tutti-frutti." she's done this for free since 2014. she does cocoa songs for seniors and she helps spread joy and we need to take care of our elderly people so take a look at this. >> i believe that's called a cherry picker, right? those large things? the actual device? we have 30 seconds to say. look at this. look at the speed. look at the quickness, look at the power.

i might actually see pay-per-view in our future. you are elbowed out. better luck tomorrow. >> bret: a good evening, i'm bret baier coming to you tonight from the historic willard intercontinental hotel in washington where in just a few minutes i will speak with ambassador john bolton. the obviously former national security advisor and the author of the new book "the room where it happened." this, the publication day after a fight from trump administration to stop the application. i will talk to ambassador bolton about the book, the controversy erupted and the pushback now since it's coming out. but first here's a look at some other headlines today. breaking tonight, it's dumb like the fbi said the object found out fashioned like